mx0 by Yasuhiro Kano

[shouryuujo]

does anyone know why the outside world - parents, friends of the students don't know about magic(or they do but are bound by magic?)? Do the students lose memory or something when they go out so they think they went to a regular school? maybe i missed it somewhere in a chapter...

[Quetz]

I'd assume that telling anyone outside the school of magic would result in being expelled, but idk how they'd stop the people that heard about it from talking..

[Quetz]

Magnetism, easily. Once you reach a certain level you would basically have telekinesis, and be able to use it to move your objects and surroundings around as you see fit.

Wish there was more wind-based magic =(

[crazy_horse1989]

i like to see how the main protagonist gets by situations without blasting through with magic. I also like how this time the mangaka didn't dig himself into a hole like pretty face where it couldn't expand as a long series and thus ended with 6(?) volumes. I love long stories and this manga has opportunities to expand with many diff. storylines without being boring and repetitive. I don't like the choice of the girl though... should be a new face not the same face from pretty face...
i mostly love MxO because of the same reasons as yours... the one thing i don`t agree is the girl... umm, i don`t know who exactly do you mean, is it Aika? i personally haven`t read Pretty Face (not yet), but i like the choice of the girls... a great manga overall... :D

[Koen]

Wish there was more wind-based magic =(

Could happen later on the story/manga :)

[crazy_horse1989]

does anyone know why the outside world - parents, friends of the students don't know about magic(or they do but are bound by magic?)? Do the students lose memory or something when they go out so they think they went to a regular school? maybe i missed it somewhere in a chapter...
yeah, you missed it... when they graduate, they`re granted one wish, according with their magical power... after they graduate, their memory is erased, so they forget everything about that school... :D

oh yeah, sorry... umm, yeah, i think they`re strictly forbidden to say anything about the school... they just don`t say anything to anyone... if they happened to talk, they`ll get expelled, and, on top of that, most of their relatives and friends would think that they`re crazy... so, this way, the school`s got it cover... :D

[Koen]

i mostly love MxO because of the same reasons as yours... the one thing i don`t agree is the girl... umm, i don`t know who exactly do you mean, is it Aika? i personally haven`t read Pretty Face (not yet), but i like the choice of the girls... a great manga overall... :D

Well yeah, as a man, I must say Kanos female character design is so great (I even think for the women/girls the opposite would be the same). Imo its good it doesn't stick with its beginning but evolve

eg: kuzumi/ (fake) golden plate -> kuzumi/M0 plate -> kuzumi/black M0 plate (?)

[crazy_horse1989]

i also like MxO because it`s relatively new and people tend to ignore it... i like it because it`s a good opportunity for being among the ones to promote it around, as to not be ignored anymore... :D

i like it how this area got fired-up in the last 10-15 minutes... :)

[Quetz]

Possibly. I could see it being high-level magic.


Except for the fact that making air denser was one of the ways hiraigi suggested for students to float a rock in the air way back in chapter 3-4ish....

[Quetz]

more liek the last week, lots of posts on a fairly consistent basis ^_______^

[Saintz0r]

Well, the bombs from the school festival were supposed to be loaded with a magic of wind so I assume that wind magic are indeed high-level

[FinalFan]

Hmmm I would like to have magic that has something to do with fire or maybe one that deals with ice.

[encapturer]

The school would need some way to enforce things outside of magic zones in order to keep information about magic under control. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a whole organization dedicated to this. Maybe the Black Plate is related.

[fluke32]

Well it also seems that the magical bodies' existence in the test are directly linked to the endurance of a person's will power can handle. And if Lucy disappeared, it must have been because her will power couldn't handle the prolonged period of maintaining the magical body.

So as long as Kuzumi's will is able to last, he has a chance to pass the test right? Hopefully, Kuzumi passes this test on the next chapter.

But still, He's this close to the goal and we don't expect a trap or two? Heh, I'm pretty sure it shouldn't go that smoothly for Taiga.:p

[Quetz]

I see maybe one more trap before the end. More importantly though, how is he going to even get to the top, trap or no, without M0?

[Sinless]

I see maybe one more trap before the end. More importantly though, how is he going to even get to the top, trap or no, without M0?

As I recall Kuzumi has a "loli" sister that trained him to have physical abilities exceeding a normal person of which countless of times was able to contend with magic. Plus, he was able to create a time paradox although seeing that it may play an ominous role and as well as foreshadowing about what might lie ahead with the secrets of M0. Remember that it was explained that there were so called "Magic Zones" perhaps M0 has an ability to "create" special magic zones since it is able to control the "flow of magic" as explained that the M0 plate was the base plate for all the other magic plates. So considering that M0 may very well not merely "erase" magic but the potential ability to "alter" magic(maybe a few hundred chapters).

(On a side note... the wall looks like Alphonse(armor version) from Full Metal Alchemist meh maybe its just me)

[renrutal]

Perhaps that wall is a statue of the greatest magician of all time, its size representing his/her magic power.

[kidwith69]

I like Hiraagi magic lol Cartoon hands. The Previous Principal magic however is Godlike I like it when he cast "bubble package" to contain the other guy's "spiral cluster bullet" and without card too! He showed everyone when he put on a demonstration of his magic in front of Hiragi sensei.

[Sai_the_Shaman]

note, translation is posted in the RTS and Latest Translation forums

[Sai_the_Shaman]

My favorite Magic thus far is the talking demon beanie. that one just cracks me up and it seems really powerful...despite being kinda evil....

I really like Koishikawa's Don Pacchin and his new move Rasen Kaidan looks really interesting

[Koen]

note, translation is posted in the RTS and Latest Translation forums

I saw it, thanks a lot

I hope a scan comes out quickly

[OhDearMoshe]

I saw it, thanks a lot

I hope a scan comes out quickly

Its there. You may have to look for the link as it may not be edited in yet but scanlation is out!

[Who-me]

I loved this chapter. It was both funny and interesting to me. I do believe Kuzumi will make it to the top. He'll do it by the skin of his teeth, but he'll make it.

As for Lucy, right now, she's probably exhausted from using every bit of magic. I hope it doesn't put her in life threatening danger, since she needs her magic to exist as she does. But seeing what Kuzumi did to his body by falling, I doubt it.

And has anyone besides me noticed the Principal's family has the knack for not telling everything at once? The current one didn't mention Kuzumi having Moe until after he used it. She then gave a minimal explanation of it. And now her father fails to mention bits on the exam itself like it actually being dangerous to the body and it would make him stronger. This is what I found humorous.

[fluke32]

I personally like 3 magic right now.

1) The rubix cube magic. It seems very fun! Even though it might be troublesome to orient the pieces to be right-side-up, but the ability to get anywhere you like (as long as you put stickers on a doorway) is very intriguing to me. Imagine the places you could go to... (Bathroom, Inside the closet, inside a locker in the shower room... Oops, what am I saying!!)

2) Size manipulation magic. Heh, I think it's very interesting... You make a Cup cake bigger and you have an Angel Cake! How cool is that?!

3) Floatation/Flight Magic. The ability to make things float/fly is very intersting to me because it's probably the most useful magic to use in pulling-off pranks!:p

[Quetz]

I personally like 3 magic right now.

1) The rubix cube magic. It seems very fun! Even though it might be troublesome to orient the pieces to be right-side-up, but the ability to get anywhere you like (as long as you put stickers on a doorway) is very intriguing to me. Imagine the places you could go to... (Bathroom, Inside the closet, inside a locker in the shower room... Oops, what am I saying!!)

2) Size manipulation magic. Heh, I think it's very interesting... You make a Cup cake bigger and you have an Angel Cake! How cool is that?!

3) Floatation/Flight Magic. The ability to make things float/fly is very intersting to me because it's probably the most useful magic to use in pulling-off pranks!:p

It took me forever to understand what was going on in that slide >.< (rubik's cube)

[Quetz]

The ex-principal was surprised that kazumi's body was as receptive to his magical form as it was, I doubt he could have forseen someone with such low magical talent having that kind of thing going for him..

As far as not revealing M0 to kazumi, by not telling him it stressed the importance of not strutting around and cancelling all the magic you could, it emphasized that THIS is the secret of the school, and you should use it sparingly.

[Who-me]

The ex-principal was surprised that kazumi's body was as receptive to his magical form as it was, I doubt he could have forseen someone with such low magical talent having that kind of thing going for him..

As far as not revealing M0 to kazumi, by not telling him it stressed the importance of not strutting around and cancelling all the magic you could, it emphasized that THIS is the secret of the school, and you should use it sparingly.

I see your points. The Ex-principal spoke of a normal candidate when he mentioned those warnings, and as we can all see, Kuzumi's beyond normal. And the current principal, she could of trusted him a bit more, seing how well he had been doing so far in school. But again, you make an adequate point Mr. Quetz. My thought of irony didn't take into account the other acts in the manga only solitary facts. Thanks for the nice reply.

[crazy_horse1989]

ok, we all know that Kuzumi is special, he can do lots of crazy sh*t, with or without MO, but i wonder, what the hell would he do? he`s got a fairly big distance to cover until he reaches the horn... it could be easier, as the wall isn`t that steep, but still, what the hell will he do without MO? darn, i wanna see more... :darn
and if he passes this test, what will the next 9 or 10 be like? what will he have to do? why is this black MO such a big secret? if only i could have a time-machine... :)

[Koen]

Hey,

this chapter was awesome I got mixed feelings with last intervention of lucy. I feel happy that kuzumi didn't fell off, so he still can succeed. But on the other hand lucy sacrificed herself and she dissapeared thus kuzumi is now all alone. Given the last failed M0 we can assume his points are close to 0 or are 0. Somehow lucy paid that great amount of used M0 (to make a place to rest) back to kuzumi

next chapter is coming near, I can't wait

[crazy_horse1989]

damn, you`re right... now he`s alone... i hope his morale won`t be affected... :darn

btw, is the manga coming out weekly? :) if so, i won`t get bored... i`ll still have a Berserk chapter and a MxO one... xD

[Sai_the_Shaman]

yep the manga comes out weekly, next chapter will be out this friday/saturday depending on your time zone

I think Kuzumi is the kind of guy to acknowledge Lucy's sacrifice and use that as fuel to finish the climb. We can all pretty much assume Lucy is just back in the real world anyhow.

[crazy_horse1989]

i was thinking about that, too... go, Kuzumi!! let me see what does that black MO plate do!!! :D

also, didn`t say it right in the previous post... a chapter of Berserk will be out this week and it will take a break of 1 month... at least i have MxO, to confort me and protect me of boredom... :D

[Wrath]

The distance that Kuzumi has left is just about the same as the distance he was able to climb on his own without using M0. The fact that he can't take the test again for a year ensures that he'll pass somehow.

[shouryuujo]

The distance that Kuzumi has left is just about the same as the distance he was able to climb on his own without using M0. The fact that he can't take the test again for a year ensures that he'll pass somehow.

The head part might even be easier with eyes/nose/mouth etc. that he could possibly hold on to to get to the top. Guess we'll see the black M0 in action in 2 weeks

[ichobi]

I think this kind of manga (a little shonen and a lot of comedy) wouldn't kill of any character. Even pure Shonen you don't see main characters die easily. Lucy certainly will be brought back. And Kuzumi will make it this time around, it's plot shield.

[Quetz]

It's hard to say. Right around the time Kuzumi found Lucy and started recieving help from her, Hiraigi stopped supporting him......One door opens, another closes......hopefully history won't repeat itself

[Neru]

It's hard to say. Right around the time Kuzumi found Lucy and started recieving help from her, Hiraigi stopped supporting him......One door opens, another closes......hopefully history won't repeat itself
Meaning that when Kuzumi gets Black m0 he won't be able to rely on Lucy anymore? Sounds quite logical. Now, they wouldn't remove Lucy just like that, so perhaps she will just be in critical condition were she unable to help Kuzumi.

[Quetz]

If I had to guess, I'd say she'd just revert back to the way she was when he first found her, ie immobile, permanently visible, etc

[shouryuujo]

i think she just needs to be watered in the real world. No way she would be gone, we have yet to see her as big as kuzumi yet..

[Koen]

If I had to guess, I'd say she'd just revert back to the way she was when he first found her, ie immobile, permanently visible, etc

Well imo it's certainly not over for lucy, I think she just returned to that monastery with the ghost - though maybe she's a bigger girl now same height of kuzumi - naaahhh that's just hope

[crazy_horse1989]

The head part might even be easier with eyes/nose/mouth etc. that he could possibly hold on to to get to the top. Guess we'll see the black M0 in action in 2 weeks
well, it may seem easier, but what if the principal`s ancestor prepared even more traps there? remember that the wall is supposed to break the spirit of the one climbing it... :)

shouryuujo, i think that your side seems the most probable... when Lucy is exhausted, she just needs to be watered... :D

[LazyFish]

Could there be a section of the statue that is not magical? In other words perhaps M0 is not working because Kuzumi is in a section with real stones.

Why have sections of real stones? So that an MO user would not make a very thin 'blade' that would slice at an angle the statue. The statue would slide down and become two pieces. Repeated use of these types of blades would make the top of the statue small enough to climb. (Assuming that there is room for the statue to slide down to two or more pieces.)

[Quetz]

Could there be a section of the statue that is not magical? In other words perhaps M0 is not working because Kuzumi is in a section with real stones.


That seems likely, because otherwise after this test he would be back to square one, in that he'd be out of mp.

It's possible that when he was hit into the hammer, his real body never moved while his magical self was shoved down through the ground, and that this entire test is taking place 'below' kuzumi's physical body......which would mean that the purpose of this test is for your magical body to be able to reach your physical self.

[LondonGreen]

Anyone remembered what the ex-principle said about reaching the teeth?
Could that be a "Trap" or "Trial" that needs to be passed?

Personally, I think Kusumi would fail to reach the horn, but somehow pass the test due to it. Something like the time when he went off to save Lucy during the class match, but end up winning the area because his opponents are stuck to the traps at the end.

[renrutal]

His actions in the female swimming pool and how the girls reacted to him afterwards (they trust him) just won my day.
I like it because Taiga isn't a cliché male character of a comedy-ecchi-shonen manga. They usually are losers, pervs or plain dumb, usually all the girls hate them.

Also he's very kind towards all the girls, but not because he wants to get in their pants, but because he's a good guy who says good stuff, specially in the moments Lucy says "You stink".

[encapturer]

Mx0 caught me with its magic; I like any type of fiction with a relatively important supernatural element. I was hooked once I actually got a few chapters in. How the hell would Kuzumi survive here? M0?! Lucy?!? Black Plate!!?! The comedy parts are amusing, but most of my entertainment comes from watching Kuzumi overcome his trials.... and not be a complete idiot in doing so.

(....of course the technical aspect of magic in the manga has also caught my attention.... I tend to want every detail of it.)

[Keshire]

I like Hiraagi magic lol Cartoon hands. The Previous Principal magic however is Godlike I like it when he cast "bubble package" to contain the other guy's "spiral cluster bullet" and without card too! He showed everyone when he put on a demonstration of his magic in front of Hiragi sensei.

It's been suggested that the principle had a card in his back pocket. But there's evidence that you don't physically need the card on you for the magic to be active, (ie Dropping the M0 card to the floor when trying to figure the radius of the card)

That said. Rubik cube magic is by far the most original.

[Koen]

Principal .


principle

Okay sorry to go off topic but often see lots of americans writing principal or principle. Since sai corrected my topic from principle to principal, are both right or not?

Maybe mx0 should have a teacher with grammar correction magic (k, this was just to mark this on topic ;))

[Koen]

and you know the funny thing:

mx0 has been scanlated very late. Based on the raws I couldn't stand it till I read scans/trans/french volumes. Then I said heck this manga is funny, awesome, good, etc

Mx0 is the manga with a beautifull art but the text gives more feeling towards the drawnings

[Neru]

Heh, I know what you mean Koenosaki. Since this chapter 92 was kinda delayed on the translation. The chapter was good overall, but it didn't feel complete until the scanslation was out. Oh, how I wish I could read japanese >.

[Neru]

Okay sorry to go off topic but often see lots of americans writing principal or principle. Since sai corrected my topic from principle to principal, are both right or not?

Maybe mx0 should have a teacher with grammar correction magic (k, this was just to mark this on topic ;))

Principle and principal are two difference words, I think. Like, "Its my principle to do everything right." - "Thats our principal." get it ;)

[Keshire]

Okay sorry to go off topic but often see lots of americans writing principal or principle. Since sai corrected my topic from principle to principal, are both right or not?

Maybe mx0 should have a teacher with grammar correction magic (k, this was just to mark this on topic ;))

I am wrong. :P
I typically just check my spelling but not my grammar. So there's many many improper usages. ;)

[Keshire]

if he plays his cards right (no pun intended), he could even get them to hook him up with a spell of his choice rather than just a random one that they happen to cast near him.

"Hey let's experiment with (such and such) magic" ...*M0* ... "Oh looks like that one was a dud..."


The Black Plate stores a smaller amount of magic than the original spell had... but Kuzumi can do more with less. I don't just mean applying it better, but 91 talked about how the power of a spell will change depending on how strong your will and ability to turn magic into reality are. Since Kuzumi has been said in the last few chapters to be very good at this, it's reasonable to think that when he gets the Black Plate he'll be able to match others even with smaller amounts of magic.

I hope beyond hope that the author goes this route and not put some nonsense restriction on it's use.

[crazy_horse1989]

all we know for sure now is that Kuzumi was told that his black M0 plate will be upgraded with magic in accordance to how many levels he clears... so i guess there will be more chapters to come and show us what does he have to surpass later on... ---> meaning that the wall could be just the beginning of the grading of his M0...


as in the picture... ;)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/306/mx08904ud1.png (http://imageshack.us)

when Kuzumi asked what`s the use in grading the students, since they forget all after graduation, and why does he need to get his M0 tested, the spirit didn`t say anything... he just stared at him for a while and then told him to go home... what`s that fuc*ing big secret of the school? what about the testing, what about the M0, dammit? i wanna find out more... :darn

this picture proves to me that Mx0 has got HUGE potential and i wanna see WTF is going on with the school... :)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4374/mx08905it7.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Quetz]

The exact point where this manga won me over....second line of panels

http://img7.onemanga.com/mangas/00000043/00000004/10.jpg

[Maitimo]

I really like Mx0, because it's a combination of laughter and wits. I really like it when the character has to outthink the others and Taiga doing that is quite hilarious.
It doesn't have the intellectual level of Death Note, but it is way funnier. Also, there are some pretty girls.

[Quetz]

I really like Mx0, because it's a combination of laughter and wits. I really like it when the character has to outthink the others and Taiga doing that is quite hilarious.
It doesn't have the intellectual level of Death Note, but it is way funnier. Also, there are some pretty girls.

I doubt we'll see something as 'smart' as death note any time soon...

[Quetz]

Is it me or does the entire strengthening group seem pretty limited? "Oh snap i can make things bigger" and thats about it....

Out of all the magic we've seen, which one do you guys think has the most potential? I've pretty much already stated that I think the magnet magic hast he potential to be amazing, anyone else have any thoughts?

[Koen]

Out of all the magic we've seen, which one do you guys think has the most potential? I've pretty much already stated that I think the magnet magic hast he potential to be amazing, anyone else have any thoughts?

Well magic is one thing and usage is another thing but I agree with you somehow, certainly during last test Ise Kaoru showed us some great usage of his magnetism.

But as I said Mitchons body control is something amazing too if you ask me

[Quetz]

Well magic is one thing and usage is another thing but I agree with you somehow, certainly during last test Ise Kaoru showed us some great usage of his magnetism.

But as I said Mitchons body control is something amazing too if you ask me

I see one hair doll as being incredibly limited, since you have to actually get the hair for the spell to actually be useful...If she ever got around that particular flaw, I might agree that she would have potential to be amazing.

hmm...this topic's got me thinking, if kuzumi could hypothetically use magic normally, what type of magic would he use? I'd hazard to guess he'd probably end up using something like the pinpoint sagittarius, or possibly even the cartoon hand....physical attacks, or something similar to them.

[runyan]

I can't say I have a favorite, but I recently reread the first few chapters and I still crack up over Taiga's head being synthesized with a bolt.

My favorite spell-name so far has got to be "Infinite Tolerance", it just sounds like something a teacher/principal would need. (the bubble package spell used by the ex-principal)

[Keshire]

if kuzumi could hypothetically use magic normally, what type of magic would he use?

This could be it's own topic. :)

But I'd say "paper spring" (Fanta-Sista, Tornado, Big Thunder Vertical Descent, and Satan Descends!) . He really really looked like he enjoyed playing with that.

[azure21]

For me it would be the older Ise's magic, not sure what to call it. The "control" magic he used on the books the 2nd time he met Kuzumi. Or the "Clear Clean(?)" of Hiiragi's good too... things I would do if I were invisible XD

[fluke32]

Is it me or does the entire strengthening group seem pretty limited? "Oh snap i can make things bigger" and thats about it....

Out of all the magic we've seen, which one do you guys think has the most potential? I've pretty much already stated that I think the magnet magic hast he potential to be amazing, anyone else have any thoughts?What do you mean? Strengthening group isn't only size manipulation, Tsugawa's Idantengou Max, Daddy Hiiragi's Cartoon Hands and Koishikawa's Don Pachin and Nagai's "The Rocky Horror Show" are all from strengthening group. Their magic are all based upon exponentially increasing an object's efficiency whether it's for endurance, size, mass, strength and power, or speed.

Anyway, I still love the Rubix magic! If only the magic wasn't limited to the School... Imagine sticking the sticker to a letter then sending it to the Jamaica through airmail and then when a receiver opens the mail, you now have instant access to the beach! How fun would that be!

[Koen]

Well If a black plate can be used outside of school while other plates can't. Let's analyse:
Other plates can't be used outside since they are linked to a hot spot which is the source of the magic.
Black M0 plate can be used outside the school, so they don't seemed to be linked to the hot spot. But Black M0 plate is the M0 plate which can cancel other magic but it can also absorbs other magic while the other known plates are magical skilled plates totally different to the M0 plate.

I think that black M0 plate can be used outside in the meaning: usage of its restored magic. Black M0 plate has no significance
1. outside school - situation: you aren't on a hot spot - in cancelling others magic (supposing you're not on hot spot outside school, nobody can use magic)
2. when no magic is restored on the black M0 plate (M0 skill isn't usefull too on none hot spots outside of school)

I think, we don't have to look it too far: I think Black M0 can be used outside of school because it absorbed the magical skill. It doesn't need the hot spot because the black M0 plate is prolly a hot spot for its own absorbed magic and only that, while other plateds prolly need a hot spot for their ORIGINAL power

[Neru]

Raw is out duds. =) http://www.megaupload.com/se/?d=HB3QS0Y5 > At first, I thought my prediction about Lucy came true, however, she safe and sound. However, what more important is, Kuzumi reached the peak with his will and gut :O http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4827/m017hh5.jpg Next chap certainly gonna rocks! Black Card!

[chison]

shout:[all thanks to LUCY]

THE NEW BM0 got some interesting design

[crazy_horse1989]

Raw is out duds. =) http://www.megaupload.com/se/?d=HB3QS0Y5 > At first, I thought my prediction about Lucy came true, however, she safe and sound. However, what more important is, Kuzumi reached the peak with his will and gut :O http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4827/m017hh5.jpg Next chap certainly gonna rocks! Black Card!
thanks, dude!!!! i`ve been waiting for this!!!! :D

[xi0]

RAW is out! Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=791272#post791272)

[crazy_horse1989]

yay!!!! RAW out!!! Kuzumi`s got his black plate!!! finally, let`s see what`s next... i can`t understand anything from the RAW, since i don`t know any Japanese... hope that they`ll scanlate the chapter soon!! :D

[Quetz]

Looks like lucy survived and kuzumi made it to the top the same way he tried to do the first time he took the test....Can't wait for this trans + next chapter, to see what he does with his new plate....think he'll get to disguise his plate as a black gold plate now? ^^

[Neru]

This chapter seriously gave me shiver. Thought Kuzumi was gonna fail for a moment there, but what else can be expected from him? That Black Card looks truly nice. There seem to be some good conversation too, can't wait for translation =)

[Quetz]

I'm going to go ahead and predict that the design on the M0 will change with every level of the black plate he aquires....god i love stuff like that ><

[Temporal]

I think it will be disguised as the usual gold plate. It would only raise unnecessary questions doing otherwise. It seems that level 1 black plate has the ability to absorb 10% magic, judging by the last page, and the possibility of level 10 having 100% magic absorption.

As for what I think will happen next, possibly a tournament of some sort. We had the balloon competition after the last time the plates were upgraded. Basically something that will give Kuzumi the chance to test out his new plate.

[Quetz]

I think it will be disguised as the usual gold plate. It would only raise unnecessary questions doing otherwise. It seems that level 1 black plate has the ability to absorb 10% magic, judging by the last page, and the possibility of level 10 having 100% magic absorption.

As for what I think will happen next, possibly a tournament of some sort. We had the balloon competition after the last time the plates were upgraded. Basically something that will give Kuzumi the chance to test out his new plate.

That tournament was there specifically so that the entire first year class could test out their plates, I can't imagine why there would be another one when nobody knows about the upgrade, and it's only one person who got it.

Also, on the 10% thing? are you sure that's what it says? I'm not arguing about it, I honestly have no idea, just curious..

[Temporal]

That's right, the tournament was to test out the new plates, going from Red Iron to White Iron, Chrome, Iron. But we also had an upgrade just recently, going up to Bronze.

As for the 10%, I'm guessing that by some of the words in the bubbles of the last page.

[shouryuujo]

I think the last panel says " special magical alloy combined to 10%, it can now memorize magic." So every Level = 10% and maybe a new look for the card? The principle also impressed by kuzumi treating magical beings with care. He asked kuzumi if he was willing to trade the results of the test for lucy to come back and was impressed by his answer.

[Neru]

Interesting. So the ex principal offered the exchange for Lucy life back if he gave up on the black card or what? But he got both anyway because of his unselfisness. Also, does the card store 10% magic? Or is it just the card that is synthesized to 10%. Hmm...

[shouryuujo]

Interesting. So the ex principal offered the exchange for Lucy life back if he gave up on the black card or what? But he got both anyway because of his unselfisness. Also, does the card store 10% magic? Or is it just the card that is synthesized to 10%. Hmm...

The exprinciple wanted to see if kuzumi cared about magical beings so he told him lucy is "dead" and the only way is to have him give up on the results of the test. I am pretty sure it is synthesize 10% not can store 10% magic. Or perhaps it is both the percentage relates to the percentage of the magic copied.

[fluke32]

I think it's more safe to say it only was synthesized... Seeing that the possibility of there being ten more tests, these could mean there are more functions to a black plate. Hopefully, there's a way for Kuzumi to:
1.) Keep the magic stored in the Card forever without the fear of being only able to use 1 magic once.
2.) Copy more than 1 magic in the Card.
3.) use multiple magic simultaneously.
4.)have the ability to use magic outside of magical zones.
With that said, there's still more room for improvement for Kuzumi's Black Mo card.:amuse

Based on the fact that we already had a Cultural Festival, and a Summer break before that, I guessing that it's gonna be winter, so the next series of event will probably be winter related.

[runyan]

Thanks for posting the raw xi0. It looks like another good chapter; can't wait until a translation comes out so we can learn all of the details revealed in the conversations.

[Koen]

This chapter seriously gave me shiver. Thought Kuzumi was gonna fail for a moment there, but what else can be expected from him? That Black Card looks truly nice. There seem to be some good conversation too, can't wait for translation =)

I had the same feeling. I thought it for a moment too. Especially when he was at the statute/walls end. It's great to see lucy back, and it's very great to see Kuzumi gots it black M0 plate

[Neru]

Hmm, yeah. I like this fast pace we're going at. Just in one chapter we had all this
・Kuzumi clearing the test. ( Boy that was epic? )
・After chat with exprincipal. ( Seem like Kuzumi won him over :P )
・Back at school with a revived Lucy. ( Whats with that weed on her head? :P )
・Introduction of Black Card. ( Finally, think we all waited for that scene, no. )
Mean that next chapter we can finally, or probably see BM0 in action. Well, that is if Kuzumi can scatter together some points... he's completly depleted them right :O

[Saintz0r]

hehe, so lucy's okay :]
I really liked the design of BM0, but I really can't make a prediction, anything could happen right now ~~

[Sai_the_Shaman]

I'm looking forward to the next chapter, if only 10% integration with the black magic metal gives the magic memory ability, I wonder what 20-100% integration does.

Lucy probably looked like that (being attached to her actual plant form) because she wasn't full recovered yet, hence her powers were probably only at regular mandrake level rather than super magic ring infused mandrake lol

I really wonder what the next story arc is going to be about....

[Quetz]

After reading the trans, and more importantly the name of the next chapter, I can't wait for the next couple chapters....Looks like lucy is going to be back in full force soon, avoiding the zero sum situation I had predicted :P

Based on the fact that he's actually gained a tool without the loss of another tool, I'm fairly sure we'll start seeing kuzumi get into some more complicated situations.....realllllly can't wait ^^

[Koen]

I agree, the next time in translations sounds great

we might know more about black M0 and the true secrets of the card. Can't wait for the black M0 plate to be used by kuzumi

[Koen]

Suppose you're in Taiga Kuzumis place. You're in seinagi for an entrance interview. But just like Taiga you can't/don't know the answer. The teacher asks you if you could use magic, what would you want to try?

What would have been your answer in place of taiga kuzumi

[Saintz0r]

Becoming invisible to peep? hahahaha

[Koen]

hmm I am relly thinking bit it's very difficult

lemme say: for one day I would be the only one living in this world :)

[futureking]

Yay. Lucy's alive. I'm so happy.

[Quetz]

Use it to assist in being lazy.

[Locksmith]

So now Kuzumi is going to be advancing on two levels. Through the use of M0 he is going to gain experience and become more deft in its use. He is also going to be able to take the former principal's tests and presumably be able to absorb and use more magic.

Hopefully, by having two different ways to advance Kuzumi's education and the story the manga won't become too repetitive.

[Neru]

Yeah. This really feels like the turning point in the story. Kuzumi will finally be able to execute magic, even though its not his own and it will be limited. Either way, Kuzumi will probably "for real" become the most feared First year. Since now he has both defensive M0 to repel and offensive BM0 to counter with. There seem to be many possibilities of what could happend from now on.

[Saintz0r]

Yeah, it definitely opens many paths. I hope we can see Kuzumi in action soon.
Maybe it's time for the third year magic council start making appearances, since 2/3 of the year is gone o.o

[crazy_horse1989]

i would use magic to get rid of all the stupid jerks in the world... that would be my answer... :ninja

[Quetz]

Cannot wait until the next few chapters are outtttttttttttttttttttt

So many possibilities, so many ways for the author to surprise us, and so many things that can potentially be revealed.......hate the waiting :(

[Neru]

I would use magic to travel time and grab future manga chapters :]

[Quetz]

I would use magic to travel time and grab future manga chapters :]

Probably the best response this topic will see.

[LazyFish]

I would say that I would use it to cure my reading disability. :)
Maybe then they would let me in anyway.

[Neru]

Probably the best response this topic will see.

At first I thought of magic that would make the mangaka work much faster, but thats just cruel. Right :P

[Koen]

Or why not

using the magic to make mx0 for real and us being part of it :D

we can start to fight who'll be who :)

[RyuSensei]

then I'll use magic to decide I'm Taiga, owner of the BM0 plate.

[Koen]

Cannot wait until the next few chapters are outtttttttttttttttttttt

So many possibilities, so many ways for the author to surprise us, and so many things that can potentially be revealed.......hate the waiting :(

I agree black M0 will change the manga a lot

Yasuhiro Kano really did/is doing a great job. Damned can't wait to see black M0 working and kuzumi becoming even cooler

[Quetz]

guy with invisible hand >>>steals your plate >>>>kicks your ass

[azure21]

Maybe it's time for the third year magic council start making appearances, since 2/3 of the year is gone o.o

It's about time they make their presence felt. Since Kuzumi is in good terms with the 2nd year's council members, come his 2nd year, there probably no body left to "bully" Kuzumi.

[Quetz]

I thought he was already in his second year? Like they had a summer vacation and everything lol

[Koen]

I thought he was already in his second year? Like they had a summer vacation and everything lol

Well yeah I was thinking the same but I thought I recently read it he's still a first year

but don't forget in japan school starts in april, so maybe the summer vacation is during the 1st year - school system (http://www.tokyo-icc.jp/guide_eng/educ/01.html)

read the second line

though I could be wrong

[Saintz0r]

Didn't someone say there was 3 exams a year?
Well, if it's not the case look at the ties. First years just have 1line in the tie. Second years have two and third years three :P

[Sinless]

Well I am content that Kuzumi passed the test and Lucy lives... but it lacks impact. Moar action now since Kuzumi can finally use magic!!!

[WaterDrop]

They have the semester education system in Japan.. So the Summer vacation is just a barrier between the first semester and the second one. 2 Semesters = 1 year.

[Koen]

They have the semester education system in Japan.. So the Summer vacation is just a barrier between the first semester and the second one. 2 Semesters = 1 year.

So he's still a first year no?

[WaterDrop]

yep

[Koen]

When I read the scan I was more touched by then watching the raw - for two big main reasons:
1. kuzumi wanted to sacrifice the clearing of the level for bringing lucy back. Many people wouldn't give up their hard work that easily. Kuzumi didn't even think about it, he answered immediately. The principal mentioned of kuzumi caring a lot about magic
2. the principals appearance. He seems arrogant but actually he isn't. He lied to kuzumi because he didn't want kuzmi (and others) to see his soft and caring side. The fact kuzumi had physical problems during the test and cried out to the principal to have patience and let him clear out with these "small" injuries was another proof that kuzumi wouldn't want lucys intervention to be zero. I really think kuzumi left a very positive impression to the principal

[Neru]

So he's still a first year no?

Yeah. Have you read anything in the manga that indicates that he is not? I think its around fall soon, then winter will come and on spring Kuzumi will be second year. The third years still haven't shown what they are really made of after all, so it would be a shame if they graduated without doing that. :P

[Who-me]

When I read the scan I was more touched by then watching the raw - for two big main reasons:
1. kuzumi wanted to sacrifice the clearing of the level for bringing lucy back. Many people wouldn't give up their hard work that easily. Kuzumi didn't even think about it, he answered immediately. The principal mentioned of kuzumi caring a lot about magic
2. the principals appearance. He seems arrogant but actually he isn't. He lied to kuzumi because he didn't want kuzmi (and others) to see his soft and caring side. The fact kuzumi had physical problems during the test and cried out to the principal to have patience and let him clear out with these "small" injuries was another proof that kuzumi wouldn't want lucys intervention to be zero. I really think kuzumi left a very positive impression to the principal

I completely agree. I never looked at the raw, so when I thought the Principal was truthful when he said Lucy's dead, but you can save her for giving up your victory, Kuzumi's actions really made him a hero. He cared about her even though most mages see her nothing more than potions ingredients. Kuzumi definitely walks his own path. And when the Principal pulled that "You got punked" moment, I laughed. You can't judge anyone in this story on face value.

I am also seeing Kuzumi become a natural born hero and leader, even if he's to stupid to see it himself. He can get into people without meaning to and change them, even if a little. I think it will be these qualities that will best serve him when he faces the Vice-Principal. But that probably won't happen until sometime in his sophomore year. Thinking on that, that would be scary, seeing as his current bosses would be his enemies. But then Kuzumi would probably recruit others to his side. His class group and probably a few others.

This was one of the best chpters yet. I can't wait for the next one.

[Sinless]

When I read the scan I was more touched by then watching the raw - for two big main reasons:
1. kuzumi wanted to sacrifice the clearing of the level for bringing lucy back. Many people wouldn't give up their hard work that easily. Kuzumi didn't even think about it, he answered immediately. The principal mentioned of kuzumi caring a lot about magic
2. the principals appearance. He seems arrogant but actually he isn't. He lied to kuzumi because he didn't want kuzmi (and others) to see his soft and caring side. The fact kuzumi had physical problems during the test and cried out to the principal to have patience and let him clear out with these "small" injuries was another proof that kuzumi wouldn't want lucys intervention to be zero. I really think kuzumi left a very positive impression to the principal

1. Who wouldn't want a flying hawtness with you all the time? (If they killed off lucy lots of readers will be really disappointed)

2. It is not a physical problem per se but Kuzumi's magic and physical body are much moar aligned. (I wanted Ex-principal to go on use Kuzumi's body a second time and used moar grandiose magic but... well Kuzumi better satisfy us with BM0)

yesss BM0!!!!!!

[Franckie]

I'd just stick with the original line: "Conquer the world."

[Quetz]

Having thought about this, I can honestly say that I would use magic to create a death note.

[Keshire]

I'd just stick with the original line: "Conquer the world."

Same Here.

[fluke32]

Well, I'm tempted to say "I'll use magic to bring peace & hapiness into the world" but that would be so Care Bear like, and would be hypocracy considering how much of a pervert I am as well.:sweat

If I could use magic, the first thing I would do is rig the US Elections so I'll win it when I run for president. Then I'll certainly be able to "Conquer the World" even without Magic.:p

[Koen]

Well, I'm tempted to say "I'll use magic to bring peace & hapiness into the world" but that would be so Care Bear like, and would be hypocracy considering how much of a pervert I am as well.:sweat

I have never liked to bring peace and hapiness stuff maybe I would change sex order: int this world like 90% women and 10% men -> oh and of course hot women - You could choose unless they all become lesbian :D

[kidwith69]

hmm... its true that kuzumi now receives more power to make it through but he stills hav to bluff the whole way. since his magic abilities havent made any significant changes. It will be harder for kuzumi to get a gold plate now. My Prediction that he probably get a far more superior plate when the black and MO plate reach its limit.

[Quetz]

hmm... its true that kuzumi now receives more power to make it through but he stills hav to bluff the whole way. since his magic abilities havent made any significant changes. It will be harder for kuzumi to get a gold plate now. My Prediction that he probably get a far more superior plate when the black and MO plate reach its limit.

I disagree. The fact that he no longer has to deplete his points to use M0 at every single junction, and can now rely on magic points to do some of the work just like the rest of the students means that he can accumulate (and keep) his points just that much faster, meaning he'll get to the gold faster.

Only thing I'd be concerned over is the fact that he used all his points up during the black plate test...

[Quetz]

I have never liked to bring peace and hapiness stuff maybe I would change sex order: int this world like 90% women and 10% men -> oh and of course hot women - You could choose unless they all become lesbian :D

Gonna have to refer you to Saintz0rz sig image.

[Koen]

Only thing I'd be concerned over is the fact that he used all his points up during the black plate test...

Kuzumi has chosen for it but maybe absorbing magic will have its effects on points too or maybe this will be something for another level of BM0

[Koen]

Gonna have to refer you to Saintz0rz sig image.

??? /me can't follow

edit: you mean I am a pervert? Come on you can't neglect that ise kaoru's situation of the first test was so AWESOME

[Neru]

I disagree. The fact that he no longer has to deplete his points to use M0 at every single junction, and can now rely on magic points to do some of the work just like the rest of the students means that he can accumulate (and keep) his points just that much faster, meaning he'll get to the gold faster.

Only thing I'd be concerned over is the fact that he used all his points up during the black plate test...

Yah. Because of that he will need to do some heavy work in the executive committe. Either way, I doubt Kuzumi had that much points to begin with, seeing he never used magic during testes and such.

[Quetz]

I was only kidding :P

[Koen]

I was only kidding :P

I know but you can't neglect that ;) :D

[fluke32]

Yah. Because of that he will need to do some heavy work in the executive committe. Either way, I doubt Kuzumi had that much points to begin with, seeing he never used magic during testes and such.I beg to differ... Contrary to your belief that Kuzumi didn't have a lot of points to begin with, thanks to Kuzumi's steadfast and careful thriftiness in the usage of M0, Kuzumi had a lot of points stored and he had the luxury to use M0 in the test because he had a lot of it. The only other time Kuzumi had that much luxury to use M0 was during his training camp with Niigaki-sensei where Niigaki-sensei kept giving Kuzumi some points during the training.

Well, in any case, since Kuzumi has no more points left, He now has to get the points he desperately has to get in order to make his plate useful.^_^ Another noteworthy thing to keep an eye on is that Kuzumi will be using his plate a lot since he can store different types of Magic into his plate and he will need to learn about those as well. His work at the Magic Executive Committee might become valuable as well since He can make use of his activities in the MEC as a means to get new forms of Magic to store in his Plate.:D

[fluke32]

Yeah. Have you read anything in the manga that indicates that he is not? I think its around fall soon, then winter will come and on spring Kuzumi will be second year. The third years still haven't shown what they are really made of after all, so it would be a shame if they graduated without doing that. :P

Don't cultural festivals in Japanese Schools usually happen during the fall season? I could clearly remember this because most of the other mangas also show School Cultural Festivals happening during Fall. This makes me suspect that Mx0 is already probably is around september in it's calendar.

But that would be inadequate seeing as it's the start of spring in Japan right now...:sweat The most probable thing is that Kuzumi will have to sort about 2 messes out again that would last untill the fall of 2008 in real life, or we're gonna go through pre-winter events that will happen in Seinaigi.:amuse

[Neru]

I beg to differ... Contrary to your belief that Kuzumi didn't have a lot of points to begin with, thanks to Kuzumi's steadfast and careful thriftiness in the usage of M0, Kuzumi had a lot of points stored and he had the luxury to use M0 in the test because he had a lot of it. The only other time Kuzumi had that much luxury to use M0 was during his training camp with Niigaki-sensei where Niigaki-sensei kept giving Kuzumi some points during the training.



That didn't seem to be the case for me. http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/88/04/
Here Kuzumi says "If you hadn't forced me to join, even if I'd passed the exam, my points would probably not be enough."
That sentence doesn't seem to make out that Kuzumi had a lot of points, rather, he had just enough to manage. Even though you earn points from the executive committee, I doubt its on the same scale as earning points from magical test. Why? Because it would be unfair to other if one where able to earn 'lots' of points from just begin a member of Executive committee. And at point, Kuzumi was totally unable to earn points on magical test since he had zero magic. So to say, he just managed on what he got from the executive, but no more than that.
Also, "he had the luxury to use M0 in the test because he had a lot of it." It was not about begin luxary or not. Kuzumi knew he didn't have much points, however, he was willingely to sacrifice what he had to clear the test and get BM0. May I refer you to http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/92/08/ and
http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/92/09/.
He was pretty concerned wheter his points would be enough or not to reach the top. Well, thats my beliefs for this matter anyways.

[Saintz0r]

Gonna have to refer you to Saintz0rz sig image
hahahaha. I should probably change it to a happy Kumi saying that she loves pervs. At least I would feel good XD


I know but you can't neglect that ;):D
Nobody can:p:p

[Neru]

Aren't we off topic now guys? :)
hahahaha. I should probably change it to a happy Kumi saying that she loves pervs. At least I would feel good XD
Ah, just for the sake of going OT, too.
Don't do that! I think your signature is nasty enough as it is, lol. Doing any further would make innocent Kumi not so innocent anymore. >.> ( Yeah, right as she ever was innocent. ) Anyway, where was this topic going before a certain someone wanted us to pick character we want to be and then change the sex of them and make them all lesbians or wtf. I'm not sure anymore. ;)

[Neru]

Don't cultural festivals in Japanese Schools usually happen during the fall season? I could clearly remember this because most of the other mangas also show School Cultural Festivals happening during Fall. This makes me suspect that Mx0 is already probably is around september in it's calendar.

But that would be inadequate seeing as it's the start of spring in Japan right now...:sweat The most probable thing is that Kuzumi will have to sort about 2 messes out again that would last untill the fall of 2008 in real life, or we're gonna go through pre-winter events that will happen in Seinaigi.:amuse

Yeah, I figured as much. They're no longer wearing their summer outfits. I didn't like the design of the summer outfit anyway, so good its rid of. :P Hope the fall and the winter will last at least as long as the summer did. ( It begun at chapter 27 O.o ). Since we're heading to a colder season, perhaps the story will get darker herefrom. Who knows...

[Koen]

Well I agree with neru and fluke32, why?
One thing is for sure, kuzumi said himself he'll do everything for akais wish coming true. Indeed kuzumi is carefull with using points and on the other hand he's glad when he succeeds a test and gathers point.
Sometimes he's forced to use the points, other times he succeeds without using the points.

BUT black M0 is imo a signal the mangaka will make the trials for kuzmi harder

[Koen]

so to go back on topic guys:
If I would ask on an interview would you use magic (even if it's sneaky) for pervy things? what would the answer be? :D :D :D

OT: great to see all mx0 banners :)

[Koen]

Yeah. Have you read anything in the manga that indicates that he is not? I think its around fall soon, then winter will come and on spring Kuzumi will be second year. The third years still haven't shown what they are really made of after all, so it would be a shame if they graduated without doing that. :P

I agree, I certainly wanna see the third years in action before they graduate. Kano gave us something mysterious: the 3rd years executive commitee (the unknown president, the unkown cube magic girl - vice-president?). But that means a plot with the VICE-principal must be brought to us

[Who-me]

And at point, Kuzumi was totally unable to earn points on magical test since he had zero magic. So to say, he just managed on what he got from the executive, but no more than that.

Mr. Neru, I must correct you on this point. Kuzumi failed to gain many points from the exam, not because of his lack of magic, but lack of magic used on the past exam. As the principal said on the first page you cited, Kuzumi's low score came from not using magic, not from not having it. Had he used Mo, he would of used magic, erasing magic, but magic none the less. Other than this fault, nice argument.

[Quetz]

Indeed. Now all we gotta do is disperse to different manga portions of this site and post in them, thereby leeching off of their community ^_^

[Neru]

Lol, hell yeah. Our propaganda quest to to make Mx0 conquer the world know is far from over. Thing is that I have little to discuss on other mangas boards. Ah well, I will get to it.

[Neru]

I agree, I certainly wanna see the third years in action before they graduate. Kano gave us something mysterious: the 3rd years executive commitee (the unknown president, the unkown cube magic girl - vice-president?). But that means a plot with the VICE-principal must be brought to us

What bothers me is the Vice-principals real intentions. Why can't there be special cases? They way the vice prinicpal wanted to investigate Kuzumi certainly didn't seem to be within concern of the school. Guess he is the closes thing we have for a villian so there must be something...

[Koen]

What bothers me is the Vice-principals real intentions. Why can't there be special cases? They way the vice prinicpal wanted to investigate Kuzumi certainly didn't seem to be within concern of the school. Guess he is the closes thing we have for a villian so there must be something...

He'll have his reasons but suppose the vice-principal succeeds in proving that kuzumi doesn't have any magic at all and he was allowed to make entrance in the school thanks to the principal then he'll prolly oppose to the principal and claim she isn't worth to be the principal.

[WaterDrop]

I doubt there will be any trouble whatsoever from the vice-principal.
Think about it.. Only 3rd years, brilliant 3rd years, are able to take the black plate's test..
The fact Taiga passed the first test shows his potential and that he's above the usual student. So the vice can't really complain seeing Taiga is such a prodigy.

[Neru]

I doubt there will be any trouble whatsoever from the vice-principal.
Think about it.. Only 3rd years, brilliant 3rd years, are able to take the black plate's test..
The fact Taiga passed the first test shows his potential and that he's above the usual student. So the vice can't really complain seeing Taiga is such a prodigy.

I don't think the vice principals cares about that. He wanted to investigate Kuzumi because he 'was' a gold card user. Isn't that begin prodigy enough?

[Neru]

Mr. Neru, I must correct you on this point. Kuzumi failed to gain many points from the exam, not because of his lack of magic, but lack of magic used on the past exam. As the principal said on the first page you cited, Kuzumi's low score came from not using magic, not from not having it. Had he used Mo, he would of used magic, erasing magic, but magic none the less. Other than this fault, nice argument.

I suppose you're right. Although M0 isn't really magic. I guess it doesn't matter since anyone else can't tell it isn't.

[Koen]

I doubt there will be any trouble whatsoever from the vice-principal.
Think about it.. Only 3rd years, brilliant 3rd years, are able to take the black plate's test..
The fact Taiga passed the first test shows his potential and that he's above the usual student. So the vice can't really complain seeing Taiga is such a prodigy.

Maybe but the third yeae commitee already got involved with kuzumi and it was part of vice-principals plan. Those 3rd years have nothing to lose because they do what the vice-principal says and they aren't stupid to make a mess for getting suspended. I don't dare to say when, how, why, etc the vice-principal will get involved but be certain if something strange/abnormal happens and kuzumi is part of it then I think that guy will do some (own?) investigation again

[fluke32]

That didn't seem to be the case for me. http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/88/04/
Here Kuzumi says "If you hadn't forced me to join, even if I'd passed the exam, my points would probably not be enough."
That sentence doesn't seem to make out that Kuzumi had a lot of points, rather, he had just enough to manage. Even though you earn points from the executive committee, I doubt its on the same scale as earning points from magical test. Why? Because it would be unfair to other if one where able to earn 'lots' of points from just begin a member of Executive committee. And at point, Kuzumi was totally unable to earn points on magical test since he had zero magic. So to say, he just managed on what he got from the executive, but no more than that.
Also, "he had the luxury to use M0 in the test because he had a lot of it." It was not about begin luxary or not. Kuzumi knew he didn't have much points, however, he was willingely to sacrifice what he had to clear the test and get BM0. May I refer you to http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/92/08/ and
http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/92/09/.
He was pretty concerned wheter his points would be enough or not to reach the top. Well, thats my beliefs for this matter anyways.You're argument about the Magic Executive Committee activities not giving a quantity of points is not true. It was clearly said during his recruitment into the committee that he can earn a lot more points faster by being in the Exec Committee.

His active participation in solving cases with the Committee earns Kuzumi a lot of points based on the facts that:
1. The MEC is very busy with all reported problems to the committee thus Kuzumi has a lot of chances to increase his points by helping in solving it.
http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/12/

2. Based on the fact that Kuzumi hasn't really used M0 to solve most cases, He should have a lot of points still stored in the card upto the point when he used them all up for the Black M0 Plate Exam. The only times he used his points for something related to the MEC were in fixing the Branch Chief and Satoshi's relationship problems and in the Bombing Threat Case during Seinaigi School Cultural Festival.

3.) It was also explained during Kuzumi's recruitment that every MEC related activities reported will conversely earn any committee member a lot of points.
http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/12/07/

It may not be a luxury, but Kuzumi should still have gathered a lot of points accumulated for all these time, seeing as Kuzumi already have One and a half semester's worth of MEC activities already done. That should be a lot.

Also, counting the number of occassions where Kuzumi had to use an amount of Magic Points, until the BM0 plate exam, Kuzumi was forced to use his points for only 6 times. This means that he has almost never used. Excluding the time of Kuzumi's Summer Training with Niigaki Sensei where Niigaki frequently restored Kuzumi's points for the image trainings, Kuzumi should have used the M0 6 out of 92 different occasions. (He can only use up any amount of points by using his only skill, M0.)

Subsequently, this should result to more points earn, and losing some of it 6.5% of the time. Do you still think he'd not have a large amount of points when you see these figures?

[Quetz]

right when he first got it to save kumi, against daimon in the class matches, to save aika in the first magical exams, against ise's older brother, class cultural festival eating contest, class cultural thingy when he tried to disarm the bomb, class cultural thingy in the broom race

thats at least seven times....theres probably at least a couple more

[Saintz0r]

right when he first got it to save kumi, against daimon in the class matches, to save aika in the first magical exams, against ise's older brother, class cultural festival eating contest, class cultural thingy when he tried to disarm the bomb, class cultural thingy in the broom race

thats at least seven times....theres probably at least a couple more
@bold
I don't remember that o.o which chapter/page?

[Quetz]

the VP will likely come into play when its kuzumi's third year there, since that would put him directly under the VP..

Another thing to look forward to is that kuzumi will likely be the head of the MEC in his third year....with just the black plate's capabilities, that could get interesting.

[Neru]

@bold
I don't remember that o.o which chapter/page?

http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/18/01/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/19/01/)


Wheter or not Kuzumi had a lot of points can be discussed to no end if we base it on all these past event it seems. Kuzumi certainly did a lot of work for MEC. However, read the chapter above, you can see how fragile M0 is. I'm not really sure what we should consider 'lot of' points, but he ran out of it. I think the thing is that we lack someone to compare Kuzumi with.

Well, most important now is, Kuzumi is out of points. And I'm not really gonna stick with my earlier quote "I doubt Kuzumi had that much points to begin with". However, I still think Kuzumi had a limmited aount of points before entering the test, which is not "a lot" :P

Edit: should be alright now :P

[kamisama603]

I think the VP is EVIL!!! He wanted a Black Mo plate, but couldn't get one because the ex-principal and current principal didn't see fit at the time. He's the VP, and head of the 3rd year students now because he's waiting for someone with a Mo plate so he can steal it.

But back to topic... I don't think Kuzumi will advance to level 2 anytime soon, because he probably have to accumulate his magic points again.... and that should take a while.

[fluke32]

http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/19/01/


Wheter or not Kuzumi had a lot of points can be discussed to no end if we base it on all these past event it seems. Kuzumi certainly did a lot of work for MEC. However, read the chapter above, you can see how fragile M0 is. I'm not really sure what we should consider 'lot of' points, but he ran out of it. I think the thing is that we lack someone to compare Kuzumi with.

Well, most important now is, Kuzumi is out of points. And I'm not really gonna stick with my earlier quote "I doubt Kuzumi had that much points to begin with". However, I still think Kuzumi had a limmited aount of points before entering the test, which is not "a lot" :P

Youre using the wrong chapter... http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/18/15/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/18/15/) is the chapter where Kuzumi uses M0 to save Kumi.

Anyway, during the exam, Kuzumi never used M0 during Ooki-Sensei's test. He never did it in Momokusa-sensei's test either. The only chapter He used M0 is inhttp://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/26/01/. But even in there we never know how much he used, but based on the fact that he was able to use it during the Class Matches (which was right after the exam) proves that he has a large amount of points.


right when he first got it to save kumi, against daimon in the class matches, to save aika in the first magical exams, against ise's older brother, class cultural festival eating contest, class cultural thingy when he tried to disarm the bomb, class cultural thingy in the broom race

thats at least seven times....theres probably at least a couple more

Queltz, if you're gonna count the littlest details, eight is the most you're gonna end up with even through re-reading the whole manga volumes. Kuzumi's usage of M0 was most prevalent during the Festival. He used it in the eating contest, the race, and disarmament of the bombs. That's probably the only time we saw Kuzumi use it so much.

[fluke32]

I think the VP is EVIL!!! He wanted a Black Mo plate, but couldn't get one because the ex-principal and current principal didn't see fit at the time. He's the VP, and head of the 3rd year students now because he's waiting for someone with a Mo plate so he can steal it.

But back to topic... I don't think Kuzumi will advance to level 2 anytime soon, because he probably have to accumulate his magic points again.... and that should take a while.Where'd you get those info from? Is this some kind of April Fool's Day joke? If it is, it's 7 minutes late for me.:p you posted it at 12:07 am here from my country.:notrust

[Koen]

Where'd you get those info from? Is this some kind of April Fool's Day joke? If it is, it's 7 minutes late for me.:p you posted it at 12:07 am here from my country.:notrust

Respect the mans opinion but talking about the VP being evil - is indeed more for shounen like bleach or naruto. Let's say not evil, but if your vice and the one above you is already old then on a moment you're keen to have that place. The third years are under his direction and I wouldn't be suprised if he knows anything about kuzumi with magic 0 being allowed in this school then he'll do antyhing to oppose the principals principles -> Let's say I don't trust the guy a lot

[Koen]

Queltz, if you're gonna count the littlest details, eight is the most you're gonna end up with even through re-reading the whole manga volumes. Kuzumi's usage of M0 was most prevalent during the Festival. He used it in the eating contest, the race, and disarmament of the bombs. That's probably the only time we saw Kuzumi use it so much.

I somehow agree and the proof: introduction of the BM0
the further the manga progressed the harder trials became for kuzumi to fullfill them without using M0 + Kuzumi is still a 1st year and some of his year's student have gotten a superior plate (eg daimon and a bronze plate, or was it silver? thought is was bronze).

Kano introduced BM0 because kuzumi will need something extra because
1. the trials are getting harder and harder to keep the illusion to the school
2. kuzumi couldn't use magic with the M0 plate
3. kuzumi is part of the EC which makes him more vurnerable to some unwilling trials

Maybe principal knows more of what is awaiting kuzumi. Maybe a years classes match?

[fluke32]

Maybe principal knows more of what is awaiting kuzumi. Maybe a years classes match?
If anything, a principal should at least know what school events that would be coming, and seeing as Seinaigi is a magic school, every single one of these events would involve magic to some degree.

That said, since it's still the fall season in the manga since the schools cultural festival always happen in fall, I'm betting that the next school event would probably a Sports Festival. If I'm correct with this prediction, hopefully we'll see Kuzumi cramming around for points first then become forced to represent the class yet again in events.:sweat

[fluke32]

Respect the mans opinion but talking about the VP being evil - is indeed more for shounen like bleach or naruto. Let's say not evil, but if your vice and the one above you is already old then on a moment you're keen to have that place. The third years are under his direction and I wouldn't be suprised if he knows anything about kuzumi with magic 0 being allowed in this school then he'll do antyhing to oppose the principals principles -> Let's say I don't trust the guy a lot
Speculations should always be based on facts, and what I quoted showed none whatsoever. Kamisama603's post is only wild guessing without any proof to base a theory at all. In order for us to use his theory that "the VP became evil because he couldn't get a Black Plate", we should at least know what kind of plate the VP has. And at the moment, we don't even have a single clue what his plate level is.

All we know is that the VP is highly inquisitive, he handles the 3rd year students, and knows about M0. That's all we know about him, and I'm afraid these facts are not enough to provide anyone a basis for any form of theory or reasonable speculations.

[azure21]

Add to it that he's a "control freak" of sort (67-13 and 69-2).

[caesarpk]

It is very doubtful that The VP is a evil person, but he rather is trying to maintain order...
Being the Vice Principal as well as the fact that he controls the 3rd year suggests that he has quite high plate level; possibly gold or something close to that.
Now, I think the VP is rather being protective about the secrets about M0 and black plate leaking to first years, and probably he will make a fuss at the principal or investigate the matter himself if he was somehow informed of Kuzumi getting the black plate.After all, usually only the 3rd years gets the black plates...and presumably they can be used outside magic zones

[caesarpk]

Hey...but M0 produces an area at which magic does not function...
Doesn't this mean that area outside the magic zone have the same effect as the are M0 creats?? (Ch13/Page3)
Then that should mean M0 have no effect on magic produced by black plate, if this is correct

[caesarpk]

Oh, by the way, the Black plate can only store someone else's magic, right? And use it for once?
Either way, I wonder which magic Kuzumi will choose to put into his BM0

[Saintz0r]

Oh, by the way, the Black plate can only store someone else's magic, right? And use it for once?
Either way, I wonder which magic Kuzumi will choose to put into his BM0

Yes and yes.
Well, since Kuzumi can't predict which magic he will need when the time comes I think he'll borrow something like the cartoon hands from Hiiragi and if that's not enough he'll use his opponents magic. We've already seem how Kuzumi thinks of better ways to use the magic than the others.

[caesarpk]

Wouldn't Aika's invisibility magic help him avoid getting caught up in trouble (though it's doubtful that the author would actually give kuzumi less trouble...

[Saintz0r]

Actually I meant aika's father XD
but yeah, her magic is very good and to someone like Kuzumi it'd open many possibilityes. The only bothersome thing is that the others students wouldn't see ( of course, he's invisible XD ) and the BM0 is a great oportunity to Kuzumi show the principal/daddy hiiragi how good he could be. :]

[Quetz]

Hey...but M0 produces an area at which magic does not function...
Doesn't this mean that area outside the magic zone have the same effect as the are M0 creats?? (Ch13/Page3)
Then that should mean M0 have no effect on magic produced by black plate, if this is correct

Hence the semi popular theory that the black plate allows one to use magic outside of the magical zones.

[fluke32]

Actually I meant aika's father XD
but yeah, her magic is very good and to someone like Kuzumi it'd open many possibilityes. The only bothersome thing is that the others students wouldn't see ( of course, he's invisible XD ) and the BM0 is a great oportunity to Kuzumi show the principal/daddy hiiragi how good he could be. :] I highly doubt that Kuzumi would use Aika's Clean Clear. It lacks practical use for somethings that requires kuzumi to stopping other people from using their magic and it doesn't have any form of offensive applications. IMO, the best magic Kuzumi could get his plate to memoriez would be either Ise's Quick Magnet, or Mizuki's Angel Fly.

[caesarpk]

The quick magnet is quite useful, but Angel fly, where would that come into use... (where i guess then he can make himself or other people float but...
it might be more plausible that he might use daddy hiragi's powerful magic b/c he is considered to have a gold plate? (Although i don't really think the lvl 1 black plate would let him do powerful magics though)

[Neru]

I bet on that Kuzumi will end up getting the most worthless magic and defeat a strong magic user with it. :amuse

[azure21]

right when he first got it to save kumi, against daimon in the class matches, to save aika in the first magical exams, against ise's older brother, class cultural festival eating contest, class cultural thingy when he tried to disarm the bomb, class cultural thingy in the broom race

thats at least seven times....theres probably at least a couple more

Add the test during the training camp vs. Aika&Co.

[fluke32]

Add the test during the training camp vs. Aika&Co.

Pay attention dude, He was replying to my post and I explicitly said besides Kuzumi's summer training. (We are talking about the times M0 was used that consumed Kuzumi's points.) That still totals to eight times Kuzumi used points with M0.

@caesarpk
Hiiragi-sensei's magic are all too powerful, meaning that they will probably consume more points which is why I initially thought that his Magic is not one of the viable options for Kuzumi to copy. Also, Angel Fly and Quick Magnet are the best candidates for Kuzumi's plate to absorb because both can be used to stop an opponent's actions which is perfect for Kuzumi because stopping dangerous things from happening is one of the duties the MEC does.

[Saintz0r]

@caesarpk
Hiiragi-sensei's magic are all too powerful, meaning that they will probably consume more points which is why I initially thought that his Magic is not one of the viable options for Kuzumi to copy. Also, Angel Fly and Quick Magnet are the best candidates for Kuzumi's plate to absorb because both can be used to stop an opponent's actions which is perfect for Kuzumi because stopping dangerous things from happening is one of the duties the MEC does.

I see your point. They're indeed good magic too :P. But I don't see how he could borrow then from Ise/mizuki, if Kuzumi asked mizuki to use her magic in him she would get suspicious and he can't tell the truth. I think Hiiragi-sensei will use the magics that Kuzumi wants to borrow( even if it's not gold plate level )

[fluke32]

I see your point. They're indeed good magic too :P. But I don't see how he could borrow then from Ise/mizuki, if Kuzumi asked mizuki to use her magic in him she would get suspicious and he can't tell the truth. I think Hiiragi-sensei will use the magics that Kuzumi wants to borrow( even if it's not gold plate level )
Well, I certainly don't know the method of making Ise or Mizuku use their magic (so Kuzumi could copy it) either. All I stated was their magic is the best ones to copy that Kuzumi would benifit most.:sweat

Hopefully, a school event would enable this sort of thing to happen naturally for Kuzumi, like a School Sports Festival or something.:p

[Sai_the_Shaman]

I just wanted to make a note to all of you that I've turned chison's old spoiler thread into the official spoiler thread for this forum. I already found a spoiler for M: 94 which I will tl later...(basically when I'm not in class)

[azure21]

Pay attention dude, He was replying to my post and I explicitly said besides Kuzumi's summer training. (We are talking about the times M0 was used that consumed Kuzumi's points.) That still totals to eight times Kuzumi used points with M0.

I said the test part, not the training part. The points used during training were replenished, but the points used during the test were not.

[fluke32]

I said the test part, not the training part. The points used during training were replenished, but the points used during the test were not.
Look, you're not paying attention again... Even if you did pay attention to that post you quoted, in my previous posts, I already did include that already on my previous post. The 6 chapters we saw M0 being used included Niigaki-sensei's test. Just to enumerate for you once again:
1st - Neutralizing Satoshi
2nd - Kumi's rescue
3rd - 3rd test of the 1st Magic Examination
4th - Class Matches Finals
5th - Niigaki-sensei's test
6th - Cultural Festival (Eating Contest)
7th - Cultural Festival (Broom Racing Contest)
8th - Cultural Festival (Bomb Defusal)
And as we all know, I said that Kuzumi didn't use a lot of points for M0 since he only used it in only 6 different occasions before the Black M0 test. (All 3 Cultural Festival Events are treated as one occasion.)

[Quetz]

It's kind of cool to look back on it. Going back and being like 'oh snap he got out of THAT mess ? without M0? wowwwwwwwww".....adds a lot to the experience, I think......Getting through three class matches without using M0 more than once, that's pretty freaking impressive.

[Koen]

Heck I can't even remember all those things -> a reason why I read scans and also buy french volumes:
1. for an exceptional collection I must have - Mx0 is the n°1 manga
2. for reading it a second time to understand or remember forgotten details

[Quetz]

.....frenchhhhhhhh????????????? ewwwwwwww

[Koen]

.....frenchhhhhhhh????????????? ewwwwwwww

yeah it's one of the languages I can speak besides english

I even think it isn't english licensed :p

[Saintz0r]

I wish there was a portuguese version of Mx0 being sold :/
But it's not likely, Naruto started being sold here last year, lol

[Quetz]

I wish there was a portuguese version of Mx0 being sold :/
But it's not likely, Naruto started being sold here last year, lol

ROFL, yea sounds like you're gonna have to wait a while

[kamisama603]

The following is my theory to the secret of the black M0 plate:

First I think the black M0 plate is different than just a regular black plate for another reason. In the manga they said that if Kuzumi had a normal plate than there's no need for a black plate.


I think the black coating was originally designed just for the M0 plate, and it probably can store more magic as it levels up.
It probably has to meet a certain requirement before it can be brought outside of the school and use it.

The thing is I think once the Black M0 plate reaches its maximum it can be used to create hot spots around the world, so magic can be used in other parts of the world.

[encapturer]

As far as we know:

1)The black plating will store magic it comes in contact with. For normal plates, it will always be the magic in said plate. M0 will need to get magic from an outside source, though, thus the 'copy' ability that comes from this unique combination.

2)Exceptional third years get tested to get the black plate. I assume here that the black plating will be added to their own plate.

3)There is some importance involving the black plating and the world outside magic zones.

Of course, it was claimed that the black plating is useless for normal magic users. But, the black plating magic is different from normal magic. I assume that the black plating does not need MP to function, unlike normal plate magic. Since if it did, BM0 would be quite useless as M0 has 0 MP at all times. And of course, the copy ability is there.

...Now, here's where things get funky. Let's ignore black plating and the outside world for the moment. The claim that black plating is generally useless was just the principal keeping Kuzumi in the dark (again). Can it be useful *inside* the school?

--Case 1--
The black plate could get magic from just being around magic. Since magic is inscribed on the plate itself, then that will be what the black plate absorbs. Which equals.... infinite magic. Barring any new restrictions on Black plating, of course. Black magic could still use MP, thus, truly making it useless, but unless M0 has a crapload of MP (and not the exp-style MP M0 normally uses), Kuzumi can't utilize BM0, as said above. And I doubt the plate ranked lower than RI has that. So yeah. If this is the case, Black plating is hax (infinite spells!).

--Case 2/3--
The other option is that MP must be spent in order for the black plating to memorize the spell. The question is, now, is the original spell negated or not.

--Case 2--
If it is, then it is truly useless for normal plates within school grounds. As for Kuzumi, it gives him a 'free M0', if he is attacked with an empty black plate. It can also land him in trouble with the vice principal or something. Or screw over others if they are nearby and he has an empty black plate (i.e. active Angel Fly overhead within BM0's area of effect).

--Case 3--
If it isn't, then the black plate user gets a free spell whenever they cast and they have an empty black plate. Cool stuff (imagine blowing the rest of your MP on a large spell, then using the memorized version to get a second shot). Even if it is weaker, this would open up opportunities for the skilled black plate user.

....Of course, if the black plate user had some control over whether or not magic is absorbed, then that mage could copy magic too. And some interesting situations arise, depending on how it works. Under Case 2, one could store a low MP spell on the black plate, fight, and cast the low MP spell if one needed to block a nasty spell. Under case 3, that's the ability that Kuzumi wants (copy magic).... with a normal plate as well. Case 1 is already hax =/.

BM0 could just work differently than all the other black plated cards, but that'd be too boring for me. Figuring out how this works is half the fun, after all.

[fluke32]

yeah it's one of the languages I can speak besides english

I even think it isn't english licensed :p

Heck, all it takes is a petition from fans and notifying various publishing houses (i.e. VizManga, Dark Horse, TokyoPop, etc.) about it.:sweat I'm pretty sure that's how it happened for ES21 and Fruits Basket to be available in the US.

Anyway, this is getting off-topic so we better stop it.:sweatdrop

[Koen]

The thing is I think once the Black M0 plate reaches its maximum it can be used to create hot spots around the world, so magic can be used in other parts of the world.

Well I thinking something in that way too. I really think BM0 is a hot spot on its own and maybe it has been the result of the hot spot on seinagi. It's the ex-principal who made seinagi into what it is (maybe the guy discpvered the secret of BM0 and the hot spot)

[Neru]

Black metal could be the source of these "hot spots" which give off magical waves. Meaning adding it to any plate and it becomes its own spot.

[Quetz]

http://67.228.163.6/mangas/00000043/00000083/02.jpg


Three magical exams in a year. We can look forward to seeing the BM0 in action in the final exam this year ^^

[xi0]

Raw is OUT! Click HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=803955)

[shouryuujo]

from raw it seems each level = 10% of the power of spell so 10 levels = exact copy of the spell. Also hiragi forgot to mention to kuzumi that since B0 and M0 is the "same card" is M0 is used B0's spell will disappear. so basically if he wants to keep a copy of spell he cant use M0..guess Kuzumi will find that out the hard way next chapter :)

[Koen]

Well gotta wait till a scan comes out but it's great to see kuzumi with the BM0 in action

but the best thing, unbeatable part: is kuzumis face after hiragii senseis voice warp :D

[Quetz]

Can't say much without a translated copy, but it looks to be an amazing chapter :O

[brebaz]

The Chapter looks great can't wait for trans

Kuzumi is awesome...

[kaloo]

I think some of you people are overthinking...

Especially about M0. All plates come from it becasue it's not upgraded, it's the 0point card, and it gets upgraded into any other plate.

And the Black plate is something unrelated to M0, except it can be used with M0. The Black Metal is put onto any plate to give it the hold magic ability.

The manga pretty much told us that straight out.

And I agree that it can be used outside magic zones.
My personal theory is that in magic zones you can produce magic. And the Black Metal holds the magic. So when you leave you can let it out because you're not producing it.

[Saintz0r]

The girls seemed to be worried bout Kuzumi :P
And it's great to see him doing magic XD

[Franckie]

lol @ Kuzumi's hairstyle

[Koen]

lol @ Kuzumi's hairstyle

I vote for the continuation of his new haircut for the rest of the manga :D

[Quetz]

chyea, change it up a bit, reminds me a bit of axel from kingdom hearts lol

[caesarpk]

I vote for the continuation of his new haircut for the rest of the manga :D

lol, to add on that he probably didn't even notice that he had that sort of hairstyle...

[OhDearMoshe]

from raw it seems each level = 10% of the power of spell so 10 levels = exact copy of the spell. Also hiragi forgot to mention to kuzumi that since B0 and M0 is the "same card" is M0 is used B0's spell will disappear. so basically if he wants to keep a copy of spell he cant use M0..guess Kuzumi will find that out the hard way next chapter :)

Actually no. It was stated a few chapters ago that since MO isn't magic it has no effect on the black plate side of things. He's still free to use MO and store magic for a rainy day =]

[Temporal]

Actually what was stated was that M0 won't be copied, nothing about M0 erasing what has already been copied.

[encapturer]

From what it seems; it seems the black plating works in according to my third case; it does not negate the spell to be copied outright. Now the question is whether the claim that the black plate is useless to others is a 'lie', or if there is some fact about the plates that does not allow bonus spells to the normal black plate user.

This is all within school grounds, of course. No need to worry about things outside the school just yet.

[encapturer]

I doubt that M0 will erase the contents of the black plate...

The black plate stores magic, and is supposed to be taken outside the school. Assuming this means outside magical hotspots, this means that the black plate should work where there is no magical potential. Just like the area M0 creates.....

.....


As a side note, do you know what this would mean?

If another black plate user on school grounds fights Kuzumi, they might be able to break through
Kuzumi's M0 barrier using the black plate....!

[Shinsatsu]

I vote for the continuation of his new haircut for the rest of the manga :D

Me too! it looks cool enough :D:D

[fluke32]

I vote for the continuation of his new haircut for the rest of the manga :D

Please no! Dye up his hair blonde, and he's a freakin' Super Saiyan Jin Kuzumi!:notrust I'd rather see him bald than see him look like he's from Dragon Ball.:p

I agree with Temporal. It was stated that M0 won't be installed into the BP, not M0 won't affect what was stored in the BP.

Also this setup made it even harder for Kuzumi to use his M0!:darn It seems that this will make life even more troublesome for Kuzumi.:p

[OhDearMoshe]

Actually what was stated was that M0 won't be copied, nothing about M0 erasing what has already been copied.

Well if it won't be copied then it won't erase what's on the black plate will it.

[Koen]

So BM0 can absorb magic but it can't absorb the M0 skill from kuzumis M0 plate?

[OhDearMoshe]

So BM0 can absorb magic but it can't absorb the M0 skill from kuzumis M0 plate?

Yup. MO isn't magic is it. Its the absence of magic.

http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/88/10/

A little back up.

[Koen]

thanks a lot ohdearmoshe

it's always too much to memorize all information and Mx0 is the kind of manga to contain suddenly a lot of info in one chapter -> maybe a thread about BM0 should be made for that reason only :p

[Who-me]

One doesn't have to be evil to be the antagonist. I agree that the VP shouldn't be trusted. I get the feeling he's probably 3rd strongest out of all living faculty. And he's the type of person who wants to maintain the status quo and dislikes anomalies in the system. Kuzumi would fit that. He's an enigma it seems. He has a higher perception to magic and would be a great prodigy, if he had magic in him. If it comes down to a fight to keep Kuzumi in, I wonder who will side with who? I think most of the 1st years will side with Kuzumi. And probably the 2nd year MEC, maybe not Satoshi. It would be an interesting thing to see.

[Sinless]

Kuzumi's Hairstyle = Super Saiyan 1

[Sai_the_Shaman]

Well I guess I should make a post here for you all...translation is up and you can all go read it now!!! haha...thanks for all the patience!!!

anyhow for my thoughts on the chapter, BM0 is still kinda limited right now it seems, but I can't wait to see how Kuzumi uses it with his brilliant tactics. I also can't wait till he starts to get to levels 2-10

[Quetz]

So lucky i stayed up late tonight, thanks a ton sai

As far as the chapter goes, this entire chapter was a giant piling on of the limitations of the black m0......one shot, one slot storage, using M0 ruins the whole thing..........SIGHHHHHHHHH kuzumi won't be amazing just yet it seems

[fluke32]

LOL! So each level of the Black Plate Test only makes you able to produce 1/10th more of the magic stored in the plate coating! HAHA! Such bad luck... Kuzumi would have to take the test 10 more times to be able to use the everybody else's magic fully.:amuse

Also I was pretty sure when I translated the spoiler, it said that Kuzumi wasn't the only one with BP, so I expected that there were others... But I sure didn't expect that all the teachers would have BP! What a shocker!

Anyway, it seems that using the stored magic doesn't use points... Well, at least I hope it doesn't use points, coz it is already hard as it is for Kuzumi, it might make all the effort until now not worth the troubles at all.:p

[Koen]

So lucky i stayed up late tonight, thanks a ton sai

As far as the chapter goes, this entire chapter was a giant piling on of the limitations of the black m0......one shot, one slot storage, using M0 ruins the whole thing..........SIGHHHHHHHHH kuzumi won't be amazing just yet it seems

You can't say that for sure. Maybe the genius in kuzumi will let us enjoy for another round of creative stuff but now of course with BM0

[renrutal]

If using M0 will erase his own plate's magic, I wonder if he covers another one's plate in M0 field, will it erase its magic for the day? If yes, M0 could be an even more fearsome weapon, even if he doesn't have enought points to use all the enemy's magic.

[RyuSensei]

Didn't you guys drift a bit on two topics? xD "The Evil VicePrincipal true intentions" and "Is Kuzumi a 2nd year?!!" ?
Well, I actually wanted to ask since I'm not that sure of me, Kuzumi's actually level 1 right? I mean he can only absorb 10% of the magic, doesn't that mean the stronger the magic absorbed is the stronger the magic he can release will be? If that's the case he should just go ask the VPrincipal or even the Principal to cast some super huge spell \o/.

[Koen]

:D the end, man hiragii you've done it. Kuzmi doesn't know using M0 erases memorised magic

can't wait for a situation wher this happens to kuzumi

[Temporal]

Lol, can't believe they used the clothes anti x-ray function to conceal M0.

[brebaz]

Kuzumi looks in trouble now lol he can't Use M0 ( he can't anyway for now ) without erasing the memorized magic ... how is he gonna work this one out ? :)

[Caedes]

Theres one thing you guys, and possibly Kuzumi will overlook. Its that he can use M0 to cancel the dangerous part of a spell, and then use black plate to absorb the rest. This will reduce the possible damage he would take otherwise. That can depend on how quickly M0 can be deactivated and black plate absorb however.

The limitations on M0 removing the current spell in the list is no different then trying to store another spell in his list, because it overwrites it.

If you guys also remember from a few chapters ago, the previous principle stated that someone that has a high will power and feel for their environment, will make a spell even stronger or more effective. So a 10% spell in the hands of Kuzumi, could equate to the same results as those that cast it, or at least make the difference that much smaller.


Also, for those commenting about using the black plate out of school, I think this chapter puts that down because of the fact that almost all the teachers have a black plate. It still might be possible, but I doubt it.

[Edit - Oh, another thing that the black plate will have over any other plates, is that he isnt limited by the number of magic points! Meaning that something like the class matches can go heavily in his favor just by being able to outlast everyone elses magic points.]

Anyways, im breaking my silence and starting to post!

[Saintz0r]

Anyway, it seems that using the stored magic doesn't use points... Well, at least I hope it doesn't use points, coz it is already hard as it is for Kuzumi, it might make all the effort until now not worth the troubles at all.:p

It doesn't. He didn't have any points left after the test and still used voice warp and that hand magic o.o
Well, seems to me like the next chapter(s) will be Kuzumi working for the committe to get some points back :P
@Caedes
Good to see a new member in Mx0 forum :]

[Who-me]

Wow. Just wow. This chapter was awesome. So much info gained. That Naomi seems suspicious of Kuzumi considering his relationship with Lucy. I wonder if that will make her either jealous of the mandrake or search out Kuzumi's secret? Aika, she needs to take lessons from her dad in intimidating delinquents. And all the teachers are Black Plate wielders? Cool, scary and dangerous, but cool. I guess this means every faculty member is really screened before hiring and seen if they are loyal to the school. If the secrets came out, I would think it would make a debate amongst them on whether or not to keep Kuzumi.

[Saintz0r]

Yes, he's level 1 and yes, the stronger the magic is the stronger his copy will be.
But VP doesn't know that Kuzumi has M0 and it's not likely that he'd help him. Sure, he could ask the principal but she must be busy and Hiiragi-sensei is strong too.

[RyuSensei]

Yes, he's level 1 and yes, the stronger the magic is the stronger his copy will be.
But VP doesn't know that Kuzumi has M0 and it's not likely that he'd help him. Sure, he could ask the principal but she must be busy and Hiiragi-sensei is strong too.
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[Who-me]

That's the former Principal. He's the current one's father and also happens to be dead. The Vice Principal controls all 3rd years and sent a magic exec 3rd year after Kuzumi once.

[RyuSensei]

Oh ye, my bad rofl. I totally forgot this char and actually misunderstood VP as Former Principal.

[Who-me]

No problem. We all make mistakes. Just some more than others.

[fluke32]

It doesn't. He didn't have any points left after the test and still used voice warp and that hand magic o.o
Well, seems to me like the next chapter(s) will be Kuzumi working for the committe to get some points back :P
@Caedes
Good to see a new member in Mx0 forum :]
Well, I was thinking that Hiiragi-sensei could've, theoretically, given him enough to use Holy Hand when they practiced, and then enough points after giving Kuzumi Voice Warp.:sweat


Theres one thing you guys, and possibly Kuzumi will overlook. Its that he can use M0 to cancel the dangerous part of a spell, and then use black plate to absorb the rest. This will reduce the possible damage he would take otherwise. That can depend on how quickly M0 can be deactivated and black plate absorb however.
Well, that can only be useful if Kuzumi doesn't have any magic stored in the BP coating, which would be also be impratical in Kuzumi's case.:sweat He doesn't have any points right now so using M0 as a partial shield would be very wasteful in terms of points, and Kuzumi need a lot of those points right now to get back in track in his pursuit of a Gold Plate.

[Grengo]

So it looks like Aika has an RB plate now, whereas Mizuki has a WB. Kind of bothers me that the former gained such a card, though I guess having the second most powerful magic user after the principal as a father helps a lot. Mizuki needs to catch up. :O

[Maitimo]

He doesn't have any points right now so using Mo as a partial shield would be very wasteful in terms of points, and Kuzumi need a lot of those points right now to get back in track in his pursuit of a Gold Plate.
Now that you say that, there is an interesting point. Kuzumi can now use others people magic, and he has the m0 ability. What will Taiga do, the next time he is ready for an upgrade?
I mean, why would he now change his Bm0 for a normal plate? The m0 ability to me it seems that the other plates do not have it. (At least that is what I think) And besides, if he didn't make it the previous time around, why would he now, he would be in a bigger disadvantage now, as his fellows would be like 2 or 3 levels up of a Ri plate. Why would he ever change his plate now to the end of the manga? Unless, Taiga could get an upgrade, and would keep his m0 ability. I wonder if there is a m0 upgrade, unrelated to the black plate?

As an aside, why would a gold plate user would need black magic? Take Hiragi sensei, why would he need to do that if he already has great magic?

This is what we know from the manga:
Former Principal: The black plate is created by adding a special magic to the plate. The plate will then have the ability to temporarily store magic. This magic is very important.
Users with high magic capability would have more of it added to their plates, users with low magic capability would have less.
There are 10 levels in this test.
Your black plate will have magic added to it in accordance to the levels completed.

Kuzumi: But we´ll forget everything about magic after graduation, so what´s the use in testing us?
And the principal did say that if i had a normal plate, i´d have no noeed for a black plate?
Why do i have to specially come to get tested?

Former principal: You´re just a first year, so don't worry about it.

Hiiragi sensei: Your memorized magic is only 1/10 the scale and level. However the memorized magic can only be used once, and you can only stock one at a time, if you memorize soemthing, the previous one will be erased.
All of Seinagi´s magic teaching staff´s plates are black plates.

[Temporal]

Aika has been a good magic user for quite a while. She also had WI while Mizuki had C a while back.

As for magic points and their usage, here is how I understand it; The black layer itself stores a bit of magic. As far my speculation goes, normal cards use magic points as a basis of how many units of magic can be manipulated in the magic zone. The Black layer does not manipulate the surrounding magic zone, as it instead captures and releases magic that has been manipulated. This leads to the possibility of using magic outside of the zone as speculated by others earlier.

At the end of the chapter, Kuzumi did acquire a few points, and it wasn't due to Hiiragi-sensei but because of solving a MEC related issue.

[Koen]

I really hope we'll get to see the effects of the forgotten information of hiragii-sensei upcoming chapters. It's great to know that H-sensei forgot to tell that using M0 cleans out the abosrbed magic. He even said it wasn't important atm but knowing kuzumi, he'll prolly get in that situation faster then we think

[makaveli80]

ah, this chapter was pretty wicked. I figured for the time being Taiga would have bluff his way through since level 1 is so weak...but he used it pretty effectively his chapter. I wonder if that level of Voice Warp was as strong as Aika's? :)

Also, I wonder if it depends on where he gets his magic from. By that I mean, Hiragi can produce high levels of spells, and Kizumi can use 1/10 of those atm. So if the capacity of capturing spells with BMO is 10% of the maximum...and let's say hypothetically, 100 is the max. So if he got the Voice Warp from Aika, and she can use 10 points with VW, then he would have absorbed her 10%...

The reason I wonder is because if he's taking spells from other students, then 10% will be really weak. Voice Warp from Hirargi was semi decent because it was from a gold plate user, who use the magic at a different level.


At the end of the chapter, Kuzumi did acquire a few points, and it wasn't due to Hiiragi-sensei but because of solving a MEC related issue.


hmm that might be true, though we don't know when the points are added...I don't think they can be added automatically, they need to be given by someone? Maybe at the end of the week or something.

[makaveli80]

haha, I love the ghost ex principal. He has some pretty strong magic, I figure when Kizumi goes for level 2 training, he will get some nice magic from there too.

And yeah, he needs to get magic from strong people...getting magic from first years, 10% of that would be horribly weak, especially since we saw the holy hand was so useless at 10% even though it was taken from a Gold Plate.

[fluke32]

hmm that might be true, though we don't know when the points are added...I don't think they can be added automatically, they need to be given by someone? Maybe at the end of the week or something.

Actually, any MEC member will be awarded with points after they submit a report on about cases they've cleared up. It was explain in Chapter 12 or 13. I'm lazy right now so I can't be give a link for them that guarantees that those were the exact chapters.:sweat

Anyway. The points for the current case shouldn't be available for Kuzumi's usage until the report is at least submitted.

[fizban]

He should be acquiring a lot of points if that is the case. The chapter started with the girls mentioning they had just completed a lot of paperwork for the MEC, so Kuzumi will be able to use M0 again

[Tal_Shiar]

Hi guys, i have been coming to this forum on and off for a month now, and finally decided to join today :)

I just wanted to say that what i truly like about this manga, are the limits that are placed on Kazumi. Forcing the main character to find alternative ways to solve issues rather then through brute force.

Anyways back to this chapter. Kazumi has two thing going for him MO (which he levels up so often) and the black magic (that he will also have to upgrade). But does anyone else have the feeling that there is far more to the black magic , especially the fact that the rest of the teaching staff has it as well??

[Koen]

Hi guys, i have been coming to this forum on and off for a month now, and finally decided to join today :)

I just wanted to say that what i truly like about this manga, are the limits that are placed on Kazumi. Forcing the main character to find alternative ways to solve issues rather then through brute force.

Anyways back to this chapter. Kazumi has two thing going for him MO (which he levels up so often) and the black magic (that he will also have to upgrade). But does anyone else have the feeling that there is far more to the black magic , especially the fact that the rest of the teaching staff has it as well??

Nice to see some new people joining this community

first a comment, only as a detail: it's kuzumi instead of kazumi ;)

I agree with you, the fact the teachers have black magic as well, means there's far more than we've seen for now. Black magic is certainly a mistery in mx0 but it prolly got to do with the levels and the true meaning behind the black magic but we'll prolly have to wait for that (for a long time?)

[fizban]

Maybe it's not that they have black plates because they are teachers, but they are teachers because they were able to get black plates. I've always wondered how much of a gap there is between students with a silver plate and the people who possess gold ones. Now we can add this other layer that each of the teachers has enough ability to clear the tests required to achieve the black plate. It has certainly changed my opinion of some of the staff (especially Ooki and Kadoniwa)

[Tal_Shiar]

Maybe it's not that they have black plates because they are teachers, but they are teachers because they were able to get black plates. I've always wondered how much of a gap there is between students with a silver plate and the people who possess gold ones. Now we can add this other layer that each of the teachers has enough ability to clear the tests required to achieve the black plate. It has certainly changed my opinion of some of the staff (especially Ooki and Kadoniwa)

Yah, that is a good question. The principle did say that Kuzumi (did i spell this one right?) would be a good asset to the school when she sent him off to get the black plate. And if all the other teachers have black plates, then this does raise some questions!

[Saintz0r]

And if all the other teachers have black plates, then this does raise some questions!

And also a possiblity for the end of the manga - Kuzumi becoming a techer o.o

[fluke32]

He should be acquiring a lot of points if that is the case. The chapter started with the girls mentioning they had just completed a lot of paperwork for the MEC, so Kuzumi will be able to use M0 again
I think not... Remember it wasn't Kuzumi submitting the paper work, it was Aika. (Kuzumi was busy with the BP Exam and all.)

Besides, Kuzumi should be specifically submitting reports, not paper work. Paper Work can be anything, from activities reports (which is what Kuzumi should be sumbitting), to a reflection papers.

[Quetz]

I don't think Aika can get points from MEC stuff, she's sort of just acting under kuzumi's authority in order to further her magical ability, all her points go to kuzumi in my mind

[caesarpk]

And also a possiblity for the end of the manga - Kuzumi becoming a techer o.o

Well, all teachers has black plate does suggest that to be teacher the possession of black plate is requirement but that doesn't mean you have to be a teacher. since you can use black plate outside the magic spots, maybe you can do something with it(prob helping people). So far we do not know if there is other schools (maybe college?) for magic, so we can't speculate much...

Though, can you store your own magic from a normal plate in a black plate? I don't remember anyone mentioned in manga(well, it has nothing to do with kuzumi, since he erases the memory of BP by simply using M0 but..

In relevance to the point kuzumi has on his plate right now, I say there is only 1 MEC for his catching the culprit using voice warp
But, Aika did say she did some paperwork for MEC but i wonder if would count as kuzumi's points;
err...
depends on what kind of work she did(and whether she submitted her report) kuzumi could have some more credit i guess;
anyway he can use M0 soon

[caesarpk]

well, the thing is, unless he gets the magic from dhiragi or the principal, he have to let the magic hit him...and stronger the magic the more it hurt. So it practically means that kuzumi has to hurt himself in order to damage others

[makaveli80]

Though, can you store your own magic from a normal plate in a black plate?

Not sure how useful that would be to teachers. They must have nearly unlimited points on their teacher plates, so would they ever need to transfer their magic to the black plate?

The perk of having a black plate on top of your normal plate is being able to return the attack of another person, at the same level, maybe higher. Kinda reminds me of Copy ninja Kakashi from naruto, he copies zabuza's attack, and psychs him out. Or they could borrow a magic from another teacher, sort of as an emergency technique...like borrowing that flying ability for dire situations if they can't do it themselves :D

We still don't know for certain if black plate magic can be used outside of schools.

[Quetz]

I imagine if there is a spell that is beyond the capability of even a gold plate to use (that is, it costs more magic points than even that plate can hold), then the black magic would grant the teachers the ability to use it.