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IgnorantSage
May 30, 2007, 01:35 AM
I don't know if there is already an existing thread about this but as far as I know there isn't one. If I somehow missed the thread, please delete this one. Now on to the topic.

While reading some of the other threads, it has been mentioned by some of the members that Luffy's voyage has took only about 70 days (manga, not anime). There is a French site listing the length of days it took for each of their adventures. I can't find the link but I'd appreciate it if someone provides it.

I haven't been really thinking much about how long Luffy has been adventuring since he left his village but I was surprised that it took only 70 days or so to get to where he is now.
So far, there is strong proof that this is indeed the case.

I was thinking though if these lists considered the voyages across the sea as only 2-3 days long. I'm not too familiar with sailing but is it possible that the whole adventure (so far) longer than around 70 days, like 100+?

I cannot discuss further since I do not have the timeline yet.

EDIT

Here's the link from the French site: http://www.volonte-d.com/details/temps.php

Thanks Akainu for providing the link.

Akainu
May 30, 2007, 03:44 AM
here is the link:
http://www.volonte-d.com/details/temps.php

imo it took longer but as we don't have any evidence but a lot of indications we'll have to wait 'till Oda tells us !?

mugen
May 30, 2007, 04:19 PM
yeah it hasn't been long
and we usually do hear ...
that Luffy has become a renowned pirate in a short time ...
since his first bounty

Absolutio
May 31, 2007, 07:59 AM
I wonder if someone asked Oda about this.. Alot more interesting than Nami's/Robin's Bra size.. or is it? :p

The Boff
May 31, 2007, 12:30 PM
ive been thinking about this a lot actually.

and i was going to try check it up in the manga but 70 days???
that seems hellashort! i mean that 2 months and 10 days, thats nothing!

i always thought they had atleast been sailing for 6 months. atleast!

i would really like an official answer to this

mugen
May 31, 2007, 02:24 PM
probably Oda avoids this in the SBS...

zelllogan
May 31, 2007, 03:23 PM
It can be more than 1 year because WB told us that roger's death was 22 years ago. And at the beginning of the manga, it was also 22 year. The strange thing is the physical evolution we see with kobby and hermep.

The french site is , like I said before when i was the first to post it :), very convincing.

They took the data book and they used the distance between each country to estimate time of travel between each town.

One piece is not a coherent manga and never was either. Weird weather , weird geography , weird primes, weird power-up , weird timeline , ... One piece is fun and we don't care about all the incoherences.

The Boff
May 31, 2007, 03:46 PM
well, if its true then that planet is about the size of our moon....and thats weird.

but you are correct zellogan, OP is not to be explained with ration its PURE fantasy.

deal with it Boff.
ok Boff.
good Boff.

gao_dargon
June 01, 2007, 01:02 AM
yes, i agree OP is very very hard to explain.and doing so may take out some of the fun, but the time line that would be something i am shure i would love to have, and ode SBS well since he is a know jokster and very sarcastin i dont really take much of his answers seriously just the ones that u can tell he did thougth about that, and he is not just fireing answers out of his butocks with all do respect

IgnorantSage
June 01, 2007, 05:29 AM
and i was going to try check it up in the manga but 70 days???
that seems hellashort! i mean that 2 months and 10 days, thats nothing!


That's what I was thinking too. I know it's been said that Luffy was becoming a dangerous threat to the WG so quickly but 3 months? That seems absurd. But then again, OP is absurd and we still love it.

caco
June 06, 2007, 10:03 PM
i think is more than 1 year becuse coby grow up a lot, so much that luffy didnt know who he was

OP_overlord
June 06, 2007, 11:01 PM
its called puberty it could have been like 6 months and it would have done the same to his body
but im going with you it was prob more then a year

ANBU4U
June 10, 2007, 04:06 PM
its called puberty it could have been like 6 months and it would have done the same to his body
but im going with you it was prob more then a year

Puberty??? More like Mutation. I've seen puberty do some neat shit, don't get me wrong. But nothing that drastic in less then 3 months. Even taking into consideration fictional exaggeration.

Naelyan
June 10, 2007, 04:16 PM
I find it hard to believe too, only 3 months?? I think they might have been sailing between islands longer than we thought... or would it be that luffy and zoro got lost for so long before nami joined them... well, they might have just take it slow on east blue for all we know, since the sailing time is really the one thing you could stretch a lot of time of. I mean, without counting the halt, they almost travel half the planet, so isn't three month a little too fast?

Imitorar
June 10, 2007, 08:49 PM
I say maybe 6-8 months. It's just that alot of that time is just sailing in between islands, and Oda-sensei doesn't show most of that because it'd be boring. He just shows a little for the purposes of comedy and character development, and the rest just skips. Time between Syrup village and Baratie, that was a week or two in the space of like, 5 pages or so. Time from Cocoyashi Village to Loguetown. Time between Alabasta and that ship falling from Skypiea, time between leaving Skypiea and the Davy Back Fight, time spent on Skypiea after defeating Enel, it all adds up, it's just usually only shown in a few pages, because otherwise it would be boring and tedious.

caco
June 11, 2007, 12:58 PM
With brook saying that its been 50 years since he left laboon and the old man from the light house from the begining of the grand line saying the same know we know that its been less than 1 year


Edit the old man name is claucus

Naelyan
June 11, 2007, 01:23 PM
Well, it could be around 50 years... I mean, it sounds weird to say they've been gone for 51 years... and being alone for all that time, it's already something brooke could keep track of how much time passed since then. But yeah, even counting sailing time, it could hardly be more than a year.

mugen
June 12, 2007, 11:35 PM
actually it beens very little
cuz according to Whitebeard in chapter 434 it's still been 22 years since Gol died...
so yeah no time has passed basically

Akainu
June 13, 2007, 06:11 AM
No time is even worse than the 70 days. It could well be like someone stated before that they estimate the time no one would say "Oh its been 22 years 7 months 3 days 8hours and 29 seconds since Roger died" right?

In addition to the not shown boring time on the sea - which is filled up with flashbacks in the anime - time works totally diffrent in OP. Thus on the grandline there are some islands still inhabited by dinosaurs and some with a rather high level of technology.

purplerose_04
June 13, 2007, 11:10 AM
does that mean the time in OP is different then what we expect? like the days are longer, if you actually think and go back to each chapter and count, it hasn't been long at all since some of the islands they only spend a week, after the fight they left so it hasn't been long. it just how long it usually take for them to sail is another thing, we don't know that.

Imitorar
June 13, 2007, 03:59 PM
I don't think some islands, such as Little Garden, are frozen in time, and that's why they are still prehistoric, while others, such as Water 7, are moving normally in time, which is why they're modern. I think it's just a matter of some islands by chance not developing past a certain point, just like it's a matter of chance as to whether an island is a summer, winter, spring, or autumn island, or how long it takes for a Log Post to adjust to a certain islands magnetic field. I can't think of a single explanation of the lost time I like other then "boring time spent sailing in between islands that Oda-sensei mostly skips over, just showing some for character development and interaction purposes, and to introduce the next arc." Whew, that was long.

mugen
June 13, 2007, 04:01 PM
uum...
the development of islands have nothing to with how fast time passes...
time is same in all Islands

weixiaobao
June 14, 2007, 02:00 AM
well, journey in each island only took no more than 3 to 4 days... however the time between islands is quite a length of time... enies lobby only took one day but like from volume 39 to 44... about 4 volumes...

Imitorar
June 14, 2007, 10:30 PM
well, journey in each island only took no more than 3 to 4 days... however the time between islands is quite a length of time... enies lobby only took one day but like from volume 39 to 44... about 4 volumes...


Yeah, I always find it funny that Ussop was gone from the crew for like, 8 volumes, 37-45 or something, yet really, it was about 9 days or so. (1 day after his fight with Luffy when they found out Robin attempted to assassinate Iceburg, 1 day after THAT for the battle with the CP9 at Enies Lobby, and they all pulled all-nighters for this, and then I think a week after that until the Straw Hats left Water 7 and Ussop rejoined the crew.

Chompp
March 13, 2009, 04:00 AM
Sorry about pulling this thread up again but I find this topic interesting. Actually I have tried doing my own timeline and by my calculations it would be something like 85-100 days have passed when they reached the Red Line in chapter 490. So my calculations aren't much different of that french site's. I remember seeing somewhere a timeline theory based on the cycles of the moon in the manga and that seemed quite interesting, but I can't remember where I saw it and how many days it suggested the journey has taken.

Razh
March 13, 2009, 01:27 PM
Can't believe this is up again.

There is no way of calculating the number of days. It's just silly. And it's based on a premise that we've seen everything that SH are doing.
While there are lots of stuff that we don't see, and it takes a lot of time to travel between islands with a ship powered by sails. It's really a given that the author won't presume that we think that we have seen everything they have been doing.
It's mostly small stuff. Like characters taking a pee, taking a dump, sleeping, resting, talking, Usopp creating weapons, Zoro training and coming up with new techniques, Nami's boobs growing, Chopper making Rumble Balls and such.

Oh crap, just compare the charcter heights from the beginning with present ones. And no, it's not only an evolution of drawing style.

zelllogan
March 13, 2009, 03:39 PM
Oda doesn't care at all about the timing, character's height, age ... He doesn't even try to be coherent in these areas. Arguing about it is as pointless as arguing about Bleach captains power level.

deffkryz
April 02, 2009, 07:59 AM
Oda doesn't care at all about the timing, character's height, age ... He doesn't even try to be coherent in these areas. Arguing about it is as pointless as arguing about Bleach captains power level.

Well ... no - repeating this all over and over won't make it right: Oda in fact DOES care about the timeline. You just have to look at the last dozen chapters since the strawhats were on Sabãody Shouto to catch that one or two weeks have passed since. There are enough hints (i.e. Ch. 435 p.07 - constructing the Sunny-go takes five days (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/435/07/), Ch. 253 - Strawhats resting at night (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/254/)) to make a good guess - you just have to pick and sum them up.

Not counting crappy anime fillers of course, we know that the Strawhats:


were at Whiskey Peak, on Little Garden, and on Drum/Sakura for just less than a day each and that it has to take less than three days to get from Little Garden to Drum/Sakura (because Nami would have been dead if not)
left Arabasta after a week at most
were on Gaia for about a day (about a couple of hours at least) and rested in Skypiea for at least three days

day 1: arriving at Gaia -> catching a South bird -> getting Crickett's gold back from Bellamy
day 2: going up -> defeating Satori
day 3: resting in the forest -> search for gold -> defeating eneru
day 4: PARTY!!! -> Return to GL

spent a four or five days around Longlinglongland(sp?) defeating Foxy and being bet up by Aokiji and recover from his Ice Time
Water 7 and Enies Lobby should be around two weeks:

day 1: Arriving at W7, get the money, get the money stolen, Robin is missing, beating the crap out of Franky House
day 2: luffy vs. usopp, leaving the meri-go
day 3: resting at a hostel, Iceburg was being shot, Luffy and his mates suspected, second attack on Iceburg, Robin says "good-bye", Aqua Laguna
day 4: Attack on Enies Lobby, defeating CP7, Buster Call, return to Water 7
day 4-6: Resting at Galley-la company
day 6: Garp shows up
days 7-12: PARTY!!!, Sunny-go ready, Franky joins, Usoppu rejoins, Garp returns, Sunny-go flees by flying

Thriller Bark wasn't longer than a week days - four days at most:

day 1: Meeting Brook, encounter Thriller Bark, Luffy, Zoro and Sanji woke up a couple of hours after Moria took their shadows
day 2: Defeating Moria, encounter Kuma
day 3: Resting, Party

stopped at Red Line, destroyed the Tobiouo Riders and went to Sabaody Shouto, freed Keimii in less than a day.
got spread over the world in three days.
(Luffy-only) stayed on Amazon Island three days at MAX
(Luffy-only) went from Amazon Island to Impel Down in four up to five days
(Luffy-only) spent six up to twelve hours to get from Level 1 to 5.5 - Ace is about to be executed in six hours.


All we don't know is, how long it took to get from one island to the next one. But we also have some hints to make a good guess here since we know that a Marine ship takes less than a week from Amazon Island to Impel Down. So if we - based on that - assume...

that Meri-go was a fine ship(!!!)
that it was able to maintain a decent speed but was not as fast as one of those Marine ships
and that all the other adventures in East Blue took a couple of hours each


... the Strawhats passed to Sabãody Shouto (and Luffy to Impel Down) in WAY less than a year. And that's why most of the characters didn't age that lot.

BTW, that Coby grew isn't a proof that they had to take much longer - Oda answered a question about this in the SBS, telling that he had a friend in school who grew in the summer holidays in a similar way.

BTW, and yes - we actually have seen most of what Luffy and his mates did on their journey since they entered the GL.

And to compare: Columbus sailed from Europe to what he thought was India on his first voyage from August 1492 to March 1493 - that's about half a year as well. So it's not unrealistic to sum up just what we have seen.

Phase
April 02, 2009, 10:27 AM
You seem to be underestimating recovery times in that post.

For instance:
Recovering after sky island http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/301/02/
Recovering after thriller bark http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/489/12/

Travel times are indeed a big mystery, as are any stops that may happen between events. Even if you dismiss all the movies and filler, which is fine, there is still potential for stops between arcs that weren't worth drawing.

My biggest argument is that the entire OP world seems to agree that it takes 2-3 years to sail through the entire Grand Line. Roger's crew took 3 years http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/506/11/ and he took the same route as Luffy (as seen on the Bellfry if Shandia). They're halfway there, 1 year seems reasonable to me.

deffkryz
April 02, 2009, 11:04 AM
You seem to be underestimating recovery times in that post.

For instance:
Recovering after sky island http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/301/02/
Recovering after thriller bark http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/489/12/


You want to "rant" on just a week or two. *laugh* :amuse

In fact, you've got a point there, and I have to confess I don't have every given time spec in my head (especially when it goes into past events beyond Gold Roger's death). It's just - I saw them a couple of months ago and began thinking about how many day-night-shifts Oda put into the storyline and how many minor time skips I felt we had - and I came to that conclusion of mine that we all have "wasted" a lot of time in the last 11 years. ;)

Just a joke - we all enjoyed it I guess, so it's absolutely not wasted.



Travel times are indeed a big mystery, as are any stops that may happen between events. Even if you dismiss all the movies and filler, which is fine, there is still potential for stops between arcs that weren't worth drawing.


Actually, I don't think that there are that many islands on one route of the Grand Line. There also sure is some time to take for the log pose but the Strawhats left Little Garden e.g. way before their log pose was set (about 364 days before).


My biggest argument is that the entire OP world seems to agree that it takes 2-3 years to sail through the entire Grand Line.

I can go with that - if you want to have that pirates' adventure.


Roger's crew took 3 years http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/506/11/ and he took the same route as Luffy (as seen on the Bellfry if Shandia). They're halfway there, 1 year seems reasonable to me.

Well... Don't you think there would have been an update of the character ages in OP Yellow? (There was one in the third Naruto "character file".e.g. since one year passed after the three year time skip.)

P.S.: Sorry for mixing i.e. and e.g. in my last post.

Phase
April 02, 2009, 11:18 AM
I think Oda said that he intended for his characters to not "age" at all. I don't really understand that, but I'll go with it anyway. He can obscure time quite easily thanks to all the islands having their own seasons.

If we could identify which of the routes they took, we could count the islands between Reverse Mountain and Mariejoa on the map. Chances are that a single island has been skipped, the island of which Robin gave them an eternal pose of after leaving Whiskey Peak. That island was supposedly the stop before Alabasta, although it could have very well been Drum Island (since I don't think the manga declares the island's name).

Akainu
April 02, 2009, 11:29 AM
Isn't the problem basically, that they don't have to stay on one route as soon as they get an eternal pose? with an log pose they have to wait until it points to the next island and so on, but they changed direction for little garden, drum, alabasta and thats the minimum as far as I know.

Other methods of measuring time in One Piece also failed until now like counting the change of cloths or looking at the phases of the moon (that only because we saw a model of the world at Ohara which had multiple moons).

Phase
April 02, 2009, 11:34 AM
They also changed direction for Jaya, though it was just a detour.