Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2

[Tsukisama]

O____________________o
Guilford is alive!! Yattaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Oh and Cornelia, too.
This episode was epic and very well animated. I loved the moment shortly before Freja would have hit the Shinkirou. The lance Suzaku used reminded me so much of the lance in NGE, Lance of Longinus. XD
And seeing how Nunnally opens her eyes, creeps me out. Why the hell does she open her eyes? o_o
I'm so used to her closed-eyes-look that she looks strange with her eyes open. kanon's face when realizing that Schneizel is geassed, is so sad. I can feel the love. XD

I completely agree. I did not expect to see Cornelia alive. Cornelia!!!!!!!!! :spaz I am glad that she survives to end of series. My faith in the animators has been restored. :) Cornelia, however, was not the big shocker of that scene for me. Like for you, seeing Guilford alive (though apparently blind and having to use that arm-brace-crouch thing) was just too moving words. Cornelia and Guilford both deserve a happy ending, and it is nice to see that couple.

Another couple that did not have a happy ending was Schneizel and Kanon. Oh poor Kanon! While I was ecstatic to Schneizel finally taken down in the worst possible way for him, becoming Lelouch's slave, I also felt terrible for poor Kanon. I wonder what will become of Kanon now. Will Lelouch put him under Geass, kill him, or will Kanon just be loyal to Lelouch so that he can stay near his beloved Schneizel?

When I saw Suzaku through the anti-FLEJA spear, my mind also went to Evangelion's Lance of Longinus. It is almost like a mecha-javelin trope. :XD


Man it was truly an awesome episode. I'm thinking about Shirley coming back alive and %&>+$-slapping Lulu too...Anyways, after the anti-FLEIJA-lance-show, i watched Schneizel's face with a huge grin on my face. And when Lulu stole the Schneizel from his lovely Kanon or whatever, i stopped the player and applauded.

SCORE

LELOUCH VI OWNAGE 1 - SCHNITZEL 0

Lessee, i loved Leloku combination a lot in this episode. They cooparated so good i must say. I wonder what will happen C.C since she is the only immor - oh wait! Everyone was immortal in this anime, right? My bad...

Suzaku vs Gino = pwnage
Suzaku vs the red haired guy who only talks but does nothing = i believe i can fly
Suzaku vs Toudou = one hit k.o
but i'm only afraid of Kallen...they stopped it at a very critical moment there, i hope Roofzaku can survive Kallen's suuuupaaaa-beamu.

Nunnaly's opening eyes...oh yeah...sorry but i'm speechless against this state.


Oh and i hope we wont watch 20 mins of old episodes and lastly 3-4 mins of Nunnaly slapping his brother and crying.

There was a considerable amount of pwnage this episode. Suzaku and Lelouch were handing out dose of it from start to finish of this episode. One of the biggest pwnage moments of the episode that you did not mention was the death of Diethard. He deserved his disgraceful death, and Lelouch's execution of that moment as though it were just a trivial matter was priceless.

Nina's growth was refreshing to watch, and seeing Milly and Rivalz was a nice touch as well (I smell another "happily ever after" couple :tem). I am thankful that Sayako, Lloyd, and Cecile made it out okay, although I hope that their ignorant Black Knight/Chinese Federation captors (they aren't really captors per se, but they do have them in their custody) die. Xingke and Sumeragi are two who I wish would just pass on already.

C.C.'s fate will be one of the many wild cards that finale has to offer. It would be nice if somehow she became mortal and was able to live out the rest of her days as a regular human with promise of old age and death. Kallen's fight with Suzaku is another wild card. I am hoping that both he and she survive although I doubt that both will.

Nunnally's eyes opening was simultaneously mind-blowing, beautiful, and creepy. Like Schwindelmagier said, I am so used to Nunnally's eyes being closed that seeing her eyes open for the first time not in a flashback was just shocking. If Nunnally is able to walk by the end of this series, then I will just be speechless. That was the perfect shocker to end the penultimate episode. Will Nunnally survive? Will Lelouch get his wish of being able to spend a peaceful life with his no-longer-blind sister?

Stay tuned to the exciting conclusion to find out. :ossu


lulu ran up the stairs quickly...did he get physical conditioning? XD

I just think he was very motivated given the intensity of the situation. :amuse

[hr]

So, with only one episode left, which characters do you want to see survive this series, and which characters do you think actually will or won't?

[rene_01]

am i the only one who thinks that theres someone else inside the room, i mean someone else in that room with nunally and lulu? cuz just think, when she was looking for the key of damoncles she was still blind, then she makes an expresion like if she notice that someone has enter the room.

So in conclusion theres someone else with nunally and lulu in the room, that person know about geass and thx to that person nunally can see again, because that thing that she can see again because her own will is a joke XD

[Tsukisama]

am i the only one who thinks that theres someone else inside the room, i mean someone else in that room with nunally and lulu? cuz just think, when she was looking for the key of damoncles she was still blind, then she makes an expresion like if she notice that someone has enter the room.

So in conclusion theres someone else with nunally and lulu in the room, that person know about geass and thx to that person nunally can see again, because that thing that she can see again because her own will is a joke XD

No, I think she overcame Charles' geass on her own. Lelouch overcame his father's geass on his own. Euphemia resisted Lelouch's geass to an extent but did not have the strength of will to overcome it. I would like to have confidence in Nunnally's character.

There is only one episode left, and to introduce a new character who has some sort of geass power is too crazy even for Code Geass. I was wrong about Cornelia not dying, but about this I just don't even see it as a possibility.

[rene_01]

No, I think she overcame Charles' geass on her own. Lelouch overcame his father's geass on his own. Euphemia resisted Lelouch's geass to an extent but did not have the strength of will to overcome it. I would like to have confidence in Nunnally's character.

There is only one episode left, and to introduce a new character who has some sort of geass power is too crazy even for Code Geass. I was wrong about Cornelia not dying, but about this I just don't even see it as a possibility.lulu overcame because of the kiss of C.C, euphenia was becuase the geass or lulu was chaging [is correct chaging?] and i dont think on a new character i think someone we alredy know but idk who =/.

Anyway i am just hoping to see whats next....

[Tsukisama]

lulu overcame because of the kiss of C.C, euphenia was becuase the geass or lulu was chaging [is correct chaging?] and i dont think on a new character i think someone we alredy know but idk who =/.

Anyway i am just hoping to see whats next....

Well, Charles did say that he cast his geass on Nunnally to protect her; so, I don't think he necessarily meant for it to last forever. Perhaps that had something to do with her overcoming it or some other reason, I don't know. Any way, I would think something internal/related to Nunnally is more the answer than some new character or a known character with some unrevealed geass in the last episode. The animators already have enough loose ends to wrap up in the final episode without having to try and explain something new like that.

[hunter71485]

lulu ran up the stairs quickly...did he get physical conditioning? XD

The funny thing is, he got to record an entire 10-minute video BEFORE the elevator hits the hangar bay. AND cast Geass on the shuttle guards.

[bittman]

Lelouch has re-geassed himself to run without pause on the command of "Leave this to me". Awesome reverse engineering.

So, episode summary: EVERYONE LIVES! Fucking bullshit. Might as well bring back Euphie in the next fucking episode.

I don't even care about next week anymore...oh no wait, Kallen v Suzaku. I do care. Lelouch can go commit Sepakku in the meantime though. Looks like next week's episode will probably be a lot of 3 second glimpse's of Suzaku vs Kallen in between flashback's and Lelouch's brain vs Nunally's conveniently found pleading eyes.

[descendant]

yeah watched it!!

Schneizel bowing to Lelouch scene is priceless
Kallen is totally jealous over Lelouch X C.C relationship :XD
Nunnally finally opens her eyes
i wonder if next episode will be Lelouch casting a Geass on Nunnally
or.. everyone dies in the FLEIA explosion

[Quetz]

anyone else think that nunally looks flat out retarded with her eyes open? Maybe its just because I'm so used to seeing her with them closed...

Last episode next week, yea? I'm hoping its an hour long one, so many things to wrap up and so many fights I want to see.

I'll be kind of disappointed if this battle was actually the last one, I'm expecting some new opponent to appear and shake things up somehow. Doesn't seem right that the series wouldn't end with zero and the black knights on the same side...

[rakkynon]

am i the only one who thinks that theres someone else inside the room, i mean someone else in that room with nunally and lulu? cuz just think, when she was looking for the key of damoncles she was still blind, then she makes an expresion like if she notice that someone has enter the room.

So in conclusion theres someone else with nunally and lulu in the room, that person know about geass and thx to that person nunally can see again, because that thing that she can see again because her own will is a joke XD

Man now my mind is bugged...i kinda thought about too when i saw your post. She stopped just for a moment there, then the next scene comes...

Hope we'll get a less-trainwreck final.

[Atobe the king]

Actually i re-watched it, when she stopped it was at an angle where her eyes could have opened but not be seen by the viewer, so i think that was when she opened her eyes for the first time

[Schwindelmagier]

So, with only one episode left, which characters do you want to see survive this series, and which characters do you think actually will or won't?
LULU SHALL LIVE! Maybe it would become a very cool and awesome scene which fits to the plot if he dies but I REFUSE TO LET HIM DIE! *hugs Lulu* You won't go anywhere.

I wanna see Llyod and Cecil survive as well as Suzaku and of course Gino.
Gino will find something he can protect or rather someone and this is Kallen.

[Jammin]

As things stand my guess is Lelouch will survive through C.C. passing immortality on to him at edge of his death. She will die with a smile, and it will end with him becoming the guardian of the final geass as atonement, for the wrongs he feels he performed.

Considering he would be immortal Shirley may just get her chance to be reborn and fall in love with him again. How sweet:wtf

So as for other deaths i think Schneizel and his manslave are going to die as will Suzaku.

Cornelia was alive as was Gilford

I'm happy to see a few of my predictions were right for a change.:p

[laughing@you]

I hate lelouch!!!!

You know how much trouble is to get my contacts lenses on? His just passes his fingers on his eyes and their on and both of them!!!

Bastard

Oh and what the hell is going on with nobody dying? All of a sudden that bombs doesn't kill?

And for the first time i'm on suzaku's side.

[rakkynon]

Lets make a "go to hell ???" list!

Go to hell;

- Tamaki
- Kanon
- the girl that loves Toudou...

[Schwindelmagier]

Well, you can never be sure when Sunrise has a finger in the pie but to me, it looks as if Tamaki is really, really already dead.

[Jammin]

Tamaki dead? When did that happen? If you mean when Suzaku sliced up his mech and them hit him with the ol' grappler. He was shown ejecting.....sadly.
edit:He just....won't....die:(

[Schwindelmagier]

Really? I just saw the explosion. >_>
Are you sure?

[Kazi]

yeah, i saw it too ^^

tamaki is at least the only char besides lulu who will never die, i'm quite sure about that xD
he is to special lol

[Schwindelmagier]

Fools don't die XD
I really hope that Gino survives because I wanna see a KallenxGino-couple in the end. Though.. I doubt that Suzaku as well as Kallen will survive a fight against each other. One of them will die, I think. The only thing that could interrupt them is a suddenly occurring obstacle/hindrance/explosion or whatever appears there.

[Kazi]

yeah xD

hm ... i would like to see a kallen x gino couple too ^^ ... i don't think that one of them will die, obviously not suzaku because he has the "live-on"-Geass ... i rather think that gino will interupt and then something special will happen, like lulu to reveal his true plan.

I hope that in the end the whole student council members will make a firework at the roof. And it's meaningless that shirley and rolo are dead, it could be a dream from lulu ... i just want wo see this scene at the end ._.

[Huey Freeman]

yeah, i saw it too ^^

tamaki is at least the only char besides lulu who will never die, i'm quite sure about that xD
he is to special lol

He's special alright. Like the kids that ride that short bus to school.

[Kazi]

what do you mean? i don't get the joke :oh

[Tsukisama]

what do you mean? i don't get the joke :oh

In the U.S. public education system, there is such a thing called "special education," which is reserved for those children with mental handicaps. Those students ride on a separate school bus than the rest of the school population that is usually shorter than the regular school bus. Thus, "riding the short bus" has become a vernacular term for being mentally retarded.

[Schabrak]

Really? I just saw the explosion. >_>
Are you sure?

http://img179.imagevenue.com/loc246/th_19743_snapshot20080922234213_122_246lo.jpg (http://img179.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19743_snapshot20080922234213_122_246lo.jpg)
Here he's escaping like a coward after spouting crap like everytime.

Thanks Tsukisama. What would we do without your help. :D

It's not so important to see a happy or bad ending, but that we will have an "good" ending in the end. Open ends are the worst ones.

[rene_01]

Man now my mind is bugged...i kinda thought about too when i saw your post. She stopped just for a moment there, then the next scene comes...

Hope we'll get a less-trainwreck final.yep ^_^ i am not crazy there's someone else bisede nunally and lulu i know! belive me r_________r

for the last episode i want a special things, C.Cxlulu for eternity if that dosent work i want lulu dying and C.C giving him her code with one kiss... something like this:

Lulu- C.C i am diying.... plz come let me give you one last kiss.
C.C get closer then she give him a kiss, she fall down and lulu gets up taking her hand.... lulu is saved by C.C and C.C is in now dead.
Lulu: Thx my lover witch.

If something like that hapends it will be AWSOME! ^_^ =]

[hunter71485]

yeah xD

hm ... i would like to see a kallen x gino couple too ^^ ... i don't think that one of them will die, obviously not suzaku because he has the "live-on"-Geass ... i rather think that gino will interupt and then something special will happen, like lulu to reveal his true plan.

I hope that in the end the whole student council members will make a firework at the roof. And it's meaningless that shirley and rolo are dead, it could be a dream from lulu ... i just want wo see this scene at the end ._.

Did anyone notice his "Live On" Geass only activates against extremely powerful enemies? It didn't activate against Gino and Kallen, which means it'll be a happy ending.:darn

[bittman]

No-one else is in the room with Nunally. Her eyes opened, she looked towards the key. Don't bother trying to look for overcomplicated things in Code Geass anymore. All the mystery of the series vanished with Charles's lame death/vanishing-act and we got left with some bored aristocrat vs some emo dictator.

Wonder how C.C. is going to magically appear in Damocles since she's currently swimming in the ocean? I'm sure Code Geass will find a way (for me to cry/laugh about later).

By the way, I'm betting on Kallen winning when I've always backed Suzaku before. Why? Because Suzaku got smart, I don't like smart Suzaku...and his clothes are extremely mardis gras.

[Schabrak]

Bittman just talks what he thinks and what a lot of people think of Code Geass right now. It's just... that it got all anything but what people thougt. I can't think of any way to wrap it all up in 20-25 minutes. And good point to Bittman for mentioning Suzaku. I did hate him so much, but now he's the last one on Lulus side. Can I really forgive his bastardness since Season 1. And Kallen has gone insane. She knows[I hope so, if not she is an idiot] that Lulu lied to her and did want to save her when Schneizel FLEIA-kidnaped the BlackKnights.

[Schwindelmagier]

I totally agree. I used to not like Suzaku at all because of his betrayal but now my hatred decreased and I actually like him a little bit. :oh

[Atobe the king]

Meh....i just never spend time complaining over something im not forced to read or watch...

I mean, there were people complaining about Prince of tennis and how they were going to stop reading....however it was the same people saying that until the very end of the series...if it was so bad then they should have stopped right?

As for the kallen Suzaku thing.....Kallen is seeming like a royal ***** to me, and since Suzaku has redeemed himself somehow, he is now 3 different types of badass as opposed to 11 types of fail

[rakkynon]

By the way, schwindel your avatar rocks. :D Which episode was that?

[Kazi]

the ava should be out of turn 20, if i'm not mistaken :amuse

[Schwindelmagier]

By the way, schwindel your avatar rocks. :D Which episode was that?

the ava should be out of turn 20, if i'm not mistaken :amuse
Sorry, Kazi...
But it's from Turn 1. One of the best scenes of that particular Turn. And you don't remember? Ryu-kun made it for me.


The second OST for R2 is out! Credits go to yamisakura38 from the CG community.


OST 2 - Part 1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?ym44tzkmo4k)
OST 2 - Part 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?zdvmyfyzmtm)
Original source: here (http://www.geass.cc/thread-1694-1-1.html)


http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee173/YamiSakura2/OST02.jpg

Tracklist:
コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュR2 O.S.T.

＜収录曲＞
01.僕は、鳥になる/hitomi
02.Boy from Britannia
03.Aura
04.Overwriting
05.The Ruins as they were
06.Eleven
07.No Sentences
08.Dark activity
09.Guren
10.What's Justice?
11.Blue Tiger
12.Showdown
13.Le Repos Du Guerrier
14.Sub-chairman
15.Forbidden City
16.Last Evening
17.Cheese
18.Pure Feelings
19.And more c
20.Eternal Separation
21.Desperation
22.Reversed Thinking
23.Theory Outside
24.Memory Museum
25.Nunnally
26.Birthplace
27.Misconduct
28.Check Mate
29.After the War
30.Continued Story / Hitomi

Oh no... every time I listen to "The ruins as they were"... I have to think of Shirley's last moments. ;_;

[Schabrak]

Let me give RS links too, for those who like steady high speeds. :P

Part 1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/147863907/Code_Geass_R2_OST_2.part1.rar)
Part 2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/147863918/Code_Geass_R2_OST_2.part2.rar)

[Kazi]

Sorry, Kazi...
But it's from Turn 1. One of the best scenes of that particular Turn. And you don't remember? Ryu-kun made it for me.


damn, i really thought it was this episode >.<
because a day after this episode was out you had this ava, and i thought it was out of this scene were lulu appears out of the violett smoke
but now that you mention it, it's obviously from turn 1 xD

how should i remeber oO? I never read something about that ... it's also new for me that ryu made this ava ^^'

Anyway, thanks for the OST :amuse

[Schwindelmagier]

Ah, no..the "you don't remember" referred to Turn one not to the fact that Ryu-kun made it.

You're welcome.

[kaliayev]

some priceless schneizel x lelouch moments in this episode. pissed about how lame they made diethard near the end of the series (he was in my fave 5). wouldn't it be great if the real nunnally turned out to be a worse than nina?

@schwindel
do you live in berlin? there's a concert i want to go to on saturday (little ones @ lido) but i can't find any info on ticket sales. i'm in prague for the semester and it would be nice to know about the concert tickets before i buy a bus/train ticket.

[Assymilum]

Everything was fine. It's sad and ironic if Lelouch's enemy, alas, would be Nunnally. It's just... somehow... awkward. Well, considering the fact that he actually became Zero and did all those stuff because of Nunnally. Speaking of Nunnally, I seriously was scared at her having her eyes opened. No, no, it's not because of the surprise... It's about how BIG those eyes are. Dolly eyes. *shivers*

[Schabrak]

No she does not. http://www.lido-berlin.de/events/view/264 :D 8.- € till 00:30 am. TICKETS Nur Abendkasse -> Tickets only sold by/at box office.


Diethard was such a *** for the latest episodes. He didn't "control" anything anymore going with the side, that looked the strongest. Such a pussy.-_- He did act like the biggest manipulator beside Lelouch, but he was nothing in the end.

[Schwindelmagier]

@schwindel
do you live in berlin? there's a concert i want to go to on saturday (little ones @ lido) but i can't find any info on ticket sales. i'm in prague for the semester and it would be nice to know about the concert tickets before i buy a bus/train ticket.
Eh, no... I really don't live in Berlin but that's totally off-topic.

As for Diethard... I guess it was quite a punch in the stomach for him. Being told that he isn't worth to have cast geass on. For a former #1 fanboy, this is really hard. But I have to admit that I liked this scene in the last turn, it was very well animated on top of that. I still wonder what happens with Kanon now.

[hunter71485]

I remember the final episode of Code Geass season 1 also summarized the whole story in like, 30 seconds? That must be what the preview contained. Sunrise sure knows how to keep the fans speculating.

[Host Samurai]

This episode was like a Fairy Tale how on earth can someone survive who was shot from point blank range? Wasn't Cornelia suppossed to be on Damocles :darn... and Guilford surviving FLEIJA is ridiculous. If the other FLEIJA 'victims' suvive too than I don't know anymore. I really hope that Sunrise won't screw up the final episode.:notrust

[kaliayev]

my biggest question about the finale is whether or not lelouch will get the code. i actually want nunnally to press the button to "wash away his sins." then, right as she does, lelouch inherits the code and can't do anything but let out a crazed laugh about the situation.

p.s. sorry for being off-topic. thanks, schabrak. i guess i'll have to hold out hope that there will still be tickets when i get there...

[Schwindelmagier]

Always remember, as long as Sunrise doesn't show a corpse, the human in question can still be alive. Although it's indeed a miracle that Guilford survived. But it's a miracle I'm happy about.

I hope we get to know C.C.'s name in the last episode and Lulu receiving the Code from C.C. is something I would like to see as well.

[rene_01]

I hope we get to know C.C.'s name in the last episode and Lulu receiving the Code from C.C. is something I would like to see as well.receive the code of C.C with a kiss wil be AWSOME!

[Quetz]

receive the code of C.C with a kiss wil be AWSOME!

CC is currently swimming along in the ocean atm, so I dont think this is likely.

I just hope it's an hour long finale. =/

[kiomi]

Under the spoiler is links for the Second OST.

hier is the second OST
link (http://www.steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK341348d96a1dd02fa/)
and torrent link (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BNipponsei%5D%20Code%20Geass%20R2%20Original%20Soundtrack%202.zip.torrent)
magnificient,it is really the thing

[Schwindelmagier]

Maybe you should add tot he spoiler that it includes the OST because I was halfway afraid to open it because of spoilers. As some of you certainly already know, spoilers for the last episode are spreading.

[Schabrak]

And for that rearon I won't visit this thread anymore till sunday everning. Whoever posts a spoiler without spoiler tags should be banned. XD Maybe I will post with a anonymus acc. :P

Don't make a duplicate account. It is against forum rules. :police

[Schwindelmagier]

Don't worry, if anyone ever posts spoilers without a spoiler-tag in this thread, I will fire F.L.E.I.J.A. !!
[hr]
And now, to shorten the time span to the (unfortunately) last episode, some crack I found at animesuki.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9769/1679194lf1.jpg

[rene_01]

And for that rearon I won't visit this thread anymore till sunday everning. Whoever posts a spoiler without spoiler tags should be banned. XD Maybe I will post with a anonymus acc. :Pjust banned? if someone put a spoiler with out the tags then i am gona kill that guy r_______________________r :amuse

[descendant]

LOL that's a nice crack.. and it's more decent than some others that i had found in other forums :amuse

on sunday.. at 4 p.m my time.. i will stop coming to this thread before watching the episode LOL :p
even if the spoiler is put in the spoiler tag, i can't resist opening it >_<

[Schabrak]

Weakling. :D Geass yourself to not get here till Sunday evening. g

[hunter71485]

I've been Geassed to be subscribed to this topic (starting on episode 21) until the final episode. Dunno who did but I bet his/her avatar has something to do with it.

[rakkynon]

I wanted her to scream "Sharingan!" when she opened her eyes.

[hunter71485]

I SEE DEAD PEOPLE

That'd make Lulu wet his pants.

[hatsuharupeace]

Guys... Stay on topic please...

[hunter71485]

Well think about it... If somehow Nunally gains connection to the thought elevator... That'd be one heck of a finale, right?

[descendant]

if that's the case i think we will have to see more episodes just for nunnally to gain connection to the thought elevator and then this series will be never ending as lelouch will try to stop nunnally just like he stop charles and we'll have more war :eyeroll


~ less than a day left for the finale ~
can't wait for it but don't want it to end either :darn

[Alexis]

I have to admit that after last weak, I'm a bit weary of seeing a spoiler in this topic. So I'll just look for the episode elsewhere, and make this my last post in the meantime.

The big question for me now is if C.C. is going to live or die. She's been sending some mixed signals. But mostly it's leaning towards her wanting to die. I have a hard time finding a scenario where both C.C. and Lelouch would survive. It's mainly that it's hard to imagine Lelouch keeping his Geass much longer. If it becomes more powerful, the contact lens won't even block it. C.C. giving him the Code to save his life for example, is one possible way to make her smile during her last moments. Though I hope that she decides to live. Maybe Lelouch will ask her to stay with him, not because she has to, but for once because she wants to. Or something along those lines...
I've been listening too much to track 24 on OST 2, Memory Museum.... :( That was the best episode in the series for me. It was well directed and written, and the music was perfect.

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At least "majou" did come back before the end, and that was good. I thought losing her memories was almost as bad as dying. I think C.C. should stay now that she's finally found love and a reason to smile, but most signs seem to point to her "ending this accumulation called experience" as she put it.
I liked that Milley seemed to have opened her eyes for Rizalz. And Guilford reuniting with Cornelia, now that she's no longer a princess. Nina coming to terms with Euphemia's death and her hatred for Zero was also great to see. And C.C. realizing that she may love Lelouch seems to have changed her a bit. Kallen is the only one out of the major cast that I'm pretty disappointed with right now. I hope that changes after this episode.

Especially because there won't be a Season 3. So because of that, I'll be a bit conflicted about watching the last episode. It will be saying goodbye to a lot of good characters. I think Code Geass would still have had more good to offer if it would have continued on for a bit longer, but it's supposed to end with this episode, so I hope it's a really good one.

So after today, no more pizza eating/cheese-kun hugging witch. =/ I'll change my sig and avi to commemorate her. Now I'm going down to the store to get some snacks for the episode. Maybe I'll get a Pizza for C.C.'s sake. Yeah, I'll do that.
I hope you all enjoy the last episode!

[descendant]

woah that's a long post
if C.C lives without lelouch then she would be lonely and she's still immortal rite
what a boring life without lelouch
and if she transfer the code to lelouch then lelouch would be immortal and C.C. would soon die

anyway the finale is airing now in Japan

okay i'll restrain myself from coming to this thread now.. not until i've seen the last episode

[Schwindelmagier]

Not long, the RAW should be out very soon but the episode is still airing right now. :iik
[hr]
RAW for the last turn is out. TT____TT

Turn 25: RE; (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=34024)

[hatsuharupeace]

And screenshots are up at Random Curiosity (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/09/28/code-geass-r2-25-end/).

[TechnoMagus]

not for the faint of heart....:s

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short summary from animesuki....



Nanally gets geassed by Lelouch to get the key....
Suzaku's lancelot beats Kallen's guren
Lelouch gets control of the key.
Orange beats Anya

Lelouch jails the BKs and everyone
Lelouch gets killed by Suzaku (zero)
But this was all planned out.

[rene_01]

Not long, the RAW should be out very soon but the episode is still airing right now. :iik
<hr noshade size="1">
RAW for the last turn is out. TT____TT

Turn 25: RE; (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=34024)thx! i will not undesrstan a single word but my will is weak =[ i need to see the final! i need! thx you :darn

[rakkynon]

I...must...not...look into spoilers....I...must...not...look into spoilers....I MUST NOT!
Come on nightspeed, make it lightspeed!

[Schwindelmagier]

TT_____________________TT

Can't.... say... anything.... else... right now.... because I can barely see my keyboard due to the tears which are constantly dropping down my cheek.

This is just how I feel->

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Sayônara, my dearly beloved Lelouch. I'll always love you, even in death.
*listens to "Continued Story" while crying*
It was an awesome final but I'm so sad right now. TT_______________TT
I haven't cried that much in a long time, and not for an anime.

[rene_01]

its over...... code geass is over OMFG i cant belive it is just over just like that, all the weeks all the days i was waiting for a new episode and i know it have just saw the final episode of Code Geass. God is really AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! SAD why? why? why they dont make R3? why it has to end i want more =[ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH i am sad, happy, angry! a evrething sucks now!

i will never change my avatar and if i do it wil be of the same series code geass best anime ever.

ALL HAIL LULU!

by the way is 3:24 where i live XD

[TechnoMagus]

for all the weak-hearted who fall into temptation....:XD
http://www.zomganime.com/code-geass-lelouch-of-the-rebellion-r2-episode-25-final/

[rene_01]

boys can cry to right? FCUK i feel someway i cant undestand is mmmmm a no is imposible is jsut imposible to describe how i fell ='[

and again boys can cry to right?

[Schwindelmagier]

Yes, you can cry *tosses handkerchief*
My friend had to go outside to take a breath of fresh air because of CG.

[rakkynon]

crying is free....
T___T

[Schwindelmagier]

Nightspeed subs

.ass-file (http://megaupload.com/?d=BK176YGD) | .mkv torrent (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=34059)
[hr]

We still didn't get to know C.C.'s real name.
=.=
[hr]
gg-subs are out, too

.mkv-torrent (http://ggkthx.org/Torrents/%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_R2_-_25_%5B89519330%5D.mkv.torrent) | .ass (http://ggkthx.org/Scripts/GeassR2/R2%2025%20-%20Gray%20Suit%20Schneizel.ass)

[Bones]

I refuse too believe this ending
At the end we see C.C talking and I wonder if she was talking to the driver of the cart when she said "Right Lelouch" or was she talking out loud.

Its also possible C.C gave her code to Lelouch so ge can live.....The possibilities are endless when you have the power of Geass and an immortal witch by your side.

[RyuSensei]

ECLIPSE
avi http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Code%20Geass%20-%20Lelouch%20of%20the%20Rebellion%20R2%20-%2025%20(XviD)%20%5bC89FF179%5d.avi.torrent
mkv http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Code%20Geass%20-%20Lelouch%20of%20the%20Rebellion%20R2%20-%2025%20(1280x720%20h264)%20%5b1E05978A%5d.mkv.torrent

[rene_01]

I refuse too believe this ending
At the end we see C.C talking and I wonder if she was talking to the driver of the cart when she said "Right Lelouch" or was she talking out loud.

Its also possible C.C gave her code to Lelouch so ge can live.....The possibilities are endless when you have the power of Geass and an immortal witch by your side.yep you are right lulu is still alive, yep that must be, C.C was talking to the driver yep that must be cuz is lulu he cant die nop he cant die imposible never i wont accepted ^_^.

BTW and the name of C.C! they dint say it! are they stupid or what? they are gona let her with out a name? just like that i wana know the true name! :notrust:

[kiomi]

I refuse too believe this ending
At the end we see C.C talking and I wonder if she was talking to the driver of the cart when she said "Right Lelouch" or was she talking out loud.

Its also possible C.C gave her code to Lelouch so ge can live.....The possibilities are endless when you have the power of Geass and an immortal witch by your side.
if it was CC' s code,she will be dead
some spoil says that it is charles code that activate itself when the guy dies(we saw that with charles )
yes,he is definitely alive

[rakkynon]

people can talk to themselves when they are alone. i think this was a perfect ending. i dont remember a final that i became sad and even cried some.

full series got a 10/10 from me.

btw at the picture, there is someone near the rivalz, doing the same poze as rivalz...DONT TELL ME SHE IS EUPHY!

[Bones]

yep you are right lulu is still alive, yep that must be, C.C was talking to the driver yep that must be cuz is lulu he cant die nop he cant die imposible never i wont accepted ^_^.

BTW and the name of C.C! they dint say it! are they stupid or what? they are gona let her with out a name? just like that i wana know the true name! :notrust:


The director made us all fcouse on vital moments in ths episode but not last the minute of thsi episode.

Lelouch has immortal witch by his side combine with geass....Lelouch can't be dead.

Also not all the info was told what in that time skip(2 months gap then lelouch take the throne)


if it was CC' s code,she will be dead
some spoil says that it is charles code that activate itself when the guy dies(we saw that with charles )
yes,he is definitely alive


Yep you are right and your idea is plausible..

I also think C.C wish in the end change and her wish is to be loved by some1 and that person is Lelouch....So inorder for lelouch to fulfilled this wish he ha to stay alive for a lillte bit longer.. Plus if look at back at 2nd last episodes or the 23 rd you could see love between C.C and lelouch.

Wow look at what Code geas turn me into...I'm talking about "love", don't really talk about that sinve I'm a guy and I'm not that emotional.....lol..

Watching this show changes people...lol

[kiomi]

people can talk to themselves when they are alone. i think this was a perfect ending. i dont remember a final that i became sad and even cried some.

full series got a 10/10 from me.

btw at the picture, there is someone near the rivalz, doing the same poze as rivalz...DONT TELL ME SHE IS EUPHY!
are you serious???
it is the girl lulu geassed in episode 12,a friend of shirley

[Schwindelmagier]

btw at the picture, there is someone near the rivalz, doing the same poze as rivalz...DONT TELL ME SHE IS EUPHY!
Ah yeah, as already said... it's the "nani, my honey"-girl from ep 12.

[Alexis]

I cried as well... =[

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I don't know what to say... It was an amazing ending, but so dad.. "Ute iino, utareru kagugo no aru yatsu dakeda". ("The only ones who can shoot are the ones who are prepared to get shot".) I should have known those words from the first episode would come back again. Thinking back at the times he went shopping with Shirley, it almost feels like a different anime. And a different Lelouch. To think he would make himself a symbol of hatred and then sacrifice himself for the world. He really was too kind, as C.C. said.

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But what I don't understand is why he didn't take C.C.'s code. She didn't want to live, so is this really a good end for her? But she seems happy. Is this what Lelouch meant by making her smile before she died? I don't know why this would make her smile. She was even crying earlier. He changed the world and made it better. But is that what C.C. needed to be happy? I never thought that was what she needed. And it didn't seem like that was what Lelouch meant when he told her "I know your true wish now". I thought she wanted to be loved, and love someone. And now she did, but it was lost.
As much as I hate to say it, the ending and Lelouch sacrifice didn't feel like it gave me enough closure. Maybe there will be an extended ending on the DVD?

Besides not knowing C.C.'s name, there were some other things that remained unexplained as well. The time when Lelouch Geass became permanent, Suzaku seemed as if he could see C.C. inside her Knightmare, or the green human shaped aura that was outside.
She said something like "Can he see my..? Or is he also...?"
Is he also what? And that green aura appeared in the first episode as well on the truck that contained C.C. I always thought that was Marianne. Lelouch also appeared as that aura when he entered the World of C. I guess maybe the writer decided to change some things in the story, so this part was left out and never explained. And I'm not sure how Nunnaly could see a vision of Lelouch and Suzaku's conversations when she touched his hand either. Isn't that something that C.C. could do by touching Lelouch? Maybe he had a Code after all...

[Bones]

I cried as well... =[

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I don't know what to say... It was an amazing ending, but so dad.. "Ute iino, utareru kagugo no aru yatsu dakeda". I should have known those words from the first episode would come back again. Thinking back at the times he went shopping with Shirley, it almost feels like a different anime. And a different Lelouch. To think he would make himself a symbol of hatred and then sacrifice himself for the world. He really was too kind, as C.C. said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/Hikusaak/Dreamers/snapshot20080928192605.jpg
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But what I don't understand is why he didn't take C.C.'s code. She didn't want to live, so is this really a good end for her? But she seems happy. Is tjis what Lelouch meant by making her smile before she died? I don't know why this would make her smile. She was even crying earlier. He changed the world and made it better. But is that what C.C. needed to be happy? I never thought that was what she needed. And it didn't seem like that was what Lelouch meant when he told her "I know your true wish now". I thought she wanted to be loved, and love someone. And now she did, but it was lost.
As much as I hate to say it, the ending and Lelouch sacrifice didn't feel like it gave me enough closure. Maybe there will be an extended ending on the DVD?

Besides not knowing C.C.'s name, there were some other things that remained unexplained as well. The time when Lelouch Geass became permanent, Suzaku seemed as if he could see C.C. inside her Knightmare, or the green human shaped aura that was outside.
She said something like "Can he see my..? Or is he also...?"
Is he also what? And that green aura appeared in the first episode as well. I always thought that was Marianne.

Alexis read the previous page of this thread....R3 is coming and totally agree with you thats what C.C wish in the end was....some1 to be love by

[Alexis]

Alexis read the previous page of this thread....R3 is coming and totally agree with you thats what C.C wish in the end was....some1 to be love by
As much as I wish I would believe that, since both C.C. and Suzaku were crying, it seems more like he died. It's possible that you don't die from the Code transfer itself, so perhaps C.C. wouldn't die from passing on her Code to Lelouch. V.V. might have died from the injuries he sustained earlier. But while it's possible Charles Code activated itself upon his death, I thought he shot himself on purpose and that he had the Code the whole time.

But if you want another thing to add to your theory, I'm not sure how Nunnaly could see a vision of Lelouch and Suzaku's conversations when she touched his hand. Isn't that something that C.C. could do by touching Lelouch? Maybe he had a Code after all...

[Bones]

@ Alexis and everyone....Ok I have decided to breal down line by line and body actions at the last 30 seconds.

I watch it online 1st , but i just dwonload the eclipse version 1 and I'm sold on what i said before....


21:58 to 22:05 {We get to see the driver far away and then a close of half of his upper body}

22: 11 - C.C : "The power of Kings, know as geass, brings one solititude"(Notice C.C face is vertical(straight up)

22:17 - C.C: "Not quite accurate, is it "

22:19 - C.C: (C.C's head is tilt back) "Right, lelouch ?"

Now if you rewatch the episode and follow what i said you will see Lelouch is alive.....Therefore R3 is coming....

[_ATMA]

wow after starting this thread over a year ago all i have to say is im fucking stunned its been so long since ive watched a series that made me cry like this x.x

bones im not sure about an R3 but we might see an movie or short OVA explaining whats going on in the world after everything happened

[EL_manana]

After rewatching the episode six times in good and bad quality with subs and without, after rewatching several other eps in order to make sure, after reading different forums and analysis I've come to a complete conclusion- he is alive. Now it seems so obvious to me. And I am so glad he is with C.C. in the end. The origami crane was so symbolic. After all it means eternal life and peace in Japan. Though Suzaku's life is gonna be hell, I'm so sad about it. Even though Lelouch will probably have to suffer eternal life and almost complete loneliness (though C.C. is going to be his angel) and endure the memories of his past, somehow Suzaku's future scares and saddens me most. And so sad Nanally realized the truth too late. I wonder if Lelouch would not have gone this path if she told him those words in the very very beginning- that she only wishes for him to be by her side and that the world doesn't mean so much for her. Well, probably not since the wish for a new world was inside his own heart as well. I've heard that the producers said that the ending was going to be happy for both Lelouch and Suzaku. Well, once again even if I can find at least a tiny bit of good (CC again^^) in Lelouch's destiny, Suzaku's....
Actually I couldn't hold back tears all the six times I rewatched the episode. A rare anime is able to do smth like that with me. Only manga can.
Ah, yeah, I've also heard they are planning not R3 but an OVA dedicated to CC. But of course I am not sure.
And here is the place where I have found the good arguments that Lulu is alive.
http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/09/code-geass-r2-25-so-is-lelouch-dead-or-not/#comment-92659

[Atobe the king]

I hated the ending.....

Why did everyone get such a happy ending as if they were all innocent and didn't have hands stained with blood?

Ougi gets Sr. Ms Fanservice? come on, how did he have a better ending than lelouch....and when he fell down and the blood trailed along the slope, there were chills down my spine

[TechnoMagus]

if there's gonna be a sequel, i'm betting kanon will pull a mariemaia ala endless waltz...

"i will avenge the geass cast upon my beloved prince schneizel..." :XD

but we already had a "send into the sun" scene with the damocles....maybe with all the knightmares too including the gurren? ;)

[bittman]

Awwww, wasn't the ending awesome! I mean, between the un-explanations, total un-realism (though that's been a large part of this entire season) and how the world basically ended as it started with the exception that it ended up more like ours but with gundams I'm really ready to

RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. ORANGE THE ORANGE FARMER!
P.P.S. MARRIES A PINK LOLI!

EDIT: No R3 for the love of god. If Code Geass comes back, it's a different storyline and they've invaded the penguins who are monopolising the geass in the Antarctic. I mean, what are they going to do?

CODE GEASS: KALLEN SCHOOL RUMBLE Z!

[hunter71485]

Would Suzaku's Zero speak? Lulu and Suzaku have different voice pitch. Or is there a synthesizer? Would Nunally be in the secret? Looks like it.

[laughing@you]

I loved it.....sad but awesome!!!

And the writer is a bastard....he can continue the story if he wanted to.

Example.....Lelouch might have survived if C.C. surrender her code to lelouch. He could have been the guy steering that cart where c.c was at the end. They didn't show a face for reason. And C.C. last words could mean his still alive. like somebody said before i don't think jeremiah would allow somebody to attack lelouch that easily. He allowed him to go thru. I believe jeremiah knows lelouch had the c.c.'s code. Meaning that c.c. and jeremiah are the only ones that know lelouch is alive. not even suzaku knows.....poor bastard he was played like violin!!!

there could be plenty of code geass if they wanted to. depends on the ratings it has gotten.

Schnizel could still break free of geass. And start a whole new revolt....meaning this struggle might continue.

i hope it does.....

Anyhow i loved it......lelouch planned it very well. Suzaku wanted a punishment, he got one, wear that mask for the rest of your life. Sorta like the man in the iron mask!!!! Even lelouch, he gained control over the world and relinquished it, probably cuz he got bored!!! lol...

If he has the code he just needs to wait a hundred years, everybody he knew would be dead. And try to conquer the world again. I mean who could blame him, when you live forever you get bored!!! lol

[hunter71485]

Jeremiah let Zero get past because they both know what Zero Requiem is. Schneizel is presumably ruling Britannia, using Nunally as an ambassador.

[shrimpy]

now that it's over, maybe i can ask this (though i probably sound like a total n00b)
what the heck was geass? where did it come from? why were there only two ...what do you call it...sources? (c2 and v2?) when did it start?

i was wanting to understand where this power came in because it's really why the whole show took place, and yet it's like i know less than when the show started...

[descendant]

this is sooo SAD!! T_T
i don't want him to die!! i want his true intention revealed without him dying
but at least he died a meaningful death.. and beautiful too *sobs*
anyway.. C.C is still alive and we still don't know her name >_>
..the horse cart driver that was carrying C.C looks very suspicious to me.. i wonder who he is..
when C.C. said right lelouch.. i think she is talking to the driver meaning that's must be lelouch so he must've pulled up some trick and lives... or rather he had received the code and become immortal
well that's my speculation of trying to comprehend this sadness ^^; but even if lelouch is alive i'm still sad that this series is over

and so it.. ends... :crying
ah well... looking forward to fukuyama jun and sakurai takahiro voice act together in [switch] OVA

[hunter71485]

Did you notice? In the world of C, there is an image of a tree. Charles stated that Geass is the power of Kings, and there are two people who can open the gate to the gods. So, the power of Geass must've come from (their version of) Adam and Eve (or Lilith), gods who decided to create humans and gave them the power to become gods themselves. I'm just speculating on this part though. Code Geass is a hodge podge of Evangelion doctrine, Gundam epicness and CLAMP characters. So there. :P

[_ATMA]

i think that tree represents the tree of knowledge and a representation of the genealogy of the geass holders over time from it being many and many and slowly being reduced down to two


on a liter side note i came across this lolol
http://cdimg2.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/05092008/d/b/5/4/db549b5daefff0_full.png

[descendant]

LOL i think charles's outfit is the best! :XD

[rakkynon]

ROFL @ Zerozaku
Oh and yeah Charles for the win. :D

[hunter71485]

LOL i think charles's outfit is the best! :XD

Agreed. He'd give Hard Gay a run for his money!

[rakkynon]

What do you think about this :

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[Alexis]

After all the tears I thought I'd bring some hope to those wishing for a happier ending. The first time I saw it I really bealived that... you know.. The only thing I could think of speking against it was C.C. comment in the end. But now after reviewing the episode a few times, and reading peoples comments on other forums I've come to the conclusion that the ending is 100% left open for interpretation. It could be either way. But I've noticed some interesting things if you read on.

Before anything, I want to point out that Suzaku and C.C. crying signs pointing towards him being dead. But it may not necessarily have been his death that they were crying about, but rather the sacrifice he made. No one would ever know of what he did for the world, but rather he would be remembered as nothing but a monster, losing Nunnaly whom he loved and everything for the sake of everyone else. Or in C.C.'s case it could have been because he might have chosen the curse of eternal life through the Code.

Anyway, C.C.'s being alive and happy in the ending is unexplained. Is she happy simply because of better world? I never got the impression that Code bearers wanted to die because the state of the world bothered them, but rather that they were tired of their experience. But Lelouch told C.C. that he realised what her true wish was after visiting the world of C. While she had the Geass to be loved, she never knew if they loved her for her, or because of the Geass. Her wish was to love someone and be loved. We saw this in Season 1 when she asked Lelouch to call out her name lovingly in the cave. And in the previous episode she realised that she may love Lelouch. So then what happened to the promise they made? He promised to come back to her for only 2 months, and that's it? Lelouch interrupted her one chance of dying witha promise to make her smile. If she wanted to, Lelouch would take the Geass from her. No doubt. But in the end we see her left behind alone again, her wish is gone, and she is happy?

One possibility is that Lelouch has her Code, or Charles code.
We don't know exactly how the Code transfer works exactly, but it's possible that the user doesn't die from the loss of the Code transfer, but needs to be killed afterwards. V.V. was still alive after he lost his code, but seemingly died from the injuries he sustained earlier. If Lelouch took C.C.'s Code, this would explain why she is alive. If he got Charles Code, then the question is why he still had his Geass afterwards. The answer is that the Code seems to activate upon death. At first I thought Charles shot himself on purpose. But there is evidence that points toward it activating upon death, and that is when C.C. got it. After the nun died, there was a loot of blood around C.C. as well. Also remember that she received a wound in the shape of a certain symbol on her chest. This could either be the stabbing wound that killed her, or something else. But the point is that she got it after the nun gave her the Code. If the Code was active, this wound should have healed like the bullet hole she got in her head in the first episode. So it's quite possible that she received this wound before she died, (which was after she received the Code) or it could have been the cause of her death, which activated her Code.
Unlike Charles, Lelouch didn't take the Code from the person who contracted him the Geass. So he didn't lose his Geass.

And here's the most interesting part, and what definitely leaves the ending open for interpretation.
When Lelouch died and fell down to Nunnally, she first looked at him surprisingly, but without any sadness. But when she touched his hand, she somehow saw visions of his conversations with Suzaku about their plan, and said "No way... Brother, until now..." And that's when she started panicking and screaming and crying.
How this happened is completely unexplained in the episode. The only times we have seen this happen is when C.C. touched Lelouch to show him her memories. She has done this in Narita as well as in the first episode on Season 2. So the only explanation for how Nunnaly was shown Lelouch's memories is if Lelouch also had a Code. Unless we get another explanation from the anime. Otherwise, it would be left to the viewers as an intentional mystery. If he took Charles code instead of C.C.'s Code, then he would have had both a Code and a Geass. Making sense of the title, Code Geass.

Here's another interesting thing.
If Lelouch became a Code bearer, he would be the same as C.C and V.V. In Japanese their names are C Two and V Two. Or C2 and V2.
Since Lelouch is named Rurushu in Japanese, his name would be R.R. That is, R Two.
Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2

It could be just a coincidence of course.
C.C. can't communicate with the dead. It was because of Marianne's ability that they could speak telepathically. So in the ending when she speaks to Lelouch she is either talking out loud into heaven, knowing that he can't hear her. Or she is talking to the driver. The fact that she moves her head and eyes upwards the moment she says Lelouch name is exactly what you would do if you're speaking to someone who is behind you. Unless she moved the focus of her eyes from one place in the sky to another.

http://b.imagehost.org/0074/snapshot20080929161521.jpg

The crane on the carriage represents longevity in Japan. And an origami crane can grant a wish if it is made 1000 times.
Of course this could mean that Lelouch gained eternal life through death and the legend he created. Or it could be that he received the Code and also fulfilled C.C.'s wish. (Which I have a hard time seeing being fulfilled with Lelouch gone unless explained in the story)

How Nunnaly received those visions seems hard to explain without interpretation. And the only answer I can think of is if he really did do it... Otherwise the creator of the anime left an unexplained event in the end on purpose. And I can't make sense of why C.C. would be happy in the bad scenario.

~Edited my post with some more details, and the crane on the cart in the ending~

[hunter71485]

After all the tears I thought I'd bring some hope to those wishing for a happier ending. The first time I saw it I really bealived that... you know.. The only thing I could think of speking against it was C.C. comment in the end. But now after reviewing the episode a few times, and reading peoples comments on other forums I've come to the conclusion that the ending is 100% left for interpretation. It could be either way. But I've noticed some things that I think you'll find very interesting if you read on to the end.

Before anything, I'll just point out that Suzaku and C.C. crying are signs pointing towards him being dead. But it may not necessarily have been his death that they were crying about, but the sacrifice he made for the world, losing Nunnaly whom he loved and everything for the same of everyones wishes. Or in C.C.'s case, because he might have chosen the curse of eternal life through the Code.

Anyway, C.C.'s being alive and happy in the ending is unexplained. Is she happy simply because of better world? I never got the impression that Code bearers wanted to die because the state of the world bothered them, but rather that they were tired of their experience. But Lelouch told C.C. that he realised what her true wish was after visiting the world of C. While she had the Geass to be loved, she never knew if they loved her for her, or because of the Geass. Her wish was to love someone and be loved. We saw this in Season 1 when she asked Lelouch to call out her name lovingly in the cave. And in the previous episode she realised that she may love Lelouch. So then what happened to the promise they made? He promised to come back to her for only 2 months, and that's it? Lelouch interrupted her one chance of dying witha promise to make her smile. If she wanted to, Lelouch would take the Geass from her. No doubt. But in the end we see her left behind alone again, her wish is gone, and she is happy?

One possibility is that Lelouch has her Code, or Charles code.
We don't know exactly how the Code transfer works exactly, but it's possible that the user doesn't die from the loss of the Code transfer, but needs to be killed afterwards. V.V. was still alive after he lost his code, but seemingly died from the injuries he sustained earlier. If Lelouch took C.C.'s Code, this would explain why she is alive. If he got Charles Code, then the question is why he still had his Geass afterwards. There is an answer to that. The Code may activate upon death. At first I thought Charles shot himself on purpose. But what if he didn't? There is evidence that points toward it activating upon death, and that is when C.C. got it. Remember how there was a pile of blood, not only by the nun, but all around C.C. as well? Also remember that she received a wound in the shape of a certain symbol on her chest. This could either be the stabbing wound that killed her, or something else. But the point is that she got it after the nun gave her the Code. If the Code was active, this wound should have healed like the bullet hole she got in her head in the first episode. So it's quite possible that she received this wound before she died, or it could have been the cause of her death.

And here's the most interesting part, and what definitely leaves the ending up for interpretation.
When Lelouch died and fell down to Nunnally, she first looked at him surprisingly, but without any sadness. But when she touched his hand, she somehow sawvisions of his conversations with Suzaku about their plan, and said "No way... Brother, until now..." And that's when she started panicking and screaming and crying.
How this happened is completely unexplained in the episode. But the only times we have seen this is when C.C. touches Lelouch to show him memories. So how did it happen when Nunnaly touched Lelouch? There is no explanation I can think of other than that Lelouch also had a Code. If he didn't take the Code from the one who granted him the power, you could also speculate that he might have both a Code and a Geass. Making sense of the title, Code Geass.

Here's another interesting thing, although it may be a coincidence.
If Lelouch became a Code bearer, he would be the same as C.C and V.V. In Japanese their names are C Two and V Two. Or C2 and V2.
Since Lelouch is named Rurushu in Japanese, his name would be R.R. That is, R Two.
Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2

It could just be a coincidence. Or maybe he became Code Geass R2 in the ending.

While most of that is speculation, the part about Nunnaly is definitely left unexplainable unless he really did do it.. And I can't make much sense of why C.C. is happy to be alive in the bad scenario.

You hit it right on the menu. I was wondering why it wasn't L2, but then you pointed out that the Japanese uses R, hence R2.

[Atobe the king]

I love all these speculations, im glad im not the only one who wanted Lulu alive....

[Schwindelmagier]

@atobe-kun: I am sure you#re certainly not the only one and the more I read of these speculations, the more I believe them. Even if it's not true, for me... Lulu is the driver. *_*

[Quetz]

The ending was pretty much spot on with gundam 00. =/

A lot of the other forums I've been to have speculated that Lulu is the driver, which would be a little odd....

Still, a good end for a great series, even if the ending wasn't as 'epic' as the last few episodes leading up to it.

[hunter71485]

Well at least we got to know what 'R2' stands for.

[descendant]

i always thought that R2 stands for rebellion 2
hurmph! SUNRISE had me fooled there >_<

[hunter71485]

i always thought that R2 stands for rebellion 2
hurmph! SUNRISE had me fooled there >_<
The clues are C.C (pronounced as C two) and V.V. (V two). So I thought Why not L2? Then again they can't pronounce the letter L because it doesn't have a counterpart in kanji.

[kaliayev]

@alexis
the nunnally thing has been around for a long time. she's always been able to touch people and read them (see moments when suzaku and lelouch withdraw their hands from her and when nunn reads her adviser's plans). personally, i thought it would eventually be revealed that she had a geass whenever she opened her eyes. i still say that this power has something to do with geass and may be an indicator of something that they were originally intending to use in the plot.

i'm sticking with lelouch being dead (at least physically). while the driver did have black hair, lelouch's survival would ruin his sacrifice as the silent, tragic hero. however, i wouldn't be surprised if c.c. were somehow able to maintain his existence through her consciousness, giving her a companion to spend eternity with.

p.s. my charles prediction was transferred to lelouch. pooh, it would have been more fun had it been charles. at least, it would have seemingly come from nowhere as opposed to this requiem which has been out in the open since he confronted charles.

p.p.s. lols at the fact that schneizel became suzaku's bitch

p.p.p.s. noes, they gave nu a stomach. who will satisfy my anorexia fetish now?

[EL_manana]

http://i34.tinypic.com/rr1bpx.jpg
http://cdimg2.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/09282008/e/a/0/2/ea0255f3f37670_full.gif
Argh, perhaps they are fake, but so well done...I'm in "want to believe" mode....

[kaliayev]

hmm, did we ever find out how v.v. got his code?

[hunter71485]

http://i34.tinypic.com/rr1bpx.jpg
http://cdimg2.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/09282008/e/a/0/2/ea0255f3f37670_full.gif
Argh, perhaps they are fake, but so well done...I'm in "want to believe" mode....

Lols the photoshopped parts are too obvious. At that size the only one not digitized to a certain extent was Lulu's head.

[Alexis]

the nunnally thing has been around for a long time. she's always been able to touch people and read them (see moments when suzaku and lelouch withdraw their hands from her and when nunn reads her adviser's plans).
She didn't read her plans. But she could tell that she was telling a lie, possibly because she felt her hand tensing up. In this case Lelouch wasn't telling a lie, nor telling the truth. He wasn't trying to convince Nunnally of anything.
If Nunnally can read people's minds that would mean she has paranormal abilities, and that's not something we have seen before. We have seen memories shown through visions before though, from C.C.

C.C.'s ending is also very strange without having Lelouch in it. So if he isn't there then we should have gotten an explanation for why she is happy, and what happened to her wish.

[Schwindelmagier]

I agree that Nunnally couldn't read her brother's (last) thoughts because of a possible code but just because she's Nunnally. She is still, after all, somehow like a lie detector. And Lelouch lied to the very end just as Kallen and Suzaku demanded of him. He lied to the very end so that everyone could focus their hatred towards him and that this hatred could vanish with the 99th Emperor of Britannia.

[Alexis]

I agree that Nunnally couldn't read her brother's (last) thoughts because of a possible code but just because she's Nunnally. She is still, after all, somehow like a lie detector. And Lelouch lied to the very end just as Kallen and Suzaku demanded of him. He lied to the very end so that everyone could focus their hatred towards him and that this hatred could vanish with the 99th Emperor of Britannia.
But Lelouch even didn't even anything at that moment. If you hook up a lie detector to a person, no matter what reading you get, it's impossible to determine what it means unless you ask them a question. Nunnally did ask her advisory a question though. And previous times we weren't shown images when she touched anyone either (accompanied by creepy music) Although that could have been for dramatical effect, but the only times visions were shown before is when C.C. touched someone.

[Schwindelmagier]

Nunnally is his sister. Does she really need an answer/sentence after so many years living with him?

[shrimpy]

he would have had both a Code and a Geass. Making sense of the title, Code Geass.

PURE GENIUS. This never struck me. I have seen the light.

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!!

[Alexis]

Nunnally is his sister. Does she really need an answer/sentence after so many years living with him?
In the matter of reading his hand? Well I would think so. If his hand gives off some sort of impulse that shows if he is lying or telling the truth, then she must also know what he is saying or thinking about to make sense of it. His hand can't tell the story. It can only tell her if it is true or not. If she merely guessed what he was thinking about, why the sudden shock and 100% conviction? After all, when it comes to reading Lelouch actions, she already showed that she wasn't capable of doing that earlier.

[Schwindelmagier]

Why she is shocked? because she realized that he was lying to the very end. Wouldn't you be shocked too at first.? Plus, he's dying in her arms (somehow), everyone would be shocked about almost everything there. Moreover, it was rather a "You-you... indeed lied to the very end"-shock. Of course, there is always the probability of him having received the Code from Charles and transferring some thoughts to Nunnally. Sunrise is wicked, everything could have happened.

One thing, I dunno how to interpret is C.C.'s crying. Either she cries because she knows that he has received the code and has to live an eternal life, being immortal forever or she cries because she knows that he'll die and stay dead. She didn't finish her sentence after all. >_<

[Alexis]

Why she is shocked? because she realized that he was lying to the very end. Wouldn't you be shocked too at first.? Plus, he's dying in her arms (somehow), everyone would be shocked about almost everything there. Moreover, it was rather a "You-you... indeed lied to the very end"-shock. Of course, there is always the probability of him having received the Code from Charles and transferring some thoughts to Nunnally. Sunrise is wicked, everything could have happened.
Oh, I meant that the shock would be for those reasons you mentioned above. In other words, it was a sign that she was certain. But it was seemingly based on a guess of what Lelouch was thinking about and I'm not sure if she would be so certain if it was only a guess. Previously she couldn't guess what he was thinking at all.


One thing, I dunno how to interpret is C.C.'s crying. Either she cries because she knows that he has received the code and has to live an eternal life, being immortal forever or she cries because she knows that he'll die and stay dead. She didn't finish her sentence after all. >_<
I don't know either. You're right though, she didn't finish the sentence. She said that he did this as retribution for using the Geass on people. In Suzaku's case his punishment was to live on, devoting his life for the sake of others. And if we look at the Geass, as a result of using it on people, eventually you become immortal. C.C. saw this as a curse. So this would fit with Lelouch becoming immortal through the Geass. But it could also mean that she was crying because he lost his life. Even though she seems to see death as a good thing, at least for herself.

What's more confusing to me though is why she is happy in the end. After her contract was built up since the very first episode, and later developed into her wish, you'd think we'd get an answer to what happened to her.

[Schwindelmagier]

If Lulu doesn't want to break his promise with her, then he's better off alive. After all, he wanted to see her die smiling. Well, I guess the promise he really had to break was watching the fireworks with his friends again. It's so sad seeing Milly's shocked face briefly before my dear Lulu gets stabbed. T_T

[Meromorphe]

I am still amazed how the authors are good at telling stories. That was a well executed plan. Diethard would have appreciated, too bad he died in the precedent episode.
Still some lack of development for the side characters.
The only point that bothers me and that I have anticipated is the lack of explanation of why C.C. wants to live and what is her purpose now. I read the other posts and many people are wondering as well. So, guys, share with us your theories please.

About Lelouch's death, that's a troll from Sunrise, because there is no real evidence. C.C. talking to Lelouch at the end looks like when she spoke with Marianne. On the other side when Lelouch dies, his face is not very healthy like the Rollo's one when he died.
So, now I am waiting for an official statement. I won't have a definitive advice otherwise.

[Jammin]

An excellent last episode for an excellent series. Code Geass was great from start to finish.:D

-Orange-kun tending to an orange grove with Anya:XD

-The double meaning behind all the chanting for "Zero" at Lelouch's end.:(

-The final part with C.C. leaving things slightly open. Allowing those like me, who love happy endings, the option to believe Lelouch survives somehow in some form. Also providing a rather good opportunity for a movie if Sunrise feels the need to make some more money.:D

I don't know what the original end was but my bet is it probably wasn't as good.

[EL_manana]

First of all, I think Lelouch used his Code to transfer some images in Nunnally's mind. It wasn't just her lie-detector. After all, in the end we see Zero!Suzaku taking care of Nannally and I doubt she would have ever allowed someone who killed her beloved brother stay by her side. So she knows it is Suzaku and I guess she realized it exactly back then when she touched Lelouch's hand. I even think Lelouch wanted it to happen from the very beginning. After he got stabbed he stepped forward as if intending to fall down where Nunnally was.
A lot of people say that they don't believe he is alive because that way the whole tragedy of his sacrifice is ruined. But why? Even if he remained alive he is dead for everyone he once knew and loved, except C.C. I believe no one even Suzaku knows he is still alive. He can never see them again and talk to them. His name equals hatred war evil blood in people's minds. Finally he will live eternally experiencing the pain of unending circle. his sacrifice is more than tragic even if he is not dead in the end.
And yeah, him being alive is the only reason I can imagine for CC to be happy. After all she always wanted to love and be loved truly. And now she has it - the peaceful beautiful world and Lelouch who is immortal as she probably still is. By the way if they are now both immortals then Lelouch can kill her any time. I am not sure, but Charles wanted to end her life back then and he almost succeeded so Lelouch can too...
Anyway I am waiting for an OVA all about CC. Maybe the reason she didn't appear much in this season was because the next part (OVA) is going to concentrate on her.
And I wonder if we get an official conformation one day. I think producers can leave it as it is- open ending forever. (If it is not solved in the OVAs)

EDIT: By the way, I don't understand the short dialog between Kaguya and CC. What did CC mean when she said that Kaguya could understand part of Lelouch's true nature?

[Huey Freeman]

Awesome ending to a great anime. I can certainly see an OVA for the show at some point. There were a lot of things left open.

[descendant]

nowadays it seems like a trend for an anime to left questionable ending so that the audience can interpret their own ending
was watching sword of the stranger and the ending is also questionable..

i guess it's easier for the producer to produce a sequel or ova if they feel like it
and avoid being bashed by fanatic fans LOL :XD

but it would be nice to see code geass OVA that could reveal more about geass and maybe C.C. real name and of course lelouch who is still alive :dance

[shrimpy]

question about anya: right near the final orange fight she mentions how she has no memories, then he enables his canceller...i know anya has been discussed before, but what were the memories anya had repressed by geass? was it charles? or marianne? ...i'm really unsure what role anya was other than as marianne's container.

[hunter71485]

Well Anya's memory had been modified by Charles. Many times it seems.

[bittman]

Maybe she once had a role - then the trainwreck intervened!

Anyway, just to Shepard the sheep who think Lelouch still lives: There is this thing called production in television dramas. In production, you heighten drama. To heighten drama, you leave things unexplained (to a believable degree) even at the end. Whether Lelouch is alive or not will be a point of discussion, but no answer will ever be given until someone asks the producers. If someone asks the producers, it means they win and you lose.

It doesn't matter anyway, there will never be a follow-up to the Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion series as there is no longer a rebellion, and there is no longer a well-resourced and reasoned Lelouch. As I said: what could they possibly do with a R3? Code Geass: <insert other person here> is 1000x more likely.

[hunter71485]

Yes there would be no R3 because Lulu IS R2.

[descendant]

yeah there won't be like lelouch of the rebellion anymore
but i just hope they would explain more bout the code geass
so if they ever want to make ova or sumthin the title would probably be just 'code geass' or sumthin like that

[SubliminalInsanity]

Although the finale was a bit crunched up in some places, overall it was good for the most part. I swear Lelouche is the ultimate Villain/Anti-hero.

Somehow I found the whole thing to be deep on how a character would willingly take the role of the villain even when he/she has the chance to allow himself the freedom of that. It's even harder to accept being hated than to be liked that's for sure.

[descendant]

that what makes code geass lelouch of the rebellion a very unique original series
to have the main character play such a role
it's not something we see most of the time

[bittman]

Which was half of it's draw. Death Note had the same sort of draw, but interestingly enough in this one the bad guy won by losing whereas Light just got defeated.

Just thinking about the final episode again, Kallen talking to herself/Lelouch actually got me more than Nunally falling down the steps. Oh, of course Lelouch dying in her hands whilst remembering his life is still unbeatable...

...on that sensitive note OMG LELOUCHXSHIRLEYINHEAV-oh wait, he's the bad guy.

[Y-on]

Well I think that Sunrise left the ending open ended to satisfy the different desires of fans, as usually there's despute over contrete endings. Though as I see it there are three logical endings:
1. Lelouch actually died and C.C. was just talking to herself in the ending, the most blunt and probably easiest to prove.
2. Lelouch is the cart driver and somehow lived, whether it be that he cast the Geass on everyone to think he died, or he received C.C.'s code.
3. C.C. is talking to Lelouch's spirit as she did his mother's.
Buuuuuuuuuuuut I have my own theory about the ending:
http://www.tsukuru.info/r2/soudana.gif

[EL_manana]

XDXDXDXDXDXD brilliant!!!

EDIT: Does anybody know what is the name of the song that is played just before the ending where the "new" world is shown. I mean where Kallen and everyone after the war are shown and C.C is lying on the straw. I want to download it so much!

[Y-on]

XDXDXDXDXDXD brilliant!!!

EDIT: Does anybody know what is the name of the song that is played just before the ending where the "new" world is shown. I mean where Kallen and everyone after the war are shown and C.C is lying on the straw. I want to download it so much!

The song is called "Continued Story" by Hitomi Kuroishi, you can also find it in the second Code Geass OST. ^^
EDIT: I uploaded it to Mediafire for ye. x3
http://www.mediafire.com/?5zth4uzoyym

[EL_manana]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! I almost came to the point of cutting it out from the episode itself with all those voices and extra sounds, but that's so much better!!!

[Tsukisama]

Jeremiah let Zero get past because they both know what Zero Requiem is. Schneizel is presumably ruling Britannia, using Nunally as an ambassador.

I think that Schneizel probably was coerced through geass either to name Nunnally the ruler or to abdicate naming Cornelia the ruler. As seen in the scene where Nunnally is greeting the Japanese dignitary (Ohgi), Schneizel is in the background wearing what looks to be the outfit of a butler or attendant.

[Y-on]

I think that Schneizel probably was coerced through geass either to name Nunnally the ruler or to abdicate naming Cornelia the ruler. As seen in the scene where Nunnally is greeting the Japanese dignitary (Ohgi), Schneizel is in the background wearing what looks to be the outfit of a butler or attendant.

Correct, remember to consider that Schneizel is still under the control of Zero. When Lelouch cast Geass of on him, though most of you know this, he told him to "Obey Zero", he didn't say to "Obey me, Lelouch", so now Schneizel is under Suzaku's control. Nunnally is most likely the empress of Britannia as she is seen with Ohgi (now Japan's Prime Minister) shaking hands, signifying a truce between the two countries. If Schneizal were the emperor then it would have been more appropriate for him to shake Ohgi's hand instead of Nunnally, so I presume you're right about Schneizal being a servant *cough bishie cough* to Nunnally now (though really it's Zero/Suzaku). XD

[bittman]

Tsuny, you win first prize. Lelouch's smile is lulz-arific

[Y-on]

Lol, his expression was like "I can come out now right?"

[descendant]

The song is called "Continued Story" by Hitomi Kuroishi, you can also find it in the second Code Geass OST. ^^
EDIT: I uploaded it to Mediafire for ye. x3
http://www.mediafire.com/?5zth4uzoyym

i've been listening to that song like 24 hours a day even in my sleep
a very addicting song
anyone has the lyric?
saw the lyric sumwhere.. but the words are all japanese
i swear i could hear some english words in that song

^ yeah i think Nunnally is the Empress.. even Schneizel himself said that 'the person that is most fit to be the emperor is nunnally' .. back in episode 22
Cornelia said Schneizel does not possess a desire so maybe he's not interested in being an emperor or maybe his desire is only to win against lelouch

[Y-on]

i've been listening to that song like 24 hours a day even in my sleep
a very addicting song
anyone has the lyric?
saw the lyric sumwhere.. but the words are all japanese
i swear i could hear some english words in that song

^ yeah i think Nunnally is the Empress.. even Schneizel himself said that 'the person that is most fit to be the emperor is nunnally' .. back in episode 22
Cornelia said Schneizel does not possess a desire so maybe he's not interested in being an emperor or maybe his desire is only to win against lelouch

Lol, same here ^^. Here are the lyrics:

English Lyrics:
Even just with that single droplet
I just might be able to protect the flower
It’s your smiling face, and with that alone
I can even reach out my hands

If you gather up those trembling voices
You just might be able to start a wind
Light the fleeting glow known as your life
And move your feet forward

Let’s meet again someday
As long as we’re still alive

What are my overflowing thoughts
That overcome time yet get caught by it?
Where are those people now?
Who keep kindness in corners of their eyes

There’s a new seat next to me
We’ll meet again for the sake of the future
Let’s try living through the day known as today
For as long as we can without façades

It’s sad and painful for people
Nevertheless, their roads continue endlessly

Let’s meet again someday
As long as we’re still alive
That which the wind carries
Is a melody that opens up tomorrow

Let’s meet again someday
As long as we’re still alive
That which the wind carries
Is a melody that opens up tomorrow

Japanese (Romaji) lyrics:
Sono hitotsubu no shizuku de sae mo
Hana o mamoru kamo shirenai
Sono waraigao tada sore dake de
Sashinoberu te ni mo nareru

Sono furueteru koe atsumereba
Kaze o okosu kamo shirenai
Sono inochi to iu hakanaki akari
Tomoshite ashi o susumeyou

Itsuka mata aou
Ikiteru kagiri

Toki o koe toraerareteru
Afureru kono omoi wa nani?
Yasashisa ga mejiri ni niau
Ano hito-tachi wa ima doko ni iru no?

Tonari ni wa atarashii seki
Mirai no tame ni mata deau
Kazaranai mama dekiru dake
Ikite miyou kyou to iu hi

Kanashikute hito wa setsunai
Sore de mo doko made mo michi wa tsuzuku

Itsuka mata aou
Ikiteru kagiri
Kaze ga hakobu mono
Asu o hiraku merodi

Itsuka mata aou
Ikiteru kagiri
Kaze ga hakobu mono
Asu o hiraku merodi

[True Blade]

I liked the ending because I liked Lelouch. In the end it was Lelouch's victory, despite it being... well, you know.

I didn't like the ending because it was a little... I dunno, corny, in my opinion.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/nukethetuna/motivator2119900.jpg

[descendant]

Lol, same here ^^. Here are the lyrics:

English Lyrics:
Even just with that single droplet
I just might be able to protect the flower
It’s your smiling face, and with that alone
I can even reach out my hands

If you gather up those trembling voices
You just might be able to start a wind
Light the fleeting glow known as your life
And move your feet forward

Let’s meet again someday
As long as we’re still alive

What are my overflowing thoughts
That overcome time yet get caught by it?
Where are those people now?
Who keep kindness in corners of their eyes

There’s a new seat next to me
We’ll meet again for the sake of the future
Let’s try living through the day known as today
For as long as we can without façades

It’s sad and painful for people
Nevertheless, their roads continue endlessly

Let’s meet again someday
As long as we’re still alive
That which the wind carries
Is a melody that opens up tomorrow

Let’s meet again someday
As long as we’re still alive
That which the wind carries
Is a melody that opens up tomorrow

Japanese (Romaji) lyrics:
Sono hitotsubu no shizuku de sae mo
Hana o mamoru kamo shirenai
Sono waraigao tada sore dake de
Sashinoberu te ni mo nareru

Sono furueteru koe atsumereba
Kaze o okosu kamo shirenai
Sono inochi to iu hakanaki akari
Tomoshite ashi o susumeyou

Itsuka mata aou
Ikiteru kagiri

Toki o koe toraerareteru
Afureru kono omoi wa nani?
Yasashisa ga mejiri ni niau
Ano hito-tachi wa ima doko ni iru no?

Tonari ni wa atarashii seki
Mirai no tame ni mata deau
Kazaranai mama dekiru dake
Ikite miyou kyou to iu hi

Kanashikute hito wa setsunai
Sore de mo doko made mo michi wa tsuzuku

Itsuka mata aou
Ikiteru kagiri
Kaze ga hakobu mono
Asu o hiraku merodi

Itsuka mata aou
Ikiteru kagiri
Kaze ga hakobu mono
Asu o hiraku merodi

Thanx!! was looking for the romaji everywhere~
but i think this lyric only starts at 1:53 rite?
does anyone has the lyric that she sang softly at the beginning?

[rene_01]

so at the the end, 2 inmortals are walking in the world......

does any one knows if theres gona be an ova? and if theres gona be one when is gona come out?

BTW from now on i am gona end my messange with a phares of code geass:


ALL HAILL LELOUCH!

[Y-on]

Oh lol, I forgot, for the people who were wondering what the Lelouch and C.C. are saying in this pic:
http://www.tsukuru.info/r2/soudana.gif

Romaji:
C.C.: Naa, Rurushou?
Lelouch: Sodana

Translation:
C.C.: Right lelouch?
Lelouch: Right

[_ATMA]

wow lol i found another great video making light of the final ep of code geass

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/30/code-geass-nipponpon-finale/

another great video this is indeed xD

[Schabrak]

Hehe Nunally in neko form. XD I knew it did remind me of something: The Ronald McDonald Insanity g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16KpquGsIc) You have to watch it to the end and no skipping allowed

The other CG Animation is good too. XD http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/30/geass-syndrom/

[_ATMA]

Hehe Nunally in neko form. XD I knew it did remind me of something: The Ronald McDonald Insanity g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16KpquGsIc) You have to watch it to the end and no skipping allowed

The other CG Animation is good too. XD http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/30/geass-syndrom/

yes ive watched that entire video before its really crazy lol

[Schabrak]

Some other tribute... AMV http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4806718

[Schwindelmagier]

It was hard to find some really good AMVs for Code Geass R2 first but here are two AMVs - also including some footage from the first season- which I really, really love a lot.

Forsaken One (recommend to watch it in high quality) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvQ-a2EJBo)
Sound Horizon - Ark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6LyYuAmR_s)
[hr]
A Complete Best Album is about to be released in December.
Source 2ch:

The Code Geass Complete Best CD will be out December 24th. It will contain all the opening and ending songs.

[Atobe the king]

All openings and endings? interesting....

All this series needs now is a couple OVA's and a good mech game kinda like...A.C.E 2/3

[Schwindelmagier]

Here's the cover for the fifth Sound Episode of CG.
Source: CG community.

Somehow this looks hilarious and why is Suzaku thinking of Kaguya? Did they smoke something illegal? O_O

http://mcz084.ust.hk/phoenix/dramacd5.jpg

[Kazi]

thanks ^^

i guess they're drunk, see the red cheeks? ... that's definitly a sign for drunk xD

wait ... aren't all of them underage? :oh

[Schwindelmagier]

Mya, at least Kallen and, is this Tamaki?, are drunk. Kallen certainly is still underage. Lulu's laughter kind of creeps me out. XD
Maybe he made them drunk, lol.
Can't wait for the next Sound Episode.

[hunter71485]

Hey have you guys checked out the Wikipedia entry for episode 25? Whoever put it in dealt with certain finality.

[Schwindelmagier]

Cover for Volume 4 is out and it features Xing-Ke and Tianzi:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7638/51x2w9mjvvlss500ch9.jpg
Source: Animesuki

[Schabrak]

There was a R2 pron torrent going around on 4chan the past days. Just wanted to mention that bye bye. :P

[Schwindelmagier]

Wasn't there someone who said "Where is the DVD cover for Volume 3?".
Well, here is it:

http://sheryl.imouto.org/sample/ef22f740422ccfdd65257c4fd3b4dd28/moe%2046819%20sample.jpg
[hr]
List of people who died in CG R2:

http://pics.livejournal.com/karice67/pic/000dhwrr
And the last name listed is...
Lelouch Vi Britannia.
Well, I personally still stick to Taniguchi's popular phrase to all Code Geass R2 fans:
"(the end - so whether Lulu is alive or not) is up to your imagination!"


Source: CG Community / karice67
[hr]
And another scan, same source, same scanner.
Lelouch's Life - Lelouch no seikatsu
"The life of Lelouch was beautiful nobly."

http://pics.livejournal.com/karice67/pic/000df4k9

[Schabrak]

Open ends are for dreamers. I like him that way, six feet under. XD

As much as I was on his side, a murderer must end dead at the end of the story. At least we can say, he did die for a cause. g

[TechnoMagus]

hey this is unfair!
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-10-30/bandai-ent-posts-english-dubbed-code-geass-r2-trailer
http://code-geass.bandai-ent.com/

they don't get to wait for a year for R2 like everyone else ?!?! :yelling

[Atobe the king]

The first episode aired last night/this morning (stupid graveyard slot)

[Schwindelmagier]

Well, that's America. But because they licensed R2 together with the first season, we feared that the subs could be in danger. Luckily, the subs weren't dropped or anything like that.

[Alexis]

I was wondering, what song is playing during the ending scene of the last episode? Besides "Continued story" I think there was another song playing as well. What's it's name and on which OST can if be found?

[Schwindelmagier]

The song before "Continued Story" is "Madder Sky" but there are also songs which were played but aren't on the OSTs such as the song played at the beginning of the last episode (shortly after the OP when Kallen and Suzaku's fight continues). Unfortunately~

Madder Sky should be on R2 OST 1 (or 2?)

[Jammin]

On Cartoon Network's Adult Swim Code Geass is going to be pulled out of the graveyard slot(5am) and is going to move to 2am(still pretty late:() this weekend. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-03/adult-swim-moves-code-geass-r2-tv-series-to-2-a.m) The series will restart R2 from that time slot and will continue there for the foreseeable future.

The talk is that Bandai put their foot down. Supposedly they were about pull the license from Adult Swim and offer it to someone else, like the Sci-Fi Channel. Since sending the show to such an useless time slot constituted a violation of the license agreement. Which forced Adult Swim to put it in a more reasonable slot or lose it.

Something that probably also plays into this is the fact that Adult Swim's Saturday original comedy lineup they used to replace the majority of their anime was getting pathetic ratings, far worse than the anime lineup ratings.

So Code Geass is still getting screwed by Adult Swim but not as badly as it was before.:p

[Schwindelmagier]

Code Geass Complete Best is going to be released on 14th January. The cover looks amazing, Lulu is spreading his sex appeal.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/nokiirat/cgcbcdth.jpg
The limited edition will come with the following:
1. DVD with creditless openings and endings
2. Special illustrated box
3. 3 booklets (story guide, lyric booklet, illustrated short story)
4. 8 postcards
5. Picture label/sticker


Here's the cover for the sixth (and I guess final but i can be mistaken) Sound episode.

http://pics.livejournal.com/angel_katsumi/pic/0002kqep
Character song will be "Reason" by Hoshi Souichiro (Gino) and Midorikawa Hikaru (Xing-Ke)!


Source: CG LJ community

[TechnoMagus]

finally a decent hat for lulu....:XD

just want to share....so funny...:D




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2976893891_da969a02af.jpg?v=0

[Schwindelmagier]

Here's the cover for DVD volume 5 (source is as always CG LJ community)

http://pics.livejournal.com/angel_katsumi/pic/0002y3x9/s640x480

[Alexis]

The song before "Continued Story" is "Madder Sky" but there are also songs which were played but aren't on the OSTs such as the song played at the beginning of the last episode (shortly after the OP when Kallen and Suzaku's fight continues). Unfortunately~

Madder Sky should be on R2 OST 1 (or 2?)
Thanks. I wanted to put it on my mp3 before I had to go to school, but wasn't sure where to look for it. :amuse

And here's a bigger version of the Code Geass Complete Best cover.

http://e.imagehost.org/0490/lelouchbritanniajq5.jpg

Source: Animesuki

[Schwindelmagier]

Together with the Code Geass Mutuality Artbook by Clamp, the artbook "Illustrations Relation" for R2 (similar to the Illustrations Rebels Artbook) will be released on 6th December.
Here's a picture and you can already pre-order it on amazon.jp.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/nokiirat/cgilrelation.jpg

Source: CG LJ community
[hr]
Here are some pictures from the new Picture Drama, source is CG LJ community (and they got them from animesuki). My first reaction... WTF. XD


http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader847348.jpg

http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader847349.jpg

http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader847351.jpg
YESH! That's LULU!!! *____*

http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader847352.jpg

[Atobe the king]

ummm all the fanservice is.....

Where the hell is my mech based geass game?

[TechnoMagus]

all fangirls (and fanboys...:s) should rejoice if this is canonically true...
http://iamagundam.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/code-geass-lelouch-is-a-virgin/

[Schwindelmagier]

Hehe, I knew it.
My little inexperienced (anti-)hero. <33

[Atobe the king]

I disagree with the end of that article..."he wasn't into girls anyway" um...yea he is...his final flashbacks involved two of his little make out sessions

[Schwindelmagier]

I agree with you, atobe-kun.
I mean, he may be a little dimwitted when it comes to "love" --best proof is the Xing-KexTianzi-stuff-- but he still can fall in love with a girl. After all, Euphie was his first love as he said it himself in episode 23 of the first season and he also seems to like Shirley very much. There was an unfinished sentence in episode 3 of R2 when Lelouch and Shirley went "shopping". Taniguchi once completed the sentence if I am not mistaken and it was like "Once this is over, I'll certainly fall in love with you.". Lulu's original sentence was "Subete wa owattara, kitto kimi wo..."
and this "kimi wo" certainly refers to Shirley.

[Atobe the king]

Not only that, but when Shirley asked him if he'd loved the girl (the girl was of course shirley but she lost her memories) he said he wasn't sure, he was contemplating his feelings

He loved C.C i think..........he hints at it who know what he was about to say/do before Kallen showed up in R2 24

As for Kallen...they had quite a few moments in R2...especially the one that C.C carefully interrupted for Tabasco sauce (on her damn pizza no less)

[Schwindelmagier]

Beautiful cover for the released "Illustrations Relation"-Artbook.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr86/kanalelou/f3de0015.jpg

Source: http://kanameclan.blog120.fc2.com/

[Host Samurai]

Beautiful cover for the released "Illustrations Relation"-Artbook.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr86/kanalelou/f3de0015.jpg

Source: http://kanameclan.blog120.fc2.com/

Omg that cover looks amazing! Can someone please make me a signature out of it? Thanks in advance.

[Schwindelmagier]

Here (http://moe.imouto.org/post/index?tags=code_geass) are high-res scans of the covers of "Mutuality" and "Illustrations Relation" as well as scans from within the "Illustrations Relation"-Artbook.

[Alexis]

Here are some new full size scans.
Found on Minitokyo.

http://e.imagehost.org/t/0420/Minitokyo364218.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0420/Minitokyo364218) http://e.imagehost.org/t/0502/Minitokyo364234.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0502/Minitokyo364234)

http://e.imagehost.org/t/0586/Minitokyo364232.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0586/Minitokyo364232) http://e.imagehost.org/t/0735/Minitokyo364219.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0735/Minitokyo364219)
------------------------------------

And DVD cover 6.

http://e.imagehost.org/0113/61hmtgtoawlss500uy9.jpg

[Atobe the king]

i love the artwork.....awww...nunally and rolo...two Lulu obsessed people together

[TechnoMagus]

okay, this level of geass otakuness just gives me the creeps or whatever....remember, this is for a wedding...NOT a cosplay event....


http://thyalla.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/grooms-attire/
http://thyalla.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/hail-britannia/

i mean he could have worn schneitzel's attire or lulu's white emperor outfit...:XD

[Schwindelmagier]

The final Picture Drama of CG will most probably deal with the characters after the last episode! So we will get to see what happened with everyone afterwards (maybe we can take a look at Ougi and Viletta's child).
Source: CG community (http://community.livejournal.com/code_geass/1186589.html?#cutid1)

[Alexis]

I heard that when asked if Lelouch really died in an interview, the writer of Code Geass said "it's up to the viewers", or something like that.

Could someone provide me with me a link to this interview please?

[Schabrak]

There was a source some pages back with Lulus status: dead. I think it was the original homepage.

[Digitalr]

There was a source some pages back with Lulus status: dead. I think it was the original homepage.

Oh the same page that marked Nunnaly as dead and then, as if struck by lightning, she was revived.

[Alexis]

There was a source some pages back with Lulus status: dead. I think it was the original homepage.
I've seen a magazine scan with a plain list of casualties.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3955/000dhwrrjy1.jpg

In the end it says:

Zero Requiem
Lelouch Lamperouge

I don't know where the scan was from exactly, but Lelouch was obviously portrayed as dead in the end, even though it was ambiguous. If Lelouch was not listed on this list then there would be no question about whether or not he survived. Same as with how Nunnally was listed as dead on the official site.

But what I'm looking for is the source of where the writer said that "it's up to the viewers". I've seen it being mentioned on Animesuki a few times, and I thought I saw someone mention it here as well.

[death4578]

Another Code Geass ? (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=59154) I think it will probably be a prequel about Lelouch childhood or something like that, or maybe some loli C.C ? :D

[Alexis]

Perhaps it'll be a prequel about C.C? That would be pretty cool. Either way this sounds like good news to me because I wanted more. Whether it was related to the main story, or the crazy events at school, I thought all of it was entertaining.
Btw, notice the (?) next to "Lelouch died (?)". It's in the middle of the scan on the bottom.

[paradoxe]

R2 pretty much killed the series for me.

I mean it wasn't really as bad as most people made out it to be..it was just that the first season was so good..

Meh at least R2 was entertaining, even if it didn't make any sense at all. And that it made me hate some of the characters (Kallen T.T)

[Jammin]

R2 pretty much killed the series for me.

I mean it wasn't really as bad as most people made out it to be..it was just that the first season was so good..

Meh at least R2 was entertaining, even if it didn't make any sense at all. And that it made me hate some of the characters (Kallen T.T)It's funny how different people see things so differently. I thought Season 1 was decent, not great, and Season 2 was fantastic.:amuse

As for the possibility of another series, more Code Geass in any form would be awesome. So many mecha series repeat the same sad formula of powerful mechs killing weak mechs with no decent thought or strategy going on at all. By infusing significant amounts of intrigue and intelligent strategy Code Geass dared to be different. I'd like to see more of that formula even if they choose to so something like move on to a new main character.:)

[paradoxe]

So many mecha series repeat the same sad formula of powerful mechs killing weak mechs with no decent thought or strategy going on at all.

Code Geass R2 = ridiculous mech designs (i mean a pink mech wtf?), 'strategy' that doesn't make sense at all, plot twists for the sake of twists (there were so many in fact that you could expect one or two every episode), too many characters thrown in without being fleshed out nor developed properly (Gino and Li come to mind..what was the point of him having that disease anyway?), the pacing was way off (i guess this was the biggest problem - they had to finish it in 24 episodes)...

Hey I still love Code Geass.

However it became more of an entertaining series I'd watch to kill time rather then something I'd look forward to every MOnday afternoon.

[Jammin]

Well, as expected we value different things.:amuse

I say Code Geass has the most intense focus on strategy of any mecha anime. Typically battles are won and lost due to the strategy, not because some emo pilot has a spiritual awakening or finds himself a new mech with shinier cannons. Sure there were aces whose abilities were assets on the battlefield but even they were susceptible to the power of strategy.

The fast pace was also something that made it special in the anime world. Things happened so fast that it gave the impression the characters were always scrambling to keep up. Even now i can rewatch the episodes and be entertained.:D

The part that i feel made Season 2 so special was the cinematography. In my opinion "Shirley's death scene" and "Lelouch's (?)death(?) scene" are two of the greatest moments in anime. The scenery, the music, the way the characters reacted it was all so...... perfect. But that's just my opinion.:p

[hunter71485]

Well, as expected we value different things.:amuse

I say Code Geass has the most intense focus on strategy of any mecha anime. Typically battles are won and lost due to the strategy, not because some emo pilot has a spiritual awakening or finds himself a new mech with shinier cannons. Sure there were aces whose abilities were assets on the battlefield but even they were susceptible to the power of strategy.
You just contradicted your own statement. Seriously why would you give knightmare frames to cannon fodder pilots? And why are there cannon fodders all around anyway? Emo pilot with shinier cannons and just got a spiritual awakening in the midst of battle? Wouldn't that be Suzaku in the Lancelot? Strategy is staple of mecha anime. Look at FMP. The Gundams. Code Geass is only special because Zero sets up the table.


The fast pace was also something that made it special in the anime world. Things happened so fast that it gave the impression the characters were always scrambling to keep up. Even now i can rewatch the episodes and be entertained.:D
Funny you mention that things happen so fast.

Example 1: FLEIA is just moments away. The window of opportunity is 19.xx seconds. Lelouch inputs environmental data at 1 second to spare. Now take this: How long does it take for Shinkirou to dislodge the FLEIA killer (or the Longinus spear) AND for the Albion to grab it? If you go with physics, it is impossible. The time limit is there just to provide suspense.

Example 2: The machine gun emplacement has a lag of 0.05 seconds. Suzaku took it out. Not even humanly possible.

You want me to give more examples? Not that I hate Geass, I love it, but the mecha action is exaggerated. The only thing that made everything worthwhile is the Geass itself.

[Jammin]

You just contradicted your own statement. Seriously why would you give knightmare frames to cannon fodder pilots? And why are there cannon fodders all around anyway? Emo pilot with shinier cannons and just got a spiritual awakening in the midst of battle? Wouldn't that be Suzaku in the Lancelot? Strategy is staple of mecha anime. Look at FMP. The Gundams. Code Geass is only special because Zero sets up the table.Umm how exactly did i contradict my own statement???:s I was talking about what tips the balance of power. In Code Geass it was strategy. Take Schneizel for example, we never saw him pilot a mech even once yet he still was the biggest threat to Lelouch. A powerful pilot in Code Geass was nothing more that a powerful piece on a chessboard the real threat was always the person moving the pieces.

Gundam and the series like it are always pilot focused. Sure they pretend to have strategy but when it comes down to it the strategy not nearly as important a factor as it was made to be in Code Geass. Just take a look at the main character they choose, Lelouch. Suzaku and Karin could pilot circles around him yet still he was one who always made the biggest difference, because as a strategist he was without equal.:amuse


Funny you mention that things happen so fast.

Example 1: FLEIA is just moments away. The window of opportunity is 19.xx seconds. Lelouch inputs environmental data at 1 second to spare. Now take this: How long does it take for Shinkirou to dislodge the FLEIA killer (or the Longinus spear) AND for the Albion to grab it? If you go with physics, it is impossible. The time limit is there just to provide suspense.

Example 2: The machine gun emplacement has a lag of 0.05 seconds. Suzaku took it out. Not even humanly possible.Well first off applying physics to giant mechs is a little silly and takes a bit of the fun out of it. I mean, most everything about them is physically impossible, as is the concept of a Geass. That's what makes them fun.:tem

Secondly, you are missing my point. I wasn't talking about the physical speed, i was talking about the speed the plot moved along. The pacing. Every half hour was absolutely packed with plot and character development. If it had been paced at about the same rate as say Gundam 00 it would have been at least 150 episodes long. :)

[hunter71485]

Now that's really funny. Like I said, strategy is a staple of mecha anime. Lelouch is a tad more special than other strategists because he is the focus of the show. Sumeragi, Tessa, Ramius, heck even Bright Noa qualifies better if not for their lack of Geass.


Secondly, you are missing my point. I wasn't talking about the physical speed, i was talking about the speed the plot moved along. The pacing. Every half hour was absolutely packed with plot and character development. If it had been paced at about the same rate as say Gundam 00 it would have been at least 150 episodes long.
I LOL'ed when I read this. The majority of posters here (including me) hate the fact that the 2nd season languished at emo-ness for 15 episodes, then trying to condense everything that should've happen in 3 episodes.

[Jammin]

@hunter71485
Not to be rude but.....did you actually watch Code Geass?

Lelouch and Schneizel thought many steps ahead of their opponents. They were inhumanly smart and that was their greatest weapon. Comparing them to someone like Sumeragi or any other gundam strategist is rather insulting to the Code Geass characters. I watch Gundam 00 and enjoy it, but so far the strategy shown is just plain sad. The only anime characters i know of that were strategically even close to the level of Lelouch are from Death Note.

As for season 2 languishing for 15 episodes.....well...i suppose everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Though i'm having a hard time understand yours.

In the first 4 epsodes alone (3 really, considering the first was mainly prologue) Lelouch killed a governor, regained his organization, turned the agent meant to be watching him, and restarted his rebellion. All while keeping his identity secret. It took Gundam 00 season 2 four whole episodes just to gather 4 pilots and a strategist.

[hunter71485]

@hunter71485
Not to be rude but.....did you actually watch Code Geass?
Now that's being rude. Would I post here ages ago if I didn't? :notrust

You don't really get it do you? They set up the table. Which means the battle has been decided for their side until new and unidentified factors come to play. And have you watched the latest episode of Gundam 00? That's true strategy. Too bad the focus are the Gundams and not Sumeragi...

Can you see my point?

[Jammin]

Now that's being rude. Would I post here ages ago if I didn't? Sorry, but in this case i felt the need to ask. If you really think that Code Geass spent 15 episodes languishing in anything...well it's hard for me to imagine someone who watched the whole series thinking that. But i suppose different people do tend to see things differently.:amuse

As for the latest Gundam 00 stuff being true strategy. I couldn't disagree more and i'll just leave it at that.

[hunter71485]

So strategy to you is more about hidden cards, setup tables and chess references than feints and diversions?

I've watched and re-watched Geass more times than you can imagine, and the way I see it it's full of fanservice in the 2nd season.

You need to watch 20 more mecha titles to see my point, in which case, you never will.

[Jammin]

Strategy to me is about accurately predicting your opponents actions and defeating them in the way most likely to bring about your objective and in the most efficient way possible. It's all about hitting your enemy in a place where they are weak and your strong.

Mecha animes often avoid true strategy on purpose because if your enemies outnumber you and are more skilled than you the most strategically sound way to deal with them would be to use a means that would neutralize that advantage. Be it a volcano, an underwater methan plant, a mine field, a flood, a falling building, or simply killing them before they can get in their mechs. Due to those methods being somewhat anti-climactic when compared to mech duel, mecha's tend to avoid them like the plague.

As for watching 20 more mecha i'm afraid their probably aren't 20 mecha that i haven't watched.:p

[paradoxe]

By season 2, battles became rather predictable and pointless. I mean, the first time that strategy was used (last eps of season 1) it was cool, but when you repeat the same damn strat against everyone it becomes boring and stupid.

Besides, the mechs in season 1 were a whole lot cooler and more realistic (not so overpowered I mean there was only Guren and Lancelot and even those weren't so damn powerful remember how the Lancelot nearly got destroyed after being surrounded by the Chinese?)

Anyway yea. Sunrise screwed it up. They didn't give the writers enough time to plan out the entire series properly. 25 eps was seriously not enough.

[Schwindelmagier]

The scriptwriters had to throw away their original idea because Code Geass R2 received a different time slot than expected. They had to change it in a way that everyone, even those who have not watched the first season, may be able to understand it. I guess Rolo was a product of this fact.

[paradoxe]

The scriptwriters had to throw away their original idea because Code Geass R2 received a different time slot than expected. They had to change it in a way that everyone, even those who have not watched the first season, may be able to understand it. I guess Rolo was a product of this fact.

Yeah and that was a real shame since so many issues were left unresolved, like Suzaku's superhuman strength and CC's name.

[Atobe the king]

Suzaku's strength wasn't really an issue..but the constant Jupitor images was something i was always interested in, as well as what makes Suzaku special and causes those reactions to C.C

[Alexis]

Here are some shots of the Kallen and C.C. towels.

http://a.imagehost.org/t/0080/102.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0080/102) http://a.imagehost.org/t/0562/103.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0562/103) http://a.imagehost.org/t/0792/t62zas78y3yuhjdj3104.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0792/t62zas78y3yuhjdj3104)
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0762/108.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0762/108) http://a.imagehost.org/t/0858/109.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0858/109) http://a.imagehost.org/t/0383/111.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0383/111)

[hunter71485]

I think those towels serve a few other uses than wiping yourself...

[Atobe the king]

Now i see why TV tropes says C.C is Pizza Butt

[Alexis]

Postcards from DVD6.

http://f.imagehost.org/t/0432/655756bb.jpg (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0432/655756bb) http://f.imagehost.org/t/0802/7786677b.jpg (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0802/7786677b)

And a screenshot from the menu of the Blu-Ray version.

http://f.imagehost.org/t/0107/up32003.jpg (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0107/up32003)

[0208]

well i have been thinking about it how suzaka able to survive explosions was geass code what he gaing from lelos(dont remember rest to complicated sorry) father when he was in C world. but then again why is it called C world meaby CC is able to give part of geass code??? thous are my gueses hope they make some ova or movie to clear it up, but its just tiny hope in thes dark times ~_~

[hunter71485]

well i have been thinking about it how suzaka able to survive explosions was geass code what he gaing from lelos(dont remember rest to complicated sorry) father when he was in C world. but then again why is it called C world meaby CC is able to give part of geass code??? thous are my gueses hope they make some ova or movie to clear it up, but its just tiny hope in thes dark times ~_~

1) Suzaku survived because his (live on) geass is active.
2) No Suzaku didn't gain anything other than the burden of 0.
3) The world of C is where the collective consciousness of all the people, living and dead, reside.