Kakuzu's death and Fuuton Rasengan

[aznhotbod]

If Kakuzu had another heart, would he still be able to fight? It seemed that Fuuton Rasengan had destroyed his cells (severed cellular nerve connection), and even if he had functioning heart, his body would be useless as it wouldn't respond to any brain messages. Just thought that was ever pointed out. Even Tsunade's regeneration skill to repair cells wouldn't be able to fix the damage if she was on the receiving end right?

[Decorus]

He would not have been able to fight Naruto all but killed him with FRS. Yes FRS damage is beyond Tsunade's ability to repair hence her decision to forbid Naruto from using it again.

[sky_1185]

Well they killed Kakuzu twice before Naruto arrived. Once by Shikamaru and once by Kakashi. I would presume that FRS took out two of his hearts since Kakashi had to finish him off with a Raikiri. So to answer your question, he would not be able to fight.

From what I can understand, Tsunade herself cannot repair cellular damage of that magnitude. From what we can tell, naruto's hand/arm was affected by FRS. Yet he is still able to fight, I think for Naruto it's a little special, I think it ends up being more like a MS and a Four-tail Kyuubi. Where the more he uses it the more it endangers his life and shortens his life span. Obviously she doesn't want him to use it because he would destroy his own arm fighting someone.

[Paradoxicon]

Did Tsunade forbid Naruto tu USE it or did she say he isn't allowed to train it anymore?
And Kakashi didn't really tell Naruto about Tsunade's order, did he?

[aznhotbod]

well, it wasnt a question of how many times Naruto killed Kakuzu. In fact, he only killed 1.9 of Kakuzu's life as he was still alive and conscious. My point was even if he had a viable heart left, would Kakuzu still be able to fight given his cells had been denervated.

As far as Tsunade's order thing, Naruto never really follow orders on things he's adamant about. He knows FRS is his trump card and possibly need it to rescue/help Sasuke. It's likely he won't listen to Tsunade.

[Decorus]

"Naruto about that new Jutsu..."

"Sensei..."
"About my own body I know it best."

Naruto knows and doesn't feel it can do enough harm to him or that Kyuubi can heal the damage eventually.

The Fuuton Rasenshuriken does not do nerve damage it severs the connections of the Chakra tubes to the body destroying thier ability to use chakra ever again.

[ArashiKazamaThe4th]

Did Tsunade forbid Naruto tu USE it or did she say he isn't allowed to train it anymore?
And Kakashi didn't really tell Naruto about Tsunade's order, did he?
i think that tsunade forbidded naruto to use that technique because naruto was in a very bad condition after he used the fuuton rasengan but if there really comes a moment when he needs it he will just use it

[midiman]

I think by doing her calculations Tsunade forget the healing ability of the kyubi.

We know that if naruto goes four tail he loses lifespan because his body gets damadged and healed very often (at the same time by kyubi chakra) and so loses lifespan.

But when naruto fought sasuke at the valley of the end his chest was open and it healed completley that means you could cut his arm off and if he goes 1 tail ther would be a new arm got it ?

So he can use his FRS as much as he wants because the kyubi chakra heals better than tsunade and i can't think of tsunade closing that hole in narutos chest from the fight at the valley of the end.

[segua]

I think if everyone just left and assumed Kakuzu lived, I'm sure Kakuzu would've return one day with the ability to use chakra. It's not like his body ended up like another person's two arms floating in something's stomach.

But clearly, if Kakuzu had lived, I'm sure he couldn't use his chakra efficiently for a good while.

Wasn't it cellular chakra tubes and not nerves?

[_ATMA]

I think by doing her calculations Tsunade forget the healing ability of the kyubi.

We know that if naruto goes four tail he loses lifespan because his body gets damadged and healed very often (at the same time by kyubi chakra) and so loses lifespan.

But when naruto fought sasuke at the valley of the end his chest was open and it healed completley that means you could cut his arm off and if he goes 1 tail ther would be a new arm got it ?

So he can use his FRS as much as he wants because the kyubi chakra heals better than tsunade and i can't think of tsunade closing that hole in narutos chest from the fight at the valley of the end.

yes this is true the fact that it will heal and maybe grow back but by accelerating the rate at which he heals he shortens his life span all cells have a limit to the number of times it can divide after that it dies

[kuroi-san]

he definitely wouldn't have been able to fight. even though he was still alive. cuz he talked to kakashi, and was conscious, but he couldn't get up, or he would have kept fighting for sure.

i think it would be really cool if naruto like, had a mini version of FRS, like a regular sized rasengan with the shuuriken edges. would be bomb. and he could throw it around..! n_~;; *snaps out of fanboy mode*

[aznhotbod]

It is nerve channel.

Tsunade said Every single nerve channel in every single of his cell were severed.. Given our comprehension, it'd be impossible to repair it. Tsunade said herself wouldn't be able to repair it.

[Decorus]

"This guy every one of his chakra tubes connecting to the cells of his body have been severed.

Yeap its chakra tubes...

[aznhotbod]

on my translation, it said nerve channel.

[Decorus]

Honestly did people even read the section where Tsunade discusses the 4 tailed situation with Naruto or did they just skip over it.


yes this is true the fact that it will heal and maybe grow back but by accelerating the rate at which he heals he shortens his life span all cells have a limit to the number of times it can divide after that it diesThis is patently false, you are confusing Tsunade's technique with Naruto's Kyuubi gained accelerated healing. We have no idea how Naruto heals or how effective his healing ability can be. We do however know that going 4 Tailed contrary to what people who didn't actually read it and merely skimmed that section are saying does not shorten his lifespan.
If they had actually read the section or actually understood it, they would have learned its the number of times he goes 4 tailed in succession and with accelerated healing after each time that will lower his lifespan.

If he say went 4 tailed against Jiraiyia and then much later goes 4 tailed against Orochimaru it has no effect on his lifespan. Is it dangerous for his team mates sure, but himself not really. If he say then proceeded to go Four tailed and kill Itachi then go four Tailed again killed Kisame and then went 4 tailed and killed Pein, then yeah he is looking at a shorter lifespan. Its a combination of frequency and time between 4 tailed transformations that will shorten his lifespan. His accelerated healing has no real effect on how long he will live as its a Kyuubi ability he probably could regenerate from having most of his body incinerated and still live to be a 120 year old grandpa.

As for him having a mini FRS he can throw?
Once again pay attention or you wouldn't have missed Fuuton Rasengan that he used as part of a combo to block Kakuzu's elemental attack when he heroicly showed up.

Stop calling people stupid. I'm not saying pander to anyone, just end the slights and have a mindful discussion.

[silvermane]

naruto has another rasengan up his sleeve agreed.... but what does he plan to do against someone like itachi or sasuke who keeps teleporting around?
keep guessing or what?

[lordHokage]

It wouldn’t make any difference if he had 10 hearts or more. Kakuzu was good as dead. :p



"Naruto about that new Jutsu..."

"Sensei..."
"About my own body I know it best."

Naruto knows and doesn't feel it can do enough harm to him or that Kyuubi can heal the damage eventually.

The Fuuton Rasenshuriken does not do nerve damage it severs the connections of the Chakra tubes to the body destroying thier ability to use chakra ever again.

Agreed. Wind Release: Spiraling Shuriken aka Futon: Rasenshuriken is similar to an army of Ants that destroy everything in sight. :blink