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BLANKedOut
September 16, 2007, 10:53 PM
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I made a picture that may amuse some

Well then, back to the observations I go! But first, thanks go to Kylara for the raw and the great people over at MangaShare with their great quality and fast scanslations as always (scan by Blud and Kylara for the MS this week). Thanks to Nihongaeri for the translation in this scan as well. I must also thank all the other translators and scanslators that work hard each week to bring us our Naruto.


1. Pein the body-snatcher
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The text indicates that 'Pain rises', as was postulated last time, he does in fact seemed to be able to switch bodies or possibly just control them all from a different location. I'm inclined to believe that the machine allows him to transfer himself into each body thereby allowing him to gain full advantage of that body's respective powers.

Pein started in the chamber closest to door on the right hand side. When he rises in this chapter the entrance can again be seen, indicating that he is on the right side (from the layout of the first picutre). It is fairly difficult to get his bearing. By approximating the distance from the entrance (unseen) from the first picture to the first chamber in addition to the distance between each subsequent chamber, and then comparing that to the distance between the two chambers, and then finally of that of the last seen chamber to the entrance in the last picture, it can be reasonably extrapolated that Pein is rising from the middle chamber.

On a sidenote: I believe I saw one of the translators explain the markings on the chambers as numbers. The only thing I recognize, I think is 6, on the left side closest to the door. Logically they would either ascend or descend. If they are numbers, the significance varies. At best it gives us all something more to speculate on.


2. Jiraiya's Style
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Jiraiya's statement that interrogation isn't his style strikes me as rather ironic. He has been the iconic source of information throughout the entire series (that might change). From the amount of information he has amassed, he obviously has a knack for gathering it. His system, which can even detect lies with a fairly legitimate method, is bound to be well practiced and quite efficient. Why then, would he tell his captive that interrogation doesn't fit his personality?

A couple scenarios came to mind:

A) He could be using it as a tactic. This seems unlikely for many reasons. Building up tension would be the obvious goal in walking away, but that wouldn't be very practical for someone as accomplished as Jiraiya.

B) He is going to tell the captive this for no substantial reason because he will kill him anyway. This is about as far from logical thinking as one can get, but I thought I would mention it because I'm sure it might come to someone's mind. Even if you view it as: this man will die anyway, so anything Jiraiya says to him can be considered unimportant - it still rings hollow.

Why, you ask, would I present you with two worthless theories? Now that I have wasted about six seconds of your life I shall give you the answer: but of course, it's three-fold. One, C, which happens be my actual stipulation, looks quite good by comparison. Two, many illogical theories are the ones people jump to when they dismiss something as an insignificant, and therefor casual statement. This way, people are less inclined to just see it as just a casual statement. Three, now that I just wasted another few seconds (and I really hate to use these in reviews...but, "lol"), you might find C to be a bit more interesting.

C) It could be construed as a genuine reflection of Jiraiya's character. If this is the case then it seems disconcerting at first. Jiraiya, the most prevalent information gathering Ninja in the series (at least for important Konoha issues, unlike Kabuto's ghetto cards), must have interrogated more people than even Ibiki, especially considering his age. It would seem that Jiraiya's style is more akin to the silent observer (seen to be his favorite method for Icha Icha research).

Whatever the verdict, the comment itself is just very out of place coming from Jiraiya, the infamous information-hub protagonist.


Part 2: All That Other Stuff
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Jiraiya's Legacy: Toadem Pole

As most people have been speculating, It seems Jiraiya might die in the near future. The foreshadowing is fairly apparent. By signing away this storage scroll away to Naruto he basically validates the hypothetical of his death. There is no doubt in my mind that he will die shorty. If not to Pein then defiantly to Madara. Tsunade's fate is looking fairly grim too. Most of the older generations must die eventually (at least the important or strong ones), but I'll save that speculation for a later chapter.

Minato's Super duper seal!

It's always been known that Minato did more than a basic seal. Just how much he was able to prepare and get done before his death has just recently been fully revealed. It's astonishing that he was able to provide a key in addition to make two seals (more on the sealing later). This preparation and foresight does give a very pragmatic reason as to why during the kybuii attack the fellow Ninjas had to wait for the yellow flash, arguably the fastest ninja in existence at the time.


The Key

Frogs like to argue. I do love the fact that Jiraiya treats them as equals, going so far as to justify his claims to them. I wonder to what extent this key can be used? From the manner in which they speak of it, resealing doesn't really seem to be a reusable feature. But unlocking (to some extent) must be considering that Jiraiya already tried releasing the seal a bit. I imagine this loosening resulted in Naruto's emotional rage being enough to release the four tailed form. If the key can be continuously used, one would think it would have been used already since people keep mentioning Naruto's seal is weakening. Not using it until it is necessary indicates that it has some malignant effects.


"That Jutsu" Again..

We've had a few of these; two now with Naruto, and one with Sasuke (still yet to be revealed). Considering the context, this defiantly doesn't relate to Naruto's other "that jutsu". From what is being implied, the jutsu in question this time involves full control over the Kyuubi. Possibly it is releasing a controlled form of the Kyuubi or using the Kyuubi's power for some absurd technique. I'm going to end my speculation on this matter here for now.


The Seal


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I had two theories when I first read the spoilers. Here is the one that (unless there prove to be discrepancies or further clarifications in the translations, which I doubt) doesn't seem to fit anymore. I want to gauge peoples' thoughts on it though.When reading in the spoilers that both the ying and the yang from the Kyuubi were separated and then stored in Naruto, at that time it seemed to me that the supplementary reason for the eight part seal was one four part seal for the light and one four part for the dark (aka or ying and yang). By this logical, Minato would have used the Deathgod to permanently store the Yin inside Naruto making that chakra inaccessible (except for the key). This would make sense, if the key was used to try and let out the ying chakra and the result was the overwhelmed Naruto. And, the yang chakra that was given to Naruto through the accesable flow seal would have been all of his normal Kyuubi chakra. Basically, this theory encompassed the idea that all of the Kyuubi's chakra was in naruto.

Edit / Notice: I sought some help trying to clarify the Japanese text pertaining to the act of sealing. I don’t understand the Japanese so I didn’t know the leniency of the English text. Lots of thanks go to Nihongaeri who graciously provided me with a clear clarification and greater understanding of the lines in question. I was correct in assuming that there weren’t really any discrepancies (wishful thinking on my part for the theory above to fit better).

After understanding the text more comprehensibly I now stand by the splitting of the chakra theory (below) completely (or at least more so than the other one).

After reading all the translations I could get my hands on, I have decided that my other theory fits better.

Minato seperated the Kyuubi's chakra into Ying and Yang.

He used Shiki Fuujin [the deathgod sealing technique] to store the Ying chakra inside his own body, thereby condemning that and him to eternal something rather..(an endless battle with chakra? That deathgod's belly is very Hokage rich) the important part here is that the Ying chakra is out of the picture.

He then used Hakke no Fuuin Shiki [the Eight seal technique] to store the Yang chakra into Naruto. He did this by making two Shishou Fuuin [the four seal technique]. Working together they somehow allow a portion of the Kyuubi's chakra to flow into Naruto.

~Things that stand out~

The seal that they tried to unlock using the key was one of the Shishou Fuuin, but which one? The one that regulates flow control or the more permanent seal (I'm just assuming that they both have these respective functions for this observation, but I place no steak to actually labeling the seals to have these individual abilities. At this point speculation is the best I have.)?

1/2 the Chakra? The Kyuubi inside Naruto, who apparently retains his whole personality only exists from half his chakra? It's not even half, its an opposing side. Yang or light, it seems odd that the Kyuubi exists so completly with a portion of his being (which is one of the reasons I had my first theory in addition to this one).



Madara vs. Shodai


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Another nice theory to have confirmed, it's true that the statue is Madara. It also reaffirms what Kakashi said about Sasuke and Naruto fight being similiar to the other fight at the Valley at the End. Here is my issue with this, Madara is supposed to be some all-powerful Ninja (I would conceivably place him as the strongest Ninja in the series at the moment) and he was, according to Jiraiya, the only person ever cable of summoning the Kyuubi, so why did Shodai beat him?

When Shodai was resurrected he was defiantly the stronger of the first two Hokages. But the 3rd held his ground fine when he wasn't completely serious (at first). Granted, Shodai's fighting ability might have been reduced to Orochimaru's ability to control him, but to battle Madara, someone of a higher level should have been needed. Wait, despite what I have just said, this is not what I believe, simply put. One of the key elements missing from when we saw Shodai fight was his willpower. Throughout the series it has been a very prevalent theme - tenacious bastards are the ones that often thrive.

Shodai must have been victorious to the presumably all-powerfull Madara because of his specific skill set (which works perfectly with what I said before about him not necessarily seeming strong enough when compared with the 3rd). So here is how I think the battle had to have occured:

At some point, Madara summons the Kyuubi

Shodai turns the tables by altering the Kyuubi somehow (turning against, dissipating, controlling, etc.)

Madara gets badly hurt and loses

Later he makes steps to prolong his life/health

This is one of the few ways I can envision Shodai being able to beat Madara. Consequently, I have an interesting view on the origin of the Sharingan that is based mainly off actual context as opposed to mythology (e.g. tengu's - which has ..some..good points). I think I might cover that in my next review.

Generational Gap

The frog finds the idea that Madara could have been alive 15-16 years ago ridiculous since he was a founder of Konoha. From a purely generational standpoint, this is possible but highly unlikely (within the limits of a natural lifestyle, probably estimated around 85). Madara was 1st generation and the Kyuubi event happened around the time when the 4th generation was being born. The amount of young births for this to have happened would, again, be unlikely. Then again, this is not even that relevant considering, the ability to prolong ones life in the Ninja world is completely achievable. Obviously that frog hasn't seen as much as Jiraiya.

And then...

Oh yea...does this look familiar to anyone else =P


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biotech_vertigo
September 17, 2007, 12:24 AM
Nice review man.
Interesting stuff. I don't have time to really pour over it now, but if i have something interesting to add i'll add another post later.

Karma
September 17, 2007, 01:26 AM
I liked it alot... Props...

I only have a problem with the 4th splitting the kyubie in two parts and sealing the dark part away.

How can the kyubie be alive in Naruto when its splitted in half? meaning how it survive? Kishi needed to explain more on this part.

The that Jutsu that needed naruto to complete. Is it involves the other half that is fused in the Death God?

:Can the "that Jutsu" be away that the kyubie charka flow simultaneously with is blue chakra. and with that kind of power. He'll be open up to a Varity of new elements & unfounded abilities.. E.g Fusing natures..

It's Obvious that Naruto will be super fast if he's able to control the Kyubie Chakra.. When he's in the Kyubie mode after the time skip. He even impress Kakashi with is speed "saying he can't keep up with naruto" meaning if it goes on for too long he'll have to stop base on is chakra & stamina.


But if Naruto is going to be faster than is dad. How we going to monitor him? lol i better get put my play on slow motion. lol

Helltroll
September 17, 2007, 09:42 AM
Another great review Blank! You always have nice thoughts and ideas...keep up the work :)

Gamemaster83
September 17, 2007, 09:57 AM
I'm a newbie, but I had to register just to say bravo at this review! I think you raised some very valid points, and your presentation was exceptional. I'll be back later to add a few points of my own, but for now, great job!

akatsuki27
September 17, 2007, 11:03 AM
"Toad" em pole....lol good stuff man....nice review blank, i couldnt do it any better myself

-- that is to say i CANT do it, anyway...good stuff, toadem pole, lol

hitokugutsu
September 17, 2007, 01:46 PM
Very nice review. I hope you keep doing these in the future.
As for the ying yang chakra sealing I dont believe that the Death God has the ying. Otherwise Naruto wont be able to go fully Kyubi if it only has 1/2 of his chakra. And if the Death God has the ying I dont see a possible way of returning that part to the Kyubi (wich at some point of the story has to happen) I like to believe that he splitted the chakra but that Naruto has the yang and that he sealed the ying wth the Kyubi (Your first theory)

lordHokage
September 18, 2007, 07:44 AM
Nice review. Well said. Keep it up. :)

As for Minato separating Kyuubi’s chakra, I completely agree. In order for Naruto to complete that jutsu, he may have to defeat the Death god. :blink

BLANKedOut
September 18, 2007, 06:19 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone =). I am always interested to hear everyone's opinion.

@ biotech_vertigo: Thanks again ^_^. And I look forward to any comments you might have in the future. Oh yea, I like your name, it’s amusing.

@ Karma: Yea, I liked my first theory better, because there are discrepancies (*looks around suspiciously* ‘don’t tell anyone’) with the second one. That is the reason I included the first theory in the review. The second theory is just what I could think up considering the translations. The Deathgod being used to permanently seal the Yin in Naruto (making both sides present) would make sense and can still be acceptable If one reads into the translations a bit. I don’t know the leniency of the translated text though since I don’t understand the original Japanese (translators help!? lol).

@ Helltroll: Thanks! =P. Gratitude replies are always so nice. They make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, hehe.

@ Gamemaster83: That means a lot ;). I’m not quite new (I know everyone but they don’t know me…I’m a board stalker =P lol); I haven’t been posting long, just reading. But, allow me to welcome you. I look forward to your points.

@ akatsuki27: I hoped someone would find that amusing =) lol. Thanks for the support.

@ hitokugutsu: I’m glad to see that more people like my first theory (my personal favorite between the two). I also agree with you that at some point the Kyuubi will rise again and face Naruto (that might be difficult with half his chakra). Then again it could be an internal battle, but that wouldn’t be any fun.

@ Lord Hokage: Thanks. It’s still hard to say where I stand on my two theories. I want to believe the first one, but the context seems to support the second one. If the ladder is true, then Naruto facing the Deathgod is a very interesting possibility. I hadn’t even considered that. It would be fitting in many ways, although, how you would fight such a thing, save for pure tenacity, is beyond me. Oh, and thanks for your reply last week too. Jiraiya is awesome. Let’s cross our fingers (a futile attempt probably) and hope he doesn’t

lordHokage
September 18, 2007, 07:44 PM
@ Lord Hokage: Thanks. It’s still hard to say where I stand on my two theories. I want to believe the first one, but the context seems to support the second one. If the ladder is true, then Naruto facing the Deathgod is a very interesting possibility. I hadn’t even considered that. It would be fitting in many ways, although, how you would fight such a thing, save for pure tenacity, is beyond me. Oh, and thanks for your reply last week too. Jiraiya is awesome. Let’s cross our fingers (a futile attempt probably) and hope he doesn’t

You’re welcome. :)

I fully endorse your second theory. Both Shiki Fujin aka Corpse Spirit Sealing Method and Pervy Sage Giant Scroll have one thing in common, Whirlpool Country spiral. Whatever Yondy’s goal was the Death god and Kyuubi had a role to play in the development of that jutsu. Naruto facing the Death god is his destiny. :blink

Pervy Sage is going to be alright. :eyeroll

Gold Knight
September 18, 2007, 08:32 PM
A very thoughtful analysis of the chapter. Very nice work. And very funny graphics, too!

I got the impression that Jiraiya did indeed want to make his prisoner "sweat." Gotta be kind of disorienting being "locked up" with a toad that was formerly your companion sitting at your foot. Wondering what he might do when he comes back - but knowing Jiraiya, I can't imagine him as being a killer. But I also can't imagine him just freeing his captives to let them report to their superiors, either. If I was Jiraiya, I'd go to them and tell them that frankly, they're doomed to be stuck in the stomach of that toad if he doesn't come back from his battle with Pein or the Akatsuki - so they'd better tell him everything they know if they want to live, huhn? We'll see next chapter, I guess.

The foreshadowing about Jiraiya's death certainly went up in this chapter, and it's driving me batty.

Good observations about Minato's meticulous attention to detail concerning Naruto's seal, as well as Jiraiya's apparent rapport with his toads. Though, the latter didn't surprise me - as Gamabunta will confirm, the toads don't have to help you if they don't like you. It's better this way.

Good statement on your theory about how exactly Minato sealed the Kyuubi - it does make sense. Half of the Kyuubi through himself, half of it through Naruto. I agree that it is odd that the Kyuubi seems so complete within Naruto, but it's also mind-staggering to imagine just how powerful it could be if it ever regains its full power - and I'm sure that's exactly why Jiraiya feels the key is so important to Naruto. If Naruto can SOMEDAY control the Kyuubi - and it's indeed already frighteningly strong as it is - just imagine what he could do with its full powers. It would probably be enough to save the world, if it's ever needed, wouldn't it?

MadDog
September 18, 2007, 09:09 PM
Nice work Blank. Really well written, humorous and worth reading.

I agree with you on option C in regards to Jiraiya's information gathering. He most likely could have pushed for more, but he may have sensed that beard guy was going to give up much else. Personally, I don't think that his character has the 'stomach' for torture (or to do what Ibiki does). Good call though. It does seem odd that a guy who gathers information like he does, prefers not to collect if from direct sources. I guess he relies more on peepin' and informants.

Definetely keep at it.

BLANKedOut
September 19, 2007, 01:37 AM
@ Gold Knight:

Thanks GK. Writing reviews are quite a bit of work. It has given me a new appreciation for past and present regular reviewers. How did you ever come up with 10 comments a week O_o? I thought you had gone a bit cynical on us from the first quarter of your volume review (not to detract from the logical behind your view of course) but your response to my response (hurray for repetition) alleviated that fear.

Dropping a well placed, non-cheesy Star Wars quote too, that makes you ok in my book.

Now to your comments on my comments:
Having the prisoner bound in a frog would have defiantly done the job of making him sweat; I think that was the extent of the pressure. I doubt we will see more of the captive. If I’m wrong though, your suggestion would be a practical line of intimidation.

My first thought was also that Jiraiya isn’t really a killer. Surely he would devise a clever way to allow the pitiful enemy to live and not tell. Then again, I came back to the idea that he is a Shinobi, and what Haku says does ring true: showing mercy to your enemies only hurts your allies, it is not companion, it’s weakness (to hardcore Haku fans, forgive me if I butchered his quote by paraphrasing). However, I doubt Jiraiya would ever waste his time killing the pitiful ninja, he probably will abandon him to go fight Pein.

Jiraiya also turned some guy into a toad, doesn’t that make him a witch O_O?!

Controlling the Kyuubi would make him arguably the most powerful (chakra wise) Ninja to ever live; enough power to save the world indeed. Naruto is the one character that exhibits a tendency to exhibit power over skill occasionally (curse the one DBZ similarity which I hate). If he gained control of it one day, I would hope he would apply it to some amazing Jutsus (e.g. his Rasen Shuriken) as opposed to using it as brute power (e.g. stuff can’t hurt me and I have extendable chakra arms, yay).

@ MadDog: Hi hi! =D. The chapter left many chance to make attempts at humor. I’m glad some of my attempts were successful =). My personal favorite has to be my comment on the giant scroll protruding from his mouth, better out that way than the other. I laughed at that for a while (I am easily amused, even at myself lol).

Jiraiya is an old softy at times. I fear he will die. Actually, I fear that almost the entire cast of important elders will die, with the exception of Kakashi, which may seem out of place but I have my reasons (despite that, he will still probably die). Who knows at this point though, all one can do is generalize through foreshadowing and generic plot models. On a more relevant note, Jiraiya does love his peepin’ <(^_^<)

Minato's Disciple
September 20, 2007, 09:10 PM
I like it...

I love it when someone looks at it in a differently nice way.
You have well explained the implications of jiraya's explanation of yondi's sealing techniques used. Hope you got more u on your sleeves on the succeeding chapters as i find it more interesting.

I just have one comment on madara vs shodai

if madara was able to summon (or at least control) kyuubi, definitely shodai has a way to neutralize its chakra. as what yamato did with naruto. he may have planted a chakra formula (like how yondi did with his hirashin no jutsu) into either madara or kyuubi while in battle. Thus making a turnaround and defeated madara but sparing his life for the sake of friendship. but madara eventually turning away. (like oro and sasuke)

Gamemaster83
September 22, 2007, 07:08 AM
Actually I waited so long that I forgot the points I was going to make LOL! And plus since I've read the newest chapter my ideas will be shaped by new knowledge, but that just means I can't wait for your review of this latest chapter!

I always wanted a place to thoroughly discuss the Naruto manga, but there are 40 million different places to do that and I never knew where to start. I'm a bit of a Naruto fanatic so I do have google alerts for Naruto and this site just happened to pop up, with this exact review no less. :tem

BLANKedOut
September 23, 2007, 02:07 AM
@ Minato's Disciple: Tricks up my sleeves? Eh, I have no magic but I count cards, does that count ^_^? As for your Madara vs. Shodai comment, I could defiantly see the fight being expressed as another reluctant (although this is often one sided) friend vs friend battle. This is actually quite a common battle (3rd vs Oro, Naruto vs Sasuke, Jiraiya vs Oro [unseen for the most part]). I'm anticipating more background on this fight in the near future.

@ Gamemaster83: Naruto Fanatic ! HurraY! I tend to refer to myself as a Naruto Guru because of my obsessive nature towards the series and often encyclopedic knowledge of it (which is not a very good thing, heh, I've spent waaaay to much time on Naruto stuff). Google alerts eh? Nice. Yea feel free to use the replies off any of my reviews to discuss relevant or even semi-(oh hell, even completely)tangential Naruto stuff.

My new chapter review will come =). But, I just moved into my Dorm, and I am super busy having the conceivably most amazing time ever. Ergo, it probably wont come 'till tomorrow or so, and it will be a 'Lite' version, but I promise not to disappoint.

On a side note: did anyone notice my use of the brackets '[]' inside my parenthesis '()' up there? How cool was that ^_^. Those grammatical marvels are often my tendency to inject my personality into the reviews or just random facts =P.

Gamemaster83
September 24, 2007, 10:59 AM
@ Minato's Disciple: Tricks up my sleeves? Eh, I have no magic but I count cards, does that count ^_^? As for your Madara vs. Shodai comment, I could defiantly see the fight being expressed as another reluctant (although this is often one sided) friend vs friend battle. This is actually quite a common battle (3rd vs Oro, Naruto vs Sasuke, Jiraiya vs Oro [unseen for the most part]). I'm anticipating more background on this fight in the near future.

@ Gamemaster83: Naruto Fanatic ! HurraY! I tend to refer to myself as a Naruto Guru because of my obsessive nature towards the series and often encyclopedic knowledge of it (which is not a very good thing, heh, I've spent waaaay to much time on Naruto stuff). Google alerts eh? Nice. Yea feel free to use the replies off any of my reviews to discuss relevant or even semi-(oh hell, even completely)tangential Naruto stuff.

My new chapter review will come =). But, I just moved into my Dorm, and I am super busy having the conceivably most amazing time ever. Ergo, it probably wont come 'till tomorrow or so, and it will be a 'Lite' version, but I promise not to disappoint.

On a side note: did anyone notice my use of the brackets '[]' inside my parenthesis '()' up there? How cool was that ^_^. Those grammatical marvels are often my tendency to inject my personality into the reviews or just random facts =P.

You just moved into a dorm, cool, what's your major? I love your vocabulary, you even managed to teach me a new word (tangential) which is a wondrous feat in and of itself, as I'm quite the perspicacious one. :tem

I'm far too engrossed in Naruto and I would even go so far as to say I'm an unmitigated fanatic. I don't know about encyclopedic knowledge but I'm pretty cognizant.

So until your next review my existence will consist only of a propetually eager state of anticipation. :kkkawarim

Gold Knight
September 27, 2007, 01:44 AM
@ Gold Knight:

Thanks GK. Writing reviews are quite a bit of work. It has given me a new appreciation for past and present regular reviewers. How did you ever come up with 10 comments a week O_o? I thought you had gone a bit cynical on us from the first quarter of your volume review (not to detract from the logical behind your view of course) but your response to my response (hurray for repetition) alleviated that fear.

Dropping a well placed, non-cheesy Star Wars quote too, that makes you ok in my book.

Ha. I've said in the past that I felt Kishimoto must have been a big Star Wars fan, because I keep being reminded of it in my reviews of Naruto, heh.

I never had any problems finding 10 Comments on a weekly basis for Naruto, the problem is keeping my review the same length (some chapters tend to be action-packed, or concentrate on art more than words, which doesn't give you as much to comment on), and of course, finding the time, which has really been my bane lately.

Bleach, however... I tackled it for a while, but ended up not being able to come up with 10 for it one week and stopped. One Piece gives you almost TOO much material to be able to easily squeeze into 10 comments (too bad I'm not crazy about it).

And part of the reason why I might be so open in being cynical about some things in Naruto is 'cause of the people who respond to my reviews - they do and will usually influence my own opinion, if they manage to explain sufficiently why they disagree with my criticisms, and I don't mind my mind or feelings being changed on Naruto. I want to like it, after all, I've invested a lot of time in reading it. Sometimes, my own reviews are a kind of self-therapy for myself :D



Now to your comments on my comments:
Having the prisoner bound in a frog would have defiantly done the job of making him sweat; I think that was the extent of the pressure. I doubt we will see more of the captive. If I’m wrong though, your suggestion would be a practical line of intimidation.

My first thought was also that Jiraiya isn’t really a killer. Surely he would devise a clever way to allow the pitiful enemy to live and not tell. Then again, I came back to the idea that he is a Shinobi, and what Haku says does ring true: showing mercy to your enemies only hurts your allies, it is not companion, it’s weakness (to hardcore Haku fans, forgive me if I butchered his quote by paraphrasing). However, I doubt Jiraiya would ever waste his time killing the pitiful ninja, he probably will abandon him to go fight Pein.

Jiraiya also turned some guy into a toad, doesn’t that make him a witch O_O?!

Well, as we found out, he did indeed send the trapped shinobi to Ibiki. I actually commented that he should have brought Ibiki with him in my review, and lo and behold. I definitely liked that.

No, he's the Toad Sage :D And anyway, if he dabbles in the "black arts" like a witch, he'd be a warlock - the male equivalent of a witch XD So, the Toad Warlock. Ho.



Controlling the Kyuubi would make him arguably the most powerful (chakra wise) Ninja to ever live; enough power to save the world indeed. Naruto is the one character that exhibits a tendency to exhibit power over skill occasionally (curse the one DBZ similarity which I hate). If he gained control of it one day, I would hope he would apply it to some amazing Jutsus (e.g. his Rasen Shuriken) as opposed to using it as brute power (e.g. stuff can’t hurt me and I have extendable chakra arms, yay).

Well, I do kinda like that he has difficulties controlling all that power right now, at least. More challenges in order to overcome and all that. And it makes him stay grounded, and human.

But I do hope he will control it to some extent. I think we'll probably see him controlling a larger aspect of his "Kyuubi essence" when he faces Sasuke again.

BLANKedOut
September 27, 2007, 03:53 PM
@ Gamemaster83:

Ah, a fellow lover of words? Thank you, I do enjoy picking up random words, as a result, my vocabulary can be useful at scrabble. I love new words *eyes widen* too. While presenting my beliefs and observations I tend to leave most of my vocabulary at home; it isn’t very conducive to getting a logical argument across (at times or at least outside the realm of academia). Who wants to read a thesis paper? It’s all about slicing down the core of what we all know and love, in this case Naruto.

As for the encyclopedic knowledge, that was a rather obscure reference on my point. The phrase in itself doesn’t even refer to understanding or background knowledge (which I usually pride myself on), but rather, knowing what happened when and where. My friend and I used to play a Naruto game. He would name something from the series and I would have around three guesses to name the chapter number from memory. I’m going to regret letting that fact slip, heh.

College has kept me extremely busy, more socially than academically though. When I say I have zero time, it is a bit misleading. Zero free time means that I am always out doing something a bit more sociable and proactive with people than being in my dorm around my computer for whatever reason. My major is Computer Science based. I intend to enter the gaming industry, which I know and love (and occasionally hate).

I look forward to your next replies. Check out my new review, it’s a Lite version, meaning I had no time to present it in entirety, but there are a few observations which might be interesting.

@GK:

The reasons I love and not just like particular series are tied to very specific attributes. Star wars, for me, was not so much interconnectivity or continuity, but rather, the epic and fantastic world that the series created and the parable that was told. This aside, I recognize similarities between the series I love because they fit into specific categories, hence sometimes they tend to be almost too similar in various aspects for coincidences. Then again I am speaking generically. It would be awesome if Kishi was a Star Wars fan and I don’t see that as improbable.

The length does tend to be more laborious to maintain than the amount of comments.

As for the wanting to like it, I completely understand. I sometimes let my extreme interest in particular series and faith in their creators overweight what appears to be obvious discrepancies. I have been one to (on rare occasion) argue for something that I didn’t fully believe in. I would, of course, find an argument to support my unwavering faith, but it wouldn’t be my first perception (I am keeping this rare tendency out of my reviews). I’m also quite accepting too; I enjoy people’s opinions to get a broader perspective. And, I am not one to dismiss theories. I do present my own beliefs on their viability (except the tobi = obito one, that’s the one I will never agree on or even speak to in a dignified manner, much like the old AL = 4th).

Oh, Ibiki, you’re such a useful character for filling that special place in the plot. Yea, I too was glad to see his use again.

Toad Warlock – I like! A lot! That brief transition you gave from Toad Sage to Witch to Warlock is quote worthy.

Struggling to control the kyuubi will always keep Naruto as an underdog of sorts. When he no longer needs to struggle excessively to control the full burden of the kyuubi it would be safe to assume to series may be at an end soon. Naruto is a hero with a very anti-heroish quality (even though sasuke is the anti-hero). When he becomes the most powerful he loses his role and embodies one more akin to Minato. So, yes, I defiantly like that he still has to struggle with the kyuubi too.

wiseone
January 19, 2008, 12:30 AM
hey yeah uh... crap registration took so long.... ok lets see... one u cant kill a death god... i think hes already dead... 2 when u seal someone away with that technique... remember orochimaru? his arms got sealed only remember... well thats the best solution u could have on that splitting chakra thing... now i like all the points you had as for the chamber... Pein has the Rinnegan... sry to those who dont know... let me c... damn u dont have it up there... well it looks awesome.... it has the normal eye witha few rings around it... that eye is the strongest doujutsu there is and that allows Pein to transfer to others that have that same eye set... there are six of em... so yeah they can all walk at once but pein will actually control the minds... but the real person is still in there.... if i can remember some stuff ill tell u...

sky_soobax
January 22, 2008, 08:03 PM
great review