Does Sasuke know Kage Bunshin no Jutsu?

[Eyefarted2]

does sauske know kage bunshin no jutsu? it would be strange if he didnt. i mean he can summon, has a HUGE variety of snake jutsu, chidori, like practically all of orochimaru's powers. it would be strange that oro didnt teach kage bunshin, or he didnt know it. but i guess that if sauske knew kage bunshin, that would make naruto's only practical justsu useless.

[Karma]

even if sasuke know Kage Bunshin that don't say he can beat someone that has the stamina & chakra to use it to the full potential. Think of it like this, every Jounin should be able to use Kage bunshin. its just that it hold alot of risk to the user body.

Not because sasuke can uses Kage Bunshin he could not beat someone like Naruto that can uses it to the full potential..

[lagif]

I guess he knows. He saw Naruto doing it plenty of times, so no problem for Sasuke to copy tech wih Sharingan.

He just don't practice it 'cause he has lots of other impressive technics to use, while Naruto doesn't like to learn new ones.

[Karma]

I guess he knows. He saw Naruto doing it plenty of times, so no problem for Sasuke to copy tech wih Sharingan.

He just don't practice it 'cause he has lots of other impressive technics to use, while Naruto doesn't like to learn new ones.

well, yes.. because knowing 1000 jutsu. doesn't give you the time to make one jutsu to perfection.

naruto uses 3-5 jutsu and he polish them, he's like a prefectionist. Jiraiya is the same.

Sasuke could do Kage bunshin. but he can't use it to its full potential. Just like Kakashi. he can also uses KB. and yet he doesn't use it that much. why? because he doesn't have the stamina & enough chakra to use it as much as Naruto.

[ShadowStrike]

I don't think Sasuke is like Itachi and Kakashi. He doesn't seem to be able to be copying jutsu-for-jutsu.

[lagif]

I think, Sasuke can copy any jutsu and fighting style if he wish. And then it doesn't take much time for him to make it perfect (like using Lee's techs).



Sasuke could do Kage bunshin. but he can't use it to its full potential. Just like Kakashi. he can also uses KB. and yet he doesn't use it that much. why? because he doesn't have the stamina & enough chakra to use it as much as Naruto.

Who said he doesn't have enough chakra? I think it's not the main reason for not using KageBunshin. There're also plenty nins with enough stamina and chakra, who doesn't use it, but use their own methods. In many ways it's uneffective jutsu against strong enemy, for KageBunshin can be destroyed in one blow (one blow of Sasuke's fire jutsu, for example :D ).

[Black/Light]

We don't know if Sas knows it or not. He has yet to use it so Im not going to assume that he knows anything if he aint used it yet.

And even if he does know it he wouldn't be able to over-shadow naruto's use of it because naruto has way more chakra.

According to Kak kb is only suppose to be a devertion jutsu or a information gathering jutsu so normal Ninja only use it rarely and in very small numbers because it takes alot of chakra. It's a pretty big roll of the dice to put soo much chakra into something that, even if it can attack, can be busted up in one strike so it's not a smart choice for using as a weapon. . . .unless your naruto aka clone maker of the 10th power.

[KyleUchiha]

I think he can, but I don't think he likes using it. Maybe just given the way he attacks and fights, he doesn't think he works that well with his style of fighting.

[Decorus]

Why do people keep saying that sharingan allow someone to copy a techinique. Have you ever seen a single instance in the Manga where a Sharingan user has immediately copied a technique and used it against someone?

We have seen Sasuke copy Lee's Taijutsu style, but then again we have also seen Naruto copy it as well and Naruto does not have sharingan.

The one time we see the supposed dreaded Kakashi copying a technique it turned out Kakashi was using a low level genjutsu to have Zabuza do a move that Kakashi already knew.

Yet people keep going on and on about the uber sharingan ability to copy techniques which was proven to be false, just hype created about the Uchiha clan to give them a terrifying reputation.

[lagif]

... Kakashi had copied Zabuza's water jutsus very effectively indeed.
I believe, in fact, there's not enough to copy moves and seals - Sharingan can see the jutsu more deeply and remember it fluently. Otherwise Sasuke wouldn't be able to use Lee's taijutsu style or to free himself from Orochimaru's world.

Later he said to Deidara, that his Sharingan can see through all his techniques and even see his chakra itself (in the mines). For me, it is obvious Sasuke can copy any justsu if his chakra type (lightning and fire) and amount allows him to master it.

[Decorus]

So show me the proof citing chapters and page numbers where Kakashi copied anything.

[lagif]

Great. 2 Decorus:
Chapter 15, p. 7-9 and so on... Almost all the chapter is abt. Kakashi copying Zabuza.

[Decorus]

Lets go over this again for the upteenth millionth time, because its clearly explained by Zabuza exactly what Kakashi did in the Manga.

First with your keen eye you copy my movements and shake my mind.

Once I am confused you are able to figure out what I'll say and can become me and then...

Once my worry and confusion reaches its peak, you attack with a clever trick. Through Hypnotic Genjutsu you suggest what seal I should perform and then you copy that.

The copy ninja does not copy his opponent's jutsu he uses jutsu he already knows and uses genjutsu to force his opponent to use the same jutsu.

The Copy Ninja Kakashi does not use sharingan to copy jutsu its a myth created to strike fear in his opponents nothing more. Pure Hype... Yes Kakashi has learned over 1000 jutsu, and has only created a single jutsu of his own, but he did not as people think copy other ninjas to learn the techniques.

He gives the appearance that he copies thier techniques using genjutsu. Hence you have never seen him suddenly learn a new jutsu and employ it in battle.

[Karma]

Who said he doesn't have enough chakra? I think it's not the main reason for not using KageBunshin. There're also plenty nins with enough stamina and chakra, who doesn't use it, but use their own methods. In many ways it's uneffective jutsu against strong enemy, for KageBunshin can be destroyed in one blow (one blow of Sasuke's fire jutsu, for example :D ).

No one say sasuke can't use Kage bunshin if he knows it. because it stated that Sasuke has twice the amount of chakra Kakashi had and Kakashi can make it. But Naruto has 3 times the amount and the stamina to back it up.

Sasuke doesn't has the Stamina & the mass of chakra naruto has so he could never use it has naruto.
Remember naruto can waste clones on sasuke until he's tired and still have the enough strength to battle again...

he proves it during neji battle, then he went to beat Garra that sasuke could never beat. So you need to realize who is stronger here.. Chakra mean power. Naruto is way more powerful than sasuke.

1. Naruto normal Chakra is at least 2 times sasuke.
2. Kyubi has unlimited Chakra from what we understand..
3. Having alot of chakra open alot of powerful jutsu to the user.

Sorry to go off topic. But i just want you guys to know.

Not because Kakashi can use KB, he can use it to its full potential.

[lagif]

Decorus, it's your own opinion that ninja only uses justu he already knows.
And anyway, Kakashi wouldn't have known so much jutsus if he couldn't copy them (IMO).

The process you explained couldn't be performed without Sharingan. So we come to the same conclusion.

Nobody in manga denied the fact, that you can copy jutsu with Sharingan. The "keen eye" you told about is Sharingan. Or is it coincidence, that Sasuke has the same ability to remember jutsus with same "keen eye"?
I can agree that in copying process some genjutsu ivolved, for to remember jutsu you must see more than just moves and seals.

[Decorus]

Actually there is a large list of people who know 1000 jutsu and none of them are Uchiha. All the Hokage are expected to know 1000 or more jutsu. Orochimaru who was questing to learn every single jutsu must have learned at least that many. In most cases learning a jutsu is just a matter of learning the seals. Which sharingan can help with. The sharingan do not allow you to see chakra flow, they do allow you to see chakra, but actually seeing the chakra circulatory system is a byakugan only ability.

Sharingan do not let you learn every single jutsu you see and never has. Kakashi simply learned a massive number of jutsu and has trained to obtain multiple elemental affinities as well. Its not the sharingan that gave him this as matter of fact its highly likely a vast majority of his jutsu were learned before he even had obtained his single sharingan.

Sharingan do not have the ability to copy jutsu, but they certainly can make it look like they do.

Honestly its unlikely that Sasuke would use Kage Bunshin anyway as it does not fit his fighting style, just like Kakashi prefers to use Water clones.

[jiro]

Kage Bunshin No Jutsu - the user's chakra is evenly distributed among every clone, giving each clone an equal fraction of the user's overall power.
this is a dangerous technique as it can quickly use up all the users chakra.
0 chakra = dead user.

Sasuke's (and any other users) 5 clones
100% = 20% (original) + 20% (clone) + 20% (clone) + 20% (clone) + 20%(clone)

Thats how strong the kage bunshin for Sasuke.

During the Zabuza's fight - kakashi created multi-useless-clones just to scare off the enemies.

Naruto's kagebunshin
1000 clones
100% = 100% + 100% + 100% + 100% nth clones

thanx to his unlimited kyubii chakra.

quote from naruto - "Crap... The me over there can sure do it "

[lagif]

Oh, right, Decorus :) You may think what you want. :) I have no wish to prove the obvious things, no offence.

[jiro]

bunshin no jutsu is the basic skill needed to graduate from school. Naruto hated it, it was his worst skill. everyone knows how to use it guess.

kage bunshin is a forbidden technique, but this doesnt stop them from learning it.
seems like basic to jounin users. Oro probably thought him this or acquired from sharingran.

[jodi]

no, who told you that kage bunshin is normal to jounin?
no no, thats not true
it was a forbidden technique
you guys are changing it for bunshin no jutsu...
i only saw few people using kage bunshin
Itachi, Kakashi, Sarutobi and Naruto
remember sarutobi x oro?
oro asked him why wasn't he using kage bunshin, because it is a very lethal jutsu
in fact, I think that only Kakashi and Itachi know how to use it well
even Naruto doesn't know it

in fact, it can trick your enemy so you can stab him from behind, and such things like that are powerful
not only making 1000 clones and everyone go face the enemy
at least, for me is way cooler being smart than being a hulk

[Kusachu]

My thoughts on Sasuke knowing Kagebunshin are that while he probably does know how to use it, he doesn't need it, or it may not be safe for him to use. Sasuke does have a lot of chakra, but when things get tough he has to resort to using his seal. That could be harmful if he was using a lot of energy to make clones because when he hits his limit his seal would open on its own. Not to mention, using sharingan requires a lot of chakra to maintain on its own, and anything he could do with a clone, he could do with either genjutsu, or simply by using sharingan to predict movements and dodge.

I guess what I mean is that it is superfluous for him to use it. He's better off just using the skills that suit him.

[jiro]

i mean the normal "bunshin no jutsu" not the kage version.
it was in their graduation exam.

the only people i know who used it are naruto, kakashi, ebizu, sarutobi and itachi.
i bet sasuke knows it. just like kakashi.
[hr]
Konohamaru also knows kage bunshin.
he called them
Sexy: Double Knockout Girls Technique
and
Sexy: Double Knockout Guys Technique

is the translation is wrong or we got it wrong?

[Daghost72]

does sauske know kage bunshin no jutsu? it would be strange if he didnt. i mean he can summon, has a HUGE variety of snake jutsu, chidori, like practically all of orochimaru's powers. it would be strange that oro didnt teach kage bunshin, or he didnt know it. but i guess that if sauske knew kage bunshin, that would make naruto's only practical justsu useless.

Yes he can, I think they learned that move in the academy. People can't use
Tajū Kage Bunshin no Jutsu ( Because it's a forbidden technique :)

[M3J]

I don't think he knows kage bunshin no jutsu, but he should know bunshin no jutsu. Both are completely different jutsu - kage bunshin produces a real body while bunshin doesn't.

[Hrathgrath]

You know I don't think they've touched too much on whatever the tech is that creates a clone WITHOUT a real body.. cause water clones, wood clones, stone, bug, crystal.. they all have real bodies. The only thing that makes Naruto special is that he can do the Mass Shadow Clone Technique(tajuu kage bushin no jutsu), whereas if almost anyone else were to do it they would die from pulling that much chakra... Which makes me wonder if chakra powerhouses like A, Kirabi and kisame maybe, would be able to use it to the extent Naruto can. Maybe not as creative as Naruto since he has so much experience, but they should be able to do it..

[ninjabot]

Sasuke's used Bunshin no Jutsu before, but not Kage Bunshin no Jutsu. Though after seeing the handseal a trillion times, seeing him perform it atleast once wouldn't be at all illogical. He has the means, he knows the seal, and his chakra control is immaculate.

But no, he hasn't used it yet.

[zerocooldx]

Sasuke by all accounts should be able to use the SC jutsu. But he probably never will. Because it would open up a giant can of worms. I mean fighting one MS, or now EMS shinobi, is more then a hand full for anyone. So who knows what would happen if anyone had to fight 2 or more of those shinobi. Itachi was obviously limited due to his illness with what he could do with the SC jutsu. However Sasuke could easily have at least 1 or 2 SC's use MS.

If anything we should be asking why aren't Itachi or even Nagato going to make a few thousand SC's now that they both have an immortal body and a bottomless pool of chakra and end this war themselves? Point being, some characters have to be limited and prevented from using certain jutsu. Otherwise someone pretty ridiculous things could happen.

[Suzaku]

He knows how to use it, there's no doubt to that.

However, there's no real good reason for him to use it. He doesn't have a nearly limitless supply of chakra like Naruto does, and the sharingan already consumes a ton of chakra. Before he got the mangekyo sharingan he had the curse seal to worry about, too.

Sasuke's biggest weakness in general is that he runs out of chakra too frequently, that's been historically true with most of his big fights pushing him to the brink.

[Rikudou King]

Sasuke not using Kage Bunshin shouldn't have anything to do with his supply of chakra. He wouldn't need a limitless supply to make one or two and the Sharingan nor MS consume that much. We have seen Sasuke use multiple MS techniques over an extended period without running out of chakra, so using a clone shouldn't make things any harder.

[ninjabot]

Though it's never been stated, basic Sharingan Genjutsu seems to cost less chakra than Kage Bunshin, and reap alot of the same rewards, thus Sasuke doesn't really need it. All he needs to do is become more proficient (not necessarily more powerful) with his trickster-type Genjutsu because all he has to do is look you in the eye to make you see what he wants you to see.

I can understand how more numbers would help in a fight, but since his fighting style revolves around high chakra cost jutsu at the moment, he shouldn't be splitting his chakra with clones unless he's 100% positive it'll reap the intended reward.

[young simba]

As stated before I'm pretty sure he can do it, but I don't think it is sasuke's style. He doesnt need to overwelm people with numbers because apparently Kishi feels the one sharingan is worth a thousand shadow clones

[xXan]

He can't do it. He used Oro's clone thing when he had to trick Itachi. Sasuke is not the type to not integrate something as good as SC in his arsenal (just like Itachi). It is obvious that for some non-logical reason Sasuke can't do it as Kishi needs it that way (for some reason lol).

Contrary to what some people believe SC is not used only to overwhelm the enemy with clones... Its used to trick, defend, attack scouting. Defend vs genjutsu (2+ targets to trap and no idea what is the real one), replace yourself with a clone so the enemy shots a big jutsu at that, attack from 2 diferent sides and 1 is for distraction, send clones out to get info on a place with no real danger to yoursel (like send them at the kage summit to get info) etc, etc, etc. The posibilities are endless. Makes no sense for Sasuke to not take advantage of it if he could use it.

[Omnion_1990]

He can't do it. He used Oro's clone thing when he had to trick Itachi. Sasuke is not the type to not integrate something as good as SC in his arsenal (just like Itachi). It is obvious that for some non-logical reason Sasuke can't do it as Kishi needs it that way (for some reason lol).

Contrary to what some people believe SC is not used only to overwhelm the enemy with clones... Its used to trick, defend, attack scouting. Defend vs genjutsu (2+ targets to trap and no idea what is the real one), replace yourself with a clone so the enemy shots a big jutsu at that, attack from 2 diferent sides and 1 is for distraction, send clones out to get info on a place with no real danger to yoursel (like send them at the kage summit to get info) etc, etc, etc. The posibilities are endless. Makes no sense for Sasuke to not take advantage of it if he could use it.

not only that, but if you get to the level of prowess itachi has with it you can skill f*** jonin like toys, as he did when itachi was first introduced properly in Naruto. They also can be used with Clone explosion. I am still thinking naruto is a noob with them, as he needs to make thousands, when the third can make 3 and they dont disappear even when "attacked". if naruto could make those thousands withstand simple stabs then that will become an even more offensive technique.

But the whole point of making is unique to naruto, and not sasuke, was its forbidden nature of splitting the chakra equally and naruto has more chakra than sasuke.

[Crystal Black]

It would be foolish to believe Sasuke can't use Kage Bunshin. If Sasuke was to ever use clones the way Itachi or even Kakashi does, he would virtually have no flaws in his skills and abilities.