Reborn! volume 19 (ch165-174) Discussion

[kirimi]

Gamma came back from the dead? I hope this will be explained.
Both Glo and Gamma had Mare rings but they haven't used them, right?

Well, I don't think anyone can come back from the dead. ^^; Most likely, he was barely alive when they found him (like Glo) and recovered. It's been almost three weeks since he was beaten by Hibari.

Glo and Gamma have already used their Mare Rings in their fights. Gamma is Lightning, Glo is Rain.

[natli]

He had a huge spike sticking out of his throat so I assumed that he died. Then again this is manga :)

I like that Gokudera has a manipulative cat. I predict the birth of a great partnership.

[Rainier]

About all those Millefiore guards, I think the Varia will take care of them...remember in the ring battles when they said that the ones who were fighting for the rings were not the only Varia members?

I'm starting to like Irie now and, I really liked Goku's personality in this chapter...starting to dislike Bianchi though.

[Sherlock Holmes]

....RYOHEI WILL SAY EXTREME 3 TIMES!

[Slashout]

I said it in the discution part already, but I think we will see Vongola's ally in japan pretty soon( Longchamp/Dino's family and the like).
Maybe the next chapter, or the one after.
They will be needed to fight off millefiore's army alongside the Varia if they do show up.

[Audition]

Umm.. .. I predict that Chrome will wake up or had a dream with Mokuro again

also maybe some funny scenes and training session O_o

[Ueda]

He had a huge spike sticking out of his throat so I assumed that he died. Then again this is manga :)


Well, he was still injured... You can see it pretty clear in the part that he shows up. And I said somewhere that I thought unlikely that one of Tsuna's guardians would kill someone, and everyone laughed at me... >< I'm glad to see that, even if they are in the mafia, they don't dirty themselves going all out and killing people like that. I was taking a look at Gamma's chapter, and I was pretty sure that he was dead. >< Anyway...

[Sanguina]

The conflict btw Bianchi and Hayato has been mentioned through alle the last chapters...since Hayato understood the Sistema C.A.I. I think Bianchi will give him the "present" from their father and it will somehow lead into the two making up...

I'm curious about what Chrome will say if she wakes up and sees the blue prints of the Millefoire's base...since she also had a dream about this circular room/door/machine whatever. I hope I didn't got it wrong but I understood that Mukuro told Chrome that he is there (at this circular thing) in the dream...so I hope he's not dead but could posess something inside the base (what eventually maybe helps the other guardians).

I'm kinda worried about this reinforcement guy, since now the Millefoire have 4 strong guys in Japan (two are wounded though)...

And I think we will see Hayato's cat's real abilities in the next chapters.

[Koen]

I hope that either we'll see the real deal behind the cat or that yamamoto has acquired something like goku too

[Oni_James]

Yamamoto had the swallow, remember? but i think we're forgeting two important people in the future arc...(maybe they've said they are dead, or they aren't there, but i don't remember it) i'm talking about the man who in the past beated up 50 Varia members before coming to Namimori...yes, Lanchia! and the other is Basil, they may appear in the upcoming chapters, when they fight Milefiore's japanese group.
i expect this next chapter to explain some unclear things, like who is the sword guy that does all that Byakuran says and will kill anyone who doesn't want to do what Irie says, or the sistema C.A.I. basically they explain something, because the new chapters only open new mysteries and don't explain any of them, but that's what makes Reborn! a great manga:tem

[alexlw92]

so, if its rings vs rings, then glo vs yamamoto, and lambo vs gamma...-.-

btw, if the pacifiers are part of the 7^3 thing...everything else can light up in flames in the trinisette (mare rings, vongola rings), so they should be able to do the same. and isnt it strange that the only arcobaleno that hasnt been mentioned yet is the orange one (assuming it isnt lalmirch), which is the color of the sky?

[Ueda]

Actually, he was mentioned... He is, probably, I-pin's master... Verde, Skull, Mammon, Reborn, Colonello, Lal Mirch and I-pin's master. I don't know if he is orange or red, but all of them are now revealed... =)

[sengpoi92@gmail.com]

Yamamoto had the swallow, remember? but i think we're forgeting two important people in the future arc...(maybe they've said they are dead, or they aren't there, but i don't remember it) i'm talking about the man who in the past beated up 50 Varia members before coming to Namimori...yes, Lanchia! and the other is Basil, they may appear in the upcoming chapters, when they fight Milefiore's japanese group.
i expect this next chapter to explain some unclear things, like who is the sword guy that does all that Byakuran says and will kill anyone who doesn't want to do what Irie says, or the sistema C.A.I. basically they explain something, because the new chapters only open new mysteries and don't explain any of them, but that's what makes Reborn! a great manga:tem

Yeah, i forgot about those 2 myself.....
Maybe Basil is the Foreign Advisor(the position where Tsuna's dad used to be) in the 10 years later...while Tsuna himself is the boss....

[lunacyandme]

Isn't Mammon = Viper?

[Satarak]

Yes, but Mammon =/= Verde. Verde is the arcobaleno that researched the boxes remember.

[Ueda]

Yeah! And I mentioned him as Mammon and not as Viper... anyway... Verde is the Arcobaleno that send two assassins to kill Tsuna in the episode when Gokudera turned into a baby. lol


Anyway, I wish Tsuna figures out soon what he needs to complete his new attack...

[Impel Down]

Seems to me that they should each complete their training, like one each chapter. Although, it seems that Gokudera already figured out everything he needs to do, since he did that "Sistema CAI" thing, whatever that is. And I assume those explosions were him killing the scorpions in the sand.

Next ought to be Yamamoto figuring something out in his training and doing something fantastic, but we shouldn't see the full final result of his training until he actually fights with the Millefiore. Tsuna, although, could figure it out now or later, but it doesn't matter. I mean, he figured out the ZPB in the midst of battle.

[Ueda]

Seems to me that they should each complete their training, like one each chapter. Although, it seems that Gokudera already figured out everything he needs to do, since he did that "Sistema CAI" thing, whatever that is. And I assume those explosions were him killing the scorpions in the sand.

Actually, he wasn't in that sandy room... He was at the conference room, studying in his "scientific form"... That explosion happened cause he figured something out, and tested it out... ><

[Impel Down]

Ah.

Well, I guess now he might try to get all the scorpions now, but, to me, Bianchi was trying to train him in accuracy, not just raw power.

Making a large explosion is not only something he could already do, but in a fight wouldn't do him anymore good than he's given himself so far, plus, he was caught in that explosion as well.

[kirimi]

Target 173 is out now! Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22636)!! Many thanks to Sai_the_Shaman! While waiting for the translation/scanlation, there's a rough summary here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=636338#post636338).

Translation should be done by tomorrow.

[kirimi]

Target 173 is out!! Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22636)!!

How many times will Ryouhei say EXTREME next week? What's Yamamoto's new technique all about? Will Reborn finally reveal something!? What's going on in the Millefiore base!? Predict away!!

Have fun guys :)

[kirimi]

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[Impel Down]

So, Yamamoto's finally done well in his training, and is doing crazy flamming slash attacks now. That's pretty cool. And Reborn seems to just be conferming that the Arcobaleno were adults before they got their pacifiers and were cursed into becoming babies.

Hopefully we might see his true form next.

[Obxist]

shit,.. i want to see the next chapter !!! yamamoto's new move is splendid... and yeah with the way reborn talk about that its like their through either a cursed or some kind of reincarnation

[Obxist]

looks like reborn will reveal some mysteries regarding arcobaleno,.. especially after what he said,.. i am thinking that arcobaleno is used to be a normal human being but got cursed and turn into a baby.... but when i see the future Lal mirch i am thinking that arcobaleno is all about reincarnation as u may notice, reborn has many knowledge in different things.. maybe silly like hes very smart,. hes from thailand XD ... i must say that reborn got the memory from his past life and he got another new one,.. and completely 'reborn' into a baby named 'reborn' that have all the skills from the past life... sorry for the complicated words LOl

[Raijatsu]

no EXTREME next week
I hope for Gokudera's trainingfinally explaining CAI (It is the third time I write this XD)
but Reborns explanation about the arcobaleno would be cool too.

[vashdestampede]

hmmm is it really fire¿
i thought yamamoto's signature moves were all water related

although i love it how we see just enough to be excited for the upcoming battles
except for tsuna...to me, tsuna seems to be the one who's progressed the least
but he's probably an 'in battle' evolver

[noonethere]

I think there will be more Bianchi and Gokudera(hopefully more about CAI as Raijatsu mentioned)and more tsuna training. I doubt Reborn will explain about the arcobaleno in the next chapter(hope i am wrong). Maybe we will hear more about the attack plan of both the Vongola and Millefiore.

[Impel Down]

It's blue-fire, and I think before his swallow actually MADE water with his future self.

Maybe his Rain Fire mixes with the water his swallow makes to generate a tidal-wave slash attack. And Tsuna hasn't really progressed the "least", since he's clearly gotten more used to his new gloves, which are far stronger, and he's busy practicing on getting his new uber-attack ready.

[sabret00the]

I really despise Lal Milch. I hate her with a passion. I especially hate the fact that she's seemingly forgot that she's not actually helped Sawada do anything thus far. It's actually been him by himself, Hibari and Reborn!

Please kill her soon.

[kirimi]

That's a little harsh, considering it was Lal who taught Tsuna, Gokudera and Yamamoto how to use the Rings with the Boxes in the first place. :notrust If she isn't helping them, she wouldn't even be in the Vongola base.

Why not share with us what you did like in the chapter? :)

[Ueda]

Lal is awesome. Don't forget that she is training Tsuna even with her body injured. And she kicks his ass. =P

This chapter was really cool. I was wondering when Yamamoto would show us his "new move". That's really nice...

[sabret00the]

That's a little harsh, considering it was Lal who taught Tsuna, Gokudera and Yamamoto how to use the Rings with the Boxes in the first place. :notrust If she isn't helping them, she wouldn't even be in the Vongola base.

Why not share with us what you did like in the chapter? :)
Gokudera and Yamamoto used there's more or less straight away and while she tried to teach Tsuna. her methods were wrong and so Reborn took over. She hasn't actually successfully taught them anything. she's just shouted a lot and made a lot of threats.

I'm at the point of wondering why Amano wants us to hate her so much.

[Koen]

This was a great yamamoto centered chapter. I really liked the idea of squalo leaving a video behind that only a swordsman like yamamoto can understand. I was suprised when reborn said that yama had to do the most work. The face he got and reborn's hat torned at the end was so great.

[Koen]

I hope we might know what reborn will reveal. Though I doubt about it because it could be something that our guardian(s) can use later on in the story. Or maybe it's got to do with the arcobaleno, or does it have to do with the WHY they got in the future? Lots of possibilities.

We might see goku fighting the scorpions or tsuna fighting hibari

[Kazuo Kiyoshi]

That was a good chapter, but somehow, Lal got to me, she keeps pickin' on Tsuna. It's like she's shooting down ideas before he gets to explain it. And how does she have so much energy, even after Reborn sayin she's tired from even sitting down/getting up? But nevermind that, I'm just rambling about nothing. xP Also, if anyone thinks I hate/dislike Lal, I don't. Just she kinda bugged me this chapter.

That training room for Yamamoto is pretty cool, having water come in and going out.

Since he could use the swallow and shigure kintoki, wasn't there another box he couldn't open?

[sabret00the]

I'm hoping for a chapter dedicated to Lambo, however i reckon it'll be all about Tsuna.

[Ueda]

I get the feeling that 174 will be all about Reborn, and his secret.

[sephysarkon]

I wouldn't put it past 'er to switch to the Millefiore for a while, then get back to Reborn and company. >_>; Either way... I hope Reborn tells of his secret, and/or his 'true form', as he told Yamamoto. Hopefully more than just baseball nut will know of any oncoming information.

~the seph

[sephysarkon]

Ahh, I agree with Kazuo Kiyoshi in regards to Lal. She's sort of getting on my nerves, even though I thought it was pretty awesome that she gave Tsuna a reality check. Not that I didn't feel for the boy, though, as stressed as he was, but um... Reborn's too soft in comparision in that regard, to me >_>;

Anyway, yeah, Lal... I'm neutral about her. Don't like, don't dislike because the cool/ugh aspects I keep seeing from her don't impress me enough either which way.

As for the chapter, I was rather surprised to see it was Yamamoto centric. Not that I minded, but I'd also liked to have seen what's up with Gokudera. And his kitty. xD;

This is totally random, but that panel right before Reborn said, "You passed," doesn't it look like his child form is dissolving? Or is it just me? 'Cause it doesn't look like water to me...

~the seph

[Slashout]

I really like Lal, but it's true she is getting a bit annoying lately. She is always getting pissed off by something, always shouting that she do not agree about this and that.
She is not doing much either, right now Tsuna's training is with Hibari and by himself when he is alone, she is too weak to train with him. She is stronger than Tsuna only when he is in his normal form.
In fighting alone he was already better than her right at the begining of the arc, but with her boxes and rings she had the upper hand, right now he is probably way stronger than her with his new improved dying will by using his ring, the knowledge of the boxes and with the training he did after receiving the proof of the vongola. Also don't forget she was afraid of the Gola mosca (v2?) while futur Yamamoto had no trouble at all getting rid of it, and young Yamamoto is probably getting close to his futur self strengh. And we can't have Tsuna, the leader, weaker than him right? ^^
She is still teaching him, but being stronger is not a necessity to teach.

Well I still like her, but I hope she will calm down a bit :D.

[vashdestampede]

I think lal mirch's own physical condition is what's irking her the most. Maybe her abilities are severely limited by this and she's disappointed in herself because of it.

Also, apart from ryohei, she's the only one from the future who's constantly around the guys so she might think it's her role to be the cynical one. Also, her reaction in this chapter isn't that farfetched. I mean if someone mentioned something they saw in a dream, especially in regards to something important as an invasion where people's lives (technically...even though no-one dies) and more are at stake, it's easily the most credible reaction

[Audition]

I was hoping that the training is over! time for fun games of kyoko and haru!

--

We will see Hibari and chrome on the chapter :)

[Slashout]

I did not mean especially for the last chapter though ^^.
I am talking in general, since shooting, and getting pissed off are her general reaction lately.
Her reaction seemed the more realistic of them all, but then again, that's the reaction she always has no matter what ^^;.

I don't see why, her being one of the only "adult" would make her think she has to be like that though. I would think, that she would be more calm and mature about thing. After all they all are children in a world they don't belong to (yet) where their lives are at stake, and she is one that belong here and should be (a bit) less stressed out by what's happening around.

[Koen]

well I am not annoyed by lal at all. It's obvious that she is getting more nervous for several reasons:
1. the word millefiore lets her think about the death of colonello
2. she has a huge responsability in training tsuna so well that he will be strong enough to defeat millefiore
3. If it is about pacifiers and some kind of machine tsuna saw in his dreams, while she has her pacifier and the one of colonello. She is a freaking dangerous key in millefiores plan

I can understand she's nervous. Btw she wasn't the only one. Goku, tsuna have had their bad moments too

[Impel Down]

I don't think that giant machine is the Arcobaleno Cancer Machine, I think it's the "time machine" or whatever Irie was working on.

But the Millefiore ARE responsible for the rays that kill the Arcobaleno, of course, that may just not be the machine.

[sabret00the]

I understand what you're all saying about Lal being frustrated and had she actually taught Tsuna anything then i'd be fine but it's the fact she thinks she's doing so much when in reality she's hardly done anything. The only thing she actually taught Tsuna was that in order to escape her attack, he would've needed to extinguish his flame. Her scepticism about him and his ability is just annoying. she's the only one that doesn't believe in Tsuna and she has zero good reason for it. To act to the point she dismisses his intuition something that's been noted for 10 generations of Vongola is just stupid.

[Impel Down]

She seems to think that Tsuna is just naive, it seems. I mean, when he talked to her in the hallway, she commented on he wasn't a good boss because he couldn't understand about the decision to attack the Millefiore Japanese Base.

She's also just angry at him because she may think that Tsuna dreamed of the Arcobaleno Cancer machine, which is something that she's determined to destroy, since it killed all her nakama, espcially Colonello.

[Kazuo Kiyoshi]

This is totally random, but that panel right before Reborn said, "You passed," doesn't it look like his child form is dissolving? Or is it just me? 'Cause it doesn't look like water to me...

~the seph

Toooo long, sorry, had to cut it. But I think it's just Yamamoto getting a hit on Reborn.

THAT, or Reborn is transforming into adult form and his hair or aura has destroyed his hat and he's becoming bigger! Quite the stretch, eh? So unless you were talking about somethign else, I think that's it.


I really like Lal, but it's true she is getting a bit annoying lately. She is always getting pissed off by something, always shouting that she do not agree about this and that.
She is not doing much either, right now Tsuna's training is with Hibari and by himself when he is alone, she is too weak to train with him. She is stronger than Tsuna only when he is in his normal form.
In fighting alone he was already better than her right at the begining of the arc, but with her boxes and rings she had the upper hand, right now he is probably way stronger than her with his new improved dying will by using his ring, the knowledge of the boxes and with the training he did after receiving the proof of the vongola. Also don't forget she was afraid of the Gola mosca (v2?) while futur Yamamoto had no trouble at all getting rid of it, and young Yamamoto is probably getting close to his futur self strengh. And we can't have Tsuna, the leader, weaker than him right? ^^
She is still teaching him, but being stronger is not a necessity to teach.

Well I still like her, but I hope she will calm down a bit :D.

Yeah, totally true. All future Yamamoto had to do was an ol' move of Squalo's.

But wouldn't she be different if she saw Tsuna train? I mean. Does she just not care about his new move? Or it's like "wow, good job, you're still a brat, no good as vongola 10th still"

I dunno, I'm just adding onto what you're saying, becauseee...I dunno.

[saskay]

i hope that 20+ lambo apears =/

[Slashout]

I hope we'll see some of the vongola allies this time.
Since it's the deadline for my last prediction :p.

[YunMi]

Hey :] I'm new here!

I was really hoping for Reborn to finally reveal his secret this time. I've been wondering what he was all about since I first started reading. Curse cliff hangers. ;_; I doubt the mysteries about the Arcobaleno will be revealed in 174. Amano likes to makes us wait anyway. D:

But I think this chapter will be back to either Tsuna or Gokudera and their training, since 173 was about Takeshi. :\ I'm confused about the CAI as well. Heh.

Ah well. Can't wait for 174 and the rest!

[kirimi]

Hi YunMi! Welcome to MH and the Reborn forum! :D

I really hope that the next chapter will continue directly from 173 too. I'm sick of hanging loose ends and time-skipping and location-skipping and not getting anywhere. When you look back, it's actually all very good, but the suspense at the end of the chapter is just UNBEARABLE. XD

Whether Reborn reveals his secret or not, I want to see development in Yamamoto. I think that's far more important (currently) than the Arcobaleno secret, which I'm sure would resolve itself in time to come.

PS. Slashout-kun! Your Santa Basil!! :XD

[Slashout]

I too hope it will continue directly from 173, so that we at least have a bigger clue about the arcabanelo's mystery. It might really happen, Tsuna is gettin curious about it, so my guess is that he'll start asking reborn pretty soon :).

Ps : Kirimi-chan, to tell the truth I made it after seeing your Santa-Dino :D. I just loved it so I made mine too ^^. I hope I don't have to pay for copyrights xD.

[sephysarkon]

@Kazuo: Yeah, that was what I was talking about. It didn't look like water falling to me, so I thought that Reborn was changing/his baby appearance leaving. I don't know it that's the case, but considering some seem to think that adult!Reborn was the one who said, "You passed," it makes sense?

~the seph

[Kazuo Kiyoshi]

Well. I'm guessing they're gonna either give a clue or just let the whole thing out. And if they do. it's either have Yamamoto going "!?!" "Eh!?!?" or something, or just forget about his reaction and just let the secret, and they go off to another scene. Don't really think it's gonna be a whole chapter. But that's just me.

[Slashout]

I wonder if Yamamoto will be surprised.
I think it will be more like "Wow that's a nice background for your roleplay" or something :p.

[YunMi]

Haha, yeah.

Still I think the whole "role-play" thing is a little too much now... it was funny at first but it kind of bothers me now. Plus it's kind of strange for him to still think it's still just a game, after the battle with Squal/the Vongola ring arc, the future arc, etc... :\

[Slashout]

Yeah, but I think he has an idea and is playing a little dumb or something. Because you just can't think all of this is "roleplay" as you said, and he was pretty worried when Squalo was suposedly eaten by the shark, and usually, people don't get eaten by big shark when roleplaying :p.

[YunMi]

lol Yep, I get what you mean. :P Either that or he's in denial. But I'm sure he's conscious of this whole mafia thing now... after getting seriously injured in the battle with Squalo/Gamma (? o_o what was his name again) and stuff. :\

PS. You're French? xD I can speak French. :P Hehe.
Also, I love your sig! Haha.

[Slashout]

Yeah his name was Gamma ^^. Yamamoto was pretty serious while fighting him, maybe he is mostly playing dumb around Tsuna?
Well his reaction when he'll learn the truth from reborn will be pretty interesting ^^.

Ps: Thanks !! it took me a long time to get it done :D.

[Rainier]

I think it's going to be about the last preparations for the upcoming assault to the the Millefiore, it has been like 4 days already (the three that happened in the last chapter plus the others (if any) that ocurred after Tsuna ordered to get ready).

Either that or some clues about the Millefiore and Irie Shouichi.

[Icingdeath]

Reborn goes to show his "True Form" to Yamamoto, to which we get a behind shot of Reborn as a black silhouette with a surprised Yamamoto looking at him, and then pan to 1 of 3 choices; 1) Tsuna using his new move against Hibari in their "sparing" (imo this is most likely to happen, 2) Millefiore base going ons and the New Swordsman that showed up is possibly going to be shown as the holder of the Mare Rain Ring or 3)Gokudera doing some more of his training and a vague explanation of the CAI.

Like someone mentioned earlier (think it was in another prediction post), other than Tsuna's new move (which I'm guessing he's going to be creating another new move in the middle of a major fight, because this attack has been getting a lot of attention/explaintions already) I doubt Yamamoto or Gokudera's attacks/style will be explained in any detail until the middle of a major fight (or atleast during the Japan base raid).

[yanniv]

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バレ
ハルやビアンキでパーティの準備
ヒバリや了平､ラルとリボーンは作戦会議､成功率は0.0024％
京子からのお守りを無くしたツナは捜索中に京子に遭遇
お守りは京子が拾っていて､お守り用内ポケットを付けたジャケットもくれる
入江はボンゴレのアジトを発見
地下にあるという可能性に気付かなかった様子
ボンゴレのみんながパーティを楽しむなか､入江が直ちに突入を決行するところで次回

[kirimi]

Thank you~! It seems the image confirmed the spoiler before. ^^

Translation of brief summary~

Haru and Bianchi prepare a party.
Hibari and Ryouhei, Lal and Reborn have a meeting about the operation. They estimate their chance for success at 0.0024%.
Tsuna lost Kyoko's mamori (lucky charm) and was looking for it when he meets her. Kyoko had found the mamori. It was inside a jacket.
Irie discovers the Vongola hideout. He comes to the conclusion that it could be underground.
The vongola kids are enjoying their party as Irie decides to attack the Vongola base first.
End of chapter.

[Audition]

again.. a must see chapter ^_^

thanks kirm...

[kirimi]

More pictures. Sorry it's not in proper order. >_>


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[Audition]

woah.. cool pics....

Tsuna x Kyoko time!

w00t w00t

[shadowfigher]

thank you for the spoiler, wasn't there suppose to be an adult Reborn? any pic?

[kirimi]

There's no mention of adult Reborn in the spoilers. -_-

One more pic!


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/kirimi/reborn/spoilers/174-08.jpg

Irie has all the attack forces standing by. They intend to attack the Vongola base immediately!! O_O

FYI, the Vongola operation is supposed to be the following day. Oh dear. If the Millefiore attack, the worst part is, Haru and Kyoko will be in big danger. T_T

[bunshindattebayo]

Thx kirimi-chan & yanniv:XD

[shadowfigher]

There's no mention of adult Reborn in the spoilers. -_-

Quite disappointing not to see adult Reborn yet, I was really impatient to see this one. But still it seem like an awesome chapter like always

[DrunkDragon]

Woot, thanks for the spoils :D

[Az3r]

Looks like a chapter worth waiting. Thanks Kirimi and Yanniv!

[bunshindattebayo]

So there is no Chrome in this chapter?

[Koen]

cool chapter and it is indeed a kyoko x tsuna chapter

[sabret00the]

Not quite the chapter of progression i had hoped for.

[Slashout]

Yay I knew the Millefiore would attack first.
Well this chapter wasn't really what I expected (I was expecting more stuff about the arcabanello of course :p). But now things are in full motion, the development is bound to get faster.
I'll wait for the full chapter to come out, you never know, there might be some more good info for us in it :D.

[Koen]

Not quite the chapter of progression i had hoped for.

You know the expression: silence before the storm?

[saskay]

You know the expression: silence before the storm?

it's going to be like the "training part" before the battle for the rings (varia arc?)

=/

[YunMi]

Never thought the Millefiore would attack first, haha. I agree, Kyoko and Haru are in danger... I guess we still don't have the answer to Reborn's past yet in this chapter. Ah well, even though it was way out of my expectations, still a chapter to look forward to and is well worth the wait. I just hope it's long, haha.

[Shrimp]

There's still the possibility that the Millefiore will meet with the Vongola as they are marching towards each other's base, and engage in an all-out battle in the middle of a city or I-don't-know-where... But if Irie and co. arrive at the hideout while there's no one there, they could realize they're being attacked as well and not even threaten Kyoko and Haru.

[Rainier]

I really doubt Tsuna and Goku are showing us thier new techniques in the upcoming characters...I think Amano is going to wait until they have a serious fight.

*Hopes is wrong*

[ChaosCloud]

I would say All acobaleno(Super Babies) were all adults but because of the power of the pacifier or the curse of the Acobaleno change them to Super babies
there was one of the chapter which shows lal mirch and collonello adult form together

[god_of_shawn]

I think Tsuna should had mastered his "weapon" by now, and i want to see Reborn's true form. ^_^

[kirimi]

Chinese scanlations are out!
http://photo.163.com/photos/klreborn/143697723/

There's a full Jp script too, but I'll translate it later. There won't be scans this week, so we'll have to wait for the usual less than MQ raws to surface. Sorry, Ueda. -_-

[Dofla]

The LQ/MQ raw is out here:

http://raw-paradise.com/

[Slashout]

Yay thanks for the link.
Like always the chapters always finish 100 pages too early.
I can't wait for next week :p.

[Koen]

:o a discussion and prediction thread, always difficult to follow

but based on the spoiler this chapter is a prelude to something massive coming from millefiore. Anyways I'll always wait till a scan pops out

[sephysarkon]

Hmm... not exactly what I thought'd happen, but cute nonetheless. >_>;
Can't wait to see all Hell break loose now.

~the seph

[Witchchild]

I'm not sure whether to laugh or to cry. I'm happy there's finally some TsunaxKyoko development....but I wanted to see Big-Reborn too!

And I'm curious how this is going to work. Irie is in Japan and is about to attack. However, the message that Gokudera got from himself said that they had to defeat Byakuran as well....but that guy is in Italy and Mukuro couldn't defeat him.

So who (in the final showdown) is going to fight Byakuran?

[Audition]

I think its new .. but a filler

well just enjoy reading.. :D

http://read.mangashare.com/Katekyou-Hitman-Reborn/chapter-173.5/page001.html

[Witchchild]

I had noticed that, too. Wonder where it fits into the storyline. Either way, thx for the release Kirimi and Az3r.

[alexlw92]

kyokos gonna die. or at least get hurt.

[Sanguina]

I'm kind of disappointed of this chapter, it's the worst time (in my opinion) to develop TsunaXKyouko...I want to know Reborn's story!! ;_;
On the other hand, I'm glad the fight is slowly going to start ^^



So who (in the final showdown) is going to fight Byakuran?

I think Tsuna will make progress with his fighting skills, since I can't imagine there's only one new attack with the power of the ring...and then he'll be able to do it. Anyway, there's a long way to go for the group to be able to defeat byakuran...

[YunMi]

Uhm, I just thought, if the group defeats Byakuran/Millefiore now, Tsuna won't die now will he? Since the Millefiore was the ones who gunned down the old Tsuna, if they defeat him now they won't be there 10 years later (if Tsuna does get back to the present that is).

But when you think about it it seems weird though, so I guess those are two parallel universes, one with the dead Tsuna and one altered by the younger Tsuna so the old Tsuna won't be dead ten years later.

[Slashout]

Well actually I don't know about that.
If you think about it, whatever brought them to the futur already happened.
So either it was the millefiore, an "unknow" group, the vongola, but they did it already, and if the millefiore are defated, it would have been after they were brought to the futur, so what will not happen is the futur that was suposed to happen with the millefiore victorious.
The "dead" Tsuna (well I am still not convinced of his death ^^) will remain dead. If they want to prevent his death, they'll have to stop the events that happened earlier.
Well it's always complicated when time travel is involved ^^.

[Morri]

Uhm, I just thought, if the group defeats Byakuran/Millefiore now, Tsuna won't die now will he? Since the Millefiore was the ones who gunned down the old Tsuna, if they defeat him now they won't be there 10 years later (if Tsuna does get back to the present that is).No. So long as the Millefiore are defeated after the 10YL Tsuna dies, then he stays dead. Their actions in the future won't change the past.

However, if Tsuna defeats the Millefiore in the future, then goes back to the past, he'll still have the strength (and knowledge) that defeated Millefiore. So, when (in the past) Millefiore rise up to wipe out the Vongola, Tsuna and the others will have the strength to defeat them and therefore avoid the fate they saw when they were in the future (like Tsuna and Reborn dying).

[YunMi]

Oh, yeah, forgot, sorry about that. :x -dumb-

But I still believe there can be parallel universes and the one the past Tsuna is living in, the future Tsuna won't die. But that's just me. :x Cause then he'd have the knowledge of how he died and etc and could prevent it if he were to return to the past.

Gahh, I really don't want Tsuna to die. T3T

[Praz]

anyone else wonder what happened future versions of the gang? like why arent they hunting down the Milfiore in the past with their ownage new skillz? (plot hole? lol)

[Slashout]

There was a topic about that. Some made the hypothesis of the futur family being replaced. Meaning the past went to the futur and took their place and those of the futur "disapeared".

I am not really for that hypothesis. I think they were really send to the past but maybe they still can't do anything about it. The one they are looking for is Sho-chan younger self, but if he already is at the millefiore base (that was completed recently) they won't be able to do much about it. Or maybe they don't want to interfere...


To get back on topic, it seems the millefiore will really attack first. My prediction of them attacking first but missing the vongola's force was probably wrong...
I wonder how they will respond, because it seems that the vongola started drinking a bit ^^.

[Koen]

Just a question, since I wait till the scan but is an exact location known or do they just know the base is underground?

[kirimi]

The Millefiore have the exact coordinates. They found Glo's tracking device. But, how they're going to get in is another matter since there are secured hatches and all that.

[Slashout]

I think they will be discovered while looking for the entrances, and the girls will escape, so that the boys can battle.

Now the question is "why did the mangaka made them leave their own base and fight at the vongola's hideout?" What is going to happen at the millefiore's base at the same time?

[Oni_James]

shit! they are now in trouble thanks to Glo, that stupid should have died before, if Varia is not helping, who will help? Longchamp? he'll make the people feel sad about Vongola with his bullet?XD may be help in the hands of Lanchia? Basil? Dino? i find it difficult if they haven't got any help, Lal is in a bad state, Chrome won't fight because she's still badly injured, and Reborn can't fight a lot because the non-7^3 thing... :darn damn it!

[sabret00the]

Thinking about the last chapter. how wrong was it for them lot to have the conversation in the absence of Tsuna and them? Tsuna is the boss and for good reason*. As for Irie, i've been thinking and i think he's either storm or mist.

*Well eventually :p

[Audition]

Omg.. the vongola is in trouble! I hope all will be okay and Im thinking where will the second hideout ?

Go Vongola Fight Fight!! Kill Irie!!

[maha_yuu]

sorry for bothering.. but where i can find chap 174 in English to download???

[Slashout]

It's not scanlated yet, it is translated though, you can find it on the index of this website in the translations.

[ChaosCloud]

well since the milliefoire is attacking the vongola HQ hopefully we WOULD BE able to see Reborn fight since he cant go outside and have to remain inside the base .This is going to be one hell of a chapter , Saw the spoilers hopefully there would be alot of fighting

[Impel Down]

I'm bummed, I was really looking forward to the Vongola Invasion of the base. The idea of Ryohei just blasting through the Millefiore base...oh well.

We'll probably just see the Guardians and other relevant members of the Famgilia get cornered by B-Rank members and fight with their new skills and maybe Reborn or Tsuna will get stuck with Irie and we'll finally get to see their fight. Although, Irie seems like a Storm Ring user, so maybe he'll fight Gokudera instead.

And with Kyoko and Tsuna: "She's looking like the sun" (or something like that I paraphrased) That is obvious foreshadowing to her energy wavelength, like her bro.