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TheChosenOne
December 14, 2007, 02:35 PM
Since all the vaizards have a inner hollow, could the arrancars (espada's mostly) have a inner shinigami inside them to, or does it only happen when the hybrid does not use the hougyoku to transform. Do you think they do, if not do you think they should. ? :)

mestizo311
December 14, 2007, 04:48 PM
Whoah!!!! Good question. It's tough to say if it's possible though. Hollows are born from human souls to begin with but not all human souls have shinigami powers either. I would like to believe that there would be some sort of balance even for an arrancar. Maybe their inner shinigami acts as their power to rationalize things rather than going off of their instincts.

gigantor21
December 14, 2007, 04:55 PM
That would kick ass. :)

At the same time, though, the Arrancars' Zanpakuto are shells for their original powers as Hollows, and not an extension for an Avatar. When you consider that, not having a Shinigami end, or even an Avatar, seems much more likely.

But if they do, do you think the ones that aren't Hougyoku based had to fight with their Shinigami selves to gain control of their bodies? And that they'd just turn into Shinigami if they lost? That'd be interesting.

Kanzen Shinkiro
December 14, 2007, 07:14 PM
I've been pondering the same question in my head for quite a while. The answer as of yet in unknown and mostly likely negative. However, we will figure this question out sooner or later. If they do, we ought to see one or mention of one soon.

MegaX
December 14, 2007, 09:05 PM
I don't think so. Shinigami is really just a set of powers, wheras a Hollow is a transformed state that is a physical manifestation of instinct.

TheChosenOne
December 15, 2007, 12:33 AM
What if they did have one, I would love if they did, that would provide a lot of depth. Just like vaizards need to control their hollow so they can use the mask, what if arrancars needed to control their shinihgami to use their releases. :)

AngryChubbs
December 15, 2007, 01:18 AM
i doubt it because if they have inner shinigami, doesn't that mean that if they lose to the shinigami, that they would then become good guys? lol

but who knows, it is very possible and maybe thats why nell isn't competely bad. maybe their inner shinigami is like their conscience or something

hollowdemon
December 15, 2007, 11:06 AM
i really hope that they dont since if thats the case then it would be like "a devil has an angel inside of him and an angel has a devil inside of him" its just not a good concept for kubo to throw that in and which i hope he doesnt.

Inkovic
December 16, 2007, 11:47 PM
It would be cool to see Ulquiorra rip of his mask to receive a massive power boost and lay a beat-down on Ichigo.

gigantor21
December 16, 2007, 11:55 PM
^ Then everyone else would do it, too, including the top 3. Yammi would be GJ level, the Primera would be stronger than Aizen, and any new Vastorodes could be stronger still. Then we'd have to go through a post-War Arc with more ridiculous boots and deus-ex crap, and...it'd just be unbearable, you know? We don't even know how anyone will beat Aizen.

Let's keep him at the top, and leave the others alone. Please.

AngryChubbs
December 18, 2007, 01:00 AM
lol, nah, aizen is a god, he would just remove his mask and then he would remove the mask's mask (yep, i invented it) and he kills everyone

MegaX
December 18, 2007, 06:58 PM
^ Then everyone else would do it, too, including the top 3. Yammi would be GJ level, the Primera would be stronger than Aizen, and any new Vastorodes could be stronger still. Then we'd have to go through a post-War Arc with more ridiculous boots and deus-ex crap, and...it'd just be unbearable, you know? We don't even know how anyone will beat Aizen.

Let's keep him at the top, and leave the others alone. Please.

What if there was some drawback to it? Like, what if removing the mask gave a massive power boost, but had the effect of limiting or ending the life of the user by burnout?

gigantor21
December 18, 2007, 08:17 PM
^ It would still be just as cheap. If the Espada's release wasn't enough, it'd be a death sentence either way. Plus, there'd always be the option of waiting them out until they die off.

That boost wouldn't help the story along at all IMO.

conn-man
December 20, 2007, 06:49 PM
i dont think they would have an inner shinigami, i could see them maybe having a zanpakdo spirit in them. kinda like how zangetsu and ichigos inner hollow have a power struggle.

AngryChubbs
December 22, 2007, 12:33 AM
well isn't giving a shinigami captain another release sort of an overkill also? i mean the espada are captain level so i guess they could maybe have another powerup. maybe that is how a vatolorde is created. isnt a vastolordes a hollow that has completely removed his mask? im prolly wrong but just trying to make an argument.

MegaX
December 22, 2007, 01:23 AM
well isn't giving a shinigami captain another release sort of an overkill also? i mean the espada are captain level so i guess they could maybe have another powerup. maybe that is how a vatolorde is created. isnt a vastolordes a hollow that has completely removed his mask? im prolly wrong but just trying to make an argument.

Vasto Lordes are just really powerful Menos that have evolved twice. Nothing to do with Arrancar.