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sahugani
February 09, 2008, 09:11 PM
Sahugani’s One Piece Review 487-488

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Lots more perviness to come

Hi guys. I guess you’ve all read the big news. Sorry for not getting out a review last week. With the startup of midterms, I didn’t really have the time even though the revelations in both One Piece and Bleach made putting it off a bit unbearable. Anyway, after the confirmation in this week’s chapter, there is nothing that could stop me from reviewing as studying would be useless with this still on my mind. The pics in this review come from the IOPC scan for 487 and the Weirdos scan for 488. The title pic is a great piece by Avro-Chan (http://avro-chan.deviantart.com/) at DeviantArt so stop by her account later.


487: That Song

Full View

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you decide who he most resembles

Although in the previous chapter’s flashback the upper half of Brooke’s face was hidden, this chapter starts off with a full view of his former self. In the discussion thread a couple of you noticed his similarity to Howard Stern or Slash and both are probably influences on Oda’s design. Like Slash, Brooke is a musician and wears a top hat over a big head of hair. Unfortunately, I doubt we’ll see Brooke playing the same type of music unless Franky makes him a cola-powered electric guitar (which would be AWESOME!!!). The closer influence would be Howard Stern. On this front, the hair is pretty much the same as with Slash, but the shades and his perverted nature go straight to Howard. A year ago, Brooke asked to see Nami and Robin’s panties, which is enough proof that Howard has been part of this character all along. However, despite these new apparent influences in his fleshed out form, he still retains the upbeat attitude of Jack Skellington that has been an obvious from day one. In a bit of a reference to radio hosts in general, Brooke’s first action in this chapter is to wake up the crew with a tune after announcing it in true radio host fashion. While the Strawhat crew lacks the number of basic crewmembers that Brooke was tasked at waking while among the Rumba pirates, this is at least one job that will fall to the skeleton. I expect very soon to see a joke stemming from Brooke forcing an angry Zoro to awaken while the crew’s early riser, Robin, giggles at her nakamas’ ridiculousness.


First Meeting

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awww

After waking up the Rumba pirate crew, the scene shifts to early morning on the deck of the ship in West Blue. As Brooke plays the captain’s favorite song and the tired crew looks over the rail, they see an adorable young whale looking back at them. They quickly get attached to it and name it Laboon but don’t expect that the whale will end up following them. As they travel along towards Reverse Mountain, their bond with Laboon only strengthens as he becomes the very definition of a precious nakama. After crew members fall overboard during battle, Laboon rescues them. In return, when a sea monster appears, the crew fights it in order to protect Laboon from danger. He even gets to share in the excitement of the crew finding treasure despite the fact that as a whale, he lacks the ability to spend money. It is revealed that as suspected, Brooke really was the one among the crew that Laboon was most attached to and vice versa. The best reason for this is the fact that Laboon was initially drawn to the ship by the music he heard and stayed because he loved it. As Brooke was the ship’s lead musician, he played music more often, more skillfully, and with more enthusiasm than anyone else, so Laboon became most familiar with him. The crew also joked around that the real reason was because Brooke’s afro made his head look like another whale and thus the closest to being related to Laboon. Although this is taken to be a joke, Brooke may have found some validity in it at some point. The basis for this is the fear that if he lost his afro, Laboon would not recognize him. Ideally, since Laboon’s initial affection for Brooke was based on music, a simple tune would be all that is needed to identify himself. However, Brooke does not want to take any chances and decided that he must maintain an appearance as close to his previous self as possible. Even though it was just a joke, Brooke must keep the afro as it is a sign of his bond with Laboon.


Attempted Goodbyes

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how can you say no to that

The story skips to the end of West Blue where the crew has decided that as a young whale, Laboon cannot survive the dangers of the Grand Line. At his present size, he would be easy prey for sea kings and as the rest of the crew are human, it would be extremely difficult to protect the waterborne nakama from the other dangers of the epic sea (had they been a crew of mermen the situation would be different). They have tried to convince him to stay behind but to no avail, so they tell Brooke to give it a shot. While Brooke tries spouting off the same speech about the dangers of the Grand Line, Laboon doesn’t seem to want to hear it. As the captain, Yorki makes the hard decision to make the crew turn its back on Laboon. It is clear that the whale does not want to listen to their words of reason and would rather travel with them despite the danger. In order to protect him, their only option seems to be to sever the bond so that Laboon won’t follow them anymore. The crew isn’t happy about treating him this way, but they all agree that it is for his own good. It seems to work as when they finally reach Reverse Mountain a week later, he is no longer in sight.


Still There

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i'd be surprised too

Upon arriving in the Grand Line and meeting Crocus, they find that their ship has been badly damaged by the trip over the mountain and ask the lighthouse keeper to let them stay. As noble pirates (as opposed to the pillaging kind) they gladly accept the terms Crocus sets out for doing their fair share of work while staying. However, they receive a huge shock when he asks about the young whale that came down the mountain with them. Even the harsh goodbye they offered before was not enough to make him go away. As the final day before they left West Blue was hit by a storm, it would have been relatively simple for Laboon to hide himself from the crew. In any case, now that he is there, the crew has no reason to maintain the cruel act of ignoring him. While they repair their ship, the crew stays with Crocus and Laboon and simply enjoy themselves.


Until Next Time

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little do they know how big he'll get

After staying for three months, the ship is fixed and it is time for them to leave. Brooke seems to have finally convinced Laboon to stay put and stop following them. This was most likely influenced by the presence of Crocus. After spending three months with him, he was considered a valuable friend to the crew and Laboon trusted him as much as he did the Rumba pirates. The biggest reason for his acceptance though was the promise made to him by Brooke and Yorki. They swore that after traveling all the way through the Grand Line and reaching the opposite side of the mountain, they would come back to him by going over the mountain once again. By that time, he would have grown big enough to handle the dangers of the epic sea and they could go on another journey together. A question this promise brings up though is the issue of travel from one side of the Grand Line to the other over Reverse Mountain. In the case of the Rumba pirates, it is not an immediately pressing issue as their purpose is to explore the Grand Line, so they can go along with their journey and concern themselves with how to get over the mountain when they reach the end. However, for pirates that have entered the Grand Line since Roger’s journey, their goal is One Piece, which supposedly lies at the end of the Grand Line on the other side of the mountain. If it was possible to travel from one side to the other, pirates would have done that already. As I assume it is just as hard to climb over the mountain from one side as it is from the other, Brooke’s claim of returning doesn’t seem physically possible. In any case, that is an issue to be dealt with far later in the story.


Pirate’s Purpose

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nakama don't make you rich though

This also brings up an issue of what the purpose of this second adventure would be. For that matter, since this occurred thirty years before Gol D Roger started the Great Pirate Age and leaving One Piece at Raftel, what is the purpose of this adventure? As they are clearly not the type of pirates to pillage goods from the innocent and they have no final goal such as One Piece, I can only assume their crew is more to be equated with treasure hunters than pirates. They travel to uncharted areas of the globe so that they can find treasure before it is confiscated by official expeditions from the World Government. Back before Roger’s epic quest, piracy was not about finding a fabled treasure like One Piece. Back then there were two kinds of pirates. One branch started for the mere purpose of getting rich quick by finding hidden treasures and stealing valuables from others. These kinds have survived to the present day and have added goals such as the fabled treasure of One Piece and the acquisition of power (examples of these include most of Luffy’s pirate opponents). The second branch of which the Rumba pirates exemplify started as a mere attempt to turn their lives into a never ending adventure. They live to fulfill their dreams irregardless of the World Government’s laws but do follow a code of conduct that makes them noble. These types also survived into the present time in the form of Whitebeard and Shanks. Whitebeard and Roger both lived their lives nobly and in pursuit of their dreams. Although Roger died, Shanks inherited his legacy and together with Whitebeard, Kaidou and the unnamed Yonkou, stand at the top of the pirate world. They have everything that most pirates of the time desire yet they keep ongoing because their dreams are not limited to money and power. They are the same type of pirates as the Rumba crew. To them, the adventure is never over because life is the adventure. By completing the trek around the Grand Line, it is only the end of a chapter in the greater adventure.


Empty Life

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does he still have that coffin onboard?

The scene cuts to three years later as Brooke is left all alone in his skeleton form on a broken ship. He collects the skulls of his nakama and stores them in a coffin as a way to give them a proper funeral. While he walks up and down the ship, he remembers the happy memories he had while traveling the Grand Line with the Rumba pirates. These memories range from dealing with the Grand Line’s impossible weather to the punishment of disunity among the crew. He even recalls an increase in Yorki’s bounty. It seems that even before the Great Pirate Age the World Government took pirates of Yorki’s nature seriously. Even though pirates like him offered no threat to the public, the fact that their journey was more about exploration than acquisition was even more frightening to the government. By obtaining knowledge outside of the government’s control, there is a risk of revealing their secret past. Just like in the present day, the World Government’s goal was to control the world by hiding their dark secrets and offering the public protection from danger. Despite this new ever present threat, the crew reacted just as the Strawhats (most of them at least) did by celebrating. In his solo journey, these happy memories are all Brooke has to keep him company.


Crew Broken

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i hope they meet again

Although most of Brooke’s memories are happy, the chapter ends with a sad one. Yorki got sick and the crew suspects it happened during a stop on a jungle island. While the crew is devastated, the captain tries to keep their spirits up. He tells them to leave him and their ship and continue their journey with a new ship. As there will be a new captain, it is only fitting that the successor makes his own mark with a new ship. This also makes Yorki’s plight parallel Brooke’s. Just as Brooke’s devil fruit forced him to live on his ship alone while his crew passed, Yorki’s disease made him do the same. This could bear some meaning later on as we find out that like Brooke, Yorki survived. Recall that at this time Dr. Kureha was only 90 years old, so there’s a chance that she or another doctor could have treated him. Since he acquired his disease in a jungle, there is a chance it is the same illness that befell Nami and if it is the same we know a cure exists. We know that Oda does not like to kill off characters and any characters that have died for real have received scenes where we clearly see them die (and even among those we see die like that some come back to life). The notable exception to this is Kuina, whose death was not shown, but the introduction of Tashigi revived the essence of the character. The uncertain death of Yorki implies that we may see him again in some form.

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488: Song of Life

Dreams

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poor Brooke

The chapter starts ten years after leaving Laboon and thus a bit less than seven years after leaving Yorki, Brooke is alone as a skeleton on the empty ship trying to entertain himself. As all he has are his memories, his only choice is to pretend those memories are real. For a moment he enjoys happiness with his revived nakama before realizing it is all a dream. Amazingly, despite the damage to the ship, the piano is still intact and he recalls the happiest moments of playing music alongside the crew. He remembers life after Yorki left. Although he was the new captain and the crew rode on a new ship, the Rumba pirates were still the same as they had ever been. It is revealed that in his time as captain, Brooke even got a bounty of his own. From the looks of it, I’d estimate that it is in the 20 million range, which is quite fitting I think. In terms of combat potential, he is weaker than most of the Strawhats though is still by no means a pushover. If you account for his increased speed as a skeleton and less vulnerability due to lack of flesh, you could say he’s more capable now than he was when he got the bounty. Even now though I’d rank his strength as below Franky’s. Add to this the fact that Usopp’s 30 million bounty was based very much on the act of shooting the World Government flag rather than his combat skill and it puts Brooke’s twenty something bounty in perspective as he is roughly the same as the sniper in power but lacks the same threat to the government.


Storage

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that must be useful

After a few brief screens showing the span of Brooke’s time as the Rumba captain, the scene shifts to the present day where he has stopped playing the piano and reaches into his head to retrieve an item. This seems to be a recurring theme around Brooke that he has many hidden items. The first clear example was his sword, which he keeps hidden as a cane when not in use. Now this continues with another clear example as he pulls a dial out of his empty skull. There are other less clear examples of this such as his violin appearing from nowhere and pianos either appearing from nowhere or somehow staying in perfect condition despite the wreckage surrounding them. However these are likely meant to be overlooked in the same way as Usopp’s Kabuto or Nami’s Climatact also appear from nowhere. Like Franky though, Brooke has a way to explain the random appearance of stored items. Along with his hollow skill, Brooke also has his empty ribcage, his top hat, and his afro in which to store any number of hidden items. I would be surprised if Oda did not make use if this in later fights.


Tone Dial

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how did the merchant know the product's name?

The item Brooke pulls out of his skull is a tone dial, which the Strawhats instantly recognize as an item from Sky Island. As we have seen firsthand that many items such as ships fall out of the White Sea and into the Blue Sea below, it is not surprising that dials too fell to the water’s surface. In fact, I would not be surprised if many of the technological advances made in the world over the centuries were made possible and were inspired by dials that had fallen from the sky. I suspect that the World Government has a wide collection of them as well and would not be in the least bit surprised if they are the cornerstone for many of Vegapunk’s discoveries and creations. One of the most obvious influences of dial technology in my opinion is the use of den den mushi. No matter how you think about it, the idea that talking into a snail shell would be the equivalent telephones in reality makes no sense. However, when you consider the tone dial’s ability to record sound, the manipulation of it to transmit it does not seem so far from possibility. An intelligent mind such as Vegapunks (though likely a person from an earlier time) could have located the source of the tone dial’s power and created the den den mushi somehow. The use of other dials could have produced many of the other advances made in the world by Vegapunk and others.


Final Moments

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the enemy must have been cruel to make these guys suffer from poison rather than have quick deaths

As Brooke plays the song recorded on the tone dial, he recalls the day his crew died. Although many of the Rumba pirates survived the pirate raid itself, the enemies’ weapons were poisoned and with the doctor dead, all that were still alive were fated to die soon anyways. Though they accept the fact that as pirates, they were prepared to lay their lives on the line to protect their dreams, they deeply regret that they were unable to keep their promise to Laboon. However, one of them recalls that Brooke has the powers of the Yomi Yomi no Mi and so he should be able to live a second life. Brooke decides that if these are their final moments they might as well make them happy ones. He tells them that if he truly does return to life as the devil fruit should theoretically let him, he’ll deliver their dying message to Laboon. Using the tine dial they have, they record the captain and Laboon’s favorite song so that Brooke can pass on their voices to Laboon even after they have died.


Due to the fact that the fruit’s effect is not noticeable until after death, this means that the fruit must have been among the ones catalogued or else they would have never known what effect it would have. This also means that this book that lists the known devil fruits dates back at least fifty years. Unless Vegapunk is over 70 years old, this negates the famed devil fruit researcher as its author. I suspect that the true author of the book is closely tied to the mystery of the fruits themselves and quite possibly to the ancient civilization the World Government erased from history. It is quite possible that the great weapon Pluton was created as a way to overcome the power of a nation that created the devil fruits. The ones who created the devil fruits had a way to determine the abilities of each and recorded it. However, after the conflict, the fruits were scattered around the world and all that was left was a record of each one by appearance and ability. Once again it’s a theory with no proof, but it gives some motive behind the mysterious conflict and ties together a few of the biggest mysteries of the series


Song That Never Ends

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i just realized how hard it is to analyse translated songs

As the song is played for the Strawhats, the pirates of the present time are paralleled to the dying pirates of 50 years earlier. The song unifies the two crews across the boundaries of time. The theme of the song is a reflection of true pirate life. The basic gist of it is that a pirate’s life should bear no regrets and that the freedom of pirates will never end. The most interesting verse is the final one as it has enormous symbolic relevance and for Brooke it even has literal relevance. The verse mentions that even after a person is reduced to mere bones, their journey will never end. In the intended symbolic sense, this is meant to imply that a pirate’s legacy will be eternal even after the pirate dies. For the Rumba crew, this is very fitting as the song as sung by them has been left by way of the tone dial to be passed on to Laboon. For Brooke, the mention of bones takes on another meaning that strongly hints that he will join the Strawhat crew. Even though he has died and been reduced to bones, he is still a pirate and as such his life still has a purpose of its own. He had long ago resolved that his wretched existence’s only purpose was to deliver the words of his crew to Laboon but his life itself had no worth as a skeleton. Now that he has found those that accept him though, his love of the pirate lifestyle may be reinvigorated.


Whittled Away

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this makes me sad

As the song ends, the scene shifts back to the final moments of the Rumba crew. One by one the pirates drop down dead from the poison until Brooke is left playing piano by himself. Once again we return to flashbacks within flashbacks and we see the beginnings of the Rumba pirates. When Yorki formed the crew he told them that the only condition was a love of music. As we have never seen Yorki himself play an instrument, it could be said that it was Brooke’s music that inspired Yorki to create the pirate crew. He was clearly the head musician and seemed to be the first mate as well, so even though Yorki was the one who banded them together, Brooke was the one who stood at the heart of the crew and it was his music that unified them. As such his music is representative of the crew and his survival truly represents the survival of the crew.


Conflict Resolved

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this review took alot out of me

The last couple chapters have all been leading up to this moment. While he doesn’t officially say he accepts Luffy’s offer to join the Strawhat crew, it is pretty clear that it is the case. He decides that he will fulfill his promise to Laboon word for word and will return to him by reaching the end of the Grand Line and going over Reverse Mountain. It is difficult to guess how his character will develop over the rest of the series due to his extremely unique qualities. Fortunately for him, the matter of people fearing a talking skeleton will be much less of an issue in the New World, where people are more accustomed to seeing bizarre events. As for how his combat skills will grow I doubt his growth will lie fully in his swordsmanship but will instead be an adapted form that plays more on his skeleton features than his sword. On a final note, my biggest reasoning against this was the fact that his dream lacks the same obstacles that the other Strawhat dreams do. For this I have still not come up with an explanation I’m fully happy with, but I trust that Oda will not let me down.


Overall

Well, well, well. After a full year of me saying that Brooke would not join, Oda decides to prove me wrong in the end. I don’t have much to say other than that I’m happy it happened. Being proven wrong keeps the story fresh for me and so I’m happy with it. I for one feel that my opposition to his recruitment made it all the sweeter when it happened. Good things are always better when unexpected.

Imitorar
February 09, 2008, 11:18 PM
Yeah, I know what it's like to have been wrong for a whole year about this. XD I feel silly, but in a good way. Brook as a Straw Hat will be awesome.

By the way, what you said about the two types of pirates actually has canonical basis. In the original Romance Dawn pilot (the one in One Piece RED: Grand Characters, that was never scanlated) there were two types of pirates. Peace Main, the adventuring treasure hunter types, and Morgania, the plundering types. The differentiation was made in the series itself in the Buggy arc, but the terms Peace Main and Morgania weren't actually used. I learnt this from the Wikipedia page for "Romance Dawn".

And I love your theories about the origin of the Devil Fruits and the book, and the origin of Den Den Mushi. I doubt the Den Den Mushi one will be confirmed ever, but it's still a great theory. And I always figured the book was just written by explorers, I never thought it was Vegapunk. But your theory is better, I think. I guess some Devil Fruits developed on their own, though, since they aren't all in the book.

Anyway, great review, thanks alot!

Takeo
February 10, 2008, 09:30 AM
Nice review as always. Oda knows how to do emotional flashbacks. I've been pretty neutral on Brooke joining - I think it's great that he is, but I would have understood if he didn't.



On a final note, my biggest reasoning against this was the fact that his dream lacks the same obstacles that the other Strawhat dreams do. For this I have still not come up with an explanation I’m fully happy with, but I trust that Oda will not let me down.

I personally never really felt that Brook's dream was an issue (his potential character growth is what worried me). Each of the SH's dreams are different, and not all of them have direct, physical obstacles to overcome. Nami and Franky have goals, for example, that primarily require just the journey (map-making and creating a "dream" ship that can sail to the end of the world). Luffy, Robin, and now Brooke each have defined goals they want to reach at the end of this adventure: One Piece for Luffy; the Rio Poneglyph for Robin; and Laboon for Brooke. Sanji and Chopper are looking for mythical/possibly nonexistent dreams: All Blue and a panacea that can cure all disease. Zoro and Usopp, to an extent, have dreams that are accomplished mainly through their personal growth on the journey. Brooke's dream shares the same inherent obstacle as the others' dreams, though, which is what connects them all together: the "impossible" task of sailing and surviving the Grand Line until the end.

sahugani
February 10, 2008, 04:03 PM
@Imitorar - in this case, the benifits of being wrong definately outweigh the costs, so i'm happy.

thanks for pointing that canonical reference out. it has been a damn long time since i've read through the Buggy arc or the Romance Dawn. and also, Romance Dawn has been scanlated by NULL. i've forgotten where i picked it up but i know its out there.

as for the theories, i like them alot too. however, as the Brooke matter seemed to prove, no matter how good my reasoning is for a theory, Oda finds a way to make what actually happens far better than what i predict.

@Takeo - well potential character growth is very closely tied to that worry over the dream's obsticles. one of the biggest factors in a character's growth is overcoming obsticles to their dream and this has been touched upon many times in the story. as you said, Brooke's obsticle is the impossible task of sailing the Grand Line and is sshared by all the crew members. my point was that all of the others have other impossible dreams beyond that while Brooke's other dream of meeting Laboon again lacks that impossibility. In any case, now that he's joining, i trust Oda to fix this little issue in a way ony he is skilled enough to pull off

also, one thing that i forgot to add in the review. now that the arc is over, we may get another look into the "Global Conflict" i mentioned in my last review. we've gotten one to three such chapters at the ends of nearly every major arc so far, so hopefully it happens again. with any luck we'll meet Akainu this time

Imitorar
February 10, 2008, 04:10 PM
Null scanlated Romance Dawn version 2, which was published in WANTED. Romance Dawn version 1 was a completely different oneshot published in the RED databook, which was never scanlated in English. Behold the vast stores of wisdom found on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_Dawn). I love that place.

sahugani
February 10, 2008, 04:13 PM
oh

thanks for clarifying that. well at least we have wiki

Absolutio
February 11, 2008, 11:19 AM
Well.. Excelent review! Might want to add a seperation or identifaction marks between the two chapters. :s really confused me.
Well, I only have one thing to say, about the Den Den Mushi.
Oda sensei said that the den den mushies are actually living telepathic snails, and if you notice, when someone speaks from them, the snail opens its mouth to speak as well, and it recieves the voice by a telephatic network that connects the snails :s. So I doubt that there's a tone dial involved, and I doubt that the den den mushies were only started to be used at vegapunk's era.

sahugani
February 11, 2008, 11:37 AM
added a seperation

was that den den mushi thing in an SBS or databook? if Oda has already made his statement on this then i guess thats that. however i still stand by the idea that the dials that fell from the sky are likely a large part of the world's technological breakthroughs

Absolutio
February 11, 2008, 04:46 PM
I'm not sure if it was in a SBS or an interview. I guess Imi knows better than me about it, and can even supply us the link. Go go go Imi-sama! :D

Did anyone ever wondered how is there a fridge onboard? :P Even if it's a ice-blocks fridge, how do they get fresh ice-blocks all the time if they have long journeys? :S

Imitorar
February 11, 2008, 08:00 PM
Nice to know you have so much faith in me, Absolutio. Really, it's just a matter of knowing how to use Wikipedia. Anyway,
D: Are the "Phone Snail" series animals, or machines?
O: They're animals. Insects.
Baby Phone Snail: Its small size makes it portable. However, its signals are weak, and cannot reach over the sea to another island.
Phone Snail: Too big to carry around, but its strength makes it useful for talking to far-off islands. Can also act as a fax machine if the accessory is attached.
Black Phone Snail(different species): They do not grow as they age. They enjoy eavesdropping, and dislike communicating with others. Used as listening devices, or "wiretaps".
O: Since being raised by humans gets them plenty of food, they don't mind being used and tamed. And here's a link to the SBS for volume 19. (http://arlongpark.net/Manga/SBS/19)So you see, they're animals, and the machine parts are added by humans. But that doesn't mean that the machine parts can't have been inspired by Dials.

Splat
February 11, 2008, 11:19 PM
Did anyone ever wondered how is there a fridge onboard? :P Even if it's a ice-blocks fridge, how do they get fresh ice-blocks all the time if they have long journeys? :S

attach waterwheels to the bottom of the ship that are turned by the sea as the ship moves, and use that as energy for fridge, cooking, hot showers etc, pretty sure that isn't out of franky's reach to be able to make that and it's the only plausible theory, other than solar panels which they clearly don't have

sahugani
February 12, 2008, 12:59 AM
@Absolutio - i think the power sources for the various appliances on the Sunny fall into the same catagory as Nami and Usopp's weapons coming from nowhere, Franky having full dexterity in his hands even though the fact that they detatch would clearly sever nerves, and the fact that pianos in perfect condiotion randomly appear for Brooke amongst complete wreckages. it would be somewhat ironic though if it was said to be cola powered like many of the ship's other functions. that would mean cola is powering the appliance that stores and chills the cola

@Imitorar - thanks alot for the link and quote man. also , you're right about the possibility that the mechanical parts could still fit into the theory

@Splat -that is clearly the most realistic theory, but i doubt we'll ever find out the truth and as it is Franky, there is a good chance that the real method is actually a wierder method

Absolutio
February 12, 2008, 04:47 AM
Well.. about the mechanical part. The den-den mushies have a button on their shell that's used to connect them to other mushies. And I thought of the option of the shell having a tone dial in it, but, when someone speaks through a den-den mushie, the den-den mushie itself speaks. So there's no tone dial there. And about the fax, that's something else.. =D

sahugani
February 12, 2008, 04:53 AM
i didn't mean that there are dials within the machinery. your evidence has cleared that up very well. what i meant to say is that the study of dials was used in the invention of such technologies

Absolutio
February 13, 2008, 06:29 PM
The chapter starts ten years after leaving Laboon and thus a bit less than seven years after leaving Yorki, Brooke is alone as a skeleton on the empty ship trying to entertain himself. As all he has are his memories, his only choice is to pretend those memories are real. For a moment he enjoys happiness with his revived nakama before realizing it is all a dream. Amazingly, despite the damage to the ship, the piano is still intact and he recalls the happiest moments of playing music alongside the crew. He remembers life after Yorki left. Although he was the new captain and the crew rode on a new ship, the Rumba pirates were still the same as they had ever been. It is revealed that in his time as captain, Brooke even got a bounty of his own. From the looks of it, I’d estimate that it is in the 20 million range, which is quite fitting I think. In terms of combat potential, he is weaker than most of the Strawhats though is still by no means a pushover. If you account for his increased speed as a skeleton and less vulnerability due to lack of flesh, you could say he’s more capable now than he was when he got the bounty. Even now though I’d rank his strength as below Franky’s. Add to this the fact that Usopp’s 30 million bounty was based very much on the act of shooting the World Government flag rather than his combat skill and it puts Brooke’s twenty something bounty in perspective as he is roughly the same as the sniper in power but lacks the same threat to the government.

If you look at the bottom left panel here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/488/05/ , you can clearly see a 9 partially hidden by the text bubble. So he either has 9m bounty or 90m. I go with the first. Back then, pirates weren't that threat for the WG, and the rumbas weren't hostile either. Also, if you consider inflation (:p), the currency of "now" is less than "then", so those 9m could be equal to 30-40m in nowadays standards... :p

sahugani
February 13, 2008, 07:03 PM
actually to me that looks like a 2 rather than a 9. most of the number is written in thin type, but to interpret that as a 9, that would mean the number's base is drawn pretty thick. its kinda hard to tell without Oda confirming, but to me it looks pretty clearly like a 2

Absolutio
February 13, 2008, 07:19 PM
you might be right! It's confusing, coz the "circle" of the upper part of the digit is "closed", so it gives the impression of 9, but also, the bottom part has the 2's tails. :s

Splat
February 13, 2008, 08:01 PM
If you look at the bottom left panel here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/488/05/ , you can clearly see a 9 partially hidden by the text bubble. So he either has 9m bounty or 90m. I go with the first. Back then, pirates weren't that threat for the WG, and the rumbas weren't hostile either. Also, if you consider inflation (:p), the currency of "now" is less than "then", so those 9m could be equal to 30-40m in nowadays standards... :p

that's a 2 for sure