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slifer619
March 22, 2006, 09:11 AM
Predictions are nowaday a bit lame considering OP.
It's inevitable that we either see Usopp/Zorro or Franky/Chopper  or Nami. And a bit of Luffy running around.


Yea you're right,The predictions for naruto are better.

SchmoDawg
March 22, 2006, 02:56 PM
I have a feeling now that Franky drank cola he's gonna defeat both Kumadori and Fukurou.  They probably are gonna show the nami fight this chapter, since there arent really any other fights besides Luffy and Lucci, which they might show confront each other.  I have a feeling that Sanji's not gonna be much help anymore either. 

How can you say Predicitions for Naruto are better :blink. That manga is so obvious they just throw attacks you cant or couldnt guess they'll use into a battle, and the characters they develop are so easy to read bad guy or good guy.  The only cliffhanger type thing lately has been Sai's picture book and who his brother is.  One piece is so much more original and hard to predict (like any of you saw a Giraffe devil's fruit.)  But I guess its lame cause 6 people's predicitions every single chapter dont say sasukes gonna show up at the end of the chapter.

*edit* read chapter 300 or Naruto and you'll see what I mean by predictable :tem

Gold Knight
March 23, 2006, 02:40 AM
I just found the time to read this chapter.

Well...although we did see some fighting (espcially with Franky) I noticed that it was again fun dominated.
Althought it it forms OP's charme I have hoped to see some serious parts again. :s


Well, it wasn't too long ago that we saw Robin's flashback, I think Oda is trying to counter that with some fun chapters now.

Enjoyed the chapter - although I still don't like the idea of Franky joining Luffy's crew, this was one of his more enduring moments :)

Watson
March 23, 2006, 03:05 AM
I don't want any more fun chapters really. I think that the arc is meant to be dark and should stay that way for the majourity of it, like all Oda's majour arcs.

venicia777
March 23, 2006, 03:44 PM
will franky be able to defeat kumadori and fukorouu alone!!! if he does i will be campaigning for him to join the crew every moment. Yup!! it is nami vs kalifa and usopp/zoro vs kaku - lets get it on.
although i expect a little bit from luffy finally catching up to lucci- i would just love to see the look on lucci's face when he faces luffy- that will be wonderful.

raptor02_2001
March 23, 2006, 08:29 PM
i know Luffy and Lucci will have last match after all match is over in future

but Usopp/ Zoro still run around??


hey Sanji come on your moment is need to shine!!

The Touch
March 24, 2006, 08:03 AM
ONE PIECE - 405 - Glorious HQ (http://yakitatejapan.net/onepiece/ONE%20PIECE%20-%20405.zip)

Hermie
March 24, 2006, 11:09 AM
<333333333333333333333333333[br]Posted at: March 24, 2006, 09:46:57 PM_________________________________________________Franky rocked even more this time! :dance

gto0o
March 24, 2006, 11:14 AM
One piece ep405 RAW (torrent) (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BRaw-Manga%5D%20One%20Piece%20405%20-%20Death%20Note%20102.torrent)

venicia777
March 24, 2006, 01:03 PM
ONE PIECE - 405 - Glorious HQ (http://yakitatejapan.net/onepiece/ONE%20PIECE%20-%20405.zip)
you are great!!! thanks very much. i almost thought there was gonna be no one piece this week- as we expected to happen last week.

SchmoDawg
March 24, 2006, 02:34 PM
I'm so pissed by the colorspread without franky, I really want him to be their new nakama. Good chapter though all in all, I was hoping they'd show at least a little bit of someone else's fight. Even though I really dont like Nami I wanna see her fight.

Hermie
March 24, 2006, 04:19 PM
The colorspread is an obvious reference to somthing, I wonder what...

EvilSniffles
March 25, 2006, 02:02 AM
it might be, but I still be nice to have franky somewhere in the spread, also nami's wasit has become nonexistant

Alexander Anderson
March 25, 2006, 02:59 AM
^ the colorspread came from Oda's omake from the OP logs.
The sidestories are scanlated by KEFI (http://www.kefi.org)
There are 3 of them:
1.) Report Time (http://www.kefi.org/forum/index.php?topic=385.0)
2.) Respect Time (http://www.kefi.org/forum/index.php?topic=391.0)
3.) ChopperMan (http://www.kefi.org/forum/index.php?topic=396.0)

Obviously the current colorspread came from the ChopperMan omake XD

Kickmeister
March 25, 2006, 12:17 PM
Holy sheet, I love that oh-so-badass look Franky has on the last page!

ramza85
March 26, 2006, 10:46 AM
for those who can understand chinese go to http://www.jojohot.com/ or http://jump.jojohot.com/ to get the HQ scan.. came out on friday..

venicia777
March 26, 2006, 04:44 PM
with a whole chapter almost exclusively devoted to franky- i cant help but think we are beentold he might be the next nakama of the crew. imagine franky and robin both on the same crew!! damn!! the world government will climb onto the mugiwara crews back for ever.


if franky joins the crew, what will happen to all his followers? if frankys nakama follow him then what kind of new ship will the team be having after this battle (i hope they all survive first). and who will build that ship- iceburg(galley la) and franky? hmm! i am shaking in my boots already :s

Miso
March 29, 2006, 03:47 AM
I wonder that this one wasn't yet created.... :o

In this chapter we see that Franky totally rocks.
Although I already did know that his body is like a machine I must say that I was surprised by his shoulder rockets...:rofl


What might happen next, one wonders?



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T0FFe3m@n
March 29, 2006, 12:11 PM
Hopefully we will some more of the Zoro/Sogeking battle this chapter. Im also interested in seeing what Nami can do about Kalifa..

Sissou
March 29, 2006, 01:03 PM
I think we will have the end of the fight with Franky and the also a see of the fight with Nami. I would like see the fight between Nami and Kalifa :hearts

Miso
March 29, 2006, 04:02 PM
Hopefully we will some more of the Zoro/Sogeking battle this chapter. Im also interested in seeing what Nami can do about Kalifa..


Yeah... it would be their turn again.
I'm still quite eager to see how the Zorro(/Sogeking combo will work. :rofl
I just can't imagine that it won't be ridiculously funny what we will see.

walkie
March 29, 2006, 08:02 PM
at this chapter, franky will finish his opponent somehow but i doubt the key they will get will be number two, the one for zoro and sogeking...zoro is a strong one so i guess he will run away for a while again :D

venicia777
March 29, 2006, 09:23 PM
hmm!!!! soo few responses- ahh!!! our OP forum is getting low patronage-

zoro will run away- that will be a sight to see. Hmm!! i expect to see something from kalifa and nami. What is nami going to do- can she really match up with a roku shiki user? with a devils fruit to boost? God help nami- i would be surprised if she can really hold her own- probably it might inspire sanji to overcome his weakness of women-(i know that will never happen- i like to see him go so weakly kneed when he sees women- his faces are just hilarious).
anyways- we may also see Luffy finally meet up with Lucci-

Gold Knight
March 30, 2006, 02:36 AM
I'm getting more used to the Franky character now, and it does seem as if Oda is preparing him to be a new cast member of the Strawhats *sighs*

Oh well. I think Oda will jump from Franky's fight to Chopper's fight and perhaps Nami's fight in the next chapter though.

Raijatsu
March 30, 2006, 12:07 PM
I want mor from the kalifa & Nami fight after Franky got rid of Fukuru!
Her Devil Powers are quite interesting

SchmoDawg
March 30, 2006, 07:41 PM
I'm predicting its the long awaited Nami/Kalifa fight. Zoro's cuffs are gonna be the key Franky gets from Fukurou so I doubt that Sogeking/Zoro will fight this chapter. Kalifa Deffinately has the key for Robins cuffs. (2% chance for some suprise like Lucci actually has it)

Galth
March 30, 2006, 07:59 PM
I thinks Kaku has the number one key ... since he's the second strongest.... and he's a frikkin Giraffe :D he's awesome :D

nolink
March 31, 2006, 01:35 AM
Oda is rumored to be sick. i know it from jojohot, the chinese scanlators. the news isn't confirmed. so 406 might still be out

Gold Knight
March 31, 2006, 05:48 AM
Yeah, we got info about that too. Was the info with chapter 406 or 405? If it's 405, then we might not see 406 for quite a while. =/

venicia777
March 31, 2006, 04:09 PM
Yeah, we got info about that too.  Was the info with chapter 406 or 405?  If it's 405, then we might not see 406 for quite a while.  =/
oh boy!!! oh boy!! so no Manga this week!!!! probably-eh!!! this week will surely be incomplete. I hope his sickness isnt serious

Hermie
March 31, 2006, 04:34 PM
I added a little sumthin' sumthin' for you guys in the first post. ^__^

shinwei
March 31, 2006, 04:43 PM
Hmm, let's see... Franky and Fukurou are still hanging. Can Oda leave them hanging there for a whole chapter while focusing on other people? I don't think so, so the conclusion of that fight (or at least them getting out of the air) is a must in chapter 406. It will either happen at the very beginning or the very end of the chapter. Next, I think that Nami and Kalifa are going to start fighting, and some scenes of Chopper vs. Kumadori will be shown. Zoro and Sogeking are still running around and we won't see much of them this chapter. Finally, either at the end of 406 or the end of 407, we will see Luffy finally catch up to Robin and we'll have a cliffhanger.

Hermie
March 31, 2006, 04:49 PM
I disagree about the last part, because Oda always likes to get the smaller fights finished before Luffy makes his entrè. ^__^

venicia777
April 01, 2006, 05:54 PM
HEY- EVERYONE!!! i just found a 406 manga in rar on www.tokyotosho.com, but it needs a password to open the rar file- so it looks like ONE PIECE 406 actually came out.

i hope it is not somebody pulling an april fools gig :mad

shinwei
April 01, 2006, 06:15 PM
HEY- EVERYONE!!! i just found a 406 manga in rar on www.tokyotosho.com, but it needs a password to open the rar file- so it looks like ONE PIECE 406 actually came out.

i hope it is not somebody pulling an april fools gig :mad


The password is "prawn" and its just an April Fool's gig. Its just a picture of some prawns.

By the way... to check for new manga releases use www.mangaupdates.com - which is the most complete release finder ever.

venicia777
April 01, 2006, 06:22 PM
yeah!! i looked in the source of the file and got directed to this site where they sold stuff like shrimps,prawns, etc. And realized too late that it was a prank- i am glad i gave the warning though.

I just hope Oda gets well soon. We need to see Luffy and Lucci finally just meet face to face.

EvilSniffles
April 05, 2006, 02:47 AM
406 predicition, we shall see both the fight b/w chopper ahd hair dude, and the end of the franky fight. MAYBE a glimpse of nami kalif fight or the zoro/sogeking fight

ketwaroo
April 06, 2006, 08:21 AM
how about Pluton?

luffy will need a really tough ship now. They'll have a bounty of at least 100 billion on each one of them [even the sogeking!!!] after this episode.

Franky had the blueprints with him all the time. He could build Pluton for the Straw hats.
and maybe the guy with the Knotty techniques [the guy from galley la, ropes and stuff] will join the Crew. with Nami and Robin abord that should be funny with his aversion to "undecently' dressed women.

raptor02_2001
April 06, 2006, 08:57 PM
i already seen some spoiler from NF forum for OP 406 but it is not enough to detail but

Zoro and Sogeking will there in that chapter

SchmoDawg
April 06, 2006, 11:01 PM
i already seen some spoiler from NF forum for OP 406 but it is not enough to detail but

Zoro and Sogeking will there in that chapter


yeah they are in the next chapter

The Touch
April 07, 2006, 09:26 AM
ONE PIECE - 406 (http://home.exetel.com.au/battle_franky/index.html/Franky%20House/ONE%20PIECE%20-%20406.zip)

Enjoy!

Vaizard
April 07, 2006, 09:33 AM
Thanks, The Touch. You're the man as usual. :)

Gold Knight
April 07, 2006, 10:18 AM
Busy morning for The Touch!

I'll upload that one as well. Thanks Touch :)

EDIT: Hosted by MH: One Piece 406 LQ RAW (http://dl.mangahelpers.com/manga/raws/One-Piece/One_Piece_ch406_LQ_RAW.zip)

SchmoDawg
April 07, 2006, 10:30 AM
The touch, you released it like an hour before I go to work, you made my day:smile-big

Hermie
April 07, 2006, 10:47 AM
Thanks! ^__^



I love the Sogekatana, as well as Franky's ownage of Fukuro. :D

Miso
April 07, 2006, 11:22 AM
Thank you very much, The Touch!

deadgamer
April 07, 2006, 01:35 PM
mmm, any translations yet?

---EDIT---
Nyways, im starting the cleaning now but the quality is horrible so expect the release to take some more time than usual

billion bruce lees
April 07, 2006, 03:04 PM
wow one piece is off the chain again

SchmoDawg
April 07, 2006, 05:27 PM
Zoro is gonna kill both of them in a couple swings now that he's using the sogeking katana, as long as Usopp doesn't move. Franky won too, he's deffinately a straw hat. They are really drawing out showing Kalifa's fruit I bet they don't show it till Zoro/Soge and Chopper are both done. :darn

Hermie
April 07, 2006, 05:56 PM
!Attention! Important line from Oceanizer.


Oh no, CHOPPER!!! (He can't control which point to use because it's his second ramble ball...)

EvilSniffles
April 07, 2006, 05:58 PM
meh, I thought he can take two rumble balls and 3 is where it gets dangerous.

shinwei
April 07, 2006, 06:33 PM
He can only take one Rumble Ball every 6 hours or else there's bad side effects. So he took the 2nd and now he can't control it very well.

SchmoDawg
April 07, 2006, 09:43 PM
Does Kumadori have a devil's fruit??? I mean he is using shigan with his hair/hands, so I figure he has an ability.

Mogeking
April 07, 2006, 10:25 PM
I find the Sogekatana to be both uber-cool and slightly disturbing :darn is Zoro's Hand all up in Usopp-kun's bootay???? EWWWWW!!
that is all I have to impart in the realm of Opinion... :barf :modsmack

Hermie
April 07, 2006, 11:48 PM
That would be very odd, since their hand is connected at the wrists...


It looks like Sogeking is holding his arms in towards his body, one over the other, like so:




| <-katana
|
---o <-Soge's arm
o--- <-Soge's arm
o--- <-Zoro's arm


Then he is connected to Zoro with the lower hand, and holding the katana in the upper, so, just acting like an extention of the sword.
Also, Zoro is holding onto Soge's shash to support the weight.

billion bruce lees
April 08, 2006, 02:23 AM
i'm actually foaming at the mouth about gear 3, oh, and franky's a total badass. woot, woot

Hermie
April 08, 2006, 04:20 PM
Woah, Franky kicked Fukoru's ass! Chopper, in the meantime, are having some trouble, since he ate the second rumble ball, and Kumadori is turning more and more freakish every minute. Zoro and Sogeking are trying desperatly to come up with new tactics.


Will Fukoru have the right key? Can Chopper control his forms? Will the Sogekatana be a success? Are Nami and Kalifa secretly having wild make-outs while we aren't looking?



Find 406 stuff over here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=2376.0)

EDIT by Khal: Raw out! Check the R/T/S thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3036.0) ;)


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My own predicition? it's right here! (http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?iwlqad1fn68w)

SchmoDawg
April 08, 2006, 06:14 PM
I bet theres some wild make outs :smile-big haha I figure Chopper will figure out some kind of way to control his points during this fight so that he wont have to use rumble balls anymore, I also think they'll show Zoro and his Usopp sword.

Mogeking
April 08, 2006, 06:53 PM
is it possible that chopper will find a new transformation because he cannot control them?? something like a Hoof Point where his hooves become like really long and sharp like Kuros katana fingers....then he could cut Kumadori's psychic hair. BTW One Piece manva v.2 on msn has a LQ scanlation out...here http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-2 it explains the whole crazy hair thing on Kumadori too.. :noworry

billion bruce lees
April 08, 2006, 07:30 PM
thank you just read it and it looks like it's over for chopper, kinda scary thought

EvilSniffles
April 09, 2006, 12:20 PM
what if, he learns how to use the points, and he uses the rumble ball to power up those points ie like gears that luffy does.

venicia777
April 09, 2006, 12:57 PM
thank you just read it and it looks like it's over for chopper, kinda scary thought
no! no!! it cant be over!! our doctor to die- even if he cant fight himself somebody will definately rescue him somehow. Otherwise he needs to go to a new level. The doctor cant die- who is going to take care of all the injured- this guy has soo much work to do after this encounter-

come on chopper kun- do something before you die!!!! oriaaaaaa!!!

zumb1e
April 09, 2006, 01:12 PM
I think that Chopper will do a miracle and win alone (main character power/mangaka buffs =p)by learning how to use the forms without the rumble ball or just focusing and being able to use his form with the second ball, because franky cant do anything to help him now (he used all/almost all off his bottles of cola) and everyone are busy trying to dont get theys own asses kiked, so i think that we'll see the end of chopper battle  and nami and kallifa doing some wild make-outs =P

billion bruce lees
April 09, 2006, 01:50 PM
i guess this is where chopper goes to the next level of beast fruit users and gets his badass on

walkie
April 09, 2006, 06:34 PM
""remember soge king. dont break your posture..you are a..katana!""

damn this was funny :D i think it will be very very funny...i cant wait for it...

El Fazo
April 09, 2006, 06:38 PM
ok here's what i think might happen next :
Chopper, though he has already improved a lot being soooo brave now, is in deep trouble so he will need to come up with a new move and Usopp's help
I'm sure that Nami will kick Kalifa nice ass and take her down by her self for humiliating Sanji and because she had been defeated by Kumadori
Zoro ans Usopp will try to face Kaku and Jabura but they can't win this way
maybe Jabura will get off and let Zoro fight Kaku 1 on 1 as real sword men, then meet Sanji who would kick his ass
maybe Fukrou has the key #2 then Usopp could go help Chopper
when all those CP9 are down we will enjoy the ultimate clash : Luffy The Pirate vs Lucci The Carpenter

anyway Oda-sensei (may he live eternally) doesn't need to prove anymore his great skill to always surprise his readers so who knows ?

billion bruce lees
April 09, 2006, 08:33 PM
that katana aims by itself, runs by itself, takes potshots at the enemy by itself..throws explosives. damn i want one

Zoolooman
April 09, 2006, 09:22 PM
thank you just read it and it looks like it's over for chopper, kinda scary thought


Every time a Straw Hat faces a nigh undefeatable enemy, he or she invents a new technique by inspiration, innovation, or luck. In this case, I believe Chopper will be inspired by Kumadori's complete body-control. He will create a technique which allows him to reach--at least temporarily--full control of his Devil Fruit powers. This will allow him to control his transformations during this fight, and eventually I believe it will allow him to transform into the various points without a rumble ball.

nolink
April 10, 2006, 03:07 PM
then say no more to rumble ball?

billion bruce lees
April 10, 2006, 04:41 PM
how's it going to lead to that though the way they left it, it looks like he was clocking out.

tonitoniluffy
April 10, 2006, 10:09 PM
Hermie i love your prediction !! its fantastic

nolink
April 11, 2006, 02:06 AM
repeated situation in skypiea?

chopper knocked out by ohm then someone else to the rescue?

Bocalt
April 12, 2006, 09:40 AM
What's interesting to note is that Oda has (after 10 years of One Piece) reached the usual fighting shonen part equivalent to the chunnin exam of Naruto, the rescue of Rukia from Soul Society(Bleach), or the initial sanctuary chapter of Saint seiya.... introduction of alot of characters, initial bad guys which turn into allies, emergence of new powers for the main character(s),etc...

venicia777
April 12, 2006, 11:52 AM
repeated situation in skypiea?

chopper knocked out by ohm then someone else to the rescue?
that is what i was expecting- at least- i am expecting something similar. This guy kumadori has already given it to nami. He is no walkover. Unless somebody like Sanji (i wonder if he is engaged now) comes to the rescue- it is high time chopper gets something new cooking- a new move maybe.

venicia777
April 12, 2006, 11:58 AM
Chopper- new powers- he better. We need the doctor alive all the time even if all the others get injured. and he needs to get stronger to be able todefend himself. One Piece has been running for so long- will there be a change here- like somebody of the crew dies/ Hmm never. I was soo amazed franky beat his opponent soo easily. anyways next chapter will give a preview of namis fight against Kalifa, a preview of luffys meeting with Lucci and Robin. And MORE of chopper getting whopped real good before gettting help or stronger.

Hermie
April 12, 2006, 04:20 PM
Meh, in Skypeia, Chopper had already defeated his opponent, so Oda needed to put him out of play for the duration of the fights. Chopper hasn't really done anything useful in this entire arc.

EvilSniffles
April 12, 2006, 10:00 PM
bahahahah nice prediction hermie

Brede
April 12, 2006, 11:06 PM
Is Gear 3 mebe a version of the Shigan move? i.e. the bad guys concentrate all their force into one point and use the finger like a bullet. So, Luffy concentrates his whole body into a smaller (n younger) more compact body and then he releases his whole power in one punch. Resulting in a muuuuUUUUUUCh more powerful punch :blink

EvilSniffles
April 12, 2006, 11:17 PM
no he became small after the punch to the iron wall. but then he started to become normal sized after a few minutes.

Brede
April 12, 2006, 11:26 PM
Zoro has said to Nami that all of them has gotten stonger. SO, i think this Chopper v Bad Hair day guy would be the perfect chance for Chopper to 'show' how he has improved. Sogeking will probably shoot a Hot & spicy pepper bomb pellet into wolfman's nose which will completely overwhelm his super sensitive sense of smell (being a wolf and all) and thus defeat him (aka Naruto's fart during the chunnin exam). Kalifa's DF power seems to be the ability to turn things or ppl into glass. So Nami will blast Kalifa into tiny smithereens with a thunder bolt. :p

Having said that...I agree with Bocalt...these fights does remind one of the chunnin/Rescue Sasuke fight scenes

The Boff
April 12, 2006, 11:32 PM
Are Nami and Kalifa secretly having wild make-outs while we aren't looking?

i hope so....

nah seriously... next week we'll hopefully see chopper kick some serious ass! and im veeeeery
curious about the sogetana, imagine zoro trying to do a tech with that.. could look very cool
or just extremely goofy. both are good so thats nice. xD

radicalbyte
April 13, 2006, 08:37 AM
I don't think this ark is particularly different to the previous arc's as regards the fights. Feels like it's at the mid-arblasa stage..

My longterm guess would be that the Strawhat Pirates' will learn something serious about the World Government during this arc, a bit more than the evilness of the marines/WG. It'll all link together with the Golden Age of Pirates, and the mysterious D. characters and the "missing history". Which will all result in the SHP's quest moving away from "One Piece" towards fighting the evil World Government......

As for the next chapter.... I'd like to see both Sogeking/Usopp and Chopper have a power-up: Usopp particularly, he should be able to fight with his ingenuity not raw strength (as per his fight vs Luffy).

gambard
April 13, 2006, 09:41 AM
Was that a sideeffect?

darobertz
April 13, 2006, 01:12 PM
hmmm.....the top bar says that the raw is out but i can't find it anywhere:S. Anyway, looking forward to this chapter, want to know what the hell choppers doing....

Galth
April 13, 2006, 01:14 PM
Sorry, my bad -_-; it isn't yet...

SchmoDawg
April 13, 2006, 03:37 PM
I was thinking about my earlier post about chopper learning to use the points,
but what if somehow he got defeated and his rumble balls fell into the hands of CP9??? Seriously though imagine Kaku eating a rumble ball. It probably won't happen but it'd cool :tem

billion bruce lees
April 13, 2006, 05:40 PM
drooling from mouth, must see gear 3

ketwaroo
April 13, 2006, 07:43 PM
ever notice how they always kick ass. i mean, unless it a really big badass baddie like Crocodile, Luffy always wins. They all always kick ass especially zoro. THAT GIRAFFE IS PWNED!

meh, chopper won't die. he can't die, he's the ship doctor and the only specimen of blue nosed talking reindeer in the universe. Or maybe like the giraf dude, he'll exploit his devil fruit to its fullest and transform into a full man. and get his ass kicked even more... humans are weak....

The Touch
April 14, 2006, 05:30 AM
ONE PIECE - 407 (http://home.exetel.com.au/battle_franky/index.html/Franky%20House/ONE%20PIECE%20-%20407.zip)

Enjoy!

Galth
April 14, 2006, 07:11 AM
Will Fukoru have the right key? Can Chopper control his forms? Will the Sogekatana be a success? Are Nami and Kalifa secretly having wild make-outs while we aren't looking?


Looks like you were right with that last line XD XD XD

Kalifa taking a bath was a great moment of w00tness!

The Boff
April 14, 2006, 07:17 AM
ok... that was weird... why the hell did she take a bath???? its like all out war and she feels dirty or what?
hey im not complaining im just not understanding...

anyway... CHOPPER??? KICK ASS! what was that? all his forms in one? i need a translation.
i need to learn japanese. this was in my eyes a greeeeaaaat chapter. and so far ive only watched the pictures...

Galth
April 14, 2006, 07:19 AM
Hehe, true,

and she took a bath because she thinks ( knows? ) that she could completely pwn Nami anyway, so she didn't finish her off when she knocked her unconscious...

The Boff
April 14, 2006, 07:24 AM
yeah she is a little overconfident... but show us her fruitpower already.

Galth
April 14, 2006, 07:33 AM
Wasn't her fruit power the 'turning kicking cooks into glass mannequins' attack?

venicia777
April 14, 2006, 09:36 AM
Hehe, true,

and she took a bath because she thinks ( knows? ) that she could completely pwn Nami anyway, so she didn't finish her off when she knocked her unconscious...

eehhh!!! i thought nami had no chance- o h boy- that sure is good. i like it when one of these guys get pawned (thank heavens they wont die though). i like Kalifa's sauciness. i hope she doesnt get it in the back- this is nami we talking about here.

jabbament
April 14, 2006, 09:58 AM
That's some funky "Point" that Chopper transformed into...I hope they show the rest of his fight next week.

shugo
April 14, 2006, 10:16 AM
That's some funky "Point" that Chopper transformed into...I hope they show the rest of his fight next week.


Im starting to think that its more an "angry big reindeer" point.....

Galth
April 14, 2006, 12:08 PM
"Golem Point" anyone :Grin

Anyway, it sure rocks, :faint
I wonder what kind of powers it has, at least chopper is now too large for Kumadori to catch him with his hair easily...

EvilSniffles
April 14, 2006, 01:36 PM
touch the link is dead ;_; got the raw from MH link in raw section

And his new form....I think....he ate the 3rd rumble ball if you look at page 11 the 6th panel counting from left to right, you can see chopper pop something into his mouth. all the emotions he had from that female doctor and about robin must have caused him to stay conscious when he took the 3rd one.

Hermie
April 14, 2006, 05:32 PM
Great friggin chapter!!



Loving the fanservice. :D

emlan
April 14, 2006, 06:14 PM
This is one of my favorite chapters in a long time, and none of my favorite characters are in it!
I can't get over how cool Chopper look in his monster gear. So excited over the upcomming wall smashing <3

Poor Nami though, getting eyefull of Karifas beautiful naked body...such...uh, torture.

EvilSniffles
April 14, 2006, 08:14 PM
now after reading a translation of it I wonder how badass his new form is....it like destroyed a whole village!

The Boff
April 14, 2006, 08:19 PM
now after reading a translation of it I wonder how badass his new form is....it like destroyed a whole village!

im right with you dude...

is someone else having a naruto4tail and chouji soldierpills flashback? there are a lot of similarities in this
situation...

Galth
April 14, 2006, 08:25 PM
Poor Nami though, getting eyefull of Karifas beautiful naked body...such...uh, torture.


Yeah, she can see her own shortcomings clearly now :ebisunb

EvilSniffles
April 14, 2006, 11:56 PM
im right with you dude...

is someone else having a naruto4tail and chouji soldierpills flashback? there are a lot of similarities in this
situation...

yeah you could say that with the 4 tail and the soldier pill....and for some reason most mangas have a situation like that i.e. berserk when the helmet comes over his head - game over for the person he fights.

venicia777
April 15, 2006, 06:29 PM
if you remember those of naruto4tail u know he had regeneration- if u remember choujis u know he almost died. With the way he looked in the flashback it is a point he shouldnt get to- like a last resort (just as in Choujis). i am quite afraid for this guy- what if he ends up hurting hiimself irreversibly- or hurting one of his team mates who happen to get into the room.
i guess it looks like he took a 3rd rumble ball to get that far- i was hoping for a new change but this one gives me the chills

Galth
April 15, 2006, 06:54 PM
You guys probably have figured this out before, but i dont have the time to check:
it's about the handcuff keys:
Jaburou(sp?) + Kaku do NOT have key 2
Fukurou(sp?) had key 4 ( franky obtained it after the fight )
Kumadori had key 3 ( nami stole it )
which only leaves Kalifa :) ownership confirmed :)

Which automatically makes one of Jaburou and Kaku's keys the number one key :)

EDIT: ok, nevermind, i hadn't read the translation yet -_-;;;

billion bruce lees
April 15, 2006, 07:02 PM
if you remember those of naruto4tail u know he had regeneration- if u remember choujis u know he almost died. With the way he looked in the flashback it is a point he shouldnt get to- like a last resort (just as in Choujis). i am quite afraid for this guy- what if he ends up hurting hiimself irreversibly- or hurting one of his team mates who happen to get into the room.
i guess it looks like he took a 3rd rumble ball to get that far- i was hoping for a new change but this one gives me the chills
i agree completely, this form gives me the chills, like it scares me, about the same level as 4tailed naru/ kyuubi

my heart feels hollow, dread!, that's the word i was looking for

Galth
April 15, 2006, 08:38 PM
HQ scanlation by Chikusho OUT NOW!
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3077.0

Lohnt
April 15, 2006, 10:08 PM
I understand that this a partly Naruto manga site, however I don't think the comparison between the Kyuubi and Rumble 3 is accurate.

Naruto (as well as various other animes that use this) have a demon locked inside of the child/hero at birth/some point in their lives/after defeating a demon blah blah.

Choppers ability came through forced transformation, by his rumble balls which change his body's fiber. The closest comparison I can think of is with Beast boy (teen titans) when he is given the beast transformation. The third rumble ball seems to transcend Choppers ability to keep up with his transformation, and his hume hume fruit which gave him the human mind no longer keeps up with his animalistic form.

I'm just saying this because there doesn't seem to be any reason for chopper to have an inner demon in him, he was just another reindeer before he ate the hito hito fruit.

EvilSniffles
April 16, 2006, 01:14 AM
the comparison was more to the point of a last resort weapon...the fox tail is brought out by the need to live, if he dies so does the fox, and is it the hume hume fruit or the hito hito fruit?

Lohnt
April 16, 2006, 01:48 AM
I thought it was the Hume Hume fruit, but I've found it called Hito Hito.. I don't know, as long as you understand that context that's all that matters X_x

walkie
April 16, 2006, 12:09 PM
finally we will see something from chopper..he was weak for devil fruit user and i was waiting for this moment, a secret power by chopper...

by the way..why isnt there 408 prediction thread yet?

Galth
April 16, 2006, 12:16 PM
Ok WaLkiE :p Here it is:

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3036.0 <-- every Ch407 thingemajig you wanna have! Easter B. seems to have dropped these :knk

Anyway, what do you think will happen?
How will Chopper completely pwn manage to defeat Kumadori... Yoyoi?
Will Nami ( and Franky? ) be able to obtain the number two key from Kaw00tliw00tfa? And how exactly does her power work? Will there be another bathtub scene? :wtf

Spam away!

Just an expression, who spams will be "sent flying with my fist"!



_______________


Edit by Hermie:
After a very long wait, this chapter is finally out, grab it here: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3292.0 :dance

vlado
April 16, 2006, 12:44 PM
*Another one from me :)*"I'l send them flying with a kick , from chp 260*.
Well i predict that Kowafa's power is to make horny kicking chefs people into glass manequines with her vagina feet.
It's also posible that Nami deafeted her with the Lighting Tempo , beacause she was rubing herself washing in the water.
I predict chopper killing the lilttle grean bieach the lion with a new form atack.

kokotas
April 16, 2006, 01:51 PM
As we show her devil's fruit ability is related to glass so she could as well survive unharmed nami's thunder tempo... :p

jabbament
April 16, 2006, 03:20 PM
finally we will see something from chopper..he was weak for devil fruit user and i was waiting for this moment, a secret power by chopper...

Weak for a devil fruit user? Well, c'mon, he WAS a reindeer that ate a fruit and turned him into a human...can't really get awesome powers from a normal human. All of the other Devil Fruits users were humans who became animals, and the animal characteristics make them more powerful...for Chopper, the human fruit gave him his transformations, made him smarter, and let him speak human language (or so I gather...not sure what other "powers" he could get from a human, ya know?)

All in all, it was a cool chapter. I hope they show more of his fight next week. :P

(Oh, and off topic: but for anyone who watches the anime...doesn't his new voice suck? Why the heck did they change the voice actors?)

ltphil
April 16, 2006, 04:25 PM
the new voice actor seems to be the same as pikatchu... :cussing

and for choppers human powers.....he's got "thumbs" (the ultimate human abbility) ;)


and for the chapter 408.....i hope nami beat up this cp9 chick.....(kalifa sucks) ;)

Lohnt
April 16, 2006, 04:25 PM
by the way..why isnt there 408 prediction thread yet?


Everyone's still taking in Ch 407... Chopper's the hulk, nude Kalifa, Perfect Clima tact... and umm Franky was there too ^^

ltphil
April 16, 2006, 04:29 PM
when will the new jump be released???

wednesday...friday???

to overcome the waiting time i hope they post the ep262 of the op anime tonight.....(the raw of course).....
(the translation will take some time....

EvilSniffles
April 16, 2006, 05:34 PM
the raw is usually out on thursday EST and usually finds it way here by touch and a few others ( who I can't rem. atm) on friday or saturday.....thursday is when we usually go nuts for it >D

EvilSniffles
April 16, 2006, 05:39 PM
chopper will demolish the yoiyoi bugger and go on a rampage....I think somehow franky will get caught up in it since he has to go by there maybe. let the havoc reign! oh yeah kalifa is alive most likely....maybe behind nami about to fondle her >_>...hey it could happen xD

Brede
April 17, 2006, 12:33 AM
I tot Kalifa's DF was glass related as well..but why didn't sanji crack or splinter when he fell from the upper floor if he was turned into a glass dummy? Apart from the fact that this is Manga-verse of course :smile-big And it doesn't seem to explain how she immobilized Nami's legs and sapped her energy. any ideas anyone?

n yeah, Chopper is so gonna squash that annoying Yoyoi ! Go Chopper!

Miso
April 17, 2006, 05:23 AM
Wow. I just read the chapter. Very good in my point of view.
Chopper's fight was so moving.... :crying but then he totally rocked! :o I was stunned. It was too cool!
Hehe...and then Kalifa in her bathtube. She is so eeeevil - making fun of her opponents! But how was she able to stun Nami? As I understood she wasn't able to move because Kalifa did something to her.
Her DF power seems to be something like making plastic out of her opponents - but Nami wasn't a puppet like Sanji. So what did Kalifa do?

EvilSniffles
April 17, 2006, 05:24 AM
the effects wore off most likely.

Miso
April 17, 2006, 05:25 AM
I agree. Chopper will definitely rampage. It is said that he lost conciousness when taking a 3d rumble ball and that he couldn't differ betwenn enemy and friend and destroyed the whole area. So I'm quite confident that he will go beserk.

As for Kalifa and Nami: I think Kalifa will be surprised by Nami's attack. It is obvious that she has underestimated her opponent. Although it will be very tough I predict that Nami will win in the end.

walkie
April 17, 2006, 07:10 AM
Weak for a devil fruit user? Well, c'mon, he WAS a reindeer that ate a fruit and turned him into a human...can't really get awesome powers from a normal human. All of the other Devil Fruits users were humans who became animals, and the animal characteristics make them more powerful...for Chopper, the human fruit gave him his transformations, made him smarter, and let him speak human language (or so I gather...not sure what other "powers" he could get from a human, ya know?)

i dont remember exaclty which chapter it was but, i guess it was during or after they met ice-man of marines, power of devil fruit is limited to you, it is how you use it..thats why sand-man and ice-man where very powerful :D and luffy found a way, gear second, why not chopper can get powerful than this, althouh it is human fruit?

ltphil
April 17, 2006, 08:58 AM
chopper just went into godmode :p

it was so touching.....they do everythimg for their nakama......

oda is a friggin genius

-zenith-
April 17, 2006, 10:31 AM
Well I think Chopper will kick ass all over the place and Franky will probably have to try and stop him. But I’m hoping that Sanji will recover soon and final be able to kick some ass (don’t think it will happen unfortunately).

venicia777
April 17, 2006, 12:39 PM
i dont remember exaclty which chapter it was but, i guess it was during or after they met ice-man of marines, power of devil fruit is limited to you, it is how you use it..thats why sand-man and ice-man where very powerful :D and luffy found a way, gear second, why not chopper can get powerful than this, althouh it is human fruit?

yeah!! i get what you are saying- but compare a human with a brain getting the gomi fruit (luffy) and an animal getting human abilities (chopper)- u see? such would most likely limit choppers powers as compared to others even if he trains physically. as at now he used the rumble ball to enhance his fighting capabilities (partly because he is a scientist)- otherwise he coulda been really weak.

Now back to kalifa and Nami- i think by that time Kalifa had finished bathing her techniques efffects on Nami had had time to decrease or wear off. So we may probably see what that ability is in the chapters to come.

i am still afraid for chopper- although it looks awesome i am still worried for the reindeer.

kokotas
April 17, 2006, 02:01 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping to see something from Sanji as well...I really feel sorry for him :oh

venicia777
April 17, 2006, 06:08 PM
yup!!! after all his great moves to save franky and usopp--- he reaaly underperformed so far. it looks even chopper is fighting better than sanji now. so i expect a continuation of the chopper fight. As well as going back to where we left off from namis encounter.
sanji and franky- one of them may blunder into choppers path and get it real good in the gut. luffy finally will catch up to lucci

billion bruce lees
April 17, 2006, 06:14 PM
i think kalifa ate the sexy, sexy fruit

ltphil
April 17, 2006, 07:08 PM
with the sexy sexy fruit......no men could harm her......

but then i think of all the pirate "ladies".....and then it would just be a good but not ultimate power.....

venicia777
April 17, 2006, 07:33 PM
i hope u dont mean that Kalifa's fruit is that- really-, u are joking right? the lady turns all her enemies irrespective of sex or interest in her (at least we know NAMI doesnt have anything but something close to animosity towards her right now) into something of the sort we fully dont know yet (except that those at the end of it become like glass). so i am expecting it to be quite powerful.
even if people think her devils fruits power is weak to some extent- she is still strong- she is probably the most powerful female we have seen so far apart from Robin (i doubt even that robin would have easy against her). Go Kalifa- kick namis bahind.
i just want one on the team to get really beat and then gets saved in the nick of time- that is what keeps me hanging and interested.

billion bruce lees
April 17, 2006, 09:26 PM
pools of drool for gear 3, sanji actually fights somebody...sakoge katana!!

The Boff
April 18, 2006, 06:17 AM
oda is a friggin genius


you are so right, it actually hurts

near
April 18, 2006, 12:20 PM
kalifa did eat the sexy sexy fruit. and she turned sanji into a blo-up doll.

ltphil
April 18, 2006, 12:30 PM
kalifa did eat the sexy sexy fruit. and she turned sanji into a blo-up doll.


i do believe that the japanese audience likes a little sex now and then....but a blow up doll????

that would be too much porn like...

Sentou Ryoku
April 19, 2006, 08:53 PM
Since Chopper's busted out the whole 3 rumble balls mode, would it be far-fetched to say that his fight's turning into the Chouji vs Jiroubou equivalent in One Piece? That or Kishimoto ripped off Oda's idea about taking pills for power ups...

=S=

EvilSniffles
April 19, 2006, 09:32 PM
Since Chopper's busted out the whole 3 rumble balls mode, would it be far-fetched to say that his fight's turning into the Chouji vs Jiroubou equivalent in One Piece? That or Kishimoto ripped off Oda's idea about taking pills for power ups...

=S=



which occured first? also, the mangaka could be best friends and asked if he can used that idea...I don't think anyone thinks of that though

Roocketman
April 20, 2006, 07:29 AM
Chopper will carve up that Yoyoi!-guy with a single blow and Luffy will reach Lucci,also see something of franky trying to stop ..em...Chopper? Shit he's sooooooo big,it's not chopper!It's ozharu chopper!

Hermie
April 20, 2006, 11:30 AM
Ok, here's what I figure for the next few chapters...



Chopper and Nami will both win their fight, one of the winners so far will then run of with the #2 key, while Sanji and/or the rest calms Chopper down.
Luffy of course will fight Lucchi and kick his ass good.

Galth
April 20, 2006, 12:24 PM
Who will take care of Spandam? Even though he has a lowly 8 (??) douriki, he still has a Devil Fruit animal/weapon to fight with, which cannot be underestimated... Options: Franky ( comes to save the day because Luffy can't handle two opponents? ), Sanji ( needs a new match! Sanji is by far the coolest character around and he will not end this arc with only getting his ass kicked by Kalifa to show the reader that Nami isn't as weak as we think... then again, he did singlehandedly almost wipe out the entire train, two cipher pol captain and some weirdo's on the justice gate island already... ), or perhaps SogeKing? (it's his arc for a part, and he is able to kick ass without having to act like a Funkfreed-style living weapon :p )

Franky vs Spandam would be the best option, considering their past...

Kickmeister
April 20, 2006, 12:59 PM
Sogeking vs Kaku ?
Who is left for Sanji anyway?

Strawhat_4491
April 21, 2006, 12:35 PM
I think chopper will go berserk and will probably have to fight Franky. For nami and Kalifa they will nami will probably figure out her power and use the climatact to defeat her.

EvilSniffles
April 21, 2006, 03:45 PM
bahahahah my predictions came thru

Hermie
April 21, 2006, 05:25 PM
:drool











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^___^




Also, I loved how instead finally being beaten by the ultimate-attack-which-takes all-the-remaining-power, Kumadori simply got tossed around like a little doll. :D[br]Posted at: April 22, 2006, 04:00:55 AM_________________________________________________http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/herminator64/bukkakecaptionOP.gif

venicia777
April 21, 2006, 06:21 PM
wow!!! this chapter was one of the best in a long while. it is more of a cliffhanger- the stuff that i like. It makes you so eager for the next chapter. Luffy finally meets Lucci- what is going to happen- oh boy! i cant wait- my hair is on end. I hope this is when we will see the full extent of his gear transformations
and as for Chopper- oh boy!!! oh boy!! i cant believe he is this powerful. the invention of the rumble ball was ingenious- i didnt know it could amplify his powers to such an extent.
Lets join hands Everyone!!
It is time to PRAY for FRANKY
He is got little to no cola!!!

Hermie
April 21, 2006, 06:50 PM
409 is out, grab it over here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3569.0)



________________________________________________________
Wow. 408 practically confirmed what i've been saying for ages. (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=3632256&postcount=15)
Also, did anyone notice how Kalifa was very... frisky when attacking? I know I did.

These chapters will probably go down as one of the hottest chapters in the history of OP (along with the Alabasta bath scene). ^_^











....Oh yeah, I think Chopper might have done some stuff, too...







Now the question is, how will this develop? Will Franky get a wallop like Kumadori? Will Chopper regain coonciousness? Can Luffy handle Lucchi this time? Is Sanji aware of what is happening only a few floors above him, and what would he do if he knew?

...AND WILL ODA CONTINUE THIS LOVELY FANSERVICE?!! <33333





_________________________

Rumor has it that clicking here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3292.0) will get you the 408 stuffs

ltphil
April 21, 2006, 08:44 PM
Also, did anyone notice how Kalifa was very... frisky when attacking? I know I did.


and that from Kalifa.....(wasn't she the one who's shouting sexual harrasment all the time)




These chapters will probably go down as one of the hottest chapters in the history of OP (along with the Alabasta bath scene). ^_^


hell yeah..... go oda....go oda..... :p




....Oh yeah, I think Chopper might have done some stuff, too...


the whole "king kong" thing is too cool to be real.....(or is it more like "hulk") anyway.....that was a really good idea...




Will Chopper regain coonciousness?


i hope he will get it under controll......that would be a nice new transformation for the little fella....




Can Luffy handle Lucchi this time?


he just have to.....and besides...there in a tunnel......there are no windows this time....



Is Sanji aware of what is happening only a few floors above him, and what would he do if he knew?


maybe Franky will find him....and help him.....
but maybe after kalifa is done for.....Sanji's power will return......
and then he searches someone of the chipher poll to beat the shit out of him.....(it has to be a him....after kalifa is done)



...AND WILL ODA CONTINUE THIS LOVELY FANSERVICE?!! <33333


we will see....but i'm sure he won't let us down...

shinwei
April 21, 2006, 11:40 PM
409? LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY!!!!

(chant with me guys)

synge
April 22, 2006, 03:25 AM
don't think luffys fight will be shown before zoro is finished :\

shinwei
April 22, 2006, 03:45 AM
Why do you have such little faith?

Chant with me!

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natli
April 22, 2006, 04:22 AM
Alright...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Sanji's current state mean that Kalifa had to lather Sanji everywhere? If he doesn't get out of Enies Lobby alive we can say that he died a happy man.
Btw, any ideas how to reverse the process of turning into a soap figurine?

And yes, fist post, so hi everyone :amuse

Kickmeister
April 22, 2006, 09:02 AM
HELL YEAH! LUFFY!

Sogeking powah aswell, would be fun to see more of that ^^

EvilSniffles
April 22, 2006, 11:18 AM
I think after a while the power wears off, what esstentially happens to nami is she becomes all soapy like or bubbley like? BAHAHAHAHAHAH hermie that is the best spoiler caption in the world. yay for the win....oh yeah I noticed the past few days that the ossu's and wtfs are no longer in place.

ltphil
April 22, 2006, 12:04 PM
HELL YEAH! LUFFY!

Sogeking powah aswell, would be fun to see more of that ^^


that's right...the soge katana thing is so damn funny

praise oda

venicia777
April 22, 2006, 12:54 PM
Why do you have such little faith?

Chant with me!

LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So lets go shinwei-----

LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but dont forget i expect the continuation of the CHOPPER FRANKY interaction. oh christ!!! i never expected CHOPPER to be this strong soo soon in the series. Wow!!! i cant just help it but pray for Franky unless someone manages to calm him. and i am expecting Nami and Kalifa to go on the sizzle. Yup!! they are lesbians- isnt that so? Lets see more of the kalifa Nami action.

nolink
April 22, 2006, 01:57 PM
my predictions:

-since we can see monster chopper climbing up, hope he meets kaku and jyabura and do a "double kill!!", hope he doesnt do anything nasty to ussop/zoro duo.

-luffy putting on a good fight, probably seeing a starter fight, clashes and no major injuries.

-spandam grabbing robin away as the 2 fights

-franky struggling to get his cola

-nami finding her way to defeat kalifa / sanji-san to the rescue~

ltphil
April 22, 2006, 02:28 PM
-since we can see monster chopper climbing up, hope he meets kaku and jyabura and do a "double kill!!", hope he doesnt do anything nasty to ussop/zoro duo.


maybe....so anyone have time for his(choppers) needs......




-luffy putting on a good fight, probably seeing a starter fight, clashes and no major injuries.


it could be a really quick one thou......i don't think lucci is aware of what happens to him next....




-spandam grabbing robin away as the 2 fights


errr........he's done that allready at the end of chapter 408




-franky struggling to get his cola


check......or maybe he finds sanji and helps him




-nami finding her way to defeat kalifa / sanji-san to the rescue~


nami will kick her harassment jelling ass...that's for sure....

and sanji....nahh....he won't kick a lady....(but what will he do, if he's the only one to save nami....)

ltphil
April 22, 2006, 03:13 PM
but if the "soap" effect goes away after a short amount of time....that will mean that sanji is allready up and urging to beat the shit out of the enemy...

and yeah.....that was an awsome chapter....i really looking forward to the luffi vs lucci thing

Kickmeister
April 22, 2006, 07:31 PM
It would be so freaking badass if Chopper defeated all the remaining CP9 XD And he get this monster bounty with a picture of this cute little Chopper reindeer - Now that would've been cool..

venicia777
April 22, 2006, 07:41 PM
It would be so freaking badass if Chopper defeated all the remaining CP9 XD And he get this monster bounty with a picture of this cute little Chopper reindeer - Now that would've been cool..
i am telling you- if he defeats any more his bounty is going to skyrocket like crazy. I mean- everyone on the teams bounty is going to increase. in the now-They have infiltrated the world government which no one has ever succeeded in doing before (ie if they mangage to free robin and take franky along). That will be like taking sugar or candy out of the hand of the world government. Two of the keys to ancient weapons that can give the world government absolute power (robin and franky) - if they manage to escape due to mugiwara crews efforts- will make the crew the most hated enemies of the world government.  and that easily translates into hefty bounties. But i guess if they present the real truth about what happens some of the inhabitants of the world will easily become fans of the crew.

venicia777
April 22, 2006, 07:52 PM
i am just hoping the luffy fight as usual remains last. but for now- i cant wait!!! who is chopper going to fight next? i cant wait to see that- anyone that meets him will be in danger. did you see the guys eyes- it looks like he is completely in the zone.

Anonymous Spore
April 22, 2006, 08:41 PM
Yoyoi!

Makes you wonder what'd happen if y'fed rumble balls to one of them kaiou type fish that're so abundant in OP.

So, does anybody know if Califa's power is simply to generate soap/bubbles or if it's a logia type ability like Aokij and Smoker, where she can actually become bubbles?

ltphil
April 22, 2006, 08:47 PM
Yoyoi!

Makes you wonder what'd happen if y'fed rumble balls to one of them kaiou type fish that're so abundant in OP.

So, does anybody know if Califa's power is simply to generate soap/bubbles or if it's a logia type ability like Aokij and Smoker, where she can actually become bubbles?


nobody knows yet.......

but i don't think she can.......

tanminh
April 23, 2006, 12:32 AM
i want to see ussop kabuto weapon in action, i bet he suit it up with alot of dials. maybe he got a reject dial from skypeia stuck in it too.

Hermie
April 23, 2006, 08:58 AM
I think it's a Paramecia, since she made a soap shell to protect herself from the lightning bolt, instead of just dissolving into bubbles.

venicia777
April 23, 2006, 08:20 PM
yeah!! so far it doesnt seem like she can do that. But with these powerful guys, ie as powerful as she is, isnt it possible that if she survives this encounter she can be able to get to that level. Maybe not.

But her ability is so powerful especially if she is fighting in a terrain where she can control with lather. Come to think of it is anyone thinking what i am thinking- what if chopper gets into that room? Will his powers dissipate and would he find a way around Kalifas technique with his escalated/extended devil fruit abilities in that state he is in.

EvilSniffles
April 23, 2006, 09:56 PM
Her power has the abilit to drain a persons power or clean it as she says. what if she just cleans away the berserk like rage, ie have the power but you know what you can do with it. I like to think that chopper is at the pinnacle of the DF. kinda like how over time a person is able to use 100% of the ability, but in his case he does it blindly. or it could be an over extension of his power as vencia says. also I wasn't sure till now but chopper is climbing up! so who ever is above him will be in for a surprise. in other words he might just take out the two logia types and zorro and sogeking along. wonder if franky is still mobile or in shock. granted his front body is metal, there is only so much pressure of a punch he can take.

Lohnt
April 24, 2006, 04:00 AM
I'm confused... why does *cough* "cleanliness" wash away power???? Poor poor molested and rubbed all over by crazylesbiansecretaryfeminist Kalifa, Sanji...

Chopper is the man. Brains > Brawn which somehow Brains = Brawn. The weakest and most intelligent of the mugiwara is turning into the strongest and most mindless :/ Shame that a doctor has to cause all this pain, I'm sure he'll cry about all the people he hurt afterwards, doctors aren't supposed to hurt good people at least. Then again, Franky does deserve it for what he did to Ussop...

Brede
April 24, 2006, 05:04 AM
I'm confused... why does *cough* "cleanliness" wash away power???? Poor poor molested and rubbed all over by crazylesbiansecretaryfeminist Kalifa, Sanji...


at least he's happy :smile-big boy oh boy, i laughed so hard when it finally came out that kalifa got the soap DF. a giraffe and soap! where does Oda-sensei get his ideas from? that was so hilarious! but if Kalifa can 'wash' away stuff, won't she be able to wash away physical things as well? mebe they can make use of her bubble power to 'wash' away Zoro/Sogeking's handcuff!

as expected, YoYoi got squashed. Yay! chopper!

The Boff
April 24, 2006, 05:43 AM
why does choppers hat transform with him? the size thing....
completely love Luffy! a door made of really thick steel? who cares.
KICK IT DOWN!!

Hermie
April 24, 2006, 07:26 AM
why does choppers hat transform with him? the size thing....

For the same reason Luffy's clothes expand with him. xD

The Boff
April 24, 2006, 07:30 AM
For the same reason Luffy's clothes expand with him. xD

yeah, i know its a manga... cant expect everything to make sense...
anyways. kick ass chapter. i soooooo want the next one.
some luffy action, yes please!

gambard
April 24, 2006, 10:00 AM
D. Ace's pants and hat also burn. :D lovely crazyness

I thought Sanji was knocked down by Kalifa's mere kicks, not by bubbles, as he never kicks a lady. So, he's got a little chance to recover very quick.

I have a feeling that when Chopper meets a logia, he won't be able to kick butt. However, I don't think he'll be beaten by bubbles. He's so huge afterall besides he's hairy.

Talking bout Usopp, I really wish Sogeking to show out of him something, something awesome.

Sogeking rules :p

ltphil
April 24, 2006, 10:07 AM
D. Ace's pants and hat also burn. :D lovely crazyness

I thought Sanji was knocked down by Kalifa's mere kicks, not by bubbles, as he never kicks a lady. So, he's got a little chance to recover very quick.

I have a feeling that when Chopper meets a logia, he won't be able to kick butt. However, I don't think he'll be beaten by bubbles. He's so huge afterall besides he's hairy.

Talking bout Usopp, I really wish Sogeking to show out of him something, something awesome.

Sogeking rules :p


it's all about the mask.....nobody can see his face....(scary) and his emotions.......

so he can act like he's all super....and nobody will see that he's scared......

and if we remember the fight against luffy......he can do it when he's willing to....

i like to see more action from his new weapon....

ltphil
April 24, 2006, 10:08 AM
i want to see ussop kabuto weapon in action, i bet he suit it up with alot of dials. maybe he got a reject dial from skypeia stuck in it too.


that would be such an enormous weapon.......

"go sogeking"

gambard
April 24, 2006, 10:15 AM
in the now-They have infiltrated the world government which no one has ever succeeded in doing before (ie if they mangage to free robin and take franky along).

Wrong!!! The truth is :: Nobody's ever tried to infiltrate before.


I'm having a feeling that whitebeards will turn to back up mugiwaras as the story goes on.

Talking bout bounties, I guess Nami will be the only one left without a bounty afterwards.
Luffy will definitely fly over 200mil.



HELL YEAH! LUFFY!

Sogeking powah aswell, would be fun to see more of that ^^


LUFFY!!LUFFY!!LUFFY!!LUFFY!!usopp..LUFFY!!LUFFY!!LUFFY!!LUFFY!! :p

venicia777
April 24, 2006, 11:06 AM
Ohh!! so chopper did smash franky- damn! how much damage did he receive?
Anyways, i dont think i agree with the assertion that chopper wont be able to kick butt if he meets a loggia type like kaku. The guy is using technology that has made him reach the limits of DF abilities (powerful guys like aokiji train to get close), but although his devil fruits abilities may not be as powerful as say turning everything into ice- i bet he has a chance against any opponent. Yoyoi, who doesnt seem to have a devil fruit, is really strong and on top of that a rokushiki user. He got squashed with just one blow. Saying chopper may not do well against a loggia type in his current state maybe quite an understatement. For one we havent seen him fight in this form for long- so lets wait and see.

shinwei
April 24, 2006, 12:56 PM
I hope Sogeking has something crazy awesome up his sleeve...

Can anyone say...
SOGEBEAM!!

near
April 24, 2006, 01:23 PM
if any marines that see chopper in this form actually survive it im sure his bounty will skyrocket. itll be cool too when sogeking gets a bounty since theres no bounty for usopp. itll give him more of a dual identity since hell be able to walk around as usopp without drawing suspicion.

Lohnt
April 24, 2006, 02:02 PM
Logia users can still be hurt by physical attacks... They can't be hurt by guns or swords, but Enel took quite a beating from both Luffy and Wiper physically so whoever said Chopper can't beat a logia is a logia fanboy :/

I'm sorry but Logia isn't some ultimate super cool supersaiyan ability. It gives you immunity to bullets and swords, and a power boost.
Franky is immune to bullets and (unskilled) swords, as well as has a power boost. Why don't people think he's unbeatable?
Luffy is a bullet mirror and has a huge power boost, why don't people say only a swordsman could defeat Luffy?

If Chopper fought a Logia, he would probably hit him/her so hard s/he'd get knocked out if not get smashed into pieces... As for whether this is Choppers limits, I hope not :/ Not that I don't love the fact that he's the hulk and this gives opportunity for a proper fight against a giant (BRING ON THE ELBAF!) but he needs some normal/semibig breed of his uncontrolable form and his other 7 forms. The perfect form if you will :). (Much like normal Zoan types have Human/Animal/Mix, however Chopper has 5 other forms to throw into the mix)

Lohnt
April 24, 2006, 02:11 PM
Luffy Luffy Luffy Luffy!

I wonder if Zoro uses the air cutting technique will it be an outline of Sogeking that flies at Kaku and Jyabura ^^ Soge Surashu! (slash)
That new weapon looks uncomfortable to use against a Zoan... I mean close combat with a sniping sling shot that large requires room. If only Soge King worked out a little more he could use it as a staff until he gained some distance. Still, he upgraded the slingshot, I wonder if he will upgrade the hammer, rubberband, other annoyance techniques. Psychological warfare FTW!

gambard
April 24, 2006, 02:55 PM
what if Aokiji turned Chopper into ice-gorilla at one shot? geez....
chilly to talk.
Enel can shoot down huge lightning bolts which made huge holes in skypeia without his maxim.
D. Ace might find hard to beat Choopy gorilla but Chopper will have no chance to give him a monster punch while he's in the flames form.

Anyway, there's no way an Elbaf can win mighty Chopper. :D

Bravo
April 25, 2006, 10:02 PM
Logia users can still be hurt by physical attacks... They can't be hurt by guns or swords, but Enel took quite a beating from both Luffy and Wiper physically so whoever said Chopper can't beat a logia is a logia fanboy :/


Dude, like zomg. The reason luffy could punch Enel is because of the rubber nullifying the lightning. This is also why Luffy couldn't punch Smoker because of the fact rubber does not nullify smoke. As for Wiper, he couldn't have hit him without the seastone (name slipping my mind at the moment). So, unless Chopper is carrying some of that seastone (pointless since it'd null his own powers), or he's able to nullify their logia power (what can fur nullify? Water if he's like a platypus? Discuss) then he'd have a hard time beating anyone with a logia devil fruit. As for hitting them, it's useless (unless you can nullify their ability [this assumption being based on what I've seen and read so far which is a secret!]). Robin used clutch on Ao Kiji and he just shattered then preceded to reform, right? Or was that just the anime. I can't remember.

Correct me if I'm wrong though. All of this is based on my understanding of what I've seen. So if it's inaccurate let me know (and cite the point with the correct information, if possible).

Lohnt
April 25, 2006, 11:21 PM
You aren't wrong, it's complicated, BUT I can't accept that Logia users arent hurt by physical attacks.

Crocodile is the only one that defeats my point.. BUT

Enel doesn't work based on that logic, Luffy is immune to Enel, Enel doesn't have any reprocutions (sp?) against Luffy, he only is forced to fight him fairly without Lightning. Wiper put his legs around him before he placed the seastone on him, and Enel blocked too much to be immune to physical.
Ao Kiji didn't have some kind of immunity to physical attacks, he's probably just so cut from being such a a badass like Houdini he can take a punch. It is detterant to your health to punch him however. (what freezing upon touching him and all)

Smoker is gaseous, that's why I always understood him to not feel physical attacks, not because he was a Logia.
Ace I don't know about, BUT he was knocked out by Luffy at the restaurant.
Which brings up an interesting point, Logia users can probably be hit if they're hit by surprise, their powers seem to work by focusing like Robins.

Crocodile.. I don't know I think because sand is so small the area of effect is too large for a concentrated attack to hurt him. However water/liquid hardens sand into a more solid and smaller aoe. If that isn't the case, then Crocodile breaks my argument :/

Bravo
April 26, 2006, 12:14 AM
Wiper put his legs around him before he placed the seastone on him, and Enel blocked too much to be immune to physical.


Wasn't the stone in his nifty little ski thingy?

Now where I'm treading is a thin line, but I don't have the manga at hand so I'm going from my memory based off the anime (which is what I remember). So, if it wasn't in the manga then this point is mute. However, didn't Enel give a Shandaria (Is that the right one? The winged dudes?) five minutes to attack him? No matter what the guy tried all his attacks (which were consiquently physical) passed right through Enel.

Then he was all /own on that n00b with his lightning attack, but since Enel's a bigger n00b he didn't make sure the guy was dead because he failed to totally rockzors him with a head shot. All in all, we can agree that Enel's a noob and Luffy's a pro. Like Jeremy, except instead of uber micro he's got uber rubber.

Also, I think your idea on they have to be "aware" of their opponent is valid (Enel had his mantra, so it could look like he was an exception).

gambard
April 26, 2006, 09:39 AM
All in all, we can agree that Enel's a noob and Luffy's a pro.


Very true.... Enel definitely doesnt have enough experience or training as much as Luffy pro. All he has is his lightning powers.



Btw, I wonder who'll win if Enel Vs Crocodile.
Dont forget that sand is also immune to lightning and sand doesnt burn by heat. Do you vote for Crocodile?
On the other hand, Crocodile doesnt have Luffy like agility. He wont be able to give fast punches like Luffy. He also wont be able to do a thing with his poisoned hook or any kinds of sandstorms to Enel. Its a headache for me.

EvilSniffles
April 26, 2006, 11:13 AM
Dont forget that sand is also immune to lightning and sand doesnt burn by heat.


ummm do you know how to make glass? I think rough glass involes the melting of sand info: http://hypertextbook.com/physics/matter/glass/ go to the composition part.... heat can melt and it can burn.

Hermie
April 26, 2006, 02:02 PM
Off topic, people..



Why don't you guys make a Vs. thread in the Tree of Knowledge? :)

Strawhat_4491
April 26, 2006, 06:11 PM
Chapter 408 was good but what do you say about 490.

P.S. LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY!!!!!!!!!!!

Makiyura
April 26, 2006, 08:29 PM
yeah, i know its a manga... cant expect everything to make sense...
anyways. kick ass chapter. i soooooo want the next one.
some luffy action, yes please!


i agreee 110%........it was a good chapter.. and wahts taking the zoro/sokge king fight so long.

Kickmeister
April 27, 2006, 11:30 AM
490? I don't have a clue actually :P

ltphil
April 27, 2006, 02:19 PM
i really hope to see the fight between lucci and ruffi ......but .....

it also could be the fight between califa and Nami.....zorro/sogeking and kaku/wolfie....
the chopper and franky scene.....who knows.....

Galth
April 27, 2006, 02:21 PM
I think we'll see the Nami vs Kalifa fight mostly, and perhaps see what Sanji is up to from this point. I don't believe we'll see anything more from Luffy and Lucchi but insult fighting...

sixsodacola
April 27, 2006, 02:49 PM
Ok now Luffy vs luchie from what ive seen he only has a short wile before his gear 3 goes out only time for one attack Gear 2 seams more stable so Any predictions? :jir_thumb

ltphil
April 27, 2006, 04:21 PM
maybe he's still on gear 3 :blink

who the hell know's (besides ODA) how long it stay on....or maybe it was a 1 time thing....he turned gear 2 on and maybe could not turn it off........

if you think this a little further....why should he turn the gears down to 1.......maybe he runs now on gear 2-3 all the time.....

that would make sense because there will be much dangerous foes waiting to battle with luffy....

immelmann
April 27, 2006, 04:35 PM
Wouldn't staying a gear consume his energy too fast? he only ate after he went gear 2, hopefully going to gear 3 didnt waste a lot of energy. i don't think luffy remaind in any gear longer than he needed too, thus why he returned to normal luffy instead of staying chibi

venicia777
April 27, 2006, 06:02 PM
that will be up soon. Probably chopper ascent will lead him to their room. I am soo hoping that chopper helps nami instead of going to soge king/zoro's aid. But i will really love to see one of the team members see choppers new form. None of them ever seen it yet- it will give a new respect for the guy. A doctor and a super strong bad ass.


Luffys fight, as usual is slated for the end. This is arc is soo great. How does Oda come up with such great arcs- too incredible to think about it. i just hope we get a release to tide us over for this week and next week.

venicia777
April 27, 2006, 09:01 PM
yeah!!! i have been thinking that i hoped it was luffy who got stuck in the fridge(yoyoi)- just because he is gonna need a lot of fire  power to fight lucci- and food replenishes his energy. lucci is gonna give him a fight that is supposed to send him to the next level. In this fight- he must be stronger than when he fought eneru or crocodile. Aokiji showed that Luffys level wasnt all what we thought it to be- i expected stronger guys after eneru but not as incredibly strong and so powerful as Aokiji was.

Lucci is a barrier he must cross or break!!! the crew will need massive protection after this escapade- that is if it is succesful. the world government will be on their heels forever. so on the side i am kinda glad he doesnt have any food supplies to replenish his energy store house if he goes to higher gears. That will make him strain to give his best since robin is just about to cross the barrier. i hope there is someone else that entered the tunnel after luffy so as to stop robin from been taken away for good- since luffy cant do both duties while engaged with Lucci.

i think this is a fight we will never forget in One Piece :eyeroll :eyeroll. One of the classics.
 

billion bruce lees
April 27, 2006, 11:15 PM
it's similar by a huge stretch of the imagination, different circumstances, different mental, different result.

he took that guy out with one blow, and sorta didn't even notice

chopper rules!!!

Lohnt
April 27, 2006, 11:45 PM
I have a feeling before the fights over Luccis gonna pull something out of his sleeve that'll surprise us all. Like in between the first confrontation and the last (assuming it isn't one long battle) he beats down monster Chopper so badly it'l be another tearjerker and that will launch Luffy into berserk mode as he tends to do right before he rapes a strong enemy :D

What I mean is, something like: The nakama defeat their CP9 enemies, but find Chopper in his current state, and all fail to stop him due to fatique/his strength then Chopper catches up with Luffy and Lucci, Lucci turns Leopard and beats him down :( (THEORY/SPECULATION NOT A SPOILER/FACT)

jabbament
April 28, 2006, 01:11 AM
which occured first? also, the mangaka could be best friends and asked if he can used that idea...I don't think anyone thinks of that though

First time you see the pills in Naruto (Chouji's special power up ones) was Chapter 188 (volume 21 I think).
First time you see the pills in One Piece (Chopper's Rumble Ball) was Chapter 149 (volume 17 I think).
Naruto was first published in 1999.
One Piece was first published in 1997.

If it was "stolen", it'd be Naruto...and eh, they're pills...Chopper is a doctor and makes his own pills...and the others are the Akimichi clan's secret soldier pills...who cares really? Both are cool. :p

Brede
April 28, 2006, 12:57 PM
Chopper reminds me of Dr.Jekyll & Mr. Hyde - the mild doctor and the psycho wild monster alter ego. maybe that's where oda-sensei got his idea from. anyone felt this similarity?

Hermie
April 28, 2006, 02:32 PM
Chopper reminds me of Dr.Jekyll & Mr. Hyde - the mild doctor and the psycho wild monster alter ego. maybe that's where oda-sensei got his idea from. anyone felt this similarity?

Yeah, Oda seems to draw a lot of inspiration from fairy tales. (boy who cried wolf, pinocchio, that guy who lived in a whale that I can't remember, etc.) (and now Jekyll and King Kong, of course)

Galth
April 28, 2006, 02:54 PM
pinocchio, that guy who lived in a whale that I can't remember


The guy who lived in a whale for a while was Giapetto ( is named differently in other languages ), Pinocchio/Pineapplehead's father/creator. ^^

immelmann
April 28, 2006, 05:23 PM
chopper is climbing the side of the tower now though, and luffy is under the first pilar of the bridge to hesitiation, i don't really see chopper or any other of the nakama getting there that quickly. as for lucchi beating down monster chopper, unlikely. i think luffy is already drivin to the edge seeing that he issued gears 2 and 3 already, and quite easily. seems luffy is being able to control his power and emotions more.

Whirlwind
April 29, 2006, 06:25 AM
Wouldn't staying a gear consume his energy too fast? he only ate after he went gear 2, hopefully going to gear 3 didnt waste a lot of energy.


I think people might be getting a certain impression of the different gears taking them as "levels" like in say DBZ with the super saiyan "level" and such, where they remain on it and their power is high.
I think that the gears are just his names for his techniques that are used to increase his movement. When he did gear 2, you saw him super compressing his legs in bulges, implying springing into himself, and as such he was capable of the CP9 skills (moving so n so limb 10 times was it? in one motion to get the effect). When he did gear 3 all we see is a hand bite (maybe to prepare his body for the compression?) and of course the shrink, so i'm guessing maybe instead of a bulge compression like for gear 2 he had the idea to do a single compression all over the body (he is very good at taking new ideas from other things he thinks up) to concentrate the power? And when its not used he relaxes into normal?

Either way, i'm just sayin think the gears arent really levels, just techniques, and like all other techniques they're only in use when needed (not to mention the compression and such taking up energy..).

Galth
April 30, 2006, 10:48 AM
Gear two was said to be the hardening of his body by compressing the rubber to a stronger/compacter state ( which is why he went chibi with the gear three :xp ), so my guess is he'll fight Lucchi on gear 2 and give him the finishing blow on gear three...[br]Posted at: April 30, 2006, 04:47:56 PM_________________________________________________Oh, and when did Luffy need to power-up before attacking the 'boss', he always wins, so he doesn't need rest XD

Lohnt
April 30, 2006, 01:22 PM
Against Crocodile, he kinda had to rest and eat a lot after being stabbed in the stomach, get rehydrated after being dried up and finally pissed off enough to finish him in the last fight.

That's kind of powering up.

venicia777
May 01, 2006, 09:03 AM
Gear two was said to be the hardening of his body by compressing the rubber to a stronger/compacter state ( which is why he went chibi with the gear three :xp ), so my guess is he'll fight Lucchi on gear 2 and give him the finishing blow on gear three...[br]Posted at: April 30, 2006, 04:47:56 PM_________________________________________________Oh, and when did Luffy need to power-up before attacking the 'boss', he always wins, so he doesn't need rest XD


In this case he may need rest(this fight is going to be tough- i dont know what oda will pull up)- but he really doesnt need rest either. Robin is been taken away by the abominable spandam. i am just praying maybe the fish-old lady and her "niece"- will be able to slip by somehow to help impede spandams escape. Otherwise luffy has to be quick- and it aint going to be so. i just hope that his desire to be quick doesnt lead him into making rash and unnecessary mistakes like usopp and zoro have gotten themselves in at the moment.

shinwei
May 01, 2006, 01:02 PM
I think people might be getting a certain impression of the different gears taking them as "levels" like in say DBZ with the super saiyan "level" and such, where they remain on it and their power is high.
I think that the gears are just his names for his techniques that are used to increase his movement. When he did gear 2, you saw him super compressing his legs in bulges, implying springing into himself, and as such he was capable of the CP9 skills (moving so n so limb 10 times was it? in one motion to get the effect). When he did gear 3 all we see is a hand bite (maybe to prepare his body for the compression?) and of course the shrink, so i'm guessing maybe instead of a bulge compression like for gear 2 he had the idea to do a single compression all over the body (he is very good at taking new ideas from other things he thinks up) to concentrate the power? And when its not used he relaxes into normal?

Either way, i'm just sayin think the gears arent really levels, just techniques, and like all other techniques they're only in use when needed (not to mention the compression and such taking up energy..).


I'd actually be happy if the gears WERE in fact levels, and they would continue to be awesome forever as long as everyone and their mother suddenly can do it too (DBZ, Bleach, Shaman King). If it were completely Luffy-specific, that would be perfect :)

The Touch
May 02, 2006, 01:41 AM
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Enjoy.

Hermie
May 02, 2006, 02:11 AM
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Uploading and all that jazz in progress. :D

4ghost
May 02, 2006, 02:20 AM
Thanks Touch.

Lohnt
May 02, 2006, 03:16 AM
*cough* I may have overreacted a little *cough*

Thank you very much, thank you thank you thank you ^^

Naru83
May 02, 2006, 03:28 AM
Finally, my One Piece fix. Thanks Touch. And from the looks of it the spoiler was true.

ltphil
May 02, 2006, 06:45 AM
thanks a lot man......

Galth
May 02, 2006, 08:18 AM
Finally, my One Piece fix. Thanks Touch. And from the looks of it the spoiler was true.


"Finally"?! This is daymn early XD XD XD

vlado
May 02, 2006, 03:16 PM
Gepetto is the Romanian/Italian and the original name :D

Ivan20
May 03, 2006, 12:28 AM
I wanna see Zorro fight =D

Lohnt
May 03, 2006, 03:40 AM
"don't think luffys fight will be shown before zoro is finished :\"


Why do you have such little faith?
Chant with me!
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Brede
May 03, 2006, 05:51 AM
i don't understand the japanese but did spandam just activated the Buster call anyway?

Galth
May 03, 2006, 06:13 AM
He did

Predator
May 03, 2006, 06:35 AM
The best pat was that he activate it accidentaly. But later he didn't regret it.

Somehow Lucci seems weak now. He bent upon the first punch of Luffy. No Tekkai? No Soru?

Galth
May 03, 2006, 06:39 AM
The best pat was that he activate it accidentaly. But later he didn't regret it.

Somehow Lucci seems weak now. He bent upon the first punch of Luffy. No Tekkai? No Soru?


He still has his panther form, aye...

venicia777
May 03, 2006, 10:02 AM
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=258278&postcount=132

has a partial translation. i guess we have to wait for a better quality raw.

ltphil
May 03, 2006, 01:37 PM
He still has his panther form, aye...


i really hope that the panther form is his last ace.....and when he transformes.....then the real fight will beginn

venicia777
May 03, 2006, 09:54 PM
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i really hope that the panther form is his last ace.....and when he transformes.....then the real fight will beginn

As for me, i prefer he has more aces under his belt. i still have what Aokiji did to luffy in mind. If there are such powerful adversaries ahead of the team, i just pray lucci gives luffy the best training for his new level of strength(gear transforms). Let luffy really sweat till he drops-- t hats what i am hoping for.

i am just thinking- where do you guys think Super Chopper's first stop will be?

Lohnt
May 04, 2006, 02:32 AM
Sweating till he drops would probably work against them wouldn't it?
Unless Robin ends up carrying all of them (ala Skypeia) I don't see how they would escape the buster call. And with what boat/sea train?

ltphil
May 04, 2006, 05:46 AM
i am just thinking- where do you guys think Super Chopper's first stop will be?


that is a good question... i prefer that he is running(climbing) into the Zorro/sogekatana fight....
he will rampage a little....then Kaku and the Wolfmen will start a useless fight against chopper.....and i think it'll be like the kumadori thing....
maybe 2-4 punches but no real fight thou.....

and for the training of zorro.....he will have to survive against chopper without harming him....and the fight will stop when Usopp/sogeking reaches Choppers old self inside the Monster......chopper will turn into his normal state...and will loose consciousness
....and that will proove once and for all how important Usopp/Sogking is for the group.....

venicia777
May 06, 2006, 12:20 PM
Me too- it will be awesome if he charges into the sogeking encounter. That will be awesome- the look on zoro and usopps face- will be to die for. i bet no one will have expected chopper to get that far- of course not even most of us? we were all expecting them to be stronger but not this strong for chopper- his strength right now is insane.

But i would love that his actions somehow gets nami out of trouble-otherwise she is toast. i dont know why califa is toying around with her- nami should just count herself lucky after she survives this encounter.

and then comes to mind the buster call- how are they going to escape the inferno as well as possibly defeat some of the five admirals, who probably are stronger than cp9 (hmm! maybe not)

shinwei
May 07, 2006, 06:46 AM
So, the buster call calls five VICE-admirals, not admirals. Remember how Aokiji and Akainu were both still VICE-admirals 20 years ago. But yes, they probably are stronger than the CP9.

Sanji is still sitting against the stairs down there on the first floor reception hall. He still looks out of it, so that kind of screws up all the Sanji-fans' hopes that he would pop out of nowhere and save the day. I don't mind too much since he's my least favorite Straw-hat though :p

Luffy and Lucci are totally going at it full blast! Luffy's really damn pissed and eager to fight, and I can't wait to see how it unfolds with Lucci's Devil Fruit abilities.

The key point is going to be on Robin (or so I hope). Her fruit ability is simply insane and I sincerely doubt we've seen its full potential at this point. Nami needs to swipe that No. 2 Key from Kalifa and deliver it ASAP so Robin can OWN.

billion bruce lees
May 07, 2006, 11:19 PM
So, the buster call calls five VICE-admirals, not admirals. Remember how Aokiji and Akainu were both still VICE-admirals 20 years ago. But yes, they probably are stronger than the CP9.

Sanji is still sitting against the stairs down there on the first floor reception hall. He still looks out of it, so that kind of screws up all the Sanji-fans' hopes that he would pop out of nowhere and save the day. I don't mind too much since he's my least favorite Straw-hat though :p

Luffy and Lucci are totally going at it full blast! Luffy's really damn pissed and eager to fight, and I can't wait to see how it unfolds with Lucci's Devil Fruit abilities.

The key point is going to be on Robin (or so I hope). Her fruit ability is simply insane and I sincerely doubt we've seen its full potential at this point. Nami needs to swipe that No. 2 Key from Kalifa and deliver it ASAP so Robin can OWN.
no, i don't think luffy or lucci are really going at it anywhere near full power yet.

i didn't hear gear 1, or any cp9 techniques named.

venicia777
May 09, 2006, 09:12 AM
So, the buster call calls five VICE-admirals, not admirals. Remember how Aokiji and Akainu were both still VICE-admirals 20 years ago. But yes, they probably are stronger than the CP9.

Sanji is still sitting against the stairs down there on the first floor reception hall. He still looks out of it, so that kind of screws up all the Sanji-fans' hopes that he would pop out of nowhere and save the day. I don't mind too much since he's my least favorite Straw-hat though :p

Luffy and Lucci are totally going at it full blast! Luffy's really damn pissed and eager to fight, and I can't wait to see how it unfolds with Lucci's Devil Fruit abilities.

The key point is going to be on Robin (or so I hope). Her fruit ability is simply insane and I sincerely doubt we've seen its full potential at this point. Nami needs to swipe that No. 2 Key from Kalifa and deliver it ASAP so Robin can OWN.

yeah! that was to mean vice admirals, i guess i expected it was known without the adjective/noun. I also dont think Luffy and Lucci are going at it full power yet- Lucci hasnt used his df abilities yet. But they are going at it full power with the level of punching.
As for Nami- she is toast. i dont know why califa is just toyiing with her. She offed Sanji in a heartbeat. Is she a lesbian?
As for Robin- i wonder when she will fight- maybe if they manage to escape after freeing her (as if they wont- eh?), she will be the last defence against the admirals and their onslaught. I thought she was strong, but after what crocodile did to her coupled with Aokiji's freezing, she also needs some power up- i agree to that.

Wyrdley
May 09, 2006, 10:32 PM
Sanji is still sitting against the stairs down there on the first floor reception hall. He still looks out of it, so that kind of screws up all the Sanji-fans' hopes that he would pop out of nowhere and save the day.

You know, Oda has this habit of squirreling Sanji away from the principle action and then bringing him in in the nick of time for whatever needs doing.  It happened with all the Mr. Prince stuff in the Alabasta arc, it happened in Skypiea (along with Usopp AND Luffy), and it happened in Water 7 when he was out looking for Robin while everyone else was being hunted down after the frame-up.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him revive enough to turn the tide of one the fights.  Probably Nami's.  I seriously doubt that Sanji will stay out for the entirety.  Knocking someone out is one of the ways Oda "benches" a character while dealing with other sub-plots in the action.


As for Nami- she is toast. i dont know why califa is just toyiing with her. She offed Sanji in a heartbeat.

Who knows.  I tend to think that Oda short-changes his female characters in the fight scenes.  Nami is pretty sly, but I think her sense of preservation gets in the way of her ability to just whale on someone.  I'll bet she figures out a few new techniques on her Climatact that even things out.  Sanji is a short-range fighter, but Nami has the advantage in middle and (especially) long-range attacks.  Califa has to be in the short or middle range.  If Nami can get some distance, she can probably unload quite a few viscious attacks.  Her mobility is currently the only thing hindering her.

As for Sanji, his loss appears to be mainly due to his disability to fight against a woman.  I would bet that he's a least a match for Califa, physically, even if some of the higher-powered CP9 agents are beyond him.  We didn't really get to see him at his best in that fight - just his worst.

[Edit: Also, Califa didn't "off Sanji in a beartbeat." She sat down and had tea with him first. It looks like she likes to mess with people before washing them. @_@ ]


As for Robin- i wonder when she will fight- maybe if they manage to escape after freeing her (as if they wont- eh?), she will be the last defence against the admirals and their onslaught. I thought she was strong, but after what crocodile did to her coupled with Aokiji's freezing, she also needs some power up- i agree to that.

I dunno.  In the Arlong arc, Nami just sort of stood there after she asked Luffy to help her.  Unless Robin gets frozen and somehow manages to create an entire replica of herself with her devil fruit power.  (An interesting question: can Robin regenerate her actual body - or parts of her body -  with some kind of pseudo-fission or "budding" process?  I don't think it's quite in line with how her power actually works, but it's certainly worth considering.)

I'm going to wait and see what Oda pulls out of his brain...

Lohnt
May 09, 2006, 11:29 PM
NO Oda CANNOT steal my idea!
Robin cannot clone herself, she can only clone parts of her body, there will be a fanmade fruit for cloning that ODA CANNOT HAVE *shakes fist* !

However it would be interesting to see if "foreshadowing" really will play a big role in the anime... will Robin sink 8 ships and coillapse from fatique? It may just be the thing that saves them from the buster call, if Robin musters up her strength and lives up to her bounty by sinking 8 out of the 10 ships causing the marines to retreat long enough for the SH to escape.

I hope you're right about Sanji, I'm glad I'm not the only one that's noticed Sanji does most of his fighting outside of battles (although I wish he'd get some cool battles as well :() If he does get up, maybe he'll figure out a way to sabotage the Buster call.. or free the prisoners from Enies Lobby.. or who knows, it's Sanji, he fights dirty when he wants to after all ^^ (Although not often).

Kickmeister
May 10, 2006, 09:28 AM
Hehe, you know what this means right? 5 Vice Admirals = Garp = Koby/Helemeppo

This is going to be even more fun!

EvilSniffles
May 10, 2006, 05:35 PM
who is Garp? is he one of those vice admirals wearing the dog like outfit?

Hermie
May 10, 2006, 05:39 PM
Yes, he is showed in the Coby/Helmeppo front page story arc. I hope he will have a real apperance sometime, he seems cool (plus he has a sword-fighting officer following him around, that can challenge Zoro).

EvilSniffles
May 10, 2006, 06:37 PM
yeah about those front page story arcs....do they serve any other purpose? a reason I think they are there is they could be fillers for the anime to not catch up to the manga....ie a side story.

Hermie
May 10, 2006, 06:40 PM
They are actually canon, as proved by Jango and Fullbody showing up in Alabasta. ^__^

EvilSniffles
May 10, 2006, 07:14 PM
about the lucci and luffy fight, lucci did not, as far as I can tell, perform any of this CP9 techniques. His abilities seem to be on par with luffy's. Now if he does perform his cp9 abilities, will he be on par with luffy or above luffy when luffy does his first gear move or second gear move. And to note, I do not think luffy knows about lucci's DF powers. So when lucchi does change into cheetah form (panthers are usually solid color afaik), I think luffy will be omfgwtfbbqplzkthxbai! When their fists met each other the force from both punches sent a shockwave throughtout that room.

EvilSniffles
May 10, 2006, 07:15 PM
canon? hmm....I am out of the loop on alabasta.... apparently reading the manga does not entail it to stay within my brain...

billion bruce lees
May 10, 2006, 07:44 PM
i thaught that was a nice touch

shinwei
May 10, 2006, 07:58 PM
about the lucci and luffy fight, lucci did not, as far as I can tell, perform any of this CP9 techniques. His abilities seem to be on par with luffy's. Now if he does perform his cp9 abilities, will he be on par with luffy or above luffy when luffy does his first gear move or second gear move. And to note, I do not think luffy knows about lucci's DF powers. So when lucchi does change into cheetah form (panthers are usually solid color afaik), I think luffy will be omfgwtfbbqplzkthxbai! When their fists met each other the force from both punches sent a shockwave throughtout that room.


There is no Luffy first gear move. Luffy is always in first gear normally, so he's already in First Gear.

Luffy definitely knows about Lucci's DF, Model Leopard, since that's what Lucci used against Luffy on Water Seven to throw him out of the building.

EvilSniffles
May 10, 2006, 08:44 PM
see....this is why I have crap memory....oh well yeah leopard...I forgot about that having spots... and you are right....he does 2nd gear on bluno? and does 3rd gear for the gate....sigh...bad me bad!

venicia777
May 10, 2006, 10:05 PM
You know, Oda has this habit of squirreling Sanji away from the principle action and then bringing him in in the nick of time for whatever needs doing.  It happened with all the Mr. Prince stuff in the Alabasta arc, it happened in Skypiea (along with Usopp AND Luffy), and it happened in Water 7 when he was out looking for Robin while everyone else was being hunted down after the frame-up.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him revive enough to turn the tide of one the fights.  Probably Nami's.  I seriously doubt that Sanji will stay out for the entirety.  Knocking someone out is one of the ways Oda "benches" a character while dealing with other sub-plots in the action.
What a good first post.
anyways. i for one am expecting both Sanji, and chopper, to join the fray sometime. Especially to help out with sogeking.zoro and Nami.Califa. Maybe franky might drop in somewhere. i agree with this assesment on sanji. But considering he is still feeling glassy (or is it soapy), is it because of his weakness towards women? or is that the extent of the power of Califa's df abilities on men? Since nami seems to have gotten up quicker.