Hajime no Ippo by Morikawa Jyoji

[Zaloof]

mashiba wins this spar ..
99% gedo gets banned from boxing


99.999% that gedo will get pulverized, and talks about when did he love boxing and goes straight after the match

[Silhouette]

I love Ippo but I only saw the anime thanks for the info BoffenJL now I can catch up XD...it's a shame they stopped the animation...it was excellent :shakefist[br]Posted on: February 12, 2007, 07:39:55 AM_________________________________________________Can any one tell me in which chapter or volume Takamura fights the bear?
thanks

[bax]

The Chapter 764 is out :amuse. Get it here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=15720.0).

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WOW! what can a guy say to that amazing chapter? a spar with ippo is usually nothing special but this is more thrilling than an actual match. just the fact that Mashiba has acknowledged Ippo's strength and goes full throttle is amazing. same with Ippo.
AND THE EVOLVED DEMPSEY! oh my god people! its to cool to sum up in a few words.
and i like the new thing mori is using for "almost hits" in this spar, where it looks like their clothes shatter. very nice touch Mori, very nice indeed!
//Boff

[Zaloof]

whoa, great chapter, no need for trans
who would've thought that these two were this equally matched

[KuwabaraTheMan]

A great chapter. Mashiba doing an uppercut was very unexpected.

Can't wait to see how this spar evolves.

[Zaloof]

morikawa art has evolved. those were wicked special effects :D

[Sllik]

Has Ippo come out of any spar on top before?

I think the weight and reach advantage will prove too much for Ippo.

[Zaloof]

ippo always sparred with bigger guys at higher level weights, so it wont have that much of trouble

[ilovespamusubi]

still i think the weight makes a big difference. ippo is the loser by knockout

[Zaloof]

you forget that ippo spars everyday with kimura and aoki. the only trouble ippo is facing is the reach

[The Boff]

the new dempsey! i know its not complete but OMG!!!!! that was totally wicked!
and moris new "almost hit" art is awesome.

best chapter in a long time. 5 out of 5 from this dude!

[Zaloof]

this spar isnt gonna last. the coaches will stop the match eventually

[The Boff]

this spar isnt gonna last. the coaches will stop the match eventually


i dont know dude, i get the same feeling as i did in lallapallooza. theyre evolving with each punch. what did they call it? mix up? anyways, i dont think theyre gonna stop it unless something really bad happens

[ilovespamusubi]

i agree only stopage is from ippo getting knocked out by a chopping right

[gigantor21]

I think Ricardo Martinez is easily the best boxer in the series. Takamura is one of my favorite characters, but even he was frightened by Martinez's skill. So I have to say he's second.

[Zetta]

Even though the awesome Mashiba spar is currently taking place, my mind's still focus on the mystery of Malcolm Gedo. Known as the "Magician," he represents a real mystery as to his real ability. Currently we've been provided several clues and I've taken the time to write down everything significant. I won't put down my thoughts yet, but I'll put down all the relevent information available. Consider the facts and let the challenge of figuring out Gedo's magic before the actual match begins:


Malcolm Gedo

32 matches
22 wins,
15 ko's
6 losses
4 draws

Quote from Fukui (ch-760) **Boxed in a thrown fight**
"Inside the ring with four 6 meters walls, he did something so I couldn't understand his range at all. I tried to use my left to gauge the distance but I couldn't tell if he was too close or far. I fought with my sense of distance distored the entire match."

Coach's comments (ch-761):
A-class Defenses... Incredibly skilled at maneuvering within the ring... constantly moving one way or another. Highly likely he'll drag the fight into the last round. (which is why he is Ippo's worst opponent)

video(ch-761)
Page 6, it appears as if Gedo gets hit.
Page 8, only picture of gedo in his fighting stance.

Itagaki(761)
Possible magic trick theory, "He could put his shoulder into his punches to extend his reach a bit. Or he may use very minute sways and steps to make you think he's further away than he is."

Negotiations for when to fight (ch-263)
When negotiating for time it appears as if Gedo's team wanted the match as quickly possible. They even taunted by asking "who's Makunouchi Ippo?" and the only concern was the amount of money for the fight.

I believe all this information is relavent. I'll post my opinions in a couple days. Feel free to discuss and debate Gedo's style, magic, and how you expect the fight to go down. Feel free to include anything that was learned in the Mashiba spar.

[Zaloof]

i dont know dude, i get the same feeling as i did in lallapallooza. theyre evolving with each punch. what did they call it? mix up? anyways, i dont think theyre gonna stop it unless something really bad happens


Mashiba is fighting ippo! bad is eventually coming :D

PS: no 765 this week :(

[Zaloof]

ok people, this thread is about HnI ending, we surely dont want to see that soon :p but feel free to give your predictions and opinions about this loooong series ending :D

[bax]

The chapter 765 is out. Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=16632.0)

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After done reading the chapter, feel free discussing the chapter 765 here.
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PS: I'll ask one of the mod of Hajime no Ippo to edit this first post for summary of the chapter.

another great chapter! so far no translation is out but it seemed that both ippo and mashiba went all out and they were pretty evenly matched. which tells us that ippo is a whole lot stronger than he used to be, since mashiba is not under any weight control right now as far as we know.
unfortunatly we didnt get to see the end of the spar but hopefully a translation will help us with that. maybe they mention the outcome....
tune in later for more details!

//Boff

[Alexandrius]

Awesome chapter. It'll be even better when we get a translation, but it seems as if they are pretty equal even though Ippo manages to push forward pretty well.

[Zaloof]

looks like mashiba had his ass whiped :D

[The Boff]

brief summary in the first post, will be updated more when a trans/scan comes out!

[Yuzo]

Once again, Takamura vs Hawk... It's obvious^^

But Kimura / Mashiba is close, when you watch the OVA you just get goosebumps :D Damn how come he lost...

Martinez / Date was also one hell of a fight, but Nekota / the American guy is better, Nekota just rocks^^

As for Ippo's fights, in the anime I just love Vorg, almost cried at the end, a beautiful one. Otherwise it would be his match against Sawamura, the only one who was a real opponent.


BUT, the best of the best remains Takamura / the Bear :D And Aoki's Look Away is just too funny too^^

[Yuzo]

It may very well be Arnie, since his coach was Sakaguchi, the one who despise Miyata and want to crush him ; raising another seed aside from Randy Boy Jr could be part of his plan, and he happened to pick a fight with Ippo in order to quickly gain access to the OPBF in case Randy Boy loses.

Still I believe Morikawa will introduce a completely new character ; after all we've see no good Chinese boxer so far, they all had their ass kicked...

[Zaloof]

noticed that mori-sensei didnt use his special effects in this chapter !
-
chapter 766 is late this week and its not confirmed that it wont be released.
we will wait till Wed, if its not released then except that mori-sensei took a break (again!!)

PS: noticed that not much are discussing ippo this week even though its a great chapter :(
sniff...sniff

[Zaloof]

well this topic is for the ppl who want to watch the series, but gasp at the no. of chapters that are released till now(700+ !!!!!)

so here are the link for the whole series, i know its long but you'll enjoy it and soon u will be addicted by it :p

Torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/Hajime%20no%20Ippo%201-757%2B.torrent)

[The Boff]

well... the story started with Ippo vs Miyata. so im guessing that it will end that way to.

i have no clue if its possible but i would like to see Ippo with one of the wbo or wbc titles and miyata with the orther one. and then they can slug it out on the biggest stage with the biggest croud and i think it would be awesome.

every boxer thats been in the manga would come watch that im guessing.
awesomeness!

[The Boff]

ah, a torrent for all the manga so far. nice find Zaloof!

[KevinIX]

O_o No one likes Ippo? He is by far my favorite character. I like his work hard, know no defeat attitude. Nobody else is quite like him. I just don't like how he relies too much on Kamogawa.

For strongest, it's definitely Takamura. Coolest: Date Eiji!!

[Zaloof]

thx Boff :D
also a big thx to SnoopyCool and I-O for these scans

[Zaloof]

that would be nice, but seeing mori-sensei is copying a lot from anj for his work, the final battle must be between ippo and martinez

[Orpheus]

I don't really like the thing with Miyata!! And the Fight between him and Ippo will never become reality!! because Ichirou can't remain in the featherweight class (because of the weight managment and so one) !!

Me would love to see Ippo against Martinez!! But for me he didn't have to win !!! For me to see that he try's to fullfil the Baton is enough!!

But I hope there will be alot mor fights in HnI before the end. Like Takamura conquers all classes and so on !!!!


Sorry for my bad englisch ..... its because i'm german !! :sweat

[Orpheus]

its cool but why don't you go #lurk they have everything!! Ignition-One has also everything !!!

But its cool for beginner in this awesome Manga


by the way ... do you know a place where I can download the HnI Movie?!

[Orpheus]

for me there is only one!!! and that is TAKAMURA he has the perekt mix of brawling and and Boxing Skills !!! He's just Perfekt ;)

[Zaloof]

its cool but why don't you go #lurk they have everything!! Ignition-One has also everything !!!

But its cool for beginner in this awesome Manga


by the way ... do you know a place where I can download the HnI Movie?!

yeah, but thats gonna take forever !!

about the movie here is the torrent for both of the movies(OVA) + the whole anime series

Torrent (http://www.isohunt.com/download/12062106/hajime+no+ippo)

[Zaloof]

id love for mori-sensei to surprise us more

like Miyata vs Itakagi for the WBA vacant championship seat :p

[The Boff]

that would be nice, but seeing mori-sensei is copying a lot from anj for his work, the final battle must be between ippo and martinez

yeah that was my first thought. but i really do believe that ippo and miyata will fight each other again. maybe not the way i sad before but... in one way or the other they must fight one more time. the score is 1-1 now. we need a finishier. (damn i sound like a miyata fan :p)


well i know for one thing that Mori wont end ippo exactly like AnJ. the ending in joe is a bit to dark for ippo unfortunatly.

[Zaloof]

if u thought the ending of the second series is dark, u must check out the ending of the first series

[The Boff]

if u thought the ending of the second series is dark, u must check out the ending of the first series

no personally i didnt think it was dark i thought it was a brilliant way to end it that way. but it wouldnt work for HnI. it would be to dark for Ippo thats all :D

but we're getting off topic and im a mod, i shouldnt do that sooo. stay on topic boff!!
yes sir!
good.

[Orpheus]

miyata and Ippo might fight like apollo and Rocky at the end of Rocky III ( after Miyata has trained with Ippo for the fight with Martinez )

That would be sooooo damn cool

[Orpheus]

Yeah that might be so... but for its the other way!! Torrents take so much time like weeks or months!!!

damn I have the anime already !!! *wine*

Is there torrent for only the Movie...

[Zaloof]

well i wont like the ending if wont be any drama, everything going smooth and very happy wont make a great ending, nice but not great

off topic: i upload the ending of the first series soon so bear with me, i know u will enjoy it :p

[The Boff]

miyata and Ippo might fight like apollo and Rocky at the end of Rocky III ( after Miyata has trained with Ippo for the fight with Martinez )

That would be sooooo damn cool

hahahaha awesome that you mention that! i was thinking the same thing actually :D

and that would definetly work for me.

[Zaloof]

miyata and Ippo might fight like apollo and Rocky at the end of Rocky III ( after Miyata has trained with Ippo for the fight with Martinez )

That would be sooooo damn cool

that would be great, but pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaase dont include "Eye of The Tiger" song :D

[Orpheus]

nahh eye of the Tige is for Sendo ... But that would be so hilerious <= is that right :/ !!!

I would laugh me to death !!

[Zaloof]

the movies in that torrent. if u dont want to download the anime all u have to do is uncheck the episodes when u open the torrent file

[Zaloof]

hmm... Miyata and Ippo training together in the beach, i hope Ippo wont say something stupid like "Miyata-kun, u look so strong in spandax"

sorry for going off-topic :p

[Optimist]

noticed that mori-sensei didnt use his special effects in this chapter !
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chapter 766 is late this week and its not confirmed that it wont be released.
we will wait till Wed, if its not released then except that mori-sensei took a break (again!!)

PS: noticed that not much are discussing ippo this week even though its a great chapter :(
sniff...sniff

It hasn't been scanned in yet. It's out, but no one has scanned the chapter in.
look at this picture from the weekly magazine, you can see HnI's name (page 309)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4920/23yq1.jpg
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766 is out
http://rapidshare.com/files/21892684/hni766.zip.html

[Zaloof]

thx Optimist
ill make a thread for it

[BlaZeR]

The first link is wrong bax >>
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9951

[Zaloof]

yo ppl !!

the 765 discussion is over, 766 is out get it here

http://www.mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10498

[bax]

The Chapter 766 is out!! Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10505)

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After done reading the chapter, feel free discussing the chapter 766 here.
Discuss away ^^


PS: I'll ask one of the mod of Hajime no Ippo to edit this first post for summary of the chapter.

Well, all i can say without a translation is Kamogawa Genji rules.
Malcolm Gedo is clearly only doing this fight for the money we know that much.
in steps Kamogawa and makes them bet the entire prizemoney on the winner, ensuring that
gedo will fight to win. a very smart move.

Boff

[Orpheus]

That Chapter was really cool....

Kamogawa rulez and Ippo has a very hard time before the fight. But I can't wait to see was this guy can do. I mean he is Champion!!

So we will have to wait ^^ *thumps up*

[Zaloof]

is it me, or does Gedo looks like Aoki in both looks and arrogance

[The Boff]

is it me, or does Gedo looks like Aoki in both looks and arrogance

no they look kinda alike. youre right. but mori isnt exactly a master in different faces.

[gigantor21]

no they look kinda alike. youre right. but mori isnt exactly a master in different faces.

Well, there are about a million characters in HnI, so they can only differ so much. It's the same with Prince of Tennis, though that's more in personality than in looks.

I still think he looks like an evil version of Dhalsim from Street Fighter.

[Zaloof]

I still think he looks like an evil version of Dhalsim from Street Fighter.

now that u mention it, he does look like him !!! he even extend his arm/distance control

[gigantor21]

After we brought it up on the DG Forums, it became a sort of running joke with Ignition-One. They even put an obligatory reference in one of their releases (read the bottom):

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/489/yogaflameca2.th.png (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yogaflameca2.png)

But yeah, I'm hoping Ippo gets a quick win with this one. It'd be a refreshing change.

[godofthesunn]

After we brought it up on the DG Forums, it became a sort of running joke with Ignition-One. They even put an obligatory reference in one of their releases (read the bottom):

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/489/yogaflameca2.th.png (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yogaflameca2.png)

But yeah, I'm hoping Ippo gets a quick win with this one. It'd be a refreshing change.

Dodon Flame.... So does that make Ippos gazzle punch a Shoryuken a.k.a Dragon Punch...

[gigantor21]

Dodon Flame.... So does that make Ippos gazzle punch a Shoryuken a.k.a Dragon Punch...

Yep, pretty much. Granted, it's a much more conservative version, but still...

[Zaloof]

it was nice to see kamogawa speak english once in a while, "Winna taksu all"

[Azurel]

I thought Hajime no Ippo sounds interesting and the first thing that came to my mind.. "is there an anime?" :XD and I checked youtube and wad do you know the whole series is uploaded.. so the second question is.. does it deviates? :s

[The Boff]

well, it sticks to the story pretty well. but its not the entire story.
the manga is still going and the anime ends where volume 30 of the manga continues.
and now its almost volume 80.

so to answer your question, no it doesnt deviate. but it also doesnt tell the entire story.

but i still liked the anime and so did most that has seen it i believe.

[Zaloof]

I thought Hajime no Ippo sounds interesting and the first thing that came to my mind.. "is there an anime?" :XD and I checked youtube and wad do you know the whole series is uploaded.. so the second question is.. does it deviates? :s

the anime was good, but i recommend the manga, and yes it did deviate but in a minor part
mostly it was about humor parts :D

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

As far as pure emotion goes... it has to be Kimura vs Mashiba. Especially seeing as Kimura is my favourite character it made me feel for his loss even more.

For pure awesome it's of course Takamura vs Hawk. The fight has practically everything... except Tekken. But that came shortly after anyway so it's all good.

For everything else you could possibly need? Date vs Martinez. It may not show the entire fight but DAMN what it does show? It'll surley set the stage for later fights in the manga.

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

I think Ricardo Martinez is easily the best boxer in the series. Takamura is one of my favorite characters, but even he was frightened by Martinez's skill. So I have to say he's second.

Exactly! He called him "a freaking monster" in the Vs Date fight. If Takamura of all people thinks he's a monster then you better believe that's what he is.

And since Morikawa said that alot of things have changed. Well... Takamura is probably pound for pound the best still but Ippo must be ranked alot higher up then 8th now... right? We've got the Dempsy 360 now afterall and while the Infinity Upper may not be able to quite reach larger opponents (as i think is hinted in the Ch766 raw) he can still wear em down with his body blows and just like he did to Mashiba the first time, bring thier jaws down to the point where the Infinity Upper can kill em off.

So yeah. Gotta be higher then 8th now.

[Azurel]

well, it sticks to the story pretty well. but its not the entire story.
the manga is still going and the anime ends where volume 30 of the manga continues.
and now its almost volume 80.

so to answer your question, no it doesnt deviate. but it also doesnt tell the entire story.

but i still liked the anime and so did most that has seen it i believe. If that's the case, I would just watch the anime and continue where it stops from the manga. :amuse Any reason why the anime doesnt continue on?

the anime was good, but i recommend the manga, and yes it did deviate but in a minor part
mostly it was about humor parts :D Ah okay ^^ Well, i started watching the first few episodes and yeah, it's quite good.

[The Boff]

If that's the case, I would just watch the anime and continue where it stops from the manga. :amuse Any reason why the anime doesnt continue on?


i did the same, and believe me youre better off. the first volumes are awful artwise. and i dont really the official reason to why they stopped the anime. but they chose a pretty good place to stop.

[KevinIX]

Ippo vs Sawamura
Takamura vs Eagle

[AestheticHyro]

Does anyone here know the English translation to Yuuzora no kami hikouki (first ending song to the anime)? Love this song and am dying to know.

HnI rocks! Anyone else think they'll make a second anime series when Ippo gets the OPBF title?

[bax]

The Chapter 767 is out!! Get it HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10689)



After done reading the chapter, feel free discussing the chapter 766 here.
Discuss away ^^

[Azurel]

well so far, I've watched until right before Ippo's title match so the one that really sticks has to be Ippo vs Sendo.

[Azurel]

But the anime was made like years ago.. surely if they wanted to continue they wouldn't have waited that long, would they?

Anyway, I really love the intensity of the fights.. I think most sports genre have this attribute. Plus, I'm also learning stuff about boxing I never knew. And so far, all their techniques are real as in used in by boxers.. unlike PoT, their techniques further in the story becomes absolutely unrealistic. So are the techniques used later on still real or do I have to prepare myself for some typhoon punch or something like that :XD

[The Boff]

lol, no they are real.

hmmm.... typhoon punch. there is a punch thats kinda like that but i wont spoil anything :smile-big

[The Boff]

you mean the first one? rookie kings final? thats a KICKASS fight.

but... just wait.... the title match... OMFG!

[Zaloof]

nice chapter
liked the part where Iamura screams :D

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

I...Iamura... talking about... taking out a Vienna sausage...

WITH TAKAMURA ABOUT?!

I don't care if she's thinking it she should know better then that! Takamura can sense thoughts like these >.>

[Orpheus]

Well the Action is about to Start ....

Takamura has like always his own parts *lol*

For the Fight I hope that Ippo make's it clear in 1 or 2 rounds and beat the crap out of him....

that's for that ^^

[AestheticHyro]

It's quite possible they're waiting to find a good spot to end the 2nd series anime. There's really only been title defenses for Ippo and his rematch with Miyata hasn't even come yet.

Only Takamura has been winning titles (which were good, but overall he didn't get many battles) but I doubt HnI will end after Ippo and Miyata fight again so they might just be waiting for somewhere to end at again.

After that may be aiming for the World title and then undisputed championship or something.

....So, no one has the album and can translate Yuuzora no Kami Hikouki?

[The Boff]

hmmm.... cool chapter no doubt. but im mostly curious to why Takamura is so pissed.

my guess is that he wants his fights to be under the same condition, winner takes all.
but its hard to tell without a trans... we'll see :smile-big

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

hmmm.... cool chapter no doubt. but im mostly curious to why Takamura is so pissed.

my guess is that he wants his fights to be under the same condition, winner takes all.
but its hard to tell without a trans... we'll see :smile-big

Maybe he thinks that if Ippo starts to earn that much money people are gonna start thinking he's worth more then he is.

We all know that Takamura isn't gonna compare himself to the Big Mara but i don't think Taka wants to lose his position as the money maker of the gym :eyeroll

[Azurel]

@Boff a real typhoon-like punch? I can only imagine that the movement of the arm would be like a typhoon vertically.. like how the corkscrew is horizontal in a circular motion.. :amuse

@AestheticHyro abt the translation of the first ending.. I think the subbed episodes in youtube translates the endings too. Go check it out. :)

[Azurel]

hah, yep the all japan rookie champion. he was just sitting there staring looking very fierce when he's not even conscious :s

I'm loading the title match now.. can't wait >.<

[Zaloof]

no way Takamura will lose his position as the money maker, he fights in world championships and in the heavier classes !
besides 2 million yen isnt that much for a sport event ;p

[Zaloof]

But the anime was made like years ago.. surely if they wanted to continue they wouldn't have waited that long, would they?

why not ?
AnJ anime stopped in the 70's and continued in the 80's,

[AestheticHyro]

Err....well, I watched it subbed so I know they translate the ending...I meant the whole song.

The main reason I was hoping someone knew the translation of the song was because I saw the translation of the short version in the anime...

[Azurel]

@Zaloof yeah, I also know of an anime which started in the 80s and continued around last year :s Usually the anime caught up with the manga but I dun tink so it's the case for HnI.. I just find it weird that they intentionally stop the anime when it's been going so good :amuse

@Aesth Ah okay, maybe you can ask help from one of the translators

[AestheticHyro]

I don't think they intentionally stopped it; I think they didn't think it'd go for so long so they stopped it at the best possible part, which was Ippo getting the title. If you think about it, there's no better part to stop the anime afterwards.

However, at the rate that the manga is going, I believe that they'll actually start up a 2nd series. That's all I'm sayin'.

[Orpheus]

yeah that is a thing that i'm wondering for a long Time now. Takamura is a 2 Classes World Champion. So where is the Money.... I mean Boxers in my Country takes 3 Million Euro for their Comeback Fights ( like Axel Schulz <= lost as if he is moving in slowtime or Henry Maske )....

So what do you think Takamura gets for his big World fights?!

[Zaloof]

yeah that is a thing that i'm wondering for a long Time now. Takamura is a 2 Classes World Champion. So where is the Money.... I mean Boxers in my Country takes 3 Million Euro for their Comeback Fights ( like Axel Schulz <= lost as if he is moving in slowtime or Henry Maske )....

So what do you think Takamura gets for his big World fights?!

new porn or stupid costumes :p

[Zaloof]

@Zaloof yeah, I also know of an anime which started in the 80s and continued around last year :s Usually the anime caught up with the manga but I dun tink so it's the case for HnI.. I just find it weird that they intentionally stop the anime when it's been going so good :amuse

yeah, i just dont get it ?
they say that the rating was low, but HnI is considered one of the best 200 anime and its ranked 17(personally i think it should be ranked 1st)
here is th link

http://www.animenfo.com/statistic/top.php?type=anime

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

no way Takamura will lose his position as the money maker, he fights in world championships and in the heavier classes !
besides 2 million yen isnt that much for a sport event ;p

You honestly think that Takamura cares? XD He'll take any excuse to make the members of the Kamogawa Gym's lives a living hell no matter how stupid the reason be.

He was probably just angry that Ippo wasn't at the Gym so he could torture him :eyeroll

Edit:

Actually it just seems that Takamura didn't read the English on the poster correctly and Iamura screamed

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

hah, yep the all japan rookie champion. he was just sitting there staring looking very fierce when he's not even conscious :s

I'm loading the title match now.. can't wait >.<

It's gonna leave ya speechless i tell ya! =D You're gonna wonder why both of em aren't dead after you're done ;3

[Zaloof]

You honestly think that Takamura cares? XD He'll take any excuse to make the members of the Kamogawa Gym's lives a living hell no matter how stupid the reason be.

He was probably just angry that Ippo wasn't at the Gym so he could torture him :eyeroll

Edit:

Actually it just seems that Takamura didn't read the English on the poster correctly and Iamura screamed

yeah i read the summary at the DG forums, he was upset and coudnt read the poster properly
also maybe he's just pissed because he doesnt have a fight

[Orpheus]

Actually it just seems that Takamura didn't read the English on the poster correctly and Iamura screamed

I think even if he read's the English on the Poster he wouldn't understand it because he don't know English...:p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

I think even if he read's the English on the Poster he wouldn't understand it because he don't know English...:p

Well that is what i meant heh. :D

[AestheticHyro]

This is my current wallpaper:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/xhyroleimits/IppoKumiB.jpg

Though, it was this one, but I liked the black better:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/xhyroleimits/IppoKumi.jpg

[Azurel]

I don't think they intentionally stopped it; I think they didn't think it'd go for so long so they stopped it at the best possible part, which was Ippo getting the title. If you think about it, there's no better part to stop the anime afterwards.

However, at the rate that the manga is going, I believe that they'll actually start up a 2nd series. That's all I'm sayin'. yep, I agree, they stop at the right place and I hope they would continue a 2nd series following the manga too. :amuse


yeah, i just dont get it ?
they say that the rating was low, but HnI is considered one of the best 200 anime and its ranked 17(personally i think it should be ranked 1st) maybe back then it wasn't as popular as compared to now.. since the manga would have attracted a lot of readers at the rate it's going.


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And I've finished watching the 76 episodes.. yeah, it's that addicting. :s I'm gonna watch Champion Road tomorrow.. I can't believe I put off watching One Piece during the weekends just to watch HnI :XD Once I start, it's hard to stop :amuse

[Azurel]

takamura vs ippo (but first, ippo needs to grow bigger gain more weight since i doubt taka can shed anything else. next, ippo has to leave kamogawa gym)

[Azurel]

you mean the first one? rookie kings final? thats a KICKASS fight.

but... just wait.... the title match... OMFG! I first tot u were referring to Ippo vs Date title match but Ippos vs Sendo II was indeed OMFG!! it's pure raw. :pwned


It's gonna leave ya speechless i tell ya! =D You're gonna wonder why both of em aren't dead after you're done ;3 Actually I'm wondering how can Sendo move with broken ribs and why does one of Ippo's eyes have to be swollen in every match, it's practically a trademark. :XD

[Yuzo]

I never ever considered the Aokimura fight, but it's true it would be a good match emotionally speaking... Like a little spar after a bad joke from Takamura, both guys are motivated to see who's the best in their best conditions...
And it would be funny to see how Kimura reacts to the Look Away, and how Aoki will counter the Dragon Fish Blow^^

Otherwise, i highly doubt that we will see Hawk in the ring ever again, when Eagle visited him he looked like he was broken down, to my mind he's not (and has never been) a boxer anymore.

As for what I want to see... Any fight with Vorg would be good, especially against Miyata or Mashiba.
But overall I want Ippo to fight against a real opposition, i'm fed up with cannon fodder now... C'mon, apart from Sawamura(and i'm not even sure about it), he has not taken any down since Sanada, that is around the 35th volume... what the fuck...
I hope the Gedo guy will put up some fight, at least he looks like an outboxer, which is the only type Ippo is weak against

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Actually I'm wondering how can Sendo move with broken ribs and why does one of Ippo's eyes have to be swollen in every match, it's practically a trademark. :XD

There's one or two matches he goes into later on and he looks fairly good afterwards ^^; Hell there's one where he comes out with just a few scratches XD

[Orpheus]

ohh.... sorry....

I must misread some lines there ......

Next Time I will try to do a better job ;)

[Zaloof]

another chapter showing how takamura is really cheap :p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Okay i gotta admit that chapter was pretty funny XD

And seriously the more this damn fight is being built up the more i think the fight will end within 5 rounds max and not the 10 that people expect

[Azurel]

There's one or two matches he goes into later on and he looks fairly good afterwards ^^; Hell there's one where he comes out with just a few scratches XD O.o Was his opponent so weak or was he just too damn good :XD His mother shud be able to watch that match then since she will only watch when he doesn't get hit :amuse

[Zaloof]

Okay i gotta admit that chapter was pretty funny XD

And seriously the more this damn fight is being built up the more i think the fight will end within 5 rounds max and not the 10 that people expect

well anything better then the sisfa fight will just be worth it :D

[Zaloof]

Actually I'm wondering how can Sendo move with broken ribs and why does one of Ippo's eyes have to be swollen in every match, it's practically a trademark. :XD

Ippo's right eye get swollen mostly because of his style which he instantly charge at his opponents
so he takes many lefts in his face

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

well anything better then the sisfa fight will just be worth it :D

Granted yes the Sisfa fight wasn't all that but still it pisses you off cause you quite frankly can't ignore it either. We got a glimpse of the Infinity Upper and just where Ippo can take the roll in the future.

But still i want Ippo to have a bit of trouble at first but in the end i don't want him to have as MUCH trouble as he's had in the past. We need another victory where Ippo isn't worse for wear... afterall Ippo's gotta take on the world AND we need to get over the Randy Boy fight... the wheel of destiny waits for no man after all :p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

O.o Was his opponent so weak or was he just too damn good :XD His mother shud be able to watch that match then since she will only watch when he doesn't get hit :amuse

Well i don't think his opponent was very weak at all but the thing is that Ippo just super evolved in a couple of aspects thus making him an even bigger monster then before.

Pity we don't see that side of Ippo for long though :eyeroll

[Zaloof]

Granted yes the Sisfa fight wasn't all that but still it pisses you off cause you quite frankly can't ignore it either. We got a glimpse of the Infinity Upper and just where Ippo can take the roll in the future.

But still i want Ippo to have a bit of trouble at first but in the end i don't want him to have as MUCH trouble as he's had in the past. We need another victory where Ippo isn't worse for wear... afterall Ippo's gotta take on the world AND we need to get over the Randy Boy fight... the wheel of destiny waits for no man after all :p

well im not that hyped about the Randy Boy fight, im not one of Miyata's fans. and about the Asian champions conquest. the coach just making that to give experience for international fights
and for high rankers to check him out, just like what happened to Takamura were he knocked out the 2nd seed

[Zaloof]

yep, I agree, they stop at the right place and I hope they would continue a 2nd series following the manga too. :amuse

maybe back then it wasn't as popular as compared to now.. since the manga would have attracted a lot of readers at the rate it's going.


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And I've finished watching the 76 episodes.. yeah, it's that addicting. :s I'm gonna watch Champion Road tomorrow.. I can't believe I put off watching One Piece during the weekends just to watch HnI :XD Once I start, it's hard to stop :amuse

well a manga with a 700+ chapters and ongoing it will defenittly make them continue the anime series
and when u finish reading the manga, make sure to discuss the newest chapters with us at the discussion thread, we have a low-rate posting and attention for HnI here at MH :P

[Zaloof]

I never ever considered the Aokimura fight, but it's true it would be a good match emotionally speaking... Like a little spar after a bad joke from Takamura, both guys are motivated to see who's the best in their best conditions...
And it would be funny to see how Kimura reacts to the Look Away, and how Aoki will counter the Dragon Fish Blow^^

Otherwise, i highly doubt that we will see Hawk in the ring ever again, when Eagle visited him he looked like he was broken down, to my mind he's not (and has never been) a boxer anymore.

As for what I want to see... Any fight with Vorg would be good, especially against Miyata or Mashiba.
But overall I want Ippo to fight against a real opposition, i'm fed up with cannon fodder now... C'mon, apart from Sawamura(and i'm not even sure about it), he has not taken any down since Sanada, that is around the 35th volume... what the fuck...
I hope the Gedo guy will put up some fight, at least he looks like an outboxer, which is the only type Ippo is weak against

well Takamura is always scruwing around with Aokimura, that would be funny
and about Hawks return i highly think for his return and his comeback, i wish their fight is gonna be at the heavyweights :)

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

well im not that hyped about the Randy Boy fight, im not one of Miyata's fans. and about the Asian champions conquest. the coach just making that to give experience for international fights
and for high rankers to check him out, just like what happened to Takamura were he knocked out the 2nd seed

I don't care much for Miyata myself to be honest but i do want to see where the RBJ fight goes. And the sooner i know the sooner i'll be happy.

[Zaloof]

I don't care much for Miyata myself to be honest but i do want to see where the RBJ fight goes. And the sooner i know the sooner i'll be happy.

same here, but im on RBJ's side this time, i want him to beat the living s**t out of Miyata :p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

same here, but im on RBJ's side this time, i want him to beat the living s**t out of Miyata :p

I really don't care who wins the fight but don't get me wrong... i think the fight will f'in rock! It's just that either way i don't care HOWEVER...

i'd prefer Miyata win... why? Because otherwise we'll get Hajime no Emo again :eyeroll

[Zaloof]

I really don't care who wins the fight but don't get me wrong... i think the fight will f'in rock! It's just that either way i don't care HOWEVER...

i'd prefer Miyata win... why? Because otherwise we'll get Hajime no Emo again :eyeroll

yeah, but last time when that happened was on the mashiba and miyata fight, ippo got emo because he thought mashiba cheated and didnt deserve to win, but this time if RBJ won it gonna be fair and square, just that the emo will come from miyata this time

well enough talk about miyata, seems that Gedo was pretty confident of his win, and at that part where he didnt recognize him i hoped that mori will bring Taka-Hawk when they first met

[Layzzz]

what volume comes next after they tell the story of the coach in WW2? after he fights the american what chapter/volume comes next?

thanks to anyone who helps

[Layzzz]

do you know what volume comes next after they tell the story of the coach in WW2? after he fights the american what chapter/volume comes next?

thanks to anyone who helps

[Layzzz]

well... the story started with Ippo vs Miyata. so im guessing that it will end that way to.

i have no clue if its possible but i would like to see Ippo with one of the wbo or wbc titles and miyata with the orther one. and then they can slug it out on the biggest stage with the biggest croud and i think it would be awesome.

every boxer thats been in the manga would come watch that im guessing.
awesomeness!

they fight for their titles :D

that would be the best manga ending ever!

[Zaloof]

do you know what volume comes next after they tell the story of the coach in WW2? after he fights the american what chapter/volume comes next?

thanks to anyone who helps

well the Hawk fight ends at vol 44, the ww2 epic may took 1 or 2 volumes so check after vol 46

[The Boff]

what volume comes next after they tell the story of the coach in WW2? after he fights the american what chapter/volume comes next?

thanks to anyone who helps

the story from WWII against the american ends on page 147 in volume 46.
and the chapter that follows is 415, still in volume 46

[Zaloof]

they fight for their titles :D

that would be the best manga ending ever!

that would be nice, but i doubt that mori will give us such simple ending, he always has a way to surprise us so the chances of that happening are slim

but it would be nice to see ippo whip miyata's ass

[Azurel]

yeah, but it will take me awhile to get started on the manga. My manga reading list keeps growing longer and longer :XD

[Zaloof]

yeah, but it will take me awhile to get started on the manga. My manga reading list keeps growing longer and longer :XD

make sure that HnI is the first at that list :p

[Layzzz]

do you know where I can download them volume?

[Layzzz]

^but somehow ippo and miyata are gonna have to fight again

[The Boff]

http://manga.ignition-one.com/ ddl from the scanlators


there you go

[Layzzz]

thanks alot The Boff

[Zaloof]

^but somehow ippo and miyata are gonna have to fight again

which chapter are u on now ?

[Yuzo]

yeah, but it will take me awhile to get started on the manga. My manga reading list keeps growing longer and longer :XD

Trust me man, once you start Hajime no Ippo, you will forget about every other manga on your list until you reach the current chapters...

[NiknudStunod]

This and Slam dunk are the only 2 manga I ever want to go back and read again.

[abu_89]

Most likely he steps in and out really quickly when he punches, giving the illusion of longer reach. Like all magicians, once you know how the trick works, it's not that impressive. Ippo is going to be challenging the world soon and he's going to show that in this match. Besides which, Ippo's step-in is probably the best of all the characters in this series.

[Zaloof]

my money is on his widened stance

[Zetta]

Been a while but time's almost here for the fight. Personally, I think it might have something to do with the widened stance; however, I'd rather talk about his fighting style.

I think the way he's going to fight is like how Oscar de la Hoya used to back when he was in the lower weight classes when he was known as the golden boy. He wasn't as aggressive as a boxer back then, and by the 7th to 8th rounds, the oppenent always looked like they were gonna fall over from exhaustion.

That's what I'm anticipating. Gedo seemed eager to get the match started asap. I figure he would want to cut down the ammount of available training time to cut into ippo's endurance. Like Kobashi's fight (except without taking the hits with a cross-arm block), Gedo's gonna cause Ippo to chase after him throughout the ring, always on the move. It'll look like Gedo will be in trouble, but then he'll quickly be able to parry move with stealth and quickness out of the way. Along with that, Gedo will probably attack the body of Ippo. And in the later rounds Ippo should be feeling exausted. At that point that's when Gedo will go for the knock-out. That's what I gather from his record anyway.

Also, anyone else notice how tall gedo was compared to ippo when he helped him stand up? Good thing for the Mashiba spar. Hmm, I wonder if Gedo will try to use uppercuts to stave off ippo as well.... who knows.

[AestheticHyro]

This and Slam dunk are the only 2 manga I ever want to go back and read again.

Ever read Eyeshield 21. I'm picky about what I call my favorites but this, ES21, Detective Conan and the first half of Death Note are my favorites.

I really like Naruto and might possibly like 666 Satan even more.

[The Boff]

my top three all time is:
1. Berserk
2. One Piece
3. Hajime No Ippo

ive reread them so many times ive lost count :nuts

but i wonder if its time for them to continue the HnI anime. i mean the first run was what, 76 episodes long? and that was about 270 chapters of manga.
270/76=3.alotofdigits so thats about 3 chapters to an episode.
and now chapter 767 has been released.
767-270=497 so 497 chapters to make episodes from. no wait! champion road and the other one i cant remember the name. anyways, 2 ova episodes/movies.
they were about 18 chapter each, 18*2=36
497-36=461

461 chapters that has not been animated, and if we use the same formula for about 3 chapters per episode, 461/3=153.alotofsixes

153 episodes is what they could make with the material that is released right now.
and during those 153 weeks there will be 150-ish new chapters released....

seriously, they should just make the anime!

[Azurel]

make sure that HnI is the first at that list :p
I'll try :amuse


Trust me man, once you start Hajime no Ippo, you will forget about every other manga on your list until you reach the current chapters...
That certainly happened for the anime :nuts


my top three all time is:
1. Berserk
2. One Piece
3. Hajime No Ippo

461 chapters that has not been animated, and if we use the same formula for about 3 chapters per episode, 461/3=153.alotofsixes

153 episodes is what they could make with the material that is released right now.
and during those 153 weeks there will be 150-ish new chapters released....

seriously, they should just make the anime! OP is on my reading list too, :D I only keep up with the anime, the only time I lapse was when they had those flashback fillers.

>.> yes they should!

[Azurel]

Ippo's right eye get swollen mostly because of his style which he instantly charge at his opponents
so he takes many lefts in his face Ah yes, I see what you mean :amuse His peek-a-boo style doesn't save his face from attacks.


Well i don't think his opponent was very weak at all but the thing is that Ippo just super evolved in a couple of aspects thus making him an even bigger monster then before. Super Ippo huh.. he certainly has an "incredible" growth.

[Azurel]

When Ippo was fighting Date, Miyata and Sendo were looking forward to fighting Ippo so how about a match between them instead. Miyata Vs Sendo :amuse

[Zaloof]

yeah but didnt fukui say to ippo that he lost his perception of distance in the fight, that happened to ippo in the taki fight were he changes his foot position, ippo measure distance with the foot position, but yet again i think that the coach and takamura would noticed something as simple as that :p

[Zaloof]

my top three all time is:
1. Berserk
2. One Piece
3. Hajime No Ippo

ive reread them so many times ive lost count :nuts

but i wonder if its time for them to continue the HnI anime. i mean the first run was what, 76 episodes long? and that was about 270 chapters of manga.
270/76=3.alotofdigits so thats about 3 chapters to an episode.
and now chapter 767 has been released.
767-270=497 so 497 chapters to make episodes from. no wait! champion road and the other one i cant remember the name. anyways, 2 ova episodes/movies.
they were about 18 chapter each, 18*2=36
497-36=461

461 chapters that has not been animated, and if we use the same formula for about 3 chapters per episode, 461/3=153.alotofsixes

153 episodes is what they could make with the material that is released right now.
and during those 153 weeks there will be 150-ish new chapters released....

seriously, they should just make the anime!

dont forget fillers, anime producers love this s**t

[Zaloof]

well sendo challenged miyata, but he refused he challange

[firedauz]

I'm seeing that one day Itagaki will switch gym to be with Mashiba since:
- he's one of Mashiba close's buddy now,
- it would get him even closer to Mashiba's sis,
- Itagaki has speed, and seeing how Saeki had speed AND the Hitman style, Mashiba can teach him a thing ow two since he is using that style,
- there had already been a story of Ippo's ex-junior fighting him, it can be the same with Itagaki,
- there might be a love/battle story to fight for Mashiba's sis? lol

I thought of making a topic on this, but I figure this would be better here (unless Mod thinks otherwise) ^_^

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Super Ippo huh.. he certainly has an "incredible" growth.

Well he is Big Mara afterall.... :p

[gensou]

well i visit it today and it say all file are remove indefinite, so what wrong?

[Zaloof]

itagaki switching gym.......
maybe we should start a thread about whether he's gonna change gyms or not

[Zaloof]

maybe they need to keep the site up but they didnt receive enough donations
so they had to remove the files

[abu_89]

April fools?

[NiknudStunod]

the donations page showed they had met there goal I believe.

[Zaloof]

April fools?

still too soon for that !!

[destinator]

Yeah another chapter just came out :) Get it here (http://www.mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11020).

Yeah feel free do discuss or predict now =)

[gensou]

man i wish they won't die tho.

[Zaloof]

nice chapter, that guy will sell his soul for some cash :p

[NiTrO7708]

went this morning... still off. very disappointed.
was hoping i could find other links here ...

[The Boff]

well, i was guessing that it was only a april fools thing. and it could still be that.
maybe they havent just updated their site yet, we dont know.

but if you need to DL some ippo then i suggest www.mangatraders.com
youll need an account but its free so go for it

[Zaloof]

they did release a new HnI chapter, so i go with Boff's opinion about april fools

[Zaloof]

well we had fans discussing weather itagaki is gonna leave the gym or not, and we had many hints about that happening, so what do u think :)


I'm seeing that one day Itagaki will switch gym to be with Mashiba since:
- he's one of Mashiba close's buddy now,
- it would get him even closer to Mashiba's sis,
- Itagaki has speed, and seeing how Saeki had speed AND the Hitman style, Mashiba can teach him a thing ow two since he is using that style,
- there had already been a story of Ippo's ex-junior fighting him, it can be the same with Itagaki,
- there might be a love/battle story to fight for Mashiba's sis? lol



discuss :)

[Orpheus]

I Hope that Itagaki will fight Ippo in the Future...

But let me say that I hope that this future will be very far away. Ippo stands as he is now no chance against Itagaki ( he's to much of a genius ) !!

Also to say that Itagaki got the Baton from Ippo for the Japanese Titel so he will hang a while longer with the others!!


But for the World Titel why not ^_~

[Yuzo]

I believe he won't, only because it would mean he has to fight Ippo. And Ippo would beat the shit out of him, he cannot afford to lose any more... It would ruin the momentum Itagaki has. What's more, Itagaki has never wished to fight Big Mara, so I believe such a match would be useless.

My prediction for Itagaki is that he will either move up/down a class and go for the Japanses title (but it's too easy a way out, I think Morikawa will try to avoid this, especially since Mashiba is his "buddy" : they have had lots of spars, a real match is not really needed to gauge their mutual strenght), or he will go for the world rankers right before Ippo.

Now, Itagaki is considered as a genius, and he is likely to feel restricted not being able to conquer a title because of Ippo. But he respects KBG and Ippo too much in order to betray them, so he might start fighting international people, to build his world ranking.
In the process he could even meet Sendo, who wants to do the same^^ It would also be a good way to introduce strong fighters so that they can go against Ippo later (after all, it does not mean a lot of things since Ippo and Itagaki have 2 completely different boxing styles...)

[Zaloof]

I believe he won't, only because it would mean he has to fight Ippo. And Ippo would beat the shit out of him, he cannot afford to lose any more... It would ruin the momentum Itagaki has. What's more, Itagaki has never wished to fight Big Mara, so I believe such a match would be useless.

My prediction for Itagaki is that he will either move up/down a class and go for the Japanses title (but it's too easy a way out, I think Morikawa will try to avoid this, especially since Mashiba is his "buddy" : they have had lots of spars, a real match is not really needed to gauge their mutual strenght), or he will go for the world rankers right before Ippo.

Now, Itagaki is considered as a genius, and he is likely to feel restricted not being able to conquer a title because of Ippo. But he respects KBG and Ippo too much in order to betray them, so he might start fighting international people, to build his world ranking.
In the process he could even meet Sendo, who wants to do the same^^ It would also be a good way to introduce strong fighters so that they can go against Ippo later (after all, it does not mean a lot of things since Ippo and Itagaki have 2 completely different boxing styles...)

well mostly there will be part of the manga soon were ippo and itagaki spar secretly behind kamogawa, while their sparring the atmosphere heats up and they both fight as it were a real match, kamogawa comes and stops them quickly and start to lecture them both, in itagaki's heart he feels that the light and the man he followed is near, and he wants to go ahead of him, we all saw what itagaki calls ippo that he always will follow him, then he wonders whats after that man, a whole betrayal-surpass climax will start ending a title match between these two where itagaki will be at Toho gym

[AestheticHyro]

I'm pretty sure Itagaki has no interest in Kumi Mashiba. All the reasons would be valid but right now, I don't see it happening. The reason is similar to what was stated during the fight between Itagaki and Imai; Imai chose a different gym because he wants to one day fight Ippo. Though Itagaki wants to follow behind Ippo, he gained much more support joining Kamogawa gym. Besides, it's pretty hard to want to leave a gym with a coach like Genji there.

Anyways, it's just my opinion but I don't think they'll use the same plot that already happened. Itagaki's goal has always been Ippo but his rival has always been Imai so to me, he probably won't be leaving Kamogawa until he fights Imai again (possibly for the relinquished Japanese Featherweight Championship). Another reason why I don't think he'll switch is because of the baton pass but then again, that doesn't say much considering Date passed the baton to Ippo.

[gensou]

great now the site is dead. Sigh.

[firedauz]

Hehe I see my post had been made into a thread :D

I actually can't see him fighting Ippo like... forever :p

Unless.

Ippo lost a chance for a good World Ranking chance and had to start from the bottom again.

Just like how Date was.

[firedauz]

So far we have:

- Feint with Sakki
- Liver Blow
- Gazzelle Punch
- Dempsey Roll

And maybe we can add his awesome right.
But the point is, sooner or later, he is gonna have a new weapon anyway :amuse

So, considering the size of his small body (which works well for Dempsey) plus his Turtle Strategy & Weaving Movement, the question is:

What would be his next weapon for the world ranking fights? :tem

[abu_89]

It's going to be a variation of the body shot. His biggest weakness right now is probably long range fighters with fast jabs so I'm thinking it's going to be something with an immensely fast step-in and lots of power. He might learn a defensive technique that lets him parry more often too.

[gensou]

i say super dempsey roll, with add on dash.

[Yuzo]

If he were to get a new weapon, I'd say it would be like the preparation for the Dragon Fish blow, something that enables him to enter his range easily against taller outboxers...
But what he will need the most is a somewhat defensive technique, because he SUCKS against boxers with good legs... But his style is very offensive, so maybe a Dempsey Roll-like thing, half-defensive and half-offensive, that would be the best possible technique to get... Very unlikely, though.

[gensou]

there a high chance itagaki will fight ippo tho, or he can be just a character that show miyata side of boxing.

[Kaziel]

Also think it showed how he "stretches his arm". Okay, so he was shot right? And he said he was poor, so the likelihood of getting good medical attention was low at best. He probably got the bullets removed, but the bones weren't properly set. At worse I would imagine his shoulderblade was split or possibly even shattered, thus meaning the limitation that the shoulderblade puts on the reach of someone's arm would be negated. Also, since he's most likey a righty, and he was shot in his left shoulder, he uses his left arm to jab. Those quick shots are how one gages distance of your opponent, right? A quick, long shot would throw off your whole game.

[Zaloof]

Also think it showed how he "stretches his arm". Okay, so he was shot right? And he said he was poor, so the likelihood of getting good medical attention was low at best. He probably got the bullets removed, but the bones weren't properly set. At worse I would imagine his shoulderblade was split or possibly even shattered, thus meaning the limitation that the shoulderblade puts on the reach of someone's arm would be negated. Also, since he's most likey a righty, and he was shot in his left shoulder, he uses his left arm to jab. Those quick shots are how one gages distance of your opponent, right? A quick, long shot would throw off your whole game.

so u mean his reach was artificially modified by accident in the treatment, u could be right since the wound is in his left shoulder, and yes the left is the arm to control distance

[Zaloof]

So far we have:

- Feint with Sakki
- Liver Blow
- Gazzelle Punch
- Dempsey Roll

And maybe we can add his awesome right.
But the point is, sooner or later, he is gonna have a new weapon anyway :amuse

So, considering the size of his small body (which works well for Dempsey) plus his Turtle Strategy & Weaving Movement, the question is:

What would be his next weapon for the world ranking fights? :tem

u forgot his Dempsey smash

[Zaloof]

Hehe I see my post had been made into a thread :D

I actually can't see him fighting Ippo like... forever :p

Unless.

Ippo lost a chance for a good World Ranking chance and had to start from the bottom again.

Just like how Date was.

i doubt it will be as simple as that, if the fight it wont be a kouhi-senpai BS fight, it will be a fight between true rivals, a fight that didnt happen with Miyata

[gensou]

or maybe he a southpaw that can go into the normal fighting style anytime, you know like that one guy that miyata gotta fight.

[Kaziel]

so u mean his reach was artificially modified by accident in the treatment, u could be right since the wound is in his left shoulder, and yes the left is the arm to control distanceNot so much an accident in the treatment but a byproduct of improper treatment. Let's say he had enough money to go to a proper hospital and recieve proper treatment. Getting X-Rays the doctors would have noticed the fractures in his shoulderblade, and taken steps to fix it. Since he didn't have said money, he probably just had the bullets removed, and accounted for the initial pain in his shoulder as a result of being shot (makes sense). Over time he realized he could extend his arm to unnatural distances and tried to figure out a way to make money with this talent. He may or may not have realized why he could do it.

[Zaloof]

or maybe he a southpaw that can go into the normal fighting style anytime, you know like that one guy that miyata gotta fight.

i going with Kaziel's prediction, the arm extending theory is starting to make some sense to it

[xi0]

Get the latest chapter here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=357289).

Feel free to discuss the latest chapter and make predictions

[Zaloof]

cool chapter cover
although we will have an ippo break since the next issue will be a double release, so no HnI for a couple of week's

[abu_89]

isn't it the week after next that the double issue comes out?
Can't wait for the fight, lol. I wanna see Ippo murder this fool. :P

[Zaloof]

isn't it the week after next that the double issue comes out?
Can't wait for the fight, lol. I wanna see Ippo murder this fool. :P

yeah thats exactly
man this fight must be worth all this drag

[Azurel]

I've only reached the part where Itagaki has just been introduced and the first thing that already struck me was if he's in the same class as Ippo, wouldn't there be a conflict of interest if he wants to move up?

It seems to me that the difference in strength between Itagaki (before he debuts) and Ippo (Jap Champ) is smaller than between Ippo (a Rookie King) and Date (Jap Champ)

[Zaloof]

I've only reached the part where Itagaki has just been introduced and the first thing that already struck me was if he's in the same class as Ippo, wouldn't there be a conflict of interest if he wants to move up?

It seems to me that the difference in strength between Itagaki (before he debuts) and Ippo (Jap Champ) is smaller than between Ippo (a Rookie King) and Date (Jap Champ)

if u are still in that part, then this thread is a big spoiler for u :p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

No Ippo for a while sucks largley and double issue for a couple weeks worth? Well as long as it includes all those nice fancy effects we got in the recent Ippo vs Mashiba spar then the wait will be MORE then worth it.

Also Malcom Gedo... bombs can be found within.

[gensou]

lol ippo is piss, i want to see what he do, i mean he never really angry when he fight so maybe he will murder the gedo guy, whahaha.

[Alexandrius]

It'll be an amusing fight. Not as good as a real Mashiba vs Ippo rematch, but should be entertaining. Ippo is most definitely going to win though.

[Azurel]

well, not exactly, I just skimmed through it.. Not any major spoiler, I hope :s

it is a question that already came to my mind the first time he was introduced :p

[Azurel]

and if there's anyone like me who just started on HnI, www.mangaspot.com have the older volumes from 1-68, just thought I add that :amuse

[Azurel]

Does anyone think that Itagaki's family is just super weird :XD

And I dunno if I'm messing up some stuff but I tot Takamaru was a heavyweight champ in the anime, did he went down a few classes in the anime and I didn't notice :blink becoz he was in the j. middleweight class in the world title match in the manga :s

[Zaloof]

all this drag and preperation for this fight i bet it will 2 volumes max
and we can see the modified left hand of Gedo

[Zaloof]

well, not exactly, I just skimmed through it.. Not any major spoiler, I hope :s

it is a question that already came to my mind the first time he was introduced :p

there are many things happen in HnI when Itagaki joined

also if a fight happened between Ippo and Itagaki it would be the best fight in the series(not better then Taka vs Hawk i hope :p)

[Zaloof]

if anybody wants to know what happened to the site, check p18 on their 769 HnI release, its about that their host asked them to remove the files and they are looking for a new server

[Zaloof]

Does anyone think that Itagaki's family is just super weird :XD

And I dunno if I'm messing up some stuff but I tot Takamaru was a heavyweight champ in the anime, did he went down a few classes in the anime and I didn't notice :blink becoz he was in the j. middleweight class in the world title match in the manga :s

not just weird, but freaks !!

about Takamura's class he was never a heavyweight champ because the highest class in Japan was the middleweights, he was the mid champ but he received a challenge from the world's jr middleweight 2nd seed

[gensou]

lol almost all fight are like that.

[Zaloof]

well, kind of

[Azurel]

I was under the impression that he was a heavyweight champion.. but that is his natural weight rite?

And I see that you've switched from Sawamura to Sendou :amuse

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Regarding the Ippo break i quickly whipped something up in Photoshop. I was gonna wait till somebody asked when the next chapter was released but what the hell ;p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Rayl/Eaten.jpg

Enjoy the stupidity XD

[The Boff]

And I see that you've switched from Sawamura to Sendou :amuse

which i think was a smart decision, sendo rocks way more than sawamura.

im thinking pf making a new sig too.... im just to lazy. but i have the pic for it though, i just need to edit it A LOT.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/boffenjl/ippo_vol-62_026_027.png
^that one.
resize, put them closer together, take out miyata(cause i dont like that character), put in itagaki(cause i like that character), take out all the ratings, redraw some lines, recolor all the grays.......

damn thats gonna take a while..... but someday!

[Azurel]

ah, so how come you don't like miyata? >.> too standoffish?

[KBMom]

Could be a cimbination of highly advanced parries and weaving, quick footwork. Minimal effort expended, tire out the opponent.

There's a guy at my gym (owner, actually) and frustrating as heck to be in the ring with - can't touch him. Keep missing by centimeters, and the way he moves? He's never where your punches (or kicks) are. He does this one parry for a leg kick that ends up spinning the kicker around and setting them on their butt, while he's standing there with a "what? that's all you got?" grin on his face -__-; He's so fast . . . you never quite see what's happening.

[Zaloof]

that mean we will see a "shitty" chapter next week

[Zaloof]

Could be a cimbination of highly advanced parries and weaving, quick footwork. Minimal effort expended, tire out the opponent.

There's a guy at my gym (owner, actually) and frustrating as heck to be in the ring with - can't touch him. Keep missing by centimeters, and the way he moves? He's never where your punches (or kicks) are. He does this one parry for a leg kick that ends up spinning the kicker around and setting them on their butt, while he's standing there with a "what? that's all you got?" grin on his face -__-; He's so fast . . . you never quite see what's happening.

parrying is easy and requires high concentration, but also requires touching your opponent,
if it was that easy i bet the coach would noticed that

PS:wich martial arts are u
i played boxing but now im in Kung-fu

[Zaloof]

it seems there are not a lot of sawumara fans in here, he's one of my fav characters, but ure
right sendo is way better

about ure new sig Boff it will be ultra great, with color it will be greater and im all the way with u about removing miyata off that pic

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

that mean we will see a "shitty" chapter next week

Congratulations! You've just been awarded the Itagaki Humor Award! :p

[Zaloof]

Congratulations! You've just been awarded the Itagaki Humor Award! :p

shit!! ive been infected by the itagaki poison

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

shit!! ive been infected by the itagaki poison

Stay the hell away from me! You're unclean! UNCLEEAAAAN!

[Zaloof]

speaking of itagaki, his family didnt show in he lat couple of volumes, i hope they show up again

[The Boff]

i dont really know why i dont like miyata, never did. he just doesnt work for me thats all.


and no way in hell do i have either the skills or energy to color that pic zaloof. no way.. im lazy dude :nuts

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Probably at Itagaki's next big fight. But who knows when that'll be.

[vjrizqi]

Where i can download volume 26?
plizz help me

[Zaloof]

i wish they were at ippo's current fight

[Zaloof]

i tried to color my sig, but it went all shitty too

[Zaloof]

there's a thread for all chap's of HnI, check it out

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10426

[Azurel]

Hmm.. the poll is gone now..

But so far, I like Sendo, Vorg, Date and Ippo.

Takamura is a big pervert >.> but he's one funny ass character too! he should let his hair down once in awhile, only then will he look human :XD

[Zaloof]

Hmm.. the poll is gone now..

But so far, I like Sendo, Vorg, Date and Ippo.

Takamura is a big pervert >.> but he's one funny ass character too! he should let his hair down once in awhile, only then will he look human :XD

the coolest part of Taka is when he had his hair down, still takes a lot of guts to show up onfront people with a hairstyle like that

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Hmm.. the poll is gone now..

But so far, I like Sendo, Vorg, Date and Ippo.

Takamura is a big pervert >.> but he's one funny ass character too! he should let his hair down once in awhile, only then will he look human :XD

I take Taka's hair falling down as a sign that he's in super badass mode. Because let's face it... remember the first time it happened? He more or less became an in-ring super god.

[Azurel]

he totally kicks hawk ass with his hair down.. nothing wrong with that hairstyle, I happen to like his hair down than his trademark hairstyle, he looks much cooler :D

Sendo's hair is nice too ^^

Miyata's hair is like a school boy's hair :XD

Don't get me wrong I dun have a hair fetish >.<

[Zaloof]

he totally kicks hawk ass with his hair down.. nothing wrong with that hairstyle, I happen to like his hair down than his trademark hairstyle, he looks much cooler :D

Sendo's hair is nice too ^^

Miyata's hair is like a school boy's hair :XD

Don't get me wrong I dun have a hair fetish >.<

Aoki's hairstyle was good too :p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Aoki's hairstyle's are good too :p


Corrected ;p

[Zaloof]

Vorg's new hairstyle is nice (check out the newest chapter cover)

[sangai]

ignition 1 isn't dead, unfortunatly there service provider for there server asked them to remove there files off there storage.. theyh are looking for a new place to store HNI ...i look forward to there return...

BTW ain't it time for another release some time this week?

[Zaloof]

BTW ain't it time for another release some time this week?

no, HnI will have a 2-3 weeks break for the double release

[BlitzRonin]

I belive that we may get a chapter this Saturday... then get another week off, then another one the Saturday after that since it's a double issue.

[BlitzRonin]

Yeah, but the only problem is that the third guy was white on the Volume 75 cover...

So he's either from Australia, New Zealand or a foreigner living in one of the Asian Countries.

[Zaloof]

I belive that we may get a chapter this Saturday... then get another week off, then another one the Saturday after that since it's a double issue.

Hey Blitz :D, long time no see :p


so we will have 2 double releases

[Zaloof]

Yeah, but the only problem is that the third guy was white on the Volume 75 cover...

So he's either from Australia, New Zealand or a foreigner living in one of the Asian Countries.

leading to one possible solution.....................Arnie :p

[BlitzRonin]

It seems like the crew was in the position to tell him their discovery of RBJr's identity... maybe smoothing over relations with the Miyata's, but then all of a sudden Kamogawa got arrested..

I don't think they ever got around to telling him about what they found out..

What do you guys think? Will they tell him a few months before Miyata's match? That might work out for the best because he could help them with their final prep. He's going to want to get in on this, as Miyata Sr. was his prized fighter back in the day and probably won't want history to repeat itself.

[Zaloof]

im sure that Kamogawa know about RBJ, even though there wasnt a part that he was told about him

[Yuzo]

I don't think it really matters... Even if he would like to help them, he will never contact them, he's too proud to forgive them for what they did to Ippo...
He may care about Miyata, but he cares more about Ippo, that's a sure thing. He cut off links with a guy he has known for years just because the fight was cancelled !!

The only way to actually help would be to send Yagi to deliver a message or something, but it would be pointless, Miyata Sr knows his job, I can't see how Kamogawa could help on this one...

But as far as I'm concerned, he has still not been told (even though I have a feeling he remembered RBJ's face some time after he first saw him, and already knows somehow...)

[KBMom]

Kickboxing is my sport - though I'm not terribly good at it.

Reading Ippo has actually helped me with several aspects, from guard to parry to shifting. ^_^

I'll hold to the parry option though, because I've seen someone in total control work it; fantastic.

[ilovespamusubi]

two things might happen Martinez kills miyata in the ring or miyata dies from heat stroke(excessive weight loss) before the fight with martinez. I see miyata dying from heat stroke a lot more likely with his excessive and dangerous way of losing weight.
i say the story ends with Ippo fighting Martinez. Ippo winning for his dead friend , Miyata . at the end of the fight he finds out what it means to be strong.

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

Hmm... we can't really be sure until the fight actually starts to come round.

If he doesn't know then i'm gonna enjoy the beating everyone's gonna recieve when he does find out and also knows that everybody didn't tell him.

[mageofdeath]

two things might happen Martinez kills miyata in the ring or miyata dies from heat stroke(excessive weight loss) before the fight with martinez. I see miyata dying from heat stroke a lot more likely with his excessive and dangerous way of losing weight.
i say the story ends with Ippo fighting Martinez. Ippo winning for his dead friend , Miyata . at the end of the fight he finds out what it means to be strong.
miyata is about to fight what looks like his last featherweight bout against that ambidextrous guy so he'll never get a shot at martinez, ippo v. martinez will definately be coming soon but I think the last fight will be a rematch of vorg and sendo for the #1 contender to fight ippo and then the manga will end...

[Sendo-san35]

hi, just joined big HnI fan, favourite anime and current favourite manga.

Sendo rocks like no other but Miyata close behind, no one can touch Taamura cuz he's god for kicking the lilttle kids before the David Eagle fight.

the manga needs more Sendo (Hajime no Sendo :p , title would makes no sense but oh well)

that is all for now.

[Lucifer]

i think the series will end with a major championship tournament.

Miyata wins his fight against the intern champ and moves on to the first rank of WBA. meanwhile Ippo keeps on defeating national champions and becomes 2nd rank. they have there fight at long last for the OPBF title. Ippo wins(of course) and starts getting ready for the championship carnaval where he'll fight Martinez. after the defeat Miyata moves up to lightweight so he doesn't have to do as much weight control anymore and also quickly becomes the 1st rank.

in the meantime, Vorg has become the world champ in the junior lightweight and Mashiba has moves up to be the 1st rank.

so i think the series final will be a giant championship carnaval with Takamura getting his 6th title, Mashiba and Vorg fighting it out over the junior lightweight belt, Miyata(easily) becoming world champ of the lightweights and at the real finnals, the Ippo VS Martinez fight, with Ippo winning. maybe afterwards he'll finally get to ask Kumi out too.

oh, and somewhere along the way, Itagaki will probably become the Japanese champ in Ippo's place.

[Azurel]

hey sendo ^^ Zaloof must be happy that another person has join the ranks :XD and u're obviously a sendo fan :amuse so have you read till the current chapter? I'm still stuck somewhere in the middle coz I strayed to D.GrayMan and finished it to the latest already so going back to HnI now :D

[Sendo-san35]

Yes, I have read to the current chapter, I don't ever miss a new chapter when it comes out.

I read lots of other manga's but HnI always comes 1st.

[Sendo-san35]

Ippo and Miyata have their fight finally, Miyata wins and moves up one weight-class to take on Vorg for one of the other world titles, Vorg wins, oh no for Miyata he's heart-broken but Miyata becomes the other world champion, Mashiba get to be OBPF champion then will move up to take on Vorg where Vorg wins again after the new Wolf Fang is shown (4 hits :p )

Sendo is new the OPBF champion after Miyata dropped the belt, Sendo challenges Martinez way too early and like Date got his ass kicked (sadly).

Ippo after suffering his 2nd defeat, takes another long break from Boxing, watches Sendo fight Martinez and is shocked by the level once again. as a new stepping stone he gets the world title belt that Martinez doesn't have, will challenge Martinez in time but thats for the end, where Ippo pulls off the biggest upset ever or is killed in the ring.

Takamura is forced to retire after getting his 5th title and falls short of 6th belt, Aoki and Kimura pay in the end like always.

Itagaki and Hammer Nao fight over the Japanese Title after Ippo finally drops it, the battle of the two kouhai's. (This is my personally 100% percent chance bet of happening, bank on it)

[Sendo-san35]

I don't think its Arnie because of the hair looks different, I don't know who it could be.

With Jimmy didn't we see enough of Miyata's old opponents for now? I say yes. Lets Arnie return later.

[Zaloof]

I don't think its Arnie because of the hair looks different, I don't know who it could be.

With Jimmy didn't we see enough of Miyata's old opponents for now? I say yes. Lets Arnie return later.

why not, he is the only white man that was introduced in the OPBF

[Zaloof]

hi, just joined big HnI fan, favourite anime and current favourite manga.

Sendo rocks like no other but Miyata close behind, no one can touch Taamura cuz he's god for kicking the lilttle kids before the David Eagle fight.

the manga needs more Sendo (Hajime no Sendo :p , title would makes no sense but oh well)

that is all for now.

WELCOME TO MH'S OWN HNI FORUMS

and also a sendo fan, things cant get ant better :D

[Zaloof]

Ippo and Miyata have their fight finally, Miyata wins and moves up one weight-class to take on Vorg for one of the other world titles, Vorg wins, oh no for Miyata he's heart-broken but Miyata becomes the other world champion, Mashiba get to be OBPF champion then will move up to take on Vorg where Vorg wins again after the new Wolf Fang is shown (4 hits :p )

Sendo is new the OPBF champion after Miyata dropped the belt, Sendo challenges Martinez way too early and like Date got his ass kicked (sadly).

Ippo after suffering his 2nd defeat, takes another long break from Boxing, watches Sendo fight Martinez and is shocked by the level once again. as a new stepping stone he gets the world title belt that Martinez doesn't have, will challenge Martinez in time but thats for the end, where Ippo pulls off the biggest upset ever or is killed in the ring.

Takamura is forced to retire after getting his 5th title and falls short of 6th belt, Aoki and Kimura pay in the end like always.

Itagaki and Hammer Nao fight over the Japanese Title after Ippo finally drops it, the battle of the two kouhai's. (This is my personally 100% percent chance bet of happening, bank on it)

nice conclusion, even though it resembles a lot AnJ

[Zaloof]

Hmm... we can't really be sure until the fight actually starts to come round.

If he doesn't know then i'm gonna enjoy the beating everyone's gonna recieve when he does find out and also knows that everybody didn't tell him.

getting into jail again also :p

[Zaloof]

Kickboxing is my sport - though I'm not terribly good at it.

Reading Ippo has actually helped me with several aspects, from guard to parry to shifting. ^_^

I'll hold to the parry option though, because I've seen someone in total control work it; fantastic.

im in T.O.J, its kind of a kung-fu that manipulates distance

sh*t, spaming again :p

[Kazuo Kiriyama]

getting into jail again also :p

Which leads to prison antics with Takamura! The audience cannot lose!

[Lucifer]

a bit of topic i know, but i just have to ask.

what is this AnJ manga is see so many people revering too? is it something similar to HnI or something(as in a lot of character development and great fights)?

[Zaloof]

a bit of topic i know, but i just have to ask.

what is this AnJ manga is see so many people revering too? is it something similar to HnI or something(as in a lot of character development and great fights)?

AnJ is the first boxing manga that been created, morikawa referenced a lot of his work for HnI, like the invincible champion ricardo martinez was in AnJ Jose mendoza, and also Sendo was a more of a copy to the hero of AnJ, Joe Yabuki, there's a lot of similarities that will take forever if i mentioned it now

[Zaloof]

Which leads to prison antics with Takamura! The audience cannot lose!

becoming more detective Conan, and less HnI

[Sendo-san35]

nice conclusion, even though it resembles a lot AnJ

thanks, but I never read AnJ

[Sorata]

Well Myata and Ippo will never fight, because Myata will only made another fight as a feather weight, and in the end i think Sendo will lose to Martinez, and Ippo will win against Martinez and will ask Kumi out, and the final chapter will be Ippo preparing for is first world tittle defense, and the last page will be Sendo and Ippo in the ring with all the other characters watching it. I think he will step in the ring with Sendo once again becuse, Mori Sensei as teeling us during the manga that Sendo and Ippo are fated to meet in the ring once again.

[bax]

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