Hajime no Ippo by Morikawa Jyoji

[Mandrake]

Gracias

[Azurel]

Heart is the target, obviously^^

First a good punch to break through Gedo's guard, and then...Ippo medically kills him for seconds with a Heartbreak Shot^^ Ooo.. that was right on the mark! i guess the clue was when coach mention to "stop his time".

[Azurel]

So Ippo finally hit his own style of heartbreak shot and instilled fear in Gedo. Hah, he's self-destructing! but Ippo seems to be in a really bad state. Maybe Kamogawa will slap Ippo's back with his ice cold hands? :p j/k

[Azurel]

well, HnI is pretty well explained but really straightforward so I suppose there is little to discuss. But there's still the match line up and predictions of match outcome or moves used to talk abt. :amuse

[Nami]

Hmmm...seems like the Chap 784 LQ by Ignition One is out. However, I only have the Online Link here (http://ippo-online2.confusticated.com/784.html). You guys can check it out there. :)

[spike]

No Problem. :D

[imintheradio]

thanks
[hr]
hi dude,is it chapter 783 and 784 out already? where can i get it? waiting so long for it (^=^)

[Azurel]

it's not released yet I think but u can read it at http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/

[imintheradio]

really thanks azurel,this is damn good manga!!

[Nami]

Round 786 RAW~thanks to Reiu~

Weekly Shonen (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17112)


You can now discuss this latest Chapter or post the translation/scanlations that you have found here! :)

Scanlation

Chap 786 by by Optimist & Hamstar (http://www.mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18338)|| (RS) (http://rapidshare.com/files/55892687/ippo_768.rar)



In case you guys still hasn't read the last chapter, you can read up Chap 785 by Ignition One (http://ippo-online2.confusticated.com/785.html) here (Online). ^^

[DrunkDragon]

Thanks

[imintheradio]

cool..wwaiting so long for this and suddenly,here it is..thanks dudes!

[onefjeff]

Thanks so much

[Optimist]

any translation ?

[holmes221]

Thank u so much for this !! yeah support Ignition One

[godofthesunn]

it will never end

[Sorata]

Mr.T: Myata will never fight Sendo, because the match against Randy will be the last match that Myata will made as a feather-weight(that´s the great reason why the match against Ippo will never happen). And Vorg is participating in the IBF, and japanese boxers only have access to the WBA(Date had a match against Martinez - the WBA champion) and to the WBC(Takamura is the current Middleweigt champion of the WBC), so Mashiba will never fight Vorg(unless of course that Vorg wants to be undesputed champion - Boxers who have the 3 tittles at the same time, WBA, WBO and IBF).

[redmage0416]

Thank you =]

[Meno]

Thanks for this.

[Yuzo]

Yah, another hellish body blow from Ippo, Gedo won't recover from that one !!
Time to go for the kill and win the 3 million pot :)

[Gunheart]

that was really awesome. Thanks Nami!

[itachi2510]

thanks for the raw!

[Optimist]

until we get Ignition one scanlation, here is mine

MQ scanlation by me & Hamstar
http://rapidshare.com/files/56210028/ippo_786.rar

enjoy ^^

[Nami]

Hi Everyone!

The raws for Round 787 is out!
Get it at the Weekly Shonen Thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17112)- thanks to Reiu.

This thread is now open for discussion once the scanlation is out. You can post the scanlation here when you found it and discuss about it.

That's all folks! :)

[redmage0416]

SWWWWWWEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT. Thank you soooooo much =]

[murk]

w00t!

[hatsuharupeace]

thanks!!!!

[imintheradio]

wau,so fast and really cant wait for this one..anyhow,thanks so much guys!!

[onefjeff]

Thanks for this!

[ironthought]

Gary Coleman says "thanks for the ippo scan this is a great series. Willis and I used to watch the anime while Mr. Drumman wasnt looking, but if he caught us he would beat us like Mashiba san"

[TimCat]

I can't get this to download. Bah

[godofthesunn]

I can't get this to download. Bah

Seconded

[Lemonadez]

Cant download it -.-

[imintheradio]

me too,cant download it..any reason?

[Darthozzan]

Awesome chapter. Thanks alot!

[sharingan_kakashi]

Mediafire used to work for me but this one wont. can anyone make a different link pls.

[arrra]

Same here, can't download HNI or Air Gear, i can download the Fairy Tail file tough =/
But thanks anyway!! =)

[EvilSniffles]

if someone who has downloaded it could upload it for us it would be greatly appreciated.

[SskillzX]

I finished the anime. Where do I go from there.

[godofthesunn]

I found a scan of Ippo via www.dynamiteglove.com http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/

[venicia777]

Chapter cleaned by Franky House. Need a translation.

[The Boff]

I finished the anime. Where do I go from there.




i would start reading volume 31, its directly after the fight and thats where the anime ended.
so go for volume 31!

how about reading a few posts before asking the same question?

[hamstar]

omgomg that's the coolest sig thing ever sharingan kakashi

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Sweet chapter. Looks like Gedo is finally on his last legs, or off them, although I'd guess he'll get back up in 788 only to get Ippowned.

[fluke32]

I can't access the site. Even www.confusticated.com doesn't work anymore...

What happened? They got pinged to death or something?

[abu_89]

it's back.

[Peridan]

Listen, I've been a fan of this manga for a few years now.

I just saw the 788th chapter, and I just wanted to give a shout out to all those involved in translating this story for us non-japanese speaking folks. Honestly, I really want to thank all of those amazing translators from Ignition-One to Franky House from the bottom of my heart.

Cheesy, I know, but words cannot express my gratitude.

[aminas]

In what volume is chapter 423 and what volume is it just after the fight between Kimura and Mashiba?

and while were at it whats your favorite move in the series, me I just love the dempsy role its f*cking kick ass

[sangai]

chapter 423 is from volume 47at least thats what it is in my collection.

the fight with mashiba and kimura well damn its been a while...

gonna take me a while on that one for the mashiba fight.

whole series is good..

[aminas]

domo arigato mr(s).sangai

[sangai]

*points at gender symbol i would be a dude.

you may call me "the dude" or sang.

[aminas]

okey...dude

[kilua]

when will ippo finaly make a move on kumi-chan??
its so anoying im in vol 47 right now and he just made the confession a few vols ago but... theres still nothing betwind them! not even a kichi "I love you" ><

please, tell me that he will make a move on her(and by that I mean confession, kissing, etc...) please tell me it wont be like that for the rest of the serie>,<

[sangai]

ATM nothing man. we will see the chapters keep coming out.

[kilua]

hmm, were you talking to me?OO~

[Azurel]

And after 2 months since this last post, no one else has posted. wow. I felt like I left behind a legacy. :XD jk

[Azurel]

is it just me or has the story moved really slow... :s

[Yuzo]

You're right, it's not really going fast, and Morikawa already promised us so much to see in the near future...
I mean, we have Aoki and Kimura's A Class Tournament, Itagaki's too, Mashiba's World Title Match, Ippo's last OPBF opponent, and overall Miyata versus Randy Boy Jr... Not to mention Sendo/Martinez, and Itagaki's progress in Kamogawa Hierarchy^^ As well as Takamura conquering another weight class...

The point is, even if it's moving slowly, i'm not getting bored, and the suspens built up will make those fights much better when they finally come ! That's as skilled as Morikawa is :)

I agree Ippo should make a bold move on Kumi rapidly though... -_- That or Itagaki's sister becoming a real threat to Kumi :)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

This new chapter gives more focus to Mashiba's OPBF title match. But we just got new info about Randy Boy Jr a few chapters ago, and we're finding out more and more about the Class A Tournament. Looks like the manga is going to be pretty busy these coming months.

[BlitzRonin]

Yeah we can look forward to the Class A and Randy Vs Miyata for sure...

If it's Randy Vs Miyata first though... that's an epic match on the caliber of Takamura Vs Hawk and Ippo Vs Sawamura.... it will probably take a good many months in real time to conclude...

I bet it will be 20 chapters at the very least.

[MadaraUchiha1]

look on onemanga.com

[MadaraUchiha1]

Where is chapter 798 is it out yet? if so, where can I find it?


Thanks

[KingPyro]

i got a feeling that something bad will happen during his fight with randy boy jr... but so far it just seems like he is beating the crap out of him....

geko called randy a genius and i got a feeling that he will stick up to that tittle can kick itagaki's arse and almost ruining his boxing career but then ippo stops the match... it would be interesting to see how the story will go if that actually happens tho...

if that did happen then something in the future will change itagaki and he will change gyms and go for ippo's tittle...

another thing that can happen is that itagaki loses the spar and randy boy jr beats miata... then itagaki realises that he wants to face ippo for some reason, switch gyms then challenges randy boy jr for the obf tittle and winds... that way ippo will end up fighting itagaki...

[SabiQ]

look on mangaupdates for this stuff...if theres no 798 release there it means no ones released it yet...

[Yuzo]

Nah, Itagaki won't be heavily injured from a mere spar, even though levels are too different.
I know Randy is supposed to have heavy fists, but it's not like he's the only one we've seen like that ! Ippo has much more strenghth and he doesn't kill his sparring partners...

I say Itagaki is "only" gonna have problems dodging RBJ with his speed alone : that will show Randy Boy can handle fast opponents. Miyata will have one of his 2 major weapons sealed, and will rely solely on his counter (and that's what the whole fight is about, right? )


About Itagaki/Ippo, it's not gonna happen, at least not for the belt. Itagaki already clearly stated that he would wait for Ippo to relinquish it.
and YES he has a lot of respect for his sempai. He's humble too, so i just can't see him leaving KBG (unless he actually rivals RBJ and wants to see how good he really is on the world stage, but it's very unlikely)

[AestheticHyro]

Would someone be able to translate it?

[notBowen]

What is that? I WANT TO DIVE LOST MIND?

[Crayola]

no, the yuuzora no Kamihikouki song is one of the ending songs. Like when Ippo won the championship against Sendo in the finals, they played the song in the background there too.

[AestheticHyro]

Yeah, it's the first ending song and plays in the background at the end of most matches.

[Rock_Leeroy]

i think it's pretty obvious Itagaki vs Ippo will eventually happen, it's just a matter of when and how?. Itagaki is pretty sick right now but i dont think he can beat Ippo yet. but it will definately happen in the future but not the near future.

[Rock_Leeroy]

ah, there's so many possibilities >.<

well, about miyata's weight management, I think he will move up a class sooner or later because (1) Taka is not human, you can't compare him to any other boxer :p (2) Miyata is still a growing teen so I suppose that should make it harder for weight management (p.s how old are these boxers actually :XD)

because of that, miyata most probably won't fight with ippo, as much as i want to see them fight, i somehow don't think they ever will, probably not fated :p i think he will win the match against randy jr, move up the ranks to fight martinez but he will be defeated because he failed his weight management so he has to entrust ippo to win the championship instead and he moves up a class.

maybe taka would face some really tough opponents since aside from the champions, all other boxers that he fought with weren't much of a problem :s

and sendo and ippo would fight to the top and finally fight each other for the 1st seed to fight martinez. fighting martinez is the most expected outcome. if this series ends without ippo fighting martinez it would be blasphemy!

Miyata is about 21 atm so he wont be growing, Championship Fights are only 12 rounds, and Light Middleweight is Takamura's first class so i dont think anyone who started as featherweight would move up that much. just wanted to clear some things up.

[Borgenstrand]

I agree that they will fight, but i think that Itagaki is not strong enough yet. Yes he is much faster, but can he run 10 rounds from Ippo? Don´t think so, not yet anyway. In a 3 round spar, yes Itagaki will win.

[Cäе]

im really mad that ******* randy's manager didin't let the fight roll ¬¬"

[Borgenstrand]

Yep, that spar would really be interesting.

How much chance does Miyata really have on an Outboxer destroyer do you guys think? :)

[sharingan_kakashi]

Yep, that spar would really be interesting.

How much chance does Miyata really have on an Outboxer destroyer do you guys think? :)

Id say Ippo has about twice as much a chance to win against Randy than Miyata. I bet Miyata will win though. REVENGE is a meal best served Cold.

[The Boff]

As the title says, how far away from the end of HnI do you think we are right now?

me i would say something like 600 chapters. and thats if the focus stays heavily on Ippo.
cause if the pace keeps going as it is right now with Takamuras matches, AoiKiomura fights and Itagaki rise to fame then i would have to raise the chaptercount to about 1000 chapters.

your guess?

[Hiruma Youichi]

i don't know but i wish it wouldn't stop because this is my favourite manga :D

[Inkovic]

It'll end with a heavyweight championship fight between Ippo and Takamura.

[Hiruma Youichi]

LMAO!! i don't think that will be happening.

I think Nekota Will Die :(

[Hiruma Youichi]

i really want to see Itagaki Vs Maezono the south paw because itagaki hasn't faced a south paw yet :D

[Mr. T]

If Couch Kamogawa desires to take the long road to the world title with Ippo, Ippo will fight many battles (but maybe he encounters R. B. Junior sooner or later). In fact Takamura has to raise to the heavywight world title and Itagaki has to become an opponent to Ippo + Miyata's and (fortunately) Sendou's and Vorg's (Vorg = fav. character) story. This would be around 600 chapters in my opinion. 1000 chapters are exaggerated.

[Yuzo]

It'll end with a heavyweight championship fight between Ippo and Takamura.

LOL

Impossible, but would be fun !!

However i do believe Ippo will at least have a "real" spar with Takamura in order to prepare for a match with Martinez. He's the only one.

[notBowen]

Alcoholic punchdrunk Ippo beats his wife Kumi to death in a fit of rage before taking his own life.

[Hiruma Youichi]

Ippo don't Even Drink Alcahol =|

[KuwabaraTheMan]

When you look at how long the series has gone so far, and how much is left to get accomplished, I see it maybe being only halfway done.

After all, Takamura still has 4 more weight classes to conquer. Ippo has to rise up to the World, conquer that, and have a rematch with Miyata, while fighting Randy Boy Junior on the way. There's still plenty left to do with Kimura, Aoki and Itagaki as well.

[Searinghawk]

Actually the place ignition-one has all their download links (both torrents and direct downloads) and updates, and not the online viewers, is at http://www.dynamiteglove.com/. The new ignition-one site is only for the online viewer. Dynamite Glove is the actual place where they post all their new releases. Just go into the forum and go to the "HnI Chapter Discussions" and you can find the chapter links in each of the corresponding threads. Hope that helps.

[NeoShweaty]

I stopped reading HnI a good time ago but i think i want to get into it again. Can anyone tell me what chapter Ippo's fight against Jimmy Shispher (or however you spell that scarface guy who fought Miyata, i think)?

[SoulReaporKoul]

It starts in Chapter 727, hope you get back into it, it's a great manga

[NeoShweaty]

Oh, you don't have to tell me how great it is. I just haven't been as into manga as i used to be (i was obsessed with the stuff and have the manga in japanese at home to prove it), so it is hard to stay focused as actually read it.

Thanks for the chapter.

[ClowN]

hey guys i need to find what chapters is it when takamura found the insect in his sh*t? that was hilarious, also the chapter where takamura and ippo were having an arm wrestle?
thanks

[Cluclu]

This is chapter 358 inside volume 40.

[Paik4Life]

New chapter version 1 (an updated version will be posted later) by Ignition-One can be found here on their online viewer:

http://www.confusticated.com/ignition-one/Hajime_no_Ippo/808/01/1100/1

~Paik

[happyfamily]

Where i can download volume 26?
plizz help me


You can get all volume including 26 here

Hajime no Ippo (http://mirror1.homeunix.com/manga/index.php?path=Hajime%20no%20Ippo/)

[shinigamiboy]

I do believe that miyata and ippo will fight, but not in an official match. Everything will be done properly, but weightclasses will not matter so miyata can fight at his best condition.
Fight prediction will be miyata starting off winning, but then ippo comes back, then a split ssecond before ippo connects a KO punch Miyata will coutner. KO!! ippo loses...
lol... i know it has a very high chance for this not to happen, but thats the wayi think it iwll happen

[godofthesunn]

Ippo will end when the writer for ippo dies before the story is finished.. thats the only way this beast will end.. with so many fights to go and with a limited number of chapters released each year.. we can only hope it finishes... I can already say the next fight between miyata and randy may take 10 chaps..

Really the problem is there are too many fighters now and morikawa has to figure out if he wants to give them all the justice they need or let some of the kamogawa guys not get their last shining fight.. if we think about the over all theme of ippo it 1) to get stronger, 2) fight miyata .. really thats what this is all about so the guy above me has a good idea for a end but at this point if the morikawa continues how he did the past 400 chaps or so then it will be another 400 or so before we get a good conclusion..

[Neuroff]

Does anyone know of a site with all the volume covers?

[Succubus]

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=854253&postcount=69

[ArcticPhoenix91]

Hey people can anyone tell me how's the manga and anime relates? What with the anime sequels and all, I'm so confused..

[Neuroff]

Thanks, I would have thought it would be in this forum.

[Neuroff]

The OVA then the movie directly follow the anime, so the anime (with the OVA and movie) covers the first 314 chapters.

[eni]

Hm, I need to quote since I don't know that either. Spoilers ahead :amuse


The anime series has two spin-off movies that were actually part of the manga. Champion Road, which takes place after Ippo becomes the Japanese Featherweight Champion and showcases his first defense of the title, and Kimura Vs. Mashiba, which pits one of Ippo's senpai (upper classmen) Kimura against the Japanese lightweight champion Mashiba (the brother of Ippo's love interest).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Spirit_(manga)


The anime covers up to Ippo's first title defense (Vol. 35 of the manga). Because of this, major character Itagaki Manabu is not included in the anime, as he was not yet introduced by that point in the story.

The characters Kimura Tatsuya and Mashiba Kumi are introduced slightly earlier than in the manga, and Kimura's fight against Mashiba Ryou takes palce after the Makunouchi vs. Sanada fight instead of before it (the final OVA covers this fight).
Hajime no Ippo: Champion Road (はじめの一歩 Champion Road) was a TV Special for the Hajime no Ippo anime, first aired April 18, 2003 as part of NTV's Friday Road Show. It covered Ippo's first title defence match as the Japanese Featherweight Champion.

It was followed by the OVA Extra Round: Kimura vs. Mashiba, although in the manga story the events in the OVA take place first.
http://ippo.wikia.com/wiki/Hajime_no_Ippo_%28anime%29

[ArcticPhoenix91]

Oh, okay. Thanks guys : )

[BigCamaro]

After beating RBJ, Miyata is going to go Junior Light Weight. Ippo will be upset since this means they can never fight, but its also him being selfish as its necessary for Miyata to do. Ippo will move on fight world class opponents including Vorg. In a rematch with Sendo though, Sendo finally beats him, and goes on to fight Martinez first.

Martinez destroys Sendo, then Ippo vows revenge. Ippo trains one on one with Takamura (Now the Cruiser Weight Title holder), for the World Featherweight title. After a long grueling battle, in which Ippo would have lost by decision, he drops him within the last minute of the last round.

They skip ahead a couple years, Ippo who has defended his belt a few times has now moved on to the junior light weights, and is challenging the world title holder, Miyata. The series ends with them crossing gloves.

[LaughingMan]

I don't see this manga ever ending, until Takamura retires lol. And that ain't ever gonna' happen.

[LaughingMan]

That is a very hard question to answer. If Hajime no Ippo can maintain it's popularity and avoid being canceled prematurely; I would guess around 400 more chapters. The entire Kawamura gym has a ways to go before they accomplish their goals though, so it could be even lengthier than that.

[sabret00the]

Itagaki versus Hoshi
Makunouchi versus Gedo
Takamura versus Eagle
Itagaki versus Makino
Makunouchi versus Karasawa

[Succubus]

my favorite takamura vs Hawk so far.. wat an amazing match, it gives me chills

[Sorata]

my favorite takamura vs Hawk so far.. wat an amazing match, it gives me chills

I agrre, i read tons of fighting and shonen manga, but Takamura vs Hawk is the best fight, it send chills down my spinne too, great emotion portraited during the entire fight:
the fight itself, Nekota crying, Takamura aknolding Hawk´s strength, it´s unbelivble, really a great piece of art.

[conan]

This is a hard one, with so many good fights its really hard to choose, but my favorite is definitely ippo vs sendo japanese title match, I cant help it, every time I watch the final scene in it in the anime and the song starts and they start pounding each other with their best punches I get goosebumps.

second is the vorg vs ippo fight in the a class tournament, I loved the gazelle punch its one of my favourite techniques, a tie at second is the sawamura ryuhei vs ippo, this one was a hard one, they both battered each other almost to death.

its hard for me to decide after that, but one of my favourites that I think no one mentioned is the fight between ippo and shimabukuro, the fight itsself wasnt as impressive as the others but the lead up to it made up for all that.

takamura's fights are hard for me to judge, the guy either leaves you stunned or banging your head against the wall, while being stunned after the hawk fight, he went and said his famous line and shouted it to the whole japanese nation, which left me banging my head against the wall, the guys crazy, thank god for kamogawa genji who keeps him on a leash.

[ArcticPhoenix91]

Okay guys, please help me if any of you play VB2, tell me a good way to play:
1.Ippo
2.Aoki
3.Miyata
Thanx, thanx very much!

[dchen24]

What happened to the 2 followers of Aoki? I was reading the manga and suddenly they just disappeared O.O

[brunoq]

It's official, a new tv series is being produced and it's going to air soon!

The news was brought by the latest manga and is going to continue from the Mashiba X Kimura Fight!!!

HELL YEAH!

FINALLYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

[Mamoru]

I believe that it is coming out in Jan 09, but unsure of how many episodes will be brought out.

Here's a link:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-09-15/hajime-no-ippo-reportedly-to-return-to-tv-in-january

This news is huge with World Title fights coming up.

[shades7000]

Yeah that's what i heard too it's gonna start from from the OVA and movie, so it's gonna start with the fight against Hammer Nao, or better known as Geromichi, sweet!

[Bucks]

Thanks for making that clear. I thought that they would start over again from episode 1. Good to know that is not the case, because either way you look at it, it was epic.

[CeZ ®]

omg I'm drooling over here! I just couldn't get enough of the anime when I saw it, and I was dissappointed that it ended so soon (comparing to the manga).

tl;dr FUCKYEAH NEW HAJIME ANIME

[BlackHair]

The last time I remember them beaten up by the fake trainer. Good question dude, I totally forget about them xD

[BlackHair]

Thats some big fukking awesome news.

So we are gonna see Ricardo vs Datte and Takemura vs Hawk? words can't describe how I feel right now.. just awesome :D

thx for news

[shinigamiboy]

thats great news, I wonder if this anime will last over 100 episodes.

[The Boff]

jesus tittyfucking christ!!!!!!

this is awesome!!!

how have i missed this? HOW????

this is going to be legen- wait for it.........
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DARY!!!
Legendary baby, yeah!

[tailender1]

OMG this is one of the best anime... i wish they would continue another season of HNI

[Ichido Reichan]

Cause this manga title should be over long time ago, how many times Ippo has to defend his title? the story is dragging out so much, at least Baki is still working on his goal, George morikawa just doesn't know how to let go, huh?

please give peace to the dead horse...

[BlackHair]

I tried to watch Baki (anime) but I dropped it. Since he (human) fights a yeti or sth bare- handed. I don't like series, which should be drawn in normal senses, but are drawn with super power. I mean how stupid is that to fight a yeti-like monster and to sell it as a normal sport story ?! xD

HnI has many character with their own shines moments and their personal goals. Thus many different personalties the manga is attracting reader and not to mention the comedy beside the serious story progress.

If u don't like it 'cause the story is not only focused on Ippo and therefore the manga is dragged along, then stop reading it! I don't get what u r trying to do with this thread in this forum section.

And if u would have read the manga carefully u would have noticed that Ippos goal was firstly to fight Miyata and not the world. He then changed his goal, since Miyata was focused on Randy around chapter 700, If I remember correctly.

[a_nevels666]

lol, trying to start something Ichido?

Although I do feel HnI is dragging on somewhat, I don't think it should have ended, but I do think some more stuff could have happened already. Every time it seems like the story will move forward, but instead a slightly stronger new opponent shows up.

Ironically Grappler Baki has pretty much the same problem: they keep introducing new opponents, and because of this the main story doesn't move forward.

And blackhair: Baki does get better later, I suggest giving it another chance. Yes, Grappler Baki is less realistic than Hajime no Ippo (which isn't completely realistic either) but that is beside the point. Baki isn't really a sports manga, (I don't consider Ippo a typical sports manga either) and more realistic doesn't mean better per se.

Both series focus on a group of characters more than on one main character, they're actually quite similar in that regard.

Both series are great in their own right, but they have different strengths. I do feel Grappler Baki deserves more way more recognition than it's getting...

[Metsudragon]

Um no? Both have their great points, and Baki definitely deserves more recognition, but no need to trash on Ippo.

[BlackHair]

Right, there is no reason to talk Baki down, it wasn't actually my intention, just this thread pissed me off lol. Tbh there was actually also a Takamura vs Bear fight, so u can't rly call it "normal" for sports either.

Anyway, even if its dragged, its just normal for a long running series.. so there is no real need to make a big deal out of it. As long the comedy fits, I have no problem at all.

[Ramen4ever]

Ippo > Baki

Baki features too much bare man ass. At least the nude scenes in Ippo are funny.

[garouboy]

Too much bare man ass? You don't see it THAT often in Baki. The human body is beautiful anyway, take a look at some Greek or Roman sculptures for example.

[Metsudragon]

^not THAT often? Try every chapter Pickle's appeared in. :P

[garouboy]

That's true, I guess I don't pay all that much attention to it. I find it funny how so many people let Itegaki's representation of the human body get to them.

[Metsudragon]

It really doesn't bother me at all really, just a matter of different tastes I guess.

[sharingan_kakashi]

hey guys what chapter did Ippo fight Martinez? thanks

[The Boff]

martinez arrives in chp 327 and that's where the buildup to the spar is.

so i would start there

[futureking]

They just appeared shortly after Kimura & Aoki lost. In chapter 819, to be specific.

[Giilshark]

good questions xD

[Name-Undecided]

I just know Itagaki is going to fight Ippo sooner rather than later. It's not the hints that people are dropping that make me think so. It's the whole Kumi thing.

And let me say now, if Itagaki wins, I'll NEVER EVER read another chapter again!

...maybe. :-p

[Name-Undecided]

The match that got the most rise out of me was Takamura vs Hawk. I got an ulcer after that and I blame it all on that match.

Other favourite matches, in order: Ippo vs. Mashiba, Ippo vs. Karasawa, Ippo vs. Ponchai. Ippo vs. anyone except Date/Ricardo.

Least favourite match: Anything with Miyatagaki in it.

[Name-Undecided]

I wouldn't mind if they spent the entire budget animating the Takamura-Hawk fight. :-D

[futureking]

From re-reading HNI in anticipation of the anime, I stumbled across chapter 148. Its the chapter when everyone sings "Champion" in the karaoke lounge after the Suzuki-Volg match.

I googled it and apparently, Champion is actually a real song. The chapter is actually twice as funny now that I know how the song goes. I can even imagine Takamura butchering the song and the guys repeating the same song & verse over and over again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_7JO12fYg

This is a recent performance by the same artist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV18BXHKy0U&feature=related

[ris-b]

heyheyhey have IO stopped doing HnI or are they just taiking some time off ?

[jackamabob]

posted Dec 3, 2008, 11:33pm, Puar


Quick Update...

On vacation and out of town through Next Thursday. Expect 831-832 when I get back.

833-835 should touch down with Sorwah in the States while I'm away.

Talking with a Fansub Group to work out the kinks of subbing Ippo: New Challengers (aka Ippo Series 2).

And that's about all there is to know at the moment. w00t!

Found that at Dynamite Glove forums, looks like Ignition-One is just on vacation so we all just have to be patient. :)
[hr]
posted (http://westbound.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=HnI&action=display&thread=225&page=171#112051) Dec 16, 2008, 2:21am by Puar (Dynamite Glove Forums (http://westbound.proboards34.com))


Just to repeat it once more, we will be needing a new raw provider as our current source is leaving Japan in December!! if you or someone you know can mail or scan chapters, e-mail us at ippo.online@gmail.com

And now, the floodgate for new chapters has been re-opened.

Torrent: Chapters 831 (Low Quality) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=43292)
Read Online: Ignition-One Ippo Online Viewer (http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/)

MediaFire: Download Link (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=05a8243fe84240f691b20cc0d07ba4d2397f6a8f27355fee)
MegaUpload: Download Link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QHFHZUXE)
SendSpace: Download Link (http://www.sendspace.com/file/blxfjh)

This is from the Dynamite Glove Forums again, (I-O releases thread (http://westbound.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=HnI&action=display&thread=225)) If you are interested in Hajime no Ippo I strongly urge you to sign up.

[diesirea~]

We wil see Itagaki in the Anime for the very first time. Also Date's fight against Ricardo.

[Haros]

The raw is out.
Just saw the opening of the new TV serie and it was pucking awesome. Cant wait till it is subbed. Anyone knows if there is a group that will take the project?? and which one is it??

anyways here is some torrents
1 episode raw-->http://www.mininova.org/tor/2154079
new opening-->http://www.mininova.org/tor/2154171
new ending-->http://www.mininova.org/tor/2154134

[ibra87]

For now it seems that groups who will sub it are (taken from fwiki):

sMi-INP
Frostii
Saizen/Ignition-One

Especially looking forward to Saizen, but they're known to be slow, meh.


EDIT: Subs out:

[Animebreaker]​_Hajime​_no​_Ippo~New​_Challenger~01[400p].avi (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=45705) ~174 MB
[Animebreaker]​_Hajime​_no​_Ippo~New​_Challenger~02[720p][ED49B1BA].​mp4 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=45703) ~200 MB

[B]Episode 2:

[Animebreaker]​_Hajime​_no​_Ippo~New​_Challenger~02[400p][4236D8CA].​avi (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=46759) ~175 MB
[Animebreaker]​_Hajime​_no​_Ippo~New​_Challenger~02[720p][ED49B1BA].​mp4 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=46760) ~219 MB

[lexx]

High points:

-still scenes have a decent amount of detail
-most of the voice actors reprised their old roles
-that's all

Issues:

-the character drawing style has changed
-the overall animation quality is hella down
-consistency of animation is also way down.
-animation fluidity and level of detail is also down
-not only have they dropped all the old music (what the fuck man!)
-but they've replaced it with instrumental shit that doesn't suit the content, and gives off an entirely different "feel" compared to the original series

Examples of some of this:
First episode:
-in the shower scene, aoki has some messed up proportions yo
-even in the flashback of Ippo's dempsey roll in the Sanada fight, the animation is choppy - compared to something that was first animated several years ago.
-in the Kamogawa gym scene where Yagi-chan is talking to himself and then later on to Shinoda and Kamogawa, it's obvious how awkward and unpolished the animation is
-Miyata barely looks like himself

All in all:

I'm amazed that this was made by the same animation studio that did the original Hajime No Ippo. To be honest the difference is as significant as going from Naruto (original series in its prime) to some of the early Shippuuden filler.

I'll give a comparative review:

Hajime No Ippo: begins at 6/10, raises to 8/10 as momentum picks up and the boxing levels increase

Hajime No Ippo New Challenger: 4/10. The drop is half due to the animation and half the music. The only way they could've fucked up worse is by using different voice actors.

...Jesus, the only sound effect they kept from the original is the elephant noise whenever Ippo's dick is mentioned.

[Sachsenhesse]

just one thing

wtf? ^^

the new challenger has more speed and dynamic and to say its only 4/10 after 4,5 episodes its too much

i´m looking forward to see date vs. ricardo and takamura vs. hawk in animeform ^^

[Thallc]

Takamura vs. Hawk will be SO cool. I hope we'll get to Takamura vs. Eagle too. Eagle was a cool fighter :)

On the music, I hated that god-damn random bass line in the Anime. That sounded like garbage -,-"

[fizban]

Was it just me, or did the latest Ippo chapter cut off in mid-sentence?

[Artuir]

Me too.

I wonder how many people on this forum read it, though?

Well, you can add one more to the list. I started reading it out of curiosity and spent the next four nights doing nothing but reading it. It's absolutely fantastic and the storytelling is phenomenal.

I love how Takamura also busts in randomly with the penis jokes, and the funny faces he makes. It genuinely cracks me up into tears every time. I've missed reading a manga that can do that.

[Sachsenhesse]

it was just you ^^

but the last chapter was boring :/

[sabret00the]

The whole fight is quite boring. Miyata is one hell of a boring character anyway. I actually want him to lose this fight and then have Itagaki beat RBJ.

[Thallc]

Well I'd actually like Miyata to win somehow. I kinda like him screwing up all the fighters that manager throws at him ;)

[Alexandrius]

Miyata is a cool character and popular. I doubt he'll lose this match either way though. Two losses is one too many for his pride. He'd probably give up boxing if he lost this and we all know Ippo and Miyata are going to fight in the end.

[Thallc]

Randy seems to be pinned down somehow... maybe the damage is starting to show and Miyata can finally land his last deadly blade :)

[sharingan_kakashi]

I like Miata. He is always cool, wait and see he will win this fight. His main weakness, which has been exposed in this fight is that he is a one dimensional fighter. a head hunting counter expert. His level is still below Date and Martinez.

[Thallc]

I like Miata. He is always cool, wait and see he will win this fight. His main weakness, which has been exposed in this fight is that he is a one dimensional fighter. a head hunting counter expert. His level is still below Date and Martinez.

Martinez is just a beast :P I don't see Miyata ever beating him. Ippo is far from him. Only Takamura would stand a chance I think ^^"

[Sachsenhesse]

martinez vs. takamura would be a hell of a fight =D

[Ruissu]

gotta love hajime no ippo

it's about time for ippo to pick up some fighting...

[Thallc]

Takamura is after this for his third belt I believe.

[Rivalz]

Actually, I think Takamura's fight is just another title defense.

[Thallc]

so he beats him up in the second or first round.. beh :P I like Takamura's fights ^^"

[fizban]

Actually, I think Takamura's fight is just another title defense.

Against Donald Duck, but with a non-copyright infringing name

[sabret00the]

Woohoo, the fights finally over and we can move on to Takamura. It was a good fight, not the most exciting but good. I have a feeling that Miyata will be out for a while

[asuka23]

HAHAHAHAHA OH WOW

because Miyata added a corkscrew to his counter, I'm going to overlook the fact that Miyata has broken ribs and almost has no gas left in the tank. there wasn't even that much drama in this chapter. it was entirely Morikawa asking his readers to suspend their disbelief. at least this lengthy fight is finally over and we can move on to the next one.

[chocohexe]

I dont think that miyata will be fighting Ippo. Because in the manga he already said godbuy to him. After this fight he maybe go into an another classwight, which would be the best, given his circumstances. And when this fights end, he has proven that his fathers boxing wasnt wrong. And that was his coal in the end. And ippos coach was incredible pissed, i dont think he will ever allow a match betwenn them.

[toniCHRYSA]

WTF?! that is just stupid hahaha! Poor Randy got KTFO!? And I thought that he was gonna run Miyata over like a truck running over a bike wtf?! Boring as hell hahaha! The only offense he did was When he attacked Miyata's ribs? That's it? Hahahahahahaahhahaha! This is BS man! hahaha! Thank god that it's over now though! Let's go Takamura!

[Sachsenhesse]

true :/

this fight was a joke... and somehow i got the idea that miyata will end in a heartbreakshotcorksrewcounter...

[chocohexe]

what a boring chap -.-

[The Boff]

i vote: Worst Fight EVER!

seriously, this fight sucked. ive never been a Miyata fan but come on... dang that was boring.

[Sorata]

i vote: Worst Fight EVER!

seriously, this fight sucked. ive never been a Miyata fan but come on... dang that was boring.

I agree with you, this was even worst than Ippo vs the Magician; normally i like the lone wolf kind of characters like Miyata but for some odd reason i find Miyata a boring character and his figts are even worse.

[sharingan_kakashi]

it was inevitable that Miyata would win that fight. i mean who did not see that coming. He has to win that fight to advance the story line. Now i feel like Ippo is very close to finishing.

i have a question. i forgot who Takamura is fighting. Is he strong? Miyata's very long fight made me forget.

[Sorata]

i have a question. i forgot who Takamura is fighting. Is he strong? Miyata's very long fight made me forget.

He´s fighting Ronal Duck i think, he isn´t anyone important so Takamura will probably kill him in the first round in some funny way like he always do.

[toniCHRYSA]

Hahahaha! so funny when Everyone was leaving the god damn arena after the match hahahahahahaha! Takamura was like WTF dont leave yet assholes hahahaha! best part of the chapter hahaha

[bittman]

Hmm, I'm actually on the fence with the fight. It had some good moments, but a lot of bland ones. Randy was not nearly as epic as the Magician made him out to be, I think Ippo could have beaten Randy with just as much difficulty as the Magician (that is, not a ton). So what I hated most about the fight was Randy, because he looked about half as good as the manga tried to make him out to appear whilst Miyata looked five leagues above from the start.

I think I'm just over Thai boxers in general now, they've all been a little disappointing. I hope the OBPF brings in something else, at least the Australian boxer was a change.

But yeah, I guess I'll continue reading this to look forward to Ippo actually making a move on the world rankings. Minus Ozuma, he hasn't fought an American yet, and considering they typically populate the world rankings it would be good to see Ippo take on something and actually have to travel overseas. It's been hinted a little that Takamura might have to travel to get the rest of his titles since there's just not enough Japanese in the higher weight classes.

Anyway, I think next is the Itagaki tournament and I honestly hope he gets flattened -> makes Ippo rage -> awesome title defence. Otherwise we get left with that "Oh no, Itagaki is #1 challenger, but he's in Ippo's gym. What now!?" which I've never actually liked.

[Sachsenhesse]

boah wtf

takamura punch this bastard back to his mother!

[sabret00the]

Watched all of the New Challenger that's out and it was surprisingly up to par.

[bittman]

New chapter with cocky Itagaki made me cringe more.

Can't believe they brought Saeki back, he was so dull.

....and who the heck is this other guy? Am I meant to know him? I'm sure I've probably just missed him in the 850 chapters.

[Sorata]

New chapter with cocky Itagaki made me cringe more.

Can't believe they brought Saeki back, he was so dull.

....and who the heck is this other guy? Am I meant to know him? I'm sure I've probably just missed him in the 850 chapters.


The other guy is Karasuma or Karasawa(don´t remember very weel his name) from Sanada´s gym, Ippo beat him in 2 rounds in his 6th title defense.

And i agree with you about Saeki, one of the most boring characters, even tough Itagaki and him are really fast their fight is gonna be a borefest.

[sabret00the]

New chapter with cocky Itagaki made me cringe more.

Can't believe they brought Saeki back, he was so dull.

....and who the heck is this other guy? Am I meant to know him? I'm sure I've probably just missed him in the 850 chapters.
What's wrong with Itagaki being cocky? Though to be fair he struggled with power a lot.

[bittman]

Heh, I've just never liked him minus the great family dinners. But I just don't like cocky characters, which is why I'm an Ippo fan (speaking of which, when is that guy gonna fight again?). Bleach pisses me off for a similar reason.

And yeah, sorry I forgot about the guy who lost in two rounds 300 chapters ago. The Imai v Itagaki match after it was much better, and it only felt like a build up to it anyway.

I'm going to bet on Fukui to be the surprise packet here, though it might be too soon to see major improvement since his Ippo spar.

Probably be a Saeki v Itagaki final since it's been 600 chapters+ since we've seen Saeki fight.

[Sorata]

Heh, I've just never liked him minus the great family dinners. But I just don't like cocky characters, which is why I'm an Ippo fan (speaking of which, when is that guy gonna fight again?). Bleach pisses me off for a similar reason.

And yeah, sorry I forgot about the guy who lost in two rounds 300 chapters ago. The Imai v Itagaki match after it was much better, and it only felt like a build up to it anyway.

I'm going to bet on Fukui to be the surprise packet here, though it might be too soon to see major improvement since his Ippo spar.

Probably be a Saeki v Itagaki final since it's been 600 chapters+ since we've seen Saeki fight.

I don´t dislike cocky characters that much, i love Sendo and Takamura, but Itagaki is the annoying kind of guy who have a boring personality and mangaka gives him all the talent in the world like Ikki(Air Gear) and Nagi(Tenjou Tenge), i´m a big fan of Air Gear and Tenjou Tenge but only for their secondary characters, Ikki and Nagi are probably some of the characters i hate in manga and Itagaki is following that path.

[Zarion]

Aw man! They downsized Ippo the Ippo section? That sucks.

[Sachsenhesse]

jeah itagaki is really worthless and i hope he never gets near to ippos kumi >.<

but nooow ... now comes mashibas comeback :D bwahaha let the blood rain down on his hands

[sabret00the]

I really hope Itagaki wins you guys back over, I love his fighting style, he's got so much potential.

[HisshouBuraiKen]

I hope Mashiba hurries up and kills whoever this guy is so we can get on with the A-class tournament. I'm praying Aoki and Kimura get one more shot at their respective titles.

I also loled in the latest chapter when Kimura mocks Aoki because Mashiba moved up to lightweight, only for Aoki to be like, "I'm not worried, I'll never make it all the to the OPBF anyway."

[sabret00the]

Ah that's what the latest exchange was. This should be an interesting fight, but i can't say i'm too pumped for it, right now, all i really care about is the Class A tournament.

[bittman]

Hmm, I'm confused now that Mashiba moved up. See I thought there was a plan to have Vorg v Mashiba on the world stage, yet now both of them are in different weight classes.

Minus Kimura and Aoki, what other big names do we have in these classes? I'm worried that they'll both become increasingly seperate to Ippo's story and this will need to be renamed Hajime no IppoMashibaMiyata or something.

Still, looking forward to Mashiba's fight. Where is this chapter anyway? We haven't had a new one for a couple of weeks now.

[sabret00the]

Sorry that I have nothing to add in regards to your post bittman but i'm not a fan of Vorg, Mashiba or Miyata. Oh actually, I'll say that Miyata has been phased out quite a bit and with Itagaki as the new speed genius the only real question is, what do we need Miyata for? He'll be around, but I doubt he'll get as much emphasis. I have a feeling that Itagaki will win the OPBF, that could be an interesting development. We all know that he'll go to the world stage.

[Sachsenhesse]

ah damn the raw for 852 is since a few weeks here and still no scanlation? whats up?

mashiba ftw D:

[bittman]

Ok, read that RAW (or at least looked at the pretty pictures =p)

Was that a Miyata-style counter Itagaki did?

I like how Saeki is fairly relaxed about it all, the other guy seems very serious now days though...wonder where Fukui is? Hopefully training his ass off.

[Sachsenhesse]

@bittman

we already have 853 raw :D

damn mashiba is such a genius xD

[BlackHair]

Just watched the recent episode. I must say Im disappointed in how the anime fails to catch the seriousness around the Takamura vs Hawk fight. Also they are missing some great and funny moments from the manga. A huge disappointment for me, since I was hoping for a great animation.

Regarding the speed characters in Ippo, I hope every single one of them dies. Beside Itagaki, since I like his whole attitude at the gym. Quite funny with him and Aokimura. I just don't like how they fight, it is imo not shounen worth.


Im still at 851, have to catch up, even if there is no scanlation out yet.

[Sorata]

Just watched the recent episode. I must say Im disappointed in how the anime fails to catch the seriousness around the Takamura vs Hawk fight. Also they are missing some great and funny moments from the manga. A huge disappointment for me, since I was hoping for a great animation.


I totally agree with you, Takamura vs Hawk is the most epic momment from the Hajime no Ippo manga and the anime fails to catch that.
And the same thing happens with the comedy momments, the Ippo on the Beachchapters were super funny while in the anime they cut tons of things and the ones left don´t have the same impact.

[bittman]

I like Mashiba.

Now that's out of the way. I hate how everyone is always like "Oh my god, there's the Hitman stance" and the entire crowd pauses to look at it. HE DOES IT EVERY FREAKING FIGHT! How can moving to that stance still shock you!? It's like saying that Takamura's bear scar still makes you pause and think!

Ok, needed that out of my system.

Since the OBPF champion was never hyped up, I expect Mashiba to win in 2-3 chapters.

[BlackHair]

I know what u mean. Had similar thoughts as when Kubo used like a double page for bankai of captains, which we already saw. Anyway I hope Masiba's fight turns into a bloody one. Always liked his boxing and I agree on the 2-3 chapter prediction. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends in the next chapter.

btw in which chapter were the speedstars reintroduced? Those two with Itegaki.
Nevermind Chapter 794

[Sachsenhesse]

mashiba will kill him without hesitation, the opponent didnt even know about his flicker so he dont know his chopping right also

easy win for mashiba and easy win for kumi xD she totally owned itagakis sister

Edit after seeing the raw:

WHAT THE! Such a cheating against Mashiba isnt good. xD

I bet this champ is going to die!

[bittman]

Oh man, Mashiba's totally gonna roundhouse kick him or something...

[Sachsenhesse]

haha i want to see the next confrontation of mashiba, ippo and kumi, damn blood will flow :D

btw what a final punch that would finished everybody

[sabret00the]

Good conclusion to the fight, am happy with the way it ended.

[Thallc]

This guy will probably die. I mean fouling on the king of fouls and dirty play. He's gonna get murdered!

[BlackHair]

So Mashiba ain't using dirty tricks anymore. Not bad actually and his reaction to Kumi+Ippo was hilarious lol.

[sabret00the]

So Mashiba ain't using dirty tricks anymore. Not bad actually and his reaction to Kumi+Ippo was hilarious lol.
I don't think that's it. It's more that he had people in the audience that he didn't wanna let down.

[Sachsenhesse]

jeah thats the reason too for the flying boxglove in the direction of these two ^^

[Thallc]

He doesn't want to be disqualified and disappoint Kumi. He won't foul. He'll get freaking furious though and might kill him. But by punching him REALLY REALLY much. Not by fouling :P

[Sachsenhesse]

hm when do we finally see martinez again? i want to see him fight one of our guys like sendou or ippo, vorg is still out there too

...

featherweight is so cruel, only monsters... xD

[BlackHair]

Hajime No Ippo: New Challenger 22 (http://animeready.com/hajime-no-ippo-new-challenger-22/)

I was amazed by the animation of this episode. Though they are not bringing detailed aspects from the manga, they still do great job on fighting parts.

I want to see Takamuras 3rd world title match or Ippos serious movement into the world stage. And I agree Ricardo, Vrog would be nice too. But we have to wait until the A tournament is over xD

[Sachsenhesse]

jwah that episode was great, hawks fightingstyle was really good shown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiHL7XSGMs&feature=related

but i laughed hard at this one :D

[Thallc]

Hawk is a serious beast, in the anime also. But I still thing Eagle was the worst opponent. He was a true Champion.

[Sachsenhesse]

Eagle was way to nice, if he would have been like Hawk then Takamura would have lost because of his cut. I dont like him. :/

Volg was Junior Lightweight, right? So is there any Chance that Kimura will fight him? =D

[Thallc]

I hate the way Kimura turned out. He was so amazing during the Kimura - Mahiba fight. And after that he returned to being a big loser again. There are various references of him being a great fighter among the lightweights. His speed and technique are great. Miyata said he had no flaws and his boxing sense was greater then his. They should develop his character more. Kimura deserves at least the Japanese title!

[bellcrossage]

Rikiya Koyama stated on his blog that after Episode 26 of New Challenger, Madhouse will begin production on the sequel series of New Challenger.

Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-12/sequel-to-hajime-no-ippo/new-challenger-being-planned

Source 2 (In Japanese): http://blog.livedoor.jp/rikiya_no_kimochi/archives/865083.html

I am happy that there will be more episodes of Hajime no Ippo, but I am also saddened that they're not going to have the series as "ongoing" and produce more episodes as they go on from one episode to another. Then again, it may be a good idea to break up the series in smaller chunks.

[tenebrae]

I want to know why ippo is still fighting champs from other nations. The OPBF title will be open soon and it will be ippos best shot at it so i guess i just don't understand why stalling his taking the OPBF title fight any longer since we know miyata is moving up a weight class which means the title will be vacant.
[hr]

I hate the way Kimura turned out. He was so amazing during the Kimura - Mahiba fight. And after that he returned to being a big loser again. There are various references of him being a great fighter among the lightweights. His speed and technique are great. Miyata said he had no flaws and his boxing sense was greater then his. They should develop his character more. Kimura deserves at least the Japanese title!

Also i agree with this he did magnificent during the mashiba fight and then just this most recent chapter we see kimura and aoki being completely even in a spar where it didn't even look like aoki was using tricks which is all he relies on in actual matches.

[Sachsenhesse]

jeah but aoki is a weightclass above kimura ^^

i wanna see aoki as a champf, it would be just hilarous in the kamogawa gym with aoki on 3. place, also the entire "oh you didnt know how it is to be a champ, or?" jokes will only go to kimura and itagaki ^^

but with miyata a weightclass higher, could we see an miyata vs. kimura fight?

[bellcrossage]

jeah but aoki is a weightclass above kimura ^^

i wanna see aoki as a champf, it would be just hilarous in the kamogawa gym with aoki on 3. place, also the entire "oh you didnt know how it is to be a champ, or?" jokes will only go to kimura and itagaki ^^

but with miyata a weightclass higher, could we see an miyata vs. kimura fight?
Nah, that won't happen, Aokimura will always stay Aokimura. Lowest of the low. Takamura will see to that. He'll do it just to spite Aokimura (I am using Takamura's nickname for the two of them).

[Stevenh1990]

Man ! Have you guys been watching the Takamura vs Hawk fight in the anime ? That shit is Awesome !!

[bellcrossage]

Man ! Have you guys been watching the Takamura vs Hawk fight in the anime ? That shit is Awesome !!
The current season will end after the Battle of Hawk fight. I don't know when the next season will start, but it is coming down the line.

The series is only going to get better, because we get to see Itagaki's Rookie King run, his defeating of Imai (finally), his trashing of Hoshi (with his incredible speed), there's also Ippo's 6 or 7 titles defenses before going to better and bigger things within the boxing world. There's Mashiba's fight with Sawamura (and subsequent suspencion). There's also Miyata and the fated meeting of the Boy.

[Sachsenhesse]

haha

kamogawa vs. miguel number 3

against a tarzan what a joke ^^ he must have an lemurepunch or something

[Sherlock Holmes]

I began reading Hajime no ippo recently...So let me ask you guys who are up to date one thing.

So far(I'm in chapter 292) everybody and their mother seems to be able to seal the Dempsey Roll. Seriously. Every single freaking person. Does that get better as the manga goes on, or do people just keep sealing it?

[Sachsenhesse]

@sherlock

get better, ippo will evolve the dempsey roll to new level where she is unpredictable

have faith ;)

[sabret00the]

I began reading Hajime no ippo recently...So let me ask you guys who are up to date one thing.

So far(I'm in chapter 292) everybody and their mother seems to be able to seal the Dempsey Roll. Seriously. Every single freaking person. Does that get better as the manga goes on, or do people just keep sealing it?
It gets better. Basically Ippo's been too dependent on it and so will be forced to put it aside for a while.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Oh, great. It gets better then.

Okay, first of all, I was never a Takamura fan or anything but...His fight against Hawk was just EPIC. It was manlier than all episodes of Gurren Laggan combined.

Now I'm on the post WWII flashback.
....One thing I hate about this manga is how every single american is portrayed as a racist, even though Japan as a whole is more racist than the US by far.

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000016/00000407/10.jpg
Seriously, Morikawa? You really think a man who just fought a war against NAZI GERMANY would even use the words "inferior" and "race" in the same sentence?

[Sachsenhesse]

Ah no. no. Not every american is so. Hawk is jst a freaking idiot and that ww2 should be clear. Later on there is especiall one american who real accepts japan etc.

Right now it seems you underestimating the entire manga. ^^

Also not every german was a nazi and not every american was an antinazi.

*sigh*

[Sherlock Holmes]

I'm not underestimating the manga.
409 chapters in and I'm yet to see a non racist american. Even if one comes in later, it's not the exception that counts. It's the rule.

I'm not saying that every german was a nazi. I'm saying that during that period of time, the enemy was Nazi germany. The germany ruled by the nazis.

And really, as for the american not being anti nazi...
...Really, is there anyone in the world who is pro nazi today?
...Yes I know there are some, but frankly, not many. Now imagine your country at war against a nazi goverment. How many people would be pro nazis?
Even less.

Hating anything related to Nazi germany was a patriotic thing to do. Someone who fought in WWII is MUCH more likely to be anti nazi.

Not to say I don't like the manga. I really like it. But...It's very, very racist. Most depictions of Americans in manga tend to be racist though. Like in Eyeshield21, where every single american was an asshole, with the exception of Panther.

Again, I understand that having suffered in war and all he must have hated the Japanese(the WWII boxer) but still, he talks in a way that would make Hitler proud. The manga as a whole seems rather racist.

But again, it has got nothing on Ring ni Kakero. Damn, now THAT'S a racist manga. They have got nazis and KKK boxers just punching the crap outta everyone. Hell, they have got a guy named JESUS CHRIST punching the hell out everyone.

[Sachsenhesse]

You did realize that i come from germany, do you? ^^

Ah and comeon i dont wanna know how many soldiers of the allied forces did start fightes with their companions because they had an other skincolor. In eyeshield did they main racist had a reason for that.

But back to ippo. America did defeat Japan, of course there is some hate. I could really talk long about those entire terms, but how many americans did we have until chapter 409? I believe Jason was american too and he was an really nice guy. Otherwise i only remember hawk and those ww2 people.

[Sherlock Holmes]

You did realize that i come from germany, do you? ^^

Ah and comeon i dont wanna know how many soldiers of the allied forces did start fightes with their companions because they had an other skincolor. In eyeshield did they main racist had a reason for that.

But back to ippo. America did defeat Japan, of course there is some hate. I could really talk long about those entire terms, but how many americans did we have until chapter 409? I believe Jason was american too and he was an really nice guy. Otherwise i only remember hawk and those ww2 people.

I'll confess my eyes looked at the icon under your username. But I fail to see how that makes my knowledge of history any less accurate.

It's not just making Apollo racist in Eyeshield21. In the last arc, they also made Don a bit of a racist, and an ass. They also made Clifford an ass. And they also made Bud and Tatanka asses. They made every single American who was not panther an ass. That's a rather racist depiction of Americans, don't you agree?

His name was Jason Ozuma. For some reason I don't think he was fully American.

But anyway, we are getting off topic. I think this manga is a little racist. I think most manga are very racist when talking about the US. Nothing I can do about it. It's part of their culture, and the US kind of erased two of their cities from existence, so it's not entirely unjustified. But it bothers me that in Japan people can get away with doing that.

In the United States or in Canada, no comic would ever be so blatantly racist. And if it was, there would be thousands of protests about it. Because people have nothing better to do. But it's just so common in mangas for them to be racist towards americans that it kind of bothers me a little.

Back to the manga, I think I'll catch up with the current chapters in a week.

[sabret00the]

I'll confess my eyes looked at the icon under your username. But I fail to see how that makes my knowledge of history any less accurate.

It's not just making Apollo racist in Eyeshield21. In the last arc, they also made Don a bit of a racist, and an ass. They also made Clifford an ass. And they also made Bud and Tatanka asses. They made every single American who was not panther an ass. That's a rather racist depiction of Americans, don't you agree?

His name was Jason Ozuma. For some reason I don't think he was fully American.

But anyway, we are getting off topic. I think this manga is a little racist. I think most manga are very racist when talking about the US. Nothing I can do about it. It's part of their culture, and the US kind of erased two of their cities from existence, so it's not entirely unjustified. But it bothers me that in Japan people can get away with doing that.

In the United States or in Canada, no comic would ever be so blatantly racist. And if it was, there would be thousands of protests about it. Because people have nothing better to do. But it's just so common in mangas for them to be racist towards americans that it kind of bothers me a little.

Back to the manga, I think I'll catch up with the current chapters in a week.
So you hate the way that it's fundamentally OK in Japanese media and in fact culturally to rag on westerners and depict them as ignorant racists. However you don't hate the way that 98% of orientals are depicted in Western media as heavy accented, pretty to look at/martial art masters? Seriously, jump off the high horse.

[Sherlock Holmes]

So you hate the way that it's fundamentally OK in Japanese media and in fact culturally to rag on westerners and depict them as ignorant racists. However you don't hate the way that 98% of orientals are depicted in Western media as heavy accented, pretty to look at/martial art masters? Seriously, jump off the high horse.

Um, for one thing I don't think being represented as Mr.Miyagi is as bad as being represented as an asshole.

Also, I never mentioned I didn't hate that. It's just that I think the way manga depicts the west is, in my opinion, much worse than the way western media represents the east.

I mean, I personally would rather be represented as a Mr.Miyagi badass than as a racist loser.

[shouryuujo]

I began reading Hajime no ippo recently...So let me ask you guys who are up to date one thing.

So far(I'm in chapter 292) everybody and their mother seems to be able to seal the Dempsey Roll. Seriously. Every single freaking person. Does that get better as the manga goes on, or do people just keep sealing it?

he stopped using it because of that and the strain on his body. I suspect he may use it again later on but it is a "forbidden move" right now.

[Sherlock Holmes]

volume 64 here. Ippo's seventh defence was....um....
...boring as hell. But Itagaki's fight was beyond awesome.

[tenebrae]

I just wish that ippo would get on with moving past the japanese title already. But oh well this next guy took the title in 3 fights he's gotta be good meaning two things a good fight for us to see and hopefully improvement for ippo.

[BlitzRonin]

This is probably going to be his last fight with the Japanese belt around his waist... so you will get your wish I think.

On the tank cover that came out a year or so back the three champs were already on it... this Tarzan guy is the last national champ he has to fight I think before he moves onto the next level. Then he will vacate the belt and the winner of the Class A Tourney will be the champ... so that will probably be Itagaki. It will all work out.

Just a matter of what title Ippo is going to go after... the OPBF... WBA Asian Championship... the WBA or WBC Feather titles themselves? Who knows.

[Sachsenhesse]

he goes straight to martinez like sendo, so a mexican will ne foddered

but after reading the new raw... argh damn an itagakistyleboxer, i knowed that ippos talk with itagaki where he says what the difference between these two is, is foreshadowing

[sabret00the]

Has he really thought all of the champions in the OPBF? If so, and Goku really is the last one, then he should already have a top ten world ranking and this is about cementing a title shot. That said, it really feels too soon to me for him to be going after a title shot. Has Miyata moved up a weight yet? Is so, i foresee Ippo grabbing that belt and using the momentum to go after the title shot.

[Sachsenhesse]

actually ippo is already ranked as 7 in the wbc so he could made a match with martinez already, but before that i think he will fight some overseafighter

the only one from our friends i see challenging ricardo in a short time is sendo ^^

[bellcrossage]

actually ippo is already ranked as 7 in the wbc so he could made a match with martinez already, but before that i think he will fight some overseafighter

the only one from our friends i see challenging ricardo in a short time is sendo ^^

Ippo won't fight Martinez. Sendo will. Sendo has been planning on going against Martinez, since he's been fighting Mexicans lately. Ippo already knows what to expect from Martinez anyway. Besides, he'll still be in-region even after Sendo fights Martinez.

[Drmke]

I think this manga is a little racist.

I'm assuming you think that because of the way they had Bryan Hawk act like such an ass, but if you remember right after that they had David Eagle who was a splendid boxer who didn't cheat at all. They showed both sides of America showing that it has good and bad people like any other country.

And about the soldiers. I'm sure there were soldiers that acted like after the war.

[Sachsenhesse]

after seeing the newest raw i believe that ippo will destroy his enemys boxing career O.o that guy was probably never really hit and then fighting against ippo? this will be an oneshotkill

[a_nevels666]

after seeing the newest raw i believe that ippo will destroy his enemys boxing career O.o that guy was probably never really hit and then fighting against ippo? this will be an oneshotkill

Nah, it's Ippo.
He first has to angst like 6 rounds about how the monkey-boy is too fast/agile to hit.
Then in the end he'll have some sort of revelation based on the movement of monkeys or something, gets one or two hits in and wins.

[shouryuujo]

Nah, it's Ippo.
He first has to angst like 6 rounds about how the monkey-boy is too fast/agile to hit.
Then in the end he'll have some sort of revelation based on the movement of monkeys or something, gets one or two hits in and wins.

LIS. So true so true. It will be epic since we haven't seen Ippo fight for a LONG time and a short and sweet fight is not gonna cut it especially the "build up" of this new prodigy. I think it will also put Manabu "in place" since he is getting too arrogant for his own good and seeing Ippo pwn someone like him will do Manabu good.

[Sherlock Holmes]

It might actually help Itagkai *finally caught up*

Since Itagaki is going to be up against faster opponents, he might learn from ippo what he needs to do.

[Sachsenhesse]

topic itagaki, he will fight karasawa in the first fight right?

do we finally see what this guy is capable of? because against ippo he doenst really showed more then speed

[sabret00the]

topic itagaki, he will fight karasawa in the first fight right?

do we finally see what this guy is capable of? because against ippo he doenst really showed more then speed
Itagaki is the real deal, he just lacks power, if he doesn't walk the Class A tourney, there's something wrong.

[Name-Undecided]

Ippo hasn't fought the Korean champ yet, has he? Isn't Korea part of the OBPF?

[Sachsenhesse]

jeah but how long should this manga go? xD

i hope this is the last champ he needs to defeat and then goes on the world, otherwise i see me countinue reading this manga in 10 years

[Drmke]

jeah but how long should this manga go? xD

i hope this is the last champ he needs to defeat and then goes on the world, otherwise i see me countinue reading this manga in 10 years

Hopefully it goes on forever......................lol

[Hiruma Youichi]

Ippo hasn't fought the Korean champ yet, has he? Isn't Korea part of the OBPF?

He hasn't fought the australian champ yet either

[sabret00the]

He hasn't fought the australian champ yet either
Who was it that thought the Australian?

[Hiruma Youichi]

Who was it that thought the Australian?

Miyata Fought an Australian but he was the Australian was OPBF champion at the time.

[Sherlock Holmes]

We can gauge how long this manga is going to be by Takamura's progression of his goal. He only won like 2 out of 6 weight classes right? So the manga is not even half way done.

[a_nevels666]

We can gauge how long this manga is going to be by Takamura's progression of his goal. He only won like 2 out of 6 weight classes right? So the manga is not even half way done.

That's not a very good guage at all IMO, since Takamura's goal only really came into play later in the manga.

I guess they could milk this manga forever, but IMO it really should be past the half way point by now.