Bleach FAQs and Simple Q&A's

[Razh]

Lol, if there was something affecting Komamura's ears so much, than Ikkaku and Iba probably couldn't hear each other talking at all. And they did seem to converse fluidly.

[Revilenigma]

has anyone scanlated them yet? are the raws even available?

[kkck]

They have them at mangahut.com, although I dont know if thats all of them(you mean the omankes right?)
http://mangahut.com/manga/Bleach
They also have a bunch at onemanga....

[Revilenigma]

no, before both Bleach and Zombie Powder Tite Kubo did a few shorts (3 I think?), one was about a kid and a magical shield I think.

[kkck]

OK, there are a bunch of questions that just stroke me:
1.- Why did urahara need to conceal the orb of distortion within rukia? Why would urahara conceal the orb on a shinigami who was bound to be found by soul society? It doesn't really make sense considering urahara is a fairly powerful and resourceful guy and he has tessai, who is also implied to be incredibly powerful. Yoruichi is also regularly there, and we know she kicks ass. Not to mention ururu and jinta who are also able to fight on a level similar to lieutenant level shinigamis. IMO within the store itself, the orb was fairly well protected, considering the ones who lived there. It is as if he intentionally allowed the orb to get into soul society and aizens grasp.

2.-How did aizen found about the orb itself? According to aizen, soul society had records of the orb, but how exactly did he figured it all out? Somehow something here doesn't seem right, and IMO both things are somehow connected.

[Forever_Melody]

1.- Why did urahara need to conceal the orb of distortion within rukia? Why would urahara conceal the orb on a shinigami who was bound to be found by soul society? It doesn't really make sense considering urahara is a fairly powerful and resourceful guy and he has tessai, who is also implied to be incredibly powerful. Yoruichi is also regularly there, and we know she kicks ass. Not to mention ururu and jinta who are also able to fight on a level similar to lieutenant level shinigamis. IMO within the store itself, the orb was fairly well protected, considering the ones who lived there. It is as if he intentionally allowed the orb to get into soul society and aizens grasp.

Well the purpose of Urahara's Gigai was to completely drain Rukia's powers and eventually turn her into a human. That way, the Hougyouku would be 100% undetectable since there would be no way for anyone to figure out it was within a human soul(until that soul died I suppose). According to Aizen, it almost worked too since he had to actually fish around to figure out a method on how to extract Hougyouku from a soul's core(and it was another of Urahara's inventions that did the trick as well).

Mind you, there could be many possible reasons for Urahara "giving away" the Hougyouku rather than keeping it.

Perhaps he no longer wanted the burden of Hougyouku. I mean, Urahara expressed his wish for the thing to disappear(since he tried to destroy it many times) yet he could not annihilate it so perhaps hiding it for all eternity within a soul was his 2nd best solution.


2.-How did aizen found about the orb itself? According to aizen, soul society had records of the orb, but how exactly did he figured it all out? Somehow something here doesn't seem right, and IMO both things are somehow connected.
That's a mystery to me, but somehow I think he didn't initially know it was in Rukia until she got to SS. Rukia's case was a perfectly "normal" one when she got to SS. She was accused of having given her powers away to a human and blah blah. It's a few days afterwards that things fot weird and she was given a death penalty and all that. I'm assuming somehow, Aizen must've found out that Hougyouku was inside Rukia.

I mean, if Urahara's goal was to turn Rukia into a human, I suppose that if she wasn't completely one yet, Hougyouku might be detectable within her. Or perhaps Aizen used another one of Urahara's inventions to track Hougyouku.

Mind you, I like the idea that perhaps they are related, but Urahara seems to be opposed to Aizen's plans so if he has some underlying motives as to Aizen gaining the Hougyouku, I'm still unsure of what they are :s(perhaps deep down inside, he wanted to see what his fruit created?)

[kkck]

Well the purpose of Urahara's Gigai was to completely drain Rukia's powers and eventually turn her into a human. That way, the Hougyouku would be 100% undetectable since there would be no way for anyone to figure out it was within a human soul(until that soul died I suppose). According to Aizen, it almost worked too since he had to actually fish around to figure out a method on how to extract Hougyouku from a soul's core(and it was another of Urahara's inventions that did the trick as well).

Mind you, there could be many possible reasons for Urahara "giving away" the Hougyouku rather than keeping it.

Perhaps he no longer wanted the burden of Hougyouku. I mean, Urahara expressed his wish for the thing to disappear(since he tried to destroy it many times) yet he could not annihilate it so perhaps hiding it for all eternity within a soul was his 2nd best solution.


That's a mystery to me, but somehow I think he didn't initially know it was in Rukia until she got to SS. Rukia's case was a perfectly "normal" one when she got to SS. She was accused of having given her powers away to a human and blah blah. It's a few days afterwards that things fot weird and she was given a death penalty and all that. I'm assuming somehow, Aizen must've found out that Hougyouku was inside Rukia.

I mean, if Urahara's goal was to turn Rukia into a human, I suppose that if she wasn't completely one yet, Hougyouku might be detectable within her. Or perhaps Aizen used another one of Urahara's inventions to track Hougyouku.

Mind you, I like the idea that perhaps they are related, but Urahara seems to be opposed to Aizen's plans so if he has some underlying motives as to Aizen gaining the Hougyouku, I'm still unsure of what they are :s(perhaps deep down inside, he wanted to see what his fruit created?)

I dont think Urahara is aizens ally, but perhabs there was more to all of this than he said. He clearly has been in contact with the vaizards considering this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/217/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/217/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/218/05/
The vizards have information regarding the nature of the hyogoku, the arrancar, about ichigos growth, and even a basement similar to that of kisuke. Perhabs urahara didnt mean to keep the orb hidden but rather than that set things in motion and the orb was the bait. Putting the orb within aizens reach would mean aizen would make a move in order to get it, and if things went well, aizen could have been stopped for good. Of course he scaped, which sucks for kisuke, but at least the 100 year stale was finally over. We know the only guy in the manga as manipulative and has as many ulterior motives as aizen is urahara (although not in a completely bad way).

[nordicbattlesigns]

1.- Why did urahara need to conceal the orb of distortion within rukia? Why would urahara conceal the orb on a shinigami who was bound to be found by soul society? It doesn't really make sense considering urahara is a fairly powerful and resourceful guy and he has tessai, who is also implied to be incredibly powerful. Yoruichi is also regularly there, and we know she kicks ass. Not to mention ururu and jinta who are also able to fight on a level similar to lieutenant level shinigamis. IMO within the store itself, the orb was fairly well protected, considering the ones who lived there. It is as if he intentionally allowed the orb to get into soul society and aizens grasp.


Urahara and the Vizard fled Soul Society knowing of Aizen’s interest in shinigami-hollow hybrids. Aizen had revealed his true nature, shown his willingness to use anything and anyone in his achievement of that goal. Four captains and four lieutenants for a start. So, they could safely assume he would check the archives on the matter, especially Urahara’s own research. (See below.) Therefore Aizen would learn of the hogyouku and its use, it was only a matter of time.

Urahara couldn’t destroy it back in SS. So it was necessary to hide it.

Using Rukia was probably the marriage of necessity and opportunity. The necessity to have the orb AWAY from his person - not finding it back in SS Aizen would assume Urahara had it with him - but still very secure. (After what went down in SS, Urahara would be wary of Aizen’s strength and cunning and might well have expected him to come after it sooner or later.) The opportunity was sudden, unanticipated. Here was a shinigami on assignment, now needing a gigai for an extended stay on earth. Since Rukia was supposedly laying low, avoiding the eyes of Soul Society, the chance came about that he could place the orb into her with nobody ever knowing. It was only the Menos Grande incident that focused attention back on the area; she was sighted and the rest is history. One suspects Aizen kept an eye on the events on earth after Urahara escaped there; a shinigami falls off the grid, reappears in Urahara’s own back yard, and we know Aizen is intelligent enough to put two and two together, or at least act on a reasonable suspicion.


2.-How did aizen found about the orb itself? According to aizen, soul society had records of the orb, but how exactly did he figured it all out? Somehow something here doesn't seem right, and IMO both things are somehow connected.


Since the whole shinigami-hollow hybrid thing was Aizen’s obsession, he did extensive research with it. Looking back to his grand exposition on the Soukyoko hill (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/175/12) we know that he wasn’t satisfied with his own results, so he checked in the archives for other similar research. He knew Urahara was somewhat familiar with the hollowfication process - he recognized it immediately in Aizen’s presence in the Swing Back the Pendulum arc (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.11/07) - and therefore focused his search to Urahara’s own records. He had to stumble across the hogyouku and its use, given sufficient reading.

[delapaz13]

in what episode was Stark's Zanpakuto shown?

[goldb]

in what episode was Stark's Zanpakuto shown?

Stark has yet to show his zanpakuto. As a matter of fact we don't know any of the top 3 espada's zanpakuto's names nor resureccion.

[kkck]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/25/18/
just want to make sure of something; Is that guy droy, the arrancar rukia killed when grimmjow invaded karakura?

[nordicbattlesigns]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/25/18/
just want to make sure of something; Is that guy droy, the arrancar rukia killed when grimmjow invaded karakura?


It certainly seems so, checking up on the bleach wiki page seems to confirm it. (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/D-Roy) Certainly the same teeth and bandage wrapped head if nothing else.

[nalex94]

Has anyone thought about the Vizard? I mean after the Gaiden arc I thought that they would be in the Battle to come but for like 35 chapters they havent been in the story. whats with that

[infamy]

Remember that Karakuri Town has been transported to Soul Society, so that's where they are.

[nalex94]

but dont u think that Shinji Rose Love and Kensei at least would no if they were switching or Urahara would have told them

[Exodi]

Yeah....they're probably protecting Soul Society.

[nalex94]

that makes sense

[kkck]

I just got a wierd thought. Byakuyas and uraharas zampakutos are called senbonsakura and benihime. Because of their names, it si safe to assume their spirits are actually women. Now, lets say they turn into vizards. Isnt there a high chance that their inner hollows are also women? That would mean that urahara byakuya could experience a sex change if their inner hollows ever take over lol.

[THM Nindo]

I've been thinking about the Hyougoku for a moment.
Every Shinigami that was in contact with it became a Vizard (see the Pendelum arc)...

We also saw that Ichigo as become a Vizard, and that might be to the exposition to the Hyougoku (that was inside Rukia)...

So... my question is : Why Rukia isn't a Vizard?
The Hyougoku was inside her (inside her "fake" body, but whatever).

She definitely was more in contact with it than everyone else.
Any explanation for this?

I think that, maybe, she might get the same power up than Ichigo later on.
She might turn into a Vizard... that's something I'd like to see :p

What do you think?

[kkck]

I've been thinking about the Hyougoku for a moment.
Every Shinigami that was in contact with it became a Vizard (see the Pendelum arc)...

We also saw that Ichigo as become a Vizard, and that might be to the exposition to the Hyougoku (that was inside Rukia)...

So... my question is : Why Rukia isn't a Vizard?
The Hyougoku was inside her (inside her "fake" body, but whatever).

She definitely was more in contact with it than everyone else.
Any explanation for this?

I think that, maybe, she might get the same power up than Ichigo later on.
She might turn into a Vizard... that's something I'd like to see :p

What do you think?

The vizards didnt become vizards through the orb though. At that moment aizen did something to them but it wasnt with the orb. The vizards were exposed to the orb by kisuke later on which might have turned them into complete vizards(in the same way arrancar exposed to the orb are completed) but we cant really say it was the orb itself which turned them into what they are.
There is a posibility that the fact that urahara had the orb for many years before the story and the fact that he has some sort of relationship with ishin contributed to ichigo being hybrid but at the moment it is pure speculation.
And finally, rukia was exposed to a dormant hogyoku so there is no way it actually had any effect on her.

[LightningBlade!]

THe Hyougoku was sealed within rukia in a crystall case which might have stopped any interaction with her... more over you need hella lot of reatsu to use the gem.. rukia isn't in the league of a aizen or urahara who might have used it earlier...

when rukia came to the real world, urahara made a gigai which would make it impossible for rukia to reattain her reatsu... maybe he felt that she was of captain class and could accidentaly trigger the Hyougoku.........

[Charlie]

No, the reason why Uraharah gave Rukia the gigai was to turn her into a human. Not because she could some how use a seald Hogyoku.

It was revealed already that the Hogyoku was inside Rukia before she came to the Soul Society.

Uraharah's intention in giving Rukia the gigai was an attempt to have the Hogyoku destroyed, so no one, inculding Aizen would be able to use it.

Hence how the whole SS arc starts, Aizen realized that when Rukia's spiritual pressure disappeared that Uraharah was behind it. So after finding out where she was, he then killed Central 46, cast his hypnosis over the area, then he had the order changed. Byakuya and Renji were sent instead after Rukia to ensure that she would be captured.

[ninjaman]

um random post http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/11/
who the hell are they didnt see them in anime o.0

[Forever_Melody]

um random post http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/177/11/
who the hell are they didnt see them in anime o.0

Remember Jidanbou (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/72/03/)? He was the guardian of one of the Gates to Seireitei. Well, there are 4(one at each cardinal point I think) and those are the other 3 guardians >.>

[Hockeychaoz]

What page is it where Hitsugaya is standing outside of Hinamori's room and Unohana approachs him.

And he says something like...

"The current me has nothing to say to her."

[Exodi]

What page is it where Hitsugaya is standing outside of Hinamori's room and Unohana approachs him.

And he says something like...

"The current me has nothing to say to her."

I don't think that part happens in the manga.

Here's where he's standing outside of Hinamori's room, in the manga.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/180/18/

Here's the same scene in the anime, but with Unohana approaching him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftcN5NrETs0&feature=related

It's in Spanish, but at 6:50 it translates to "Actually, I have nothing to tell her"

[Tsukisama]

If you pay close attention, you notice that quite a few of the scenes with Unohana in the anime are not actually in the manga. Another example would be when the anime shows her as the person who healed Renji after being defeated by Byakuya when in the manga it was actually Hanatarou who healed Renji. I think it is done just to give Unohana and her seiyuu more airtime.

[delapaz13]

but i remember it was shown when he kidnapped orihime from ichigo and kenpachi in the anime.

[Castriota]

no that was his sonido, if i'm not mistaken

[delapaz13]

it was shown in episode 203 it had a square crossguard and a yellow sheath and handle if im correct... my friend told me about it if what he told me was right.

[Castriota]

sorry my post had nothing to do with what you were talking about hahaha
um yeah i just looked and at one point where he says it annoys me to be doing this, the camera zooms out a bit and you can see it.

[goldb]

oh ok, we've seen his zanpaktou and halibel..but not barragan's. what i meant on my previous post is that we haven't seen its release.

[Gecko Moria]

I wonder how the strength of the hollow "counterpart" is decided when someone is hollowfied. Is it based on their current strength or something else?

[Forever_Melody]

I wonder how the strength of the hollow "counterpart" is decided when someone is hollowfied. Is it based on their current strength or something else?

I'd assume it's based on the same logic that assumes what strength a hollow is when it's created from a regular human soul. I mean, we've seen early on that hollows have specific powers(from acid to mind control for example) that vary in variety and power.

I suppose there might be some pre-disposition as to the "quality" of a given soul when it turns into a hollow. Perhaps it also has to do with the latent instincts of the soul since hollows are being of instincts.

[Evil3ye]

Do anyone remember which chapter it was, when Shawlong said the Arrancar Numbers above 10 are not the strenghtier but the order in which Aizen created them? :notrust

[Bolshoi Hui]

Chapter 209 page 3, man.

[Yakedo-Tenchou]

Reading back through a LOT of translations including SleepyFans, Viz, Manga-Rain, and M7, the Espada's titles seem incorrect to me. I'm not an expert in Spanish (Hell, I'm a complete novice at best...), but don't the ordinals (First, Second, etc.) have masculine and feminine versions as well? If this is the case, then previous translations would be wrong, right?

If I'm correct, then it'd be:
Primero Espada Stark
Segundo Espada Barragan
Tercera Espada Halibel
Cuatro Espada Ulquiorra
Quinto Espada Nnoitra
Sexto Espada Grimmjow
Septimo Espada Zommari
Octavo Espada Aporro
Nuveno Espada Aaroneiro
Decimo Espada Yammy

But I don't know if the gender of the ordinals is determined by the title "Espada" being feminine or by the gender of the one who holds the title...Could someone who speaks Spanish please clear this up for me?

[Metal D. Reaper]

Soo I just restart reading Bleach but I am wondering if I best start to see the anime or read the manga.
Because I don't wanna spend my time doing both because bleach is not my favortite manga.
And I read other manga's then just bleach but I am at chapter 72 on the anime but don't know if I continue with the anime or continue with the manga please some help.

[studiokid]

I'd say go read the manga, quicker, its more cannon and won't lead you astray like the anime, but if you see a fight or anything you want to see animated along the way just go download that episode and watch it...

[~Joshua~]

If you don't want to spend to much time on Bleach, read the manga. The anime includes fillers which aren't particularly canon and are irritatingly time-consuming.

[Raizen]

If you don't want to spend to much time on Bleach, read the manga. The anime includes fillers which aren't particularly canon and are irritatingly time-consuming.
extremely annoying. I hate fillers. It mess up the story line and makes it confusing.

[Aikidoka]

Reading back through a LOT of translations including SleepyFans, Viz, Manga-Rain, and M7, the Espada's titles seem incorrect to me. I'm not an expert in Spanish (Hell, I'm a complete novice at best...), but don't the ordinals (First, Second, etc.) have masculine and feminine versions as well? If this is the case, then previous translations would be wrong, right?

If I'm correct, then it'd be:
Primero Espada Stark
Segundo Espada Barragan
Tercera Espada Halibel
Cuatro Espada Ulquiorra
Quinto Espada Nnoitra
Sexto Espada Grimmjow
Septimo Espada Zommari
Octavo Espada Aporro
Nuveno Espada Aaroneiro
Decimo Espada Yammy

But I don't know if the gender of the ordinals is determined by the title "Espada" being feminine or by the gender of the one who holds the title...Could someone who speaks Spanish please clear this up for me?
The Espada titles were already in their feminine forms in the original published chapters, I guess either Kubo wanted it like that or he messed up...

It's not a translation mistake. That's just the way Kubo did it, there's no distinction between genders and it's all feminine.

[faisfa1]

Why is it that Chad and Orihime can access their powers in their human form while Ichigo can't?

[stevenash]

Chad and Orihime's power are still unknown...we only know that Ichigo's reiatsu awaken them...but we still have no idea what they are...Ichigo's power on the other hand are soul type power (power only gotten after human usually die...Shinigami and Hollow)...there's still may mysteries about Orihime and Chad's power....it seems they are unknown to even the oldest and powerful of Shinigami...:D...

[kkck]

Ichigo has his reiatsu in any form he is in though, I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to use kido(if he knew any) or his mask when in his human body lol.

[zerocooldx]

Chad and Inoue have Hollow type/class powers. As was evident by Chad saying he feels more power, or something along those lines, when he entered Hueco Mundo. The same happens to Shinigami when they are in Soul Society, or Quincy when they are around spiritual particles. Chad and Inoue have gotten their powers because of Ichigo, his lack of Reiatsu control influenced those closest to him. And it's even started to affect more of his friends, giving them the ability to see souls.

[TheLoneWarrior222]

The only hint that Orhime's powers are hollow-like is when Hachi says her powers are similar to his. His powers are a mix of Shinigami and Hollow. Other then that, saying her powers are Hollow like is a stretch.

[lexx]

Chad and Innoue can access them in living body form because they weren't written to be death gods like Ichigo was. That's all, really.

Bleach isn't really deeply written, so it's sorta pointless to look for significant minutiae.

[faisfa1]

Ichigo has his reiatsu in any form he is in though, I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to use kido(if he knew any) or his mask when in his human body lol.

In that case, shouldn't the humans be crushed by his reiatsu alone?
He has captain level reiatsu that he can't control. Yet, no human is phazed by his spiritual pressure.

[Chaoswind]

because normal humans can't feel a THING...

[kkck]

In that case, shouldn't the humans be crushed by his reiatsu alone?
He has captain level reiatsu that he can't control. Yet, no human is phazed by his spiritual pressure.

The reiatsu he leaked in his human form was enough to give powers to his friends though. It also hampered rukias ability to feel reiatsu in the first chapter. I guess if he consciously released all of his reiatsu in the human world the people around him would fall unconscious.

[stevenash]

Ishida said his reiatsu was usually at minimum level....

Anyway....I got a question....it seems many people talks about Tousen using another Bankai...or was it another sword....when was this, what chapter?....I only remember him using it during the fight with Kenpachi?

[Exodi]

Ishida said his reiatsu was usually at minimum level....

Anyway....I got a question....it seems many people talks about Tousen using another Bankai...or was it another sword....when was this, what chapter?....I only remember him using it during the fight with Kenpachi?

Hm....well, he's only used one sword and one Bankai, so perhaps you mean the fact that he's using another person's sword:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/148/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/148/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/148/09/

And yes, this is during his fight with Kenpachi.

[deathgod6664820]

question guys, wasent shawlong a adjucha arrancar?

look here http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/284/08/

we all know grimjaw is and shawlong doesnt look like the gillian menos in the back of the picture, idk did i miss somthing?

[choke_a_beech]

shawlong and the rest of Grimmjow's fraccion (excluding the fat guy with half a mask) were adjuchas. fat guy with half mask was a gillian. gillians with a dominant personality have a different mask than standard gillians. there is footage of a gillian eating another gillian - that was shawlong, evident by the mask. originally it was said Grim's fraccion were gillian but that was incorrect. just another of many stuff ups by kubo.

[kkck]

shawlong and the rest of Grimmjow's fraccion (excluding the fat guy with half a mask) were adjuchas. fat guy with half mask was a gillian. gillians with a dominant personality have a different mask than standard gillians. there is footage of a gillian eating another gillian - that was shawlong, evident by the mask. originally it was said Grim's fraccion were gillian but that was incorrect. just another of many stuff ups by kubo.

I don't think kubo would make such a dumb mistake lol. This is what we know:

1.- Most of grimmjows fraccion were at some point adjuca.
2.- Aizen said grimmjows fraccion were gillian

Now, what do we know about menos grande that would make both statements actually true? That leads me to the third point.

3.- It is possible for adjuca to revert back to gillian.

Now, we have two options:

1.- Believe kubo is on crack and he writes his manga on random rants of unmeasurable amounts of stupidity.
2.- Use a simple 1 + 1 operation and believe that grimmjows fraccion actually reverted to gillian while grimmjow continued to grow stronger.

I don't know about the rest of you but I think the second option is very reasonable.

[Eddy01741]

It makes even more sense so as in Grimmjow's mini gaiden, his "wolfpack" containing shawlong and crew gave up after they didn't feel themselves continue to grow in power, so most likely they reverted into gillian while Grimmjow continued to try and grow stronger.

[choke_a_beech]

but didn't grimm eat a part of them each to prevent them from reverting?

that would mean they would all remain adjuchas (excluding gillian half mask) even when Aizen arrancarized them - hence making them adjuchas arrancar.

[Aikidoka]

but didn't grimm eat a part of them each to prevent them from reverting?
We don't know that. All we saw was Shawlong asking him to, and then a shot of Grimmjaw's face. His expression didn't tell us whether he'd agree or not.

And thanks for the post kkck. I actually asked the exact same question a while ago (about them being Adjuchas back then and then Gillians later), and got the same answer. Thanks. =)

[choke_a_beech]

i am strongly inclined to believe grim did bite them. in the flashbacks we saw them in their natural adjuchas forms and they looked exactly the same as when they all ressurrecioned during the fight with Hitsu, Matsumoto, Yumich, Ikkaku and all that crap. They looked relatively the same, some had minor differences (i.e volcano dude had his head a bit different) but in essence they were the same. We never saw fat gillian half mask resurrected, so we don't know how we would have looked. But i'm assuming gillian arrancar don't ressurrect back to their menos form cause AA look like an octopussy.

[kkck]

but didn't grimm eat a part of them each to prevent them from reverting?

that would mean they would all remain adjuchas (excluding gillian half mask) even when Aizen arrancarized them - hence making them adjuchas arrancar.

Getting eaten means evolution stops right then and there but nothing was said about retrogression. For all we know shaolong new he was going to lose his adjuca status and revert and simply wanted his "king" to bite him in a last attempt to help him go further.

[choke_a_beech]

sort of like "i can't fulfill my dreams, so i'll do anything i can to help you?" that could be right. i don't know. ultimately this is all damn kubo's fault, stop making so many effing inconsistencies!

[~Joshua~]

Getting eaten means evolution stops right then and there but nothing was said about retrogression. For all we know shaolong new he was going to lose his adjuca status and revert and simply wanted his "king" to bite him in a last attempt to help him go further.

So Grimmjow biting Shawlong would alow Shawlong to evolve even further?

[ryanzokuken]

ok....

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/285/08/ just read on from there.

they gave up because they knew they couldn't progress, but he could.

they asked him to eat pieces of them to help him. so he did. obviously he didn't eat them completely since they were still there.

[~Joshua~]

ok....

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/285/08/ just read on from there.

they gave up because they knew they couldn't progress, but he could.

they asked him to eat pieces of them to help him. so he did. obviously he didn't eat them completely since they were still there.

I was referring to something else someone else previously stated. I agree with what you had to say however.

[kkck]

So Grimmjow biting Shawlong would alow Shawlong to evolve even further?

No, the other way around. Letting grimmjow bite shaolong would help grimmjow go further.....

[choke_a_beech]

ok but if they were all gillian - why did they release back into their adjuchas form? shouldn't they release into a gillian-ish form instead? i wish kubo made this shit a little clearer. what do adjuchas who revert back to gillians look like when released (their adjuchas or gillian forms?)

also grimmjow took a bite out of one of his fraccion. The hollow wore a bandange over his head once arrancarized. That guy didn't get absorbed into grim. he was still alive and kickin. but later he got frozen to death by rukia. i think bitin stops you from reverting back to what you were before, but also prevents you from evolving. also i think biting and eating does the same thing - but eating means you kill the hollow by fully absorbing him into your system allowing for you one step closer to evolving, whereas biting does the same thing, but on a much smaller scale, leaving the hollow still alive.

i'm sure if was said somewhere, hopefully i can find it and provide a link soon. but if that was true, wouldn't members of grims fraccion have bandages on account of grimm biting them somewhere?

[kkck]

ok but if they were all gillian - why did they release back into their adjuchas form? shouldn't they release into a gillian-ish form instead? i wish kubo made this shit a little clearer. what do adjuchas who revert back to gillians look like when released (their adjuchas or gillian forms?) also grimmjow took a bite out of one of his fraccion. The hollow wore a bandange over his head once arrancarized. That guy didn't get absorbed into grim. he was still alive and kickin. he got frozen to death by rukia. i think bitin stops reverting back to what you were before, but also prevents you from evolving. i'm sure if was said somewhere, hopefully i can find it and provide a link soon.
Now you just asked way too deep.... As I said, the only way to make everything fit appropiately, including grimmjow gaiden and the statements so far, retrogression is the only good explantion.

As for the release thing, if all gillian arrancar looked the same, the maga would be boring... Maybe when gillian are turned into arrancar and release, they turn into a form that reflects their own innate power rather than assuming gillian form... Just a guess though, kubo has yet to explain this...

Also, I am sure nothing has been said about being eaten and not regressing, for all we know adjuca still regress even though they were eaten.

[Chaoswind]

Question

Is true that Kubo said in one of his interciews that there was another level beyond Bankai?

If it is, please give me a link or something cause I refuse to believe it... and if it is a LIE, then I will become a muderer, but I won't be comvicted because killing retards is not a crime in my country.

[Exodi]

Question

Is true that Kubo said in one of his interciews that there was another level beyond Bankai?

If it is, please give me a link or something cause I refuse to believe it... and if it is a LIE, then I will become a muderer, but I won't be comvicted because killing retards is not a crime in my country.

LMAO

Probably not.

[Musashi_Keiji]

I'm not really that big of a bleach fan. It was interesting fights and I like fighting animes so I read and watch it to see what kind of crazy stuff they'll pull out of their arse next to defeat the enemy.

I've come to accept that many of the plotholes in Bleach just aren't that big of a deal... like how everyone inexplicably flies around now but at the beginning only people with that specific power of talisman thing(like Ichigo had from Yoruchi).

A LONG time ago.... like the beginning of the series... it was explained that when a hollow is killed, the soul isn't really killed. But rather purified. And after that the soul goes on to live in soul society(aka heaven, though it looks more like 16th centure japanese slums).

But if the person was bad/evil like say a murdered or rapist his soul would go to Hell. And there is one episode where you see the Hell Gate appear and some crazy looking demon dude drag the evil soul into it....

So this now brings up my question for the plot hole.
Vasto Lorde, gillians, Espadas, etc. Are explained to be the result after a crap ton of hollows join together.
So when an espada is killed what happens?

Do all the souls that made up that espada through its history go their own seperate was back to soul society and the ones that were evil into hell?

Or being made of "spirit particles" upon death do they just dissolve into spirit particles as it seems Ulquiorra did?

[kkck]

Thats question has been asked a million times and has remained unanswered a million times.

[Chaoswind]

option 2 most likely

When a Shinigami/Plus dies they don't reincarnate... they just dissolve and become spirit particles taking into account that this is NOT instant...

Since Arrancars are Half Shinigami, in theory they suffer the same destiny of every shinigami that dies.

[kkck]

^But what happens to the souls an arrancar consumed when he was a hollow? Recently I began thinking that hollows that are consumed aren't actually a part of the hollow which consumed them, they simply die and the power of the hollow which consumed them increased... That would make the situation a whole lot simpler....

[Chaoswind]

Indeed

probably when a Hollow eats an spirit that spirit doesn't become part of the hollow, the spirit particles do... that would make more sense imo

[kkck]

I hollow who is slained by a shinigami zampajuto goes to SS as a plus. If a plus is slain by an arrancar sword does it become a hollow? Or what if it slains a hollow? Does that hollow go to SS?

Just throwing that out there...

[Kaizoku-O Luffy]

i saw this on one manga, is chapter 380 is the last chapter of bleach?

[monkey D luffy]

we all know that hollowes killed him but he was still a person and not a spirit so he mustve gone somewhere right? the question is, do you think he was sent to soul society or did he go to huecu mundo and turned into a hollow? or maybe it works entirely different for quincys

[[Ju-Ni]Vicissitude]

He wasn't dead when the Shinigami showed up. They brought him back and Mayuri got him so he could study Quincy powers. That's why Ishida went all "final form" on his ass. Mayuri showed him the pictures of what was left of Ishida's grandfather.

[kkck]

I thought he did die but mayuri captured his soul and studied him....
[hr]
Some time ago someone in this forum mentioned that the manga said only 5th seat officers and above could fight menos. Where in the manga was that ever said, I have been looking for that but I cannot find it....
[hr]
Meh, no ne answered my previous question **cough**bastards**cough**.... Anyways, here is another.

As some people may have nticed in the spoiler duscussion thread, I might ave taken a lking to komamura´s bankai(not that it actually has anything to do with the spoiler BTW) and that got me thinking. We know the warrior moves the same way as komamura does, but I was wondering to what extent it acts that way. Komamura in his fights have never proved to be partcularly fast or agile(by captain standards, he would rape any VC level dude any day) but lets say his bankai imitates his every movement to the letter. If it does imitate komamuras every move to the letter, then this thing could potentally jump, shunpo and god knows what else at the same capacty komamura can which would result in an insanely overpowered bankai(which would seriously contrast the beleve that komamura is the weakest of the captains). What do you guys think?

[Starzen]

great Idea but the problem is that most captain class are speed demons and can even tank a cero which means all that power is useless if you can't reach your target and your target can also take you out in one hit. regarding ur other question I think hitsu said that after GJ first attack in the real world.

[kkck]

I have no dea of what your point is lol.

[Starzen]

he is too slow to matter.

[kkck]

Komamura s slow by captain standards but that does not mean he is slow in comparison to anyone. He could have captain level speed even if that is not his strong point. In any case, the possibility of a thing that big being capable of such movement could cause a serious change of mnd in the general opinion involving kmamuras overall power.

[Ozehro]

Now you just asked way too deep.... As I said, the only way to make everything fit appropiately, including grimmjow gaiden and the statements so far, retrogression is the only good explantion.

As for the release thing, if all gillian arrancar looked the same, the maga would be boring... Maybe when gillian are turned into arrancar and release, they turn into a form that reflects their own innate power rather than assuming gillian form... Just a guess though, kubo has yet to explain this...

Also, I am sure nothing has been said about being eaten and not regressing, for all we know adjuca still regress even though they were eaten.

the bold part is exactly what I think as well. there's nothing to suggest
that they stop retrogression. then they would have just done it instead
of seeking evolution. if I understand correctly VL's are the last evolution.
as in retrogression and other negative things of hollows might actually end.

[sindergi]

Hi,

ok it obvious that kubo like to use other languages in Bleach - but which languages does he use?

Ok spanish seems to be his favorit one and most things which are related to quincy are in german.

Which other languages does he use ?
I just recognize these two - but I cant speak other languages so I dint realize if he used other ones. Did you recognize others ?

[kkck]

Hi,

ok it obvious that kubo like to use other languages in Bleach - but which languages does he use?

Ok spanish seems to be his favorit one and most things which are related to quincy are in german.

Which other languages does he use ?
I just recognize these two - but I cant speak other languages so I dint realize if he used other ones. Did you recognize others ?

I think he uses spanish and german only. What I find most interesting though is how he manages to make things sound as if they were spanish but there also is a japanese meaning to it. For instance barragans resurreccion is "arrogante" but that also means skeleton emperor for instance.

[hyn_pride93]

Kubo use three languages: Japanese, Spanish, and German.

Japanese is associated with the Shinigami. Spanish is associated with the Arrancar. German is associated with the Quincy. Those are the only languages that he uses, apparently. :amuse

[Exodi]

He also uses English, for chapter and volume titles.

[Black Lagoon]

Japanese, Spanish, English and German.

[obamamania]

What chapter was this menos intrusion from:
http://www.bleachportal.net/fanart/artwork/1151810367_backgroundashley24.jpg
Or was it from something else (yes i know that whole scene isn't real, but the menos part is)

[Exodi]

Chapter 178

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/178/04-05/

[obamamania]

Chapter 178

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/178/04-05/

WOW, I searched that chapter around 5 times lol and was looking at pages 6 and beyond, thanks lol.

[shailks]

I have only recently started reading bleach. I came across the star points of various gotei 13 captains. Does it really reflect their strength because according to it unohana should be really strong than all the other captains, barring the commander? Also ukitake seem more powerful than buakuga.

[Josear XIII]

Well from a point of view of course Byakuya is weaker than Ukitake, but the bleach captain stats just reflect how good they are in those areas, not as comparison between them but as their personal achievements and levels.

Kenpachi is insanely strong, and as you will see as you advance he is stronger than a lot of captains who by the stats seems stronger than him, you can put it this way, those are just how good they are in those areas pointed in the stats, but that is not the amount of power they can wield.

I dont want to give you anymore spoilers so keep reading, at leat i hope i have clarified your doubts

[juice88]

can anybody show me the page where yammi appeared right in front of rukia while she was fight the tree arrancar i think its in one of the lust chapters

[TheNightmareBG]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/352/02/

[Deid]

what chapter was when Yammy show his number before resurrection ?

[TheNightmareBG]

I can't understand you very good, but you probably mean the chapter in which his espada rank is revealed - http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/229/04/

[Galbert-Kun]

What chapter did Loly release escolovendra?

[Exodi]

What chapter did Loly release escolovendra?

Chapter 343, The Gluttony

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/343/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/343/08/

[Izkity]

What chapter is Byakuya's cover page in?

[Exodi]

What chapter is Byakuya's cover page in?

Do you mean this?
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/138/03/

[Izkity]

...has changed?

When he is first introduced, his mask is rather "messy" - not shaped well, a bit cracked round the sides, as shown here.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/190/19/

Has it just changed as Kubo's drawing style has developed? :blink

[Renji88]

Has it just changed as Kubo's drawing style has developed? :blink

yes

ulquiorra after 5 chapters:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/195/04/

[slmcknett]

You know how each member of the Espada has a title page with them and their English romanized name on them? Which chapters have the pages for Barragan, Zommari, and Nnoitra? Those are the only ones that I can't seem to find.

Thank you in advance.

[Exodi]

You know how each member of the Espada has a title page with them and their English romanized name on them? Which chapters have the pages for Barragan, Zommari, and Nnoitra? Those are the only ones that I can't seem to find.

Thank you in advance.

Zommari:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/300/02/

Nnoitra:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/287/08/


I don't believe Barragan ever got one of those pages. At least, I don't remember ever seeing one.

Well....he did get several covers in his released form (at least 2 or 3). I bet Kubo loves drawing him.

[After_Image]

what chapter is it where Yoruichi fights Yammi?

This chapter 194 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/194/02/)
[hr]
thank you Tsukisama!!!

[slmcknett]

Not sure if this goes here, but can someone help me find the quotes at the beginning of all of the tankobon. You know, before the chapter list (like on the 3rd page in). I've found some, but not all of them, and I wanted to know what they said. Thank you.

[kkck]

I am confused about something regarding shunsui. The first technique he used was called busho umma. The technique basically sent a powerful gust of wind against starrk. The technique is named after the spinning top game. What confuses me is what kind of game this is. Who wins? Who loses? Given the fight it did not seem to have a winner or loser, as was the case with every other game shunsui used, it simply created a diversion for another of shunsui's games. Even the name is somewhat different from the other games. This is busho umma while the other games are iro oni, taka oni and kage oni. It did not even follow the rule the other games had(win= live-lose= die). Is it really a game or is it possible kyoraku has wind based abilities? I am inclined to think it is a game but the differences between that game and the others are way too big IMHO. Any thoughts?

[Tsukisama]

I am confused about something regarding shunsui. The first technique he used was called busho umma. The technique basically sent a powerful gust of wind against starrk. The technique is named after the spinning top game. What confuses me is what kind of game this is. Who wins? Who loses? Given the fight it did not seem to have a winner or loser, as was the case with every other game shunsui used, it simply created a diversion for another of shunsui's games. Even the name is somewhat different from the other games. This is busho umma while the other games are iro oni, taka oni and kage oni. It did not even follow the rule the other games had(win= live-lose= die). Is it really a game or is it possible kyoraku has wind based abilities? I am inclined to think it is a game but the differences between that game and the others are way too big IMHO. Any thoughts?

I think Bushou Koma is a game based on a spinning top, which is a really simple game of just spinning the top. Not all games need to have winners and losers. Like a game of paddleball, it can be played individually and is simplistic in nature.

The other games were based off of games that require more than the individual to play and have more rules. That's the big difference. Bushou Koma is still a game, and just because it isn't as intricate as the other games Shunsui displays doesn't mean it is any less of a game.

[goldb]

Quick question, Has Aarroniero had a title page with the correct spelling for his name?
If someone knows one for all the Espada current and former could you please make a link to all. thanks :)

[Tsukisama]

Here is the page for Aaroniero here (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/267/02/)

Four posts up are the ones for Nnoitora and Zommari. I can try to look for the others later (and edit them into this post) if you like.

Here (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/274/07/)'s Szayel
Here (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/231/02/)'s Yammy
Here (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/233/04/)'s Luppi

Can I help too? :lovebunny
Starrk: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/362/05/
Harribel: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/358/07/
(Bonus - found by accident xD)Lilynette: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/360/04/

Thanks, Goodsy!!! :hug The more help, the merrier! :whoabunny

[Forever_Melody]

Hmm there's one thing that's always kind of bothered me, but that I never bothered to look up:

Can someone explain or provide me a manga(or databook) explanation of spiritual pressure? I know what it is, but I have a hard time picturing it. :s

I mean, how does showing your power create pressure? Like, does releasing reiatsu in the surroundings make air go heavy or something? And what of the area? Seems spiritual pressure can be concentrated(ex: when Yamamoto used it on Nanao or when Aizen used it on Grimmjow), how does that work? Seems like it's activated by eye contact, which further makes me fall into confusion as to how it works >.>

Maybe it's like genjutsu in Naruto or something >_>

[Tsukisama]

Hmm there's one thing that's always kind of bothered me, but that I never bothered to look up:

Can someone explain or provide me a manga(or databook) explanation of spiritual pressure? I know what it is, but I have a hard time picturing it. :s

I mean, how does showing your power create pressure? Like, does releasing reiatsu in the surroundings make air go heavy or something? And what of the area? Seems spiritual pressure can be concentrated(ex: when Yamamoto used it on Nanao or when Aizen used it on Grimmjow), how does that work? Seems like it's activated by eye contact, which further makes me fall into confusion as to how it works >.>

Maybe it's like genjutsu in Naruto or something >_>

I can look for a manga and/or databook explanation too, but to give you my interpretation of it, a better Naruto analogy might be likening it to chakra than genjutsu. It is the spiritual power of an entity. This power can manifested in a variety of ways, as a pressure (in a rather raw form) or power for an attack (focusing their reiatsu within their attacks to make them stronger).

We know that the metaphysical world of Bleach largely dependent upon reishi (spirit particles). I would imagine the manipulation of reishi also has something to do with application of reiatsu, but I don't know if that has been confirmed.

I think that when the term (reiatsu) is first used it is given a brief description in the manga (which I will try to find by tomorrow or so), but I don't recall it being ever explained in any more depth in the actual manga. Kubo may have mentioned something about it in the databook, but I doubt that he would go into much detail about it, as the mechanics of many things like kidou, shinigami birth/death, and nature of zanpakutou are given not explained in detail either.

[Forever_Melody]

Hmm I hadn't thought of the idea of Reishi. Now that you mention it, perhaps a large burst of spirit energy in the air could somehow affect Reishi particles and produce this so called effect of "pressure".

Of course, this wouldn't explain how it can be directed at a singular being unless you can genuinely alter it to such a degree.

Also, the pressure of spiritual pressure has been seen in the real world, which unless I'm mistaken, isn't made up entirely of Reishi.

[Tsukisama]

Hmm I hadn't thought of the idea of Reishi. Now that you mention it, perhaps a large burst of spirit energy in the air could somehow affect Reishi particles and produce this so called effect of "pressure".

Of course, this wouldn't explain how it can be directed at a singular being unless you can genuinely alter it to such a degree.

Also, the pressure of spiritual pressure has been seen in the real world, which unless I'm mistaken, isn't made up entirely of Reishi.

Well, there is reishi present in the real world, just less of it. Quincy attacks are based upon utilizing ambient reishi; so, since Quincy can attack in the real world, reishi must be there as well.

As for control, it seems that it takes someone very skilled to direct reiatsu at an individual, as we have only seen powerful characters do that against less powerful characters.

[mr.danly]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/231/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/69/03/

Most of these people seem to be.... well, not exactly human. These weird monster-looking things seem to be in charge of surveillance of the human world. I assume that they work for Mayuri in the 12th division, but why do they look so.... well, freakish? They clearly aren't human. Did Mayuri create them, or experiment on souls or something? Because one weird thing is Akon. If you remember the "lets turn back the pendulum" arc, there's some little kid named Akon who Hiyori gets pissed off at in Urahara's lab.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.06/12/

But when we see him here:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/69/04/

he doesn't seem very human anymore. In 100 years or so of working under Mayuri, his very form has changed. So is it a safe assumption that Kurotsuchi screwed with him and changed him a little bit?

[kkck]

They are clearly 12 division members so it is not that unusual IMHO lol. The 12th division works under mayuri. From what little we have seen from mayuri and his division everyone seems to like experimenting and stuff. I'd think that if someone is to survive as a member of the 12th division a basic minimun element of "freak" is nesesary. Someone like that is bound to modify his own body or get caught up in a few lab accidents. Some of them could even be former residents of the maggots nest as mayuri was given that urahara actually planned to put a bunch of the freaks there to use..
[hr]
Ok, some time ago I noticed something about las noches. I wanted to start a thread about it but I figured this was not a big a deal to actually do that. Apparently there has been a change in what it looks like. This is what las noches looked like at it's introduction:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/244/10-11/
And this is what it looked like when ulquiorra and ichigo fought:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

What happened to all the buildings around the dome? Did kishi forgot about them? Maybe aizen is planning something about it(we know passages and stuff can be controlled form the inside, maybe the structure as a whole can also be controlled?)? If you look at the first picture, you can actually see the dome and 5/6 towers where ichigo and ulquiorra fought. Given the picture of the dome when ulquiorra and ichigo fought, it would seem as if either the outer wall and towers vanished or simply where at a considerable distance from the actual dome..... What do you all think?

[Exodi]

Ok, some time ago I noticed something about las noches. I wanted to start a thread about it but I figured this was not a big a deal to actually do that. Apparently there has been a change in what it looks like. This is what las noches looked like at it's introduction:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/244/10-11/
And this is what it looked like when ulquiorra and ichigo fought:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

What happened to all the buildings around the dome? Did kubo forgot about them? Maybe aizen is planning something about it(we know passages and stuff can be controlled form the inside, maybe the structure as a whole can also be controlled?)? If you look at the first picture, you can actually see the dome and 5/6 towers where ichigo and ulquiorra fought. Given the picture of the dome when ulquiorra and ichigo fought, it would seem as if either the outer wall and towers vanished or simply where at a considerable distance from the actual dome..... What do you all think?


I believe it's the latter. The dome itself is so incredibly huge that we can't see the buildings where Ichigo, Chad, and Uryuu first appeared. Plus, the distance from which we see it in chapter 351 is really far...

Kubo probably changed some things, too. It happens.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

Now that I look at it....that is one HUGE explosion. Now I see why people go on about how much stronger Ulquiorra seems over the top 3 Espada.

[kkck]

I believe it's the latter. The dome itself is so incredibly huge that we can't see the buildings where Ichigo, Chad, and Uryuu first appeared. Plus, the distance from which we see it in chapter 351 is really far...

Kubo probably changed some things, too. It happens.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

Now that I look at it....that is one HUGE explosion. Now I see why people go on about how much stronger Ulquiorra seems over the top 3 Espada.

I wonder just how many miles and miles and miles away the towers shown at the begining of the arc would have to be from the dome for them not to b even visible. On the other hand, aizen doing something to vanish tons and tons of a colossal/gargantuan(in all fairness for lack of a stronger word) structure is just about as absurd as the distance that would be required for such a thing. Kishi has shown a few things which appeared as inconsistencies and explained them later so I do think kishi deserves the benefit of the doubt. It'd be interesting if the structure actually diappeared and had something to do with the creation of the key. It would not be so unreasonable considering SS just moved a section of karakura to SS though.
[hr]


Ok, I have been wondering exactly how big is las noches. I have taken a few of the things we have seen and came up with some estimates. This is what I posted on another thread:

This aproximation works assuming las noches is some sort of circle or oval:


Now, lets assume there is a shred of truth to what nel said about the closest entrance to las noches being 3 days away. If we assume she was talking about walking at a normal speed, which is at about 4.5 km/h(at least according to wikipedia), and the entrance she was talking about was at exactly the other side of las noches, this is what we get:

4.5km/h * 72h = 324 km(to the entrance on the other side). That would be half the circumference of las noches. This in turn means las noches has a circumference of 648 km. Now:

2 PI R = 648km

R = 103.18km

Now, that would work assuming the following things:
1.- There is a shred of truth to what nel said
2.- The entrance nel mentioned is at the furthest possible point from when they are(given that las noches seems to be sort of a circle, in this example the entrance would be at the exact other side of where ichigo is). If this is not the case and the entrance nel mentioned is not on the exact opposite side of where ichigo is, then the place would be many times larger than this calculation.
3.- Nel meant 3 days walking at a normal speed. Considering everyone there was a spiritual being considerable capable of speeds MUCH higher than normal walking speed(or even olympic level speed for that matter), I would think nel meant a higher speed.
4.- This works assuming las noches is a circle. If it turns out to be an oval or something of the sort, it would still be a fairly accurate approximation though.

Now, given the past radious:

pi * R^2=
3.14 * (103.18)^2= 33428.79 square KMs




Now, this one is for las noches assuming it is a rectangle or a square:

If we assume las noches is a square(for simplicity because a rectangle would involve too much speculation. A square would likely result in a drastically different size but the scale should be roughly comparable) and the entrance nel mentioned was at the opposite side of where they were;

L= 162
L^2=26224

and now a rectangle(in here I will try to find possible sizes for a rectangles sides based on what we know of the 3 days):


L=162x
l=162(1-x)
162(0.2)*162(0.8)=4199.04
162(0.4)*162(0.6)=6298.56
162(0.6)*162(0.4)=6298.56
162(0.8)*162(0.2)=4199.04

Now, that is what I initially calculated. Later on I noticed that nel probably did not meant 3 days nonstop, that probably included sleep and whatnot. So probably the distance is going to be significantly smaller. If we assume between eating, sleeping and breaks they took 10 hours, then each day they travelled for around 14 hours. So we get this:



4.5km/h * 42h = 189 km(half the circumference)

2PIR=378
R=60.2
PI*R^2=11379.48 Km2

For the square:
L=94.5
L^2=8930.25

And for the rectangle:

94.5(0.2)*94.5(0.8)=1428.84
94.5(0.4)*94.5(0.6)=2143.26
94.5(0.6)*94.5(0.4)=2143.26
94.5(0.8)*94.5(0.2)=1428.84

In conclusion it would seem as if from one side of las noches to the other there are between 50 and 150 Km which makes the actual area of the thing monumentally huge.

I want to note again that I calculated this based on what nel mentioned about an entrance being 3 days away from where ichigo first entered las noches. I also assumed said entrance was on the exact opposite side of las noches. That means this stimations are the smallest possible size las noches can have. This also assumes a walking speed which is most likely the smallest possible speed they could have. If nel meant 3 days at a higher speed(travelling on bawabawa, flying, or just everyone running at top speed) then the size will be a lot larger than what my calculations would suggest.

Now, how big do you all think las noches is? Personally I think kubo meant for las noches to be as massive as my calculations would make it sound but I really want to know what other people think on this.

[Kira Yashima]

I have been wondering about this for a while because he hasn't shown back up.

If it is true i wonder why kyouraku and yamamoto aren't fighting WW.

[poobert]

No. Shinigami don't die silly :P

He was just poked in the chest. Hyori was actually chopped in half and she is still alive. Ichigo got a giant hole in his body and was chopped in half save for his spine in ss. Rukia was stabbed in the body v aarroniero, Chad got a wound similar to the one that killed starrk when he fought nnoitra, Kenpachi gets wounds that would kill Halibel on a daily basis and renji was ripped to shreds by Byakuya's bankai and lived to tell the tale.

The only way to kill a shinigami is to chop off their heads, then assassinate kubo so he can't orihime them back to life.

[kalik2k]

I reckon Ukitake's playing dead as a strategy due to his Zanpakuto being able to absorb an enemies attack and use it against them, that could be a hell of a way to slow down Aizen, it would also explain why Kyorakou and Yammamoto aren't attacking WW.

[R4zr]

Someone please change the title of the discussion to "Do shinigami die in Bleach?" then someone else please answer "No they don't." and then we close the topic :D

[itachisamata]

Someone please change the title of the discussion to "Do shinigami die in Bleach?" then someone else please answer "No they don't." and then we close the topic :D

I've 100% agree with you !!
In this manga good people can't die , they must live because they're "good people". Unlike bad people, bad people must die because they do bad things ;) always .

I hate this logic :mad and please wake up bleach ended in episode 65!!!

[Fox666]

Huh, I can't imagine why to say it ended in the Soul Society arc.

The Arrancar and Hueco Mundo arc were great, until Aizen bring the Shinigami to the human world and them you already know what will happen:
Is he a Shinigami? He survive.
Is he an Arrancar? Them he dies.

[Mangakotlar]

Because it did end with Soul Society. Even that ending wasn't great, with Deus Ex Machina popping in all over the place, via Aizen, and rediculous wtf? moments like when Ichigo teleports right next to Byakuya, cuz he has super speed, but takes an hour to stab him, and only scratches Byakuya's hand. Wtf?
Never mind that Shikai Ichigo defeats Kenpachi, who creams Nnoitora, but Bankai Ichigo loses to Grimmjow like a billion times, never mind some dropout Arrancar at the beginning of the arc.

And no, Ukitake isn't dead. He actually also has a hollow hole in his chest. He's going to be revealed as Aizen's negative primiera espada. He's so espada he's actually a shinigami. That's also why he coughs blood.

[Jiggy-Ninja]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/383/04/

Anyone know exactly what Yammy is shouting on this page?

I can just barely make out (by sme great miracle) ゆるさねぇぞ (I won't forgive you), but the rest after that is just chicken scratch.

Stupid Kubo and his handwriting that isn't even good enough to call God-awful.

[Bromamura]

I wonder just how many miles and miles and miles away the towers shown at the begining of the arc would have to be from the dome for them not to b even visible. On the other hand, aizen doing something to vanish tons and tons of a colossal/gargantuan(in all fairness for lack of a stronger word) structure is just about as absurd as the distance that would be required for such a thing. Kishi has shown a few things which appeared as inconsistencies and explained them later so I do think kishi deserves the benefit of the doubt. It'd be interesting if the structure actually diappeared and had something to do with the creation of the key. It would not be so unreasonable considering SS just moved a section of karakura to SS though.
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Ok, I have been wondering exactly how big is las noches. I have taken a few of the things we have seen and came up with some estimates. This is what I posted on another thread:

This aproximation works assuming las noches is some sort of circle or oval:






Now, this one is for las noches assuming it is a rectangle or a square:


Now, that is what I initially calculated. Later on I noticed that nel probably did not meant 3 days nonstop, that probably included sleep and whatnot. So probably the distance is going to be significantly smaller. If we assume between eating, sleeping and breaks they took 10 hours, then each day they travelled for around 14 hours. So we get this:




In conclusion it would seem as if from one side of las noches to the other there are between 50 and 150 Km which makes the actual area of the thing monumentally huge.

I want to note again that I calculated this based on what nel mentioned about an entrance being 3 days away from where ichigo first entered las noches. I also assumed said entrance was on the exact opposite side of las noches. That means this stimations are the smallest possible size las noches can have. This also assumes a walking speed which is most likely the smallest possible speed they could have. If nel meant 3 days at a higher speed(travelling on bawabawa, flying, or just everyone running at top speed) then the size will be a lot larger than what my calculations would suggest.

Now, how big do you all think las noches is? Personally I think kubo meant for las noches to be as massive as my calculations would make it sound but I really want to know what other people think on this.

Great calculations, I doubt Kubo would let Nel talk crap for no reason, the statement was obviously designed to be informative and to give the reader a general concept of how huge the whole place is. Now that's got me thinking, how big would Sereitei and Karakura town be? I'm under the impression that Sereitei is quite huge also, a very large city at least considering the whole time Ichigo and co spent traversing through it at inhuman speeds.

[kkck]

Great calculations, I doubt Kubo would let Nel talk crap for no reason, the statement was obviously designed to be informative and to give the reader a general concept of how huge the whole place is. Now that's got me thinking, how big would Sereitei and Karakura town be? I'm under the impression that Sereitei is quite huge also, a very large city at least considering the whole time Ichigo and co spent traversing through it at inhuman speeds.

I'd think they are quite big but in the case of sereitei it is almost impossible to know. Karakura should also be at least a few miles accross otherwise the current fights would have already destroyed the pillars. We have contradictory information about that at the moment though.
Here we have that the space between the pillars is around 1 mile, which is at the very least a section of karakura:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315/05/
And here we have that the captains are close to an area 22km from karakura which is also within the pillars:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/316/01/
In any case, the area where the captains are fighting a few dozen miles across. That area could easily contain karakura and apparently other areas. Then again, we have seen that the pillars seem somewhat close to one another which would imply kubo has not taken that much consideration about the whole measurement thing. In any case, it would seem the area within karakura is smaller than las noches though(the calculations I made before where for the smallest it could be). As for sereitei, IDK. Given the few images we have of the whole thing, it would also seem to be at least a few miles across. I do think it is smaller than KK or las noches though, the speeds ichigo and co had at the time would imply that(it was considerably lower than the speed they have now at least). At least chad at the time wasn't anything spectacular(I do think he was faster than a normal human though) and orihime even now that she probably has a reiatsu comparable to a high ranking seated officer or even a VC does not seem to have capacities beyond a normal human.

There is one thing that has been bothering me for a while though.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/244/10-11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/351/08/

What happened to the thing which was around the dome of las noches? There seemed to be a huge wall and towers around the dome and they just disappeared? I just can't imagine such a thing being an error, it is just far too big. I see few possibilities:

1.- Error. Must unlikely thing though.
2.- The wall around the dome of las noches will play a part in the future plot. My own theory is that it could have something to do with the key. I'd be interesting if aizen moved the whole thing to karakura in order to make it. That would probably mean the fights right now are simply a waste of time in order for preparations to be ready.
3.- That wall is actually so far away from the dome that it is hard to see from the dome. It wouldn't make much sense though, unless there was a passage which would take them directly to the dome which would explain why we never saw the sky of HM once they entered the thing.

[SageofSolus]

Can someone refrence the chapter and page where the royal guard has been mentioned? Im seriously confused as to why everyone mentions them constantly like they were talked about in every chapter. I remember them being mentioned in passing... like, once. so why is there so much emphasis on them?

I'd hope , i dunno maybe kubo would do something like having ichigo learn kido and better riatsu control since he's sorely lacking in those departments and maybe, i dunno beef up his other characters other .than introducing more characters.

[Hrathgrath]

Can someone refrence the chapter and page where the royal guard has been mentioned? Im seriously confused as to why everyone mentions them constantly like they were talked about in every chapter. I remember them being mentioned in passing... like, once. so why is there so much emphasis on them?

I'd hope , i dunno maybe kubo would do something like having ichigo learn kido and better riatsu control since he's sorely lacking in those departments and maybe, i dunno beef up his other characters other .than introducing more characters.

I'll do what I can to find the chapters, but it was mentioned twice that I can remember. Once when we first saw a Menos Grande, the first Gillian, and once in the TBTP arc when that captian went to Squad 0, the Royal Guard.

[igotthegoods]

The Royal Guard was mentioned here in the TBTP arc :amuse
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.01/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.01/15/

[Revolation]

As we know Wonderweiss and Superchunky(Fura) came in through the huge gargantua, and it was continuosly seen in the sky throughout the vaizards arrival,

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/365/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/365/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/367/11/


mashirou-wonderweiss scrap, and in some panels after that,

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/367/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/367/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/368/06/

but in a recent panel I've noticed that it is still in the sky

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/377/13/

Is there a reason for that? Just wondering.

[Revolation]

Isn't it possible to just materialize your zanpaktou from youself.

I mean didn't Yoruichi have a zanpkatou in her flashback with urahara when they first built the underground training room in SS, and in the flashback with Soi Fon, but most importantly, when she and Soi Fon had cornered Aizen on soukyo Hill, but she went to SS in cat form so she had to have materialized it right?

and is Hacchi the same way
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/366/02-03/

his appeared in a barrier

[kkck]

That's not garganta lol. That is just hiyori's upper body and a few of her organs. kubo can be quite crude sometimes lol.

[Serenade]

Yup. What kkck said. However, the last we saw of it, the WW/Fura Garganta was still open. And a good portion of Fura was still inside it. I would totally LOL if that thing pulled a Janemba.

[Revolation]

Yup. What kkck said. However, the last we saw of it, the WW/Fura Garganta was still open. And a good portion of Fura was still inside it. I would totally LOL if that thing pulled a Janemba.

yeah the gargantua should still be open, but seeing as how kubo didn't even show when unohana came out of the gargantua, i don't think we will see fura again unless we see his dead body again blocking the gargantua from closing whenever we get back to wonderweiss vs kensei

[Serenade]

Yeah its pretty funny cause that garganta is massive. And we saw less than half of Fura. That thing has legs and such. Lol Kubo. -_-;

[kkck]

There is something I have been wondering about for a while. We know that people who go to SS usually keep the form they had when they died. In that sense, if a kid dies, he will remain a kid forever. Once this people awaken their reiatsu they will start aging again but an extremely slow rate. Does this mean only people who die young can become shinigami? Someone who dies old would also be old in SS so technically he would never have the condition to become a shinigami. What about the souls of those who become spiritually aware in life. Do those souls maintain the same form of the physical body or do they age at the same rate as a normal soul -this in turn would mean the soul would age at a different rate than the body in life though-.

[Revolation]

we all know how yachiru nicknames everybody and i was reading an old chap and realized she called unohana, "unohana" :blink

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/114/08/

is it a mistrans?

also who are some others she hasn't nicknamed?

in the manga she has probrably already met nel around now.(look in my sig in the part about nel and kenpachi)
and grimmjow is still alive right? i wonder if nel is going to decide to revive gimmjow with her drool. that will be a scene.

didn't kubo say he would reveal her namesake a while ago.

and whatever happened to pesche and dondochakka:eyeroll

[Kaskuli_Kapak]

I just read the RAW, and she not only says Unohana, she says "Unohana-san". Unexpected.

[MSofAofCOCA]

eh, as far as i can tell, unohana has one heck of a presence - i'm pretty sure everyone is polite to her (or nearly everyone, kyouraku included lol)
i have a question: is it 10 soul society years = 100 normal years or 100 soulsociety years = 10 normal years? i'm pretty sure it's the former, but seeing as noone seems to recognize Ichigo's dad (or did i miss something somewhere?), only the former would make sense......helps?

[kkck]

Time in SS moves in the same way as in the human world.

[freshseth83]

if they move in the same way then the people in soul society just age much slower, maybe at a 1/10 rate

[MSofAofCOCA]

yeah, that's what i meant... if they age slower, time is technically different for them since that would include all souls and not just shinigami....thank you!

[osking]

How did he die? Was it because H2Ichigo's Cero was slowly killing him? Was it because he simply depleted his reiatsu? Or was it because he gained a heart?

[Boagrious]

He ran out of gas, I think that personally the way he disappeared was like when Hollows devour other Hollows... Remember the Grimjow story, and how he became an Espada? That's how. Ulquiorra got beat by another Hollow figuratively speaking, so to me it is safe to say that.

[Random101]

... Wat? It said it right there. The organs that were lost would not regenerate. Ulquiorra stated right from the beginning that he couldn't generate his organs. Ichinator cut him of several of them with the sword slash (Frankly looking at the sequence it seems the cero did zero damage in light of the general area of the slash and the general straightness of the damage he shows prior to getting up again, even if it is a tad off between the two bits). Lacking what looked to be good parts of a lung, his kidney's and whatever else he lost prior to that caught up with him. By shonen terms at least, most normal situations that'd kill you outright.

[Boagrious]

... Wat? It said it right there. The organs that were lost would not regenerate. Ulquiorra stated right from the beginning that he couldn't generate his organs. Ichinator cut him of several of them with the sword slash (Frankly looking at the sequence it seems the cero did zero damage in light of the general area of the slash and the general straightness of the damage he shows prior to getting up again, even if it is a tad off between the two bits). Lacking what looked to be good parts of a lung, his kidney's and whatever else he lost prior to that caught up with him. By shonen terms at least, most normal situations that'd kill you outright.

Oops, sorry buddy, I was wrong, yet again. I still love Bleach u know.. Then that's the answer, organs were missing...

[osking]

I always thought it was more of the whole heart thing since Ulq had gotten "accustomed" to them torwards the end of the battle, and the fact that Ichigo recognized he was more human like during their second encounter. But yeah I'm starting to agree with Random on the organs part because he couldnt regenerate them, and certainly cant go strolling around with just 1 lung.

[kkck]

It was simply the obliteration of a number of organs, absolutely nothing else. Ulquiorra could not regenerate those so he died.

[Cyber34]

Has Kubo explained why all the Arrancar and Aizen seem to have the same clothing style as Ichigo's Bankai form?

[Charlie]

I think it is more of a contrast or opposite (color wise ) of the Soul Reaper, rather than Ichigo's bankai form.

Soul Reapers, represented by the blank Kimono. Arrancar and Aizen are white, in contrast?

Ichigo's inner hollow was also wearing white.

[Cyber34]

I think it is more of a contrast or opposite (color wise ) of the Soul Reaper, rather than Ichigo's bankai form.

Soul Reapers, represented by the blank Kimono. Arrancar and Aizen are white, in contrast?

Ichigo's inner hollow was also wearing white.

Thanks, I was starting to think the reason for the similarity was due to Aizen's obsession with Ichigo. Out of all the different types of Shihakushou he chooses for himself and his subordinates to wear, he chooses one that looks exactly like Ichigo's but in white.

[Rylynn]

What chapter do we see Ichimaru Gin slice Hiyori in two?

[Exodi]

What chapter do we see Ichimaru Gin slice Hiyori in two?

Here you go:
Chapter 377, "Shout at the Dark"

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/377/12/

[Xsoteria]

What chapter does Yoruichi say "there is no one that can beat Byakuya there", or something to that end? I have no idea to what "there" is she referring, nor what arc is it.

[Gran Maestro]

What chapter does Yoruichi say "there is no one that can beat Byakuya there", or something to that end? I have no idea to what "there" is she referring, nor what arc is it.

It was in SS arc.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/120/03/

[Xsoteria]

Ok when did all the characters start flying and was it ever explained?

[Exodi]

I'm pretty sure that they use their reiatsu to walk on the air and keep themselves afloat. Someone said it somewhere. I want to guess that Yoruichi explained it to Ichigo.

I'm also fairly certain that the anime is what made it seem like shinigami could fly. Right now, I can't think of a moment anyone "flew" in the manga, aside frm when Ichigo used Yoruichi's wing-thing to try and save Rukia.

[Random101]

Zangetsu told Ichigo directly when they first really met that Shinigami gather 'spirits' at their feet to allow them to walk on the air. There have really only been two sort of cases of flying, Ichigo in bankai swerving midair though Senbonzakura, which is probably just midair Shunpos, and Hitsugaya's bankai, which is justified for obvious reasons. Well, and Ulquiorra I suppose but he was more flash stepping all the time rather than flying. His wings didn't get much use.

[Xsoteria]

I was interested if anyone had a link to the explanation. Ulquiorra and Ichigo both flew to the top of the dome. Hallibel also flew after Hitsu. I think I could find a few more examples, but I'd be satisfied with the whole gathering reiatsu at their feet thing, but I don't remember that line at all o_0

(I believe you guys, but I'm arguing with a friend and I need a link to support my argument, and I couldn't find it on my own)

[Exodi]

Here you go, Xsoteria:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/63/09/

According to this, Zangetsu doesn't tell Ichigo that in the anime:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_what_episode_of_Bleach_does_Zangetsu_tell_Ichigo_that_Shinigamis_can_control_spirit_particles_and_stand_in_mid-air

I wonder if that's true.
edit: It is.

[Xsoteria]

Thanx a bunch man, that was exactly what I wanted :D

I love this thread and you guys.

[Hystzen]

so can they fly or not?

it just coz after the Nnorita vs kenpachi ...ichigo flys straight to the ulq fight which is strange coz why did he just fly soon as he was in HM..

[Wilsonpierre]

By the way, sorry for my lack of understanding on that one, someone can explain me if the new movie (hell chapter) is canon since kubo is working on it or just a teaser to future contain in the manga?

[zShadowz]

The Espada titles were already in their feminine forms in the original published chapters, I guess either Kubo wanted it like that or he messed up...

It's not a translation mistake. That's just the way Kubo did it, there's no distinction between genders and it's all feminine.

Hey... well i am potuguese so i can help you a little.

Its allways in feminine.
Because its espada, its the espada (sword) number, and since espada is a word in feminine the numbers should be all feminine.

Thats just how spanish is.

The gender of the character wont affect the grammar there.

Per example.

La primera persona a volver a casa era mi hermano. - Correct
Lo Primeiro persona a volver a casa era mi hermano - Not Correct.

even though my bro is a male the "tittle" of person I set in him is feminine so the number its feminine too xD

So its :

Primera Espada Stark
Segunda Espada Barragan
Tercera Espada Halibel
Cuatra Espada Ulquiorra
Quinta Espada Nnoitra
Sexta Espada Grimmjow
Septima Espada Zommari
Octava Espada Aporro
Nuvena Espada Aaroneiro
Decima Espada Yammy

Sry if I couldnt express it right !

[jiraiyanindo]

Ok when did all the characters start flying and was it ever explained?

the characters can fly is soul rich areas. So in the current battle where they have a fake karakura town made from soul society, the characters can 'fly' because of the enriched soul particles in the air. In the normal environments, they cannot fly. IMO

[Xsoteria]

the characters can fly is soul rich areas. So in the current battle where they have a fake karakura town made from soul society, the characters can 'fly' because of the enriched soul particles in the air. In the normal environments, they cannot fly. IMO

I'm not sure but, I think Grimmjow flew when he first faced Ichi in Karakura Town. Or was that anime only? Damn you One manga, for making my life too easy back when you were up!

[ryanzokuken]

I'm not sure but, I think Grimmjow flew when he first faced Ichi in Karakura Town. Or was that anime only? Damn you One manga, for making my life too easy back when you were up!

bleachexile.com has the whole series up, still! ;)
some of their translations for older chapters might be a little...off, though.

[Hyuna-]

Hey,

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before but it would be awesome if someone can give me an answer!

Basically, me and my friend were debating whether Shinji's release was his Shikai or Bankai. We found it in the manga in chapter 387 and some translation says bankai while some say release. Perhaps someone can take a look at the raw release and translate it correctly for us. Here's a link to the raw: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1641/bleach387page003.jpg

Also, we were debating whether Shunsui's release when he fought Stark was his Shikai or Bankai.

Personally, I believe that both of their releases so far are only Shikai

Thanks and it would be greatly appreciated if someone can answer this question and give some of their insights.

[regneva]

Hey Hyuna-, I think they are both bankai.

[Jackk]

We have not seen Shinji's nor Shunsui's Bankai yet.

They have only used Shikai so far.

The manga page that had Bankai in it, for Shinji's, was not right.

Plus it's obvious that was shikia, no "BANKAI!" screaming or verbal statement was said by Shinji etc.

Shunsui's is even more obvious... it's definitely his shikai. Again, he never said "BANKAI!." Additionally, Shunsui's bankai was hinted by Ukitake to being something that Shunsui shouldn't do where others could see, or something along those lines.

Shunsui never used his Bankai against stark, in fact, Stark kept asking Shunsui to use his Bankai but Shunsui didn't want to at that point. Furthermore, Shunsui had already used some of his "games" by that point. His "color game" ,near the end, was not his bankai, it was just another shikai game/technique from his zanpakutou. Those were just the powers of his Zanpakutou in shikia: to make children's games real.

In short: No, we have not seen Shinji's nor Shunsui's Bankai yet.

[Hyuna-]

That's basically my argument but here's something that my friend picked out:

The Japanese characters for Bankai are 卍解. And in the raw scan you can see the 卍 character. Was bankai being mentioned?

Edit: A better RAW would be great, if anyone has.

[Jackk]

This has been discussed before.

Kubo didn't even write that line. It is an editorial error.

Plus the fact that Shinji says the commands that a shinigami normally uses when releasing a shikai:

Shinji say: "Collapse, Sakanade"

http://www.mangareader.net/94-41609-6/bleach/chapter-385.html
http://www.mangareader.net/94-41609-7/bleach/chapter-385.html

If that was Bankai, shinji would have most likely said: "Bankai!" ,followed by the name of his Bankai.

Just like Kensei did here:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-35268-3/bleach/chapter-377.html
http://www.mangareader.net/94-35268-4/bleach/chapter-377.html

Shinji never referred to sakanade as a "bankai" either. It is very obviously a shikai. And like I said, those Japanese characters that you found in the raw were just editorial errors. That was not Shinji's bankai, and what Shunsui used was most definitely his shikai as well.

[Lemonadez]

It take 2000 hours training inside the dimension = 1 hour in real world..
http://www.mangareader.net/94-53821-6/bleach/chapter-408.html

Isshin said his going to train Ichigo for 3 months Inside the dimension.
http://www.mangareader.net/94-53821-7/bleach/chapter-408.html

his body became tall and his hair Grow for 3 months of training in dimension (1 hour in real world).

Am i right? Or probably he train more than years inside the dimension.

I mean you cant surpass someone whos knowledge 100 years+ with just 3 months knowledge...

[Jackk]

Ichigo trained in his inner world for about 3 months.

The increase in his power shouldn't come as a surprise really...

Ichigo did not do a simple 3 month training. Ichigo's hollow and tensa zangetsu fused/became one, and then Ichigo had to finally master that power. By mastering that power is how he become so powerful in 3months... not to mention that Ichigo's growth rate is like no other in bleach.

And this should probably go in the Bleach hangout thread.

[kkck]

The way I see it, ichigo could never really hope to catch up to aizen in terms of abilities such as kido in such a short time however what we are considering here is different from that. Ichigo has always had incredible amounts of reiatsu and he has been special from the moment he was born. Above that, each shinigami is different, mastering a zampakuto for one shinigami should be completely different to another. Add in the fact that ichigo has an accelerated growth rate. Basically, ichigo didn't have to bother increasing his reiatsu like petty normal shinigami he simply had to focus on learning how to use his innate zampakuto abilties which no other shinigami has and no one can really teach him. Ishin has the same techniques however it would seem even he could not properly teach him, only zangetsu could.

[Eprst]

Have they showed any of the Vasto Lordes? No right... but i wonder why Aizen didnt explore Hueco Mundo more - to find this kind of power? How do you think?

[CBlitz]

I think it was pretty clear that the top 4 Espada were VLs....Hitsugaya was just exaggerating to an insane degree when he said that a handful of VLs were enough to take out all of SS.

[Random101]

Ten actually. And I'd blame Kubo's absolutely horrid writing choices for the wildly different results more than anything else. He was trying to build up hype and do to extremely poor delivery failed to live up to the Winter War promises on virtually every level.

[Hystzen]

How to spirits get drunk..or how come we only get shinigami from japan why not british..kubo is racist :p ..joke.

but how do spirits bleed n get drunk :s

[Eprst]

I wonder when Bleach characters use kido - they say numbers like Kido number 99. SO is there really 100 types of kido? i thought kido was just atack with your reatsu where it can hurt or seize your opponent...

[Hystzen]

What form are the vizards ?

in TBPT they were spirits
when introduced first time with Shinji he was visabile to humans

are they in spirit form or human bodys or gigais....

have i missed it been explained somewhere?

[kkck]

In TBPA urahara made gigais for the vizards. I assume they are still using them when convenient.

[Hystzen]

In TBPA urahara made gigais for the vizards. I assume they are still using them when convenient.

ahh member now..i thort that was just to help control there hollow until they learn to hold it or when urahara found way to contain it for them ahhh well cheers been bugging me after watching latest episodes :amuse

[MSofAofCOCA]

Big question that i still can't figure out:
Is Gin dead or not?!

[Hystzen]

Big question that i still can't figure out:
Is Gin dead or not?!

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64680 :)

[Aikidoka]

I wonder when Bleach characters use kido - they say numbers like Kido number 99. SO is there really 100 types of kido? i thought kido was just atack with your reatsu where it can hurt or seize your opponent...
You're half-right. There are actually ~198 Kido, categorized into two types: Hadou (roughly "Way of Destruction"), and Bakudou (roughly "Way of Binding"). Hadou are the attack-type Kidou, the blasts you see Rukia or Byakuya doing. Bakudou are for everything else, such as 'binding' the opponent (Rukia's Six Rods Prison she used against Aaroniero), or for other purposes, such as Tenteikuura that Isane and Tousen used to communicate with others.

These two types are then further categorized into 99 spells each (ie. 198 total), with the higher number usually meaning greater strength. For example, Six Rods Prison is Bakudou #66, and Tenteikuura is Bakudou #77.

There's actually a third type, the Healing Kidou, but they haven't been named or given numbers so it's sort of a generic type for now.

Hope that answers your question. =]

[xXan]

There are a few things i don't get.
1-How do spirits bleed ?
2-How do spirits eat and why ? Is that spirit food or something(its not matter right ?) I know that they need it because they use there reiatsu or something but realy makes no sense ... Are there spirit cows floating around there to make cow burgers or something ?
3-Do Spirits age and die or whatever ? I remember that guy that was aging things but aside from that ?
4-Spirits having organs ... What the hell ?
5-Humans die, they become spirits, there spirits die and then its reincarnation all over again is that right ? What happend to Quincy killing them, can't they just reincarnate eventualy and everything be ok (the balance thing) ?
6-Can spirits have kids ?
7-Who created the shinigami ?
8-In that shinigami world, is everything made out of spirit particles or whatever ??

Yeah i know lots of questions ... Anybody has some answers :P ?
Now i love bleach but i find some of the stuff a little nuts :P

[Aikidoka]

I don't know some of the answers but I'll do my best to answer them.

There are a few things i don't get.
1-How do spirits bleed ?
Aesthetic choice as far as I can tell. No canon explanation has been given for that.
2-How do spirits eat and why ? Is that spirit food or something(its not matter right ?) I know that they need it because they use there reiatsu or something but realy makes no sense ... Are there spirit cows floating around there to make cow burgers or something ?
Same as (1), though it was mentioned that spirits experiencing hunger was a sign of their ability to use reiatsu, ie. potential to become Shinigami. Normal spirits can't feel hungry, ie. they can't become Shinigami.
3-Do Spirits age and die or whatever ? I remember that guy that was aging things but aside from that ?
Spirits can age and die. The aging process just seems to be really slow.
4-Spirits having organs ... What the hell ?
Same as (1).
5-Humans die, they become spirits, there spirits die and then its reincarnation all over again is that right ? What happend to Quincy killing them, can't they just reincarnate eventualy and everything be ok (the balance thing) ?
No idea...the Quincy only killed the Hollows though, so maybe it's just Hollows can't be reincarnated? Without being slain by a Zanpakuto at least.
6-Can spirits have kids ?
Yes. Byakuya and the other Noble Houses are examples of spirits having kids and establishing lineages.
7-Who created the shinigami ?
As an organization? No idea. We do know Yamamoto was the one that created the Academy though.
8-In that shinigami world, is everything made out of spirit particles or whatever ??
Yes.

Yeah i know lots of questions ... Anybody has some answers :P ?
Now i love bleach but i find some of the stuff a little nuts :P

[Waking_Dreamer]

Okay how about this one not so much what happens in the manga but how the chapter titles are named...

What do the little numbers in the Chapter Titles for the side stories mean?

Ch.168.5: -12.5 Blooming Under a Cold Moon
Ch.130.5: -17 Prelude For The Straying Stars
Ch.107.5: 0.8 Wonderful Error

[Exodi]

Okay how about this one not so much what happens in the manga but how the chapter titles are named...

What do the little numbers in the Chapter Titles for the side stories mean?

Ch.168.5: -12.5 Blooming Under a Cold Moon
Ch.130.5: -17 Prelude For The Straying Stars
Ch.107.5: 0.8 Wonderful Error

The amount of years before the main storyline?
The Turn Back the Pendulum chapters are numbered the same way.

[kkck]

There are a few things i don't get.
1-How do spirits bleed ?
2-How do spirits eat and why ? Is that spirit food or something(its not matter right ?) I know that they need it because they use there reiatsu or something but realy makes no sense ... Are there spirit cows floating around there to make cow burgers or something ?
3-Do Spirits age and die or whatever ? I remember that guy that was aging things but aside from that ?
4-Spirits having organs ... What the hell ?
5-Humans die, they become spirits, there spirits die and then its reincarnation all over again is that right ? What happend to Quincy killing them, can't they just reincarnate eventualy and everything be ok (the balance thing) ?
6-Can spirits have kids ?
7-Who created the shinigami ?
8-In that shinigami world, is everything made out of spirit particles or whatever ??

Yeah i know lots of questions ... Anybody has some answers :P ?
Now i love bleach but i find some of the stuff a little nuts :P

The manga has actually shown a distinction between spirits with no reiatsu and spirits with reiatsu. Spirits with no reiatsu are just regular human spirits. They do not grow, age or eat. Spirits with reiatsu are esentially shinigami and eat and age and seem capable of even having kids (seeing as nobles are born in SS). This hasn't actually be stated in the manga but it has been implied (gin for instance mentioned that if matsumoto was hungry she must have reiatsu). Don't think of the spirits of this manga as you would regular ones lol, they are not the same.

I don't think the whole reincarnation thing works the way you suggest. I don't think reincarnation would make someone's death irrelevant. I guess in the long run each life have does become a little less special.

[bleach fan 101]

I have recently noticed a couple of patterns and I want to see what patterns you can see and what you think they mean.

I've seen that when we first see ichigo when he escapes shattered shaft that the kido bandage is almost identical to isshin's captain robes (and their sealed zans are identical).

[Richo]

I have recently noticed a couple of patterns and I want to see what patterns you can see and what you think they mean.

I've seen that when we first see ichigo when he escapes shattered shaft that the kido bandage is almost identical to isshin's captain robes (and their sealed zans are identical).`

The zanpaktou being nearly identical of Isshin and Ichigo has been confirmed by Isshin, however he doesnt explain why this is so. Isshin zanpaktou named Engetsu (Scathing moon) and Ichigo Zangetsu (slaying moon).

[lawlett-kun]

is it safe to say that Orihime's power is also a fullbring?

[g0dzax]

That remains to be seen.Ryuken seemed to confirm this fact,but it still is a mystery.Check out this thread :) : http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2293124#post2293124

[lawlett-kun]

That remains to be seen.Ryuken seemed to confirm this fact,but it still is a mystery.Check out this thread :) : http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2293124#post2293124

oh i see.So basically at one time when aizen said that actually hoguyku gave them that power is all a blah-blah?

[g0dzax]

Well,what Aizen said wasn't blah-blah lol.The hogyoku simply awakened their powers.Both Chad and Orihime had their powers,only that they were dormant.So yeah,the hogyoku awakened their powers(it didn't give them powers).So,Orihime is either a special case of fullbring or she's smth else(something unnamed).Since fullbring powers come from contact with hollow,and since Orihime doesn't have the slightest resemblance of hollow powers,I believe that she isn't a fullbringer.

[Revolation]

i still am wondering why they could feel aizen's spiritual pressure while the shinigami couldn't.
meanwhile they including aizen couldn't feel ichigo's pressure because he was on a "higher paradigm" while aizen thought he put all his pressure in his body.
also is yammi dead? i know grimjow and nel and her friends are still alive but haven't been shown
also, earlier this arc yuzu showed her test or something to ichigo and ichigo said it was great and then left, and yuzu got upset. so...what did she get mad about. i still don't know.

[vizardichigo]

Most likely because he lowered his reiatsu down ti a level where they could feel it. Remember what Aizen said, only if he lowered his level could humans and shinigami feel his reiatsu so i guess that's the reason.

[Tsukisama]

I agree with vizardichigo about the reiatsu sensing.

Concerning the other questions, according to an interview mentioned in the Grimmjow Discussion thread, GJ is dead. If you want to discuss Yammy's status further, this would be a good thread: Is Yammi still alive? (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63928)

About Yuzu, I don't think it was anything special besides her just wanting more of Ichigo's attention. She has always loved her brother very much, and even before the time elapse, Yuzu would complain about Ichigo not being around enough. So, it is in character that she still wants Ichigo's attention.

[g0dzax]

I was rereading the manga,and something occured to me: in chapter 420 after Tensa pierced Ichigo,he says that the thing he wanted to protect the most was Ichigo himself.Exactly when saying that,the water around them started to disappear,evaporating.It is crystal clear that the water evaporates.However,when watching the anime,in ??? episode(can't remember the number now),after Tensa piercing Ichigo and telling him that he's the thing he wanted to protect,the water around them did not disappear,though it should have been that way.The evaporation of the water hold deep meaning,since that water was basically "the despair"of Ichigo.The anime scrwed this.

[thornofcarrion]

Anime do sometimes tend to deviate from manga, even if it is following the manga storyline. I am not sure what happened, how can they ignore such an important detail.

[Banedor]

Hello,

I always had this nagging thought ever since I saw Ichigo's weapon which turns out to look like a swastika in various panels when drawn. Being from America and a fan of Naruto I'm sure those who are as well are familiar with how they portrayed Neji's curse mark which was a swastika and edited to fit the American media rules. So my question which I'm not looking for an answer but matter of other opinions is that does anyone else wonder how Bleach will do in America for both the anime and printed volumes of this new swastika weapon? I personally don't care if its a swastika because I know the image of the Nazi's using was simply because of what the Swastika meant in other cultures and simply used it for their own cause and essentially redefined the meaning of it despite it having quite a few.

Opinions?

[Takahashi]

Considering Ichigo's Bankai sword also had the same shape, I don't think things will really change. Dangai Ichigo had a bigger more noticeable one, but I'd imagine it won't be like Neji's curse mark.

They'd have to do some pretty big changes to multiple scenes, rather than one still shot of a guy's forehead :P And they're too lazy for that.

[Exodi]

I agree with Takahashi.

Furthermore, Bleach airs on a network (Cartoon Network's Adult Swim) that is geared towards a more mature (though still young, like....my age) audience, whereas Naruto (nowadays) airs on Disney. And Disney is.....well, you know.

[kkck]

If they did not edit tensa zangetsu then they probably will not edit the fullbring. It's going to be around for at least 2 episodes so it really would not be such a big deal.

[Revolation]

hmm. so that just leaves syazel's closet

[g0dzax]

Maybe Kubo's saving Szayel's closet for a flashback when the Shinigami appear again.

[Revolation]

http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-182/%5BM7%5DBleach-ch182-15.jpg.php

why was ishida suspicious of the badge? never got that?

[thornofcarrion]

Few months back when Fullbring arc started, I wanted to create a thread for the badge. Unfortunately, I do not have the exact answer to your question. May be Ishida felt something strange about it, be the design or its working.

[Ryuma00]

I know that this is totally oftopic but could someone post here link for KUBOs works :
Bad Shield United
Ultra Unholy Hearted Machine

english versions, because I only have jap. and a can't read jap.

Thanks a lot

[Revolation]

I know that this is totally oftopic but could someone post here link for KUBOs works :
Bad Shield United
Ultra Unholy Hearted Machine

english versions, because I only have jap. and a can't read jap.

Thanks a lot

ah, i didn't know bad shield was a actual work by kubo.

[Ryuma00]

ah, i didn't know bad shield was a actual work by kubo.

Yeah , it was written by Kubo in 1997 and was published as a bonus in Volume 4 Zombie powder.
And I made a mistake, I already have Bad Shield United in eng.

I'm looking for :
Ultra Unholy Hearted Machine - bonus in Volume 2 Zombie powder
Rune Master Urara - bonus in Volume 3 Zombie powder

[Airget]

http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-182/%5BM7%5DBleach-ch182-15.jpg.php

why was ishida suspicious of the badge? never got that?

http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-182/%5BM7%5DBleach-ch182-14.jpg.php

The page before that, if what Ukitake said is true could be pretty interesting in terms of the latest arc. Ichigo did say that his badge lost it's power so it was visible to others, however when he regained part of his reaitsu he was able to hear communication through his badge. It's possible that the badge itself acts like a GPS system to keep a check on the substitutes as well as allowing them quick access to using their shinigami powers. it's kinda a double edged sword if you plan on using your shinigami powers for unjust reasons.

I think Ishida may have been a little cautious of it cause of the skull on it, however I think Rukia's had the same design so he may have just been overworried about. Though here's a theory, perhaps at one time shinigami and quincy were actually allies and they gave them the badges as a means of showing peace between the two, however the true use of the badges was to be able to locate them so they could eliminate them with ease. Since the badge does seem to have communication abilities I think they may have tricked the Quincy to keeping contact through the badge.

If a quincy's power is in their human body then it is possible to say that in spirit form they would be powerless. It's quite possible that this shinigami badge can force anyone out of their body even if they don't have shinigami powers, actually it's quite possible it's the same device as Rukia's glove and Urahara's cane. It's very possible the badge was used as a means to make the quincy's powerless then cut the chain to their body so they could eliminate them with ease.

--------

On a somewhat related note though, I do recall Ginjo seemed a tad edgy as Ichigo put the badge to his ear which may mean that he is aware that the badge can be used as a communication device. so if Ginjo was truly evil one would think that the shinigami would have already dealt with him since he's had to of had this badge on him for quite some time now. It would seem rather reckless to have a person hold onto a badge if they aren't worthy of said badge.

I still feel like the reason he felt edgy was cause he was afraid that his cover might be blown. His reaction felt more like one that was aware that you can hear communication through the badge. I'm also pretty sure that if a substitute shinigami did die on duty they would act swift in retrieving the badge since if it was in the hands of a person with powers they would be able to push people out of their souls and it would prolly allow hollows an easier means of eating souls.

[N0R7H]

Sorry, but I don't know where post this.

The Titekubo's oneshots (Ultra Unholy Hearted Machine, Kokumashi Urara and Bad Shield United) scanlated or are scripts to translate them? I really want to read them, but if they aren't translated into english, maybe y could translate them (very slowly, obviously).

[Revolation]

So when yammy shot urahara with the fist bala blast. Was that urahara's only time getting hit or was he using the portable gigai then too?

i know none of the bala storm hit him, but what about the first bala? that confused me

[Ryuma00]

Sorry, but I don't know where post this.

The Titekubo's oneshots (Ultra Unholy Hearted Machine, Kokumashi Urara and Bad Shield United) scanlated or are scripts to translate them? I really want to read them, but if they aren't translated into english, maybe y could translate them (very slowly, obviously).

If you read my posts above you'll see that I am looking for them, I only have Bad Shield United, so I uploaded it on megaupload :

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T9XYZSAY

[N0R7H]

If you read my posts above you'll see that I am looking for them, I only have Bad Shield United, so I uploaded it on megaupload :

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T9XYZSAY
Thanks, I liked it very much, it's very interesting

Edit: I have both in japasese, so if someone knows japanese and want to translate them, send me a PM and I send it to him/her ^^

[shane1594]

Now I know that what I'm about to ask has absolutley no relation the either the past chapter, or the upcoming one, but can someone please tell me what 'plotkai' means?

[Miyagi]

Now I know that what I'm about to ask has absolutley no relation the either the past chapter, or the upcoming one, but can someone please tell me what 'plotkai' means?

There's no clear-cut definiton but if plot works in favor of someone beyond suspension of disbelief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief), it's called "plotkai" in Bleach, a play on the word "bankai". For example the ice-clone incident of Hitsugaya or Momo replacement incident of Aizen are considered by many to be examples of "plotkai".

[Revolation]

What is the chapter and or episode where rukia explain to ichigo that hollows reside in 'a world between soul society and the living world' with her little drawings, which we later learn ends up being hueco mundo?

[Darjaille]

Chapter 8 (http://www.mangareader.net/94-462-10/bleach/chapter-8.html)

Is this it?

[Revolation]

Chapter 8 (http://www.mangareader.net/94-462-10/bleach/chapter-8.html)

Is this it?

Ah, yes thats great. Thanks very much. I was just trying to put it all together that hueco mundo was in between the living world and soul society. just like the dangai is

I was wondering why garganta's couldn't be made from hueco mundo to SS seeing as they can be made to the living world.

it's strange because yoruichi says the flowing current in the dangai is to keep intruders and hollows out which made me think why can't they just use garganta unless dangai is the only way? yet they don't need the dangai to go to the human world.

we have seen some hollows in soul society(the one that ate kaien for example), etc, but then i realized aizen experimented on it. It's not much of a stretch that it came from hueco mundo though seeing as aizen was recruiting espada in hueco mundo back when he was still a captain.

and we know they used to have that execution pit filled with hollows.

Basically I'm trying to understand all the portals in bleach and their rules:
-senkaimon w/ hellbutterfly is a straight bright passage to the opening of the doors on the other side as shown in episode 138-139 where rukia runs to the living world to help out in the espada fights.
-senkaimon w/o hellbutterfly kicks you into the dangai. senkaimon can't go to hueco mundo? garganta mandatory?
-garganta to and from hueco mundo, can also open up a garganta into the dangai like Ulq did
-but yet, cannot use dangai to go to hueco mundo even though ulq went from hueco mundo, to the dangai though a garganta. strange seeing as they are in the same area between SS and living world.
etc