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Tsukisama
May 01, 2008, 09:40 AM
We know about the specialization of the 2nd (related to Covert Ops), 4th (healing, supply, support), 9th (newspaper/magazine :blink), 11th (melee), and 12th (R&D).

We have seen through Urahara (and perhaps also Kensei as I don't see him being very artistic and running a magazine) that the squad can be changed to fit whatever mold the captain wants, but do you think that there are some divisions of Gotei 13 that have always been specialized or that, once a division has been specialized, there would be some sort of rules in place to keep it with that specialization?

Now that the 12th squad has been transformed into scientifically oriented squad, it has probably been a huge asset to SS. I doubt that SS would want to lose this new asset, but if they needed to replace the 12th division captain for some reason and could not find a researcher shinigami to fill the position, would they allow that person to take over and do whatever they please?

Use this thread to discuss your thoughts on whether you think Gotei 13 divisions have specialties and, if so, to what extent they are specialized.

Umbra Wolf
May 01, 2008, 12:33 PM
First of all: I understand that the 9th division was some sort of police and / or investigation unit because this division was told to clarify the reason for the recent missings of people.
Also it would explain why Toussen was the captain of this division: If the one who should find out all of the bad deeds is actually one of the bad guys chances of being convicted are much lower than normally.

So my overall understanding: I guess there are some divisions with fixed tasks. You always need healing, you always need an assassination squad etc. But I guess the 12th division was without a special task until Urahara took over. They were some kind of brawlers and it would threaten the balance of powers if they'd gain another main task. Don't forget not everyone in 12th division must also be part of the R&D these are separate institutions.

I would guess there must be at least a Kidou corps using all kinds of high level kidou don't know which one that could be. My guess would be Byakuya's squad cause he uses kidou the most time and use some high level spells compared to all the other Gotei 13 members (expect Aizen but that's a different story).

Valen123456
May 01, 2008, 02:27 PM
I suspect that the functions and specialisations of the Gotei 13 have changed over time and i think a big part of it maybe due to the captain of the time

I have no evidence to really support this but my own opinion is that when they where original founded the 13 squads didnt have a great deal of distinction between them ... however then one captain or another during there time amoung them began to think that certain elements where lacking or needed a larger group of specialists grouped together.

This is pretty much how the 12th division evolved into its current R&D focus through Uraharas efforts shortly after he was premoted ... during Hikifunes time it was possibly just an ordinary squad.

The 11th Squad probably evolved by itself into the combat focus and brawlers that we all know and love ... the Kenpachi becoming its captain was probably just a tradition that devoloped rather than being a key principle in its founding.

Unohana probably slowly developed the 4th squad into the medical division since it possibly wasnt around at its founding and her own abilities probably encouraged this.

The 9th squad where probably some kind of police-like force during Kensei's time but changed after his disappearance and Tousen evently taking over.

The 2nd squad and the special forces seem to be two seperate organisations but they both fall under the leadership of the shihouin family leader ... and currently that is biased towards the 2nd division although in the past its probably been held by others.

Kidou corps are a seperate organisation and dont appear to be lead by any specific captains.

I doubt that many other divisions have particular functions in the same way as the 4th,11th and 12th do ... sure some might be assigned to certain duties, gaurding a specific region or responding to certain types of events but i dont think we are going to meet any more truely specialised squads.

Tsukisama
May 01, 2008, 05:54 PM
I suspect that the functions and specialisations of the Gotei 13 have changed over time and i think a big part of it maybe due to the captain of the time

I have no evidence to really support this but my own opinion is that when they where original founded the 13 squads didnt have a great deal of distinction between them ... however then one captain or another during there time amoung them began to think that certain elements where lacking or needed a larger group of specialists grouped together.

This is pretty much how the 12th division evolved into its current R&D focus through Uraharas efforts shortly after he was premoted ... during Hikifunes time it was possibly just an ordinary squad.

The 11th Squad probably evolved by itself into the combat focus and brawlers that we all know and love ... the Kenpachi becoming its captain was probably just a tradition that devoloped rather than being a key principle in its founding.

Unohana probably slowly developed the 4th squad into the medical division since it possibly wasnt around at its founding and her own abilities probably encouraged this.

The 9th squad where probably some kind of police-like force during Kensei's time but changed after his disappearance and Tousen evently taking over.

The 2nd squad and the special forces seem to be two seperate organisations but they both fall under the leadership of the shihouin family leader ... and currently that is biased towards the 2nd division although in the past its probably been held by others.

Kidou corps are a seperate organisation and dont appear to be lead by any specific captains.

I doubt that many other divisions have particular functions in the same way as the 4th,11th and 12th do ... sure some might be assigned to certain duties, gaurding a specific region or responding to certain types of events but i dont think we are going to meet any more truely specialised squads.

I agree with you 100%. When Gotei 13 was originally created, it probably was just a large army division tasked with dealing with hollows and keeping the peace of SS. We have seen that the captains have a huge impact in defining the nature of their division, and through the leadership of specific captains (e.g., Urahara, Yoruichi, etc.), the divisions were taken in directions that were not a part of their original design.

For further information, here is what the databook (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/227062.html) says about each of the 13 divisions under the leadership of the current captains (semi-current, since it includes the three traitor captains), giving some indication of the nature of the squads:

1st division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/222040.html)
2nd division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/222236.html)
3rd division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/212477.html)
4th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/216088.html)
5th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/211742.html)
6th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/215970.html)
7th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/218168.html)
8th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/212947.html)
9th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/213260.html)
10th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/212046.html)
11th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/215126.html)
12th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/225490.html)
13th division (http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/214043.html)


It would seem that each captain brings their own unique style to their division, but I think that only the 2nd, 4th, 9th, 11th, and 12th divisions have any sort of specialization (unless it is something minor like the 9th division's literary duties, but even small things like that probably would have come up in omake or the databook by now).

DCIAO
May 01, 2008, 07:06 PM
Considering what we've seen of Kensei's gang and comparing it to Tousen's personality, the 9th division might be some kind of task force, like a SWAT team or SoulSociety's "Guardian Angels" or something.

I hate to compare Bleach with Naruto, but somehow the Kuchiki family makes me think of the Uchiha clan. It may just be from Byakuya's personality, but with the way he and Renji tracked down Rukia when she was MIA, I could see the 6th squad being a police force traditionally run by the Kuchiki family.

Tsukisama
May 01, 2008, 09:25 PM
I don't think that 9th division is some sort of special task force or investigative unit. Yes, the 9th division was sent out to investigate in the last chapter, but that does not mean that they are the ones most suited towards this type of thing. I think that they were chosen more to showcase Mashiro and have Kensei use his shikai, since he is the only vizard whose shikai we had somewhat seen before.

The last chapter actually showcased the 9th division's artistic side. Those outfits that Kensei's group was wearing were very creative IMO, and the fact that they would wear something so uncharacteristic of a usual Gotei 13 shinigami outfit is fitting for the characteristically artistic division.

Starky-08
February 25, 2009, 12:09 PM
5th Squad is also the Messenger Squad and tend to have great skill in Kidou, e.g Aizen and Momo.

Tsukisama
February 25, 2009, 05:37 PM
5th Squad is also the Messenger Squad and tend to have great skill in Kidou, e.g Aizen and Momo.

I was wondering if you had a source for this statement. I can't seem to find a source anywhere backing this up either in the manga or data book translations. (I know that this is listed on Bleach Wikia and a few other sites, but I would prefer to see a contextual source.

Gecko Moria
March 03, 2009, 02:30 PM
We know about the specialization of the 2nd (related to Covert Ops), 4th (healing, supply, support), 9th (newspaper/magazine :blink), 11th (melee), and 12th (R&D).

We have seen through Urahara (and perhaps also Kensei as I don't see him being very artistic and running a magazine) that the squad can be changed to fit whatever mold the captain wants, but do you think that there are some divisions of Gotei 13 that have always been specialized or that, once a division has been specialized, there would be some sort of rules in place to keep it with that specialization?

Now that the 12th squad has been transformed into scientifically oriented squad, it has probably been a huge asset to SS. I doubt that SS would want to lose this new asset, but if they needed to replace the 12th division captain for some reason and could not find a researcher shinigami to fill the position, would they allow that person to take over and do whatever they please?


I believe it has already been mentioned that organizations like the Covert Ops and the R&D Department are separate from the 13 Divisions, its just that they are lead by the same person.

Tsukisama
March 03, 2009, 05:45 PM
I believe it has already been mentioned that organizations like the Covert Ops and the R&D Department are separate from the 13 Divisions, its just that they are lead by the same person.

That is why I say in my post "related to Covert Ops." Although I did not say it explicitly, the Shinigami Technological Research Institute is also separate from the 12th division but is related to the 12th division, giving it a specialization. If that was unclear to you, I apologize.