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Gold Knight
April 10, 2006, 06:53 PM
This is one of these times that my impressions of the chapter changed drastically when I read the scanlation as opposed to the RAW and a translation... sometimes it really is better to wait a bit and read the scanlation. Initially, I thought the chapter wasn't going to offer enough information for me to submit ten comments, but I could've made fifteen comments! Kudos go to Chikusho for doing an excellent job on their quick scanlation.

Hope you enjoy my comments on Naruto chapter 302 and feel free to comment as you wish :)


* * * Gold Knight's 10 Comments on Naruto Chapter 302: Infiltration * * *

1. Sexy Sai? - Seems like this was all I've been hearing about from people last weekend - how good-looking Sai was in the cover! I wonder sometimes if it's because he wasn't showing his face, since I believe Kishimoto tried very hard to make his face one that you could never quite trust (and therefore a bit distasteful). But here, he's looking down, seemingly without a care in the world. A cool customer, to be sure. And of course, the Chōjū Giga behind him made for a pretty fun design to look at. I wonder if there's something to its similarity to the line art of Sasuke's Sharingan illusion that we saw last chapter...

Incidentally, this makes three covers in a row that Kishimoto has done that had a fresh feel to it, as opposed to many of his covers in Part 2. (Yes, I count the Iruka one too, because it wasn't just him standing or sitting around.)

I'm glad he seems to be getting his creativity back. And judging by my conversations with several people this past weekend, I think many colorists are, too!

2. Bone-crunching time! Heh, that was the first thing that came to mind when Naruto thought while looking at Orochimaru's hideout, "I've found you... at last."

Remember, the last time Naruto spoke to his long-lost teammate, he was quite fierce in his determination to bring Sasuke back to Konohagakure! This time, will he take a different approach?

Now that I think about it, it's not very usual that I see a main character of a manga so concerned about somebody's welfare that they would train as long as two years to bring him or her back. And it's another guy, at that. I mean, yes, Ichigo strove at all costs to save Rukia's life in Bleach, and Luffy in One Piece would often go to extreme lengths to save one of his crew-mates from danger (Nami, and now Robin, for example). But in both cases, it was usually only a matter of weeks before they accomplished their missions.

Naruto trained for TWO years to try to get Sasuke back from Orochimaru. Thinking about that a bit more, I don't blame Naruto so much for going absolutely berserk when Orochimaru taunted him at the bridge. It's been a long time for him.

I hope Naruto can manage to stay calm this time when he meets up with Sasuke. I have a feeling Naruto is going to surprise us a little bit when that finally happens.

3. Into the Snake's Maw. I suppose it would be inconvenient to live with, but I was almost expecting to see a bunch of snakes slithering around when we finally got a good look inside Orochimaru's hideout. Oh well. As Kabuto and Sai were walking through the hallways, though, due to the floor and wall patterns, I couldn't help but be reminded of Jiraiya's Kuchiyose: Gamaguchi Shibari when Itachi and Kisame found themselves nearly trapped in a giant fire-breathing toad's esophagus. Kabuto and Sai looked like they were walking through a giant snake's stomach. Let's hope for Naruto's sake that Orochimaru doesn't have a similar jutsu! Oh well, I suppose he's been through it before...

I couldn't help but wonder if Sai ever felt nervous about being alone with a creepy guy like Kabuto. I probably would've had my guard up. Sai seemed to take it pretty well, though - I suppose it's not the first time he's been with shady characters.

4. O Rly Naruto? I just want to say that it was somewhat amusing that Naruto offered to use his chakra to create a Rasengan to shatter the rock to Orochimaru's hideout... when he had right at his side Sakura, who probably could've been able to take care of it with her pinkie! Not to mention that both would definitely have brought Orochimaru's entire guard on them (if any). Lucky they had Yamato around to take care of things... once again.

Again, Yamato impresses us here - breaking through a huge mass of rock without making a sound is no mean feat.

5. The Secret Scroll and Book I don't have much to comment here except to say, oh boy, Sai has another mysterious book? He should be a librarian.

Wonder what he was so startled at when he was reading a book that he summoned out of a scroll he was apparently carrying around with him. Wouldn't he have known what it was about already? Danzou might have told him to wait until he had come in contact with Orochimaru in order to read some further orders...

6. Whoops. Kabuto's mistake in leaving the envelope containing all the ANBU's secrets on Sai's bed was a good thing in my opinion. Kishimoto needs to remember to show that these guys are still human - especially after we've been exposed to all the amazing feats they can do! And actually, Kishimoto does a good job of it too for a lot of his characters. Now he's doing it for Kabuto, somebody that I always considered almost a "perfect" ninja. First he showed us Kabuto's paranoia when he thought Sai was about to attack Orochimaru, then his twisted nature, and now his absent-mindness.

I also can't help but think Kishimoto is saying here that Kabuto is so comfortable being with Orochimaru that he doesn't really care if he makes critical mistakes like that. Kakashi may have been right on the mark when he called Kabuto a "spoiled brat" way back when they fought.

7. Yamato Keyfingers at your service! Not to much to say here except that scene totally owned. I also can't help but wonder if Yamato has a shell of wood surrounding his body, much like Gaara does with his sand, since obviously his finger is flesh and blood... right? So how did he get a wood key to come out of it? Could it be possible that some of his body is artifical and is in reality wood (shades of Chiyo-baasama).

I'm also more convinced than ever that Kakashi's ANBU team must have totally kicked butt. I also can't help but wonder if Rin (from Kakashi Gaiden) used to be with Yamato and Kakashi. I'm starting to be convinced that we may be headed for a Yamato Gaiden after Part 2.

8. Oh, the Irony. "You! Why did you betray us!?" was what I'd expect Naruto to say to Sasuke after Part 1, and now he's saying it to his own substitute teammate that came with him on a mission to recover that friend.

Interesting contrast we have here between Naruto and Sai. Naruto's well-known for his passionate resolve, and Sai for his complete detachment. Kishimoto pulled it off here pretty well.

Cute that all Sakura had to say was Naruto's name and Naruto shut up. One thing that's for sure, if they end up together, Sakura won't have that much difficulty controlling him (unless he goes Kyuubi, of course.)

9. Return of Sai's Book? That was a little TOO nice of you, Sakura. =/

10. Confession Time! Well, I guess it's confirmed: Danzou's working towards the "Destruction of Konoha" - presumably as we know it. He probably intends to try to expand Konoha's territory with Orochimaru's help. I guess we'll learn more about Sai's mission soon enough.

Pretty characteristic of Sai to take the failure of his mission so well.

RATING: 4 out of 5 Stars. Like I said, when I first read the RAW I thought it wasn't much. Even reading it with the translation with it, I didn't get much of an impression. But reading a scanlation was something else. While I do think the pacing of the storytelling could be a little faster, the suspense is building little by little at a time, and that's not a bad thing. When things start really happening, it'll definitely be fun. And anyway, in a real ninja's world, things probably move slowly like this all the time behind the scenes. It gives us a lot of opportunities to try to understand some characters better and deepen the mysteries of others.

Predictions for Chapter 303: I think Yamato will notice the ANBU envelope and grab it. When Kabuto arrives, they'll all surround him to get some more information. Knowing Kishimoto, we probably won't get to hear Danzou's plan right away, or see Sasuke again either, but that's okay for me. It'll happen eventually.

Tanuki-dono
April 10, 2006, 08:19 PM
1. Sexy Sai?  Haha, maybe the fans are warming up to him after all.  I agree with you about the streak of creativity.  It makes me very happy.  Perhaps that means our Kishimoto is on a roll?

2. Ah.  I like your thoughts here. Honestly, I really hope that Naruto approaches things differently this time.  He's had two years to think over his options, and I'm sure he's dwelled on the situation.  Naruto, I suppose, being a character who never truly had friends growing up, cherishes the bonds he has made.  And since Sasuke is one of his first bonds, it's no wonder he's a bit insane in trying to get him back, especially since Sasuke is in danger, really.

3. The lair reminded me of a dungeon. @.@  Kabuto is creepy, but you're right - Sai is just weird.

4. Yamato keeps proving his awesomeness, which, incidentally, makes me <b>worry about him</b>. T-T Naruto seems to want to bring Sasuke out immediately.  What better way than announcing himself?  *laughs* Silly, Naruto reasoning.

5. Sai, the librarian.  Man, that is a weird mental image.  *Sai with glasses.*

6. Come to think of it, Kabuto has spoiled brat tendencies, doesn't he? *laughs*  I think Kishi does a marvelous job with characterizaton, actually.  The flaws and the mistakes make more more interesting people, don't you think. ^_~

7. I loved that!  The finger thing was the best part! Yamato Gaiden would pwn my soul, you know.  Their ANBU squad must have been amazing. :hearts  I've been wondering more and more about Rin, and you mentioning her makes me want more backstory.

8.  Sai and Naruto are opposties indeed.  And Naruto is whipped by Sakura.  Where is his leash?  

9. Sakura: the suck-up. Or she's simple to nice at heart.

10. "As we know it" is the key here.  He wants to really crank up the war activity, I bet.

Yay for comments! I do loe theses comments of yours.

EDIT: Spelling.

sushi-girl-27
April 10, 2006, 08:42 PM
I actually don't think Danzou is planning to destroy Konoha. I think Sai and him might turn out to be good characters.

Tamerlane
April 10, 2006, 09:39 PM
Yay! I was waiting for you to put this up. It is always fun to read someone elses very honest comments about the chapters in Naruto.

1. Actually I kind of like Sai....he sounds like he has an interesting past. It was cool to see him on the cover.

3. You know I was kind of surprised to see that their hideout as well. I was no sure what I was expecting but it was rather normal-ish (for a hideout). I mean it even has spare bedrooms all set up for guests. XD Also after all that Sai has been thru (contacting Oro and all that) I am sure that being alone with Kabuto is no big deal.

5. I found that book that Sai summoned very interesting. I am sure that is not the last time that we are going to be seeing that. I just wonder what it was? Also...Sai...a librarian? Hahah That was an interesting mental picture.

6. I never really thought about it but yes Kabuto being absent minded like that is a a very refreshing thing to see. You are absolutly right that after all these amazing battles it is nice to see something like this show up. Just showing that the characters are human is one reason I like this manga. Little details like this.

7. That key thing was interesting to say the least. I mean it makes you ask....is there anything that this guy can not do? :s

9. I think that Sakura is just being herself. They already saw what they needed to out of that book, there was no reason to keep it. And if by returning it it showed a level of compassion that it could possibly influence Sai more towards them. I would have done it in a heartbeat as well, as more of tactical decision.

10. I have to say that this was something that we all already guessed, it was more just like a confirmation of that.

Wheee...I am looking forward to the next chapter (as always). Thanks for taking the time to write all this up.

:amuse

*gives a Ki point*

=D

gerop
April 11, 2006, 05:57 PM
Hi,

Just want to say -
"Love your Ten Comments post !"

Thanks

destinator
April 11, 2006, 06:12 PM
Same for me, love to read your comments because they help me to see things in a different way xD

ShgnLW
April 11, 2006, 06:12 PM
Damn Gold Knight are you a fuckin' genius are something?

Again, a wonderful preview of the chapter. w00t!! Keep up the good work!

Strangehat
April 11, 2006, 10:43 PM
Hey Strangehat, welcome to MH XD

"'...I'll kill the idea of you. e.e' " Haha... I like that. e.e

Your comments are pretty cool, you should look into doing your own commentary too ^^


Thanks bunches. :D But I'm probably too slow to run commentary work. X) X) I might yet still! If a truly elite chapter comes by that sets a fire in my brain and electrifies my fingers, like Riverdance. C_C d

Gold Knight
April 12, 2006, 02:58 PM
Riverdance? Never heard of it? =O

@ Kadoman: Sorry for taking a while to response to your post, but sounds like we have pretty much similar feelings about what's happening :)

Gold Knight
April 12, 2006, 03:08 PM
Glad you guys are enjoying the comments ^^



I actually don't think Danzou is planning to destroy Konoha. I think Sai and him might turn out to be good characters.


I doubt that Danzou will be either a good or bad guy, considering Tsunade distrusts him to the point where she'd suspect him of trying to supplant her. It would be a nice twist if he ended up helping Naruto's team, but he probably ever won't be on Tsunade's side. When he spoke to Tsunade while Sakura was in the room, it was obvious he was holding a deadly grudge of some sort.

As for Sai, time will tell I suppose.

kadoman
April 12, 2006, 04:35 PM
Whehey! I look forward to your comments GK! Always entertaining.

1. Sexy Sai? Is detachment sexy? I guess so. :smile-big In any case, that was one helluva a cover. Remember when Sai was first introduced and we spent a bit of time in his 'room' as it were, and we got a sneak peak at his living quarters, and all his drawing paraphenalia and what not...well, I liked that at the time because it was actually quite a personal touch (I can't think of another character, besides Naurto, who Kishi has given that treatment). The cover reminded me of that. Had that personal, intimate quality. Still hate his stupid top.

2.
I suppose it would be inconvenient to live with, but I was almost expecting to see a bunch of snakes slithering around when we finally got a good look inside Orochimaru's hideout. Quoted for sheer bloody awesomeness. This is the statement of the month.

3.
I couldn't help but wonder if Sai ever felt nervous about being alone with a creepy guy like Kabuto. I probably would've had my guard up. He never has his guard down. Back in that same chapter where we got to see his living quarters, that point is clearly made; I would say Kishi stresses it. He just looks as though he's not on guard. But yeah, I would be afraid that Oro at least, was going to come and eat me during the night!!

4. I haven't made up my mind what I think about Naruto's obsession with Sasuke. It really is uncommon, like you say. Part of me thinks Naruto is an idiot and needs a swift kick up the butt. And part of me kinda thinks it's just another example of his stubborness we've come to know and love. I sure hope Kishi makes a point out of it, otherwise, it's quite irritating (or else, Kishi is hoping to continue attracting a yaoi loving female readership). :p

5. I'm not sure what I think about the Kabuto 'blunder'. On the one hand, it looks as though it's a lame plot device. Lame, because it's not in Kabuto's nature to be so careless. It's not like he left behind the mail, or the newspaper. He left behind a document of vital importance. And it seems just a little convenient for Kishi to do that. But on the other hand, it does rasise questions about his state of mind and perhaps, his comfort level with Oro. I still wonder how loyal he is to Oro.

Can't wait for 303!!!

Gold Knight
April 12, 2006, 10:03 PM
1. Sexy Sai? Is detachment sexy? I guess so. :smile-big In any case, that was one helluva a cover. Remember when Sai was first introduced and we spent a bit of time in his 'room' as it were, and we got a sneak peak at his living quarters, and all his drawing paraphenalia and what not...well, I liked that at the time because it was actually quite a personal touch (I can't think of another character, besides Naurto, who Kishi has given that treatment). The cover reminded me of that. Had that personal, intimate quality. Still hate his stupid top.

I do enjoy that too. Remember when we also got a look into Sasuke's room as well, when he had made the decision to leave Konohagakure. He was looking at a picture of Team 7. Kishimoto does need to show us a bit more of that sort of thing for all the characters.


2. Quoted for sheer bloody awesomeness. This is the statement of the month.

Oh yeah? LoL


3. He never has his guard down. Back in that same chapter where we got to see his living quarters, that point is clearly made; I would say Kishi stresses it. He just looks as though he's not on guard. But yeah, I would be afraid that Oro at least, was going to come and eat me during the night!!

I wouldn't worry about him eating me...


4. I haven't made up my mind what I think about Naruto's obsession with Sasuke. It really is uncommon, like you say. Part of me thinks Naruto is an idiot and needs a swift kick up the butt. And part of me kinda thinks it's just another example of his stubborness we've come to know and love. I sure hope Kishi makes a point out of it, otherwise, it's quite irritating (or else, Kishi is hoping to continue attracting a yaoi loving female readership). :p

Oh yeah, the appeal of Naruto for yaoi-loving female readership will probably never go away. Too many fun possible couples for them to ponder on in this series.


5. I'm not sure what I think about the Kabuto 'blunder'. On the one hand, it looks as though it's a lame plot device. Lame, because it's not in Kabuto's nature to be so careless. It's not like he left behind the mail, or the newspaper. He left behind a document of vital importance. And it seems just a little convenient for Kishi to do that. But on the other hand, it does rasise questions about his state of mind and perhaps, his comfort level with Oro. I still wonder how loyal he is to Oro.

That's what I thought about that scene when I initally read the chapter. Plot device. But on reading the scanlation I felt like it was done well enough. Kabuto might have been more nervous of Sai than Sai was of him.


Can't wait for 303!!!


Me either, should be a good one. =)
Thanks for reading!