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Gold Knight
April 28, 2006, 12:03 PM
First of all, I apologize for the tardiness of this week's edition of Ten Comments! It's been a rather busy week for me so I haven't had much of a chance to get on the internet at all. I guess I'd just say that it was a fortunate thing this week was Golden Week, or my streak of posting comments for every chapter would've been broken! *gasp*

But I'll try my best to keep that from happenging again. ;)

Well, here we go, feel free to post your own opinions and enjoy. Many thanks to Shannaro for doing a bang-up job on scanlating this chapter for easier reading!


* * * Gold Knight's 10 Comments on Naruto Chapter 304: The Other Side of Betrayal * * *

1. Woo, Color! - This week Naruto readers get a rare sight, and thankfully it's not some advertisement of a Naruto movie. A good ol' fashioned colored cover relevant to the current chapter at hand!

What did we get this time? A cool, intense-eyed, posing Naruto with a looming, white-faced and preoccupied Sai in the background! It's not as good as the "chained Naruto" double spread we got in 281, but then again this is just a one-pager, I guess. I wonder if Sai is actually that pale though. I don't think so, since Naruto and Sakura would probably have been describing him that way... calling him a ghost and stuff like that. But nevertheless I'd say that Kishimoto's recent trend of cool covers continues nicely with this chapter.

2. And they call Naruto brash? Odd that Kabuto, not knowing the whole situation, still decided to ambush Naruto's team without a contingency plan. Is it a commentary on Kabuto's over-confidence in his own abilities, or the seemingly lack of men Orochimaru has at his hideout?

I've been somewhat puzzled by the fact that we haven't seen a single soul other than Oro, Kabuto and Sasuke at this den, when Orochimaru has been so known for having so many pawns. I can understand why Kishimoto doesn't want to introduce any more characters considering we've got enough new ones to go around right now, but it still feels out of place within the story. Hopefully there's a bit of an explanation forthcoming.

And if it IS just that Kabuto truly felt he could take on Naruto's team with only Sai's help even though he had never worked together with him before... well, it's not been a good day for him, that's all I'll say.

3. That Again! Sorry to say this, but Naruto's clone-team-up Rasengan attack is getting kinda old, even though this time it was an attempted surprise attack from above. And Kabuto not even being fooled didn't help matters either.

I do hope Jiraiya has taught Naruto something else that's new in the two and half years that he's trained him. At this point it just seems like Naruto's reflexes have been all that's been improved.

4. And the suspense builds... We all know what Kishimoto's trying to do here through Kabuto's dialogue. He's trying to prepare us for a bit different Sasuke from what we're used to. "People change. Sasuke is no longer the Sasuke you used to know."

Well, I'd be willing to bet my socks, though, that Sasuke is still very much the same guy. We all know he'll still be refined, cool, handsome, strong, and pretty much a silent personality. Some of that has already been kind of established in his brief appearances in recent chapter. If any of that's changed drastically at all, Kishimoto would be best advised to nail some wood to his doors to keep out a horde of very upset Sasutards!

I do think though that at least one thing has changed - Sasuke's innocence will have been lost. He's most likely has committed a lot of atrocities under Orochimaru's orders. As Neji would put it, Sasuke's soul is currently in the darkness. Knowing his popularity with the fans, I'd say Kishimoto is nervous about how fans might react when that becomes even more obvious. Even so, I think he's being a bit silly - that still won't make Sasuke any less appealing to his fans, especially since it's a ninja's world, and as we've seen in this series, even children in that kind of environment are taught to kill and follow orders (see Haku).

And personally, as we've already seen Sasuke mercilessly pierce Naruto's chest with his hand - after that, nothing else would surprise me coming from him. (And that in itself sort of didn't endear Sasuke to me too much, either.)

5. What the..! When Kabuto was restrained from behind by Sai, I almost expected him to holler "HEY - double crossing is MY biz!" XD It's always fun to see people get a taste of their own medicine sometimes.

I must admit though, that one took me completely off guard - I sure didn't see that happening in this chapter. I guess Naruto's speech at the end of the last chapter had a profound effect on him.

6. Better than Therapy! And yeah, judging by Sai's words afterwards about his reasons about finding out the meaning of bonds, I'd say that it was pretty obvious that Naruto's speech DID have an effect on him - coupled with Sakura's own speech as well. Still, somehow I kinda thought that it would have been much more difficult to convince Sai to snap out of it though.

But perhaps Sakura and Naruto should open up a psychiatric practice.

7. Not a happy camper. Kabuto wins the prize for having the most pissed face I've seen in the series so far in this chapter.

http://i3.tinypic.com/wlzqmh.png ...doesn't he look so pissed? XD

8. Yay for letting bygones be bygones! =P OK, please pardon my slightly less-than-subtle sarcasm here.

Still, I felt that Naruto's team was taking a bit of - no a HUGE - risk here allowing Sai to be on the team again. Granted he did gain some trust back by incapacitating Kabuto like that, but this is still somebody who almost betrayed Konohagakure. And then they team him up with Naruto and separate again to try to find Sasuke, even though it's pretty obvious Sai could probably take Naruto out in a heartbeat. Weird.

Weren't Sakura and Yamato concerned at all about Naruto's welfare in the presence of a traitor, especially considering he was wounded? The story all of a sudden feels a bit too rushed here, after several slow chapters.

9. Naruto's Magic Strikes Again! And to think, if Sai had just stared at Naruto's face at the start of the mission long enough, instead of musing on his crotch... he would have remembered his brother already, finished his book and regained his emotions, and all this mess could have been avoided! =/

10. Caught, like rats! Really, these two boys should have picked some room to rest, instead of right out in the hallway. Orochimaru was probably just going to the bathroom and look at what he find on the way! Ku ku ku.

RATING: 3.5 out of 5 Stars. This chapter was awesome in that we finally get to see Kabuto kind of humilitated, but it still seemed a bit rushed, so not giving it four or five stars. It was still a pretty interesting chapter, though. Didn't expect Sai to be back on the team any time soon.

Predictions for Chapter 305 and MORE:

For Chapter 305: Orochimaru probably won't really care much about what side Sai's on, but will be able to take care of them easy enough. He'll take them to meet Sasuke, since he's actually eager to find out who's stronger, Naruto or Sasuke. Hell, Oro might even give Naruto a night to rest and get his strength back, promising a meeting with Sasuke! And perhaps he'll be holding one of them hostage, since he now knows Yamato and Sakura are probably sneaking around somewhere.

And now - here's an even bigger prediction I'll make - how this storyarc will end! .... I think Sai will die. Yeah, I know most of you guys are already thinking the same way, since the story seems obviously headed into that direction. Sudden change of heart and all that. Perfect recipe for a honorable death of sorts... a self-sacrifice?

So, HOW will he die? How about this - Sasuke and Naruto gets caught up in a heated battle. Sasuke obviously turns out to be more powerful - especially considering Naruto's no longer relying on the Kyuubi to finish his battles for him. So Naruto loses (though giving a good fight), just before Sasuke can deliver his deathblow that's intended for him, Sai places himself in front of it - claiming that he doesn't want to see brothers fight. And that's how Sai goes out. That's my prediction anyway.

(Now we'll see if I'm right or not... hopefully sometime in the next month... XD )

Galth
April 28, 2006, 12:12 PM
Well, i had high hopes for what Hermie called "Kabuto's evil grin", but it just wasn't avatar shaped i guess :p

And after declaring for months that Sai would die for sure this arc, this current chapter completely threw me off my own theory. He might just be the last member of team 7 for sure! :knk

Oh, and though slow, thanks for posting, Phil :p, but i must comment: why no "Sai's brother looks like...!!" comment ?! I'm sure a certain name popped in your mind when you saw that guy! :o

Gold Knight
April 28, 2006, 12:20 PM
Hmm, regarding that:

I actually initially thought Mizuki when I saw him because of his giant-sized shuriken on his back.

Then I thought about the ANBU member that Kabuto first saw when he opened the envelope - looks very similar to him.

CheckMate
April 28, 2006, 12:32 PM
awesome..

but not the "offer for one nite stay" part  :p

i really dont see any chance that team 7 manages to survive from that place, i mean Oro alone can annihilate them all.

something interesting is going to happen after naruto vs sasuke  :p

destinator
April 28, 2006, 12:35 PM
hm team 7 with sai, that would be interesting...i could like that



i really dont see any chance that team 7 manages to survive from that place, i mean Oro alone can annihilate them all.


uhm i expect a lot from yamato and together with sakura and naruto he could wipe out oro but that wont happen :)

ShgnLW
April 28, 2006, 02:54 PM
i really dont see any chance that team 7 manages to survive from that place, i mean Oro alone can annihilate them all.

Hmm... you would be suprised about that... I mean, Naruto going to 4 tails kyuubi can defeat Oro (my interpretation), but it would likely be that this does not happen IF they fight, not only because Naruto promised not to go into kyuubi mode again (did he?) but because Oro will not talk about Sasuke anymore, but go for the fast kill. Yamato, that guy is really something, maybe he is almost at the same level as Oro or jiraiya, what I don't think... but sure he can hold of oro and with the help of the rest of the team, they can surely win against oro...

...back on topic: great review, again GK.

okyatoks
April 28, 2006, 03:16 PM
Quote from GK


So, HOW will he die? How about this - Sasuke and Naruto gets caught up in a heated battle. Sasuke obviously turns out to be more powerful - especially considering Naruto's no longer relying on the Kyuubi to finish his battles for him. So Naruto loses (though giving a good fight), just before Sasuke can deliver his deathblow that's intended for him, Sai places himself in front of it - claiming that he doesn't want to see brothers fight. And that's how Sai goes out. That's my prediction anyway.


Interesting... I myself and the others are also predicting that Sai would die soon enough... as his mission has ended (As said by Sai)...
I like the way you picture... how Sai will die... Very dramatic... :thumbs

Gold Knight
April 29, 2006, 05:52 AM
but not the "offer for one nite stay" part :p

Maybe not. But hey, that's what Michael Jackson would do when he sees a couple of kids in his house.


i really dont see any chance that team 7 manages to survive from that place, i mean Oro alone can annihilate them all.


In that case, they'd have to rename the series "The Delicious Adventures of Orochimaru." Oh noes.



Hmm... you would be suprised about that... I mean, Naruto going to 4 tails kyuubi can defeat Oro (my interpretation), but it would likely be that this does not happen IF they fight, not only because Naruto promised not to go into kyuubi mode again (did he?) but because Oro will not talk about Sasuke anymore, but go for the fast kill. Yamato, that guy is really something, maybe he is almost at the same level as Oro or jiraiya, what I don't think... but sure he can hold of oro and with the help of the rest of the team, they can surely win against oro...

I suppose Orochimaru WOULD have to be a bit worried about Naruto going into Kyuubi mode again, nobody likes their hideout crumbling down around their head...


...back on topic: great review, again GK.


Thanks ;)



Interesting... I myself and the others are also predicting that Sai would die soon enough... as his mission has ended (As said by Sai)...
I like the way you picture... how Sai will die... Very dramatic... :thumbs


Isn't it? But it'd be cool... in a morbid sense.

Tamerlane
April 29, 2006, 12:47 PM
I've been somewhat puzzled by the fact that we haven't seen a single soul other than Oro, Kabuto and Sasuke at this den, when Orochimaru has been so known for having so many pawns. I can understand why Kishimoto doesn't want to introduce any more characters considering we've got enough new ones to go around right now, but it still feels out of place within the story. Hopefully there's a bit of an explanation forthcoming.

Well personally I dont see why anyone would follow Oro...I mean the guy is obviously psycho. If I were his followers I would make sure that I was out of sight at all times too. o.o

Perhaps there is a reason for it though....or it could be that this 'den' is really just that. It is not the main place of Oro followers...it is just a small stop, very much a 'hideout' therefore not anyone would really be there. Maybe the main bulk of his followers are in the hidden Sound village? It is an interesting idea...



3. That Again! Sorry to say this, but Naruto's clone-team-up Rasengan attack is getting kinda old, even though this time it was an attempted surprise attack from above. And Kabuto not even being fooled didn't help matters either.

I do hope Jiraiya has taught Naruto something else that's new in the two and half years that he's trained him. At this point it just seems like Naruto's reflexes have been all that's been improved.

Lets hope so......I am getting really sick of seeing Rasengan myself....and watcing the anime is not helping with that at all. :notrust



4. And the suspense builds... We all know what Kishimoto's trying to do here through Kabuto's dialogue. He's trying to prepare us for a bit different Sasuke from what we're used to. "People change. Sasuke is no longer the Sasuke you used to know."

Well, I'd be willing to bet my socks, though, that Sasuke is still very much the same guy. We all know he'll still be refined, cool, handsome, strong, and pretty much a silent personality. Some of that has already been kind of established in his brief appearances in recent chapter. If any of that's changed drastically at all, Kishimoto would be best advised to nail some wood to his doors to keep out a horde of very upset Sasutards!

I do think though that at least one thing has changed - Sasuke's innocence will have been lost. He's most likely has committed a lot of atrocities under Orochimaru's orders.

I am hoping desperatly that Sasuke is not changed too much, although I think that you are right, his innocence is long gone. I dont see how it would have been kept in tact working that closely with Oro (who as previously mentioned is psycho)

If he is really changed though *goes on a rampage* Rar! >=(



6. Better than Therapy! And yeah, judging by Sai's words afterwards about his reasons about finding out the meaning of bonds, I'd say that it was pretty obvious that Naruto's speech DID have an effect on him - coupled with Sakura's own speech as well. Still, somehow I kinda thought that it would have been much more difficult to convince Sai to snap out of it though.

But perhaps Sakura and Naruto should open up a psychiatric practice.

XD

Now the real test will be to see if all that talking is going to do a damn bit of good when they are confronted with Sasuke finally. And yeah...Sai caved very easily....makes all those theories about him not really switching sides and is still working against Naruto and comp. almost believeable. Than again it could be that Sai (as much as his character is growing on me) is going to be written out of the story very soon here and this was his last redeeming moment so when is is finally killed......all the readers can think....'but he seemed like such a nice guy there at the end'.



7. Not a happy camper. Kabuto wins the prize for having the most pissed face I've seen in the series so far in this chapter.

o.o scary *shivers*



Interesting... I myself and the others are also predicting that Sai would die soon enough... as his mission has ended (As said by Sai)...
I like the way you picture... how Sai will die... Very dramatic... :thumbs


Exactly! Sai is not long for this world.....I would almost bet money on it.

Anyways thanks for posting this GK, I know that I look forward to these every week.

:amuse

Gold Knight
May 01, 2006, 03:35 AM
Well personally I dont see why anyone would follow Oro...I mean the guy is obviously psycho. If I were his followers I would make sure that I was out of sight at all times too. o.o

Perhaps there is a reason for it though....or it could be that this 'den' is really just that. It is not the main place of Oro followers...it is just a small stop, very much a 'hideout' therefore not anyone would really be there. Maybe the main bulk of his followers are in the hidden Sound village? It is an interesting idea...

Oh yes, you're right - Kabuto DID explain to Yamato (at the time pretending as Sasori) about that at the end of Volume 32. "We have a number of hideouts... and we switch between them each week in order to avoid detection. Some are of course located in countries outside of Oto. Orochimaru's spies have infiltrated them to help us set up bases.

Still, our method of travel takes any number of forms and can make things difficult... currently we reside in a hideout on a small island in a lake to the north. We will change our location three days from now."

I remember some readers talking about how Kishimoto pretty much helped the fillers stay with the main story with that explanation.

I suppose if Orochimaru is worried more about being found out by the Akatsuki, he'd have reason to have less followers around him in any one place. Even if he was to stumble over one pair, he still has enough ability to fight or get away intact, but if the Akatsuki found out where he was at and planned a full attack... ouch.

hatakescarecrow
May 01, 2006, 05:57 AM
2. And they call Naruto brash? Odd that Kabuto, not knowing the whole situation, still decided to ambush Naruto's team without a contingency plan. Is it a commentary on Kabuto's over-confidence in his own abilities, or the seemingly lack of men Orochimaru has at his hideout?


Cries. I think kabuto thought that sai would help him. However, unknowingly to kabuto, sai has been converted to narutism.

Gold Knight
May 02, 2006, 07:01 AM
It's sorta out of character though how Kabuto would instantly go from distrusting Sai to trusting him not to backstab him. Not to mention jumping in and daring four challengers (and clones) instead of one. A more typical scene for Kabuto would be to wait until the others clear out and leave the Yamato clone and Sai alone. Then he would attack then and have an easier time.

hatakescarecrow
May 04, 2006, 04:16 AM
He he. with the newest chp, I can now imagine LOTU, mibu clan, deep in the ocean, sho and every sasutard on earth using a battering ram to knock down kishi's door.

Gold Knight
May 15, 2006, 02:11 AM
Sorry guys about the lack of 305 Ten Comments. It was just a really busy week for me. And to be honest there really hasn't been much to talk about lately - I've gotten to the point where I definitely feel Kishimoto has been slumping as far as interesting chapters lately. I don't think I'll do a 306 Ten Comments either.

So - I guess I'll just comment on Sasuke's uniform this time around. Quite frankly, it sucks. And even if he didn't have a bow, he looks like somebody's dancing instructor. Ayah said that it's also probably loose as to give him some flexibility in letting his wings grow in CS2 stage, which is a good point and I agree with her there. Kishimoto did succeed at one thing though - Sasuke is definitely more mature-looking than when we last saw him. And if we ignore the outfit, Sasuke looks pretty cool. And we all know he won't be in Orochimaru's service forever, right? I doubt he's much crazy about the outfit either, but he obviously out grew his old uniform and had to wear whatever Oro gave him since he couldn't just go back to Konohagakure and do some good ol' shopping. I wonder if he's still taller than Naruto...

I guess that's it, for now.

gerop
May 19, 2006, 12:23 PM
Hi,

I really do enjoy reading your comments. Hope you'd write some for future chapters :)

Thanks !

Gold Knight
May 20, 2006, 01:08 AM
Thanks, gerop. I'll probably write one for 307, it was a good chapter ^^

Adam_xx
May 21, 2006, 03:43 AM
Heh, nice comments GK =)

Rampages
May 21, 2006, 10:15 PM
I would've also enjoyed seeing a few more ninja guards in his hideout. This is reminding me of that filler arc where there was almost nobody in Orochimaru's lair but the main evildoers. Bad bad bad!