When will Naruto ever be promoted?

[fed_by_ramen22]

Just wondering... He's the only remaining Genin in his age group but he already killed and akatsuki member and he can manipulate wind chakra well. Well just wanna hear some of other's thoughts and opinion. ^_^ So what do you guys think huh? Will he remain a Genin forever?

[Coup]

Doesn't really matter to me. Luckily its only a title and doesn't stunt his growth. So if he remains a genin for a extended period of time, he will be the strongest genin ever. :)

[Karma]

Doesn't really matter to me. Luckily its only a title and doesn't stunt his growth. So if he remains a genin for a extended period of time, he will be the strongest genin ever. :)
lol you right.. the strongest person in the manga happen to be a genin... :amuse that just make Hokage title so not worthy....surely not living up to its name..

[Marq]

I literally took the message Kishi made with Naruto around part 1. If I have to I'll be genin forever and I'll still become hokage no matter what (something around the lines).. I'm pretty sure Naruto will never be promoted. Tsunade doesn't seem to care about the promotion thing seeing as she's already thinking of Naruto to be the hokage.. (not the 6th one though)

[Raizen]

I don't think he will be promoted, he will become hokage while still a genin the same way gaara was.

I think the author is trying to show that despite what title u are given, no matter how low, u can still become anything u want with hard work

[samsiufan]

I don't think he will be promoted, he will become hokage while still a genin the same way gaara was.

I think the author is trying to show that despite what title u are given, no matter how low, u can still become anything u want with hard work

Agreed...his next promotion will be to Hokage.....or maybe he will be just a honorary Hokage (because he will die in battle whilst trying to get there)

[Marq]

god I really hate the main character dies in order to be recognized. I REALLY REALLY HATE that.

I'm lookin at you 666 satan.

[Neuroff]

god I really hate the main character dies in order to be recognized. I REALLY REALLY HATE that.

I'm lookin at you 666 satan.
It'd be even worse with Kishi taking it straight from his twin brother.

[lazyboyrod]

whenever he passes the chuunin exam

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

i don't thinking he is ever be promote(expected to a hokage). i think he is going to become the first gennin hokage.

[pjoto]

Hehe, he's a perfect Hokage, he fights best 1on1 like Hokage's usually does.
I don't see Naruto entering the Chunin-exams considering the situations surrounding himself and the village atm. He'll go straight from Genin to Hokage, can't wait to see his first Hokage-fight. If we ever get to see it that is.
Love Rurouni Kenshin, the latest special chapters when we get to see Yahiko all grown up, hope it's the same with Naruto. Some final chapters with him as Hokage protecting the village.

[lazyboyrod]

I hope not, I want to see a Jounin Naruto at some point, maybe he could skip from Genin to Jounin, but not Hokage, thats too much.

[Stop]

I want to see naruto just burn all the other genin when he goes take the test.

[Razh]

I don't get it why he still has to take some silly tests in order to advance, when he has already proven that he is closer to Jonin.
Being a Genin, he really has no place on the missions he was sent to. So, how many A or S missions must he do in order to be recognized as a Chuunin?

[gopher18]

I think they'll just do another timeskip and come back to when he is older. That way Kishi doesn't have to do another exam period/arc

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

I hope not, I want to see a Jounin Naruto at some point, maybe he could skip from Genin to Jounin, but not Hokage, thats too much.

what different does it make? It just an inacurate title. Naruto as genin would destory all the chuunin and most of the jounin. To me it doesn't really matter.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

There's no time for Naruto to take part in a chuunin exam, it's not exactly peaceful times is it?

I think he will go straight to hokage.

[khar2]

man i would love too see exsam arc all over again
i put my $ that naruto can pass every aspect of test except that written exsam:)

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

man i would love too see exsam arc all over again
i put my $ that naruto can pass every aspect of test except that written exsam:)

i think it would be a miss match if naruto take the test again. He would demolish everyone else in the frecking exam.

[Umbra Wolf]

i think it would be a miss match if naruto take the test again. He would demolish everyone else in the frecking exam.
Like Killua in the Hunter exam (Hunter x Hunter). That exam was done in one chapter and it was a carnage.

But for Naruto there is nothing to claim except the title and that one doesn't interest him. I vote for the intsant promotion to Hokage.

[lazyboyrod]

what different does it make? It just an inacurate title. Naruto as genin would destory all the chuunin and most of the jounin. To me it doesn't really matter.

I highly doubt that, Naruto may have more power than mos of the village Jounin, but they have smarts and experience over him.

[Raizen]

There is no point in him becoming chuunin. He doesn't care much for the title, his only goal is for hokage. He will become hokage while still a genin just like gaara

[lazyboyrod]

There is no point in him becoming chuunin. He doesn't care much for the title, his only goal is for hokage. He will become hokage while still a genin just like gaara

Seeing as how the rest of Gaara's team are jounin we dont know if he went straight from gennin to Kazekage, it was never explained

[khar2]

There is no point in him becoming chuunin. He doesn't care much for the title, his only goal is for hokage. He will become hokage while still a genin just like gaara

hmm, ok, but do you think it would be ok for someone to skip "few" steps toward others, or to skip written exams (healthy mind in healthy body), or did ever someone skip "few" steps in hierarchy, maybe with revolution, or coup

[TheChosenOne]

I think he likely go straight to Hokage, considering him being a chuunin, jounin doesn't effect him or his ninja skills one bit. He is already jounin-minor Kage level, so he will likely follow Gaara by being a genin Kage. :)

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

I highly doubt that, Naruto may have more power than mos of the village Jounin, but they have smarts and experience over him.

smart and experience doesn't matter as we saw in his fight against Neji(who is a jounin now) and kakuzu. Neji is way smarter than him and Kakuzu have way more experience than him and he defeat them both. The only Jounin i see that can take naruto in a fight is Kakashi and he probably would defeat Kakashi too.

[lazyboyrod]

smart and experience doesn't matter as we saw in his fight against Neji(who is a jounin now) and kakuzu. Neji is way smarter than him and Kakuzu have way more experience than him and he defeat them both. The only Jounin i see that can take naruto in a fight is Kakashi and he probably would defeat Kakashi too.

Well Neji was not smart back then, and he had only about a years more experience then Naruto (not significant at all), now his fight with Kakuzu he actually showed some smarts, but not everyone will fall for his KB tricks. Kakashi has shown in the begining of part two that he could still take Naruto down, all Narto has is his FRS, but now that Kakashi has seen it do u really think it he will let Naruto use it on him?

[Forever_Melody]

Well as stated by others, Naruto's goal is Hokage. Nowhere was it mentioned that you needed to be Jounin or anything before being Hokage. I mean, Jiraiya & Tsunade were elected and they were no longer of any rank in Konoha(other than Sannin which isn't a rank, but a title).

If I understood well, the Kage title is based on some kind of election(see elders electing Jiraiya and how Hashirama was "chosen") so I don't think it's a "go up in rank" type of thing. Surely you'd pass through the ranks eventually to achieve the Kage spot since normally they choose in the village's strongest, but it wasn't stated to be a requirement as far as I know(maybe in the databooks it is?)

Therefore, I don't think Naruto would go for the Chunnin rank unless it was something he'd need for Hokage(which I think was Naruto's mentality at the 1st Chunnin exam, but now he has bigger things to worry about).

Anyways, whether or not he does it, I don't think Kishi would bother showing it to us unless he'd want to introduce a whole crop of new/younger characters to us.

[TheChosenOne]

Well as stated by others, Naruto's goal is Hokage. Nowhere was it mentioned that you needed to be Jounin or anything before being Hokage. I mean, Jiraiya & Tsunade were elected and they were no longer of any rank in Konoha(other than Sannin which isn't a rank, but a title).

I think the they still held the rank of jounin, at least Jiraiya and Oro, reckoning they were given their own squad to train and teach (Oro only had Anko). :)

[Forever_Melody]

I think the they still held the rank of jounin, at least Jiraiya and Oro, reckoning they were given their own squad to train and teach (Oro only had Anko). :)

Ah well you hav a point, but I was talking when each of them went their separate ways i.e Oro went rogue, Tsunade wandered gambling and Jiraiya just wandered away. I think Tsunade and Jiraiya probably stayed in Konoha's favour compared to Orochimaru lol :p

Bu still, unless it's in the databooks, I don't recall seeing any concrete proof that you'd need to be Chunnin/Jounin or whatever rank to be Hokage.

[lazyboyrod]

Bu still, unless it's in the databooks, I don't recall seeing any concrete proof that you'd need to be Chunnin/Jounin or whatever rank to be Hokage.

It isnt but its kinda implied, the Hokage is usually the strongest ninja in the village, so a genin being the strongest is kinda out there but we never know Naruto was the first to do alot of things this could be another one.

[TheChosenOne]

Ah well you hav a point, but I was talking when each of them went their separate ways i.e Oro went rogue, Tsunade wandered gambling and Jiraiya just wandered away. I think Tsunade and Jiraiya probably stayed in Konoha's favour compared to Orochimaru lol :p

Sure, but even if they went their separate ways, they still (likely) held the position of jounin in their village. :)


Bu still, unless it's in the databooks, I don't recall seeing any concrete proof that you'd need to be Chunnin/Jounin or whatever rank to be Hokage.

I dunno about the databooks, but it's not in the manga, plus considering Gaara who supposedly went from Genin to Kage, could mean that rank (superior) isn't a necessity for becoming Kage. :)

[azure21]

Aside the Hokage, he needs to be a Jounin and become Konohamaru's teacher. :D

[Skfan]

i think he will become genin to Hokaga

[Starzen]

the 3rd once said that ranks are simply for the recognition of shinobi, so that means naruto does not need the promotion as he has proved himself over and over, besides he only cares about the kage rank and I don't see him wearing a different outfit.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

Aside the Hokage, he needs to be a Jounin and become Konohamaru's teacher. :D

i will like to see that happen.

[Stinko]

I think it was already foreshadowed during the Chuunin exams when Naruto gives his motivational speech during the written test that even if he failed he would just become the first Genin to jump rank straight to Hokage.

[lazyboyrod]

Yeah I guess thats the ongoing theme in Naruto.

[JutsuMasterr]

i think naruto stays genin but he already have the skills of a jounin

[lazyboyrod]

I found this while going through old chapters, its Kishi's interpretation of Chuunin/Jounin Naruto!

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/96/01/

http://img36.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/00000096/01.jpg

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

^^He look badass in that picture. You know what, now i want him to be a jounin main because if he become one then he wouldn't have to wear that ugly jumpsuit anymore.

[lazyboyrod]

^^He look badass in that picture. You know what, now i want him to be a jounin main because if he become one then he wouldn't have to wear that ugly jumpsuit anymore.

Maybe but at the same time look at Neji he is a jounin but he still wears his toga type get up.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

Maybe but at the same time look at Neji he is a jounin but he still wears his toga type get up.

oh yeah that is right but i just hope Naruto get a new cloth. I'm not a big fan of that jumpsuit he wear.

[Darth Executor]

I literally took the message Kishi made with Naruto around part 1.

Let's hope this message doesn't end up being literal.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/8/naruto_v02_ch008_015/

[lazyboyrod]

Let's hope this message doesn't end up being literal.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/8/naruto_v02_ch008_015/

Yup he's guna die before becoming Hokage :(
But does anyone else notice how much Kishi's drawings have advanced, big improvement in my opinion.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

Let's hope this message doesn't end up being literal.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/8/naruto_v02_ch008_015/

I hope it doesn't too. That will be worst thing ever.

[Israfel]

whenever he passes the chuunin exam

I don't think Naruto will take another chuunin exam ever. Firstly, there's no time for that now. Secondly, after the end of this Arc (after he defeated Pain), he'd be too powerful to be pitted against Genins (imagining him using FRS on some poor Genin makes me cringe :darn)

If he's to be promoted, it's going to be done in a special way. I don't think anyone in the village will object.

[lazyboyrod]

^^ What do you mean like str8 to Hokage or do you mean, like he will get his own special rank like Jiraiya and the Sanin did.

[Raizen]

He will be a genin that is nominated and wins the title of hokage despite being a genin

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

^^Yeah, i believe he is going to hokage without getting promoted from genin.

[Razh]

I think he will get promoted after or even before the next mission. After all, there is no point in testing someone if you already know how strong the person is.

As far as I'm concerned, Naruto was supposed to become Chuunin after his fight with Neji. I don't really get it how Shikamaru did something a lot greater than Naruto there.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

As far as I'm concerned, Naruto was supposed to become Chuunin after his fight with Neji. I don't really get it how Shikamaru did something a lot greater than Naruto there.

I don't get that either. How can Naruto who defeat a genius Ninja like Neji not get promote and Shikimaru who basically lost get promoted? It simply ridiculous if you ask me.

[bigtymer32]

I don't get that either. How can Naruto who defeat a genius Ninja like Neji not get promote and Shikimaru who basically lost get promoted? It simply ridiculous if you ask me.


dont forget they said neji wasn't ready to be a chunin either it wasnt because of skill.the ranks go more off leadership abilities than power of a ninja.


chunin- lead a team of your peers
jounin-lead teams of genin,chunin and there own peers.

not saying the skills dont matter either but when theres test involved there going off leadership ability and how they would react in a battle.shikamaru was able to think of many way different ways to defeat an enemy and was leveled headed the whole battle.thats why he got picked to be a chunin before neji and anruto.


i personally think naruto should be at least be a chunin by nows he already has the skills of a jounin.

[Starzen]

so are you trying to say that naruto was not level headed and never out smarted neji in that fight.

[patedecarne]

Naruto has the potential to be at least a chuunin right now;

Probably he won't be promoted, because Idon't think Kishimoto would write another chuunin arc in the series, instead, he'll become Hokage by his own merits: let's not forget that Naruto is building a good reputation in Konoha, people were saying about all the missions Naruto took part;

And about the power aspect, the only reason why Kishimoto still didn't work about it is because Naruto can finish any training quickly, just in matter of days. I think that with one or two more trainings, Naruto will be the strongest in Konoha, thus making him a perfect candidate for the Hokage title;

First, he needs to be accepted as a good leader, must must accept him, and I don't think this is a difficult thing, plus his power and ability to make any training easir can make him a Hokage without being "officially" promoted;

[Starzen]

atleast chuunin you say and more training for what, if he is not the strongest as kakashi has already said that naruto has surpassed him, and according to you, who is the strongest in konoha if I may ask. how many jounins does he have to defeat before he is able to defeat them at the least.

[Emily00]

As other people have said it's only a title, and I really don't think he's going to take the chuunin exam, I think eventually on he'll be automatically 'raised' in name by the Hokage, I mean he definitely deserves it right now they just haven't really had the time to care about a simple title.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

dont forget they said neji wasn't ready to be a chunin either it wasnt because of skill.the ranks go more off leadership abilities than power of a ninja.
.

They Neji wasn't ready to become chunin because he lost.
Also the funny thing is Neji is now a Jounin.

[Razh]

Thing is, Naruto would normally have to be at least Chuunin in order to participate in the missions he had participated in. That shit bothers me. I just hope there is a reason why Kishimoto seemingly "overlooked" the fact.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

Thing is, Naruto would normally have to be at least Chuunin in order to participate in the missions he had participated in. That shit bothers me. I just hope there is a reason why Kishimoto seemingly "overlooked" the fact.

I think him "overlooking" that fact is base on what he make naruto say during the chuunin exam; something along the line of becoming the hokage even if he is a genin forever.

[VASSiLi]

The degree at the end doesn't count anything. Even Sasuke technically is a Genin, but we all saw how he is strong. Returning on Naruto, I believe that by Genin he pass directly to Hokage, also because, frankly, I don't see a Naruto chuunin/Jounin xD

[Drmke]

I'm beginning to think that Kishi is planning to just make Naruto stay a Genin for the rest of the series until he either dies or becomes Hokage.

I know it seems kinda irrelevant, but its kinda annoying that every other of the rookie 9 has become at least a Chunin.

Him being a Genin still at the beginning of Part 2 was funny cause he had been off training for so long but now his powers rival some of the strongest ninjas in the village. It just seems like they would at least make him a Chunin or let him do whatever it is you do to become a Jonin.

[M3J]

He needs to become a chuunin before he becomes a jounin and prove that he can be a good jounin. To become chuunin, he needs to partake in an exam and prove that he is chuunin material. Power doesn't have everything to do with chuunin and jounin, there are also other things to consider. And to be honest, he's not ready to be chuunin, not just yet anyway.
Though I wonder, how did Sakura become a chuunin without Sasuke and Naruto? O_o Maybe she took Shikamaru's place in Team Asuma, or was promoted by Tsunade for some reason? She did show few reasons why she deserved to be chuunin except for power aspect, few things Naruto should observe.

[Drmke]

I think Naruto is ready for Chunin now if he wasn't so obsessed with Sasuke.

The only thing is he would have to take the exam with two other non-Chunins who would probably be newer weaker Genins. Though they would be pretty much guaranteed to make it past the team exams. lol

[Xiraiya]

I think Naruto is ready for Chunin now if he wasn't so obsessed with Sasuke.

The only thing is he would have to take the exam with two other non-Chunins who would probably be newer weaker Genins. Though they would be pretty much guaranteed to make it past the team exams. lol

They would probably make Naruto take the exam alone, because of the obvious strength difference between him and normal Genin.

[digitaldude]

I think he will stay genin forever, rank means nothing now since naruto and sasuke are genin, yet they are s-class level at the least, I think him becoming chuunin might make a good anime filler, I don`t really want chapters wasted in the manga.

[Xiraiya]

He should atleasst be promoted under special circumstances though.

Shikimaru did say awhile back to Naruto that he'd be the one treating people to Ramen and being called Naruto Sensei someday.

Made me wonder if perhaps he will someday be a Jounin teacher and that Hokage is further away than most of us thought.

[Essence]

He should atleasst be promoted under special circumstances though.

Shikimaru did say awhile back to Naruto that he'd be the one treating people to Ramen and being called Naruto Sensei someday.

Made me wonder if perhaps he will someday be a Jounin teacher and that Hokage is further away than most of us thought.

hokage is further away for naruto, i can't see him become one without solving his whole sasuke dilemma and obsession.

[adel123456789]

naruto will become a hokage but never a chunen or junen. it doesnt look good for him.

[Phoenix946]

naruto will become a hokage but never a chunen or junen. it doesnt look good for him.

Exactly, Naruto is meant for greater things than your average Chuunin/Jounin shit. We won't see him lead a group of genins or be team captain for some dangerous mission. And for being the saviour of the ninja world you don't need a rank.

Although it would be awesome to see Naruto take the Chuunin exam :D He'd have to be careful not to kill any cute genins lol. But he definitely has the intelligence to be at least Chuunin now imo.

[n1j0l4]

I think that Kishimoto want to show us that Naruto doesn't interest the charge ( Genin, Jounin etc. ). Naruto wants to protect his village and wants to became Hokage.

Only this...
...I think...

[Weapon_X]

Naruto won't be a chuunin or a Jounin, he will step straight from Genin to Hokage. Naruto is the main character of the show, the show is named Naruto, everything is centred around Naruto so he has to be unique and stand out more then any other characters in the story. So Kishi will keep Naruto as a Genin until he is, what about 20? And then he'll become Hokage...

[poobert]

I think Naruto will stay a genin for now. Danzo is hokage and in order to keep naruto in the village there is no need to ever promote him. Even being a ninja is risky. At most he will become a chunin so that Danzo can give him a desk job and at worst he will be demoted and imprisoned.

I also don't think that it was ever necessary to promote him. It seems to me that it will be his goal to change the ninja world forever. Maybe not bowing down to the ninja ranks is a premonition of things to come?

But to be honest the story is undergoing a shift at the moment. It is the start of a new arc, so we will have to see what happens.

[adel123456789]

Exactly, Naruto is meant for greater things than your average Chuunin/Jounin shit. We won't see him lead a group of genins or be team captain for some dangerous mission. And for being the saviour of the ninja world you don't need a rank.

Although it would be awesome to see Naruto take the Chuunin exam :D He'd have to be careful not to kill any cute genins lol. But he definitely has the intelligence to be at least Chuunin now imo.

do you know what would realy suck. if naruto ended the same way kishi's brother ended his manga....... killing the main charecter.

[Enma Ai]

I think he'll just go directly to Hokage. Like they'll make an exception for him i guess.

[Destined_One]

If we get a time skip during a possible war, this would be the only time I couild see him realistically being promoted.. the only other possibility is being selected a chunin/jonin by Tsunade or whoever is the hokage.. there was a diagram which Kishimoto drew in one of the chapters, that said they can be selected as chunin/jonin etc outside the realms of chunin selection exams.. Kakashi was the perfect example, due to the war at the time, they were short on strong ninja and he was promoted..

Id love for him to be promoted, not because of rank/status etc.. but seeing Naruto as a Jonin sensei would just be so cool..

[neomaster121]

If we get a time skip during a possible war, this would be the only time I couild see him realistically being promoted.. the only other possibility is being selected a chunin/jonin by Tsunade or whoever is the hokage.. there was a diagram which Kishimoto drew in one of the chapters, that said they can be selected as chunin/jonin etc outside the realms of chunin selection exams.. Kakashi was the perfect example, due to the war at the time, they were short on strong ninja and he was promoted..

Id love for him to be promoted, not because of rank/status etc.. but seeing Naruto as a Jonin sensei would just be so cool..

Yep this could verey well be what may happen

Danzou seems the waring type
and otherwise i can't see naruto being promoted to higher ranks

[M3J]

Exactly, Naruto is meant for greater things than your average Chuunin/Jounin shit. We won't see him lead a group of genins or be team captain for some dangerous mission. And for being the saviour of the ninja world you don't need a rank.

Although it would be awesome to see Naruto take the Chuunin exam :D He'd have to be careful not to kill any cute genins lol. But he definitely has the intelligence to be at least Chuunin now imo.
Frankly, if he doesn't or can't, lead a group of genins or be a team captain, leading a team, he doesn't deserve to be a hokage and can't be. They won't just make him hokage, they have to see if he's capable of leading the whole village and whether or not he has the intelligence to become hokage. We've seen his intelligence mostly in battles and training, but what about out of it? While he may have the intelligence, can he be enough of a team player or leader to be a chuunin?


If we get a time skip during a possible war, this would be the only time I couild see him realistically being promoted.. the only other possibility is being selected a chunin/jonin by Tsunade or whoever is the hokage.. there was a diagram which Kishimoto drew in one of the chapters, that said they can be selected as chunin/jonin etc outside the realms of chunin selection exams.. Kakashi was the perfect example, due to the war at the time, they were short on strong ninja and he was promoted..

Id love for him to be promoted, not because of rank/status etc.. but seeing Naruto as a Jonin sensei would just be so cool..

I think jounin can be selected anytime after they've proved they're jounin material, but chuunin can be chosen only during chuunin exams or after, sometimes in special case out of it. If Tsunade hasn't promoted him yet, I doubt he will be promoted without taking the exam. With Danzo as hokage, he most likely won't be chuunin, and if he does, he'll avoid Naruto going on missions or dangerous missions that'll take him out of the village.

[Phoenix946]

do you know what would realy suck. if naruto ended the same way kishi's brother ended his manga....... killing the main charecter.

If he kills Naruto in the end it would certainly be a big stamp on the whole manga. I'm not sure if I'd think it sucks, but I'd rather just have a happy ending with Naruto being Hokage.


Frankly, if he doesn't or can't, lead a group of genins or be a team captain, leading a team, he doesn't deserve to be a hokage and can't be. They won't just make him hokage, they have to see if he's capable of leading the whole village and whether or not he has the intelligence to become hokage. We've seen his intelligence mostly in battles and training, but what about out of it? While he may have the intelligence, can he be enough of a team player or leader to be a chuunin?


Like how they wanted to see if Danzou was capable? :p But meh, we never really saw Tsunade be a big teamplayer either, plus Naruto is maturing greatly over the past couple chapters. I don't think it'll be an issue if an opportunity for Naruto to become Hokage arises.

[Drmke]

If we get a time skip during a possible war, this would be the only time I couild see him realistically being promoted.. the only other possibility is being selected a chunin/jonin by Tsunade or whoever is the hokage.. there was a diagram which Kishimoto drew in one of the chapters, that said they can be selected as chunin/jonin etc outside the realms of chunin selection exams.. Kakashi was the perfect example, due to the war at the time, they were short on strong ninja and he was promoted..

Id love for him to be promoted, not because of rank/status etc.. but seeing Naruto as a Jonin sensei would just be so cool..

That would be cool.

I can see a war breaking out and somewhere during it they need more man power and want Naruto to lead a group so they promote him to Jonin or something along that lines.

Even if Danzou was opposed to it, if everyone in the village was cheering for Naruto to become one, it would be hard to just ignore the wants of the entire village.

Then the war ends with Naruto as a big hero and then he gets a team of little Genins :D.

[adel123456789]

If he kills Naruto in the end it would certainly be a big stamp on the whole manga. I'm not sure if I'd think it sucks, but I'd rather just have a happy ending with Naruto being Hokage.



Like how they wanted to see if Danzou was capable? :p But meh, we never really saw Tsunade be a big teamplayer either, plus Naruto is maturing greatly over the past couple chapters. I don't think it'll be an issue if an opportunity for Naruto to become Hokage arises.

if you ever read 666saten then you will know what i mean.

[M3J]

If he kills Naruto in the end it would certainly be a big stamp on the whole manga. I'm not sure if I'd think it sucks, but I'd rather just have a happy ending with Naruto being Hokage.



Like how they wanted to see if Danzou was capable? :p But meh, we never really saw Tsunade be a big teamplayer either, plus Naruto is maturing greatly over the past couple chapters. I don't think it'll be an issue if an opportunity for Naruto to become Hokage arises.

Danzo had different ideals to Sandaime and the the hokages, their ideals were flawed according to him. They thought he'd be the one with the balls to protect the village instead of being peace-mongering.
Tsunade might have become hokage cuz of her lineage, but while she may not have been a great teamplayer, she was a good leader and strong. Can Naruto do the same, lead the way Shikamaru and Kakashi have?

[Phoenix946]

Danzo had different ideals to Sandaime and the the hokages, their ideals were flawed according to him. They thought he'd be the one with the balls to protect the village instead of being peace-mongering.
Tsunade might have become hokage cuz of her lineage, but while she may not have been a great teamplayer, she was a good leader and strong. Can Naruto do the same, lead the way Shikamaru and Kakashi have?

Does Tsunade lead the way Shikamaru and Kakashi have? We've seen Hiruzen mostly take walks and chat with the next generation, and we've seen Tsunade mostly do paperwork. Then when Pain attacked, Tsunade sat down and healed the villagers while it was being destroyed, because it was the best way she could protect everyone. Then Naruto came and saved the day.

I think with Shikamaru and Kakashi as advisors, Naruto could become the best Hokage ever. The best qualities in a leader are to inspire, gain respect from and motivate those under him or her, and Naruto has more of that than anyone else. He may have trouble keeping his head cool when it comes to decision making, but that's what Shikamaru and Kakashi would be for. But yeah, with the way he's maturing atm I really think it won't be long before he would be a proper candidate.

[M3J]

Does Tsunade lead the way Shikamaru and Kakashi have? We've seen Hiruzen mostly take walks and chat with the next generation, and we've seen Tsunade mostly do paperwork. Then when Pain attacked, Tsunade sat down and healed the villagers while it was being destroyed, because it was the best way she could protect everyone. Then Naruto came and saved the day.
It's been stated that Hiruzen was popular with his village, and he was the sensei of the Sannins. Tsunade was also a chuunin, then jounin, she could have been a good leader. And she's a princess, hence another reason for her being a hokage.
To be honest, it's Hinata and Minato who saved the day. Hinata was the reason Naruto went into Kyuubi and got rid of those chakra rod, and Minato prevented the Kyuubi from being released and gave Naruto hope, made him feel better.


I think with Shikamaru and Kakashi as advisors, Naruto could become the best Hokage ever. The best qualities in a leader are to inspire, gain respect from and motivate those under him or her, and Naruto has more of that than anyone else. He may have trouble keeping his head cool when it comes to decision making, but that's what Shikamaru and Kakashi would be for. But yeah, with the way he's maturing atm I really think it won't be long before he would be a proper candidate.

He would also have to plan in a way that'd also protect his team members in the best way possible and also protect them. He needs to come up with ideas the way Shikamaru has, he needs to protect the way Kakashi has. And Shikamaru and Kakashi as advisors wouldn't always help, cuz from what we've seen, the advisors don't always hang out with the hokage. But he is maturing, and he can only go up from here.

[jdw]

I am hoping we see Naruto as a jounin. I think it would be great to see because we would get to see him leading missions with his own team. I want to see him and Konohamaru working together side by side on the battlefield, not just jump from seeing Naruto fighting alone to seeing him siting in the Hokage's chair.

[-Ren Boy-]

Also it will go hand in hand with Jiraiya's story. The naruto from the story was jounin i assume.

[chess4]

maybe they give him a special rank, like in the military when the promote 4 star general to 5 star generals in wartime situtions

[The_Drunk]

Naruto has surpassed those ranks... He is in a rank of his own. He is the shit! and even the villagers want him to be Hokage. As a matter of fact he's going to the summit to talk with the other kages. He can only take two body guards so he's taking Kakashi and Yamato.....

[Necropotence]

if this is true that you have to be a team player then how was gaara picked as the Kazekage?

we all know how gaara was in the past. and the fear of the villagers before the saving gaara arc began

[Xiraiya]

if this is true that you have to be a team player then how was gaara picked as the Kazekage?

we all know how gaara was in the past. and the fear of the villagers before the saving gaara arc began

It was said that after the Konoha incident, Gaara did a lot of missions and worked really hard.

So he probably got upto Jounin and was then made Kazekage.

[kyubisharingan]

He should definately just be upgraded to chuunin. Its clear that, besides power, Naruto has gotten more skilled coming up with strategies and using his surrounds etc. Thats basically how Shikamaru became a chuunin

[adel123456789]

He should definately just be upgraded to chuunin. Its clear that, besides power, Naruto has gotten more skilled coming up with strategies and using his surrounds etc. Thats basically how Shikamaru became a chuunin


why do i have this feeling that shikamru is the one who is gonna become hokage at the end of the manga

[sindergi]

why do i have this feeling that shikamru is the one who is gonna become hokage at the end of the manga

mhmm...maybe. I think he would be a good Hokage. But then Naruto has to die somehow - because I cant see Shikamaru as the hokage if Naruto is still allive.

[adel123456789]

mhmm...maybe. I think he would be a good Hokage. But then Naruto has to die somehow - because I cant see Shikamaru as the hokage if Naruto is still allive.

naruto dies for world piec. or naruto would desapear for a while and when he returns, he descovers that shika is hokage and then he kills him waits untel he dies.

[Tengou]

Considering Danzou rules as acting interim Hokage, Naruto may either get a promotion or not. It all depends on how the hierarchy of the Leaf functions. Although we have seen the various ranks of shinobi in relation to one another, we haven't seen much of the actual internal politics in the Leaf village. Making Naruto a Chuunin or Jounin could serve to give him more autonomy, and this could in turn impede upon Danzou's ability to restrain Naruto's movements.

On the other hand, however, I can see Danzou promote Naruto to Chuunin-rank or higher if it would mean Naruto will be receiving his orders directly from him, which might instead serve to keep a leash on him and prevent the Jounins from shielding him. I cannot see Naruto attain Chuunin-rank any time soon, at least not for any possible reason other than the one I've postulated here.

[gao_dargon]

mhmm...maybe. I think he would be a good Hokage. But then Naruto has to die somehow - because I cant see Shikamaru as the hokage if Naruto is still allive.

he could follow the path of Jiraiya and becom a world troter hermit, spreading the world of peace and love, you know, like a ninja hippie

[jdw]

why do i have this feeling that shikamru is the one who is gonna become hokage at the end of the manga

He is not strong enough. He would just get killed. He is more than smart enough though. IMO, hokage needs to be smart & strong. Strong & stupid id bad, as is smart & weak.

[Delbi]

He is not strong enough. He would just get killed. He is more than smart enough though. IMO, hokage needs to be smart & strong. Strong & stupid id bad, as is smart & weak.

I think Shikamaru could certainly become Hokage. He's only 16 and proved he could take down an Akatsuki member alone, I'd like to think he can become stronger in the future.

And this whole, a Kage needs to be strong is overrated, because strength itself is hard to gauge. I mean the last three Kazekages were all killed or defeated in battle by a single ninja.

And Tsuande, while certainly not weak, isn't that strong compared to the top ninja in the manga. However, she can use her Medical jutsu to help the village.

If Shikamaru became Hoakge he would have to use his vast intelligence to help and protect the village. I mean, if he had several hundred ninja under his command he could think up strategies to keep his village safe by using the ninja serving him. Tsuande showed us that a Hokage doesn't need to be on the front lines fighting to help or protect her village.

[jdw]

I think Shikamaru could certainly become Hokage. He's only 16 and proved he could take down an Akatsuki member alone, I'd like to think he can become stronger in the future.

And this whole, a Kage needs to be strong is overrated, because strength itself is hard to gauge. I mean the last three Kazekages were all killed or defeated in battle by a single ninja.

And Tsuande, while certainly not weak, isn't that strong compared to the top ninja in the manga. However, she can use her Medical jutsu to help the village.

If Shikamaru became Hoakge he would have to use his vast intelligence to help and protect the village. I mean, if he had several hundred ninja under his command he could think up strategies to keep his village safe by using the ninja serving him. Tsuande showed us that a Hokage doesn't need to be on the front lines fighting to help or protect her village.

Reasonable minds can differ on Shikamaru. He is a brilliant guy who uses his resources well. I like him very much. If he levels up, he is more than welcome to the seat for all I care. As he is now, he would just die against the level of people who are appearing. His talents were made for someone like Hidan. I am thinking that if Shika's particular talents were enough, we would have at least heard something of the relative strength of Shikaku, the person he most resembles in the manga. His name has never been in the same sentence as someone being proposed for Hokage, as far as I can recall.

[M3J]

I think Shikamaru could certainly become Hokage. He's only 16 and proved he could take down an Akatsuki member alone, I'd like to think he can become stronger in the future.

And this whole, a Kage needs to be strong is overrated, because strength itself is hard to gauge. I mean the last three Kazekages were all killed or defeated in battle by a single ninja.

And Tsuande, while certainly not weak, isn't that strong compared to the top ninja in the manga. However, she can use her Medical jutsu to help the village.

If Shikamaru became Hoakge he would have to use his vast intelligence to help and protect the village. I mean, if he had several hundred ninja under his command he could think up strategies to keep his village safe by using the ninja serving him. Tsuande showed us that a Hokage doesn't need to be on the front lines fighting to help or protect her village.

Shikamaru is very intelligent, but he's not strong enough to be a hokage. A kage needs both intelligence and strength or something useful. Shikamaru took out Hidan using his intelligence, not strength. Same with others. Now what if he's against Sasuke or someone as smart as him? It also comes down to who's stronger.

[Arrogance]

he could follow the path of Jiraiya and becom a world troter hermit, spreading the world of peace and love, you know, like a ninja hippie
That could only work if it comes to the point were Naruto must give up his dreams of becoming Hokage for the sake of bringing peace to the world. I can see that being a reason why he doesn't become Hokage....or the other option is he gives up his life for peace....either one seems plausible...

[adel123456789]

He is not strong enough. He would just get killed. He is more than smart enough though. IMO, hokage needs to be smart & strong. Strong & stupid id bad, as is smart & weak.

asume said before he died taht shikamaru can become hokage, shikamaru proved that he can defeat anu enimy but if he fought pien, he would loose.
[hr]

That could only work if it comes to the point were Naruto must give up his dreams of becoming Hokage for the sake of bringing peace to the world. I can see that being a reason why he doesn't become Hokage....or the other option is he gives up his life for peace....either one seems plausible...

if you ever read 666 saten then you will know when i say it is plausible. naruto's new goal is world peac. he hasnt said: my dream is to become hokage. i think kishi is trying to make us forget about his old dream and remind us of the new dream. and if you remember what jiraya said to naruto: if i die, it will up to you to do it. and it was jiraya's purpos to change the world (world peac) through his books. konan also said he is the flower of hope, also nagato, and yahiko's dreams are living in him. so it seems it is his new dream, he didnt talk about becoming hokage like his father when he saw minato. all they talked about was the ninja system not working. and as long as it (ninja system) exests there wont be world peac (it was said more then once). so i think naruto may sacrefic himself to make the ninja system (chakra, doujetsu.....) never be used agen.

[jdw]

asume said before he died taht shikamaru can become hokage, shikamaru proved that he can defeat anu enimy but if he fought pien, he would loose.



If Asuma said it, I will give weight to his words. He believed shikamaru has the potential to become Hokage, so it is settled that Shika has the potential to do it, but in the end potential often goes unfulfilled.

[Mr.Popo]

That could only work if it comes to the point were Naruto must give up his dreams of becoming Hokage for the sake of bringing peace to the world.
Wasn't Naruto real dream to be acknowledged by the villagers? and becoming Hokage only the way he thought was necessary to reach it?

[Arrogance]

Wasn't Naruto real dream to be acknowledged by the villagers? and becoming Hokage only the way he thought was necessary to reach it?
His dreams keep getting altered, the village has virtually already acknowledged him. He just saved the whole town, people are talking about him, and he's aknowledged to the point that even Danzou is worried about him and is having Sai spy on him. I would call that goal accomplished. His next goal then was to be Hokage. And Now his newest goal is to continue Jariaya's plan of achieving world peace. He also promised to Pain that he would also achieve world peace, I would now say world peace has officially been added to Naruto's list of thins he wants to accomplish before he dies, lol.

[nianiote]

Naruto can do like Gaara: from Gennin right to Kage.

[Mr.Popo]

His dreams keep getting altered, the village has virtually already acknowledged him. He just saved the whole town, people are talking about him, and he's aknowledged to the point that even Danzou is worried about him and is having Sai spy on him. I would call that goal accomplished. His next goal then was to be Hokage.
Yes i would say his greatest goal in live (being acknowledged) is accomplished, but as i said: becoming Hokage was IMO the way to achive that goal (in Naruto's eyes), that is now no longer really necessary.
But he promised some people to become Hokage so i think that goal is still valid, but was never his dream in the first place.

And sorry, but I can't talk about Naruto's current motivations because i stopped reading after Pein's death.

But to sum it up i think Naruto will be genin forever.

[DARK]

Nope, there is plenty going on right now for Naruto to take the Chunin Exams (and Jonin Exams if there are one).
I don't see the need for him to become any of those ranks. If anything, he will be elected Hokage. He has the power and the support of the villagers to do so.

[Drmke]

Naruto can do like Gaara: from Gennin right to Kage.

Was it ever said that Gaara jumped from Genin to Kazekage?

I don't remember it saying, but I was under the impression that he probably became a Jonin like Kankuro and Temari and had only been Kazekage for a short amount of time before the start of Part 2.

[DARK]

It was not mentioned that Gaara became a Chunin or Jonin like his siblings. He most likely did, considering his talent and would have been paired with the siblings to take the test anyway. Any village who will willing to place a Genin, let alone a Jinchuriki whom they tried to kill and use as a weapon, as their Kage must be very desperate.

[Shadoguardian]

I doubt Naruto's going to take the Chunin exam (let alone a Jonin exam) until Akatsuki is officially done for. After all, openings like that would be perfect for Akatsuki to penetrate and kidnap Naruto (as Orochimaru demonstrated).

[misterchaos]

i think naruto is going to be jounin (passes chunin) and then hokage :D

[Arctigor]

I think naruto won't be a jounin, not even a chunin. He is already a hokage-level ninja 'cuz he learnt how to use the sage mode. Also Shikaku said to Shikamaru that in sage mode he is on another level. So he became so powerful that even the jounins listen to him.

[kkck]

I doubt naruto will attain a higher position for the time being. Danzo wants to restrain naruto´s movements and giving him a promotion would entitle him to lead people into more dangerous missions and expand his fame throuh the village. Naruto will stay a measley gennin for a while.

[ganjabuss]

in chunin exam naruto said that he'll be hokage even if he is a genin for the rest of his life.....that's what will happen 10000000% guarenteed...

[Daneb]

xD what do u think about, sasuke and naruto take the chunin exam together? with some rand ninja, or maybe konohamaru? xD
naruto and sasuke, use kirin, FRS, 1000 sage clones in the forest of dead xD
i laugh my balls of at the mom^^
edit: i forgot amaterasu <.< wuahhahaha

[DARK]

Nope, he'll probably ascend to the Kage Level just as we have assumed Gaara had.

[Gingitsune]

There's two hint that Gaara made it to chuunin title, 1) Shikamaru said: "the only one of us who did make it to chuunin is you."　（ch. 247 (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/247/06/)), second the third databook state "became chuunin at 14" for Gaara. Although, that would means Suna was without kage for a year and a half. o.O

Anyway, nothing prevent Konoha to name Naruto chuunin honoris causa, then jounin, then Hokage on the same day.

Edit: It would be a major shock for Naruto if Konohamaru became chuunin before he do. ^_^

[M3J]

I doubt Naruto would be shocked if Konohamaru became chuunin way before Naruto. If Naruto took the exam again, then he most likely would, but he'd work harder.
Naruto might become a chuunin, I can't see him go any further without promotion. If he doesn't travel the world like Jiraiya.

[ashher]

This is what Shino has got to say:

"I don't think Naruto is gonna take Chuunin/Junin exam.
Why?
Cause Naruto is already better than those ranks.
Also chunin exam is just new innovation for substituting wars.
Before its introduction,there were chunins.So its not exactly a must for a nin to take those exams for promotion.
And also,kishi-sensei has got enough on his plate(like showing my new powers)than to repeat that old boring stuff.He and I do not like to repeat ourselves"

There you have it,folks.

[juUnior]

There's two hint that Gaara made it to chuunin title, 1) Shikamaru said: "the only one of us who did make it to chuunin is you."　（ch. 247), second the third databook state "became chuunin at 14" for Gaara. Although, that would means Suna was without kage for a year and a half. o.O
Thx for that info xD
Wow, I thought about this:

Any village who will willing to place a Genin, let alone a Jinchuriki whom they tried to kill and use as a weapon, as their Kage must be very desperate.
I thought they were desperate, really :p

So, Suna for a year and a half could have had.. a substitute someone for the Kazekage title. Methinks this because of the statment by Samui, who wanted some representative of Hokage to read the letter and give her answer while the real Hokage is in coma. That would probably be the case with SunaGakure.

About the promotion of Naruto. Maybe I miss sth, but I always wanted to see, how someone become a "Jounin"; you know, it was stated that there and here someone was promoted to be a jounin, but why? <in KG Kakashi was promoted by his talents probably, and furthermore it was "war zone" time>, Neji and other sand siblings are jounins, but that's all we know. What I'm saying is it would be good, if Naruto in some way was promoted to jounin, and we saw how it was done, what was said, etc. <or any other character, but Naruto suits well>
btw. sorry, if this was in some databook ^^

[beltranl]

I think we all now for sure tha Naruto will never be promoted to chuunin/jounin. The truth is the only person Naruto has ever truly worked with as a team was Sasuke. Besides that he is to hard headed and does things out of emotion, he never really thinks things through. To this point when it came to very serious bad people he always beat him on his own thanks to the nine tails. Really the only bad guy I have seen naruto really beat without using the nine tails was Kakuzu and even that I feel was written in Naruto's favor. Even pain, if it wouldn't have been for Hinata's unfortunate stabbing that made Naruto go beserk. Pain would had definitely won. He let's his emotions get in his way to much to ever be a triumphant chuunin and jounin. I could see him going straight to hokage because people think that he is strong and will probably get stronger so if a bad guy comes (let's face it a bigger threat than Madara,Kabuto, and the akatsuki will never come again) he will just easily kill him with his overwhelming power.

[mattiaildivino]

o yeah I've been thinking for a long time about this. I answered (me :D) : now that the world is united there will be chunin exams yet?maybe it will be but in a different way,remember what Hiruzen Sarutobi said. the Chunin exam exists to improve villages' relationships.
However,I think that Naruto will be promoted chunin,or even Jonin after this war,for his merits/credits,do you see?

[Rikudou Sennin]

"Even if I stay a genin forever, one day...I will be Hokage!" (Uzumaki Naruto)

I think this says everything.

[mattiaildivino]

"Even if I stay a genin forever, one day...I will be Hokage!" (Uzumaki Naruto)

I think this says everything.

Ahah you Are right but that time he passed the exam ;). It would be too bad if he became hokage like a genin...

[Richo]

Ahah you Are right but that time he passed the exam ;). It would be too bad if he became hokage like a genin...

there has to be a first no?
I suspect he will indeed never be promoted, because there will never be time for it or the story will end by that which would result in a automatic promotion to hokage for naruto....

[mattiaildivino]

it's obvious that Naruto and Bee is going to partecipate in the war. I think Naruto,because of his strength, will save a lot of people and the world will understand that he's able to become a leader(so a chunin) and he will be promoted even jonin!

[DementedKirby]

What is needed to become a jounin?

[tret16]

i believe that it was stated that there was a test that needs to be taken to become a jounin. just not the same type of test as the chuunin one... If i had to guess it's just a test you take on your own, so like maybe you fight another jounin one on one to proove your skill or perhaps you just do a performance so to speak to show your qualified.

[xXan]

I think we all now for sure tha Naruto will never be promoted to chuunin/jounin. The truth is the only person Naruto has ever truly worked with as a team was Sasuke. Besides that he is to hard headed and does things out of emotion, he never really thinks things through. To this point when it came to very serious bad people he always beat him on his own thanks to the nine tails. Really the only bad guy I have seen naruto really beat without using the nine tails was Kakuzu and even that I feel was written in Naruto's favor. Even pain, if it wouldn't have been for Hinata's unfortunate stabbing that made Naruto go beserk. Pain would had definitely won. He let's his emotions get in his way to much to ever be a triumphant chuunin and jounin. I could see him going straight to hokage because people think that he is strong and will probably get stronger so if a bad guy comes (let's face it a bigger threat than Madara,Kabuto, and the akatsuki will never come again) he will just easily kill him with his overwhelming power.

So ? The Kyuubi is his power. A power that Naruto had to sacrifice to much for. His parents, all the jutsus and teachings a parent can do (he could have grown up as wise and smart as Minato for all we know), the kyuubi messes up his chakra and can't do any find tuning with it (because he constantly needs to keep kyuubi at a distance).
Imagine a Naruto that Minato and Kushi wold have educated how would have end up, what jutsus he would knows and stuff.
Imagine Naruto with Hiraishin no Jutsu and teleporting about 1 shoting all the Pein's with those huge rasengas before they could do anything. Also don't tell me Pein is going to dodge them when even Madara got hit.

Conclusion ? Naruto had to pay at least as much power to get the Kyuubi as how much power he is getting from it.

Naruto would be a GREAT leader. He can inspire people and lead them better then any other Hokage. A great leader is not one who kills his emotions. Naruto will change the world by using those emotions (the teme of the manga).
If he was a cold, calculated individual right now all the people in Konoha would be dead because he would have never forgiven or gave another chanse to Pein.

[katon_style]

the problem here is who will promote him?who is stronger than him in konoha?naruto is stronger than the hokage to have a promotion into a chunin/jounin by her.he will be promoted directly a hokage when the time will come or maybe it will be created a title greater than a kage example rikkudo and naturo will be the shodai "title"

[kidopitz27]

naruto will stay genin look when he is fighting major enemies the power gap between them is like naruto being of course genin and his enemy being 2xpowerful jounin so even naruto becomes a chunin he's enemiy will be more like think that naruto is a newbie

[mattiaildivino]

mmm I think he will be decisive for the war,so for the credits,the world will promoted him chunin(before) and jonin(after). It would be the first time in the story that a ninja is promoted chunin and jonin in the same time,well maybe Gaara and someone else,but who knows?

[THM Nindo]

I think there's should be a special episode with Naruto going to pass the Chunnin exam!
That would be hilarious!!

And beside... wouldn't he still fail the written exam!? :tem

[TeamKonohamaru]

I believe naruto is a chuunin. The bell test he took after he returned definately seemed like a qualification test plus he been treated like a chuunin since he's been back
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Also sasuke a jonin of the sound village and shikamaru is jonin

[M3J]

Naruto would be a GREAT leader. He can inspire people and lead them better then any other Hokage. A great leader is not one who kills his emotions. Naruto will change the world by using those emotions (the teme of the manga).
If he was a cold, calculated individual right now all the people in Konoha would be dead because he would have never forgiven or gave another chanse to Pein.

Can he really lead people? I sound like a very broken record, but I have yet to see Naruto actually be a true leader. He can inspire and motivate people, he can change people for the better, but can he actually use people to the best of their abilities? Only time I ever saw him work with someone else was with Sasuke, maybe with Sai, Sakura, and Yamato as well, but those were his teammates.

When he went to rescue Sasuke at end of Part I, it was Shikamaru leading the team, and he trusted his comrades to fight on their own and win. Can Naruto do this as the leader, do what's best instead of what he wants? What if he's in a similar situation as Shikamaru? Will he be able to do what's best and have them fight on their own so they can go ahead, or will he make the wrong choice somehow due to lack of faith on his members' abilities to win? I just see Naruto taking on all the enemies rather than give his allies a chance, but Pain was a different enemy so it might not be fair to just use that fight.

To me, until we see him actually trust his teammates to handle their own and be a good team leader, not just as source of inspiration, then he may be promoted. That's the only thing, if not the main thing, that's holding him back.

That is, if he is gonna be promoted or considered for promotion. <_<

[THM Nindo]

I believe naruto is a chuunin. The bell test he took after he returned definately seemed like a qualification test plus he been treated like a chuunin since he's been back
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Also sasuke a jonin of the sound village and shikamaru is jonin

No, Naruto is still a genin.
And Sasuke is not a jonin of the sound village.

Sasuke is still a genin too...

But, I think that both of them just really don't care about position...
And, in any case, it's not like the village would treat them as genin.

Everyone in the village know that Naruto is the strongest and people were already thinking of him as the next Hokage when Tsunade was down.

[nat]

Agreed, for ninjas of the caliber of Naruto and Sasuke, rank does not apply. Nor does it matter, they already reached a notoriety by name. And their skill is already praised by warlords. Besides, people already follow them blindly, think Konoha people drooling over Naruto's pecs victories.

ps: Also since it's a time of war, I guess ranks get messed up. IIRC, Kakashi said during his childhood a bunch of people got early promotions coz konoha wanted jounins/squad leaders on the front. Maybe the alliance will start giving away ranks like candy, except for Naruto...Since it's shounen manga and the old formula dictates that he stay that way. The messiah who is a gennin.

[Darui Jonin]

I think Kishi have to make a Jonin already he deserved so please Kishi do it...

[Nonlife]

(Well hell freezes over.) Maybe there'll be no need for ranks anymore now that everyone (samura and shinobi) are united.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

In I think the only thing Naruto really cares now is becoming Hokage, so it isn't that important for him to become Jonin, but in fact he really is on Jonin's level now. It's a bit strange that he is the strongest person in the village, but is only Genin.:)

[Nonlife]

We're talking about a rank ABOVE Chunin - which is the first rank where ninjas are expected to lead/maintain a team on actual ninja missions. As much as its canon that people believe in Naruto now, I still wouldn't want him to be MY leader. (

[THM Nindo]

We're talking about a rank ABOVE Chunin - which is the first rank where ninjas are expected to lead/maintain a team on actual ninja missions. As much as its canon that people believe in Naruto now, I still wouldn't want him to be MY leader. (

Okay, let's see it that way:

Chunnin : Leading a team of Genin

Naruto is definitely there.

I'd rather being lead by Naruto, than by some weakling like Kiba, Ino or Hinata somehow are already Chunnin.

Naruto is certainly good enough to be Chunnin.

Jonin : Train genin, lead a team of Chunnin

We already know that Naruto has what it takes to train genin, since he's been training Konohamaru for a long time already.

As for leading a team of chunnin, like I said earlier, some Chunnin are actually weakling, and I can totally see Naruto being their leader.

Naruto is almost ready to lead the freaking village!!
Everyone trusts him and that's the most important thing for a leader.

Kage : Lead the whole village

Not quite there yet.
He has the power, but not the brains for the job right now.

Although, if he had some people around him to help him with his decision (Shikamaru, Sakura), he would be ready for the job already, IMO.

We already know that he has the vote of confidence by the people, and the Jonin.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

THM Nindo
Totally agree with you. He is strong enough to be at least Jonin and also has enough to be a teamleader leading both Genins and Jonins, cause he not only needs to make plans, but also to protect his teammates. At least he will clearly be better leader than the majority of Genins, exept maybe Shikamaru.
Also Naruto can train. He isn't that good in theory, but he explained to little Konohamaru how to make Rasengan! And that is quite a fit, cause not that many people in the ninja world can actually make it and also it's even more difficult to explain for a little boy how it works. I'd say that even though it's a bit too early for him to actually teach someone formally, but he is clearly at the level to be a Jonin.:)

[Nonlife]

I still think he doesn't fit the "tactful" category, like Shikamaru &...ugh....Sasuke.

[Raicrune]

Would be funny if at the end of the manga when the elders are going to promote him: Naruto.. from now on.. you are a...... chuunin.

others and Naruto: NANIIIII!?

[Zancrow]

is it me or has it been a loooong time since naruto said he was going to be the next hokage ? maybe becoming hokage is currently at the back of his mind and is focusing on becoming stronger to protect konoha and rescue/defeat sasuke ..

[Ochiru]

He already is the strongest Genin ever but I think he will jump right oof from the Genin rank into Hokage simple as that and well it would be rather funny plot twist if you can even count that as a plot twist that is

[pimp naruto kun]

Naruto should at least be Chunin at this point. I mean after his recent tactical showings he should at least be acknowledged. Naruto would have no competition if he ever took the Chunin exam. Also people constantly bring up leadership and other qualities but other than being slightly stronger than part 1 none of the rookies besides maybe shikamaru and neji, are excellent leaders. People just hold ridiculous standards and expectations for being a chunin only when it comes to Naruto. Half the people in the series who are chunin are fodder yet people say Naruto isn't ready?

[Naruto_Rasengan]

When people like Shikamaru and Shikaku are willing to follow Naruto you know he is doing something right.

[Quantized]

wow, this really is an old topic haha
and the issue remain, when will Naruto get promoted huh...

My guess is that the story is far from over, that this isn't leading up to the final battle as it may seem, but up to a big and very fat "reset" to this big event / battle. Many big things could happen, like Madara actually succeeding with his plans!

I really hope Kishi got the guts to actually make a villain succeed with his plans for once, too many stories end in a big fat cliché of the hero saving the world right before the villain ever get to show what world they were trying to create! Come on, I want to see it! :tem

If this ever happens, and Naruto looses the Kyuubi, I could imagine a "under world group" consisting of remaining strong ninja's resisting Madara, Tsunade and Naruto being among them.

Tsunade could train Naruto as a Senju (she possibly holds a great deal of knowledge that we don't know about), and eventually, promotes him despite that Konoha has temporarily lost it's independence.

Heck, sounds a bit too much like fan fiction, but now I gave my version :sweat

[hyper_megaman]

please

naruto has the brute strength/chakra but he doesn't have the brains

he's just a walking bomb. bombs can't be jonins can they

his strategising skills are genin/chunin at best

[Ryuma00]

please

naruto has the brute strength/chakra but he doesn't have the brains

he's just a walking bomb. bombs can't be jonins can they

his strategising skills are genin/chunin at best


well I'll say that he is higher level than genin/chuninin with strategy skills.
He sure is dumb sometimes, like for example few chapters ago in 551 when he already knew about Nagatos's ninjutsu absorbing ability and he used rasengan against him :D
But when you consider his battles against Kakuzu, six paths of Pain or like he overcame the 3 raikage, he sure done well...
You can also add a battle strategy or I may say battle preparation when he came up with idea to use kagebunshin to use senin mode multi-times...

Of course I don't think he is at shikamarus, jirayas, some kages and maybe some other powerful characters (like Madara ...) level yet but he (often) uses better strategies than majority of characters in the series.

[hyper_megaman]

a one-off does not a character trait make

winning pain was just from pure stamina and luck and the fact that he had the demon fox

winning raikage was just a 1 off so far

note how his 'strategy achievements' are so far and few in between?

a genin is a ninja that's graduated with basic skills but are still unable to function on their own and require someone to lead them

a chuunin is someone that's already independent for the most part, and can function on his own, but still can't lead others

a jyonin is a ninja that's so well established and so good at thinking he not only can think for himself independently, he can also make decisions for others, thus they're given groups of genins to lead

a kage has to make decisions day in/out to lead entire villages

naruto is genin at best. his brute force allows him to be independent (frickin hard to be killed when u have the stamina of an uzumaki and a demon fox within you), so he might be considered 'independent', but he sure as hell isn't ready to take up any sort of mantle of leadership


i really dunno where kishi is trying to go with naruto. post-jiraiya-training was disappointing enough, naruto keeps showing how lacking he is time and again... and somehow everyone in there just sucks up to him and admires him

---> reminds me of how superman is in dc. annoyingly revered just because he's the titular character/company mascot




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let's apply this to an analogy of how many people a marksman can kill

people are given different numbers of bullets(stamina equivalent). the average genin has an average magazine with 6 rounds. his accuracy rate is around 50%, so he hits 3. genins can't function on their own like that, they'd be wasting bullets

the average chuunin has an average magazine with 8, and hits with an accuracy of 75%, so he hits 6. pretty decent.

the aveage jonin has around 10, with an accuracy rate of 80%, so he hits 8 shots.
each jonin is given 3x6 rounds from 3x genin, so he helps them line their shots, giving their 18 rounds an accuracy rate of around 14 instead of the 9 they would have hit by themselves


the average kage has around 12 rounds, with an accuracy rate of 85%, so he hits at least 10 shots
kages maintain their accuracy rate while they help coordinate jonins with genins, and train some jonins by helping them line their shots for greater accuracy.

naruto has a frickin minigun with 500 rounds. his accuracy rate is at best 0.2%. once in a while he manages to hit 10 people with his entire clip
does that make him a kage equivalent in marksmanship kills? at best yes. but consistently? hmm
can he lead genins in combat, line up their shots? NO. .2% accuracy on 6 rounds per clip = no hits at all.
can he coordinate jonins, and help them line their shots? hell no
just because he can hit 10 targets, like the average kage, is he as good a marksman as they are? hell no.

i don't see what kishi is doing

dragonball was about a guy with the guts and determination and the consistency. u're talking a bout someone maybe with an accuracy rate of 80% with a clip of 6 constantly trying to fight guys with accuracy rates of 60% with clips of maybe 10 rounds.
one piece is especially so. that's the underdog of the story that u're rooting for, seeing him surpass the idiots who don't deserve their power


naruto? the titular character IS the idiot who doesn't deserve his power