View Full Version : Team Team 7(old school) Vs Pain and Konan
PitchBlack857
June 24, 2008, 06:52 AM
As it is right now if this was to take place who wins? This means at their current power level :eyeroll
Sasuke,Sakura,Naruto and Kakashi vs Pain and Konan
bean
June 24, 2008, 06:58 AM
if it's gennin team 7, pein and konan wins...or should i just say pein. no offense, but that's a dumb match up. If you're talking about present day team 7 and not pretimeskip 7, they might have a small chance, but pein would still win.
PitchBlack857
June 24, 2008, 07:16 AM
@ BEAN, When I say old school I meant the team as it use to be, No Sai or Yamato, the original. Im talking about everyone at there current power levels.
To answer my own question I think, Team 7 wins this. Sasuke and Kakashi both have the MS, Naruto's the shadow clone master and Sakura can heal with the best of them. Kakashi and Sakura should be more than enough for Konan, while Naruto and Sasuke both at full strength together could handle Pain from what we've seen so far. 2 or 3 tail's Naruto shadow cloning his ass off, using frog summons and rasengans. While Sasuke uses His new MS,snake summonings,chidori and multiple jutsu's could beat Pain. Granted Pain probably has more ability's we've yet to see.
gfire2
June 24, 2008, 07:34 AM
as of now, pain and konan would win hands down. pain killed jiraiya, jiraiya is a guy who could pwn team 7 and kakaishi (hell u can throw in tsunade and orochimaru and he would still win)
they would all end up with their pants down running away
Oblivion
June 24, 2008, 10:01 AM
as of now, pain and konan would win hands down. pain killed jiraiya, jiraiya is a guy who could pwn team 7 and kakaishi
oh so true
(hell u can throw in tsunade and orochimaru and he would still win)
oh so NOT true^^
Pain's Summon alone would be too much to handle for them.
Chidori, Rasengan and alike all fail at the Absorbing guy.
Naruto cant some from a dead spot with any of his Bunshins, coz Pain has none...
They might have a chance if they know just what they are about to face. but not knowing what each of the Pain's body can, they will lose pretty sure.
ninjabot
June 24, 2008, 11:14 PM
^No. This is what happens when summons are used around/against Sasuke:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/363/11/
Even one massive summon will be turned against Pein; used to counter his other giant summons until Sasuke gets close.
And I'm sure Sakura and Naruto will do something besides watch Sasuke be awesome. Not much, but look at it this way: Absorbing Pein absorbs jutsu. Not pure chakra, as far as we know. He can't endure the attacks from 3 tail Naruto, nor can he absorb Susanoo's totsuka, or Sasuke's Kusanagi. Now, what if Sasuke used his Sharingan not to supress the Kyuubi...but enhance it's influence over Naruto? Not saying he can...but it's not entirely impossible. MS controls the Kyuubi, so I won't rule that out.
So we've got a bunch of giant frogs fighting Pein's giant summons, Sakura to tear Konan's paper apart, and Sasuke to umm...be Sasuke. I mean, Long Hair Pein is probably just a body specifically designed for Taijutsu from what I've seen. Taijutsu vs. Sharingan = autofail unless you're rediculously fast. Pein would have to atleast be Itachi's speed to get the drop on Sasuke (he isn't). Absorbing Pein can't absorb Genjutsu, and on top of that, since all the bodies share eyesight, Sasuke or Kakashi would only need to genjutsu one of the bodies inorder to render them all stupified.
Csdabest
July 03, 2008, 11:05 AM
Technically Speaking. Sasuke with Prep would hold his own for awhile and with the kiss of kishi he can win. But Sasuke with prep plus team and Sasuke and co have a huge chance at taking down Pein. Specialy if they know his secret.
Sasuke is atleast now.
Itachi>>Sasuke>>=Orochimaru.
Thing that was setting Sasuke and Itachi so far apart was Experience and MS. MS is in his possession(most likely has something between EMS and MS) and Sasuke is gaining experience fast. S-class after S-class and winning with his Sharingan wide open. Now about to take on 8 tails. By the end of the manga Sasuke will be able to w/o pis solo all characters in naruverse.
Forever_Melody
July 03, 2008, 11:32 AM
and on top of that, since all the bodies share eyesight, Sasuke or Kakashi would only need to genjutsu one of the bodies inorder to render them all stupified.
Just this detail bugs me. Genjutsu is by definition, an infection of chakra systems. Pein has 6 bodies, therefore 6 chakra systems. As far as I know, genjutsu doesn't spread like disease, it affects everyone or it doesn't.
The way I see it, a minimum of 6 genjutsus would be needed to trap all 6 bodies. If only one was caught, I'd take it it'd be like Pa toad said, Pein's vision is like small security cameras. If one was caught in genjutsu, one "camera" would show something different from the other 5 and he could just chose to ignore it.
Anyways, I wouldn't really say much since we know very little of Pein at this point.
Suzuku
July 03, 2008, 12:59 PM
Pein solos. Their only hope is Sasuke and I doubt even he could stand up to Pein full power as he is now. And I don't count his MS because he hasn't mastered it.
mattiaildivino
January 17, 2011, 03:22 PM
at that time Pain would have owned them,but after some mangas,they would have won against him. and if they fought now...they would own them.
Mack
January 17, 2011, 04:03 PM
Hmmmm, Naruto by himself already defeated Pain. Konan is no big deal, Kakashi can take her out in no time.
As a bonus we have EMS Sasuke and Sakura as a support.
Easy to solve, team 7 definitelly wins
edit: damn, it is an old topic....
Prince Sasuke
January 17, 2011, 04:13 PM
Hmmmm, Naruto by himself already defeated Pain. Konan is no big deal, Kakashi can take her out in no time.
As a bonus we have EMS Sasuke and Sakura as a support.
Easy to solve, team 7 definitelly wins
Team seven wins,but not the way you see it.
Even after Pain was handicapped, full knowledge of his powers, help from Minato,Toads and Hinita, Naruto still would've died in Pain wanted to kill him instead of capture. So if you think Naruto can defeat Pain think again.
Also, I'm not so sure if Kakashi can defeat Konan, i think he would need Sakura for support.
Naruto and Sasuke would defeat Pain under any circumstances.
Mack
January 17, 2011, 04:51 PM
Team seven wins,but not the way you see it.
Even after Pain was handicapped, full knowledge of his powers, help from Minato,Toads and Hinita, Naruto still would've died in Pain wanted to kill him instead of capture. So if you think Naruto can defeat Pain think again.
Also, I'm not so sure if Kakashi can defeat Konan, i think he would need Sakura for support.
Naruto and Sasuke would defeat Pain under any circumstances.
We are talking about current power levels. With current power levels, Naruto would defeat Pain by himself, even if they were going one on one(six).
Prince Sasuke
January 17, 2011, 05:13 PM
We are talking about current power levels. With current power levels, Naruto would defeat Pain by himself, even if they were going one on one(six).
No he wouldn't, Naruto is practically the same shinobi that fought Pain. He is training on a Jutsu but its not finish. Kyuubi mode don't seem to make much of a difference since we don't much about it powers.
So no, Naruto would still lose..... by hjimself.
Mack
January 17, 2011, 05:15 PM
No he wouldn't, Naruto is practically the same shinobi that fought Pain. He is training on a Jutsu but its not finish. Kyuubi mode don't seem to make much of a difference since we don't much about it powers.
So no, Naruto would still lose..... by hjimself.
depends...
Prince Sasuke
January 17, 2011, 05:26 PM
depends...
Yea it depends on whether or not if Pain knows about Naruto abiites on how fast he would kill him. I'm sure Naruto will be much stronger,and could possibly defeat Pain by himself, but we can't prove that.
Just like Sasuke, we have to judge him from his last battle and powers displayed from his fight with Danzou. Yes he has EMS, but we have no ideal on what it can do.
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