patedecarne
July 04, 2008, 12:12 PM
Hi, Hi, How are you? As you can see, this review is up a little earlier this week, and by the time I’d finished it, I still didn’t eat anything, you know, just to make sure this time there won’t be any problems! And with this review, I’m bringing the newest section in my review: “And Now…”. In this section, I’ll be writing all my predictions involving the current events in the chapter. It’s a bit risky to make predictions inside the review itself, sometimes we can get out of the current context, but with this brand new section, I’ll be able to write every kind of prediction that could be pertinent, without messing the review. Still I don’t know where place it, then it’ll be placed after the “Summary” section, but if you come to think of a better place, I’ll change the place;
The scanlation used is from Binktopia
Naruto 407 - To Naruto
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4071.png
OOWW, You’re THE man, Naruto!
After a beautiful cover with Shiho, the chapter really begins, with Shikamaru, Shiho and Naruto trying to decipher the code. Shikamaru thinks the code was directed to Naruto, and in fact, Naruto was the most obvious choice: after his training with Jiraya, it’s natural to Naruto to know Jiraya so well, and later in the chapter, we can see why the code was addressed to Naruto. But in the middle of their thoughts, Naruto then found out the key. The first character wasn’t “9”, but instead it was the Katakana character “ta”! And from all the people involved in this mystery, the one responsible to break the code was Naruto, incredible!
And I must say I’m impressed that Naruto figured it out with such an ease: even with a cryptography group and Shikamaru working hard, Naruto has done the most difficult part. He can be a dumb one sometimes, but in the right moments, he’s very smart and intelligent. With these little details, Naruto is being great developed throughout these chapters, and let’s hope that Kishimoto keeps things this way. The code was addressed to him, but still he has his own merits for deciphering it. Naruto really has the potential to be a Hokage.
And regarding our newest nerd presented in the series, I’m surprised to see that Shiho is playing an active role in this investigation, which is a great thing, I’ll comment more about it later in the review, but these girls addiction at this point couldn’t be better, mainly in a series with only a few women! And just let’s hope that she could be a regular character after the investigation: She’s cool as Shikamaru, and probably she’ll be after him everytime from now!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4072.png
Just in time, Kakashi san!
Then, Naruto explains how he’d reached the conclusion that the character was a “ta”: Jiraya’s handwriting’s style is a bit different from usual, and Naruto was able to identity ii mainly because he has spent so much time with Jiraya, thus knowing his habits. Now, the first part of the code was decoded, so the group now must work in some pattern for the remaining part, and like Shiho had suggested, they could search in Jiraya’s book, and she was right in her guess. After all, the code was related with some book that Jiraya had written, but I think the things aren’t that simple: Ichi Ichi Tactics, the book who’s related with the code, was written during Naruto’s training; but in the prophecy, the great Toad sage said that Jiraya would write a book while traveling the world. Then why a book was mentioned in the prophecy when the code is related with a different book? The only suitable option here is that Jiraya kept traveling around the world, even in Naruto’s training; then, we could link the prophecy and the book in a coherent way, but I’m also thinking that could be something else, like I’ll comment later in this review.
And now, the always great Kakashi just saved time for them: while eavesdropping their conversation, he’d brought the “Icha Icha Tactics” book, because this book is the most obvious choice, notice the “Ta” from tactics. And so, Shiho is trying to find any pattern in the book. One thing I like about this code is that Kishimoto isn’t dragging this issue for so many chapters; instead he’s giving the answers to us just now. And we cannot forget about Kakashi’s facial expression: this book should be labeled above 18 years, and he’s a little embarrassed to read its contents; I love this comic Kakashi, and I was missing him so much! Then, Shiho was able to establish some connections between the 6 pages, though I have the feeling that it couldn’t be so simple: in the last chapter, the man from cryptography group said that Jiraya wouldn’t write a complicated and complex code right in the heat of the battle, and I think the same applies to the code’s meaning: Don’t you think that, at least, is weird to remember the first word from each page, and thus make a complete phrase with sense when you’re about the die? Anyway, I’m assuming they found the code’s meaning, or at least, some part of it…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4073.png
Is that the only pattern? Or could be something else?
And finally, one of the greatest mysteries on Naruto was revealed: Jiraya’s secret regarding Pain. I, for one, was so excited when I was re-reading the chapters with Jiraya vs Pain’s battle, and I was hoping to see something really shocking about the code. “The real one isn’t with them”, just a single statement with the potential to save the world. The revelation wasn’t that twist, is true, but it makes so much sense in the current context: Jiraya and Pa frog said that no one would be able to defeat Pain, no matter how hard they try. If the true Pain isn’t there, then every attempt to kill it will be useless. This could explain why Pain claims to be invincible, and even a God. Try to think about this scenario: without this information, Konoha would fight against Pain with full power, but in the end, all the efforts would be wasted. Yes, Jiraya’s death was really important in the context, and I must say that I’m glad to see a simple, but yet, important revelation regarding the powerful Pain.
While I think the message suits perfectly in the context, probably there’s more than meets the eye. Yes, the information was incredible helpful now, but it doesn’t say much aside the fact the real one isn’t with them. To find the real one, for example, is one of the greatest issues now, because no one has the slightly idea about his whereabouts. And we have another issue: All of Pain’s bodies came from ninjas that Jiraya had found in the past, and in the code there’s nothing related with that. He only found out Pain’s secret after recognize all the ninjas. I have so many theories about this, but for now, I’ll sticky with the most likely at this point: what was solved was just a part of the real code, because about Pain’s identity, it’s too vague at this point. And I don’t think Nagato is the real one: the blond Pain has said that he could barely remember Nagato’s name, and he also said that this person has died a long time ago. The only thing I know is that the puzzle isn’t 100 % solved yet. And I like so much all these new events, all these mysteries are part from ninja world! Either way, now Naruto and co. will after Tsunade and Pa frog to tell the code’s meaning, at least to them, now it’s impossible to fully understand why Jiraya had written it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4074.png
If 1 Pain is a pain to be defeated, then 6 Pains will be…
And speaking about Pain, it’s time to see him again in the manga, and this time,he’s in a meeting with Konan and Madara. It’s interesting to see that Madara is referring to Pain as “invincible”, which could show that Madara is aware from Pain’s powers. Madara ordering Pain to go immediately could mean that Madara is plotting to get rid from Pain as well. If the true Pain is hiding in some place, then Madara will send all the 6 peins while he could go for the real one.
Pain now has a replacement for that Pain defeated by Jiraya, and with this, now I’m really more convinced that my theory I’d written some time ago was right. You can see my theory here ( http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=668336&postcount=23), and in short words, Pain inherits the 6 realms’s powers. He needs exactly 6 bodies, no more, no less, and probably, each body has the power from one respective realm. Being true, then Pain is more than just a villain: he’s a mystical being, beyond the ninja’s comprehension. In fact, the Rinnegan is said to be more powerful that the Sharingan, I don’t think Kishimoto wrote this for nothing; and this is one of the reasons I like so much about Pain: the mystery surrounding his powers and eyes.
While I don’t think this new body has a strong relevance in the story’s context, there’s a possibility that the new body could be Kushina, Naruto’s mother. Let’s not forget that all of the 6 Pain’s bodies were people that Jiraya had encountered before, and then we can make the assumption that this new body has some connection with Jiraya. Jiraya was able to find out Pain’s true identity by his 6 bodies, so this new girl must be related in some way. And just like Yahiko was closer to Jiraya in the past, I think is safe to say Kushina also was closer to Jiraya, and her whereabouts until this present arc are unknown. Though we cannot say for sure if her appearance resembles that Kushina once we knew, or even if Pain’s bodies have some aging process, but Kushina being the new body would add more drama element in a likely Naruto vs Pain fight: fighting with his own mother he never had known will be too much to him, and we need further informations about Kushina, and I’m sure Kishimoto will explore this, soon or later. Either way, this new girl as a Pain body was a good addiction: through the years, Naruto always lacked when we talk about woman, more precisely strong nins, and with this new girl, I’m sure we’ll good actions involving her, which is a good thing!
***Key Points***
Pain’s new body is a woman
The code was decoded
Pain is really invincible without the real one
Summary
Great chapter, where we finnaly could see the truth about the code, or at least some part. Shiho in this chapter was another good thing, because she’s being vital in this development. A comic moment involving Kakashi was good too, and the new woman presented as a new replacement was another great thing here, I do want to see her fighting. While not a complete surprise that the real Pain isn’t among those 6 Pains, I think it’s a hint to show some powers from Rinnegan. And now seems that another imminent war is about to happen in Konoha!
And Now…
Pain and Konan are heading to Konoha right now, and even if they’re just a pair, Konoha doesn’t know the extensions of Pain’s powers, , and without any information about the real Pain, Konoha is in big and serious problem right now, mainly because he has the Rinnegan, and if the legends are true, his eyes will be a big problem. Even if Konoha has powerful warriors, Jiraya, probably the strongest among them, was defeated with such an ease by Pain, and of course Pain hadn’t used his full powers that time. Probably Naruto won’t be in Konoha by the time the attack happens, but Pain may be want to capture some people to extract information, and I’m sure Tsunade won’t let this go, and she could be a likely opponent to Pain, and I don’t think she can stand a match against him. In short words, I think Konoha is somehow condemned if Pain goes for real.
As for the code, probably must have another meaning, a deeper meaning, and I think Naruto, or something else will find out the truth a little late, after Pain’s destruction.
The scanlation used is from Binktopia
Naruto 407 - To Naruto
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4071.png
OOWW, You’re THE man, Naruto!
After a beautiful cover with Shiho, the chapter really begins, with Shikamaru, Shiho and Naruto trying to decipher the code. Shikamaru thinks the code was directed to Naruto, and in fact, Naruto was the most obvious choice: after his training with Jiraya, it’s natural to Naruto to know Jiraya so well, and later in the chapter, we can see why the code was addressed to Naruto. But in the middle of their thoughts, Naruto then found out the key. The first character wasn’t “9”, but instead it was the Katakana character “ta”! And from all the people involved in this mystery, the one responsible to break the code was Naruto, incredible!
And I must say I’m impressed that Naruto figured it out with such an ease: even with a cryptography group and Shikamaru working hard, Naruto has done the most difficult part. He can be a dumb one sometimes, but in the right moments, he’s very smart and intelligent. With these little details, Naruto is being great developed throughout these chapters, and let’s hope that Kishimoto keeps things this way. The code was addressed to him, but still he has his own merits for deciphering it. Naruto really has the potential to be a Hokage.
And regarding our newest nerd presented in the series, I’m surprised to see that Shiho is playing an active role in this investigation, which is a great thing, I’ll comment more about it later in the review, but these girls addiction at this point couldn’t be better, mainly in a series with only a few women! And just let’s hope that she could be a regular character after the investigation: She’s cool as Shikamaru, and probably she’ll be after him everytime from now!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4072.png
Just in time, Kakashi san!
Then, Naruto explains how he’d reached the conclusion that the character was a “ta”: Jiraya’s handwriting’s style is a bit different from usual, and Naruto was able to identity ii mainly because he has spent so much time with Jiraya, thus knowing his habits. Now, the first part of the code was decoded, so the group now must work in some pattern for the remaining part, and like Shiho had suggested, they could search in Jiraya’s book, and she was right in her guess. After all, the code was related with some book that Jiraya had written, but I think the things aren’t that simple: Ichi Ichi Tactics, the book who’s related with the code, was written during Naruto’s training; but in the prophecy, the great Toad sage said that Jiraya would write a book while traveling the world. Then why a book was mentioned in the prophecy when the code is related with a different book? The only suitable option here is that Jiraya kept traveling around the world, even in Naruto’s training; then, we could link the prophecy and the book in a coherent way, but I’m also thinking that could be something else, like I’ll comment later in this review.
And now, the always great Kakashi just saved time for them: while eavesdropping their conversation, he’d brought the “Icha Icha Tactics” book, because this book is the most obvious choice, notice the “Ta” from tactics. And so, Shiho is trying to find any pattern in the book. One thing I like about this code is that Kishimoto isn’t dragging this issue for so many chapters; instead he’s giving the answers to us just now. And we cannot forget about Kakashi’s facial expression: this book should be labeled above 18 years, and he’s a little embarrassed to read its contents; I love this comic Kakashi, and I was missing him so much! Then, Shiho was able to establish some connections between the 6 pages, though I have the feeling that it couldn’t be so simple: in the last chapter, the man from cryptography group said that Jiraya wouldn’t write a complicated and complex code right in the heat of the battle, and I think the same applies to the code’s meaning: Don’t you think that, at least, is weird to remember the first word from each page, and thus make a complete phrase with sense when you’re about the die? Anyway, I’m assuming they found the code’s meaning, or at least, some part of it…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4073.png
Is that the only pattern? Or could be something else?
And finally, one of the greatest mysteries on Naruto was revealed: Jiraya’s secret regarding Pain. I, for one, was so excited when I was re-reading the chapters with Jiraya vs Pain’s battle, and I was hoping to see something really shocking about the code. “The real one isn’t with them”, just a single statement with the potential to save the world. The revelation wasn’t that twist, is true, but it makes so much sense in the current context: Jiraya and Pa frog said that no one would be able to defeat Pain, no matter how hard they try. If the true Pain isn’t there, then every attempt to kill it will be useless. This could explain why Pain claims to be invincible, and even a God. Try to think about this scenario: without this information, Konoha would fight against Pain with full power, but in the end, all the efforts would be wasted. Yes, Jiraya’s death was really important in the context, and I must say that I’m glad to see a simple, but yet, important revelation regarding the powerful Pain.
While I think the message suits perfectly in the context, probably there’s more than meets the eye. Yes, the information was incredible helpful now, but it doesn’t say much aside the fact the real one isn’t with them. To find the real one, for example, is one of the greatest issues now, because no one has the slightly idea about his whereabouts. And we have another issue: All of Pain’s bodies came from ninjas that Jiraya had found in the past, and in the code there’s nothing related with that. He only found out Pain’s secret after recognize all the ninjas. I have so many theories about this, but for now, I’ll sticky with the most likely at this point: what was solved was just a part of the real code, because about Pain’s identity, it’s too vague at this point. And I don’t think Nagato is the real one: the blond Pain has said that he could barely remember Nagato’s name, and he also said that this person has died a long time ago. The only thing I know is that the puzzle isn’t 100 % solved yet. And I like so much all these new events, all these mysteries are part from ninja world! Either way, now Naruto and co. will after Tsunade and Pa frog to tell the code’s meaning, at least to them, now it’s impossible to fully understand why Jiraya had written it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto4074.png
If 1 Pain is a pain to be defeated, then 6 Pains will be…
And speaking about Pain, it’s time to see him again in the manga, and this time,he’s in a meeting with Konan and Madara. It’s interesting to see that Madara is referring to Pain as “invincible”, which could show that Madara is aware from Pain’s powers. Madara ordering Pain to go immediately could mean that Madara is plotting to get rid from Pain as well. If the true Pain is hiding in some place, then Madara will send all the 6 peins while he could go for the real one.
Pain now has a replacement for that Pain defeated by Jiraya, and with this, now I’m really more convinced that my theory I’d written some time ago was right. You can see my theory here ( http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=668336&postcount=23), and in short words, Pain inherits the 6 realms’s powers. He needs exactly 6 bodies, no more, no less, and probably, each body has the power from one respective realm. Being true, then Pain is more than just a villain: he’s a mystical being, beyond the ninja’s comprehension. In fact, the Rinnegan is said to be more powerful that the Sharingan, I don’t think Kishimoto wrote this for nothing; and this is one of the reasons I like so much about Pain: the mystery surrounding his powers and eyes.
While I don’t think this new body has a strong relevance in the story’s context, there’s a possibility that the new body could be Kushina, Naruto’s mother. Let’s not forget that all of the 6 Pain’s bodies were people that Jiraya had encountered before, and then we can make the assumption that this new body has some connection with Jiraya. Jiraya was able to find out Pain’s true identity by his 6 bodies, so this new girl must be related in some way. And just like Yahiko was closer to Jiraya in the past, I think is safe to say Kushina also was closer to Jiraya, and her whereabouts until this present arc are unknown. Though we cannot say for sure if her appearance resembles that Kushina once we knew, or even if Pain’s bodies have some aging process, but Kushina being the new body would add more drama element in a likely Naruto vs Pain fight: fighting with his own mother he never had known will be too much to him, and we need further informations about Kushina, and I’m sure Kishimoto will explore this, soon or later. Either way, this new girl as a Pain body was a good addiction: through the years, Naruto always lacked when we talk about woman, more precisely strong nins, and with this new girl, I’m sure we’ll good actions involving her, which is a good thing!
***Key Points***
Pain’s new body is a woman
The code was decoded
Pain is really invincible without the real one
Summary
Great chapter, where we finnaly could see the truth about the code, or at least some part. Shiho in this chapter was another good thing, because she’s being vital in this development. A comic moment involving Kakashi was good too, and the new woman presented as a new replacement was another great thing here, I do want to see her fighting. While not a complete surprise that the real Pain isn’t among those 6 Pains, I think it’s a hint to show some powers from Rinnegan. And now seems that another imminent war is about to happen in Konoha!
And Now…
Pain and Konan are heading to Konoha right now, and even if they’re just a pair, Konoha doesn’t know the extensions of Pain’s powers, , and without any information about the real Pain, Konoha is in big and serious problem right now, mainly because he has the Rinnegan, and if the legends are true, his eyes will be a big problem. Even if Konoha has powerful warriors, Jiraya, probably the strongest among them, was defeated with such an ease by Pain, and of course Pain hadn’t used his full powers that time. Probably Naruto won’t be in Konoha by the time the attack happens, but Pain may be want to capture some people to extract information, and I’m sure Tsunade won’t let this go, and she could be a likely opponent to Pain, and I don’t think she can stand a match against him. In short words, I think Konoha is somehow condemned if Pain goes for real.
As for the code, probably must have another meaning, a deeper meaning, and I think Naruto, or something else will find out the truth a little late, after Pain’s destruction.