View Full Version : Naruto Volume 45 (Ch. 413-422) Discussion
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 05:33 AM
Tsunade has decided something. to get naruto back to village
did kakashi summon some dogs @ walls o.0 ?
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 05:36 AM
great chapter!! i love it but where is team gai? XD
frankwhite4523
October 09, 2008, 05:42 AM
omg the raw is the bomb please translate
gold349
October 09, 2008, 05:42 AM
raw is out omg
naruto = ssj1 hair and ssj4 eyes
holy sh- he's using his clones to fly
and later on there'll be a fusion with FRS + sasuke's fire
the tailed beasts = the dragon balls
:p calm down :D. agreed, Naruto looks cool with red eye shading and fuka must have agreed to go into battle together if comes to it.
Kakashi, brilliant though he's already got stabbed once by Pain and counter jutsu his raikiri. Its start of the fight so I'm not gonna call that anything yet, all off konoha has noticed now....please please tell me that was that nins brain and isn't what Naagto has become?!!!!.
Mozgi
October 09, 2008, 05:47 AM
to get naruto back to village
He-he. That's obvious because it was in spoiler text. But what else and why she did it - nobody knows as it's unlogical
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 05:53 AM
He-he. That's obvious because it was in spoiler text. But what else and why she did it - nobody knows as it's unlogicalcalling a tailed beast to fight for you is the oldest strategy @ narutoworld
enka
October 09, 2008, 05:56 AM
No one thank you for it because about 98% of us dont agree with u that it will happen!
Why did 2 % of them thanks the other guy and not me :darn
This is no point discussing this topic on this thread is little bit OT.
The more important issue is RAW is out!
Mozgi
October 09, 2008, 06:01 AM
calling a tailed beast to fight for you is the oldest strategy @ narutoworld
And you're telling this when Naruto makes all possible and impossible to avoid using Fox power. IMO, it's wrong point.
Daneb
October 09, 2008, 06:01 AM
ohh man, that what i see is that kaka will get his ass beat off -.- and the black metal is really badass, or did u ever see that kaka miss with chidori?
about naruto: It seems that he end the frog-fu training, it seems that fuka gets a bit beaten by naruto^^ (about the bunshin end the last pic where naruto is heading fuka with a rising fist)
IMO, GOGO naruto vs pain!!!
enka
October 09, 2008, 06:01 AM
Here is what I think will happen:
Naruto gets called back.
Pein leaves with Naruto.
The new characters in Raikage's group rescue Naruto instead of Killer Bee.
Naruto makes new friends and meets Killer Bee.
Killer Bee trains Naruto to properly use his tailed beast.
This is just so good.
I "predict" this too, is have everything i want it to happen.
But if i am realistic all gonna not happen.
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 06:05 AM
And you're telling this when Naruto makes all possible and impossible to avoid using Fox power. IMO, it's wrong point.next time do not quote me, quote tsunade :p
gold349
October 09, 2008, 06:08 AM
The only thing that could have thrown kakshi like that and go against raikiri...lightning is weak against wind but it had to be something of a higher level than raiakiri to have over powered it, I have a feeling this body, Deva realm we will see use elemental manipulation.
Daneb
October 09, 2008, 06:14 AM
The only thing that could have thrown kakshi like that and go against raikiri...lightning is weak against wind but it had to be something of a higher level than raiakiri to have over powered it, I have a feeling this body, Deva realm we will see use elemental manipulation.
it seems a bit like wind, your right, but isnt it god realm?not deva,..or did i a mistake?
ok btw it will be the second element we see from yahiko-pain, the first one was his rain,maybe he (yahiko-pain) can use all the elements=).IMO its water elemen, i mean sasuke fires Fireballs into the skys and it start to rain to but,.....its sasuke.
enka
October 09, 2008, 06:22 AM
it seems a bit like wind, your right, but isnt it god realm?not deva,..or did i a mistake?
ok btw it will be the second element we see from yahiko-pain, the first one was his rain,maybe he (yahiko-pain) can use all the elements=).IMO its water elemen, i mean sasuke fires Fireballs into the skys and it start to rain to but,.....its sasuke.
Got me a little smile there. Got that impression you said that in despondent tone. Like..... it's Sasuke.... he can kick Chunk Norris....if he want (i know he can't) Everything is possible with sasuke
samsiufan
October 09, 2008, 06:44 AM
ohh man, that what i see is that kaka will get his ass beat off -.- and the black metal is really badass, or did u ever see that kaka miss with chidori?
about naruto: It seems that he end the frog-fu training, it seems that fuka gets a bit beaten by naruto^^ (about the bunshin end the last pic where naruto is heading fuka with a rising fist)
IMO, GOGO naruto vs pain!!!
Darn, I am at work and cannot access the RAW site..has anyone else got another site they can post it on?
It seems I am missing the best chapter ever...well almost...
Daneb
October 09, 2008, 06:46 AM
Got me a little smile there. Got that impression you said that in despondent tone. Like..... it's Sasuke.... he can kick Chunk Norris....if he want (i know he can't) Everything is possible with sasuke
yes it exact that what i mean :D.
hmm i wonder but, all the piercing in the pain-bodys are near to the senses, look closely, near the nose ears and mouth are the black metal.in everybody of them...somone post it a little back here but i agree him that this are dead bodys which were bringing to live through the black chakra metall magic weapon things xD (ofc with the rinnegan power in it^^)
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Darn, I am at work and cannot access the RAW site..has anyone else got another site they can post it on?
It seems I am missing the best chapter ever...well almost...
öhm, is it allowed to post it here? ican do it, i just wanna ask first =)
btw im at work,too.
deja vou of yesterday xD have a nice work day =)
allendsup23
October 09, 2008, 06:46 AM
Awesome chapter. I wonder if Kakashi summoned those Dog type things on the wall which is behind Pain. If he did, looks like we will see new moves from Kakashi. His fight with Pain has just started and I think he will be able to hold on his own. Ofcourse he cant defeat Pain. Rookie 9 are shown so I think it is time for them to get involved in the fight too.
Fukasaku looks happy with the way Naruto has progressed. His training with him looks to be finished. We will see those moves when Naruto fight Pain. Cant wait for those chapters.
One question. Ino Father's reaching that guy's brain and Fat pain launching something from his brain are at the same time. Are these events connectedto each other?
Darth Executor
October 09, 2008, 06:50 AM
it seems a bit like wind, your right, but isnt it god realm?not deva,..or did i a mistake?
god realm = deva realm
demon realm = asura realm
They seem to be used interchangeably. As far as I know, the other realms just have one word commonly used (hell, animal, human, hungry ghost).
I'm guessing they just call them god/demon realm for a western audience that has no idea what deva or asura mean.
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Darn, I am at work and cannot access the RAW site..has anyone else got another site they can post it on?
It seems I am missing the best chapter ever...well almost...
You're not (except I can't actually read it, maybe there's some decent info). I hope Pain has some sort of revelation for Kakashi. After all, he instantly recognized him.
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Awesome chapter. I wonder if Kakashi summoned those Dog type things on the wall which is behind Pain. If he did, looks like we will see new moves from Kakashi. His fight with Pain has just started and I think he will be able to hold on his own. Ofcourse he cant defeat Pain. Rookie 9 are shown so I think it is time for them to get involved in the fight too.
If Kakashi and god pain go all out one of them's gonna kick the bucket.
One question. Ino Father's reaching that guy's brain and Fat pain launching something from his brain are at the same time. Are these events connectedto each other?
That's not fat pain, that's potato pain. And I don't think so. Potato pain just causes the massive explosion that startle the 9.
samsiufan
October 09, 2008, 06:57 AM
öhm, is it allowed to post it here? ican do it, i just wanna ask first =)
btw im at work,too.
deja vou of yesterday xD have a nice work day =)
Post it anyway, what is the worse that can happen...they'll just delete the post if they don't like it...
Just want to see the Naruto training panels anyway..
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 07:00 AM
Post it anyway, what is the worse that can happen...they'll just delete the post if they don't like it...
Just want to see the Naruto training panels anyway..
u have access to megaupload or rapidshare?
pm sent
samsiufan
October 09, 2008, 07:03 AM
u have access to megaupload or rapidshare?
pm sent
None of that - all blocked, I guess I will have to wait until I get home....
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 07:16 AM
according to that chapter - naruto seems fine without fukasaku. I guess fukasaku is kind of like his guide right now if something goes wrong/
BTW - can anyone translate the raw?
Daneb
October 09, 2008, 07:20 AM
Post it anyway, what is the worse that can happen...they'll just delete the post if they don't like it...
Just want to see the Naruto training panels anyway..
i cant post it-.- dont know why, im sorry for =) u have to wait^^
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 07:23 AM
ahahah i love naruto;s reaction!!
makko
October 09, 2008, 07:24 AM
I'm not sure what Shikamaru told Tsunade, but its possible they found something out. Not major but something important about Pain. So that might be basis to bring Naruto back. Also, in the next page she has a thought of Naruto and focuses on the necklace... its possible that necklaces power can help... based on what Shikamaru just told her. So thats why she's calling him back if thats in fact what she's doing.
The Adamant Dragon
October 09, 2008, 07:25 AM
You gotta luv Kishi. Seriously, his art just keeps improuving. This chapter has just won the First place in my Most favorite chapters. The color design he chose for Naruto's eyes is simply extraordinary... Let's hope that when he gets his new Outfit (if He's granted any) it matches with his eye's colors, thus having some Red in it.
And Kakashi... Then Panel were he saves Iruka and Holds Pain's Blade while looking at him straight in the eyes is one of the most outstanding in this whole manga. <--- Okay, I'll stop with the Kishi props here.
Hope we get a translation soon.
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 07:29 AM
You gotta luv Kishi. Seriously, his art just keeps improuving. This chapter has just won the First place in my Most favorite chapters. The color design he chose for Naruto's eyes is simply extraordinary... Let's hope that when he gets his new Outfit (He's granted any) it matches with his eye's colors, thus having some Red in it.
And Kakashi... Then Panel were he saves Iruka and Holds Pain's Blade is one of the most outstanding in this whole manga. <--- Okay, I'll stop with the Kishi props here.
Hope we get a translation soon.
You know what i definitely agree- when i first saw he is going to have those markings on his eyes. My impression was "Great... not i wanted to see"
i hope he gets a new suit..does it say anything in this chapter? or do we know at all if he is getting a suit.. Yeah i think we need the translation
But kishi has shown us what it really looks like... and damn it looks good!
man i need a translation
HPTR Fangirl
October 09, 2008, 07:34 AM
You know what i definitely agree- when i first saw he is going to have those markings on his eyes. My impression was "Great... not i wanted to see"
But kishi has shown us what it really looks like... and damn it looks good!
Sorry for the one line post, where can I find the images of Naruto's eye markings and what not?
nigh7
October 09, 2008, 07:38 AM
Sorry for the one line post, where can I find the images of Naruto's eye markings and what not?
raw is up at the spoiler post
3shinkyo3
October 09, 2008, 07:43 AM
I don't really like naruto's red eye shadow thing looks silly! Guess i am just going to have to get used to it as i see it being used as much as the rasengan. Do you think he can only use 'frog' taijutsu whilst in hermit mode?
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 07:53 AM
Im just wondering - can the kyuubi help stable the state of the chakra - that naruto creates.
Example; Naruto creates sage chakra by absorbing nature chakra and stabilizing it.. and by that he creats sage chakra etc.... then can the kyuubi somehow help maintain the system of that chakra?
Because it appears you need two people for this hermit mode. Naruto already has two, Himself, and the kyuubi. And the kyuubi is part of him... since his own chakra(which is above normal by the way) is mixed with the kyuubi chakra.(thanks to the seal).
Examples of Bijuu Control:
example 1: Well if you think about it - when naruto gets angry or is out of control - that kyuubi chakra that is mixed within naruto own chakra gets crazy and overpowers naruto's own chakra - hence, naruto transforms to kyuubi state.
Another example(2) of this: When sasuke performed tsukiyomi on killerbee - it was useless because hachibi tapped killerbee out of it. So could Kyuubi help stabilize the sage chakra?
So naruto now.. needs to tame kyuubi and make that damn fox listen to him. "If" that happens, then kyuubi can stablelize the state of naruto's sage chakra
I mean it could be possible - dang it, only if naruto/kyuubi had the same relationship like hachibi/killerbee does. lol
the only reason im thinking this, is because fukasaku is old. I know he has a very long life-span, but once he dies - naruto needs another backup plan. The kyuubi? Make this one of my bold predictions.
patedecarne
October 09, 2008, 07:53 AM
OOHHHH, darn...
What a chapter... C'mon, Kakashi vs Yahiko was only, superb...
and yes, Yahiko is too much for Kakashi.. the fight has begun fair, but so far Yahiko has proven to be superior, and Kakashi's chakra is disrupting too due the black metals..
I don't know how much time left Kakashi can stand, but I guess it isn't so much time, because Yahiko isn't even fighting at full power..
Naruto is doing well too, but I don't think he can defeat Pain right now..
for last but not least important, Konoha!! The entiry city seems to be about to collapse, so much destruction...
Rotten The Wizard
October 09, 2008, 08:25 AM
Naruto still spamming KB, I'm not impressed...I'm annoyed actually.
When the hell is kishi gonna give naruto new stuff. Im tired of all this power and all he does with it is make kb's and use his weak taijutsu.
Kishimoto, I'm not impressed.
We havent seen kakashi really pwn since the Zabuza ark. Since then he's been the one getting owned... Pein already has him weak
The Closet Pervert
October 09, 2008, 08:25 AM
for last but not least important, Konoha!! The entiry city seems to be about to collapse, so much destruction...
Tsunade: "You're dealing with someone who's strong enough to keep Akatsuki in line"
Heh, all this destruction with "Diversionary Tactics". I wonder what kind of damage he would have done if he actually tried to destroy things. I'm starting to see why Pain's worthy of the title of "Destined Child Candidate". He's doing in matter of minutes what Madara has been trying to do for years! :kukuku
Anyway, I'm really glad that so many "named characters" are getting involved so early. I thought there was going to be more "nameless fodder killing" all chapter along, but I'm glad I was wrong!
This is the perfect time for Naruto to show-off to whole village what he has learned! It would really increase is popularity rating if he is able to put at least moderate amount of resistance to Pain! But the worst thing (for me) that could happen is that Naruto loses, gets captured and this is followed by some rescue arc. That would be a totally lame ending for all this. But I'm hoping for the best (=strong naruto) while prepearing for the worst :)
narutokuro
October 09, 2008, 08:25 AM
excellent chapter.
The only thing i would have liked was on page 6 where we see 4 dogs on the wall, i wished those dogs would have been a sealing justu by kakashi to "try" to hold Pein down. Turned out they were just statues. Oh well. Next couple of issues are a treat for us.
ShgnLW
October 09, 2008, 08:27 AM
Kishimoto screwed up in the colorpage: the three tails didn't had a host
Dhazard
October 09, 2008, 08:30 AM
Kishimoto screwed up in the colorpage: the three tails didn't had a host
Not at the time of his capture... However, we do not know if he was sealed back when the First Hokage decided to share the beasts among the countries.
ciardha1966
October 09, 2008, 08:37 AM
Pretty sure they know it already. Kakashi even said it out loud during the Sasuke "rescue" arc, saying Naruto is a jinchrukki and is a target. They seemed unphased by it.
Basically the same thing happened as does in superhero comics, once something is told to one of the hero's closest companions, by the next arc it's common knowledge amongst all of his or her friends, even ones they barely know. (Like Rogue's real name being Anna. Gambit finds it out during the course of a miniseries, and next issues of the regular X-men comics all the X-men are calling her Anna. Gambit's "the king of secrets" so he wouldn't have blabbed it, and he can block his thoughts from telepaths. She kept it secret for years, so we're never told how all the sudden everyone knows and are now calling her that name. We just have to guess she decided it was a silly secret to keep and just told them all or something like that.)
Atemu
October 09, 2008, 08:37 AM
I shouldn't have seen the raw today, now i have to wait for translation and that sucks. i really want to know what fukaso told naruto while they eat. I liked the eyes:) reminded me of ssj4
David Gill
October 09, 2008, 08:39 AM
Prepare for some badass Naruto arse kicking! Naruto will be shown as the the new Super power. Even though this reminds me so much of DBZ, i still love it. That's why Naruto is the name of the manga and the proud son of Minato. Expecting a close battle between Naruto and Pain. Naruto may have a disadvantage but remember he will be motivated and i just think that Tsunade might reveal the fact that Minato was his father which will act as a power booster.
narutokuro
October 09, 2008, 08:40 AM
I shouldn't have seen the raw today, now i have to wait for translation and that sucks. i really want to know what fukaso told naruto while they eat. I liked the eyes:) reminded me of ssj4
In the spoiler section it states something like, your training is not complete...blah..blahh...you can't use it in battle alone...we have to fight together. I'll defend while you charge up.
gold349
October 09, 2008, 08:47 AM
Im just wondering - can the kyuubi help stable the state of the chakra - that naruto creates.
Example; Naruto creates sage chakra by absorbing nature chakra and stabilizing it.. and by that he creats sage chakra etc.... then can the kyuubi somehow help maintain the system of that chakra?
Because it appears you need two people for this hermit mode. Naruto already has two, Himself, and the kyuubi. And the kyuubi is part of him... since his own chakra(which is above normal by the way) is mixed with the kyuubi chakra.(thanks to the seal).
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sage mode doesn't require 2 people to go into, its only the initial time that is required...leaves you open to attacks while staying still, therefore the extra person (fukasaku) will be needed in this instance, Pain just won't give him time to transform, where fuka comes in to stay of the attacks while Naruto prepares/goes into sage mode.
Naruto already has the balance down, he doesn't need kyubi to help him in that regard. Having sage mode now I think will be key to him being able to control kyubi chakra later on. He still has to complete 'that jutsu' with the key..sage chakra could be that stabilising force required to stop kyubi chakra overwhelming Naruto's own, IMHO that is where kishi is heading with this sage chakra thing who knows we'll see.
excellent chapter.
The only thing i would have liked was on page 6 where we see 4 dogs on the wall, i wished those dogs would have been a sealing justu by kakashi to "try" to hold Pein down. Turned out they were just statues. Oh well. Next couple of issues are a treat for us.
second that, Kakashi even if he gets beat, has scored major points from just the whole approach to Deva Realm Pain. I'm hoping it becomes a taijutsu and ninjutsu battle with many elements used, we have just had a taste of Deva Realm wind jutsu...it had to be of a real high calibre to offset/nullify/overpower raikiri. I said taijutsu as I want to see Gai pared with his rival kakashi, I want them to double team Deva Realm.
lan2cp
October 09, 2008, 08:55 AM
Naruto still spamming KB, I'm not impressed...I'm annoyed actually.
When the hell is kishi gonna give naruto new stuff. Im tired of all this power and all he does with it is make kb's and use his weak taijutsu.
Kishimoto, I'm not impressed.
We havent seen kakashi really pwn since the Zabuza ark. Since then he's been the one getting owned... Pein already has him weak
Well If you look when he's sparring with Fukasaku, you can tell they are actually fighting really high in the air. Also you can tell that he's keeping up with Fukasaku, that in itself being a real feat( Jiraiya admitted to being a tadpole compared to Ma and Pa Toad.) and he gains the advantage by adding kage bushin to the Frog taijutsu.
Also, doesn't Naruto in sage mode look a little bit like SSJ4 Goku? With the yellow eyes and red outlining.
http://www.ahww.or.jp/ani/goku/gt/goku_gt003.JPG
excellent chapter.
The only thing i would have liked was on page 6 where we see 4 dogs on the wall, i wished those dogs would have been a sealing justu by kakashi to "try" to hold Pein down. Turned out they were just statues. Oh well. Next couple of issues are a treat for us.
To me it looks like one of Kakashi's summons. When he dodges Pain's kick, you can see that he puts both hands in the ground.
The Adamant Dragon
October 09, 2008, 08:55 AM
hmmm, Now that I think About it, we're possibly about to see The "Kakashi Growing up/Major Revelation" that Kishi promised for this year in an interview and defined it as "Dark-Blue". Don't know what it has to do with Pain, but if there was a time to do it, now is the perfect Situation/time to.
Narosian
October 09, 2008, 08:57 AM
Anyone notice in a couple panels the no neck pains head opens up at the top and then theres a big explosion.
Atemu
October 09, 2008, 09:02 AM
In the spoiler section it states something like, your training is not complete...blah..blahh...you can't use it in battle alone...we have to fight together. I'll defend while you charge up.
What the..., what is with naruto and uncompleted power/technique? well naruto will definitely be stronger having the sage frog with him
gold349
October 09, 2008, 09:06 AM
Anyone notice in a couple panels the no neck pains head opens up at the top and then theres a big explosion.
It is said he shoots a lazer from his head/brain:s, he has some sick abilties. Just as Ino's dad got to the brain of the rain nin it all goes off outside. Shizune autopsy seems to have found something though. I'm not even sure why they was going into the brain of the rain nin, what was that to achieve?, that the rain nin knows him/of him? what would that do for taking Pain down?:amuse.
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 09:06 AM
sage mode doesn't require 2 people to go into, its only the initial time that is required...leaves you open to attacks while staying still, therefore the extra person (fukasaku) will be needed in this instance, Pain just won't give him time to transform, where fuka comes in to stay of the attacks while Naruto prepares/goes into sage mode.
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thats where your wrong. My post was based on the confirmed spoilers...It is said in the spoilers that naruto can only go into hermit mode for 5 minutes.
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仙人モードはフカサクはナルトに対しては制限時間は5分だそうです
naruto can only last in senin mode for 5 mins
naruto standing still would be fine. But if he is required to move and battle. he can only last for 5 minutes. Thats why i said - it seems like he needs two people. PLease read the spoilers better next time..
Atemu
October 09, 2008, 09:14 AM
thats where your wrong. My post was based on the confirmed spoilers...It is said in the spoilers that naruto can only go into hermit mode for 5 minutes.
naruto standing still would be fine. But if he is required to move and battle. he can only last for 5 minutes. Thats why i said - it seems like he needs two people. PLease read the spoilers better next time..
Does the spoiler picture say how long naruto have to wait until he goes to sage mode again? could it be because naruto have no experience in sage mode that he have time limits?
lvarella
October 09, 2008, 09:14 AM
I think I am very addicted to Naruto, tonight I had a dream where Sai was the real Pain!!! Crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
My prediction, Kakashi and Iruka will defeat God Pain but Iruka will die. Iruka's death will make Naruto grow.
Another group with Shino can Kill another bodie, the bugs feel the chakra and can show to them that the devices are chakra power.
Another group with Neji or Hinata can do the same, see the chakra and interrupt it.
Pain wil fail, but Konan probably will find out that Naruto is not there and when Naruto gets to Konoha Pain will not be there anymore.
ethantjai81
October 09, 2008, 09:20 AM
WTH kakashi can't even handle 1 pain -____- what happened to him!
Hmm the former three tail host was a water ninja.. with a big ass sumthing on his back, maybe a sword? > one of the seven swordsmen??
Sennin Naruto
October 09, 2008, 09:23 AM
lol. Kishi's team made a mistake on pg.6, or Pain just decided he wants to be a Konoha shinobi. At the bottom of the page he's wearing a Konoha headband. lol:p
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 09:23 AM
Cool kakashi stood his ground against pein. He actually missed pein with his raikiri cuz pein's weird weapon pierced kakashi and pein managed to disrupt his chakra just like he did jiraiya.
But I think kakashi is not out yet!!!
My hero can't be out for the count just yet!!! ( His probably the only sharingan user i don't want to see loosing a battle!!) IKEEEEEE KAKASHI!!!!! KILL AT LEAST 3 PEIN!!
Oh and I just went thru the spoilers trans......where do you guys read that naruto can only hold sage mode for 5 min????
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 09:24 AM
Does the spoiler picture say how long naruto have to wait until he goes to sage mode again? could it be because naruto have no experience in sage mode that he have time limits?
its simple common - knowledge my friend.
For one to concentrate and maintain the sage chakra is fine. But if he were to move around, and goes into battle. This disrups balancing the sage chakra. Thats why fukasaku is there.
Thats why i said, this is more like two people doing this. Naruto somehow needs to get the kyuubi to help him out, or he could let fukasaku help him out. Then again... it'd be nice to see naruto with two shoulders. lol
Kshunsui
October 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
thats where your wrong. My post was based on the confirmed spoilers...It is said in the spoilers that naruto can only go into hermit mode for 5 minutes.
naruto standing still would be fine. But if he is required to move and battle. he can only last for 5 minutes. Thats why i said - it seems like he needs two people. PLease read the spoilers better next time..
First of all read better, the spoiler you quote it's not confirmed, there is another spoiler above:
常に仙人化してても問題無さそうだしね
It's like there is no problem to stay in sage mode forever.
the only thing confirmed it's the weak spot of the sage mode, the spoiler you quote is fake to me
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
WTH kakashi can't even handle 1 pain -____- what happened to him!
Hmm the former three tail host was a water ninja.. with a big ass sumthing on his back, maybe a sword? > one of the seven swordsmen??
pain is a god. What do you expect?
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 09:28 AM
who are the two guys in page 18 at the bottom behind tsunade??
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the hidden cloud have two bijus in their village? Lol
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 09:30 AM
who are the two guys in page 18 at the bottom behind tsunade??
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the hidden cloud have two bijus in their village? Lol
yes - you didn't know that? In one of the chapters, the cloud people mentioned aboutit
Kshunsui
October 09, 2008, 09:31 AM
Naruto only need standing still for enter into sage mode, i dont' believe the sparring take only five minutes
snowdog
October 09, 2008, 09:36 AM
WTH kakashi can't even handle 1 pain -____- what happened to him!
Hmm the former three tail host was a water ninja.. with a big ass sumthing on his back, maybe a sword? > one of the seven swordsmen??
We dont know that yet, the battle has just started, but knowing Kakashi he probably has a few tricks up his sleeve to counter that blade that disrupted his chakra. I think he will hold his own until back up(most likely Gai) arrives.
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 09:37 AM
Naruto only need standing still for enter into sage mode, i dont' believe the sparring take only five minutes
sage mode standing still - naruto can do all the time.
But him moving disrupts the concentration. thats why he needs fukasaku on his side - hence the reason why fukasaku said he needs to be on naruto. (the only drawback)
Aizen Sama
October 09, 2008, 09:37 AM
That one guy in the last panel looks like that ANBU from when Sarutobi fought Orochimaru.
bean
October 09, 2008, 09:39 AM
I think kakashi has done a pretty good job so far, from what we've seen. He got one good bit of information already which he will most likely use to his advantage...that is, he knows pein can control or mess up his chakra with that black rod. And fuka and naruto high fived! haha, that's awesome.
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sage mode standing still - naruto can do all the time.
But him moving disrupts the concentration. thats why he needs fukasaku on his side - hence the reason why fukasaku said he needs to be on naruto. (the only drawback)
in the raw it shows naruto sparring with fuka while in hermit mode and he seemed to be doing fine...even making KBs without any side effects...
patedecarne
October 09, 2008, 09:40 AM
Kakashi already has used 2 raikiris, without effect, Raikiri is his greatest skill, but still was proven to be useless... Pain is really being portrayed as a God, thins about it: Kakashi is having serious trouble with just Yahiko, and still have left 5 Pains!
Not so sure if Konoha can stand up until Naruto's arrival...
Oh, and the most importan detail: Pain [b]doesn't want/b] to destroy Konoha, he's just chasing Naruto ^^
What if he was for serious about destruction?
The Flash
October 09, 2008, 09:42 AM
I think kakashi has done a pretty good job so far, from what we've seen. He got one good bit of information already which he will most likely use to his advantage...that is, he knows pein can control or mess up his chakra with that black rod. And fuka and naruto high fived! haha, that's awesome.
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in the raw it shows naruto sparring with fuka while in hermit mode and he seemed to be doing fine...even making KBs without any side effects...
yeah thats whats confusing me - If that spoiler *that hasnt been confirmed yet* is true - then it'd make sense.
and that spoiler is - naruto can go into sennin mode battleing*not standing still* without fukasaku for 5minutes. Then again i dont know
That page needs to be translated
jaws
October 09, 2008, 09:42 AM
what if naruto does a kagebunshin and the kagebunshin they both enter sennin mode cant the clone stand still for naruto?? lol:blink
Seta Soujirou
October 09, 2008, 09:43 AM
Tsunade, Gai will join the fight...there is enough Pain for everybody...
Aizen Sama
October 09, 2008, 09:47 AM
The funny thing is Pain is barely trying. Pain could probably unleash all Hell on Konoha if he wanted to. Instead he blows up a few buildings and kills a few people; nothing much. However Kakashi is having serious trouble with Pain. There aint no way he's ready to be hokage.
Kshunsui
October 09, 2008, 09:48 AM
sage mode standing still - naruto can do all the time.
But him moving disrupts the concentration. thats why he needs fukasaku on his side - hence the reason why fukasaku said he needs to be on naruto. (the only drawback)
The spoiler clearly stablished that Naruto only needs fukusaku to enter into the sage mode, I don't believe the sparring sesions with Fukusaku, only takes 5 minutes:darn,
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 09:53 AM
i really wonder if gai is going to join the fight! i pray that he is gonna join the fight with pain and kakashi!!
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 09:55 AM
The funny thing is Pain is barely trying. Pain could probably unleash all Hell on Konoha if he wanted to. Instead he blows up a few buildings and kills a few people; nothing much. However Kakashi is having serious trouble with Pain. There aint no way he's ready to be hokage.
Well, you can't calculate the worth of a (possible) Hokage by wheter he can defeat one body or not. Jiraya was the elder's first choice as 5th and he summoned frog-assistance against only one of Pein's bodies.
Kakashi won't die yet ;)
nat
October 09, 2008, 09:57 AM
According to the amazing plot no justsu, he won't die. Because there is still some role for him to do in the story, which maybe becoming Hokage until Naruto is ready.
Like you said, Hokage is not about power. He is the strongest in the village and sadly for them, he is potentially the strongest. Naruto is a bit immature at this point to lead a nation...
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 10:04 AM
According to the amazing plot no justsu, he won't die. Because there is still some role for him to do in the story, which maybe becoming Hokage until Naruto is ready.
Like you said, Hokage is not about power. He is the strongest in the village and sadly for them, he is potentially the strongest. Naruto is a bit immature at this point to lead a nation...
Who cares if bush can lead why not naruto!!!
Vote Naruto/konohamaru!!!
I'm uzumaki naruto, and I approved this message!!!
lol
Kakashi is not out yet!!!
I see next issue pein calling upon the other to take on kakashi. Cuz his troublesome!!!
Go Kakashi!!!
Aizen Sama
October 09, 2008, 10:05 AM
Well, you can't calculate the worth of a (possible) Hokage by wheter he can defeat one body or not. Jiraya was the elder's first choice as 5th and he summoned frog-assistance against only one of Pein's bodies.
Kakashi won't die yet ;)
I don't think he's going to die. I just don't see how he can fulfill his duties to protect the village if he's clearly weaker than almost all of the remaining villains.
Pain is just on another level.
According to the amazing plot no justsu, he won't die. Because there is still some role for him to do in the story, which maybe becoming Hokage until Naruto is ready.
Like you said, Hokage is not about power. He is the strongest in the village and sadly for them, he is potentially the strongest. Naruto is a bit immature at this point to lead a nation...
kakashi needs a huge power up right now.
scruffyboy12
October 09, 2008, 10:08 AM
The colored pages are really nice. Hope kakashi will be alright in the end. Looks like an overall nice chapter.
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 10:09 AM
I don't think he's going to die. I just don't see how he can fulfill his duties to protect the village if he's clearly weaker than almost all of the remaining villains.
Pain is just on another level.
OK, let's assume Tsunade dies and Konoha needs a nu Hokage: Who else besides Kakashi could do the job in your oppinion?
mrwhos
October 09, 2008, 10:10 AM
I don't think he's going to die. I just don't see how he can fulfill his duties to protect the village if he's clearly weaker than almost all of the remaining villains.
Pain is just on another level.
kakashi needs a huge power up right now.
I belivie that Gai is comming to "rescue" Kakashi like last time he did when Itachi took a visit ot the village.
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 10:16 AM
vut it would be so silly not to make gai appear on a fight doesn't matter to rescue kakashi or somthing eles! mainly he appears in the manga! at least team 9! neji etc
shachi
October 09, 2008, 10:16 AM
I hope there's a Jinchuuriki Gaiden coming up, assuming there's a timeskip coming up.
Sunburn74
October 09, 2008, 10:18 AM
OMG, 2 whole chapters without sasuke and guess what?! They've been great!!! I really want to see demon's head weapon up close. Not sure what it does....
bighawke5
October 09, 2008, 10:18 AM
WTF naruto can only hold senin mode for 5 min? i swear kishi comes up wit this shit out of his ass
why wasnt this mentioned before even the nights naruto was using it, or even as in first impression..and now that he's supposedly done training he can only hold it for 5 mins? good job kishi...
Shambler
October 09, 2008, 10:20 AM
Am I the only one who sees the irony a colour spread of the jinchuriki when most of them are dead? And the three tailed kid doesn't even exist!
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 10:20 AM
maybe the sage mode time is connected by the time he concentrates
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:20 AM
where is this five minute thing coming from?
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 10:20 AM
Am I the only one who sees the irony a colour spread of the jinchuriki when most of them are dead? And the three tailed kid doesn't even exist!probably he was ask to drawn and color them to the animation
bighawke5
October 09, 2008, 10:22 AM
where is this five minute thing coming from?
read the spoilers posted...its somewhere at the bottom of "AKEEM's" post dunno if its true...hopefully not
Sunburn74
October 09, 2008, 10:23 AM
lol... one of the panels shows pain wearing a konoha headband!!! must be a mistake.
nat
October 09, 2008, 10:23 AM
WTF naruto can only hold senin mode for 5 min? i swear kishi comes up wit this shit out of his ass
why wasnt this mentioned before even the nights naruto was using it, or even as in first impression..and now that he's supposedly done training he can only hold it for 5 mins? good job kishi...
Well Ichigo coould only have hollow form for 11 seconds in the beginning, Kubo copies Kishi, and Kishi does the same...
Plus, Naruto goes to train one week or a few weeks and comes back uber powerful, while most nin (uchihas included) have to almost kill themselves and train for years just to get that power...
Giving him a time limit is good for the story...;)
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:24 AM
Am I the only one who sees the irony a colour spread of the jinchuriki when most of them are dead? And the three tailed kid doesn't even exist!
what's ironic about it? I agree with you though, there shouldn't be nine....unless what deidara, tobi or whoever said was a mistranslation and all bijuus had a jin just that the bijuu was in control...who knows, there shouldn't be 9, though. Yonbi looks badass.
bighawke5
October 09, 2008, 10:24 AM
maybe the sage mode time is connected by the time he concentrates
lol well that detail was never mentioned..if its connected then there shouldnt be a problem since if he loses concentration he turns to frog...not "loses senin mode"
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:25 AM
You guys obviosuly misunderstood. Naruto can only be in Sage Mode for 5 mins by himself, after that he needs Pa frog on his shoulder. Common sense.
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:26 AM
read the spoilers posted...its somewhere at the bottom of "AKEEM's" post dunno if its true...hopefully not
there needs to be a new spoiler update system...I skip over stuff that doesn't look new. Thanks though.
bighawke5
October 09, 2008, 10:26 AM
Well Ichigo coould only have hollow form for 11 seconds in the beginning, Kubo copies Kishi, and Kishi does the same...
Plus, Naruto goes to train one week or a few weeks and comes back uber powerful, while most nin (uchihas included) have to almost kill themselves and train for years just to get that power...
Giving him a time limit is good for the story...;)
lol i agree
sarcasm...
but if kishi does it for sasuke ...who's able to beat ppl stronger than him with just a sharingan power up...why not for naruto...oh i forget he's kishi's fav...
/sarcasm
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:27 AM
It also seems this chapter confirms that Pein is Minato.
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 10:27 AM
Am I the only one who sees the irony a colour spread of the jinchuriki when most of them are dead? And the three tailed kid doesn't even exist!
Am I the only one who can't understand why a lot of people complain about the color pics? Let's be grateful for the pages instead of complaining that Kishi drew the former host of the three tails although the three tails didn't have a host by the time it fought with Madara (what's the problem with that anyways???). I think it's nice to see some color for a change :)
bighawke5
October 09, 2008, 10:27 AM
there needs to be a new spoiler update system...I skip over stuff that doesn't look new. Thanks though.
true and np it didnt look like it was marked confirmed anyway...dunno if it is
hopefully more scenes of naruto fighting...lol not satisfied with just markings showing he was fighting and not showing him actually doing the movements...and also KB not new...damn it kishi i know u can do it..show us something amazing & diff about Frog fu!
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:28 AM
It also seems this chapter confirms that Pein is Minato.
!? didn't see that....what are you referring to?
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:29 AM
true and np it didnt look like it was marked confirmed anyway...dunno if it is
The trans should be confirmed I can tell you that, but wait for the whole trans for the chapter. Like I said Naruto can only be in sage mode for 5 minutes by himself.
narutokuro
October 09, 2008, 10:30 AM
I belivie that Gai is comming to "rescue" Kakashi like last time he did when Itachi took a visit ot the village.
I also share that belief that Guy will come to save Kakashi. Mark my words that Guy will sacrifice himself this arc by opening every gate to fend off Pein. Doing so will shed some light on the "realms" of Pein. I have seen it!
tiberiuscg
October 09, 2008, 10:31 AM
It also seems this chapter confirms that Pein is Minato.how? or are you just trollan?
gold349
October 09, 2008, 10:31 AM
thats where your wrong. My post was based on the confirmed spoilers...It is said in the spoilers that naruto can only go into hermit mode for 5 minutes.
naruto standing still would be fine. But if he is required to move and battle. he can only last for 5 minutes. Thats why i said - it seems like he needs two people. PLease read the spoilers better next time..
the post was based on confirmed spoilers?, I commented on the fact that you think 'it appears you need 2 people for this hermit mode', as you was strengthening that thought with...saying Naruto doesn't need an extra person as he has kyubi and that in future he could have kyubi do fukasaku part as fuka is old (something on those lines)...that was what I commented too, in this instance you'll see that you was making case for kyubi being that second person Naruto can use for sage mode...I, not intended as flame or any thing else.
Anyway , the time limit is news to me and I've checked the confirmed spoilers can't find those lines, I try my best to read the spoilers:)
edit: found the five minuite thing, its the person who read the spoilers view isn't it?, its not confirmed.
The spoiler clearly stablished that Naruto only needs fukusaku to enter into the sage mode, I don't believe the sparring sesions with Fukusaku, only takes 5 minutes:darn,
agreed, the initial stage is what is considered 'draw back', Jiraiya managed to stay in it for a battle and Naruto is said to be better at it. The time limit, that should just depend on person's mental strength and the transformation shouldn't have one (though I haven't read anything about time).
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:32 AM
!? didn't see that....what are you referring to?
Pain is wearing a Konoha headband.You don't need anymore proof than that :p
http://i36.tinypic.com/2hf740w.jpg
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:35 AM
oh...hahahaa...kishi is getting super sloppy...maybe an easter egg? doubt it. He needs to tighten up his game.
lan2cp
October 09, 2008, 10:38 AM
It also seems this chapter confirms that Pein is Minato.
:blink How exactly did you arrive to that conclusion?
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:38 AM
oh...hahahaa...kishi is getting super sloppy...maybe an easter egg? doubt it. He needs to tighten up his game.
To be fair to Kishi, it might have been one of his assistants.
btw Ino looked very hot! this chapter, especially at that angle that Kishi drew her at when she was running. :blink
nice, round tight ass!
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 10:39 AM
I also share that belief that Guy will come to save Kakashi. Mark my words that Guy will sacrifice himself this arc by opening every gate to fend off Pein. Doing so will shed some light on the "realms" of Pein. I have seen it!
yeaah i think the same but we dont no if gai is ever appearing u know what i mean?? kishi is sometimes an asshole!! probabyl he dont include gai in this arc but i dont hope so!!
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:39 AM
To be fair to Kishi, it might have been one of his assistants.
btw Ino looked very hot! this chapter, especially at that angle that Kishi drew her at when she was running. :blink
ditto on that.
but even if it was his assistant that fucked up, kishi should have final say of what gets published, and his keen eye should have picked it up.
GOOMOONRYONG
October 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Oh man now everyone is going to be saying how pain is minato now.
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:43 AM
ditto on that.
but even if it was his assistant that fucked up, kishi should have final say of what gets published, and his keen eye should have picked it up.
LOL but you and many other here didn't pick it up, so you can't blame Kishi for missing it, it's quite hard to notice.
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:45 AM
LOL but you and many other here didn't pick it up, so you can't blame Kishi for missing it, it's quite hard to notice.
haven't looked through the chapter really...I quick skim through spoilers. But whatever, just saying
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:46 AM
haven't looked through the chapter really...I quick skim through spoilers. But whatever, just saying
Yeah Kishi is a busy guy, but are you sure he checks the chapter? Isn't that the editors job?
takadanama
October 09, 2008, 10:47 AM
Full Chinese scans is out btw...
bean
October 09, 2008, 10:48 AM
Yeah Kishi is a busy guy, but are you sure he checks the chapter? Isn't that the editors job?
well he should, right? He's gotta make sure that what he told the assistants gets done...unless he's gotten lazy and complacent.
lan2cp
October 09, 2008, 10:48 AM
LOL I saw the Pain pic now. Also Why do you guys think that the Rock and Cloud country had 2 jinchuriki each while the others only had 1?
jebebs
October 09, 2008, 10:49 AM
hmm instead of minato i'd lean towards pain being naruto.
think about it right when naruto left pain attacked AND on top of that they look exactly alike.
coincidence i think not :D
just kidding lulz :P
Reenie
October 09, 2008, 10:50 AM
Pain just stole some fodder-nin's Konoha ninja band cause he thought it looked badass lol, since he wasn't wearing it when he stood outside of Konoha
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 10:50 AM
Lol Naruto looks like Goku/Gohan is Super Saiyan mode in those coloured pics.
Fortisdiablos
October 09, 2008, 10:51 AM
I thought that Naruto's eyeliner would be black. The red doesn't look bad or anything, it's just that in my mind had already been decided.
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 10:52 AM
LOL I saw the Pain pic now. Also Why do you guys think that the Rock and Cloud country had 2 jinchuriki each while the others only had 1?
the clouds had the two tails and have the 8 tails and the rock country had the 5 and 4 tails if you look closer on theri foreheads you will see it
frazierificus
October 09, 2008, 10:56 AM
lol. Kishi's team made a mistake on pg.6, or Pain just decided he wants to be a Konoha shinobi. At the bottom of the page he's wearing a Konoha headband. lol:p
lol, great eyes. I wouldn't have ever saw that. It's really surprising that a mistake like that could happen. Good job editors. muhahahah
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who are the two guys in page 18 at the bottom behind tsunade??
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the hidden cloud have two bijus in their village? Lol
It's Shino and Shikamaru.
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 10:58 AM
lol, great eyes. I wouldn't have ever saw that. It's really surprising that a mistake like that could happen. Good job editors. muhahahah
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It's Shino and Shikamaru.
wrong! shika is with sakura !!!
Kshunsui
October 09, 2008, 11:02 AM
Verification: Confirmed
Source: NF
Credits: Vered
" some more sentences from the spoielr guy answering questions i think.i forgot to post them before.but i dont know if they hold any valuble info.
the reverse side of the jinchuuriki's title page, there a scene with Naruto's training, about 7 panels long, a poster manga. It seems it's a first in the Jump's history.
他は無いです
There's nothing else.
みんな心配ありがとうございます
Thanks for worrying, guys.
常に仙人化してても問題無さそうだしね
It's like there is no problem to stay in sage mode forever
The confirmed spoiler (or the explanation of the spoiler dude) established that naruto can stay in sage mode forever, he need time to enter in sage mode, that the reason of the intervention of Fukusaku
gold349
October 09, 2008, 11:04 AM
lol, great eyes. I wouldn't have ever saw that. It's really surprising that a mistake like that could happen. Good job editors. muhahahah
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It's Shino and Shikamaru.
like many I missed that too, its clear from the top panel same page he is wearing his usual Rain nin but in the bottom panel he does seem to be supporting a konoha head band...if he's trying to fit in then ummmmm the cloak doesn't give him away?:amuse
Reenie
October 09, 2008, 11:05 AM
meh it doesn't really establish anything, that's just the impression of the spoiler guy who read the chapter ><
pops
October 09, 2008, 11:05 AM
is there a translation out yet? can't wait this chapter looks promising. gotta say kishi has really stepped it up lately
Eye of the tiger
October 09, 2008, 11:13 AM
Here is what I think will happen:
Naruto gets called back.
Pein leaves with Naruto.
The new characters in Raikage's group rescue Naruto instead of Killer Bee.
Naruto makes new friends and meets Killer Bee.
Killer Bee trains Naruto to properly use his tailed beast.
Incredible prediction! Thats like all sugary and sweet and nice.. might just be a li'l gal's fairy tale!! I hope there's at least a few characters dying, wayyy more destruction and pwnage from Naruto.. plus, I hope Pein does not get Naruto and Konoha team (including Naruto) vs. Pein ends in a draw so that we have a mega fight to look forward to.
Kage Level
October 09, 2008, 11:14 AM
yo! if there are 5 countries, didn't 4 of them have 2 Jinchuuriki's?
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 11:20 AM
yo! if there are 5 countries, didn't 4 of them have 2 Jinchuuriki's?
there are 8 countrieswe know and 1jinchuuriki without a forhead. 2 of the 8 countries have 2 Jinchuurikis rock and clouds country
bean
October 09, 2008, 11:20 AM
yo! if there are 5 countries, didn't 4 of them have 2 Jinchuuriki's?
rock and cloud had two...but not every country got one and not only countries got them. Villages got them too. Rokubi doesn't have a headband so who knows where he was from.
pops
October 09, 2008, 11:27 AM
isn't strange that prior to the nine tails attacking Konoha, who had control of all the tail beast at one time due to the 1st hokage, did not have a single tail beast while the other major villages did? also what is the deal the 3 tails...wasn't it without a host?
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 11:29 AM
isn't strange that prior to the nine tails attacking Konoha, who had control of all the tail beast at one time due to the 1st hokage, did not have a single tail beast while the other major villages did? also what is the deal the 3 tails...wasn't it without a host?
Might have had a host but seperated before Akatsuki captured it.
kataomoi
October 09, 2008, 11:31 AM
rock and cloud had two...but not every country got one and not only countries got them. Villages got them too. Rokubi doesn't have a headband so who knows where he was from.
Supposedly Yonbi wasn't suppose to have a village according to the recent data book. How did he get a rock headband?
Sigh...It looks like all hopes for Naruto getting a new outfit is becoming less and less likely.
Seeing that Naruto now perfected Sennin mode, is he going to still be called a gennin, or should we call him Sennin now?
gold349
October 09, 2008, 11:35 AM
The jins are intresting, 1 or 2 haven't villages? makes me think who else could have been that strong to make treaty with konoha so that Hashirama gave away a bijuu to them. Then again many things could have changed since shodaime gave away the bijuu.
There was once a whirlpool country which doesn't exist we still don't know much about other villages/countries which kishi I think is correcting/adding now. I'm so wanting to know the potential/capability of team Samoi.
anyway chapters gonna be great, the Kakashi and Deva Realm fight...I don't care what others think, that is going to be a cracker. Kakashi all out without babysitting others against a strong opponent...something I've wanted to see for ages apart from seeing Tsunade fight all out with out fainting at the sight o blood.
shachi
October 09, 2008, 11:37 AM
also what is the deal the 3 tails...wasn't it without a host?
A tailed beast can have more than 1 host. That's what what's-her-name(the puppet master grandmother from the Sand village) implied when she talked about how one of the Kazekages based his iron sand technique on a power demonstrated by one of the Ichibi's hosts.
chess4
October 09, 2008, 11:39 AM
i think pa frog is there with naruto because though naruto can go into sennin mode, doesnt mean he can use it quicklly like pa frog can. naruto having pa frog with him is a great benefit, pa frog is a seasoned fighter and to this point the only person(and his wife) to fight pain and survive.
SIDENOTE
the 3 tail jinchuuriki has been stated to be from the mist villiage, so that means as far as jinchurriki's go:
1 tails-sand village
2 tails-cloud
3 tails-mist
4 tails-itachi said he didnt have a village, but he has a forehead protector on
5 tails-unknown
6 tails-unknown
7 tails-unknown
8 tails-cloud
9 tails-leaf
maybe since the 3 tails didnt have her jinchuuriki maybe because she knew madara was hunting them and got rid of it someway
the 5,6,and 7 have forehead protectors, does nayone recognize the countries sybol on them?
Sentou Ryoku
October 09, 2008, 11:40 AM
So I guess Team Gai is oblivious to the attack going on, huh? Hopefully Ino does something significant for this arc, aside from being her father's emergency alarm.
Spoonz
October 09, 2008, 11:43 AM
With the way Ino is screaming, I think the area where the Yamanaka flower shop just got wasted. Her mom was probably there too. :(
Looks like this is going to be a loooong Chuunin exam-like arc with all the kids involved.
the Kakashi and Deva Realm fight...I don't care what others think, that is going to be a cracker. Kakashi all out without babysitting others against a strong opponent...
Kakashi looks badly outclassed here so there likely isn't going to be much of a fight. Kakashi will just fulfill his role of getting beat up to make Pain look strong before Naruto beats him. Once Shika figures out the code of course. Sort of a jobber role that Kakashi has played a few times before.
neomaster121
October 09, 2008, 11:44 AM
well after seeing the raw im ok with naruto and pa frog combo
seems like he only has him just to enter sage mode quickly
and thats good enough for me
Sage naruto is just soo cool
well there goes the change of clothes idea but all good either way
chess4
October 09, 2008, 11:47 AM
[QUOTE=gold349;1060228]the post was based on confirmed spoilers?, I commented on the fact that you think 'it appears you need 2 people for this hermit mode', as you was strengthening that thought with...saying Naruto doesn't need an extra person as he has kyubi and that in future he could have kyubi do fukasaku part as fuka is old (something on those lines)...that was what I commented too, in this instance you'll see that you was making case for kyubi being that second person Naruto can use for sage mode...I, not intended as flame or any thing else.
that makes sense, its just a matter of time before the 9 tails and naruto start working as one, the 9 tails is a proud creature and will take some like naruto to clam him down a bit. i think if pain attacks naruto when he gets back to the village, naruto along with pa does not have a chance of winning, but i think the 9 tails will do whatever it takes to stay away from madara and if he has to will force 4 tails out of naruto again, then its SHOWTIME
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 11:49 AM
Supposedly Yonbi wasn't suppose to have a village according to the recent data book. How did he get a rock headband?
Sigh...It looks like all hopes for Naruto getting a new outfit is becoming less and less likely.
Seeing that Naruto now perfected Sennin mode, is he going to still be called a gennin, or should we call him Sennin now?
Sennin is not a rank.
slyfox
October 09, 2008, 11:49 AM
Pain is wearing a Konoha headband.You don't need anymore proof than that :p
http://i36.tinypic.com/2hf740w.jpg
that's probably a mistake :tem
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2757/n3801rp0.jpg
bean
October 09, 2008, 11:50 AM
Supposedly Yonbi wasn't suppose to have a village according to the recent data book. How did he get a rock headband?
Sigh...It looks like all hopes for Naruto getting a new outfit is becoming less and less likely.
Seeing that Naruto now perfected Sennin mode, is he going to still be called a gennin, or should we call him Sennin now?
it could be when they were young, who knows. Still awesome, just wish we could have seen them within the manga and not on some cover. Kishi should make some gaidens.
dragon2021
October 09, 2008, 11:51 AM
i think pa frog is there with naruto because though naruto can go into sennin mode, doesnt mean he can use it quicklly like pa frog can. naruto having pa frog with him is a great benefit, pa frog is a seasoned fighter and to this point the only person(and his wife) to fight pain and survive.
SIDENOTE
the 3 tail jinchuuriki has been stated to be from the mist villiage, so that means as far as jinchurriki's go:
1 tails-sand village
2 tails-cloud
3 tails-mist
4 tails-itachi said he didnt have a village, but he has a forehead protector on
5 tails-unknown
6 tails-unknown
7 tails-unknown
8 tails-cloud
9 tails-leaf
maybe since the 3 tails didnt have her jinchuuriki maybe because she knew madara was hunting them and got rid of it someway
the 5,6,and 7 have forehead protectors, does nayone recognize the countries sybol on them?
One of them is stone village. The others might have villages but the head band is hidden or they were wiped out ;)
patedecarne
October 09, 2008, 11:52 AM
Kakashi looks badly outclassed here so there likely isn't going to be much of a fight. Kakashi will just fulfill his role of getting beat up to make Pain look strong before Naruto beats him. Once Shika figures out the code of course. Sort of a jobber role that Kakashi has played a few times before.
you're right. Kakashi vs Yahiko cannot be considered a fight, we don't know the extends of Yahiko's last attack in the chapter, but I guess it was strong enough to cut Kakashi's strengths by half or even more than this...
At this rate, Kakashi will be annihilated quickly if no one else appears to save him, given the fact his best skill was useless...
And about Tsunade's flashback, what could it mean?
KnuckleheadedNinja
October 09, 2008, 11:53 AM
Great chapter. Kakashi vs. God realm, that is the bomb like tic tic. Time for Kakashi to shine and show why two of the legendary Sannin consider him worthy of been the hokage. I think Kakashi will put up a great fight but i think God Realm will get the better of him and he is going to be safe by Naruto or Tsunade(and possibly gai). Also the red eye shade doesn't look too good on Naruto.
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 11:54 AM
you're right. Kakashi vs Yahiko cannot be considered a fight, we don't know the extends of Yahiko's last attack in the chapter, but I guess it was strong enough to cut Kakashi's strengths by half or even more than this...
At this rate, Kakashi will be annihilated quickly if no one else appears to save him, given the fact his best skill was useless...
And about Tsunade's flashback, what could it mean?
Let's not forget that Kakashi's best skill is no longer chidori.
DMNKLOL
October 09, 2008, 11:56 AM
that's probably a mistake :tem
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2757/n3801rp0.jpg
holy quack
Kishi made a few mistakes this chapter, eh?
Pain with the Konoha headband for a second, the jinchuuriki that wasn't suppose to have a village now has a village, and the beast that didn't have a jinchuuriki suddenly has a jinchuuriki.
kishi needs to lay off the coffee or something lulz
atleast Ino didn't have the sharingan
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 11:57 AM
Great chapter. Kakashi vs. God realm, that is the bomb like tic tic. Time for Kakashi to shine and show why two of the legendary Sannin consider him worthy of been the hokage. I think Kakashi will put up a great fight but i think God Realm will get the better of him and he is going to be safe by Naruto or Tsunade(and possibly gai). Also the red eye shade doesn't too good on Naruto.
Nice Lil' Wayne quote there.
I find it interesting kakashi got stabbed with the black pole while having sharingan activated.
dragon2021
October 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
holy quack
Kishi made a few mistakes this chapter, eh?
Pain with the Konoha headband for a second, the jinchuuriki that wasn't suppose to have a village now has a village, and the beast that didn't have a jinchuuriki suddenly has a jinchuuriki.
kishi needs to lay off the coffee or something lulz
It could be a village that is long been destroyed or disbanded. what do you think about Yondi and the Stone headband. Is that a mistake or is there something to it?:notrust
bean
October 09, 2008, 12:02 PM
you're right. Kakashi vs Yahiko cannot be considered a fight, we don't know the extends of Yahiko's last attack in the chapter, but I guess it was strong enough to cut Kakashi's strengths by half or even more than this...
At this rate, Kakashi will be annihilated quickly if no one else appears to save him, given the fact his best skill was useless...
And about Tsunade's flashback, what could it mean?
I think kakashi is going to be fine. He may not be winning now, but kakashi never wins in the beginng...he's a second half winner. But as for tsunade's flashback, I think she's just thinking that this time, with naruto, she'll personally protect him and make sure he's fine, unlike what happened with dan and that other guy.
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It could be a village that is long been destroyed or disbanded. what do you think about Yondi and the Stone headband. Is that a mistake or is there something to it?:notrust
when did minato have a stone headband? unless you mean yonbi, then, big whoop...I think his armor looks badass though.
dragon2021
October 09, 2008, 12:04 PM
I think kakashi is going to be fine. He may not be winning now, but kakashi never wins in the beginng...he's a second half winner. But as for tsunade's flashback, I think she's just thinking that this time, with naruto, she'll personally protect him and make sure he's fine, unlike what happened with dan and that other guy.
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when did minato have a stone headband? unless you mean yonbi, then, big whoop...I think his armor looks badass though.
Sorry that is what I meant (bad Spelling).
The Closet Pervert
October 09, 2008, 12:04 PM
Well, only chance I see of Kakashi defeating that Pain body is using his MS dimensional vacuum explosion thing. Which I believe won't really happen since it's fairly easily dodged? Or, I don't know.
Hopefully Naruto will arrive soon, but before that I see more main characters getting involved with Pains.
And, hopefully we will see what kind of "Diversionary Tactics" will Hungry Ghost realm give. I'd also like to see some more of Hell Realm, I think it's the only body we know almost nothing about.
DMNKLOL
October 09, 2008, 12:04 PM
It could be a village that is long been destroyed or disbanded. what do you think about Yondi and the Stone headband. Is that a mistake or is there something to it?:notrust
'tis a joke, you have to admit this chapter is littered with wtfness. He must've had to rush it or something.
there's atleast three things contradicting, one minor mistake with it which considering how long he's done this manga, you can look at it either way as incompetence or a good record.
and I'm not taking a side on that..I'm just going to lol.
Like I said, atleast Ino didn't have the sharingan :)
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:04 PM
It's sad when Ino looks more sexier and has more screen time than Sakura, the main female char.
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 12:06 PM
It's sad when Ino looks more sexier and has more screen time than Sakura, the main female char.
Nothing sad about that. Heck, wait until Ten Ten comes in to save Kakashi's butt!
wooticus
October 09, 2008, 12:07 PM
i think gai will definetely help kakashi before he gets killed, and then pain will retreat.. i hope there will be an epic fight light after oros invasion, like everybody seems to get defeated and after the kids are safe konoha does one hell of a counter attack =)
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:08 PM
Nothing sad about that. Heck, wait until Ten Ten comes in to save Kakashi's butt!
No, I admit Ino is sexy. But Ten Ten isn't really, maybe if she had untied her hair and made it long. She's got no chance against PAIN, when Pain has black rods which > 1010's weapons.
dragon2021
October 09, 2008, 12:09 PM
'tis a joke, you have to admit this chapter is littered with wtfness. He must've had to rush it or something.
Like I said, atleast Ino didn't have the sharingan :)
even with the mistatkes it looks like is is going to be a great chapter. Kishi loves to put Naruto in these unwinable situations like this. As many have stated I do not see how he will win? I mean against Pein (God).;)
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:09 PM
i think gai will definetely help kakashi before he gets killed, and then pain will retreat.. i hope there will be an epic fight light after oros invasion, like everybody seems to get defeated and after the kids are safe konoha does one hell of a counter attack =)
Pain blasted Kakashi away without moving, so he can do that to Gai as well.
dragon2021
October 09, 2008, 12:11 PM
No, I admit Ino is sexy. But Ten Ten isn't really, maybe if she had untied her hair and made it long. She's got no chance against PAIN, when Pain has black rods which > 1010's weapons.
How about Konon. She should do well against paper though.;)
KnuckleheadedNinja
October 09, 2008, 12:11 PM
It's sad when Ino looks more sexier and has more screen time than Sakura, the main female char.
what do you mean? i agree that Ino looks a thousand time sexier than Sakura but when has she ever have more screen time than Sakura. This is like the second or third time we seeing Ino in Part 2.
pops
October 09, 2008, 12:11 PM
i doubt kakashi will be beat. that would be just a joke if kishi lets him get taken out so easily after building him up so much throughout the manga. if jiraya was able to beat three of them at once having kakashi beaten by just one would be a mistake. whatever happen to the new generation beating the previous one? i think kakashi was just surprise by pein's abilities, but he should be able to quickly determine what is going on and come up with a proper strategy. otherwise kishi needs to just kills kakashi off b/c he keeps losing every fight he has.
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 12:12 PM
Pain blasted Kakashi away without moving, so he can do that to Gai as well.
Gai is fast enough that Pain may not see him coming or be able to react even if he does. Honestly I expect to see more action from the rookie 9 (Sai = Sasuke) than from the Jounin other than Kakashi.
Getting back to the spoiler . . . wtf is up with Iruka?
Shelledfade
October 09, 2008, 12:13 PM
No, I admit Ino is sexy. But Ten Ten isn't really, maybe if she had untied her hair and made it long. She's got no chance against PAIN, when Pain has black rods which > 1010's weapons.
Anyone know what the wall itachi summoned behind pain was for? I've never seen him do that move, looks like there is some kind of dog still behind pein after he blows the rest of the wall away.
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:14 PM
what do you mean? i agree that Ino looks a thousand time sexier than Sakura but when has she ever have more screen time than Sakura. This is like the second or third time we seeing Ino in Part 2.
Lol I mean in this chapter. :p
How about Konon. She should do well against paper though.
Don't talk about Konan, she is too sexy. And her paper is probably stronger than TenTen's weapons, and even if they aren't Ten Ten won't be as fast as Konan and Konan will dodge her attacks. :)
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 12:14 PM
i doubt kakashi will be beat. that would be just a joke if kishi lets him get taken out so easily after building him up so much throughout the manga. if jiraya was able to beat three of them at once having kakashi beaten by just one would be a mistake. whatever happen to the new generation beating the previous one? i think kakashi was just surprise by pein's abilities, but he should be able to quickly determine what is going on and come up with a proper strategy. otherwise kishi needs to just kills kakashi off b/c he keeps losing every fight he has.
In all fairness, Jiraiya fought the first effort, which in all manga is the weaker effort. Kakashi is going against what seems to be the primary body.
chess4
October 09, 2008, 12:14 PM
i just wish naruto could have meet one of the older jinchuuriki, so they could have taught him a few things, still he may end up meeting kilerbee.
its interesting how kishi chooses to show all the jinchuuriki now, like he is hinting at something. hopefully all of them are not dead, but that highly unlikely though maybe except for the 3 tails.
it would have been good to see all the jinchuuriki side by side in battle vs the 9 original akatsuki members.
bean
October 09, 2008, 12:15 PM
just for reference, what the color page implies is that the jins are from these villages:
ichibi is from the sand
nibi is from the cloud
sanbi is from the mist (?)
yonbi is from the earth/rock
gobi is from the earth/rock as well
rokubi doesn't have a visible symbol
shichibi is from the waterfall (?)
hachibi is from the cloud
and of course, the kyuubi is the resident bijuu of konoha.
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:16 PM
In all fairness, Jiraiya fought the first effort, which in all manga is the weaker effort. Kakashi is going against what seems to be the primary body.
Yeah, I don't know for sure but Yahiko Pain alone may be stronger than Itachi...just a thought.
Huey Freeman
October 09, 2008, 12:17 PM
Lol I mean in this chapter. :p
Don't talk about Konan, she is too sexy. And her paper is probably stronger than TenTen's weapons, and even if they aren't Ten Ten won't be as fast as Konan and Konan will dodge her attacks. :)
Bull crap!! Her teacher is Might Gai. She trains with Rock Lee and Neji Hyuuga. It's not like she can't handle a fast opponent! You need to bow down before the power of Ten Ten buddy! :worship
The Adamant Dragon
October 09, 2008, 12:17 PM
Pain blasted Kakashi away without moving, so he can do that to Gai as well.
True, though we shouldn't forget that Gai and Rock-Lee's moves and Taijutsu are the fastest in this manga, its their main strengh/ability and its even hard for the Sharingan to follow their movements. Unless ofcourse the Rinnegan has the power to predict too, but above that of the sharingan...
I can't wait to see Kakashi's next moves.
chess4
October 09, 2008, 12:17 PM
rokubi kinda looks like sasuke a bit, maybe he is an UCHIHA.....but seriously maybe kishi didnt show his on purpose
mashimashilove
October 09, 2008, 12:20 PM
It's sad when Ino looks more sexier and has more screen time than Sakura, the main female char.
That isn't sad at all. It is how it should be. ;D
Ino will eventually become Hokage. :eyeroll
But no, really. Ino > Sakura- in my opinion, of course ^^'. Maybe she will actually do something in the next few chapters, too. Not defeat a body, obviously, but show off something new. Sadly, I am probably reaching- but I can dream! xD
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 12:22 PM
i just wish naruto could have meet one of the older jinchuuriki, so they could have taught him a few things, still he may end up meeting kilerbee.
its interesting how kishi chooses to show all the jinchuuriki now, like he is hinting at something. hopefully all of them are not dead, but that highly unlikely though maybe except for the 3 tails.
it would have been good to see all the jinchuuriki side by side in battle vs the 9 original akatsuki members.
Except for Naruto, Gaara and Killerbee every Jin is dead. Chio stated that it's impossible to take a bijuu away without killing it's host. The fact that the 3-tails was free by the time it faced Madara and Deidera means that it's former host has to be dead.
Gaara is the only exception here since he was revived with Chio's unique jutsu
That isn't sad at all. It is how it should be. ;D
Ino will eventually become Hokage. :eyeroll
But no, really. Ino > Sakura- in my opinion, of course ^^'. Maybe she will actually do something in the next few chapters, too. Not defeat a body, obviously, but show off something new. Sadly, I am probably reaching- but I can dream! xD
No offense, but when did Ino ever do something useful??? The only time she was actually included in the storyline was her fight with Sakura at the chuunin exams. Hell, she didn't even do something important in the fight against Kakuzu :s
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:25 PM
Bull crap!! Her teacher is Might Gai. She trains with Rock Lee and Neji Hyuuga. It's not like she can't handle a fast opponent! You need to bow down before the power of Ten Ten buddy! :worship
And Konan is only the partner of God. :notrust
Also it seems Naruto won't get new clothes just yet, which is a shame, but he doesn't look as bad than I thought he would be in Sage mode with the jumpsuit.
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 12:28 PM
Pain blasted Kakashi away without moving, so he can do that to Gai as well.
ur right but itachie blastet kakashi in 1 sek away but gai could probably handle itachi for a while! that means it musn't be that if kakashi is going down then all the others have no chane ;) every one has an other jutsu and ability!
mashimashilove
October 09, 2008, 12:30 PM
Except for Naruto, Gaara and Killerbee every Jin is dead. Chio stated that it's impossible to take a bijuu away without killing it's host. The fact that the 3-tails was free by the time it faced Madara and Deidera means that it's former host has to be dead.
Gaara is the only exception here since he was revived with Chio's unique jutsu
No offense, but when did Ino ever do something useful??? The only time she was actually included in the storyline was her fight with Sakura at the chuunin exams. Hell, she didn't even do something important in the fight against Kakuzu :s
Maybe the Biju will all get released from that statue and fly back into the dead bodies of their former hosts. Zombie-Jinchuriki! They won't be on the good-guys side, of course; they'll just crush everyone. -continues to dream- xD Dammit, Kishi. I really wish you wouldn't have showed us all these deceased characters. ;__;
She's been useful-ish. Like finding Hidan and Kakuzu, temporarily stopping the Sound Genin Team...that's about it, right? And her uselessness in the Kakuzu fight wasn't her fault! xD No one would let her do anything. Even when she tried to be a useful medic, everyone was like: "No! Getouttherrr." But I don't really base my like of a character off of their usefulness. I base it off of: appearance, personality, jutsu, and (what i consider) their potential to be. It's more fun that way. xD
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:39 PM
I put the RAW up for online viewing.
bighawke5
October 09, 2008, 12:39 PM
The confirmed spoiler (or the explanation of the spoiler dude) established that naruto can stay in sage mode forever, he need time to enter in sage mode, that the reason of the intervention of Fukusaku
so wat off the 5 minutes thing?...im guessing it was misinterpreted...couldve meant he needs 5 minutes to enter sennin mode? hopefully thats it and not the other way around as jiraiya showed no time limit under senin mode..well he's more experienced with it but still lol
pops
October 09, 2008, 12:41 PM
i yeah i get the whole agrument about yahiko being the main body. i remember he was referred to as their leader by Madara after the sasuke vs deidra fight, but him beating kakashi is just too much. if this should happen then there is no chance that naruto in sage mode with pa on his shoulder against all six bodies and the real negato can win. u got to remember that teh yahiko body maybe the head body for pain, but he is still limited to only one path. u gotta believe kakashi who, besides naruto and tsunade is the strongest konoha ninja and as smart as shikamaru, one of the smartest ninja konoha has. i gotta believe that kakashi will be able figure out a way to beat yahiko. i actuall think pain will be beaten by konoha, which would leave nagato to fight naruto.
bean
October 09, 2008, 12:42 PM
I think this 5 minute thing is getting blown way out of proportion...we already know that jiraiya had to stand still for a while when he went hermit mode, I'm sure that's what fuka is referring to. Naruto will learn sooner or later that he won't need that because he has his KB hax...make a KB, send him out as a decoy, and he can get 5 min to go hermit mode.
Mundei
October 09, 2008, 12:43 PM
did I see mid-air combat with Naurto? looks awesome, the red eyeliner = meh, black woulda been better.
I enjoyed it overall, good mix of Naurto and Pein chaos.
bean
October 09, 2008, 12:43 PM
I got a question...what the hell are those dog things behind yahiko pein? are they statues or a kakashi summon? I mean, wtf?
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:45 PM
I got a question...what the hell are those dog things behind yahiko pein? are they statues or a kakashi summon? I mean, wtf?
Yeah that's bugging me as well, it doesn't look like it did anything.
Lelo
October 09, 2008, 12:48 PM
man Konoha is in deep shit. Pein has arrived and hes killing a numerous amount of people. And theres way more to come. If Sasukes real goal is to destroy Konoha then Konoha is going to have back to back battles with 2 of the strongest shinobis. But IMO that isnt Sasukes real goal, I still belive he wants to kill Madara for helping his bro wipe out the Uchihas. He might want the Elders from Konoha dead too but he doesnt want to destroy it all, its too much of a hassle
Coup
October 09, 2008, 12:50 PM
I got a question...what the hell are those dog things behind yahiko pein? are they statues or a kakashi summon? I mean, wtf?
Yea, it looks like Pein somehow awaken them? Then the bark from them is what blasted Kakashi back.
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:50 PM
Don't you just love how Pain doesn't even bother to look at Kakashi when he does that kick. That's just badass!
bean
October 09, 2008, 12:50 PM
another question...why is the hachibi posing like he's being held at gun point? still sticking to stereotypes, kishi?
mrwhos
October 09, 2008, 12:50 PM
I got a question...what the hell are those dog things behind yahiko pein? are they statues or a kakashi summon? I mean, wtf?
I think its kind a "dead end"/"in a corner" wall just tomake it less possible to run away. Something like that.
vintagemistakes
October 09, 2008, 12:51 PM
I got a question...what the hell are those dog things behind yahiko pein? are they statues or a kakashi summon? I mean, wtf?
I think it was a summon...not the animal summon kind(eventhough there were dog faces on it) but something along the lines of those walls that Oro used agaisnt 4-tail Naruto's chakra blast.. either way it was a damn good strategy nonetheless and goes to show just how awesome Kakashi is. dodge your opponents attack, summon a wall behind them so they can't move and then go in with a point blank ranged chidori... AWESOME.. too bad it didn't work.
DMNKLOL
October 09, 2008, 12:55 PM
another question...why is the hachibi posing like he's being held at gun point? still sticking to stereotypes, kishi?
I LOL'd.
holy crap he's like "give a brutha a break son"
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What pain did to Kakashi, the "attack wave", is that like the thing Kankuro did to Naruto in part 1 in their first meeting where he pushed him back with what seemed like..air..?
Or is it wind chakra powerz lulz? awesome that it blew Kakashi back and destroyed the summoned wall
stormbind
October 09, 2008, 12:58 PM
Maybe the Biju will all get released from that statue and fly back into the dead bodies of their former hosts. Zombie-Jinchuriki! They won't be on the good-guys side, of course; they'll just crush everyone. -continues to dream- xD Dammit, Kishi. I really wish you wouldn't have showed us all these deceased characters. ;__;
She's been useful-ish. Like finding Hidan and Kakuzu, temporarily stopping the Sound Genin Team...that's about it, right? And her uselessness in the Kakuzu fight wasn't her fault! xD No one would let her do anything. Even when she tried to be a useful medic, everyone was like: "No! Getouttherrr." But I don't really base my like of a character off of their usefulness. I base it off of: appearance, personality, jutsu, and (what i consider) their potential to be. It's more fun that way. xD
I strongly believe that naruto will do something like a gaiden with the story of each jinchuriki. Maybe mostly focused on the fight with akatsuki. Some of them should have been epic. :D
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 12:58 PM
I think it was a summon...not the animal summon kind(eventhough there were dog faces on it) but something along the lines of those walls that Oro used agaisnt 4-tail Naruto's chakra blast.. either way it was a damn good strategy nonetheless and goes to show just how awesome Kakashi is. dodge your opponents attack, summon a wall behind them so they can't move and then go in with a point blank ranged chidori... AWESOME.. too bad it didn't work.
And to think, some people here were bashing Kakashi yesterday, for apparently being stupid/naive.
bean
October 09, 2008, 01:03 PM
And to think, some people here were bashing Kakashi yesterday, for apparently being stupid/naive.
there will always be haters...there still are saying that he's way out classed...I don't think he is. He's still feeling pein out. All the fights I can remember with kakashi usually start with him dying, getting caught or fucked up and they always end with kakashi being on the winning end and in a hospital bed for a week or so.
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 01:05 PM
I got a question...what the hell are those dog things behind yahiko pein? are they statues or a kakashi summon? I mean, wtf?
We can only go by the pictures for now: Iruka went off into another direction so we can exclude the possibility that Kakashi wanted to stop Pein from chasing Iruka. It also doesn't seem broad enough to block Pein's way.
Kakashi usually uses raikiri from mid-range: He prepares his jutsu and rushes towards his opponent. Evading to the left, the right or jumping up in the air is useless, since Kakashi can run left, right / jump up too. Evading backwards is useless as well, since Kakashi comes at you with pretty high speed so unless you're super fast he'll hit you nonetheless.
This chapter Kakashi used it in a close combat situation, meaning Kakashi already stands before Pein and can't charge at him. That gives Pein the opportunity to dodge Kakashi's attack by leaning behind and out of Kakashi's striking-range. By summoning the wall Kakashi made that impossible...
Still Pein was able to dodge by manipulating Kakashi's chakra which seemed to distract him enough for Pein leaning to the side... But that's just my speculation :darn
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 01:05 PM
What type of jutsu did pein used against kakashi?
I mean, kishi keeps overpowering this villains, so naruto could finish them with the rasengan?.. Kakashi didn’t even see it coming with his sharingan….oh well!!
So I guess for those guys waiting to see some frog fu, just got cheated. You will have to wait until naruto faces pein.
I wish somebody would gives us a rough translation. I’m dying to see whats the conversation between naruto and fukusaku is about?……did he finish frog-fu?
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 01:06 PM
there will always be haters...there still are saying that he's way out classed...I don't think he is. He's still feeling pein out. All the fights I can remember with kakashi usually start with him dying, getting caught or fucked up and they always end with kakashi being on the winning end and in a hospital bed for a week or so.
I don't see how anyone can hate Kakashi, he is too cool.
Strider's♥Death
October 09, 2008, 01:06 PM
there will always be haters...there still are saying that he's way out classed...I don't think he is. He's still feeling pein out. All the fights I can remember with kakashi usually start with him dying, getting caught or fucked up and they always end with kakashi being on the winning end and in a hospital bed for a week or so.
Whoa O_O kakshi what the hell are u doing XDDD
But seriously this is kakshi's time to shine, Lets see what kakshi is made of here and hopefully it turns into a 2 on 1 (kakshi by himself) to see how far kakshi can push himself.
◆ T.D.A ◆
October 09, 2008, 01:07 PM
Whoa O_O kakshi what the hell are u doing XDDD
But seriously this is kakshi's time to shine, Lets see what kakshi is made of here and hopefully it turns into a 2 on 1 (kakshi by himself) to see how far kakshi can push himself.
True test to see if he is fit to be Hokage.
vintagemistakes
October 09, 2008, 01:08 PM
And to think, some people here were bashing Kakashi yesterday, for apparently being stupid/naive.
in their defense...its very easy to go on a gut reaction and condemn an action when you have very little info on the subject like we did yesterday.
but more importantly... is this the definitive moment, where we can finally and officially say that this became/start of Kakashi's part of the year?
Kabuto
October 09, 2008, 01:10 PM
Inos dad is trying to get past the genjutsu barrier, but why does he seeand image of thepein who can take himself apart. Im sure he is the one who set up the genjutsu trap.
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 01:15 PM
What type of jutsu did pein used against kakashi?
I mean, kishi keeps overpowering this villains, so naruto could finish them with the rasengan?.. Kakashi didn’t even see it coming with his sharingan….oh well!!
So I guess for those guys waiting to see some frog fu, just got cheated. You will have to wait until naruto faces pein.
I wish somebody would gives us a rough translation. I’m dying to see whats the conversation between naruto and fukusaku is about?……did he finish frog-fu?
I think it's more like he wasn't able to evade it due to the fact that he performed a summon the moment Pein decided to strike. He already tried to hit Iruka with the black bar / chakra inductor. Since Kakashi ain't dumb he must have known that Pein might try that on him too.
Kakashi didn't know that Pein could mess with his chakra as long as he's impaled on that bar. If Pein wouldn't have that ability Kakashi would have hit with his Raikiri and the fight would be over already. IMO that was Kakashi's plan...
Karma
October 09, 2008, 01:15 PM
I guess Naruto going to arrive at the nick of time.. to save someone.. I think it might be Kakashi or the 5th Hokage. but i going to be epic.. I dont have a problem with Pa toad sitting on Naruto shoulder.. But i have a problem with Naruto jumpsuit.... Come on Kishi.. change the guy uniform..
White Rabbit
October 09, 2008, 01:15 PM
What pain did to Kakashi, the "attack wave", is that like the thing Kankuro did to Naruto in part 1 in their first meeting where he pushed him back with what seemed like..air..?
what kankuro did was just attaching one of his chakra-strings to narutos foot to make him trip.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/34/Naruto_34_18/
deva-pains attack-wave looks more like the chakra-explosion of 3-tails-naruto to me.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/292/10/
bean
October 09, 2008, 01:22 PM
Inos dad is trying to get past the genjutsu barrier, but why does he seeand image of thepein who can take himself apart. Im sure he is the one who set up the genjutsu trap.
I think that was a scene change...right? unless ino's dad got blown up in that explosion, but the way I read it was that he just found something huge out, and then they changed scene to the demon pein blowing shit up.
Sentou Ryoku
October 09, 2008, 01:23 PM
Team Gai's absence in this chapter better not mean the cliche'd 'we're here to save you *insert ninja here*' plot device later on. Also, was Ino and Chouji just hanging outside Ibiki and Inoichi's interrogation room? She got there REAL fast.
DMNKLOL
October 09, 2008, 01:23 PM
what kankuro did was just attaching one of his chakra-strings to narutos foot to make him trip.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/34/Naruto_34_18/
deva-pains attack-wave looks more like the chakra-explosion of 3-tails-naruto to me.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/292/10/
I had no idea...:oh
now that I look at it, it does look more like what 3-tail naruto did
narutokuro
October 09, 2008, 01:27 PM
I strongly believe that naruto will do something like a gaiden with the story of each jinchuriki. Maybe mostly focused on the fight with akatsuki. Some of them should have been epic. :D
One of the jinchuriki will be in the new naruto movie!!
Askia32
October 09, 2008, 01:29 PM
what kankuro did was just attaching one of his chakra-strings to narutos foot to make him trip.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/34/Naruto_34_18/
deva-pains attack-wave looks more like the chakra-explosion of 3-tails-naruto to me.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/292/10/
Yea, it looked like force repulse from the force unleashed.
I'm glad Kakashi came in looking like a G. The original spoiler explained it in a way that made Kakashi seem like Naruto of old.
Can't wait to see Naruto come back. It looks like different teams will be fighting the different Pein bodies in the next chapter. Kakashi gets one to himself, hopefully two at the same time.
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 01:29 PM
I think it's more like he wasn't able to evade it due to the fact that he performed a summon the moment Pein decided to strike. He already tried to hit Iruka with the black bar / chakra inductor. Since Kakashi ain't dumb he must have known that Pein might try that on him too.
Kakashi didn't know that Pein could mess with his chakra as long as he's impaled on that bar. If Pein wouldn't have that ability Kakashi would have hit with his Raikiri and the fight would be over already. IMO that was Kakashi's plan...
Makes sense, his not only weird but has weird ass weapons too. And thats only one pein.
I wonder if he grows them?
And if it is true that those piercings are like chakra receivers the real pain must have huge amounts of chakra!!!
I think kakashi will start to use his MS next!!!...woot!!! Can't wait!! I wonder if he discover any new uses for it?....amaterasu perhaps?...again can't wait!!
Askia32
October 09, 2008, 01:32 PM
One of the jinchuriki will be in the new naruto movie!!
Umm....the movies are always terrible, maybe except for the first movie(besides the rainbow rasengan). I did enjoy that one.
We need some of those bleach writers to write a script for a Naruto movie. Diamond dust rebellion was excellent.
But, than again, Pein is starting to seem like some of those movie villains. Heads opening up and shooting lasers, come on is this transformers?
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 01:43 PM
his not only weird but has weird ass weapons too.
lol, you and Jiraya agree on that point XD :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/381/04/
I wonder if he grows them?
I'm tempted to say you're right with that. He uses it here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/381/02/) too and this time it's too long to be hidden in his sleeve...
mrwhos
October 09, 2008, 01:44 PM
Umm....the movies are always terrible, maybe except for the first movie(besides the rainbow rasengan). I did enjoy that one.
We need some of those bleach writers to write a script for a Naruto movie. Diamond dust rebellion was excellent.
But, than again, Pein is starting to seem like some of those movie villains. Heads opening up and shooting lasers, come on is this transformers?
I don't think it's laser, i think its some kind a waterjutsu he did. If you look more closely at the frame you see some of blasting is clouds/dust and some are more looking like water in that blast.
enmymiguel
October 09, 2008, 01:46 PM
this chapter will be good. but then naruto part with frog #$%^ the chapter
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 01:52 PM
lol, you and Jiraya agree on that point XD :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/381/04/
I'm tempted to say you're right with that. He uses it here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/381/02/) too and this time it's too long to be hidden in his sleeve...
I hope konoha starts hitting back against pein, cuz if this fight goes by decision pein is in front on all scorecards......lol
I hope pein doesn't pull a kimimaru style of fighting with those things poping out!!
No wonder Tsunade is calling back naruto. This guy can't be handled by normal jutsus. You need freaks to handle freaks!!! and pein is already ripping konoha apart. so having naruto going 4-tails probably would be considered necesary at some point!!!
4-tails or more!!!! please kishi!!!
bean
October 09, 2008, 01:58 PM
I hope konoha starts hitting back against pein, cuz if this fight goes by decision pein is in front on all scorecards......lol
I hope pein doesn't pull a kimimaru style of fighting with those things poping out!!
No wonder Tsunade is calling back naruto. This guy can't be handled by normal jutsus. You need freaks to handle freaks!!! and pein is already ripping konoha apart. so having naruto going 4-tails probably would be considered necesary at some point!!!
4-tails or more!!!! please kishi!!!
having naruto go 4 tails within konoha is just as bad as leaving pein alone to fuck konoha up.
narutokuro
October 09, 2008, 02:01 PM
Its crazy! Besides the barrier move, genjustu and the kick to Soul Sucking Pein eyes. No one has touched him! Pein hasn't broken a sweat...not one beed.
Young Aizen
October 09, 2008, 02:05 PM
hmmm for some reason i sense a kakashi + Gai/yamato vs deva pein battle comin up
but that pein energy barrier looks pretty ill
AkatsukiNoTobi
October 09, 2008, 02:07 PM
Yeah, I get the feeling that Gai is gonna jump in with a Dynamic Entry on Pein. He seems to have a knack for doing that at the "opportune" moment (meaning when we expect it).
gold349
October 09, 2008, 02:08 PM
Jiriaya started to push back Animal Realm Pain once he went hermit mode, Kakashi is up against Deva Realm he will have to be super today even to stand a chance but its not beyond him to produce something special. Other times he has been the acting babysitter, the stage his alone for the moment. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't come to help him later on (gai, yamato), Itachi put him in hospital for a week (not taking anything from kakashi there, he just couldn't do anything against MS sharingan) and this is Deva Realm Pain the self proclaimed Deity of Rain village/narutoverse. I disagree with many who say that it will be a quick fight, kishi defiantly should throw some nins to their death at Pain but Kakashi isn't going to be one...Kakashi here is like Sasuke not one to to be killed off maybe the fight will be like that of Hachibi and Sasuke were Kaakshi does a lot but not good enough and wins last minute with an ubber technique one of his 1oo0 jutsu in his arsenal modified (I can dream).
Strider's♥Death
October 09, 2008, 02:09 PM
having naruto go 4 tails within konoha is just as bad as leaving pein alone to fuck konoha up.
So what ur trying to say is that naruto should go 5 tails then hmmmmm b e a n u may be up to sumthing here.
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 02:12 PM
having naruto go 4 tails within konoha is just as bad as leaving pein alone to fuck konoha up.
noup cuz then you could say the wen't down fighting and not laying down.
But after kishi showing us sage things, must likely naruto is gonna try to fight in sage mode.
I wonder if he will activate sage mode before going back to konoha?
samsiufan
October 09, 2008, 02:13 PM
Who did Pa give the Hi-5 to? it didn't look like Ma but it looked like a human hand
Edit: Sorry just saw the spoiler - not sure if the question has been asked already!
Strider's♥Death
October 09, 2008, 02:16 PM
Who did Pa give the Hi-5 to? it didn't look like Ma but it looked like a human hand
Edit: Sorry just saw the spoiler - not sure if the question has been asked already!
That was naruto he gave a high five to
Kaijuu
October 09, 2008, 02:16 PM
Who did Pa give the Hi-5 to? it didn't look like Ma but it looked like a human hand
How about Naruto? oO
EDIT: Damn, too late xD
samsiufan
October 09, 2008, 02:18 PM
That was naruto he gave a high five to
Oh yeah...it was the position of the text bubble, made me think it was some one with some sort of cloak on...thanks...:D
Sunburn74
October 09, 2008, 02:25 PM
I've always thought the way kakashi uses chidori is kinda useless. Not much more effective than a good sword imo, but costs too much.
enmymiguel
October 09, 2008, 02:27 PM
i hope kakashi don't die cause i wanna see what he going to say to sasuke face to face
krynny
October 09, 2008, 02:27 PM
i like the cover with all the jinkuurichi, but i thought the 3 tails didnt have one and was just a creature out in the ocean or something like that. wasnt that right?
Rotten The Wizard
October 09, 2008, 02:31 PM
I really dont think Tsunade is calling Naruto in to Fight. She would never do that
I think she has a plan. I think she wants to get all the peins in one spot and Kamikaze them
Maybe she has a shiki Fuujin level jutsu of her own
GreeN Beast
October 09, 2008, 02:33 PM
i like the cover with all the jinkuurichi, but i thought the 3 tails didnt have one and was just a creature out in the ocean or something like that. wasnt that right?
which chapter was the 3 tails again i cant find it!°
bean
October 09, 2008, 02:39 PM
which chapter was the 3 tails again i cant find it!°
www.onemanga.com/naruto/317 (http://www.onemanga.com/naruto/317)
I think that's it.
gold349
October 09, 2008, 02:40 PM
which chapter was the 3 tails again i cant find it!°
www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/01
edit: bean got there first, in manga it was wild, maybe kishi is giving us its previous jin, who knows, thats what I think as Gaara is there an dhe is previous Shakkuku.
THM Nindo
October 09, 2008, 02:41 PM
One of the jinchuriki will be in the new naruto movie!!
Okay, I've been watching all the Trailers for the Naruto Shippuden 2 : Bonds and I didn't see any of those Jinchuuriki in it.
Would you mind telling me which one will be in the movie and where it can be seen in the previews?
Thanks.
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 02:41 PM
I really dont think Tsunade is calling Naruto in to Fight. She would never do that
I think she has a plan. I think she wants to get all the peins in one spot and Kamikaze them
Maybe she has a shiki Fuujin level jutsu of her own
Use naruto as bait? That doesn't sound to smart either!!! She could make somebody henge into naruto for that, instead of calling him back.
On another note.....anybody noticed why kakashi went for the head? He normally uses raikiri on the body, but not the head. Could it be he was after pein's eyes, so pein noticed and made some distance between them?
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 02:49 PM
Use naruto as bait? That doesn't sound to smart either!!! She could make somebody henge into naruto for that, instead of calling him back.
On another note.....anybody noticed why kakashi went for the head? He normally uses raikiri on the body, but not the head. Could it be he was after pein's eyes, so pein noticed and made some distance between them?
He knows about Pein's reviving abilities from Fuka. Jiraya impaled three bodies, but Pein somehow revived them. That means hits on the torso are useless, even if they would be deadly to a normal shinobi. Maybe that's why Kakashi tried to hit the head instead of the torso...
lan2cp
October 09, 2008, 02:50 PM
i hope kakashi don't die cause i wanna see what he going to say to sasuke face to face
I also want to see Kakashi's reaction when he sees Sasuke, since he is the only one from Team 7 that hasn't seen Sasuke after he left Konoha. Also it intrigued me that he asked if Kakashi was there back in the Reunion in Orochimaru's layer. So that would be interesting to see.
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 02:54 PM
He knows about Pein's reviving abilities from Fuka. Jiraya impaled three bodies, but Pein somehow revived them. That means hits on the torso are useless, even if they would be deadly to a normal shinobi. Maybe that's why Kakashi tried to hit the head instead of the torso...
Yeah the info he got from fukusaku could have hinted him not to go for the body.
But i think he actually went for the eyes. The pic shows kakashi's two fingers going for the head. Normally i think thats used to show the guy is going for the eyes!!!
Man i can't wait to know what the hell did fukusaku teach naruto with frog-fu?
vintagemistakes
October 09, 2008, 02:54 PM
Use naruto as bait? That doesn't sound to smart either!!! She could make somebody henge into naruto for that, instead of calling him back.
On another note.....anybody noticed why kakashi went for the head? He normally uses raikiri on the body, but not the head. Could it be he was after pein's eyes, so pein noticed and made some distance between them?
it seems like the chakra rod messed up Kakashi enough for Pain to move his head in the nic of time but Kakshi was going for his head and a instant kill. Kakashi's smart enough to know that this isn't a guy you mess around with... best to kill first and ponder questions later type of scenario.
enmymiguel
October 09, 2008, 02:54 PM
pein need to get the 9tail and use against konoha. and if naruto stop the 9tail without die. the he surpass the 4th
Sentou Ryoku
October 09, 2008, 02:57 PM
I'm hoping to see some Hungry Ghost Realm/Asura (Fat Pain) vs Chouji/Ino action. Please please please Kishimoto...don't let them be just wallpaper this time around!!!!
bean
October 09, 2008, 02:58 PM
so we're not going to get a quick translation of the chinese scanlation?
Spoonz
October 09, 2008, 03:01 PM
I'm hoping to see some Hungry Ghost Realm (Fat Pain) vs Chouji/Ino action. Please please please Kishimoto...don't let them be just wallpaper this time around!!!!
Considering how strong these bodies are no way does Ino and Choji fight one by themselves. The fandom would go nuts if Kishi gave two characters regarded as weak, a fight against a Pain body. They'll likely reform Ino-Shika-Cho and wait for instructions. Maybe the old Ino-Shika-Cho will reform to and both teams will work together?
neomaster121
October 09, 2008, 03:02 PM
Yeah the info he got from fukusaku could have hinted him not to go for the body.
But i think he actually went for the eyes. The pic shows kakashi's two fingers going for the head. Normally i think thats used to show the guy is going for the eyes!!!
Man i can't wait to know what the hell did fukusaku teach naruto with frog-fu?
How to jump real good
DanteSonOfSparda
October 09, 2008, 03:03 PM
Yeah the info he got from fukusaku could have hinted him not to go for the body.
But i think he actually went for the eyes. The pic shows kakashi's two fingers going for the head. Normally i think thats used to show the guy is going for the eyes!!!
Man i can't wait to know what the hell did fukusaku teach naruto with frog-fu?
Lol, you're right: He does chidori with two fingers. You maybe right about aiming for the eyes...Kakashi must have played Fallout 2 ;)
How to jump real good
Nope, not even that: The "jumping from the back of your kage-bunshin"-trick is something Naruto already performed in his Gaara fight (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/133/06/)
laughing@you
October 09, 2008, 03:08 PM
How to jump real good
brup!!! you are right!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!
Lol, you're right: He does chidori with two fingers. You maybe right about aiming for the eyes...Kakashi must have played Fallout 2 ;)
If he did, his my favorite character ever!!!
vintagemistakes
October 09, 2008, 03:09 PM
I wonder what Konan is doing...
I hope she doesn't get left out of all this fun that's going on right now. That would be lame.. Although I do get the feeling that she's just going to be wait in the wings and heer part will unfold at a very interesting/tenuous point in this fight.
mashimashilove
October 09, 2008, 03:14 PM
Considering how strong these bodies are no way does Ino and Choji fight one by themselves. The fandom would go nuts if Kishi gave two characters regarded as weak, a fight against a Pain body. They'll likely reform Ino-Shika-Cho and wait for instructions. Maybe the old Ino-Shika-Cho will reform to and both teams will work together?
:o
I'd totally be cool with that.
Ino-Shika-Cho Generations Attack! xD
Loves it.
Sentou Ryoku
October 09, 2008, 03:18 PM
I'd totally be cool with that.
Ino-Shika-Cho Generations Attack! xD
Loves it.
Well, Ino's dad seems to be doing something useful right now and Shikaku's always in the shadows (so to speak). Chouza's probably getting a meal interrupted with all the explosions (haha). It'd be bad ass if both he and Chouji use Super Multi Size within the village.
Also, dibs in calling that Team 8 has at least some action against Animal Realm Pain. With names like these, the action's just writing itself, right?
KnuckleheadedNinja
October 09, 2008, 03:19 PM
I'm hoping to see some Hungry Ghost Realm/Asura (Fat Pain) vs Chouji/Ino action. Please please please Kishimoto...don't let them be just wallpaper this time around!!!!
I hope you prepare for them to die then, because that what will happen if they dare to take him on.
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