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paradoxe
August 10, 2008, 07:29 AM
Admiral Akainu (赤イヌ大将, Akainu Taishō) is an Admiral in the world of One Piece, one of only three to hold such a position and subordinate only to Fleet Admiral Sengoku.

He was known as Vice Admiral Sakazuki before his promotion. He was present at the Ohara incident, being one of the five vice-admirals, leading the Buster Call offensive. He ordered the destruction of an evacuation ship of civilians and soldiers, claiming it needed to be destroyed in case a single scholar managed to sneak on board (an action that horrified even Spandine). His entire face is not seen during his appearance, as it is hidden by his cap, but he seems to look like an ordinary marine. He believes in "Absolute Justice", which is against Aokiji's way of thinking.

“ If you are going to do a job, do it thoroughly. If even a single scholar managed to sneak on board, all the sacrifices made today would have been wasted. Evil must be completely eradicated."
Akainu's view on destroying the ship.

I know we don't know enough information about Akainu to fathom even an educated guess. However, Akainu translates as Red Dog. We know that Aokiji has a logia ice fruit and Kizaru has a logia light fruit. Both of their abilities have something to do wtih their nicknames.

Anyone have any idea what Akainu's ability can be? Do you think hes got a logia?

I also think that out of the 3 admirals, Akainu may be the only one who is truly evil, and portrayed as a despicable person. From what we've seen, he has been nothing but a cruel character, killing many innocent people. His 'loyalty' to the WG and 'absolute justice' borders on fanaticism, which is disturbingly reminiscent of the fanaticism of terroists. Whether or not he will face Aokiji again, or fight Kizaru in this arc or in the future, I don't know, but I think Luffy will definitely face Akainu sometime in the future.

JC123
August 10, 2008, 08:40 AM
Not "Dark" Justice. "Absolute"

He's not a killer like Lucci in that sense. He destroyed the ship to take out ANY chance of a scholar surviving. He wouldn't kill the people otherwise so he sees no wrong in what he's done.

Lucci killed because he found it fun. Also, he had a thing against weakness, which allowed him to kill more. But that's me being off topic. ;-)

Anyway, I have to venture, since BB has the Dark Fruit, Akainu may have a very powerful Zoan fruit. As we have been told, Zoan are known for cruelty if they have a predatory animal. Since Drake has a Dino Dino Fruit, I gotta venture that Akainu has to have a type of model fruit. Maybe Ptero? Not too sure but those would fit. T-Rex is just too big.

Sarmad
August 10, 2008, 08:41 AM
Maybe his ability involves Blood. That's the first think that pops into my mind when i think about an ability that involves the colour red.
The red dog of the WG, bloodthirsty and cruel to the end. Him having an ability involving blood would kinda fit.


Not "Dark" Justice. "Absolute"

He's not a killer like Lucci in that sense. He destroyed the ship to take out ANY chance of a scholar surviving. He wouldn't kill the people otherwise so he sees no wrong in what he's done.

We don't know what Aikanu was thinking at that time. So what you're saying is pure speculation.
I even assume that he's worse than Lucci, cause it would be disappointing any other way. One of the three admirals has to be truly evil. but discussing this would be off topic. ^^

Deathgod75
August 10, 2008, 07:32 PM
I know we don't know enough information about Akainu to fathom even an educated guess. However, Akainu translates as Red Dog. We know that Aokiji has a logia ice fruit and Kizaru has a logia light fruit. Both of their abilities have something to do wtih their nicknames.

Anyone have any idea what Akainu's ability can be? Do you think hes got a logia?

I also think that out of the 3 admirals, Akainu may be the only one who is truly evil, and portrayed as a despicable person. From what we've seen, he has been nothing but a cruel character, killing many innocent people. His 'loyalty' to the WG and 'absolute justice' borders on fanaticism, which is disturbingly reminiscent of the fanaticism of terroists. Whether or not he will face Aokiji again, or fight Kizaru in this arc or in the future, I don't know, but I think Luffy will definitely face Akainu sometime in the future.

yea im betting that he'll do something like kill some of Luffy's friends like destroy a whole village. and then he'll bring upon himself the fury of the SH and im betting that his DF gonna be Neko Neko model tiger or lion which makes him extra aggresive. but i also dont know if he'll be that powerful with that cause Lucci was mega strong with his zoan just cause he was also a Rokuishi master, so unless he's a Rokuishi master then he cant be that strong.

Onomatopoeia
August 10, 2008, 07:38 PM
My money is on Absolute Justice for Akainu, the big difference between Lucci and Akainu is that Akainu gave a justifiable(if fairly messed up) reason to why he did it Lucci did it for the fun of it. Thats the big difference between Dark and Absolute Justice and since we have no reason to believe that he wasn't lying then he likely believes in Absolute Justice.

bittman
August 10, 2008, 10:50 PM
Im with Sarmad, I expect they'll relate red to the blood of his enemies (like Chef Zeff's "red leg" nickname). A blood blood fruit would of course be interesting. Flames would be the obvious runner up, but we've already had a few firey fruits (Ace and Mr 5).

Even if it isn't a blood blood fruit, I would still go with the fact that the Red is related to blood as mentioned like Chef Zeff.

JC123
August 10, 2008, 11:23 PM
Maybe his ability involves Blood. That's the first think that pops into my mind when i think about an ability that involves the colour red.
The red dog of the WG, bloodthirsty and cruel to the end. Him having an ability involving blood would kinda fit.



We don't know what Aikanu was thinking at that time. So what you're saying is pure speculation.
I even assume that he's worse than Lucci, cause it would be disappointing any other way. One of the three admirals has to be truly evil. but discussing this would be off topic. ^^

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/96/08/

We hear about Justice the first time.

Here, we see that Justice changes depending on where you stand, as said by Vice Admiral Kuzan:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/397/11/

This shows that Vice Admiral Sakazuki is ruthless. It also shows he believes in rooting out evil no matter what. Which is what "Absolute Justice" is all about:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/397/12/

Now compared to Lucci, Akainu is all about efficiency. He's a killer, no doubt. But he does it for the greater good. [/offtopic]

The blood blood fruit sounds pretty cool though. Maybe something about having blood boil. Using that against Luffy would probably make him automatically go into Gear 2 if he gets close to Akainu.

Akainu
August 11, 2008, 01:52 AM
blood would be cool if he could change it willingly, like doping without EPO or having adrenaline, steroids and testosterone rise, though these are hormones it would fit the blood(-thirst) theme.
but there are also a number of zoan type fruits that would be likely as was stated before and therefore I wouldn't rule out dogs completly though it would be the 4th of that kind so it's kinda hard to tell whether Oda would do that or not.

paradoxe
August 11, 2008, 09:28 AM
A blood logia fruit would fit him pretty well I think.

Ice, Light and Blood..

34DD
August 13, 2008, 01:19 AM
Considering the whole "justice" thing, I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a thread about it.

I wouldn't say Akainu is "evil", but he definitely has an extreme view on justice. Absolute justice puts morals aside in order to complete the job. Akainu wanted no one "evil" to escape Ohara, even if it meant destroying a ship with a bunch of innocent people on it. Lucci would go after anyone related to the "evil". My source that may get different interpretations: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/426/16/
They both have there similarities, but Akainu's view is the perfect example of someone doing their job, even though it sounds extreme and messed up. Akainu would kill a hundred to get rid of a huge threat. Lucci would kill anyone related(though this would probably be up for interpretation)

About Akainu's power.... well, a blood ability just seems..... meh... what can you actually do with it? Give someone AIDS or something? (tasteless joke, I know I know >.>) The whole thing with the Admirals names and junk is spot on and makes a lot of sense, but there are many more kind of abilities. My guess would be Akainu's ability would be something dealing with lava or magma.

paradoxe
August 13, 2008, 04:59 AM
Akainu would kill a hundred to get rid of a huge threat

If that was the case, then he might ahve been partially justified.

The fact was that they were persecuting innocent archeologists..not terrorists but historians who were just trying to find out what happened. Why should that even be illegal?

Akainu
August 13, 2008, 05:19 AM
because ... you know... the government said it is. it doesn't matter which reasoning is behind it, whether they really want to keep the world peaceful and thus no one should read the poneglyphs that give information about ultimate weapons or if they want to hide something they have done in the past.
they (the WG) forbid reading the poneglyph and that's what those historians did, problbly repeatedly, and that's why they got punished.
that killing isn't the appropriate measure against such a (in our view) minor crime (or even none at all!) for most of us speaks volumes.

kkck
August 13, 2008, 11:45 AM
Maybe Akainu has a magma or lava fruit (cant remember the diference right now but you know what I mean). It would be somewhat similar to ace´s fruit, but it would still be awesome and in wouldnt be ar morbib as a blood blood fruit.

Onomatopoeia
August 13, 2008, 01:15 PM
Red Dog stands for a few things literally.

Clifford the Red Dog: Huge red dog named Clifford would totally be an awesome tribute and Zoan.

A game of Chance played with Cards:It would be interesting to have a character that used cards as their power and chance...

Red Dog Mine: Type of mine

Those are just some literal senses of that. Probablly not likely but figured I'd give some discussion.

kkck
August 13, 2008, 01:27 PM
I dont think akainu will be a zoan user. None of the other admirals are either monkey or pheasant, and there have been 2 dog models introduced so far, a third one would be redundant. Although he seems unusually loyal to the goverment.

dsr
August 13, 2008, 03:52 PM
Blood Blood Logia would be awesome, because Akainu could manipulate even other's people blood.

slippy
August 14, 2008, 12:40 AM
when i think red i think about the earth/rock/soil. therefore, i believe akainu may have some earth type fruit such as rock. ice + light + rock, i think it works better than blood

NoLimit89
August 14, 2008, 04:57 AM
dammit, slippy beat me to it.

I was gonna say earth/rock. earth/rock is often described to be red as well, e.g. the australian aboriginal flag has red ground, black sky and yellow sun.
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also going by the theme, I'd say all three admirals are logias.

Aokiji - Blue Pheasant - blue being ice, pheasant being docile/lazy in nature
Kizaru - Yellow Monkey - yellow being light, monkey being quickness(speed of light)/easily bored and can't settle down
Akainu - Red Dog - red being earth/rock (by speculation), dog being loyalty and without questioning (like his view of absolute justice)

BlackHair
August 14, 2008, 09:11 AM
I cant imagine blood logia type, its just too much of dark/vampire etc crap and it just wont fit one piece imo.

hm.. brown is the first colour which come tho my mind if I think about earth/rock.

I would say its sth similar to fire, like lava. And so far I would say Akainu is the only all time serious guy.

kkck
August 14, 2008, 09:55 AM
Thank you blackhair, a lava fruit would fit the color red perfectly and by now we know that the animal names admirals are given dont have anithing to do with their abilities. I think a blood logia would be to morbid for this manga which is meant to be read by kids. I think oda drew the line for morbid in zombies lol.

MrTeatime
August 16, 2008, 12:35 AM
when i think red i think about the earth/rock/soil. therefore, i believe akainu may have some earth type fruit such as rock. ice + light + rock, i think it works better than blood

And magma is rock, molten rock. That would be cool.

paradoxe
August 16, 2008, 05:18 AM
Blood would be more original and creative imo. Cooler power.

I mean we already have a heat related fruit (fire), and another literal heat heat fruit in the anime..

slippy
August 16, 2008, 03:46 PM
oda wouldnt do blood. law's abilitity can disattach limbs which is weird but blood? thats just too far for oda

kkck
August 16, 2008, 04:15 PM
WHat would be special about a blood logia besides it being incredibly morbid? It would basicaly be a water logia rip off in my opinion.
I still think it is going to be a lava fruit, it would fit the red part and it would be extremely powerful. It might even bring back mizu luffy lol.

Deathgod75
August 17, 2008, 12:02 AM
WHat would be special about a blood logia besides it being incredibly morbid? It would basicaly be a water logia rip off in my opinion.
I still think it is going to be a lava fruit, it would fit the red part and it would be extremely powerful. It might even bring back mizu luffy lol.

but if its lava were talking bout then he would have to use gear third to expand his stomach cause he would need a ton of water.

BlackHair
August 17, 2008, 12:16 AM
And magma is rock, molten rock. That would be cool.
True, would match NoLimit89 (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=988175&postcount=18) explanation as well. I' thinking more and more of a lava fruit lol

Blood would be more original and creative imo. Cooler power.
I mean we already have a heat related fruit (fire), and another literal heat heat fruit in the anime..
True, but if I had to assign elements to colour: blue = water, yellow= light/sand , red = fire.. etc I cant thing of something other then fire related for Akainus "Red Dog" title.
Blood just wont fit Odas style in OP. Well then again, I could also be totally wrong, back then I though of Thriller Park as an joke/some kind of filler. Oda is just unpredictable.



but if its lava were talking bout then he would have to use gear third to expand his stomach cause he would need a ton of water.
Indeed lol.. haha

paradoxe
August 17, 2008, 01:35 AM
WHat would be special about a blood logia besides it being incredibly morbid? It would basicaly be a water logia rip off in my opinion.
I still think it is going to be a lava fruit, it would fit the red part and it would be extremely powerful. It might even bring back mizu luffy lol.

Well a blood logia fruit would be really powerful. Remember that DF powers are just themed that way, it could be very creative and have all sorts of powers even only remotely related to its name, like Hawkin's power.

A blood logia fruit could provide its user with the ability to make someone have a heart attack by touching them or make them explode in a bloody mess (think crimson alchemist in FMA). Who knows, it may even allow the user to turn into liquid blood form and take control of anothers body ..

Deathgod75
August 17, 2008, 08:44 AM
Well a blood logia fruit would be really powerful. Remember that DF powers are just themed that way, it could be very creative and have all sorts of powers even only remotely related to its name, like Hawkin's power.

A blood logia fruit could provide its user with the ability to make someone have a heart attack by touching them or make them explode in a bloody mess (think crimson alchemist in FMA). Who knows, it may even allow the user to turn into liquid blood form and take control of anothers body ..

well thats a good possibility but we already have body control in doflamingo and people exploding in bloody mess sounds a little too violent 4 one piece.

MrTeatime
August 17, 2008, 05:43 PM
Well a blood logia fruit would be really powerful. Remember that DF powers are just themed that way, it could be very creative and have all sorts of powers even only remotely related to its name, like Hawkin's power.

A blood logia fruit could provide its user with the ability to make someone have a heart attack by touching them or make them explode in a bloody mess (think crimson alchemist in FMA). Who knows, it may even allow the user to turn into liquid blood form and take control of anothers body ..

Not to forget that blood has a much larger range och abilities.
For example, it can harden and create a very strong barrier.

It can also vary in thikness and you should consider the effect of the "eater", "murder" and "de-construct" cells in the defense system.

A blood logia type could consume and decompose any biological enemy with living cells:blink.
Not rubber though, as thats dead cells. Whipie:tem!

SilversDKRayleigh
December 16, 2008, 08:11 PM
if he had a blood logai it would be to much like Donquixote Doflamingo's powers because if he controls their blood he would control their body and as for earth having something to do with the color red i disagree cause this isn't mars but i could see it having something to do with lava or magma.
The difference between lava and magma is that magma is still in the ground where as lava has come out.

Akainu
December 17, 2008, 01:20 AM
I still don't think he could controle the blood of others.

speaking of the blood logia: it would be an awesome fight with Kidd :tem
magnetism against ferreous blood xD

Epikhigh
December 17, 2008, 04:05 AM
How can blood be a logia?? Blood is not an element or force of nature. All logia's can turn into their element except BB. Whoever think that Akainu will turn into blood ?? That is ridiculous wth !! If theres some blood related df it'd have to be a paramecia type related somehow with blood. That would be so overpowered though if you could control blood lol.

Logias:
Sand
Lightning
Light
Ice
Fire
Smoke
Darkness/Gravity

the only logias that aren't an element or force of nature are not in the manga. like paper, candy logias from the OP movies lol.

edit: man, I hope akainu's power is revealed this arc! its hard to come up with a reasonable logia lol! ... lava/magma seems so similar to fire... all I can think of is wind / tornado type logia, but how is that red?? hahaha. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a crazy paramecia :P

Gecko Moria
December 17, 2008, 04:41 AM
I was originally thinking something to do with fire (different from Ace's DF) but blood sounds better so meh. Also, Akainu isnt a totally cold-blooded killer like Lucci but he would do anything the WG told him to do cause he believes that their word is "absolute justice".

RichardMNixon
December 17, 2008, 12:39 PM
I'd say Akainu is Lawful-Neutral, he does whatever the law commands him to do regardless of what that requires. Lucci is Lawful-Evil, he uses the laws to make excuses for his evil acts.

I'm personally hoping Akainu has either no DF or a non-combat DF like Mr. 2's and isn't particularly strong. Not a fighter, just a brilliant and cold-blooded commander. Like he's on his way to Luffy's hometown to capture everyone he cares about and force him to surrender.

kkck
December 17, 2008, 01:17 PM
I think akainu is going to be a lava user(logia). I cant think of any other red natural thing at the moment so that is my best guess.

GreyEidolon
December 17, 2008, 01:53 PM
Ha, it's strange, I came to this forum today with this very question in mind.

If I were to venture a guess, I think I'd go with clay. It's naturally reddish in color, if I recall, or at least certain kinds are. I think it would fit in with the other logia quite well, if perhaps a little too similiar to sand.

Tsukisama
December 23, 2008, 01:59 AM
I had also been thinking of what logia Akainu could have. Since the idea that had considered does not seem to have been mentioned, what if Akainu had a rose logia power?

Besides being red, I think it would allow him to occupy an interesting niche in the story. There haven't been any plant-type DFs in the story yet, and the closest thing to a rose-related fruit is the Hana Hana Fruit, which does not really have much of anything to do with flowers.

There could be a lot of versatility with the ability as well. Besides the rose petal breeze (which would be inherent in any rose theme), he could attack with vines and thorns too. I could also see the possibility of a poison or some sort of toxic pollen being associated with it.

It might even add to his personality. He could be a very tough guy whom people fear because of his ruthlessness. When Luffy meets him and finds out he uses a rose theme, he might laugh and think he is harmless, causing Akainu to get extremely (and comically) mad.

big_p
December 23, 2008, 12:19 PM
Maybe he has a inu inu no mi, model blood hound.

hows that for a different answer,

Akainu
December 23, 2008, 12:52 PM
roses - though not a bad idea, like plants in general - wouldn't be Logia imo.
rather paramecia - or even better "zoan" like. after all they would turn the user into a living being. that said why not? he doesn't have to have a logia :amuse

Sachsenhesse
December 23, 2008, 01:16 PM
just the normalest thing... earthlogia there is still red earth on this planet ;) and i think an erdlogia would be... not to complicated and for sure a logia

ofir271
December 23, 2008, 05:41 PM
blood doesnt cut it-not dominant enough and also got a buggy fruit homor in it wich doent fit an admiral.
same for zoan although a big daino getting close.

i think somthing like the lavva or a human volcano could work.
it can also be more abstruct like heat heat fruit ,or a red anger fruit.
and i can also imagine him in a form of a red sun(like ace in his best form but more concetrated)

btw about logia users i was wondering if we see water, and about wind i think dragon got it.

paradoxe
December 25, 2008, 09:29 AM
causing Akainu to get extremely (and comically) mad.

Nah I see Akainu being the calm type. Like Aokiji, but colder. Much much colder.


Merry X'mas btw. ;o

dtyk
May 24, 2009, 09:24 PM
What devil fruit do you think Admiral Akainu has? Logia? What Logia?

Do you think He'll fight Luffy (Since Luffy tends to fight "Absolute Justice" personnel).

(Hope this isn't a repeat topic. Searching for Akainu just resulted in thousands of topics about the user "Akainu" in this forum)

(Sorry, posted this in the wrong section)

bittman
May 25, 2009, 01:04 AM
And already exists: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36835

Darek Khort
May 25, 2009, 08:03 AM
@bittman - you just linked us back to this thread. :D

Anyways, I'm siding with earth/clay. I just can't imagine lava because it feels too close to fire.
Instead Earth sounds about right. So far we know Aokiji has a way to travel across the sea; and so does Kizaru (I assume) so that they can get to whereever they are required to go.

Having an ability to do with Earth could potentially allow Akainu to create a path with the Earth. Perhaps the Earth logia could also introduce growth in said earth (I dunno...extremely rich and prosperious mix of earth that allows for fast growth?).

Razh
May 25, 2009, 08:15 AM
There is a card game called Red Dog. It's a game of chance. It would be crazy if Akainu had some kind of luck or chance fruit.
I really doubt it, but it's possible in One Piece.

Darek Khort
May 25, 2009, 08:21 AM
Tarot cards? Like the clown skill in Ragnarok Online?
Would be funny if one of the cards killed/seriously hurt the user. :<

Akainu - Die, Luffy! *dondondon*
Gaaah! The pain! The anguish!
Luffy - a-leh? what?
Akainu - Okay! Next card! Die, Luffy! *dondondon*
Gaaah! The pain! The anguish! Curse my luck!

Razh
May 25, 2009, 09:03 AM
My idea doesn't have anything to do with cards.

If anyone watched Vision of Escaflowne and remembers those two cat sisters, Narya and Erya (i think...), they'll know what I mean.

Basically, avoiding attacks by chance and always dealing critical hits, to simplify the idea.

zerocooldx
May 26, 2009, 03:39 AM
I'm definately leaning towards Akainu being an earth/rock type of a Logia. The brief glimpse we cough of him seemed to sort of fit that "hard" or "stern" persona, much like a rock or a piece of earth. Kind of like how Akainu follows the rules/orders, which to him seem to be "written in stone" and there is no way around them. He seems to be this "immovable" and very serious individual who follows the law to a T. Which also explains his "red dog" nick name, obviously dogs are extremely loyal and do whatever they are asked to do. And all the talk of him being "evil" is kind of hypocritical to an extent, he is an admiral and for the most part they do good work. They protect the greater good, so their standerds have to be viewed in a different light. But i think Oda purposly saved completely revealing the final admiral, Akainu for a good reason.

dtyk
May 26, 2009, 08:00 PM
Either ways, seeing how everyone is viewing him as some kind of Logia, how will Luffy manage to deal with the intangibility, which is what I'm curious about.

Haki seems....not exactly plausible (in my opinion) to completely cancel out his DF

zerocooldx
May 27, 2009, 01:32 AM
Either ways, seeing how everyone is viewing him as some kind of Logia, how will Luffy manage to deal with the intangibility, which is what I'm curious about.

Haki seems....not exactly plausible (in my opinion) to completely cancel out his DF

But Haki is pretty much the only solid way to deal with Logias, that or fight them with their natural enemy. But i suppose Sea Stone gear could be used to fight against Logias as well. But for the most part Haki seems to be the way to go.

LoS
May 29, 2009, 12:54 AM
I would much rather him be a swordsman, something other than a logia or even fruit user.

zerocooldx
May 30, 2009, 07:09 AM
I would much rather him be a swordsman, something other than a logia or even fruit user.

Well if the current Admiral ability trend continues then yea Akainu will most likely be a Logia. But i'm pretty sure that all of the Admirals have other abilites, maybe such as what the CP9 posessed. Because if just being a Logia made someone that strong then i'm pretty sure Smoker would be an Admiral as well, and Ace would probably be close to an Admirals strenght. So i definately think that all of the Admirals have other skills that they combine with their Logia abilities. Which will probably be shown when they fight powerful opponents, hopefully at Ace's execution.

Rotten The Wizard
May 30, 2009, 09:45 AM
I highly doub he's a Logia, All my money is on Paramecia.

Kizaru's nickname is "Yellow monkey", you dont see him turning into a monkey do you?

zerocooldx
May 30, 2009, 10:29 AM
I highly doub he's a Logia, All my money is on Paramecia.

Kizaru's nickname is "Yellow monkey", you dont see him turning into a monkey do you?

Kizaru is a "Yellow Monkey" and Akainu is a "Red Dog" so i don't see what your getting at. You need to look at the meanings of the names and what they represent not what they literally are. For example te yellow part obviously refers to Kizaru's light ability and monkey refers to him being laid back and somewhat dimwitted. But at the same time he posesses a very serious side as well as massive power. Which are some of the basic characteristics of monkeys. Now Aokiji is known as the "Blue Pheasant" the blue part obviously represents his ice ability. And the Pheasant usualy represents good fellowship, which we have seen from Aokiji. And as we have already seen Akainu is an in individual that follows his orders to a T. Much like a dog, who does exactly what he is told without fail. And the red part can represent earth, because often times earth is seen/talked about as being a redish and crimson color.

Thx for the comment below.

BlackHair
May 30, 2009, 01:23 PM
I couldn't have said better than zerocooldx (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1375064&postcount=55).

Though I still expect his logia to be lava. Lava is just melted rock, so it would represent earth and heat (fire).

BetaRuler
May 30, 2009, 10:15 PM
Arent the animals also based off a legendary kinda kids story? I thought Id heard that it was somewhere and you could possibly think why or how the 2 powers so far got their ice and light like they did...

And if it were blood, Id wonder if it could be like Chardens from Black Cat ;P?

Imitorar
May 31, 2009, 12:46 AM
Arent the animals also based off a legendary kinda kids story? I thought Id heard that it was somewhere and you could possibly think why or how the 2 powers so far got their ice and light like they did...

And if it were blood, Id wonder if it could be like Chardens from Black Cat ;P?
The nicknames of the admirals come from Momotaro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momotaro), that's true, but I don't think that there's anything in the story that would hint to their powers. I wouldn't know, I don't know much of Momotaro other than what Wikipedia says, so I've never really read the story. Maybe it DOES hint to their powers, only someone who knows the story would know, I guess.

ofir271
May 31, 2009, 07:11 PM
he is probably just a huge red dog with massive dog like hakki.he could also learned some tricks like roll over ect.

LoS
June 01, 2009, 12:52 AM
Lol when I was a kid I remember reading books about Clifford the Big Red Dog. Literally a dog that was bigger than 4 story buildings, haha.

braindamage351
June 03, 2009, 03:53 AM
Quote: BetaRuler View Post
Arent the animals also based off a legendary kinda kids story? I thought Id heard that it was somewhere and you could possibly think why or how the 2 powers so far got their ice and light like they did...

And if it were blood, Id wonder if it could be like Chardens from Black Cat ;P?

In the legend it's just an ordinary pheasant, monkey, and dog. The only thing particularly related to their abilities is the color. Blue = ice. Yellow = light. Aka tends to be more like scarlet, blood-colored red. That's why people are expecting that. It's highly likely that the color is associated with blood, although he may not have a devil fruit at all. I'd hate if he was a swordsman, though, there are way too many of those.

zerocooldx
June 03, 2009, 04:01 AM
In the legend it's just an ordinary pheasant, monkey, and dog. The only thing particularly related to their abilities is the color. Blue = ice. Yellow = light. Aka tends to be more like scarlet, blood-colored red. That's why people are expecting that. It's highly likely that the color is associated with blood, although he may not have a devil fruit at all. I'd hate if he was a swordsman, though, there are way too many of those.

Blood is not a natural element, so for Akainu to be a Blood Logia that would be impossible. And even if there was a Blood Devil Fruit, giving something like that to a character would instantly makes them the strongest out there.

Benjamin Kaito
June 03, 2009, 05:51 PM
I was thinking in some sort of energy...maybe thermal or something...

Psy
June 17, 2009, 10:20 AM
[...] And the red part can represent earth, because often times earth is seen/talked about as being a redish and crimson color.

Thx for the comment below.

can you explain this, please?
i don't know nothing about this, and it's interesting! =O

zerocooldx
June 17, 2009, 11:06 AM
can you explain this, please?
i don't know nothing about this, and it's interesting! =O

Well i don't know what i can really explain. But "earth" or the "ground" i guess, can be looked at being many different colors. For example it can be brown, orange, red and etc. So i was just making a connection between his nickname and the possibility of him being an "earth" type Logia.

Psy
June 17, 2009, 11:18 AM
'stand.

... because often times earth is seen/talked about ....
this words make me thought that there is a reference of this into the manga, sorry.
Thanks anyway. °_*

Sachsenhesse
June 17, 2009, 12:56 PM
hrm... actually there is one...

the redline ^^

ITACHI R~I~P
June 17, 2009, 09:50 PM
I think hell be a vampire... o_o
Jus a thought but he's called the red dog.. In some instances vampires can change into wolves... And also vampires can drink blood hints red dog... Jus thoughts tho open to criticsm yo.... ;p

modoki
July 20, 2009, 11:41 PM
First post.

After some analyzing, i have personally concluded the following.

We all know kuzan and borsalino's fruit types associate with nature's elements.


Sakazuki, on the other hand could be plant themed. A type of flower/plant/ or something to do with the ground.

How did i figure this out? Simple. Take a look at his shirt colar and flower pin.
During the ohara flashback, Sakazuki had all of this covered with a brown cape with hood under an admiral jacket.

Apparently the clothing gives quite a hint. Black attire indicates that Sakazuki is most likely as heartless as the CP9.

*Edit* and although there are some one piece characters that appear to have a wierd attached laugh and theme behind them (kishishi, sayhahaha,fosfosfos, etc.) I think Sakazuki will be as serious as Hawkeye.
God forbids if anything fatal happens to Sengoku, Sakazuki seems "fit enough" to be the replacement out of the three admirals.


http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000200532/10-11.jpg

bittman
July 20, 2009, 11:59 PM
Yeah, strange no-one had bumped this now we've seen (partially at least) Akainu for the first time since he became an Admiral.

And so he has a pretty evident Rose petal theme going on there. Sounds a bit wimpy and romantic, contrary to his cold-hearted image, but at the same time the contrast could be what makes him a good character.

That said, the roses could be misleading us to his power. I mean, a rose logia? Sounds a bit silly. Perhaps a Parmecia admiral which would make him unique in that respect.

modoki
July 21, 2009, 12:02 AM
A white rose does associate in death. Though I find the bloody red long stem types deadly enough

NoLimit89
July 21, 2009, 03:23 AM
pretty sure I've posted this somewhere before a long time ago but

color = logia power
animal = personality

blue pheasant, blue = ice, pheasant = docile/lazy
yellow monkey, yellow = light, monkey = easily bored/absent minded
red dog, red = probably earth - which may include plant life (as I've explained why red on page 2 or 3 of this thread), dog = fanatically loyal and unquestioning

and as I posted before, earth is known as red in many culture. e.g. australian indigenous people had their flag as black stripe, yellow circle, red stripe. the black symbolizes the night sky and the dreaming. the yellow is the sun or light and the red is the earth.

Dark God Zeus
July 21, 2009, 03:44 AM
I'm thinking an earth earth fruit, which would give him some powers relating to plants as well.

For instance, he can plant the rose we see him wear, then quickly fertilize the soil and insta grow the rose, to which he can use Kurama-esque attacks with the rose.

I have no doubt he'll be a logia user, but I can't imagine turning into earth because it's hard and solid. But, I guess if you could do it for ice, earth is within those realms.

Ustegius
July 21, 2009, 07:47 AM
Croc could dry things up with sand, so I could totally buy growing plants with earth/soil/whatever fruit.

But what confuses me now, is the way Akainu is introduced. He hasn't had same kinda grand entrance as Aokiji and Kizaru. He just is there. My thinking comes only to two possible conclusions:

A) Oda is planning on something totally huuge and surprising around him
B) He'll never have too big impact on the storyline

Considering how ominously and mysteriously he has been displayed in Ohara and now (and the simple fact that he is an admiral), I'm leaning towards option A. Though there is still time for proper introduction in this arc.

Akainu
July 21, 2009, 07:55 AM
Well I tend to think that the big impact thing was already shown for him when he still was viceadmiral in Ohara. However we did not see him fighting with his DF and this is the perfect chance imo to do so
+ I totally agree with Modoki that Akainu seems to be the one who would fit the position of fleetadmiral best IF something would happen to Sengoku during the fight or later on. That however would change the face of the marines completly imo and may even provoke mutiny among the rather easy going marines.

modoki
July 21, 2009, 10:40 AM
Oda intended the 3 admirals to have extremely difficult DF abilites and not something easy to extinguish.

Kuzan is ice. Looking closer, its more of a super condensed form of dry ice which irl hurts if we hold in hand. Extremely lazy personality due to the cold air that circulates his body making him sleepy mostly.

Borsalino is light. Another element difficult to extinguish, that is, however you are Teach or simply know a form of haki. That alone is easier said than done. Borsalino seems to have the personality of a nomaad/caveman if you look good enough.

Sakazuki on the other hand... is definitely something hard to extinguish. Sakazuki's personality if im not mistaken could be the reason for his name "dog", tough like a boot camp instructor/full of energy like a red bull drink.


Blue (Ice) Pheasant
Yellow (light)Monkey
Red (??)Dog

*EDIT*
It definitely couldnt be blood, since that would be a big problem once english dubbed in the super far future. But I think you should all take a look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_mercury

If sakazuki is this element, he could be the strongest of the 3 admirals for sure. I will take my chances and gamble on Mercury. This matches his strict personality, an element for bombs, and is red. Found in a thermometer

kkck
July 21, 2009, 10:55 AM
^I think akainu will either be an earth/rock or lava/magma logia. The mercury thing would not be bad though.

Duc :D
July 21, 2009, 11:09 AM
he is definitly (bu t noch 100% xD ) logia user since the others are and Some Earth element seems plausibl in this case and also his strict attitue towards absolute justice is the more dangerous part about him

modoki
July 21, 2009, 11:32 AM
Don Achino, from an anime filler, has the atsu atsu fruit that controlls lava/magma already.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/1/1e/Atsuyaki_Eggs.PNG

kkck
July 21, 2009, 12:46 PM
wasn't he simply capable of heating stuff? He is not cannon anyways so it doesn't matter....

Tomgoood01
July 29, 2009, 12:21 AM
Anyway that red Mercury idea wont work cause there is no such thing as narutal Red Mercury. Red mercury is a compound containing mercury that has undergone irradiation. When exploded, it creates tremendous heat and pressure – the same type needed to trigger a fusion device such as a mini-neutron bomb.

DARK
July 29, 2009, 09:16 AM
I want to believe he has a Devil Fruit fire or heat-related, but two characters, Ace and Don Achino, have the powers of fire and heat, respectively.

arsene.lupin
July 31, 2009, 10:07 AM
i think maybe Akainu ability has something to do with sound. in chapter 551 (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/551/15/), when Whitebeard's Moby Dick about to rise, 3 admiral notice that, but Oda draw focus on Akainu's ear.

deffkryz
July 31, 2009, 11:25 AM
Can't fans just sit and wait until a character shows more than "speaking, breathing, standing, sitting, giving orders and crossing arms"? That's all we actually know about him. Oh wait... He'll surely be able to poop, won't he? That is the purpose of discussion.


wasn't he simply capable of heating stuff? He is not cannon anyways so it doesn't matter....

No, in fact he is sort of canon since Oda created that character all by himself with his abilities. Furthermore Oda stated he won't be using characters and abilities in the manga - so we won't see such a DF power in the manga.

Lord Rayleigh
July 31, 2009, 12:14 PM
I agree that if Oda has shown us Aka Inu's ear in the 551th, it was because it has a special meaning. Otherwise, Oda would not have made a panel with only Aka Inu's ear : he would have just shown normally that Aka Inu noticed what was going to happen.
The more logical thing would be that it has a link with the way he fights.
What can we deduce : the thing is that Aka Inu was the first one to hear something. That means Aka Inu can hear distant sound waves that are under water. The first thing that cames to my mind is that he has a power linked to (sound) waves.
But the problem is that I do not really understand the link with the flower theme. Besides, Apoo already uses sound waves to fight.

Akainu
July 31, 2009, 12:56 PM
Can't fans just sit and wait until a character shows more than "speaking, breathing, standing, sitting, giving orders and crossing arms"? That's all we actually know about him. Oh wait... He'll surely be able to poop, won't he?



No, in fact he is sort of canon since Oda created that character all by himself with his abilities. Furthermore Oda stated he won't be using characters and abilities in the manga - so we won't see such a DF power in the manga.
Just because Oda drew them doesn't mean they are canon. To be canon for the story itself it would have to show some influence in the manga, at least mentioning sth. like ... Luffy: "Oh that guy with the heat ability in the middle of the ice" which we will never see (imo).
That said I have to agree with you, we will have to wait and see what his power is, personality wise we have seen just about enough with the order to sink a ship of Oharan escapees.

Poneglyph420
July 31, 2009, 10:03 PM
More uses of fire or heat might seem redundant. And I hope it's better than that!!
But Canon is Manga...

Dark God Zeus
July 31, 2009, 10:39 PM
Yellow Monkey- the fruit Borsalino uses is colored yellow.

Blue pheasent- fruit Aokiji uses is blue.

Red dog- I'm guessing the element will be colored red, and will be a logia. With this, since he wears a rose, I am guessing his power will be the bara bara no mi, or rose rose fruit. It's been done in anime before (cough, kurama), and can't you just imagine hitting him without haki and akainu breaking down into rose petals!

Perhaps he places his rose on the ground, and can accelerate it's growth to create large vinewhips, thorns, etc.

Shadoguardian
August 03, 2009, 06:53 AM
Don Achino, from an anime filler, has the atsu atsu fruit that controlls lava/magma already.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/1/1e/Atsuyaki_Eggs.PNG

I thought he had thae ability to control heat. I don't think he had the ability to control the magma itself.

Also note that Akainu is wearing gloves. Could this be because of his ability?

zerocooldx
August 03, 2009, 07:21 AM
I agree that if Oda has shown us Aka Inu's ear in the 551th, it was because it has a special meaning. Otherwise, Oda would not have made a panel with only Aka Inu's ear : he would have just shown normally that Aka Inu noticed what was going to happen.
The more logical thing would be that it has a link with the way he fights.
What can we deduce : the thing is that Aka Inu was the first one to hear something. That means Aka Inu can hear distant sound waves that are under water. The first thing that cames to my mind is that he has a power linked to (sound) waves.
But the problem is that I do not really understand the link with the flower theme. Besides, Apoo already uses sound waves to fight.

I don't think that means all that much, because Oda showed (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/551/15/) all three Admirals being aware of the sound, at the same time. Then he showed Akainu's ear, most likely to show that they heard what was happening. And then even Sengoku and Garp are shown to have heard something, hell even average Marines heard some type of a sound. But again, all three Admirals apparently became aware of the sound at the same time. Now if Oda showed us Akainu's ear first then there may be something there, but that wasen't the case. If anything that was just Oda showing us that the thing the Admirals had detected was because of sound. Otherwise he would have made the situation much more specific to Akainu if he was trying to tell us something about him.

beastboy
August 04, 2009, 03:25 PM
I think Aka Inu power is not related to heat, fire, nor magma.
If I am correct he has a red power, and almost certainely a logia.
And earth doesn't seem a good power just cause we were introduced in last chap to a quake man.
Rose would be cool, something like byakuya's power, but that is to much like buggy and the DF would probably have the same name has buggy's(bara bara no mi - rose rose no mi)
So I exclude that.
So there are only one simple and red element, blood that would be quite awesome but (to variate) I also doubt of it.
So I have no more Ideas, but here is my argument to why I don't think this powers are the ones that will be Aka Inu's powers.

Dark God Zeus
August 15, 2009, 01:33 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/301/06/

Ok, now the line I am talking about is only said in the anime while Zoro is training in Skypia, but you'd have to be hard pressed to say it doesn't fit in/isn't canon with One Piece.

http://onepieceofbleach.com/one-piece-194/

At about 8:30 Zoro is training when he is thinking "Water, Light, Fire. The elements that destroy".

Maybe it's stretching it, but I don't think Zoro saying Light was a coincidence.

Ice: Aokiji's DF, and the solid form of water. Since water IS the weakness of all DF, we don't know if there even is a mizu mizu no mi, so for now ice is the closest thing to water.

Light: Kizaru's DF

Fire: Ace's DF, but here is where akainu comes in. A common theory has been lava/volcano man, and I think akainu will fulfill that. Former is basically a solid form of fire, latter can give lava/ash.

We know that for admirals, failure is not tolerated. They are the single strongest forces within the marines.

Eh, maybe a stretch, I just watched this episode yesterday and thought about it.

Freakzin
August 15, 2009, 04:26 PM
in a filler episode there was a lava lava man. and oda said on a SBS that it doesn't matter if filler is made up stuff, DF's used on fillers will not repeat in canon story.

Akainu
August 15, 2009, 04:36 PM
I don't remember seeing a lava man, only a "heat" man (Don Accino) that could produce heat and thus handle lava which is a whole diffrent category though ^^'

deffkryz
August 15, 2009, 07:42 PM
in a filler episode there was a lava lava man. and oda said on a SBS that it doesn't matter if filler is made up stuff, DF's used on fillers will not repeat in canon story.

There only were:

Don Acchino who was an atsu atsu man, being able to control his body temperature (atsu atsu means "cooking")
and Bear King who was a kachi kachi man, being able to harden body parts and heating them up (kachi kachi means "tic-tac"/"being inflexible")


Don Acchino was "hot" enough to melt rock to lava that's right - but he was not a "lava man".

I came up with a トロトロの実 (toro toro no mi) as lava fruit and made this up from トロイデ (toroide) which means "Lava dome"/"Volcanic dome"/"tholoid". But there are at least three different meanings to トロトロ (torotoro): "sleepy" or "simmering" or "soft". But its name was already taken by a movie for Honey Queen's ability.

Those being able to speak and understand Japanese may stop laughing now - I'm going back to my deep and dark hole. ;)

Zeltrax
August 16, 2009, 07:20 AM
My guess:

空 Kū or sora, most often translated as "Void", but also meaning "sky" or "Heaven", represents those things beyond our everyday experience, particularly those things composed of pure energy. Bodily, kū represents spirit, thought, and creative energy. It represents our ability to think and to communicate, as well as our creativity. It can also be associated with power, creativity, spontaneity, and inventiveness.
Kū is of particular importance as the highest of the elements. In martial arts, particularly in fictional tales where the fighting discipline is blended with magic or the occult, one often invokes the power of the Void to connect to the quintessential creative energy of the world. A warrior properly attuned to the Void can sense his surrounding and act without thinking, and without using his physical senses
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_(Japanese_philosophy)

Reason for guess:
A warrior properly attuned to the Void can sense his surrounding and act without thinking, and without using his physical senses
-Basically this explains the reason why Oda drew the ear.

represents those things beyond our everyday experience, particularly those things composed of pure energy.
-I think we need something dif than light and ice, "pure energy" . Making akainu special and we all know he needs to be special, considering being --the last admiral that haven't showed us his df.

where the fighting discipline is blended with magic or the occult, one often invokes the power of the Void to connect to the quintessential creative energy of the world.
-Magicians and people that have to do with occult are rare in one piece, that's why

& To top it all up, the name of the fruit, Void Void Mi. Sora sora mi.
Its an element in japan too.

EDITED: or the Air air fruit, considering he wear a rose shirt. I mean, all things in the world need oxygen right? Plants need em for photosynthesis..etc.
And air fruit is gonna be real powerful, as in an sbs oda said he's the strongest out of the admirals.

Dice
August 16, 2009, 08:18 AM
Could you give as the quote where it was said that he is the strongest? I just can't rememeber anything like that^^.
But anyway: nice thoughts you got there.