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Koen
August 02, 2006, 04:37 PM
yow,

we are happy to release a new awesome chapter of zan.

WHAT CHAPTER9 IS RELEASED GET IT NOW!!!!

enjoy this chapter 009: a new gang, with cool fights seems. Man this manga is awesome... ENJOY IT!!!

DL: http://jump-scans.pillars-gaming.com/?page_id=5
or join jump-scans@irc.highway.net

comments, story etc... just discuss it

barbapapa
August 02, 2006, 04:47 PM
Gonna merge this with the previous topic; just post your releases in one topic please :)

Congrats with the release ;)

DaNewb
August 08, 2006, 09:16 PM
Chapter 03 just released::
Send Space (http://www.sendspace.com/file/4irfrj)
Torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BJump-Phoenix%5DZan_ch003.zip.torrent)

Brought to you by Phoenix and Jump Scans.
Enjoy

*PS* We know it's LQ/MQ, but it's Jump raws and we don't have the man-power to make it HQ any time soon.

Koen
August 09, 2006, 02:30 AM
yeah,

our editors worked hard on that shitty lq-raw and then one day after their work, a HQ-raw pops up (lame situation). But anyways thank you to void, nedkiller, the_worm, danewb, and others who worked on it...

NeoShweaty
August 09, 2006, 10:47 PM
yeah, you should wait instead for the hq raw that ALWAYS pops up. (then again, zan isnt high quality no matter how you slice it. Yeah...im not a big fan of the art or the manga.)

dd_santo
August 20, 2006, 04:58 AM
neo is right, the art is something I dislike. I read all three chaps but I'll still give it a shot because the story suits me. And why are two groups doing it. Really lame

La_Muerte
August 20, 2006, 06:31 AM
theres nothing lame about two groups doing it, why are two groups doing naruto, one piece, bleach and just about every other manga, if were lame then everybody else is lame.

dd_santo
August 20, 2006, 07:44 AM
theres nothing lame about two groups doing it, why are two groups doing naruto, one piece, bleach and just about every other manga, if were lame then everybody else is lame.


Hmmm. Man is this realism: one piece, naruto, bleach are far more popular than zan. It's logical that there are more groups doing it, though I regret that too: null and rush could do one piece faster and better if working together. Look to mxo: groups have joined there in a joint project called ossu. A new group's name doing mxo. What is ossu: it's illuminati, kefi,... They could decide doing mxo all alone. But that would be just lame. For me, ossu is a great idea.

Don't tell me zan is so populars, that two groups doing it is logical on itself. I read the scans not for the art, but only for the story. You both did c001 as a joint, and then you decided doing it both the groups alone. Man that's what I call stupid...

Koen
August 20, 2006, 08:11 AM
guys: this is a zan discussion thread, not a scanlator-group-fact thread. Go talk it out somewhere else except in this thread please....

kazekage_shinagami
August 20, 2006, 08:21 AM
Thanks keep 'em coming guys

Koen
August 26, 2006, 02:30 AM
*updated* chapter 4 is avilable

dd_santo
August 26, 2006, 02:59 AM
well, good works guys (read both releases) and I am starting to like zan even more...

Nice work

ssjohn
August 26, 2006, 02:07 PM
Zan 5 should be out soon but to all of you Zan fan's that know who Jesse McCartney is (and have heard his new song 'Right where you Want me') enjoy this page ^_^

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9986/jokeuv2.png

(XD i did this page during my let's see how many times i can play this song .. I got buged about it by a freind and so i came up with the idea to do this :P for those of you who do not know who he is he is a Pop singer in the USA >.< )

Koen
August 27, 2006, 06:57 AM
*updated*[br]Posted on: August 27, 2006, 07:47:20 AM_________________________________________________Any comments about the manga... about the characters: this is not only a release thread but also a discussion thread. Zan has potential and certainly people should give it a chance

dd_santo
August 27, 2006, 07:40 AM
wooooowww, you guys are fast releasing zan. Great chapter and great story. I begin to like the art. I think it is a matter of adaption to it. In the beginning I didn't like zan-art, but Now I like it a lot. This is a great shounen, though I hope the background won't stay around the school or on the roof of it :p

ssjohn
August 27, 2006, 07:59 AM
lol :P yea i know in the start i didnt like the art but im starting to get use to it now ^_^.

I think the school / roof setting will just be for now i think once we hit the first Major story line the story is realie going to get good. Lets just hope it makes it that far ^_^

dd_santo
August 27, 2006, 10:13 AM
lol :P yea i know in the start i didnt like the art but im starting to get use to it now ^_^.

I think the school / roof setting will just be for now i think once we hit the first Major story line the story is realie going to get good. Lets just hope it makes it that far ^_^


Yeah you are probably right. It has to be like introducing a bit characters, zan, situation and other things. Would not be suprised if other interesting arcs would come out...

Koen
August 27, 2006, 11:14 AM
I kinda agree too. Atm you can only say zan will be action shounen, but you do not know where the story will go to. And I certainly have high hopes of zan getting better. Zan certainly has potential and people saying the art sucks, I only say read more and you'll adapt to it. Give zan a chance...

ssjohn
August 27, 2006, 11:40 AM
Here is a Zan related qustion how is it doing in Japan? do they like it ? or is it in same spot as Tsugihagi was in before it ended early?

NeoShweaty
August 27, 2006, 12:26 PM
it is near the middle but more towards the bottom of the newest ToC (15th of 21) (on a side note, i am glad over time is doing pretty well as it cracked the top 10 in jump.)

Koen
August 27, 2006, 12:36 PM
yeah, but you can not say for zan it's doing bad atm... it's already 5 chapters far and it hasn't still been in de danger zone, compared to other new shounen that came out. Btw, how are these things decide (because mieru hito is on the lowest part for ages and but is luckily still ongoing)

NeoShweaty
August 27, 2006, 01:10 PM
they have polls that they ask and it determines the position like 8 weeks ahead i think

Koen
August 27, 2006, 01:21 PM
And... that's how they decided dropping something or not? Lame, okay a magazine has to be sold better. But isn't it logical that except for popular, there's something like alternative. You can't make a mag comepletely out of op, naruto,... I am glad there are alternative manga like zan, muhyo, mieru hito,...

-> me glad too, over time is doing well

NeoShweaty
August 27, 2006, 01:24 PM
it probably isnt only that but you have to make money of of the manga in the magazine and if people dont like it then what can do about it.

barbapapa
August 27, 2006, 01:37 PM
"alternative" ? lol.
There are no alternative series in Jump. There's even no such thing as alternative shounen, shounen in itself IS mainstream.
There's just hits and not-hits.

I can't get over the fact that 2 groups are actually scanlating Zan.

Koen
August 27, 2006, 01:49 PM
well believe, our hits on zan are really high... you could be suprised!

and by alternative I don't mean like in none-shounen, I mean like more a-typical, different shounen. e.g. tsugihagi that was so no mainstream, just like d. gray-man imo is...[br]Posted on: August 27, 2006, 02:49:12 PM_________________________________________________oh, and two groups are doing zan (if it depends on me, it's not) but how many groups are doing bleach, one piece, naruto,...

blaaarrrggg

NeoShweaty
August 27, 2006, 01:51 PM
zan's popularity BAFFLES me, but despite that, it was apparently appealing enough from the start for two groups to do it.

also, i have a feeling that Mieru Hito is going to be cut in the next batch of series that end, so enjoy while you can.

barbapapa
August 27, 2006, 02:16 PM
Might be, it barely escaped getting cut before since other series were even worse.
Chances are next time, 2 series will be cut and Murusame is as sure as anything to go.

The thing is with Shonen Jump, their biggest hit ever was Dragonball. And you can clearly see that the most succesfull series in Jump right now are pretty much influenced by Dragonball; so it's safe to say this type of shounen is Jump's trademark.
That's just the way things are.
If you want to read a-typical shounen, Shonen Sunday has a much better line-up. Kekkaishi and Yakitate Japan come to mind.

Basically the stuff that gets published in Jump are succesfull Dragonball-influenced series, or unsuccesfull.
With a few exceptions like Death Note. (how that ever was in Jump is a mystery to me)

ssjohn
August 27, 2006, 02:52 PM
Barbapapa - Maybe that had something to do with the author and hng? maybe they made a deal they would do there next magna with jump or something >.> And also DB is the HUGE standered manga's have to look at now i mean how long has it been over and japan and its still huge ... *btw don't ask about my nick >_> (ss=supersayain)*

T__T @ murasamekun / mieru mite be being cut T__T but i personly havent enjoyed Murasame-kun from the raws i have looked at it looks ok but its not Naruto so >.>

@ 2 groups doing zan . Well that shocks me too >.> i mean jump-scans isnt going to stop doing it but im shocked that there are 2 doing Zan and no one's doing other manga's like um the new BoBoBo or Murasamekun or Neruo or something >.> there only should be one group / two max per manga but we all see how many groups do the big 3 (bleach, one piece, naruto) O well.

oceanizer
August 27, 2006, 05:32 PM
Why don't you guys just cooperate -__-; I mean... Why do you always have to release some other series UNDER your name? :/ As long as the stuff gets out, aren't you happy? At least I am.

In the past, I've helped countless groups (okay, fine, about 5-7 groups) with their translation when they're lacking. I still do help several groups with translation so that the series get on going. And I don't ask them to include KEFI name on the release. Sometimes I even ask NOT to include my name. But whatever group wants to help KEFI project (usually new groups) always ask for their name to be on it... Bleh.


As for Zan, I still probably rank it lower than some other series. I like Neuro better actually. And Gintama. I mean, Gintama's so popular in Japan and no one scanlate it :/

barbapapa
August 27, 2006, 05:36 PM
Problem with Gintama is.... when translated to English, the comedy doesnt work that well anymore :x
+ its licensed...

Koen
August 27, 2006, 05:37 PM
well ocean, zan that's what you think of it. Everybody their taste.

oceanizer
August 27, 2006, 05:41 PM
What? Gintama's licensed? Man, they're licensing everything now, huh? I bet it won't do much good... As for those Japanese cultural references, I only read up to v2, but it's bypass-able... I mean, Yakitate had so many cultural references, too.

Koen
August 27, 2006, 05:44 PM
yeah

and yoropiko told me that translating gintama is really difficult. the jokes seems so japanese-traditional -> making it difficult for translating gintama

but guys this is a zan discussion. tell me what you like and dislike about it... just like a keep it about fairy tail in your discussion

barbapapa
August 27, 2006, 05:52 PM
Yeah let's keep it on-topic. Sorry about that.

I for one am not fond of Zan. :)
But either way, with new series that dont appeal to me right away.. I prefer to just not read them til there's a good amount available. Or til it's licensed/gets an anime.

La_Muerte
August 27, 2006, 06:03 PM
i know its off-topic but since u guys where talking about me, this is why i do Zan by myself:

i started doing zan as a one man project(i even posted it here that i was doing it), then somebody from Koenosakis group contacted me and said that he wanted to help me do it since nobody in their group had as much interest in doing it, so me and his group member started doing it and then he and his team jumped in the bandwagon. so its not that i dont wanna do Zan with a group, its that its my goal to do it in my group. besides koenosaki didnt trust me in the beginning even though his cleaner thats helping me out did, so i would say its also a trust issue.

so Zan is a goal that was set by me, and i am trying to do my best to complete that, my team will keep doing Zan until it ends, and i dotn think it will end soon.

barbapapa
August 27, 2006, 06:46 PM
I will temporarily lock this to prevent further flaming and whatnot. Will reopen this lateron.

Reopened, now keep it civil and on-topic or I will permanently close it.

Koen
August 29, 2006, 02:57 AM
it is near the middle but more towards the bottom of the newest ToC (15th of 21) (on a side note, i am glad over time is doing pretty well as it cracked the top 10 in jump.)



Hmmmm.... zan is n°7 now in ToC, it is just near the popular manga like naruto, bleach,... And D. Gray-man has risen up a lot too. But what To Love-ru. Man I do not get anything of that ToC? For some manga they always stay on their place. But muhyo and to love-ru who were at the top are now below...

Hurray for zan, for getting in the top :p

NeoShweaty
August 29, 2006, 03:25 AM
The things in the middle always fluctuate. A series has to be mssively popular or really bad to stay in one place. (also, i said that like two days ago so things changed)

dd_santo
August 30, 2006, 08:27 AM
well I am sure zan will gain more popularity, it may seem difficult to base that only on five chaps but somehow I get the feeling this is a manga that weekly shounen jump needed compared to similar shounen like bleach-mieru hito/ murasame-kun-katekyo hitman reborn...

Don't say they are the same but somehow a lot of shounen are similar. While zan for me is kinda different by its art and story

Koen
August 31, 2006, 02:09 PM
Well, I hope zan will become popular, but somehow I don't hope it too -> if zan gains popularity like others: more groups doing it :s

The latest chapter confirmed that zan is still good but I do not hope that things will get dragged like this continuosly...

xallisto
September 01, 2006, 09:41 PM
Zan is pretty good so far, but then its only 5 chapters, so long as it dosent keep on at this pace then it should prove to be pretty good ;)

Koen
September 03, 2006, 07:08 AM
updated: we have released zan c006 -> discuss it here

dd_santo
September 03, 2006, 12:26 PM
well, the story is certainly interesting. New character and great story, with a good ending. Though I hope that there will come longer arcs but then again which shounen don't start with short arcs...

ThE WoRm
September 03, 2006, 07:56 PM
getting into a long arc in the start is suicidle for every manga, the first couple of chaps are like... Get to know everything you need to know, and then let's go into the arcs.

now that zan has tsuranuki as his first friend, there is a long way to go before the gang of zan will be complete, first tsukishima needs to get into the fun too, or something like that.

She was missing for 3 chaps, it felt kinda lonely with only... 3 characters (if you count the girl) for 3 chaps...

It should get better now ^^"

ddadain
September 04, 2006, 05:02 AM
Next time, lemme QC for you guys ._. Prevents typos >_<!!! XD :P

Koen
September 04, 2006, 05:56 AM
Next time, lemme QC for you guys ._. Prevents typos >_<!!! XD :P


Thank you a lot, we'll take that offer. And what about the story? any comments?

ddadain
September 05, 2006, 02:02 AM
Hehehe...

I read a lot in the lines...

General Impression:

Zan's alter-ego is ************
Zan will go through some kind of tourney *Yes! Imma expecting the worst case scenario XD*
Zan's parents will come into the plotline *like PoT*

Overall, I like the pacing so far :D

The weird art, the ugly girls, the coolness of every male character wearing low waist pants! *woot woot* XD

[br]Posted on: September 04, 2006, 09:21:18 AM_________________________________________________On one note, I still haven't been given access or I cannot find where it is hidden ;_;

>_<

ThE WoRm
September 07, 2006, 05:35 PM
Well, the script for chapter 7 for jump-scans is up, here it is:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8368.0

Dain, if you want to help QC and stuff (I hope you include proof inside) you can go and QC that :P

Tranquil Melancholy
September 14, 2006, 09:08 AM
We are happy to release a new awesome chapter of zan.

CHAPTER 7 IS RELEASED GET IT NOW!!!!

ENJOY!

DL: http://jump-scans.pillars-gaming.com/?page_id=5
or join jump-scans@irc.highway.net

comments, story etc... just discuss it here

ThE WoRm
September 21, 2006, 10:26 AM
Here is the translation for chapter 8 :P for jump-scans use :P

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8614.0[br]Posted on: September 14, 2006, 10:32:48 PM_________________________________________________And now the translation for 9
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8906.0

And it'll be a good idea to post a post saying "A new release, Yeah!!" When you release a new chapter :P

congrats on chapter 8 :P

Koen
September 21, 2006, 11:48 AM
cool, great the_worm -> you're so into zan and awesome... do you like zan?

ddadain
September 21, 2006, 11:27 PM
Grats on chapter 8 -_-;

I know I said I'd spell/grammar check for you guys but I just found out where I can find the translations >_< Oh well... besides that, most of my time is getting eaten up by school work AND house work AND my computer at home went kablooeh (literally) ._. SO...

I have 40 minutes left before lunch time (I have a free lesson before lunch time @ school XD every friday)... I'll go do whatever~!

Grats again...

Can't see the thing now since my school's computers dislike showing (DOESN'T SHOW) png pictures XD -_-; har har -_- XD

ThE WoRm
September 28, 2006, 08:03 AM
Here is chapter 10 translation! :P
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=9117.0

Koen
September 28, 2006, 12:41 PM
k zan chapter 9 is released, and we hope we can work faster on 10

ddadain
September 29, 2006, 04:25 AM
Grats on c9 although... the thing I proofread wasn't used for typesetting XD Ha~

But, whatever o_o :D

I'll go see c10 ~_~ gotta finish my homework first -_-;

Asakura
October 02, 2006, 05:21 PM
Why don't you guys just cooperate -__-; I mean... Why do you always have to release some other series UNDER your name? :/ As long as the stuff gets out, aren't you happy? At least I am.

In the past, I've helped countless groups (okay, fine, about 5-7 groups) with their translation when they're lacking. I still do help several groups with translation so that the series get on going. And I don't ask them to include KEFI name on the release. Sometimes I even ask NOT to include my name. But whatever group wants to help KEFI project (usually new groups) always ask for their name to be on it... Bleh.


As for Zan, I still probably rank it lower than some other series. I like Neuro better actually. And Gintama. I mean, Gintama's so popular in Japan and no one scanlate it :/


Well ossan... if you haven't noticed... M7 recently picked up Gintama after yanime dropped it ;P

And about Neuro... well... i had my eyes on it for a while too and it wont be too long before I pick it up for a group XD (i have all the volumes 1-7~)

ThE WoRm
October 05, 2006, 01:49 PM
Well, I'm here :P chapter 11:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=9386.0

Maxy Barnard
October 15, 2006, 02:31 PM
This series is really criminally ignored in weekly jump by the look of it.

Thanks, jump scanlations, you've supplied some brilliant scanlations!