neomaster121
August 29, 2008, 07:38 PM
One Piece 512 Zoro vanished
Well after the last few chapter’s which to be honest have been great it ended last week with Zoro being saved by silver and with that everything seemed to be going much better.
CP9 Doing their thing!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/1-4.png
Brilliant cover page as always, when the marines are trying to kill the cp9 members and they are pretty much on the run that’s when they do good by the people, rather than working for the corrupt world government. Good work Cp9 and look the people’s celebrations, there huge.
Well onto the chapter
Luffy’s Smart Commands
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With Zoro down, Luffy has only one order and that is to escape. This is one of luffy most smart and most important orders. With this fight I think comparisons to their first meeting with an admiral have to be made. Back then when they fought Aokiji the crew had no idea of the true power of the admirals but now without hesitation, even if silver is helping out Luffy, now with more experience Luffy needs no help in knowing what to do. It’s good to see that he’s grown up and knows at the moment his crew can’t beat these guys.
Crew on the run!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/3-4.png
So after the order to run Franky uses his last bit of Cola to blow their px 1 attacker as far away as possible. The only thing which I have to say about this is it again shows franky’s limitation, and it’s a limitation which is undeniable, for no matter how strong franky is once you’ve made him use a few coup de vent’s he’s out of cola, and out of the fight. But this attack did do what was needed to help his team run away.
So with everyone on the run Luffy thanks the old man, but as Apoo unfortunately found out kizaru doesn’t allow people to run away from him that easily. But one thing the strawhats have to their advantage that Apoo didn’t have… and it’s Silver.
A Swordsman who can cut light
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/4-4.png
So like Zoro, silver is revealed to be a swordsman, which in itself shows a bit of Zoro’s future connection he may have to silver, but more importantly is what Silver is actually doing. Remembering Apoo being hit this is a beam of light. Now before the beam reaches and hits Zoro’s group Silver cuts through it. I admit it looks similar to how Apoo blew him up but two things. The attack stops and also Brookes said he had cut through him and failed. Now this obviously shows us no devil fruit is needed, and also it not a seastone sword but I’ll explain this further on.
Just a thought though, if silver is a swordsman then this is yet another glimpse into Mi hawks power as a swordsman, he should be able to cut nothing. Zoro’s master once said swordsmen who can cut nothing are the true swordsmen. This is what I believe is direct reference to logia users. They as an element can be said to be nothing. Yet silver can hit him and even cut through their attacks.
No seastones at all
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/5-4.png
Now I’m sure there are still people thinking Silver must be using a seastone sword. But let me just make one thing clear. If this was the case, the sword created by a devil fruit users ability would dissipated as soon as it touches silvers sword. And in this picture nothing is being used other than the sword. So its confirmed Silver is using neither a devil fruit or a seastone sword, and with this scene Oda has perfectly shown us there is another way to fight logia without the two, the only problem is how.
Again confirmed by this
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/6-4.png
He’s bleeding, no logia bled due to a normal sword attack and as I said above it’s a normal sword since the sword of light is actually touching it as if it was a normal sword, and did not disappear.
Sanji leaves nami?
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/7-4.png
Firstly Px1 scanner thingy is so cool, look at that I want one of those ^_^
But on a serious note, sanji leaving nami to us doesn’t seem like a big thing but after this nami for sure should be thinking what’s going on with Zoro. I say this because for all nami knows Sanji would never leave her side; to her this is majorly out of character. It also shows us that sanji must really see Zoro as a friend if he was willing to leave a women friend for Zoro.
The following page Zoro acting like a man even in the worst condition already realising that they are after him and that ussop and brookes are slowed down because of him he already asks to be let go to face the enemy to be captured or more likely killed.
This heard by Brookes makes him make the decision to stop and face the enemy even if it is just to slow them down
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/8-4.png
But it didn’t end well. Brookes you can say this, you went down like a man. (nod my head and salute)
What’s further interesting is sanji’s Diablo technique
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/9-4.png
I for one have always assumed that if Sanji used his Diablo attack then he would easily break threw kuma’s body of whatever it was made out of but then reading this I remembered. When he faced the cp9 it wasn’t that he broke through his tekkai but more that the heat of the kick did the most damage. Now what would heat do to a robot, who shoots lasers which can melt metal like it was nothing. It also shows a weakness sanji has yet to overcome and again causes more damage to sanji than it did to the kuma bot. So in the combo that the crew did together to defeat px 4 seems like the main damage was caused by the px itself and Zoro and luffy.
You speak the true Kizaru!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/10-2.png
Ever since ennies lobbies and their truly lucky escape, I’ve realised the weakness this crew has due to a lack of numbers, once the main fighters have won and are weak the enemies subordinates can just swoop in and capture the weakened crew members, but in this the subordinates would have been hard enough to defeat or run from at full strength let alone in their current condition. It’s something which we saw in tb with kuma attacking, and the crew are kinda like when they fought oz but weakened and without Zoro instead of luffy. I wonder if they got the chance would they try Crew docking but with luffy instead of robin hahaha.
The guy with the strongest defence
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/11.png
It’s simple; this guy is the nephew of an admiral and is also in charge of defending one of the wg most important minds… Vegapunk. Either vegapunk has done something to his senior bodyguard’s body or he to as I said in my previous review using haki to boost his attacks and nullify df users, similar but not as good as silver. Chopper just tells us plainly that these attacks on luffy shouldn’t be hurting him, but what do expect chopper, he is Vegapunk’s bodyguard of course he’s strong.
Why chopper Why?
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/12.png
As we saw in ennies lobby chopper takes a 3rd rumble ball and transforms, but don’t forget what’s really happening, chopper is watching his crew members fall one by one and thinks just like in ennies lobby’s there’s no hope for a win, in fact he also should know how damaging this form is to him, cause really all chopper is doing is killing himself to buy time for his crew to escape, so sad that chopper had to result to this instead of finding a new way to get stronger.
Robin has also shown herself to be the women who knows all the going ons of the crew, she even knew about choppers monster form and without hesitation picks luffy up and makes a run for it.
Time for the Real Kuma to enter the stage
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/13.png
Well with this there is so much that’s going on so I’m gonna focus on Zoro’s statement here. What mercy did Kuma show Zoro? Is it the fact that he’s only alive right that second because he stopped the PX1 attack, possible but I believe unlikely.
My theory is that he was thanking him for the act on tb. Zoro was going to exchange his head for luffy, but before that, kuma was holding luffy up about to finish him off for good. So why didn’t he use the same attack he was going to use on luffy on Zoro instead of the pain transfer attack. I believe Zoro realises like mihawk, kuma gave Zoro a chance if not slightly a chance of survival in which Zoro took, but the effects are still on until this day.
Bye-bye Zoro
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/14.png
And with the question, Zoro disappears. There are so many places Zoro could have been sent, but there are 2 places I know for sure Zoro hasn’t been sent to. Those are to marine’s main jail, why ask Zoro where to go if he was going to send him straight to jail. The other is to where one piece actually is hehehe.
I believe that using his paw fruit he deflects the teleportation power of his book to his opponent, I also think that’s why he asks you where you want to go because without you saying it he can’t send you anywhere. If this is the case Zoro could be almost anywhere: somewhere old or somewhere new, to face mihawk or to train with his old dojo master, to rest on the ship or to some random island. But with Zoro’s vivre card he can find silver without a problem, 3 days should be enough to get back if he was sent far enough, and I also think this could result in a mini Zoro arc in which he rest, trains and heals up to come back to the group stronger than ever, with a new more subtle way of fighting, similar to mihawk and the way he diverted those bullets when he first appeared.
In conclusion
What an action packed chapter, just so much to defer and ponder about and I hope the parts of which I’ve covered I covered well.
I rate this chapter a great 9 out of 10
Pretty much all great I loving the mini sword fight of silver and kizaru
The strawhats falling one by one for Zoro is just so awesome
The real kuma appearing is just so epic
My theory
I think that kuma their for only one reason
To collect the admiral and the marine mini force
If we remember the beginning of the admiral’s arrival it started with Kizaru breaking his receiver. The only one who could make it in time to get kizaru and the mini force back to fight wb in time would be kuma, who could teleport himself there in a second and teleport the admiral and co back just as fast, I think sending Zoro away was to save his life but wherever Zoro is, I’m sure it’s where he’s asked to be, and if it is to mi hawk this should be on marijoea ready to fight wb and not too far from the crew.
Prediction
As in my theory I believe Zoro is close and that kizaru and co will be leaving soon I don’t know how the chopper situation is gonna be resolved but if vegapunks body guard can nullify peoples fruit if only slightly a few hits should be good enough to take chopper down without killing him.
Oda pretty much is unpredictable n I wouldn’t be surprised if he cut to law and kid or did something else completely different.
Well after the last few chapter’s which to be honest have been great it ended last week with Zoro being saved by silver and with that everything seemed to be going much better.
CP9 Doing their thing!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/1-4.png
Brilliant cover page as always, when the marines are trying to kill the cp9 members and they are pretty much on the run that’s when they do good by the people, rather than working for the corrupt world government. Good work Cp9 and look the people’s celebrations, there huge.
Well onto the chapter
Luffy’s Smart Commands
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/2-4.png
With Zoro down, Luffy has only one order and that is to escape. This is one of luffy most smart and most important orders. With this fight I think comparisons to their first meeting with an admiral have to be made. Back then when they fought Aokiji the crew had no idea of the true power of the admirals but now without hesitation, even if silver is helping out Luffy, now with more experience Luffy needs no help in knowing what to do. It’s good to see that he’s grown up and knows at the moment his crew can’t beat these guys.
Crew on the run!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/3-4.png
So after the order to run Franky uses his last bit of Cola to blow their px 1 attacker as far away as possible. The only thing which I have to say about this is it again shows franky’s limitation, and it’s a limitation which is undeniable, for no matter how strong franky is once you’ve made him use a few coup de vent’s he’s out of cola, and out of the fight. But this attack did do what was needed to help his team run away.
So with everyone on the run Luffy thanks the old man, but as Apoo unfortunately found out kizaru doesn’t allow people to run away from him that easily. But one thing the strawhats have to their advantage that Apoo didn’t have… and it’s Silver.
A Swordsman who can cut light
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/4-4.png
So like Zoro, silver is revealed to be a swordsman, which in itself shows a bit of Zoro’s future connection he may have to silver, but more importantly is what Silver is actually doing. Remembering Apoo being hit this is a beam of light. Now before the beam reaches and hits Zoro’s group Silver cuts through it. I admit it looks similar to how Apoo blew him up but two things. The attack stops and also Brookes said he had cut through him and failed. Now this obviously shows us no devil fruit is needed, and also it not a seastone sword but I’ll explain this further on.
Just a thought though, if silver is a swordsman then this is yet another glimpse into Mi hawks power as a swordsman, he should be able to cut nothing. Zoro’s master once said swordsmen who can cut nothing are the true swordsmen. This is what I believe is direct reference to logia users. They as an element can be said to be nothing. Yet silver can hit him and even cut through their attacks.
No seastones at all
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/5-4.png
Now I’m sure there are still people thinking Silver must be using a seastone sword. But let me just make one thing clear. If this was the case, the sword created by a devil fruit users ability would dissipated as soon as it touches silvers sword. And in this picture nothing is being used other than the sword. So its confirmed Silver is using neither a devil fruit or a seastone sword, and with this scene Oda has perfectly shown us there is another way to fight logia without the two, the only problem is how.
Again confirmed by this
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/6-4.png
He’s bleeding, no logia bled due to a normal sword attack and as I said above it’s a normal sword since the sword of light is actually touching it as if it was a normal sword, and did not disappear.
Sanji leaves nami?
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/7-4.png
Firstly Px1 scanner thingy is so cool, look at that I want one of those ^_^
But on a serious note, sanji leaving nami to us doesn’t seem like a big thing but after this nami for sure should be thinking what’s going on with Zoro. I say this because for all nami knows Sanji would never leave her side; to her this is majorly out of character. It also shows us that sanji must really see Zoro as a friend if he was willing to leave a women friend for Zoro.
The following page Zoro acting like a man even in the worst condition already realising that they are after him and that ussop and brookes are slowed down because of him he already asks to be let go to face the enemy to be captured or more likely killed.
This heard by Brookes makes him make the decision to stop and face the enemy even if it is just to slow them down
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/8-4.png
But it didn’t end well. Brookes you can say this, you went down like a man. (nod my head and salute)
What’s further interesting is sanji’s Diablo technique
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/9-4.png
I for one have always assumed that if Sanji used his Diablo attack then he would easily break threw kuma’s body of whatever it was made out of but then reading this I remembered. When he faced the cp9 it wasn’t that he broke through his tekkai but more that the heat of the kick did the most damage. Now what would heat do to a robot, who shoots lasers which can melt metal like it was nothing. It also shows a weakness sanji has yet to overcome and again causes more damage to sanji than it did to the kuma bot. So in the combo that the crew did together to defeat px 4 seems like the main damage was caused by the px itself and Zoro and luffy.
You speak the true Kizaru!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/10-2.png
Ever since ennies lobbies and their truly lucky escape, I’ve realised the weakness this crew has due to a lack of numbers, once the main fighters have won and are weak the enemies subordinates can just swoop in and capture the weakened crew members, but in this the subordinates would have been hard enough to defeat or run from at full strength let alone in their current condition. It’s something which we saw in tb with kuma attacking, and the crew are kinda like when they fought oz but weakened and without Zoro instead of luffy. I wonder if they got the chance would they try Crew docking but with luffy instead of robin hahaha.
The guy with the strongest defence
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/11.png
It’s simple; this guy is the nephew of an admiral and is also in charge of defending one of the wg most important minds… Vegapunk. Either vegapunk has done something to his senior bodyguard’s body or he to as I said in my previous review using haki to boost his attacks and nullify df users, similar but not as good as silver. Chopper just tells us plainly that these attacks on luffy shouldn’t be hurting him, but what do expect chopper, he is Vegapunk’s bodyguard of course he’s strong.
Why chopper Why?
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/12.png
As we saw in ennies lobby chopper takes a 3rd rumble ball and transforms, but don’t forget what’s really happening, chopper is watching his crew members fall one by one and thinks just like in ennies lobby’s there’s no hope for a win, in fact he also should know how damaging this form is to him, cause really all chopper is doing is killing himself to buy time for his crew to escape, so sad that chopper had to result to this instead of finding a new way to get stronger.
Robin has also shown herself to be the women who knows all the going ons of the crew, she even knew about choppers monster form and without hesitation picks luffy up and makes a run for it.
Time for the Real Kuma to enter the stage
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/13.png
Well with this there is so much that’s going on so I’m gonna focus on Zoro’s statement here. What mercy did Kuma show Zoro? Is it the fact that he’s only alive right that second because he stopped the PX1 attack, possible but I believe unlikely.
My theory is that he was thanking him for the act on tb. Zoro was going to exchange his head for luffy, but before that, kuma was holding luffy up about to finish him off for good. So why didn’t he use the same attack he was going to use on luffy on Zoro instead of the pain transfer attack. I believe Zoro realises like mihawk, kuma gave Zoro a chance if not slightly a chance of survival in which Zoro took, but the effects are still on until this day.
Bye-bye Zoro
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/neomaster121/14.png
And with the question, Zoro disappears. There are so many places Zoro could have been sent, but there are 2 places I know for sure Zoro hasn’t been sent to. Those are to marine’s main jail, why ask Zoro where to go if he was going to send him straight to jail. The other is to where one piece actually is hehehe.
I believe that using his paw fruit he deflects the teleportation power of his book to his opponent, I also think that’s why he asks you where you want to go because without you saying it he can’t send you anywhere. If this is the case Zoro could be almost anywhere: somewhere old or somewhere new, to face mihawk or to train with his old dojo master, to rest on the ship or to some random island. But with Zoro’s vivre card he can find silver without a problem, 3 days should be enough to get back if he was sent far enough, and I also think this could result in a mini Zoro arc in which he rest, trains and heals up to come back to the group stronger than ever, with a new more subtle way of fighting, similar to mihawk and the way he diverted those bullets when he first appeared.
In conclusion
What an action packed chapter, just so much to defer and ponder about and I hope the parts of which I’ve covered I covered well.
I rate this chapter a great 9 out of 10
Pretty much all great I loving the mini sword fight of silver and kizaru
The strawhats falling one by one for Zoro is just so awesome
The real kuma appearing is just so epic
My theory
I think that kuma their for only one reason
To collect the admiral and the marine mini force
If we remember the beginning of the admiral’s arrival it started with Kizaru breaking his receiver. The only one who could make it in time to get kizaru and the mini force back to fight wb in time would be kuma, who could teleport himself there in a second and teleport the admiral and co back just as fast, I think sending Zoro away was to save his life but wherever Zoro is, I’m sure it’s where he’s asked to be, and if it is to mi hawk this should be on marijoea ready to fight wb and not too far from the crew.
Prediction
As in my theory I believe Zoro is close and that kizaru and co will be leaving soon I don’t know how the chopper situation is gonna be resolved but if vegapunks body guard can nullify peoples fruit if only slightly a few hits should be good enough to take chopper down without killing him.
Oda pretty much is unpredictable n I wouldn’t be surprised if he cut to law and kid or did something else completely different.