Naruto, Sakura and Sai vs The Sound 5

[Shaunlim]

So who do you guys think would win. Just to be fair, Kimimaru is sickness free and Naruto can't use his tail-transformation. The arena would be the Forest of Death. Just curious how the current team 7 would fair against the Sound 5.

[kkck]

Sakura could handle jirobo and tayuya. Her insane strenth and chakra control are perfect to fight a powerhouse like jirobo and tayuya's genjutsu and demons. Sai would also be effective againts tayuya. He doesnt nesesarily fight directly, so againts oponents like tayuya he could do fairly well.
Sai or naruto could handle kidomaru since sai is a mid-long range fighter and naruto could use his clones to confuse kidomaru.
Naruto could handle sakon and ukon. A well placed rasengan would be perfect againts them since rasengan causes internal damage, therefore damaging both in one attack.
Naruto using his own sennin mode would overpower kimiraru, IMO.
Thinking about it, maybe naruto could take the five of them with sennin mode lol.

[Suzuku]

Naruto solos them all.

[Shaunlim]

Now that you mentioned it, I also feel that Naruto himself could take them all down with Senin mode as well~~~but if anything, I still feel that Kimimaru would put up a good fight.

[Csdabest]

Kimimiaro would solo this team. I think people are forgetting just how strong Kimimaro was both stat wise and and skill wise. Naruto with out tails is even a bigger spite. Cuz when i first saw the title I was thinking. Kimimaro should solo up to naruto goes 4-tails. But that isnt the case.

[kkck]

Kimimaru was strong as hell, but the thing is naruto has techniques that would be specially effective againts him. With hermit mode, just naruto's crazy strenth and speed would give kimimaru some serios trouble. Kimimaru is particularly dangerous at close range because of bones coming out of him and his ability to create bone armors, but if naruto plays his sennin mode right, and with a couple of well placed rasengans he should be able to do it. Remember that rasengan causes a lot of internal damage, like a little ball of compresed gentle fist lol; that would probably get past kimimaru's bone armor.
BTW, where can I get kimimaru's stats?

[Shaunlim]

Well Kimimaru's bones vs Sakura's super strength is something to behold for me. Wonder if she could actually break his bones.

[Csdabest]

Kimimaro Stats: http://leafninja.com/biographies-K.php
Nin:4 Tai:5 Gen:3 Int:3 Str:3 Spd:4.5 Sta:4.5 Seal:3 Total:30

I dont think Rasengan would get passed his bone armor. Specially since Gaara didnt by sinking him under a couple of tons of sand I beleive it was. And I highly doubt he will be tricked by clones since he clowned him using clones last time.

[Shaunlim]

I always did wonder why Naruto didn't use Rasengan during their fight. Anyways, I have a feeling that oodama or FRS would somehow damage Kimimaru. Besides, in Senin mode, all of Naruto's attack, speed and ninjutsu's damage would increase.

[Csdabest]

I beleive FRS would damage Kimimaro cuz of its nature. But i dont think an attack of simple grinding pressuring force would effect someone who was underneathe 200meters of sand and survived. Senin mode would put him on par with Kimimaro I belvie but CS would probably just reopen the gap possibily. Sakon and Ukon. I seriously dont see away for them to defeat his abilities. And in all reality. Im not 100% sure how he got defeated in the first place. There isn't much I see Sai, Sakura, or Naruto doing to his abilities. Kidomaru initial abilities were only nullified by Neji gentle fist and Byakugan. Tayuya would probably rape with her genjutsu.

Thing is. These Sound nin have very unique abilities that are very hard to counter. And The strongest out of them Is naruto. And most likelt he will have his hands full fighting Kimimaro. That and they are also outnumbered by these unique abilities as well. Maybe if you throw in another contender and even things out abit. It might call for a better fight.

[Shaunlim]

Well thing here is, I'm not really sure how well those 5 would work together. I mean the last time Kimimaru fought the other 4, he practically owned them all without breaking a sweat.

[Dice]

But I guess that's just because they attacked him with just raw strenght. But that's just a guess^^


Anyway. I guess the sound five will win. Just think about it. Team Konoha won every battle with a single fighter but without Shikamaru's intelligience they would have lost against the first one (sorry forget the name^^). But most probably the could break free with their new strenght even without knowing the weakness of this cage. But since I believe the only one who could withstand Tayuya's genjutsu (don't forget that Shikamaru said that this is the worst type of genjutsu (speaking of sound-genjutsu)) is Sakura but she could most probably occupy at least Naruto and Sai and since there is no reason to believe that you could break Kidoumaru's threads I guess he could bind them, at least long enough that somebody else could finish them off.
Last time the only reason they were saved was the fact that somebody had a way to counter one of their abilities and because of the sand nins^^.
While the sound five outnumber team konoha it's their special abilities who let them win. At least if they work together (even a little bit could do it).

And about the senninmode: Doesn't it take some time to prepare it (you musn't move a muscle if I understand it correctly), does it? That should be kinda difficult if someone keeps attacking you.

[kkck]

Kimimaro Stats: http://leafninja.com/biographies-K.php
Nin:4 Tai:5 Gen:3 Int:3 Str:3 Spd:4.5 Sta:4.5 Seal:3 Total:30

I dont think Rasengan would get passed his bone armor. Specially since Gaara didnt by sinking him under a couple of tons of sand I beleive it was. And I highly doubt he will be tricked by clones since he clowned him using clones last time.

I think rasengan would get past his armor. The type of damage sand preasure and rasengan deal is diferent. Rasengan has the ability to cause internal damage, so even if kimimaru's bone armor doesnt break because of the attack, kimimaru would still probably get a good deal of internal damage.

[DarkManSharingan32]

I think rasengan would get past his armor. The type of damage sand preasure and rasengan deal is diferent. Rasengan has the ability to cause internal damage, so even if kimimaru's bone armor doesnt break because of the attack, kimimaru would still probably get a good deal of internal damage.

Umm. You have to get through his Bone Defense in order to get to anything else.
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The Sound 5 working together should dismantle those THREE.

Kidoumaru is a tough customer... along with Kimimaro... he has a defense that is not easy to get through. (It even stopped CHAKRA from passing through it).

Tayuya... the ability for her summons to divide the three, and then the ability to use Genjutsu that can't easily be removed with "Kai"... he auditory Genjutsu should be more than good enough to disable Naruto for a short period of time.

Jiroubou...
Powerhouse. But likely not to be able to deal with Sakura in that area now. He'd have to be working closely with someone else to be effective.

Sakon/Ukon.
They have Rashoumon which can stop just about any jutsu.
And once they go CS... they can jump into their opponents bodies! These guys can subdue any two ninja on their own, if they get an opening!

And... Kimimaro.
His Taijutsu will dismantle any attack that comes his way. Period. And his ability to take damage and keep going surpasses even that of Naruto.

Kimi uses his bones to reinforce his entire body, as well as for weapons.

If Naruto can't use his Kyuubi... none of them have much chance of blocking his attacks.

If they're able to get their summons off...
Sound 5 can turn a 5-3 advantage... to a 9-3 advantage (if Kidoumaru happens to not make hundreds of spiders).

YES Naruto has KB... but we all know what Kimimaro did to those.

I think those five just have a bit too much going for them...

[Raizen]

Tayuya will lose to sai the same way she lost to temari. Sai paintings will continuously attack her leaving her unable to counter. He could send birds to steal her flute, thus no more fight

Jirobo would get owned by sakura

Ukon and Sakon can only i beleive transfer body if they are close to the opponent. What if they go into the body of the clone. Remember, whatever the person feel, sakon and ukon feels. SO what happens if the clone dies, they die.

Kidomaru is going to be tough but Sai nd naruto KB can beat him

The reason kiminaro was able to beat so many of naruto's clones so easily was b/c naruto rushed in that battle hot headed and stupid. He didn't even use strategies he used against gaara. Now he is even smarter, able to outsmart an akatsuki, meaning he should be able to get kiminaro. And w/ a boost in all areas of combat mean Kiminaro is F-ed. Kiminaro is strong, but just jonin IMO. Naruto could take him

So leaf wins. Remember, these 3 have grown close to each other. The new team 7, able to work in sync

[Furious]

Naruto FRS would ripp kimmaros bones off =)

[Kyuugetsu]

I beleive FRS would damage Kimimaro cuz of its nature. But i dont think an attack of simple grinding pressuring force would effect someone who was underneathe 200meters of sand and survived. Senin mode would put him on par with Kimimaro I belvie but CS would probably just reopen the gap possibily. Sakon and Ukon. I seriously dont see away for them to defeat his abilities. And in all reality. Im not 100% sure how he got defeated in the first place. There isn't much I see Sai, Sakura, or Naruto doing to his abilities. Kidomaru initial abilities were only nullified by Neji gentle fist and Byakugan. Tayuya would probably rape with her genjutsu.

Thing is. These Sound nin have very unique abilities that are very hard to counter. And The strongest out of them Is naruto. And most likelt he will have his hands full fighting Kimimaro. That and they are also outnumbered by these unique abilities as well. Maybe if you throw in another contender and even things out abit. It might call for a better fight.

Hold on, are we really talking about Team 7 at the present time in the manga because they would slaughter Sound 5.

You are talking about Kimimaro-Naruto fight as if Naruto hasn't improved immensely. Naruto no longer sends in the clones in a blind charge. He uses a strategy. He gauges his opponent's speed. Depending on Kimimaro's speed, he will send a number of clones after him and FRS will do the rest. It does not matter how strong Kimimaro's bones are. Let's say Kimimaro's bones could withstand FRS, his skin cells and organ cells will still be obliterated and he'd basically just be a walking skeleton. Naruto killed Kakuzu in a few minutes. I do not think Kimimaro would last any longer. Kimimaro had a nice Kekkai Genkai, but it is nothing compared to the killing power that Kakuzu had with numberous chakra strings and elemental cannons. If 3 clones + Naruto gave Kakuzu that much trouble (remember we're talking about present Naruto, not the goofy Naruto who fought Kimimaro in Part 1), Kimimaro doesn't stand much of a chance.

As for the other 4, a combination of Sakura, Sai, and some more of Naruto's clones can get the job done. I'm quite sure if Sakura hits any of them, they'll die. Naruto's clones can help her getting openings. Sai should be able to take care of Tayuya since she's a genjutsu fighter who doesn't move much.

[DarkManSharingan32]

Naruto FRS would ripp kimmaros bones off =)

Did they rip Kakuzu's bones off?

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Hold on, are we really talking about Team 7 at the present time in the manga because they would slaughter Sound 5.

You are talking about Kimimaro-Naruto fight as if Naruto hasn't improved immensely. Naruto no longer sends in the clones in a blind charge. He uses a strategy. He gauges his opponent's speed. Depending on Kimimaro's speed, he will send a number of clones after him and FRS will do the rest. It does not matter how strong Kimimaro's bones are. Let's say Kimimaro's bones could withstand FRS, his skin cells and organ cells will still be obliterated and he'd basically just be a walking skeleton. Naruto killed Kakuzu in a few minutes. I do not think Kimimaro would last any longer. Kimimaro had a nice Kekkai Genkai, but it is nothing compared to the killing power that Kakuzu had with numberous chakra strings and elemental cannons. If 3 clones + Naruto gave Kakuzu that much trouble (remember we're talking about present Naruto, not the goofy Naruto who fought Kimimaro in Part 1), Kimimaro doesn't stand much of a chance.

As for the other 4, a combination of Sakura, Sai, and some more of Naruto's clones can get the job done. I'm quite sure if Sakura hits any of them, they'll die. Naruto's clones can help her getting openings. Sai should be able to take care of Tayuya since she's a genjutsu fighter who doesn't move much.

Kimi's bones are protecting his organs...
And there is no proof that FRS can be as effective.
They are as "solid as steel" afterall...

And Kimi is MADE to take on more than one attacker.
With his various Dances, and his Hessendan... Naruto shouldn't even get close.

But then again... Kakuzu had a similar advantage.

And Sakura just "hitting them"... isn't just that easy.
Especially with Kidoumaru and his Golden Skin.

And exactly how are these guys gonna get out of his Web, should he inevitably catches them with it?

"Naruto helping with KB"... isnt really fool-proof strategy. :\

I'm thinking that a Tayuya/Jiroubou combination is the best.
He more than strong enough to deal with any of those Beasts Sai can cook up... and Tayuya has the ability to render anyone to nothing...

I completely forgot about this attack:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/207/08/

Tayuya is no joke. It took the more dangerous Summon I think Kishi has come up with in order to take her down....
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I think people need to go back and re-read the Retrieval Arc chapters.
They were amazingly dangerous... and should have KILLED the Rooies back then.

[kkck]

Did they rip Kakuzu's bones off?

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Kimi's bones are protecting his organs...
And there is no proof that FRS can be as effective.
They are as "solid as steel" afterall...

And Kimi is MADE to take on more than one attacker.
With his various Dances, and his Hessendan... Naruto shouldn't even get close.

But then again... Kakuzu had a similar advantage.

And Sakura just "hitting them"... isn't just that easy.
Especially with Kidoumaru and his Golden Skin.

And exactly how are these guys gonna get out of his Web, should he inevitably catches them with it?

"Naruto helping with KB"... isnt really fool-proof strategy. :\

I'm thinking that a Tayuya/Jiroubou combination is the best.
He more than strong enough to deal with any of those Beasts Sai can cook up... and Tayuya has the ability to render anyone to nothing...

I completely forgot about this attack:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/207/08/

Tayuya is no joke. It took the more dangerous Summon I think Kishi has come up with in order to take her down....
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I think people need to go back and re-read the Retrieval Arc chapters.
They were amazingly dangerous... and should have KILLED the Rooies back then.

There is also no proof that kust a normal rasengan would seal serious damage though. Remember the water tank at the hospital fight? It was made out of steel and a rasengan made it blow from the inside out. Even if kimimaru's bones are a lot harder than steel, I dont see how he wouldnt get hurt from just a normal rasengan.
Naruto also probably now is as fast or maybe even faster than what kimimaru was, unfortunately only kishi knows...
Sai is extremely skilled, more so than naruto and sakura and naruto when he was first introduced. Sai would be able to handle the long range fighters in sound five on his own (tayuya and kidomaru) . Maybe not both of them at the same time but at least he can take them 1on1.
Jiroubo was strong as hell, but I think sakura could take him. She probably is faster and definitely smarter than him.
Sakon and ukon would be hard, but I think the internal damage a rasengan causes would hurt both of them, not to mention what FRS would do to them. Maybe sakura's strenth can hurt both of them at the same time too.

[samsiufan]

Naruto will FRS all of them....

[Black/Light]

Naruto kills them all (Yes, as someone said before, his RSG/ ORSG/ FRSG should all be able to take down Mr. Bones in his current state).

Sak does a few power punches, B****es about something, gets hurt than heals her self.

Sai might kill someone but he will, at some point, make a d*** joke.

[Kyuugetsu]

Did they rip Kakuzu's bones off?

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Bones have cells. FRS attacks each and every cell. No matter how strong the bone is, if something attacks each cell of the bone, the bone will be broken down and destroyed. Kimimaro will, without a doubt, die if he's hit by FRS.



Kimi's bones are protecting his organs...
And there is no proof that FRS can be as effective.
They are as "solid as steel" afterall...

And Kimi is MADE to take on more than one attacker.
With his various Dances, and his Hessendan... Naruto shouldn't even get close.

But then again... Kakuzu had a similar advantage.

And Sakura just "hitting them"... isn't just that easy.
Especially with Kidoumaru and his Golden Skin.

And exactly how are these guys gonna get out of his Web, should he inevitably catches them with it?

"Naruto helping with KB"... isnt really fool-proof strategy. :\

I'm thinking that a Tayuya/Jiroubou combination is the best.
He more than strong enough to deal with any of those Beasts Sai can cook up... and Tayuya has the ability to render anyone to nothing...

I completely forgot about this attack:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/207/08/

Tayuya is no joke. It took the more dangerous Summon I think Kishi has come up with in order to take her down....
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I think people need to go back and re-read the Retrieval Arc chapters.
They were amazingly dangerous... and should have KILLED the Rooies back then.

I find it funny you keep talking about what the Sound 5 did to the rookies back then. News flash, we're in part 2 and all the rookies have improved and Naruto's improvement is the most significant.

The Sound 5 would be taken down with much trouble.

[Raizen]

Tayuya gen won't even effect sakura. If I am not mistaken sakura has a knack for gen so she should be able to break. I wouldn't be surprised if she manages to break out of tsukyomi. Not only that, like tsunade, she has perfect chakra control allowing her to break gen. if naruto could almost break a gen from itachi then I am sure sakura who is much better at gen than naruto could break out a gen from someone like tayuya.

Jirobo would die in a second w/ sakura's punch.

Sakon and ukon, I already stated my opinion. If they foolishly accidently combine w/ naruto's KB they are screwed

Kidomaru and Kiminaro would get destroyed by naruto current;y. He is much more agile and stronger. He is not that little emotionable boy who send clones after clones foolishly. U honestly believe that Kiminaro is even close in strength w/ kakuzu. Kim is strong but people overestimate him too much. Rasengan would twist his insides let alone Odama and FRS

[Csdabest]

Thats funny. People overestimate Kimimaro. He was sasuke level at that time. And Naruto will still get his asswhooped by Sasuke. COmbine that With his CS and KG. Naruto still gets murdered.

Explain to me how Naruto is going to cut through the chakra web from Kidomaru. Or survive Kidomaru barrage. Neji bearly did it with 360 site.

[kkck]

Naruto was able to use his wind chakra to cut a waterfall. Who's to say he cant cut kidomaru's web? I know they are diferent things, but it still is a posibility.

[Csdabest]

COnsidering Kidomaru web isn't exactly web it was more like strings of chakra. He might be able to cut one at a time but its still going to be hard and diffcult for him to take on Kidomaru. And naruto can really do much if Kidomaru decides to go long range. He sint stupid he was able to figure out Neji secret mid battle.

[Reenie]

Man none of the Sound 5 presently can even do any damage to Naruto without CS2 activation. Didn't we just see how Naruto fell from a towering crag onto the sharp rocks below and took no damage? At 9.8m/s acceleration he probably hit those rocks at a speed surpassing that of any ninja. Naruto will be like "lol just try to stab me" @ kimimaro or kidomaru until they go CS2. Kidomaru would most likely have the advantage over Naruto in CS2 if we're not taking into account the mid-long range jutsu Naruto is currently developing. Hard to beat long-range with taijutsu. But Naruto wouldn't go down that very easily, since he can mimic Neji's 360 sight with Kage Bunshin - form a circle of kage bunshins and once CS2 arrow hits one kage bunshin, the real Naruto would know exactly where Kidomaru's attack is coming from and have a couple of seconds to react. Or Naruto could just summon Gamabunta for his long range water attacks; Naruto would be hard to hit on top of Gamabunta's head and once Kidomaru fires, Gamabunta could retaliate and GG Kidomaru.

But Naruto would have the advantage over Kimimaro simply because their defenses are more or less comparable at the moment, and Naruto's offense is considerably greater if he connects. Spinal bone sword versus FRS... hmm... I wonder which one would win ::rolleyes:: Kimimaro hasn't been shown to be able to manipulate elemental chakra so there's no way he could stop either chidori or any of Naruto's wind slashing jutsu with just... uh... the hardest bone in his body... lol

But this is all academic, really. In team battles, many of one's attacks can't be used without harming one's own allies. Kimimaro's last sword dance against Gaara for example... and the Sound 5 never seemed one for team battles - they were always shown fighting one on one except for that time they fought against Kimimaro. If they had good teamwork I guess their sheer numbers would prevail - they can cover each other's weaknesses better than the Naruto, Sakura, and Sai team at least.

[Shaunlim]

But this is all academic, really. In team battles, many of one's attacks can't be used without harming one's own allies. Kimimaro's last sword dance against Gaara for example... and the Sound 5 never seemed one for team battles - they were always shown fighting one on one except for that time they fought against Kimimaro. If they had good teamwork I guess their sheer numbers would prevail - they can cover each other's weaknesses better than the Naruto, Sakura, and Sai team at least.
That's exactly why I brought up how well they worked together. Shikamaru did say that their teamwork is not flawless. Besides, some of the Sound 5's ability won't work well if they are together. So the real question now is how well both team's cooperation level is.

[Raizen]

Thats funny. People overestimate Kimimaro. He was sasuke level at that time. And Naruto will still get his asswhooped by Sasuke. COmbine that With his CS and KG. Naruto still gets murdered.

Explain to me how Naruto is going to cut through the chakra web from Kidomaru. Or survive Kidomaru barrage. Neji bearly did it with 360 site.
I don't get a single thing u just said here. It is a mixture of both sarcasm and just craziness

As for Reenie, way to use physics. I hate that subject when I took it last year. Naruto falling on sharp rocks at that level of acceleration and came out unhurt is a feat in itself. That means no brute strength is going to beat him, especially from those of the sound 5. They aren't exactly brawn

Kiminaro, if he decides to use the last dance as a ditch effort, he will literally screw his team over while all sai has to do is create birds for all of them to fly with. Or sakura can break the bones, etc lol

[Shaunlim]

I can't believe I forgot that there was a thread made about Sasuke vs Sound 5. And the funny thing is how people say Sasuke can win against all 5 alone but Team 7 can't

[Raizen]

I can't believe I forgot that there was a thread made about Sasuke vs Sound 5. And the funny thing is how people say Sasuke can win against all 5 alone but Team 7 can't
Its b/c the sharingan is a "see all beat all all kind of thing" :notrust

Sasuke is a pansy IMO

Team 7 got this battle in the bag

[Forever_Melody]

So wait, one person like Sasuke can take on all Sound 5, yet a team of 3 consisting of Naruto(which is the 2nd most powerful person of the same generation as Sasuke) cannot? That's somewhat odd :blink

Personally, I agree that the Sound 5's powers aren't the best suited for team efforts. Things such as Ukon's ability to infect bodies would prove ineffective since his teammates couldn't attack the possessed body(otherwise they'd kill Ukon too). Other attack such as Kimimaro's Dance of the Pines would also be useless otherwise it'd hit his teammates.

Mind you, this still is a 5v3, so it'd be quite the challenge for Team 7, but they are in no way weak.

The main factors I see against them are Kidoumaru's analytical abilities and Kimimaro's simple prowess. You didn't give Konoha any analyst of any kind, and you lessened their numbers.

[Raizen]

I think kiminaro and kidomaru's spider web is the tricky one, but considering naruto's ability enahanced w/ senjutsu and his KB and the way he mastered it. He can get the best of them

[Forever_Melody]

Well I'll wait and see more of Naruto's style after he shows us his new fighting style post-toad-training. As it stands, Kimimaro is still among the top taijutsu users in the series and his Kekkei Genkai only further supplements his taijutsu, making his a near juggernaut(assuming Gaara's sand couldn't even crush Kimimaro).

[Shaunlim]

Other attack such as Kimimaro's Dance of the Pines would also be useless otherwise it'd hit his teammates.

You didn't give Konoha any analyst of any kind, and you lessened their numbers.

1. I dunno. Can that attack even be used without him being underground ?? I mean the last time he used it, Gaara already sank him down 200m below ground.

2. Personally, even if knowing their abilities doesn't really help in this fight. Perhaps only Sakon's ability. I mean, just because you know about Kidoumaru's web, doesn't mean you can do something against them and it's obvious to avoid your opponents attack. The rest of the sound 5's ability can easily be seen during battle which isn't really much of a factor.

[Forever_Melody]

It's to a question of knowing about abilities, but figuring a battle plan.

Kidoumaru is a strategist, he can formulate plans very quickly as shown when he deciphered Neji's weaknesses. Same applies to other analysts such as Shikamaru. Put him on any team and suddenly, the team becomes better. It's not just a question of knowledge, but planning then.

And technically speaking, what is the purpose of you refuting those points of mine? I understand you may see differently, but how do they play into your argument of which side would win?

[Shaunlim]

It's to a question of knowing about abilities, but figuring a battle plan.

Kidoumaru is a strategist, he can formulate plans very quickly as shown when he deciphered Neji's weaknesses. Same applies to other analysts such as Shikamaru. Put him on any team and suddenly, the team becomes better. It's not just a question of knowledge, but planning then.

And technically speaking, what is the purpose of you refuting those points of mine? I understand you may see differently, but how do they play into your argument of which side would win?

1. While it is true a strategy can be made with prior knowledge, it's almost impossible when there is no prep time at all. Especially if you are outnumbered. Even a battle plan can do so much. I mean while Shikamaru had the ability to plan, even his plan has their own flaws in them. An example would be even if Shikamaru knew about Tayuya's CS2, there not much he can't do about it.


2. They aren't for my argument. Just wanted to state that. Personally, I see this as a close battle. Practically the reason why I posted this thread.

[kkck]

I still think naruto, sakura and sai win.
Naruto's rasengan causes internal damage, which means that it is the perfect counter for sakon and ukon, since it would be able to hurt them both at the same time.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/192/11/
Right there naruto showed he was able to fool kidomaru with his clones. Now lets consider naruto has 2.5 years of sannin training, which included better clone timing and jutsu. Naruto also has shown to be a good planner, even compared with shikamaru. Naruto can also create large amounts of wind chakra which could be able to cut the kidimaru's web. Naruto has al the tools he needs to beat kidomaru and he wouldnt even need HM yet.
Tayuya would be hard since she uses a strong genjutsu, but for all we know naruto can break it. clones, rasengan and in the worst case scenario HM could defeat tayuya easily.

Jirobo is very strong and not particularly smart, while naruto has his street smarts and all the jutsu he needs to break jirobo inside out. Worst case scenario, naruto ripps jirobi inside out with an odama rasngan.

Kimimaru is the hard one in this one. He has the moves, the speed, and is scary as hell. Normal naruto could probably land a couple of rasengans, or even an odama rasengan, but for arguments sake lets have naruto use hermit mode in this one. IMHO naruto with hermit mode would overcome kimimaru.

Sai is also an excelent combatant and would be able to take most of the sound five (not at the same time though).
I think sai could defeat kidomaru because both of them play the same game. Both of the use long range strategies which means he wont have the masive disadvantage neji had. Sai has his ink monsters and speed, he could handle kidomaru.
Tayuya is another long range fighter sai could defeat. Sai wouldnt even have to get too close, he just has to spread his ink creatures around and let them get to tayuya and strike when she is distracted. Of course tayuya has her monsters, but those can be dealt with. Sai is smart, I dont think it would take him very long to figure out the flute thing and go for it with one of his ranged attacks.
Jirobo and kimimaru are probably harder oponents for sai though. Sai's ink creatures can be overcome with strenth, which is something kimimaru and jirobo can spare.
Sakura is smart and hell, she could deal with jirobo. In his CS2 jirobo probably has more strenth than sakura, but maybe sakura can use her own strenth and combine it with her medical jutsu to fight like kabuto and tsunade do. Overall I think she could defeat jirobo.
Sakura is also extrmely talented in dealing with genjutsu, so she could probably beat tayuya. Sakura is also strong enough to deal with the demons tayuya has too.
Maybe sakura's strenth is enough to deal with sakon and ukon, but I think sakon and ukon have the advantage in this one.
As for kidomaru and kimimaru I would say sakura losses. Sakura's dodging abilities would give her a decent chance againts kidomaru but IMO kidomaru has more firepower than sakura which in the end would give him the victory. As for kimimaru O honestly believe sakura losses because she depend on close range fighter, something on which kimimaru excels.
Overall I think naruto, sakura and sai win this one.

[~Joshua~]

Tactics of the Sound Five:
1. Everyone but Jirobo could enter the fight and distract them until Jirobo does that earth jutsu to take them out. Team 7 doesn't have Kiba, Neji and Chouji to see weakpoints in the orb.

2. Kidoumaru could catch one or two of them in his webs that could hold two elephants with ease. The team would be separated and not be able to exercise the power of teamwork.

3. Tayuya's genjutsu could trap them all. The only people i see getting out of it are Yamato and Sakura. I haven't seen him deal with genjutsu but he is an ANBU so I assume he has some skill with it. Sakura is naturally good at genjutsu and disspelling but Naruto and Sai I don't see them doing so.

4. Sakon/Ukon has Rashoumon. That stopped Kiba's and Akamaru's most powerful attack and is quite impressive. They can rip body cells apart by merging their body with yours.

5. Kimimaro is one of the strongest people in the Narutoverse. (to me at least) He can most likely take on Yamato and should be able to win in time to go help his teammates with their fights. He sliced shuriken in two without even looking and took out Naruto's army of shadow clones with extreme ease while Naruto was using Kyuubi. He withstood drunken fist rock lee and stop him from using a lotus.

When all of them use cursed seal the fight gets even more serious. The only person in Team 7 who has a way to increase their power would be Naruto by using Kyuubi or Sage Mode (SM). That would slow them down but that would not ensure victory for Team 7.

[Raizen]

Tactics of the Sound Five:
1. Everyone but Jirobo could enter the fight and distract them until Jirobo does that earth jutsu to take them out. Team 7 doesn't have Kiba, Neji and Chouji to see weakpoints in the orb.

2. Kidoumaru could catch one or two of them in his webs that could hold two elephants with ease. The team would be separated and not be able to exercise the power of teamwork.

3. Tayuya's genjutsu could trap them all. The only people i see getting out of it are Yamato and Sakura. I haven't seen him deal with genjutsu but he is an ANBU so I assume he has some skill with it. Sakura is naturally good at genjutsu and disspelling but Naruto and Sai I don't see them doing so.

4. Sakon/Ukon has Rashoumon. That stopped Kiba's and Akamaru's most powerful attack and is quite impressive. They can rip body cells apart by merging their body with yours.

5. Kimimaro is one of the strongest people in the Narutoverse. (to me at least) He can most likely take on Yamato and should be able to win in time to go help his teammates with their fights. He sliced shuriken in two without even looking and took out Naruto's army of shadow clones with extreme ease while Naruto was using Kyuubi. He withstood drunken fist rock lee and stop him from using a lotus.

When all of them use cursed seal the fight gets even more serious. The only person in Team 7 who has a way to increase their power would be Naruto by using Kyuubi or Sage Mode (SM). That would slow them down but that would not ensure victory for Team 7.
With sakura's development, she would take out Jirobo b4 he could do anything. Even his rock thing could be broken out by sakura if not by naruto's senjutsu

Tayuya, she can't use gen with ink animals flying and attacking her the same way temari attack her. Have a bird swoop in and steal the flute and she is finished

Sakon and Ukon, using the body thing may be dangerous since it may be a naruto KB. No only that. ANd u can get around rasshomon, the reason they were able to use it against kiba was b/c his attack took long

Kidomaru, naruto won't be caught twice. He has KB, sai has ink, and sakura and her strength

Kiminaro, naruto can take him. With what he has now kiminaro wouldn't stand a chance