MH Seinen Hangout

[Drmke]

I started Shamo years ago...read volume one and stopped. I think I stopped because I was discouraged by the uncertainty of it returning from it's extreme hiatus (though I believe it has now?). It was good from what I read and I need to pick it back up because I hear it gets great.

Don't think I've picked up a new seinen manga since I Am A Hero >.>

[Kaiten]

It came back in July, all of the new chapters have been scanlated too. It had been on hiatus for so long I would not have started it if it had not returned.

[Drmke]

I'll pick it back up then. I need a violent manga fix. I think (not counting the obvious series like Gantz and Berserk) the last extremely violent manga I read was Ichi the Killer....and that was ages ago.

[Kaiten]

Excellent! My only complaint was that the art is a little plain in volume one but by the end of volume two the art starts getting more detailed.

[baboysai]

This year's 20th issue of Shueisha (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=909)'s Business Jump (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=5330) magazine is announcing (http://www.manga-news.com/public/News%20jap/septembre2011/Grand-jump.jpg) on Wednesday that Shueisha will launch a new semi-monthly seinen (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=19) manga magazine called Grand Jump in November. According to Shueisha, the magazine "for liberated adults." Shueisha will provide more details on the new magazine on October 5 in Business Jump magazine's combined 21st/22nd issue — the last issue of the magazine. Shueisha had announced (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-07-05/shueisha-to-launch-relaunch-3-manga-mags-in-2011-2012) in July that it would end both Business Jump and another semi-monthly seinen magazine called Super Jump (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=4052), but would launch a new semi-monthly magazine this fall.
Grand Jump will continue the following manga from Business Jump:


Ore no Sora: Keiji-Hen (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=7315) by Hiroshi Motomiya (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=17263)
Amai Seikatsu (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=10285) (under a new title) by Hikaru Yuzuki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=60385)
Uramiya Honpo (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=8979) Reboot by Showshow Kurihara (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=68515)
Guy ~Ishoku Byōtō 24-ji~ by Tomoaki Katō, Jiro Ando (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=65647)
Boku no Karada wa Two Outs by Yoshitani (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=82874)
Mankitsu by Haruki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=88869)
Sekai ni Dai-jiman Shitai Nihon no Kaisha by Kōji Sakamoto, Kōji Koseki, Takayuki Hirasawa
Yesterday o Utatte (Sing "Yesterday" for Me (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=4027)) by Kei Toume (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=18549)
Dash Master by Naotsugu Matsueda (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=66187)

The new magazine will also continue the following manga from Super Jump:


Bartender (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=6815) by Kenji Nagatomo (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=45048)
Gendai Toshi Yōkikō Reibaishi Izuna ~the spiritual medium~ (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=11092) by Sho Makura (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=30668), Takeshi Okano (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=13394)
Gokujo—. by Maya Miyazaki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=96742)

In addition to these continuing manga series, Grand Jump will have new manga series and projects.


source: ANN

[Kaiten]

Interesting that Super Jump got the short end of the stick over the merger. Shueisha really has been busy revamping their seinen/josei line. Last month they announced that "You" (josei) will change from bi-monthly to monthly. Jump X (for men and women) actually has some interesting series in it. And now the two old men's magazines will be closing.

[eni]

Sounds like they're merging the two demographics more? Would fit the general trend to blurry the lines.

[shinsengumi]

i wonder if there is anyone following higanjima (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/higanjima_l_le_des_vampires/) in MH except me . its rare to get zero search results for a manga here : /
there is even a movie of it (http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1905892377/) made in 2009
maybe its a well-known story in japan and the manga isnt where its originated from ?
its not the greatest work out there but i like it nonetheless . read it so that we can talk :D

[eni]

Oh, sağol. Thanks for pointing the movie out. I'm reading this manga but have stalled it since months because I need to concentrate on finishing university.

But I will look into the movie. It seems to be good :nod

Is your avatar from Kurozuka?

[Kaiten]

Sounds like they're merging the two demographics more? Would fit the general trend to blurry the lines.

Jump X is being advertised as a "pure manga magazine" not meant to appeal to a single age or gender. It definitely contains a mix of artists that would appeal to both genders but does seem to lean more towards series for adults. Though the artist of Gag Manga Biyori has a series in Jump X, maybe their are more series for teens and I just don't recognize them. The flagship is 87 Clockers, Tomoko Ninomiya follow up Nodame.

Super Jump and Business Jump merging is a case of overlapping audiences. At some point Super Jump ceased to be the intermediary step between Shounen and Young Jump, and became a salary man magazine. Most of the readers are between thirty and thrity-five now. Business Jump's readers are mostly between thirty and fifty.


i wonder if there is anyone following higanjima (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/higanjima_l_le_des_vampires/) in MH except me . its rare to get zero search results for a manga here : /
there is even a movie of it (http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1905892377/) made in 2009
maybe its a well-known story in japan and the manga isnt where its originated from ?
its not the greatest work out there but i like it nonetheless . read it so that we can talk :D

It's always hard to tell if no one is reading a series or no one is posting about in the seinen forums :/ If you want to start a thread you are welcome to, of course. I'm not sure if their are other fans but no harm in trying. I have been planning on reading but keep putting it off, personally.

[Josef K.]

Um can someone put a list or something of seinen magazines, most of the threads in the Otaku Shoten are for shounen one? >_<

[Kaiten]

Not a bad idea. I'll either edit them into the OP of this thread or start a separate thread later today. I may do a thread cause I couldn't hope to write a definitive list on my own.

[Josef K.]

Would that be made in this section or the regular one for manga magazine?

It would be nice if the magazine list consists of not only the famous manga from them but all of them. And yes, it should be open so anyone can help make the list. :)

Thanks!

[MattC302]

My favorite Seinen magazine is Afternoon. If I lived in Japan, that would be the one I would buy.

[Kaiten]

Would that be made in this section or the regular one for manga magazine?

It would be nice if the magazine list consists of not only the famous manga from them but all of them. And yes, it should be open so anyone can help make the list. :)

Thanks!

I'm leaning towards Otaku Shoten, with the other magazine threads. There are Shoten regulars who may be able to find lots of interesting supplemental information (demographics, circulation, and so forth) that would never see the thread over here. I have a lot of recent information on Shueisha magazines but none for the other publishers. A bit unsatisfying since I don't like Shueisha seinen that much.

Don't worry, I'll be sure to have plenty of magazines, not just Young Jump and Young Magazine.


My favorite Seinen magazine is Afternoon. If I lived in Japan, that would be the one I would buy.

I love Afternoon as well as it's brothers, Morning and Evening. If I lived in Japan chances are I would buy Big Comic Spirits though. Since there are only six issues a year, I would also buy Manga Erotics F.

[Josef K.]

Yes that should be a better idea to put them there, mainly I want to see the magazines grouped so I can have them how do you say "on paper", in place, organized, I get rather confused when I have to search for the magazines.

Hoping the Shoten squad will help out.

[Kaiten]

It's possibly they will, there are plenty who like posting any news/info they know. I'll have all the magazines I know organized by publisher. There is a huge number of seinen magazines, far more than the other demographics so it will be continuous work in progress.

[eni]

This is getting offtopic and I'm not entirely sure what you want to do, but since our database isn't as complete as MU's, you may find this thread helpful as reference for listing magazines here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=9924

Note that you find seinen mags listed there not only under SEINEN but also under OTHER (for hybrids) and YURI. The list is usually very accurate (unlike wikipedia and other sources), complete and uptodate. At least last time I checked it.

I can't for the love of gawd remember that one webpage that is basically a huge manga mag/imprint database with very accurate demographic sorting.... grrr >___<

[shinsengumi]

Oh, sağol. Thanks for pointing the movie out. I'm reading this manga but have stalled it since months because I need to concentrate on finishing university.

But I will look into the movie. It seems to be good :nod

Is your avatar from Kurozuka?

you are welcome . i havent seen the movie yet but it looks identical to the manga , i'll watch it ASAP

my avatar is from sidooh -this cover- (http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=HJbhcempVd)

we are even now , since you made me meet kurozuka :hurr

[barbapapa]

My money would go to IKKI, along with its more mainstream counterpart Spirits.

[Kaiten]

IKKI is a great magazine, one of my favorites. But I only read one current series, Sunny, though I think that is the only current series being translated. As far as older series Children of the Sea, Number 5, and Noramimi are among my all time favorites. I will admit I kind of prefer the competition; overall I like Comic Beam and Manga Erotics F a little more than IKKI.

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I started the list of seinen magazines here: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/72621-Seinen-and-Alternative-Manga-Magazines

[barbapapa]

I'll Give It My All... Is another great title.

[Kaiten]

I bought the first volume of that but money got tight so I haven't bought any more. Funny manga. Sadly VIZ hasn't added anymore titles to the SIG IKKI line this year, hopefully there will be next year. If they do, I hope they license Freesia.

[barbapapa]

I actually don't expect them to do more in the near future; I mean I was very surprised that they even took this initiative in the first place. But with the current state of the manga market, I don't think they'll dig too deep into the IKKI catalog, alas.
I would kill for an official version of Noramimi, though.
Would be nice (IKKI aside) if they did another Taiyo Matsumoto manga, Takemitsu Zamurai is ripe for the picking, and absolutely amazing. The story is also highly accessible, the only thing that would initially scare people off may be the art style.
By the way I wrote some blog posts on my tumblr account about manga/authors I'd like to see published, in case you're interested: http://manprudbloempje.tumblr.com/

[Kaiten]

My expectations are very low but I will be following licensing announcements closely when New York Comic Con (or whatever the hell they call it) starts. They seem to have scaled down their seinen line in general, not much came out this year, so it may not be worth getting my hopes up. Noramimi books would be amazing, if it were to ever come.

I've only read part way through Takemitsu, when Hox took a break from translating I stopped reading and have not had a chance to come back to it. Ideally I would like to see new editions of Number Five with Ping Pong and Zero licensed. Fat chance seeing any sports manga licensed though, even if the editors at VIZ probably love his work. Hanaotoko is another one I'd like to see licensed.

I'll check out your blog later this afternoon, I need to read your Tomehane post. A great series that I've gotten addicted to over the last few months.

[barbapapa]

Actually the entire bunkoban version of Number Five was released digitally on iPad via the iTunes store; so there IS an official version out there. I bought it myself, and despite some lazy lettering the overall translation is good, as it was done by Yuji Oniki who also did the Viz version of volumes 1-2 back in the stone age of publishing. The extras are also nice, being an exclusive interview, wallpaper, and short piece of animation. I have the feeling this format is going to be the future for less marketable series. Kind of a pity, 'cause nothing beats owning a nice paper version. For example Viz' version of Matsumoto's Gogo Monster is just gorgeous.
Also that Tomehane! post isn't so extensive, tumblr kinda allows you to make lazy 4chan-esque image posts with some small text accompanying it.
Anyway it's a nice series, not groundbreaking or anything, but solid content and loads of it.

[Josef K.]

Awesome blog barba! Too bad these are some of the most unknown authors ever, I would not have known about them, if not for your post on that blog. I am sad that such manga don't fall in the mainstream category, simply because of the content that may disturb readers. I am happy that at least here on the Internet we help make them more popular.

[barbapapa]

Thanks Josef, glad I could serve someone with an interest in these things.

[Josef K.]

Hm, I have noticed that seinen in general rarely get a new fan base, aside from Gantz, that most start out of sheer curiosity because of the feedback they get from others, I visit this forum the most and almost no posts are seen within days, weeks sometimes, only two-three per week of solid discussion. Is the genre dying out and killing the discussion or is it that people are literally scared of reading seinen? I was about to open a discussion on how get seinen get more fans but I thought I'd ask here? It would have to do something with the popularization of the genre.

Most seinen readers are already familiar with this genre and like it and probably will always read it, others "shy away" from it, it's really bad, the same manga get the same people reading them, even established seinen readers are not keen on discussion, I believe they know they will not get anything out of it, not a good discussion I mean, so they do not bother starting.

[barbapapa]

Maybe most seinen readers have matured beyond "gabbing" about manga on forums? I know I'm a heck of a lot less active on forums compared to when I still read a lot of shounen series. Not that I don't enjoy talking about manga, because I really do and I hardly know anyone IRL who likes the same stuff I do. But then we're talking about real life conversations, which I would much rather have than use forums... To me forums are good for sharing information, and especially in the case of obscure seinen manga: spreading the word. As for discussions, I hardly partake in those about any subject. Don't be too surprised, but a lot of seinen readers are cynical fucks who have a hard time accepting what most think. ;-)

On the other hand I think that there's basically 2 groups of people that start reading manga:
- The kind that lose interest once they mature beyond what the mainstream has to offer.
- The kind that is too obsessed with comics to stop, and makes the leap towards a more mature, rewarding kind of reading.
It goes without saying that the first group is the larger one.

Either way I don't think the genre is dying, nor will it ever expand immensely. There has been a rise in the popularity of seinen manga in the last few years however, due to "bridging" series that narrow the gap between hardcore seinen and accessible shounen (I'm especially thinking of the works of Naoki Urasawa); and due to the general incline in manga readers. When I started reading manga in '04, even the most lukewarm of seinen manga was still considered to be obscure, and you could hardly find anyone talking about them.

[Josef K.]

This was an issue before in this thread I believe, it was just in a different context, I will have to check. But generally seinen has that unexplainable desire to make me want to discuss it, which never happened before to me sans One Piece, but I was really into discussing in dept theories about it and the story just delivers the atmosphere to discuss. Of course this was until I also discovered Gantz, where I was rushing to a forum or discussion board to tell my opinions about it, I tried reading faster to catch up to the discussion. After that the same with Liar Game which I read the fastest along with Gantz, 3 days I believe. And then Berserk, which was a special case really, I needed to take mental breaks to clear my mind at times, it was really scary at some points how the story sucked me in.

But spreading the word as you say really is key for me, spreading the word might make people want to come and share the ideas about the series, which MH does with it's recommendations and such, but something more is needed. More discussions about the genre, more explorations into it, truly for me seinen was like Berserk and Gantz, that's it, after that it was more manga like : "Journey to the End of the Earth", I think it was called which occupied my mind, so in reality we have seinens that are mainstream as well and yet other seinens are buried even with these mainstream ones. I would qualify to be an explorer into the seinen genre, I never really gave it a chance but Gantz was also shounen based at times so these bridging series might just be the case, Urasawa was really talked about right after these popular ones so his manga had an influence on my views as well. i noticed that all of them follow a similar pattern and something binds them, they are original and unknown.

[barbapapa]

To be honest sometimes I'm glad that seinen manga isn't as popular as shounen manga. Then again if it was I probably wouldn't care for it because it would be catering to a larger target audience.
But if those really obscure ones I enjoy most were just a tad more popular, and there was a common place to share opinions about these... I definitely would not mind that.

[Josef K.]

Hehe, keeping these manga to ourselves is good, I mean it does make them more special I think, not us reading them, but their story, I do not know, it's just a way at looking at these things, I guess best option would be to dig deeper into these manga and try to popularize new ones, like the Jump magazine does for it's manga, they promote them in the magazine and the WSJ thread is filled with people willing to start these new shounens.

[barbapapa]

I guess that's just the thing, those shounen series are the general image people have of manga. Easy to get into, pleasing to the eye, a "fun romp." Just look at how we ourselves got into it... I grew up watching Dragonball, not Monster. ;P
Whereas most seinen manga require a lot more from readers (and translators as well). Like I said, it's mostly for us grumpy, veteran readers who just refuse to let a hobby go. Thank god we still get something in terms of comics. :-)

[MattC302]

I think some people are afraid to talk about something deeper than fights and power levels and a lot of the Seinen manga require that. Not everyone is up for a deep conversation. I know I am sometimes reluctant to engage in that kind of conversation for fear that I am not smart enough.

[Josef K.]

I am UBER happy that I started a discussion. /pats self on back

Ok, well we did got into manga via shounen, to be correct for myself it was actually anime first, anime actually is the type of thing to spread the word about manga. My general image was that I see anime as guys with long hair, fights, coll animation, over the years it has become more, I think it was because of reading One Piece, that manga is story driven so I searched for manga that had more stories, even though Gantz was a lucky pick , it had the mystery feeling to it. Shounen are more categorized as comics, whereas Seinen is like a well written work of art. :D

I was afraid to admit reading Gantz at first, but that was the beauty of it, as I read on, as I said I wanted to get to discuss it. Sadly the irregularity of these manga really is their downfall as well, but it adds to them being special. Of course you need to know how to discuss them, but the sheer comment on a moment of the manga is enough to cause a discussion.

[barbapapa]

Just wondering, do any of you guys here also buy (or have the intention) to buy seinen manga?
I actually used to buy a shitload of shounen manga in English, but along the way I kept getting better at Japanese and at one point I figured "Okay, I still want to be buying manga, but these long-running shounen manga have to go."
Reasons such as: shounen being pretty easy to read in Japanese due to furigana - long running series tend to lose their drive, and thus are an unsure investment - most plain suck when you think about it
But the reason I still buy some seinen manga now and then is because I feel they need to be supported all the way. Plus it's kinda nice when you have a bookcase filled with stuff that is bound to go out of print. :m

One such manga I'm currently buying is Twin Spica published by Vertical. Though maybe hard to classify as seinen when you read it, it's definitely one of those I like to call "bridging" series. Not just between shounen and seinen, but I think even shoujo. I don't think many readers know about it, granted there was an anime adaptation at one point but it sucked pretty hard. Definitely enjoying the heck out of it, and I highly recommend it to people who like wholesome manga such as YKK (looks at Matt's sig), Piano no Mori, A Bride's Story, and so on.

[MattC302]

Just wondering, do any of you guys here also buy (or have the intention) to buy seinen manga?
I actually used to buy a shitload of shounen manga in English, but along the way I kept getting better at Japanese and at one point I figured "Okay, I still want to be buying manga, but these long-running shounen manga have to go."
Reasons such as: shounen being pretty easy to read in Japanese due to furigana - long running series tend to lose their drive, and thus are an unsure investment - most plain suck when you think about it
But the reason I still buy some seinen manga now and then is because I feel they need to be supported all the way. Plus it's kinda nice when you have a bookcase filled with stuff that is bound to go out of print. :m

One such manga I'm currently buying is Twin Spica published by Vertical. Though maybe hard to classify as seinen when you read it, it's definitely one of those I like to call "bridging" series. Not just between shounen and seinen, but I think even shoujo. I don't think many readers know about it, granted there was an anime adaptation at one point but it sucked pretty hard. Definitely enjoying the heck out of it, and I highly recommend it to people who like wholesome manga such as YKK (looks at Matt's sig), Piano no Mori, A Bride's Story, and so on.

I buy any manga that interests me regardless of the demographic, but yeah, I am more likely to buy a shorter Seinen series than a long running Shonen. The only long running Shonen I am collecting is One Piece. 58 volumes and going, I can't really afford to invest in another like it. Among the Seinen in my collection are the complete series of Pluto, 20th Century Boys, REAL, A Bride's Story, Vagabond, and Eden:It's An Endless World!. I plan to continue buying these ongoing series and eventually add Akira, Berserk and Blade of the Immortal to my collection.

YKK is one of my favorite series and I would sell my soul to be able to add that to my collection. I doubt it will ever get licensed though.

[Josef K.]

Oh if only I could! My country is not that developed to have manga distributed here, in any language, the only way to get them is the Internet, but that also is tricky since most of the Internet is quite expensive when it comes to stuff like that, when I went to Germany I tried to buy some in that language but sadly I could not find, i do understand that well enough to read.

Even shounens are not distributed here, seinen would be like books banned form the church, seriously it would weird people out and stuff but even if it does arrive people will not spend money to buy them, not a good business.

[barbapapa]

YKK is one of my favorite series and I would sell my soul to be able to add that to my collection. I doubt it will ever get licensed though.

Haha, yeah I remember the olden days when I wanted to rally for an English licensed version of YKK. I should really get the original books at one point...
Same for Akira btw, that's one big name still missing from my collection. But hey, my birthday is coming up, and who knows someone actually buys me a great gift this year. ;p

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Oh if only I could! My country is not that developed to have manga distributed here, in any language, the only way to get them is the Internet, but that also is tricky since most of the Internet is quite expensive when it comes to stuff like that, when I went to Germany I tried to buy some in that language but sadly I could not find, i do understand that well enough to read.

Even shounens are not distributed here, seinen would be like books banned form the church, seriously it would weird people out and stuff but even if it does arrive people will not spend money to buy them, not a good business.

Do you know about bookdepository.com? I'm not sure if they ship to Macedonia, but they offer free international shipping. :)

[MattC302]

Oh if only I could! My country is not that developed to have manga distributed here, in any language, the only way to get them is the Internet, but that also is tricky since most of the Internet is quite expensive when it comes to stuff like that, when I went to Germany I tried to buy some in that language but sadly I could not find, i do understand that well enough to read.

Even shounens are not distributed here, seinen would be like books banned form the church, seriously it would weird people out and stuff but even if it does arrive people will not spend money to buy them, not a good business.

Amazon ships world wide. That's where I buy most of my manga since Borders shut down. Or you could just go to college in an English speaking country since you seem to read and write English well enough.

[Josef K.]

@ barba

Um, well I have not heard of that? >.>
I doubt it, the country does not have other industries developed nor international relations that well, but I am willing to look into it.

@ Matt

I would but that process is even harder here., plus it's a hard choice. The again everything is closed off here for now, from the rest of the world, it's harder getting things and doing things.

As for which manga I would buy if I had the chance, probably start a library, like I did with books, collect them, buy them weekly or monthly if that is the case, since it will be my first time buying them, I don't know hard choice to pick something, probably some newer volumes of Berserk, the art would be wonderful to view!

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I do not know if seinen manga can be like this, although probably not the genre to mix with seinens, but are there any manga that bring together mythical creatures, myths and stuff and old fairy tales from children books? Probably something like characters are drawn in Berserk, medieval style I guess.

[baboysai]

I think I've encountered some like that... I just can't remember... one-shots, maybe.

Anyways its not a far-fetched idea since a lot of contemporary literary works, not manga, do use children's stories a lot and twist them into gruesome or scary tellings. So if it happens with western literature, how much more in manga where the japanese tend to be more... er... adventurous? :p

[Josef K.]

That is the problem that I would have with such a manga being shounen, it would focus on adventure and fights and stuff that myths actually are not, that is why a manga with a story and combination of fairy tales and myth would fall under seinen, it does not need to be scary or violent I suppose, even though myths tend to be like that.

But indeed today many use that and cartoon in the western world are a manifestation of children stories and real life most of the time, in Japan they have a different tradition but I think such manga can be found. :)

[barbapapa]

Well, Ryuguden is loosely based on the tale of Urashima Taro.

[Josef K.]

Um yes so I started it.^^

Really had to stop after chapter 15 though, I really enjoyed the first volume a lot, and the series would have been good just doing the first one, this second one started off good but something about it bothered, where is the Ryuguden thread here so we can discuss?

[barbapapa]

I highly doubt there is one. ;p

[Josef K.]

Oh snap. >_<

So yeah discussion here in spoiler tags unless someone wants to start it ok?

So I really liked the fish guy as being just a normal villain not evolving too much, plus Ani not falling in love was a good deal until in volume 2 he did, it would have been good if only Bo had the love thing with the fish girl and it should have developed form there. But Ani is an easier target with his love for the fish guy. And the whole story about the past was rather unsuited in the middle of things, perhaps it could have been done later. So yeah I will try and finish it these days out of curiosity but volume one was indeed epic and interesting, the pace and stuff in the second was what got me off.

[barbapapa]

Well, I loved pretty much all of it. Especially the explanation about the past etc.
Also it's been more than 5 years since I read it, so it's kind of hard to delve into details for myself. I think I'm gonna reread it though.

[igotthegoods]

Oh snap. >_<

So yeah discussion here in spoiler tags unless someone wants to start it ok?

So I really liked the fish guy as being just a normal villain not evolving too much, plus Ani not falling in love was a good deal until in volume 2 he did, it would have been good if only Bo had the love thing with the fish girl and it should have developed form there. But Ani is an easier target with his love for the fish guy. And the whole story about the past was rather unsuited in the middle of things, perhaps it could have been done later. So yeah I will try and finish it these days out of curiosity but volume one was indeed epic and interesting, the pace and stuff in the second was what got me off.

I do hope you realize you are able to start threads about any series you want to discuss. There's no need to wait for a mod to start it. In fact, I would encourage you to do so. :)

[Josef K.]

Yup, I always get confused with these things. >.<

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/72973-Ryuuguuden-by-Matsunaga-Toyokazu?p=2626780#post2626780

Come discuss everyone.^^ :vbunny

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Everyone! Please join in with recommendations to new seinen readers here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/73106-Seinen-manga-for-beginners). All suggestions are welcomed!

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Seinen Manga For Professionals. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/announcement.php?f=54&a=221) Visit the thread and suggest away!

[barbapapa]

I've been reading (and using as a translating exercise) Hakuba no Oujisama (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=17283) (Prince on a White Horse). It's a 10-volume manga by Yukizo Saku, who also wrote Self; a manga about masturbation which was partly scanlated some time ago by some guy/group called c_k. Anyway it's pretty good so far; the angle and tone is pretty mature. It focuses on two high school teachers, one newly appointed male teacher called Kotaro Ozu (25) who has to learn the ropes from an older female teacher (Takako Hara, 32). Ozu isn't interested in younger women, and Hara is insecure about being single at her age.

[Josef K.]

Seinen fans, seinen fans~

Let it be heard across this great board that the Manga and Anime Awards (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/931-Manga-and-Anime-Awards), have started once again and if you would be so kind and go nominate some of your favorites there. :)

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Seinen fans, be sure to check out the mangahelpers yearbook posted on the front page. :)

[MattC302]

I've got to say, I'm kind of excited with some of the licensing announcements today. Yen Press licensed Thermae Romae and Mori Kaoru's short story collection 'Anything and Something'. Also, Dark Horse licensed Hiroaki Samura's short story collection 'Emerald and Other Stories'. The latter two I especially can't wait for. Money is kind of tight and I can't afford to follow long series anymore. These single volume books are exactly what I am looking for manga licensing companies to acquire.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-04-07/dark-horse-adds-oreimo-blood-c-evangelion/comic-tribute-manga

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-04-07/yen-press-adds-thermae-romae-anything-and-something-umineko-no-naku-koro-ni

[Josef K.]

Hello seinen fans! Visit the new Role Playing forum (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/1010-Role-Playing-Forum)and start making up RPs and enjoy participating in them. :)

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Anyone know a good tragedy/drama like manga? I mean really classical tragedy stuff, though a tragedy that involves some modern plots can do as well, thanks. :)

[Kaiten]

Tragedy in the Sophocles sense of the word? Nothing really comes to mind, except maybe Griffith in Berserk.

[Josef K.]

Tragedy in the Sophocles sense of the word? Nothing really comes to mind, except maybe Griffith in Berserk.

Yeah, Aristotelian like, though anything that has a tragic connotation to it, something to get you thinking as well. So a more modern plot would do as I said, of course if the manga is more epic the better, a tragic quest or along those lines. It is really hard to find a character done that way though, even manga.

[Totilas]

Not sure if this is the right place for me to be asking, but couldn't find any recommendation thread.


As I was reading through the "most disturbing seinen titles" thread, the author Kago Shintaro was mentioned. I don't know any of his work, but since he was mentioned in that thread, I'm kind of curious now. So I was hoping that someone could recommend one or several manga by him, that I should definitely read???

[Kaiten]

Kago's manga are not for everyone, more people than not find him highly offensive. If you are interested I recommend starting with Abstraction (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=14926), a one shot mentioned in the disturbing titles thread. If you enjoy Abstraction try Dance Kremlin Palace (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=31028). While his manga can be very offensive, Kago has an amazing sense of humor. There is some great, black humor in his manga, particularly Dance Kremlin Palace. I need to read his latest title, Anamorphis, which I have downloaded, but have not had the chance to read.

[Totilas]

Kago's manga are not for everyone, more people than not find him highly offensive. If you are interested I recommend starting with Abstraction (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=14926), a one shot mentioned in the disturbing titles thread. If you enjoy Abstraction try Dance Kremlin Palace (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=31028). While his manga can be very offensive, Kago has an amazing sense of humor. There is some great, black humor in his manga, particularly Dance Kremlin Palace. I need to read his latest title, Anamorphis, which I have downloaded, but have not had the chance to read.

Thanks Kaiten, I really appreciate that!!!! I will tjeck it out, just finished Shamo, and need something new to read :)

[Kaiten]

You're welcome :D

Shamo is another good one, always glad to see more fans. Hopefully volume 27 is scanlated soon.

[Josef K.]

Be careful with most of his work, the word disturbing perhaps is not the the best way to sum up all that he does, go for the ones with more comedy and satire than the ones that are a bit more darker. But his works you are stepping into the surreal no matter what, so it is kind of pointless. xD

[Totilas]

You're welcome :D

Shamo is another good one, always glad to see more fans. Hopefully volume 27 is scanlated soon.

Yay! That would be amazing, became more and more thrilled about it, so can't wait to see what happens next.


Be careful with most of his work, the word disturbing perhaps is not the the best way to sum up all that he does, go for the ones with more comedy and satire than the ones that are a bit more darker. But his works you are stepping into the surreal no matter what, so it is kind of pointless. xD

Hmm, everything that is dark, disturbing and weird would have my interest, so I'm excited to get started on Abstraction! :D

EDIT: (!!!) Just read it, and (OMG) what was that?!?! :D That was weeeeird!!!!
I actually thought it was a "normal" manga, so I got a bit surprised there ;)
I will have to tjeck out more of his work, that was interesting and so weird at the same time!

[Josef K.]

You are in uncharted territories now. :XD If you like surreal and weird stuff but a little less disturbing, try Matsunaga, even though he has his fair share of weirdness, he does offer a more humane take with his manga. Paperakyu, Bakune Young, Ryuuguuden, all masterpieces if you ask me. :)

[scav]

gunnm last order is no more on hiatus :hee i made a thread http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/76670-Gunnm-last-order-Battle-angel-alita-last-order?p=2876641#post2876641

[Josef K.]

gunnm last order is no more on hiatus :hee i made a thread http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/76670-Gunnm-last-order-Battle-angel-alita-last-order?p=2876641#post2876641

Damn! You sure picked the manga with one of the best drawn manga out there, the art is so cyberpunky~ :p I think the character is just so wonderful plus she is god like. :D I also can not believe there was not thread for it.

[baboysai]

yay new chapters of Saint Young men have been scanlated. ^^ or... they're old releases but just scanlated now? I can't tell :/

[scav]

Damn! You sure picked the manga with one of the best drawn manga out there, the art is so cyberpunky~ :p I think the character is just so wonderful plus she is god like. :D I also can not believe there was not thread for it.

ah, i thought i was the only one who read gunnm here :zomg
yeah i also love the art. but it take some time to get used with the author's style

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You're welcome :D

Shamo is another good one, always glad to see more fans. Hopefully volume 27 is scanlated soon.

wow i' m surprised shamo is still on going. i read it first 5 or 6 years ago. but it became weird when he found his sister, the manga took another direction.

[Josef K.]

Anyone have a suggestion for a a manga that deals with pregnancy? It is something I rarely bump into when reading manga, and I want to see how it is portrayed, Thanks. :)

[baboysai]

There was one I read about two sisters, the other one (18 years old) recently gave birth and it's a cute manga- but I think I only read one chapter and I'm not sure if it's being scanlated still. I checked it out just now and apparently there are 4 chapters out- but it's been like a year ago since. The title is Digopuri

[Crude]

I heard that Crime and Punishment: A Falsified Romance has been licensed. Is that true? I loved reading the series up until the scanlations stopped so reading the rest would be awesome! I also heard it got either a movie or a drama.

[baboysai]

What is that? I never heard of that- but I am familiar with the book (the classic one- currently reading it) how are they related?

[Kaiten]

I heard that Crime and Punishment: A Falsified Romance has been licensed. Is that true? I loved reading the series up until the scanlations stopped so reading the rest would be awesome! I also heard it got either a movie or a drama.

It's on the JManga website, but there does not seem to be any plans to release it in book form.

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What is that? I never heard of that- but I am familiar with the book (the classic one- currently reading it) how are they related?

The manga (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=15611) is (very) loosely based on the novel.

[Josef K.]

To be honest, compared to the book, I was a bit disappointed in the manga, I do not know, perhaps it was a bit too much to chew for the mangaka? I think visually he did not capture how I viewed the book.

[Crude]

But the story gradually deviated from the book did it not? The series definitely got me interested in reading the original work (now that think about it, why am I not reading it now? :D)

[Josef K.]

But the story gradually deviated from the book did it not? The series definitely got me interested in reading the original work (now that think about it, why am I not reading it now? :D)

I think the manga lacked the psychological tension that is common in the book, thanks to the writing style, though some things were done good visualization of:

The murders that Raskolnikov did were done good. The atmosphere was not because that is a key elements in the psychological structure and the setting(place) of the novel.

Still a good read, because it gets you interested in the novel. :D

[baboysai]

if that was the mangaka's intention then it certainly worked.

Most manga adaptations of classics tend to fall short. There are reasons why works are called classics in the first place, and it is always a great task to rewrite or adapt them. Bold, if anything.

[Kaiten]

I've been really into the works of Maruo Suehiro (http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=1256) recently, reading two of his short gekiga, Warau Kyuuketsuki and Shoujo Tsubaki, last night. His work mix surrealism, violence, sex, and decadence as commentary on the strange, perverse nature of modern life. His artwork is gorgeous, with incredibly innovative panel work, often reproduced as lithographs in Japan. Much of his work borders on ero-guro, and are not for the faint of heart. Highly recommended for anyone not easily offended, looking for something of the highest artistic quality. Compare to the works of Nishioka Brosis or Kago Shintaro.

[MattC302]

^He did 'The Strange Tale of Panorama Island', right? I've been wanting to buy that for a while now, but I think the release date keeps getting pushed back or something. I'm looking forward to it even more after sampling the art of some of the manga you mentioned in another thread.

[Kaiten]

Yes, Panorama Island is one of his manga. As of right now the release date is August 12, but Amazon does not yet allow for pre-order. As soon as they do, I am planning on buying it. From what I understand while Panorama Island still has an outsize amount of adult content, it is not borderline guro, like his older, Serindo published works.

[Josef K.]

As with all art, perverse stuff, nudity is common even in the more older stuff, with the new modern art it is no question it is the main. Though the mix of murder, violence and stuff is kind of a double edged sword. I do not know if it holds much value apart for being there just for gore fan-service. It is truly amazing that art has that far to display the utmost expressionistic aspects of life. It seems expressionism developed mostly out of all of the modern art styles. As his work can be seen on the evil human nature that is common in today's society, I think generally evil as an aspect of art has always been there, the display of it, it is better to see what is evil than to do it. I think it goes back to tragedy being there to get rid of the passions of man, said by Aristotle, though because today we can actually see these things more clearly, in a modern communications age, we slowly get used to them. But I think as far as it goes it can emotionally harm those who are not prepared. Still worth a try to at least see what it is.

[baboysai]

okay I just started reading REAL and I'm now in the 4th volume- I gotta say I missed Takehiko Inoue's humor. It was evident in Slam Dunk, but not quite so with Vagabond since it had a different mood and setting. But again with Real, because of the characters that he has in this story, his sense of humor is showing up again and I really enjoy his style.

[MattC302]

Anyone here read Gisele Alain (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=45042)? I just sampled it, but it immediately reminded me of Emma. Even the art style vaguely resembles Mori Kaoru's. Did this author work as Mori Kaoru's assistant or something?

[baboysai]

Speaking of Mori Kaoru, I just finished Emma two days ago. But I'm pretty sure it's Josei. Although Otoyomenagatari would be seinen right?

[barbapapa]

Strictly, both seinen. None of Mori's series ran in josei magazines.

[haet]

Anyone here read Gisele Alain (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=45042)? I just sampled it, but it immediately reminded me of Emma. Even the art style vaguely resembles Mori Kaoru's. Did this author work as Mori Kaoru's assistant or something?

Did a bit of googling; apparently she hasn't worked as Mori's assistant, but for what it's worth, she has apparently said that she's a fan of Mori's work

The art in Fellows! in general reminds me of Mori, really -- if they have a house style, I think Kaoru Mori would basically personify it -- but it's true that Sui Sasai (Gisele Alain's artist) draws so much like Mori that you could easily mistake them for the same person. There's gotta be some influence.

[MattC302]

Did a bit of googling; apparently she hasn't worked as Mori's assistant, but for what it's worth, she has apparently said that she's a fan of Mori's work

The art in Fellows! in general reminds me of Mori, really -- if they have a house style, I think Kaoru Mori would basically personify it -- but it's true that Sui Sasai (Gisele Alain's artist) draws so much like Mori that you could easily mistake them for the same person. There's gotta be some influence.

Thanks for looking into that for me. I was a little afraid that I was the only one that saw the similarity.

[Josef K.]

Does anyone know a manga that uses dadaist artistic style?

[baboysai]

hey guys. I just read this manga Natsu no Zenjitsu (http://mangahelpers.com/m/natsu-no-zenjitsu) and I loved it. Reminded me of Honey and Clover, but more adult. I wonder if anyone else has read this? I'm just sharing :cookiehand

[Mr. Arashi]

Someone reading Tobaku Datenroku Kaiji?
I didn't found out in the forum, and its being scanlated with chapters out frequently. I really want to coment the outcome of the hardships of Kaiji.

[Galactic Tomahawk]

I was browsing through a bunch of horror manga when I found this (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11072) and decided to read it on a whim.

It was unexpectedly amazing.

[baboysai]

Comedy Horror? First time I've heard of the genre... I cannot fathom how the two could mix...

[Josef K.]

Community awards are live! (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/1037-Community-Awards-2012)

Please participate as well. :)

[naruto-niichan]

The last round of the Community Awards Voting (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/1037-Community-Awards-2012) has started three days ago and we really need more people giving their vote! Please go ahead guys and help to make this an awesome finish :blai

[Drmke]

I feel like there is/used to be a recommendations thread around here somewhere but this should be good enough.

Anybody reading any interesting new seinen manga lately? I've been having trouble shifting through titles as of late and since I know a lot of you have a fantastic eye for new titles I thought you guys could be of some help. ;)

[baboysai]

Well I'm still thoroughly impressed with how Genshiken is moving forward.

I wonder if you've read that?

[Drmke]

Hmm I actually don't even remember hearing about it -_-; But from what I'm currently reading about it through reviews on MangaUpdates (and since you brought it up) I'll try it out. Haven't read a slice of life not in Shonen Jump in awhile so this should be fun.

[baboysai]

not heard of Genshiken?? :gwah

then you should read it, Dermie. The anime was done well, too. Pretty awesome, actually. Especially because you could hear the "ringtones" that you'll read in the first chapter hehe.

[Josef K.]

Onepunch man is the upcoming star series. At least in my view, it is the best new seinen out there. I am still sticking to some of my classic reading list. Currently the best ongoing seinen to me is Billy Bat. It would be Berserk but that is the non-regular number one.

Feeling weird on Gantz and where it is headed, Liar Game is progressing a bit weird as well, breaks and stuff constantly. Other series have strange release dates by the scan groups so hard to keep track but I am doing the best I can to spot when some of my favs have a new chapter.

[k-dom]

Seems like Onepunch man is making the buzz :-))
My last seinen revelation is Dorohedoro but I guess I was late on this one. Anyway those who might not have started it must do it.
Now I'm reading a very unusual and cute sci-fi story called Saturn appartment (also from ikki). It's the French translation though I'm not sure all books are available in English

[Mr. Prince]

I was actually surprised seeing how One Punch-Man got bigger and bigger these past few weeks. Never EVER expected it to cause such a stirr. I thought it was something Japanese readers could enjoy more than the Western fandom. - Couldn't be happier about misjudging this one. :D

As for awesome new series, best stuff I've read this year has got to be Kagamino Hachi's ad astra - Scipio to Hannibal from Ultra JUMP. I'm also having a blast with Saruwatari Tetsuya's new manga GOKUSAI (never thought I would ever enjoy a manga by Saruwatari as much...) and the Grand Jump Premium anthology keeps impressing me more and more with every new series I read from it. That mag deserves more love from the scanlation scene!

[MattC302]

Seems like Onepunch man is making the buzz :-))
My last seinen revelation is Dorohedoro but I guess I was late on this one. Anyway those who might not have started it must do it.
Now I'm reading a very unusual and cute sci-fi story called Saturn appartment (also from ikki). It's the French translation though I'm not sure all books are available in English

I've read the first 3 volumes of Saturn Apartments. It was fine, but didn't really grab me enough to seek out the rest of the volumes.

I've been wanting to read Dorohedoro for a while, but I keep putting it off for whatever reason. I think I'll get on that next.

[Doraku]

I was actually surprised seeing how One Punch-Man got bigger and bigger these past few weeks. Never EVER expected it to cause such a stirr. I thought it was something Japanese readers could enjoy more than the Western fandom. - Couldn't be happier about misjudging this one. :D


I think as long as it is able to maintain its consistency in jokes and make us laugh when we read it, it'll be getting bigger and bigger. :nod, Not to mention that Yuusuke Murata is also quite popular when he made Eyeshield 21, and I'm always amazed how much his artwork progresses during the last couple of years, and he's so innovative (I'm referring to his 3-D manga) so I'm betting that Wanpanman would be a huge hit. :nod



I've been wanting to read Dorohedoro for a while, but I keep putting it off for whatever reason. I think I'll get on that next.

I encourage you to read Dorohedoro too, at first I thought this manga is an aimless gore manga, but it turned out to be really interesting.

[baboysai]

wow you've mentioned titles I've never even heard of! :gwah

so now I've got more additions to my to-read list...

[Drmke]

Dorohedoro is fantastic! I don't read the scans but I've got the first 5 volumes from VIZ and I can't get enough. And I'm also enjoying Onepunch Man though I've only read the first few chapters.

[k-dom]

I was actually surprised seeing how One Punch-Man got bigger and bigger these past few weeks. Never EVER expected it to cause such a stirr. I thought it was something Japanese readers could enjoy more than the Western fandom. - Couldn't be happier about misjudging this one. :D

Well it's by a big author name so it's not really that surprising plus the humor is quite universal



As for awesome new series, best stuff I've read this year has got to be Kagamino Hachi's ad astra - Scipio to Hannibal from Ultra JUMP. I'm also having a blast with Saruwatari Tetsuya's new manga GOKUSAI (never thought I would ever enjoy a manga by Saruwatari as much...) and the Grand Jump Premium anthology keeps impressing me more and more with every new series I read from it. That mag deserves more love from the scanlation scene!
Oh I put Gokusai in my watch list recently. It's really to bad no one is translating it........
Unless Illuminati is planing to start it, they have projects by Saruwatari Tetsuya planned.


I've read the first 3 volumes of Saturn Apartments. It was fine, but didn't really grab me enough to seek out the rest of the volumes.

I've been wanting to read Dorohedoro for a while, but I keep putting it off for whatever reason. I think I'll get on that next.
Well it's true that it's a very slow paced manga but I enjoy the round graphism and all characters are likeable.

[Mr. Prince]

Oh I put Gokusai in my watch list recently. It's really to bad no one is translating it........
Unless Illuminati is planing to start it, they have projects by Saruwatari Tetsuya planned.
I actually fancy translating the series. If it wasn't for HUNGRY JOKER popping up I would have probably already released some scripts... :sweat But I will try to get back to the manga as soon as I got a little less on my plate! Like I promised, I'll keep you updated in regards to my projects.

[Josef K.]

Seinen manga are best followed by the magazine they run in. Young Jump, Ikki, Young Animal ect. Mostly the magazines feature similar stuff that if you like one series you will like the other. So that is the approach I taken when looking for new seinen.

But why are so little people reading Billy Bat? D:

[MattC302]

But why are so little people reading Billy Bat? D:

I'm personally waiting for more chapters to build up or maybe even for it to end. I find Urasawa's works to be more enjoyable when you read a bunch of chapters in one go.

[k-dom]

It's the same for me especially in this one where the plot is extremely complex: all civilizations in every epochs...

[Josef K.]

I'm personally waiting for more chapters to build up or maybe even for it to end. I find Urasawa's works to be more enjoyable when you read a bunch of chapters in one go.


It's the same for me especially in this one where the plot is extremely complex: all civilizations in every epochs...

It is hard to follow, though I just feel there is a lack of opinion on it. For instance it has been almost 100 chapters, and I have not seen a solid judgement about it.

[baboysai]

I am also a fan of Urasawa after his two big hits 20CB and Monster, but I never got around to reading Billy Bat. It's in my to-read list though :sweatdrop And yes, I'd agree that his works would be better off read in one go.

[Doraku]

Same here, I read several first chapters of Billy Bat, found it's really interesting, but I will resume to read it once it's wrapped up. The same case happen to Liar Game, I never read it when a new chapter is released, I have to wait until one game has been cleared otherwise Liar Game is too confusing for me to follow.

[Josef K.]

It can get very confusing, but considering it is almost a 100 chapters long as I said I think it may be worth picking up. The story keeps piling on though. Typical by Urasawa, but I find it interesting of the many CLIFFHANGERS that is brings, and they are very original, so reading next chapters is all that much sweeter. :)

Oh, and does anyone have any suggestions about a discussion thread for seinen? I was thinking of discussing the various types of seinen magazines and the manga that run in them. For example which magazine puts up which kind of manga.

[k-dom]

Some guy was brave enough to attack the dinosaur of morning:
Cooking papa chapter 1 (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/cooking-papa-r7712). This makes me wish what did you eat yesterday ? was resumed someday

[Josef K.]

Please visit and nominate in the Anime Awards, link is in my signature. :thumbs

[lasert]

Hello everyone,

First of all happy new year !
I was thinking about a Manga I discovered in a Book Shop 2 years ago, but I never had the chance to see it again. Back then It was just released in France. The title was something like "Syndrome 97" or 87... something like that. It's a little bit in the drama/criminal investigation type. Very intense too.

Here are a few details on the beginning of the story.
Basically the story was about a University Student who was a "no-life". He stayed home all day, basically never took his trash out... Anyway once he decided to go out and noticed a group of girls that were harassing another girl. She was like their slave. And The main character became interested in them... anyway to cut a long story short, he ends up killing the leader of the group and the girl who was harassed by her, even if in the beginning he was supposed to help her. And since then he was on the run... that's basically when I stopped reading.

Can anyone help me find the exact title? Every time I try to google it I only find "Sakuranbo Syndrome" and that's definitely not it !
Thank you for your time.
Cheers :)

[k-dom]

In manga news database there is only 3 French titles with syndrome. One of them is syndrome 1866, Tsumi to batsu in bakaupdate (not scanlated). I think it can match your description

[Josef K.]

The anime awards voting has started! Everyone please follow the link in my sig and vote for your favs!

[Cupid]

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[ukimix]

Hi there. I just want to invite you to the Collective Reading of Classic Manga Project. We are voting now to select one of these classic comics to be read with all who wants to participate.

20th Century Boys (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/20th-century-boys-r843), Akumetsu (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=397), Ares (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=688), Beck (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/beck-r536), Eden it's an endless world (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=930), GTO (http://www.mangareader.net/114/great-teacher-onizuka.html), Hellsing (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/hellsing-r114), Holyland (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1629), Homunculus (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1525), Hoshi no Samidare (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/hoshi-no-samidare-r222), Houshin Engi (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=229), Kokou no Hito (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=19567), Konjiki no Gash!! (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=301), Nausicäa (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/kaze-no-tani-no-nausicaa-r6760), Parasyte (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1000), Planetes (http://www.mangareader.net/968/planetes.html), Pluto (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/pluto-r1594), Sanctuary (http://www.mangareader.net/sanctuary), Shigurui (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=2304), Shin Angyo Onshi (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=164), Slam Dunk (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/slam-dunk-r3943), Superior/Superior Cross (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6685), Touch (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=589), Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou (http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yokohama-kaidashi-kikou-r1110).

If you would want to read one of them, you can join us in this project. To know the details, you just have to click the link on my signature.





(Re)reading classic literature is part of our current education and life on society. Why not (re)reading classic comics?

[Easter Bunny]

Hello dear members of MH, a quick post to invite you take part in the Easter Egg Hunt:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn167/goldb/MH%20stuff/Easteriscoming_zps9f7454a4.png (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/2990189-MH-Easter-Egg-Hunt)

Click on the image or follow this link (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/2990189-MH-Easter-Egg-Hunt) to sign up. Hope to see you there~

EB:vbunny

[baboysai]

Looking at Dora-kun's sig, I was reminded of Saint young men. And when I looked it up, it's already 8 volumes in Japan. But scanlation is only up to the third volume. I even thought it was already complete but apparently it's still ongoing?

[ukimix]

I wanted to invite you to join us in the collective reading of

EDEN, IT'S AN ENDLESS WORLD, by Endo Hiroki We will begin in May 30th/13. Here the thread for the collective reading: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/2991336-Collective-reading-of-EDEN-IT-S-AN-ENDLESS-WORLD-by-ENDO-Hiroki