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KnuckleheadedNinja

October 30, 2008, 08:38 PM

Chapter 423 Review.

Wow, the chapter came out unbelievable early this week. I think this have to be the earliest i have ever seen a chapter come out since i start reading the manga.

The Much Needed Reinforcement
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A full force Reinforcement finally arrived, Chouji and his Dad and 4 other ninjas(probably low level Jounins). It now 7 vs. 1, let see what you do against that God. It Also seems like Chouji father and Kakashi have seen some action together. And he is quite aware of Kakashi ability. They probably team up before Kakashi become Team 7 leader. Kakashi didn't have any team before Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura, so he probably had a lot of time to team up with other Jounins like Chouji father. Also to the people who keep saying Kakashi have a low chakra i hope you see now that he really doesn't. After popping like 4 Rakiri, a wall summon, sharingan on, and RaiKagebushin he still have about half of his charka left. And we know that RaiKagebushin is the jutsu that took almost half of his chakra away.

Another important thing i took off this page is how well know and how well respect Kakashi is among Konoha ninjas. This is an important thing because if Tsunade were to die Kakashi and Danzou we be left to "fight" for the hokage title. And like i have told a lot of people before Kakashi have a better chance of getting the title because he is well know and well respected by all Konoha ninja. While Danzou on the other hand is like an outcast. Konoha ninja will chose to follow Kakashi rather Danzou. The only supporter Danzou got is Root. But all this might be BS base on what supposedly happen to Kakashi at the end of this chapter.

Reinforcements on the Attack.
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The Reinforcements make there move but they should have waited for Kakashi to fully brief them on the situation. They should have made more of a defense move than an offense attack. But because they weren't the helpers become the helpless. I hope they are not dead. At least they had some purpose, they allow Kakashi to fully understand Pein abilities. But i find it ridiculous sometimes how Kishi portray the fodders nins in the manga. I mean Kakashi has been lasting for like 4 chapters and 4 nins that seem like jounins can't even last more 3 pages. Come on Kishi i know they are fodders but they shouldn't get defeated in just 3 pages. And Kakashi even have to save Chouji and his father with the smoke bomb.

The Human Gravity.
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I knew Pein power have something to do with gravitation force. So we now know that God Realm can pull and repel things. God Realm seem like the most diverse of all Pein's bodies. No wonder Pein have never lost a fight, the guy is the bomb like tic tic. Even the God Realm body alone is enough to give any ninja a problem. While he can deflect all attack, he can't do it continuously. There is a short interval between when he can use it back to back, which means Naruto will have to be ridiculously fast to be able to get to him within those interval. Looks like Naruto might need Harishin after all. But as expect Kakashi the genius is able to formulate a plan to allow him to get to Pein doing the interval.

Truly a Copy Ninja.
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Now Kakashi doesn't even need to see a move to copy it, all he need is to here about how someone did it(just joking by the way). He is using the move Naruto's used against Neji. I think this is one of the thing that make Kakashi a genius, his ability to use other people move wisely and to the best of the situation.

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Pein is even showing respect to Kakashi brilliancy. But is it me or does it look like throughout this fight Pein have shown more respect to Kakashi than he did to Jiraiya. He figure that Kakashi might cause him a lot of trouble in the future so he is trying to eliminate him.

Kakashi's Plan: Get Sandwich Enwrap Pein
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It first look like Kakashi plan was to get Chouji and his father to sandwich Pein but his plan was actually to wrap Pein up and immobilize him....

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Kakashi already implant the chain so all Chouji and his father have to do was pick it up and Wrap Pein up. Kakashi probably knew that Chouji and his father wouldn't be fast enough to get to Pein doing the interval to sandwich him, that is why the Plan was to immobilize Pein so Kakashi can attack rather than Chouji and his father tenderizing Pein. Notice that Kakashi need two people to help him so he can get to God Realm within the interval. That is why i have now become a full subscriber to Naruto learning Hairishin. Naruto will have to be ridiculously fast to get to Pein within the interval. But Kakashi doton have been really useful for him in most of his fights. Doton had been my least favorite element but seeing how Kakashi have been using it so far i'm starting to like it.

DIE PEIN!!!
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Oh shit Kakashi is going to kill God Realm Pein. Also notice that Kakashi is going for God Realm eye/face, he have been during that this whole fight. But wait a minute.......

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Just in time. Demon Realm is able to intercept the Rakiri. This remind me of how Haku toke the rakiri for zabuza in Part 1. But i'm sure i am not the only one who find it ridiculous how Demon Realm was able to intercept the rakiri right there. Kakashi hand was like only one feet away from God Realm face and for some ungodly reason Demon realm was able to intercept it, come on. But at least Demon realm is now down for the count, there is no way he is getting up from that.

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Unlike he did when Haku intercept his rakiri against Zabuza, Kakashi pierces through Demon realm and try to get to God realm but unfortunatly for him him the interval is over and God realm can now repel him.

The Rise of a True Leader.
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The first requirement of a true leader is for him to care about his people and Naruto is showing right here that he do care about Konoha. So all of you who think all he care about is Sasuke, can now see that he care about the village just as much as he care about Sasuke, if not more. These page is the first page that have shown how much Naruto have mature since Jiraiya's death. The childish Naruto we know is fading away. Also Pa frog actually know that Naruto go off at night on his own. I can't wait to see Naruto reaction when he see Konoha in destruction. Oh boy, he is going to be piss off.

The Messenger that Will Never Come(R.I.P Jumpy)
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Look like the frog world aren't aware that Jumpy is died, Pa frog is still expecting to get a message from him. So this prove the theory that the toad sage might be able to sense the death of Jumpy wrong. Also this prove the theory that Naruto wouldn't be able to get back to Konoha by summoning and will have walk back because Jumpy is died wrong. I hope people now see that Jumpy wasn't going to summon Naruto back. All Naruto will have to do is reverse summoning to get back to Konoha, like the toads do to get back to the mountain.

KAKASHI DEATH........AGAIN: DEATH BY NAIL.
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Oh no, Kakashi is nailed. First i don't think Kakashi died. Kishi is not going to kill Kakashi this way. Also Kakashi is not going to die without having using his MS. I also don't see Kakashi getting hit by something that he know is coming, even if he is immobilize. I don't think Kakashi is going to lose his sharingan. The sharingan mean as much to him as his life. Not just for how it help him in battle and make him a legend, but because it was Obito final gift to him. So i think there is a better chance of Kakashi dying, even though i don't see him dying, than him losing the sharingan. Also i don't think Kakashi is losing his other eye, i don't see what point that will serve. So my guess is Kakashi use his MS or he using some genjutsu. Chouji and his father are out cold so they couldn't have done anything to save Kakashi. It might be genjutsu and Kakashi is making Pein see him getting nail. We already saw Pein getting caught in a genjutsu before, so he isn't antigenjutsu. Or Kakashi might be using his MS and that is why we see blood dipping from his face, since we have see MS jutsu causing the usere eye to bleed. We know Kakashi can use his MS fast enough to use it to avoid the nail. He was able to suck diedera bomb away in gaara arc. Also to those who think it might be Pein who got nail, that is definitely "Kakashi" right there not Pein.

But then again it might really be Kakashi, which will suck like hell. And Kakashi will need Tsunade to heal him. This is probably the best/greatest suspense Kishi ever done.

RATING
Really nice chapter, expect the part about "Kakashi" possibly dying. It was full of a lot of action. Even Naruto part was nice. The only thing that was missing is a little of Team Gai.

9.5 of 10

PREDICTION
I'm predicting that Kakashi avoid the nail some way, this might be a fanboy prediction. I think he either used his MS or genjutsu. Kakashi isn't going down this way. I think he got Pein in some way. Also i think will we see Tsunade next chapter. We might also get to see Team Gai in action, i don't think Kishi forget they exist even though it seem like he did.

KAKASHI AIN'T GOING DOWN LIKE THIS, BELIEVE ME.(but limit the carping if i'm wrong.lol.)

Feel free to leave commits. Remember this is only my second Review, so take it easy on me.:D

Shaunlim

October 30, 2008, 11:17 PM

KnuckleheadedNinja

October 30, 2008, 11:40 PM

Nice review knuckle. While I agree with you that Kakashi won't die, I personally don't see Kakashi coming out unscratched here. And I really don't think it is genjutsu as it would be rather lame then. All the build up and then it ends with a genjutsu sounds kinda wrong for me. It's like a repeat of Itachi vs Sasuke and I really wasn't too fond of that fight. And like you said, we might see Team Gai. I wouldn't be surprise with Gai's dynamic entry and mach 8 towards that nail. Catching it before it actually hurt Kakashi(lol).

Thanks.
I get what you mean but the thing is i don't see Kakashi getting scratch without causing him death or causing him to lose the Sharingan. And i don't see him dying or losing the sharingan. I don't see him getting hit in the other eye either because that serve no purpose. What will be the point of kishi taking out Kakashi other eye. But i hope to see Team Gai next week, i am really getting piss that will haven't see them yet.

Shaunlim

October 30, 2008, 11:51 PM

Thanks.
I get what you mean but the thing is i don't see Kakashi getting scratch without causing him death or causing him to lose the Sharingan. And i don't see him dying or losing the sharingan. I don't see him getting hit in the other eye either because that serve no purpose. What will be the point of kishi taking out Kakashi other eye. But i hope to see Team Gai next week, i am really getting piss that will haven't see them yet.

Well it is possible that it would actually pierce/scratch Kakashi's face. Even unable to move or escape, I'm pretty sure Kakashi can avoid death by moving his head a little.

Jaime F.

October 30, 2008, 11:54 PM

Nice review Knuckleheadedninja, I like almost all of it. One thing I agree with you on, is that it did seem ridiculous, that Demon Realm Pain was able to get inbetweem Kakashi, and Pain's God Realm body. Kakashi is so close to hitting him, it just doesn't seem possible for anything to get inbetween them. Like you said the gap between Kakashi's hand/Raikiri, and Pain was probably 1ft., or maybe even less than that. I guess this is why Kishimoto didn't bother to draw a panel that clearly showed how Demon Realm Pain's body got there so quickly. You're right Naruto may need his father's Hiraishin technique, to capitalize on the small window of time that God Realm Pain is vulnerable. However, I also think his clones, as well as having Fukasaku fused with him, will also help with this difficult task.
Well, as for the next part of your review, I really like what you said about Naruto's growth. I also like how you pointed out Naruto's concern for the village, and how he's not always just thinking about his old relationship with Sasuke. He's maturing, and getting stronger as he should be, because he needs to if he wants to be successful in avenging Jiraiya, and become Hokage in the future.
So anyways, for the most part I agree with all your thoughts concerning this chapter. The 1 thing I disagree with you on, is what reverse summoning actually is, and what it's capable of doing. From what I understand the technique is called reverse summoning, because it's the animal that summons the human instead of the other way around like it usually is. Normally the human/ninja who has signed the contract is the one who summons the animal, and when he does that it's just a normal summoning jutsu. If you recall, when Naruto was reversed summoned the first time, it was actually Gamakichi who had summoned him to the Toads mountain. Since it was the animal, in this case Gamakichi, that summoned the human, Naruto, this makes it a reverse summoning. So Jumpy, may he R.I.P., being killed does take away the possibility for Naruto be reversed summoned back to Konoha. Well, that's how I understand the concept of reverse summoning, I think I'm right about it, but If you could prove me wrong, you're definetly welcome to. If you happen to be right about reverse summoning, then I'll gladly admit that I was wrong.
So in conclusion, I think you're doing pretty good with these reviews. I had noticed that you made a couple grammar errors, but this isn't an English class, so I won't get on your case about it. You seem to be very aware of what is going on in the storyline, and that's very important if you're going to be typing these reviews more often. I definetly enjoyed reading your review, so keep up the good work. I'll for sure make an effort to read your reviews in the future, and I agree that Team Gai needs to show up soon. Gai, and Lee's quick Tai jutsu abilities could really help Konoha in it's fight against Pain, and Konan. I also just realized, that Neji's defensive techniques, would probably work really well against God Realm Pain's abilities. If Neji is quick enough, he should be able to deflect an incoming nail, like the one that's heading in Kakashi's direction. If I recall correctly, his defensive jutsu should be capable of deflecting something like that. My last thoughts are, if I were God Realm Pain, I would carry a lot of nails with me everytime I went into battle. Also, it would be interesting to see what kind of effect God Realm Pain's gravitational techniques would have on Gaara sand defense, and offense. Sorry for the random thoughts, it's getting late here, so my mind is wandering. I look forward to reading you response, as well as your next review.

Shaunlim

October 31, 2008, 12:09 AM

So anyways, for the most part I agree with all your thoughts concerning this chapter. The 1 thing I disagree with you on, is what reverse summoning actually is, and what it's capable of doing. From what I understand the technique is called reverse summoning, because it's the animal that summons the human instead of the other way around like it usually is. Normally the human/ninja who has signed the contract is the one who summons the animal, and when he does that it's just a normal summoning jutsu. If you recall, when Naruto was reversed summoned the first time, it was actually Gamakichi who had summoned him to the Toads mountain. Since it was the animal, in this case Gamakichi, that summoned the human, Naruto, this makes it a reverse summoning. So Jumpy, may he R.I.P., being killed does take away the possibility for Naruto be reversed summoned back to Konoha. Well, that's how I understand the concept of reverse summoning, I think I'm right about it, but If you could prove me wrong, you're definetly welcome to. If you happen to be right about reverse summoning, then I'll gladly admit that I was wrong.

Well there is the question about how Pa and co actually got to Konoha in the first place. It's possible that Pa summoned himself there somehow.

Hockeychaoz

October 31, 2008, 02:40 AM

I'm bothered by this fact:

We know Jiriyah was a Sannin, and he was amazing, and super strong, and a sage, but Pein said himself, if he had used 6 bodies from the start, he wouldn't have won. Meaning Jiriyah > All 6 Pein bodies

Konoha is getting destroyed the last few chapters. I mean, Jiriyah was great, but was he really so strong that all of Konoha can't fend off this attack and he could have beaten Pein alone? Where's this great Konoha strength?

Good thing Pein fought Jiriyah first and didn't invade Konoha before killing him. 6 bodies split up, Jiriyah would have picked them apart, one at a time.

KnuckleheadedNinja

October 31, 2008, 05:08 PM

@Jamie F.
Thanks.
I think Naruto can do reverse summoning back to Konoha. It will be like the inverse of him summoning the toad and the toad reverse summoning back to the mountain. Because Gamakichi summon him to the mountain(like Naruto summoning Gamakichi to Konoha) Naruto should be able to reverse summoning/cancel summoning back to Konoha(like Gamakichi reverse summoning back to the mountain). Also Pa frog, Bunta, and the other frogs were able to get to Konoha to tell Tsunade about Jiraiya death without anyone summoning them to Konoha.
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I'm bothered by this fact:

We know Jiriyah was a Sannin, and he was amazing, and super strong, and a sage, but Pein said himself, if he had used 6 bodies from the start, he wouldn't have won. Meaning Jiriyah > All 6 Pein bodies

Konoha is getting destroyed the last few chapters. I mean, Jiriyah was great, but was he really so strong that all of Konoha can't fend off this attack and he could have beaten Pein alone? Where's this great Konoha strength?

Good thing Pein fought Jiriyah first and didn't invade Konoha before killing him. 6 bodies split up, Jiriyah would have picked them apart, one at a time.

I'm bother by that too, right now kishi is making it look like Jiraiya is stronger the whole Konoha. Konoha which is suppose to be the strongest village in Narutoverse. Also what is the point of Pein connecting all of the bijuu if he can just walk over the strongest village with little effort.
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Well it is possible that it would actually pierce/scratch Kakashi's face. Even unable to move or escape, I'm pretty sure Kakashi can avoid death by moving his head a little.

yeah, kakashi should be able to avoid getting hit in a vital point by moving his head since he know the shit is coming and can see it in like a slow mo with his sharingan. But that is too simply of a way, so i doubt that was what happened.

Karma

November 01, 2008, 01:12 PM

KnuckleheadedNinja

November 01, 2008, 02:51 PM

Great review... I actually like what u said.... But i think its a genjutsu, or Pain get hit or Gai take the hit for Kakashi... But i know for sure Kakashi wasn't hit..

But how Kakashi can't move and he's a earth user as well? doesn't make much sense.. He should be able to get out from that tight spot..

Thanks
Yeah, i will find it quite ridiculous if Kakashi was actually hit. There is like a million different way he could have avoid it. The Kakashi Kishi have portray to us since Part 1 will never get hit like that. Not when he know that shit was coming.

Jaime F.

November 02, 2008, 02:31 AM

Hello Knuckleheaded ninja, I just read your response, and I guess what you said about reverse summoning might be possible. You pose a good question about how the other toads travel to from Konoha, without Naruto summoning them himself. We used to think it was just Jiraiya who would summon the toads there, but now that Jiraiya is deceased, the question you ask is a very good one. Do the toads take the 30 day trip fron Myoukubu mountain, to Konoha, or do they have use some type of reverse summoning like technique. I guess we won't truly know, until Kishimoto reveals more information to us. This also could be something Kishimoto himself overlooked, and has no real answer for. As time goes on, the summoning technique seems like a jutsu that has a variety of things it can do. I'm sure we'll keep learning more about it, as the more of the story is revealed. We have reverse summoning now, and we also know that Hiraishin is also some form of a summoning jutsu. Well right now, the reverse summoning jutsu, is kind of a new concept to us Naruto fans, and this is because we hadn't seen a character perform it until chapter 409, page 4. Well anyways, I like what you're doing with your reviews so far, so keep it up. I'll definetly try to make an effort to read them for now on, especially since GoldKnight seems to be taking a break from typing Naruto reviews.

patedecarne

November 03, 2008, 10:07 AM

Great review knuckle, and I must say this chapterhas one of the most debatable issues ever seen: is Kakashi dead or not? I'll keep my POV, and I don't think Kakashi can avoid that nail: Kakashi is a good and perfect nin, but Pain is Akatsuki leader, and I'm sure Kakashi wouldn't stand a chance, since the beginning, but I wasn't expecting that nail either;

And add to this that I don't think that a non native sharingan user like Kakashi could use a genjutsu against Pain;

other than that, I pretty much agree with you on everything, and this week will be a long one,aff...

KnuckleheadedNinja

November 05, 2008, 09:38 PM

Thanks Pat.
I don't think Kakashi really got hit, for some reason i just can't see him getting hit like that. I think Kakashi probably use his MS avoid getting hit, that why he got blood dipping from his face.

But you are right this is going to be a long week, it only Monday. Man, i have never been this anxious for a chapter before.