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Forever_Melody
November 10, 2008, 10:45 PM
Alrighty the thread title more or less says it all.

In the Naruto series, may characters have been portrayed as to having lots of strength. Being able to lift large things, to hitting and destroying stuff, super strength has almost become a commodity among some characters.

So who do you think has the biggest and baddest punch? Who has the genuine and baddest super-strength in the Naruto series??

Our contestants:

- Tsunade:
The genuine user of "Herculean strength". Her medical prowess allows her to channel her chakra percisely into parts of her body to increase impact damage. As shown many times like here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/163/18/) where she can create craters or here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/170/15/) where she is seen lifting a huge object like it is nothing. :blink

- Sakura:
Apprentice to Tsunade herself, she has learned the Herculean technique of her mistress. She is shown to be able to create craters comparable to her sensei here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/246/10-11/) and can knock and destroy very large objects with ease as shown here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/263/13/) and here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/02/). Does her strength surpass her sensei though?? :o

- Jiroubou:
A favored of Orochimaru, his strength is quite formidable. He is shown to be able to lift large boulders as shown here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/188/07-08/) and was even able to lift a multi-sized Chouji here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/190/03/).

- Chouji:
His strength comes from the immense size his Baika jutsus grant him. As shown here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/422/16/), he is easily able to crush a body to bits and when using the houren pill, he is able to concentrate all his chakra into his strength and produce devastating effects as shown here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/190/19/).

- Juugo:
The originator of the Cursed seal, his strength is enhanced and powered by the changing form the cursed seal grants him(such as boosters and other physical body changes). As seen here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/351/04/), his brute strength is already formidable and when the CS2 is added, he is ale to produce devastating effects as seen here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/005/) and over here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/015/).

- Kakuzu:
While his super strength was not developed on much, we know he is capable of feats of super strength. As seen here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/314/04/) he punched through some large steel gates without much effort and here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/323/04/), we can see that just one of his punches creates destructive results.

- Gai & Lee:
Although their strength isn't necessarily mind-blowing, the amazing fact is that their brute strength is not born from chakra, but pure body muscle. As seen here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/117/08/), he si able to punch through walls with sheer body conditioning and muscle power. When we add the Kaimon gates as well, both Gai and Lee's strength increase exponentially thanks to the humongous muscular explosion as seen here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/85/13/) where one simple leg propulsion completed cratered an arena.

- Kyuubi-fied Naruto:
The final contender sees the source of his super-strength through the demonic properties of the demonic Kyuubi! Thanks to the enhancement of Kyuubi's chakra, Naruto's speed and brute strength reaches new levels! As can be seen in this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/291/06/) page, he is able to knock Orochimaru leagues away with one arm swipe and as seen on this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/292/18/) page, his fury is quite devastating, capable of riping off limbs without much trouble.

- Hermit Mode Jiraiya:
Through the power of the Sages, Jiraiya is able to amass Sage chakra, which increases his strength tenfold. As can be seen on this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/375/14/), he has the strength to propel a large animal summon like it weighs nothing!

So yeah, the manga gives thorough examples of each of these people's strength, but who do YOU think backs the hard punch, the biggest hit, the strongest knocking? lol :p

Post your opinions and your reasoning behind them!

Oh and if I forgot to mention someone of note, please feel free to tell me ^_^

Stop
November 10, 2008, 11:20 PM
It has to go to Guy and Lee for the reasons you said it's just mind blowing that all that power they showed us is just from muscle and not chakra it's just amazing. If low on chakra guess who can still punch through a wall. Once you add gates they are just on another level they become monsters

Brett Nado
November 10, 2008, 11:25 PM
Don't forget about Naruto's Hermit Mode, which surpasses Jiraiya. (He lifted that huge statue with ease)

morefire
November 10, 2008, 11:37 PM
Tsunade's one sided beatdown of Orochimaru says it all. Followed close by Gai& lee.

kkck
November 10, 2008, 11:38 PM
I think tsunade has the most bad ass punch. She has natural strenth and combines that with her chakra control to pack a punch, I dont think anyone else can match her naturaly.
Hermit mode jiraiya and naruto PROBABLY are stronger than tsunades chakra punch, but on the other hand it is not entirely fair to compare them. Kyubi naruto is most definitely phisicaly stronger than tsunade (since he creates shockwaves by waving his limbs) but it is also not fair to compare them.
You said it, lee's and gai's strenth comes from pure muscle, which is why I believe it is inferior to tsunades strenth which come from muscle and chakra. In that sense sakura probably is superior to at least lee.
This thread is way to hard to discuss, just writting about a couple of characters made me a little dizzy lol.

Dracul
November 11, 2008, 12:29 AM
sakura chan gets my vote because she hits just as hard as tsunade, but i would say that the occurance is more frequent, even if naruto ends up taking half of those blows ;)

crimson22
November 11, 2008, 06:37 AM
Which is much stronger? kyuubi naruto or sage naruto?

Forever_Melody
November 11, 2008, 08:58 AM
Well the reason I made this thread si because the answer is shining in bright lights lol :p

There are many factors to consider and it depends on which reader which factors are fair and which ones aren't. Perhaps chakra induced strength si simply unfair to some, while others believe it it fair to consider them all as long as we look at the end result.

Also take to note I did not include Sage Naruto because we have seen little of his strength prowess(he only lifted one statue), but I suppose I could change "Kyuubi-fied" Naruto to plain Naruto?

ninjabot
November 11, 2008, 05:18 PM
Gai and Lee's strength is the most impressive because it's un-enhanced. Pure physical training got them their strength. Though, as far as who has the most strength goes, I think I'm going with Tsunade.

TheChosenOne
November 11, 2008, 05:49 PM
What about Kisame, wasn't he stated to have super-human strength ? :confused

Shiro-kun
November 11, 2008, 06:02 PM
What about Kisame, wasn't he stated to have super-human strength ? :confused

Yeah during his fight with Kisame, Gai stated that he(Kisame) had super human strength and it was pretty proven when 30% Kisame attacked Gai:)

But anyhow i am conflicted who is the best hitter, it was either Gai or Tsuande at this point but there Tsuande successor (in terms of hits) Sakura came close as well...but i gave it to Gai (and Lee) due to reason that he trained specifically for that power anyways.

Forever_Melody
November 11, 2008, 06:08 PM
Ah shoo, I forgot Kisame >.< Yeah, he was able to overpower Gai, one who is said to have abnormal strength and that was only a 30% chakra clone.

His strength would probably fit in the Gai & Lee in the sense that it's probably pure muscle and not chakra induced as with other people as far as we know.

EvolutionIX
November 11, 2008, 09:41 PM
Im still going to go with Sage Naruto, that alone after all made him my favourite character. Mentioned somewhere sennin mode made jiraiya 10x stronger and pa frog said that naruto was able to control it far BETTER and quicker than Jiraiya. So i'm guessing 20x stronger :D

crimson22
November 12, 2008, 07:35 AM
Maybe Sage Naruto is stronger than kyuubi naruto..... Then again, we haven't seen their full potential....

Forever_Melody
November 12, 2008, 07:07 PM
Well, Sage Naruto has yet to really show what he can do, but I'm sure he's a heavy hitter considering how strong Jiraiya was in Sage Mode! ^_^

It's quite interesting how many of the above shinobis are "super strength" types, yet only few have actually been commented on said strength, i.e. Tsunade, Sakura and Kisame are the ones who are mostly praised for their strength. :s

Deviant
November 12, 2008, 08:32 PM
Naruto and Jiraiya, hands down. Naruto doesn't even need Sage mode, he's got Kyuubi hax.

Brett Nado
November 12, 2008, 09:06 PM
Is Naruto able to use kyuubi's Chakra while in Hermit mode?

kkck
November 12, 2008, 09:13 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/377/15/
This guy stopped jiraiya's hermit mode punch (a couple tons of force I guess) with just 1 hand, he probably is pretty strong too...
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I still think tsunade is the strongest one. Not only she packs wuite chakra punches but has natural super strenth. Statwise she has 5 in strenth and featwise, she managed to lift bunta's sword and pin down manda. Not only that but she picked up the sword, jumped 50 meters into the air and threw the sword like if it was nothing, That is even more impresive than naruto lifting a giant stone from IMO.

Forever_Melody
November 12, 2008, 09:26 PM
Tsunade never really struck me as someone who had lots of natural muscular strength. As a 50 year old woman, she must got o the gym a lot then! lol :p

But coupled with her chakra, yeah her strength is very impressive. I mean, it HAS been the main thing people comment her about aside from her healing abilities. Unlike the other characters, Tsunade's strength is emphasized by other characters.

Raizen
November 12, 2008, 10:22 PM
Tsunade, she has perfect sontrol of her chakra and it seems super strength runs in the family. Look at the 1st hokage. He has displayed superhuman strength too

Forever_Melody
November 13, 2008, 07:02 AM
When did Hashirama show a feat of super-strength? He was super strong, but not in the traditional "I lift weights" strength no? :blink

Raizen
November 14, 2008, 04:43 PM
When did Hashirama show a feat of super-strength? He was super strong, but not in the traditional "I lift weights" strength no? :blink
I thought he displayed super strength during the hokage fight. I remember he puch and the ground broke or something. I have to look at it again :p

Kusachu
November 16, 2008, 01:39 AM
I voted other because Naruto isn't on there. Seriously? How could ANYONE not think he isn't the heaviest hitter??

Oh wait, I see Kyuubi Naruto at the bottom...but I'm thinking that Naruto without Kyuubi is stronger and hits harder. JMO.

Forever_Melody
November 16, 2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah I wanted to change "Kyuubi Naruto" to just Naruto and include both Kyuubi mode and Sage Mode, but idk how to change poll options >.<

And why does normal Naruto his so hard? I don't remember him having such incredible strength? O_o

Kusachu
November 16, 2008, 02:06 PM
Yeah I wanted to change "Kyuubi Naruto" to just Naruto and include both Kyuubi mode and Sage Mode, but idk how to change poll options >.<

And why does normal Naruto his so hard? I don't remember him having such incredible strength? O_o


Yeah, we used to be able to modify poll options, but now we cant (I personally think it sucks but whatever), and I say that he hits the hardest because of the gigantic crater in the earth that happens when he uses his new jutsu.

kkck
November 16, 2008, 02:47 PM
I dont think kyubi naruto should be in the poll pretty much because he is haxed. It isnt even a humans power, it is the fox's power which has that power, so IMO it is not fair to compare kyubi naruto with other characters.

Forever_Melody
November 16, 2008, 02:51 PM
Well, strength is strength. Kyuubi's strength is still technically strength, even if it isn't of human origin. And it's not like it's overwhelmingly that much better than the other contenders >.> Kyuubi's strength/speed don't make Naruto invincible while in Kyuubi-fied mode so it's not really "hax" as I'd call it.

But umm ok, vote for "Kyuubi Naruto" if you mean Naruto >.>

kkck
November 16, 2008, 03:34 PM
^I still think that it is not really fair to compare them (even if in battle they have to deal with it...) but ok. I think the greatest strenth in the series seen so far belongs to hachibi in full transformation.
Then if we get to humans I guess it would go to tsunade and then jiraiya with hermit mode.

Raizen
November 17, 2008, 06:36 PM
^I still think that it is not really fair to compare them (even if in battle they have to deal with it...) but ok. I think the greatest strenth in the series seen so far belongs to hachibi in full transformation.
Then if we get to humans I guess it would go to tsunade and then jiraiya with hermit mode.
IMO the blast from the 4TK was stronger than the one 8-tails displayed, maybe b/c it took longer.

Also, when u mean big hitter, u mean a punch right?? If so tsunade hands down

Forever_Melody
November 25, 2008, 05:02 AM
Well I meant who's super strength is the most super if you wanna put it that way lol :p

Because before recently, Tsunade was the only one who was qualified as to have superhuman strength, but in recent chapters, many characters have been shown to possess some level of super strength, whether it is due to some other technique than hers or some other factors.

The question is which one is really the super strength lol :p

Jammin
December 04, 2008, 10:06 PM
Tsunade...

If the student can send a giant centipede thing flying through the air like a paper airplane, what can the master do?:jawdrop

She was the cause of one of Jiraiya's near death experiences and put a sword the size of sky scraper through the lips of poor Manda. She's a bruiser no doubt about it. While there are a lot of super strong people in the ninja world, that just makes her reputation for godly strength all the more impressive.

Forever_Melody
December 04, 2008, 10:17 PM
But nowhere was it stated Sakura's super strength was a toned-down version of Tsunade's was it? :blink We're just assuming it is weaker, but Sakura, like Tsunade was said to have perfect chakra control so both their punches should have the same amount of impact, the only difference is how much chakra they pump into ther fist at the moment of impact.

If anything, I remember Chiyo noting that Sakura should have inherited all of Tsunade's super strength power since she was her student.

Askia32
December 04, 2008, 10:33 PM
But nowhere was it stated Sakura's super strength was a toned-down version of Tsunade's was it? :blink We're just assuming it is weaker, but Sakura, like Tsunade was said to have perfect chakra control so both their punches should have the same amount of impact, the only difference is how much chakra they pump into ther fist at the moment of impact.

If anything, I remember Chiyo noting that Sakura should have inherited all of Tsunade's super strength power since she was her student.

It doesn't have to be stated. All you need to do is look at Sakura's punches that she has done compared to what have you have seen Tsunade do. Tsunade picked up a sword at least 20times bigger than herself, and thrust into Manda. Thats just nuts.

Sakura is coo right now but I don't think she has nearly as much chakra as Tsunade does. And I do think the more chakra you put into the attack, the stronger it is.


As for the hardest hitter, its gotta be Tsunade. But then again, Jiraiya did kick someone blind. That's pretty intense.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/170/18/

Jammin
December 04, 2008, 10:38 PM
I don't know, you might be right about the punch but Tsunade can clearly do more than just give a solid hook. Do you remember the size of the katana she put through Manda's jaw? She pulled it out of the ground, jumped with it(over Gamabunta and Manda's heads), then drove it down to spear Manda.:eek:

We've seen some impressive displays of strength over the course of the manga but that was on a whole different level. That's the kind of stuff that would give Hercules a hernia.:p

Forever_Melody
December 04, 2008, 10:42 PM
Well yeah, now that I think of it, Tsunade is perhaps the only person who we've actually seen lift something with her super strength. The other examples of strength in the manga are all impact type stuff(i.e. making a crater from something) so I guess Tsunade does win in that department.

Raizen
December 04, 2008, 10:56 PM
Tsunade is definitely the top dog. Sakura is good but she still has to train to reach that level

kkck
December 04, 2008, 11:20 PM
I think that tsunade's strenth comes not only from her chakra control but also natural super strenth. If you look at her stats she has a 5 at strenth, meaning that even without her chakra control thing she can pack a decent punch.

nat
February 15, 2009, 03:14 PM
QB Naruto....the guy is a freaking beast....Literally.
No fancy schmancy Sage mode, just plain old feral Kyuubi...Grrrr....

Baron Hugenstein
February 15, 2009, 03:27 PM
Nah, Drunk lee with open Gates, that's the biggest and powerfulest hitter:p

roma
February 16, 2009, 10:19 AM
tsunade is on top of my list for the biggest hitter. naruto in sage mode can surpass tsunade but without it, it's still tsunade.

Forever_Melody
February 16, 2009, 06:38 PM
Sage Naruto is pretty strong from what little we've seen. I mean, his throwing of Pain's summon can be compared to Tsunade's throwing of Bunta's knife no?

kkck
February 16, 2009, 09:53 PM
Sage Naruto is pretty strong from what little we've seen. I mean, his throwing of Pain's summon can be compared to Tsunade's throwing of Bunta's knife no?

It is hard though, although they are at the very least on the same category of strenth. Naruto took a hundred ton (wild guess) summon and threw it away while tsunade picked up a truck size knive (although since it is not hollow as a car and is completely made of metal it probably weights more than a truck) jumped the equivalent of more than a few stories and threw the knife with enough force behind it to be able to pin manda down.

Jammin
February 17, 2009, 10:41 AM
They are both definitely bruisers.:p

Though i think the knife is more impressive. Naruto just did a basic judo throw on that demon rhino, impressive as hell granted, but Tsunade pulled the knife out of the ground, jumped into the air over the Gamabunta's head, then swung in down on target skewering Manda's jaw.

Then again Naruto didn't even look winded throwing that Rhino. Which begs the question, what kind of feat of strength would make him look winded?:blink

Who else wants to see these two arm wrestle?:XD

Raizen
February 17, 2009, 06:45 PM
Tsunade is grandma knockers. Don't underestimate her

wildG
February 18, 2009, 05:30 AM
tsunade is seriously underestiminated xD tho she shouldn't shes mega strong

Forever_Melody
February 18, 2009, 07:16 AM
Tsunade's winning the poll no? Pretty sure most agree that she's the strongest hitter so far from what it seems lol :p

Delbi
February 22, 2009, 03:36 AM
Given how SM Naruto "threw" a giant summon high and far away, I think his punch might be able to best what Tsuande can do.

Raizen
February 23, 2009, 02:58 PM
SM naruto is a monster, but tsunade will always be my pick.
A grandma with the punch of an atomic bomb LOL

TheChosenOne
February 23, 2009, 04:31 PM
Given how SM Naruto "threw" a giant summon high and far away, I think his punch might be able to best what Tsuande can do.

Well we saw what Sakura can do when she punched that centipede, so it's likely Tsunade could do the same but at a higher level. :)

◆ T.D.A ◆
February 23, 2009, 04:33 PM
I'd probably say Sage Naruto if not then Tsunade.

Forever_Melody
February 23, 2009, 04:48 PM
When was it ever stated Tsunade's strength was superior to Sakura's? I only remember Chiyo commenting that Sakura inherited Tsunade's legendary strength. If anything, that line would imply that their strenght is on par.

I mean, if my memory serves me well, Tsunade(and Sakura's) strength is based on precise chakra control into the fist(or anywhere else) at the moment of impact. Sakura's chakra control is said to be perfect so she should have no trouble there. The only other possible limitation she'd have from Tsunade would be the pure amount of chakra she can concentrate into a punch, but I don't remember the manga ever making this distinction >.>

If it was indeed stated that Sakura has not yet achieved Tsunade's strength, a link ot the exact chapter would be appreciated :D

TheChosenOne
February 23, 2009, 05:24 PM
When was it ever stated Tsunade's strength was superior to Sakura's? I only remember Chiyo commenting that Sakura inherited Tsunade's legendary strength. If anything, that line would imply that their strenght is on par.

I don't think there was ever a direct statement that states Tsunade > Sakura. I'm just assuming it to be reckoning Tsunade has had greater amount of time to master (how much chakra is released and such), and thus should be better. :)


The only other possible limitation she'd have from Tsunade would be the pure amount of chakra she can concentrate into a punch, but I don't remember the manga ever making this distinction >.>I'm assuming that there will be a distinction due to the databook stats, Tsunade has a greater amount of chakra/stamina than Sakura, which could mean that her punch has greater effect. :)

Forever_Melody
February 23, 2009, 07:44 PM
It's a logical assumption, that much is certain, but I just don't recall it ever being said that Sakura's super strength was that much sub par when compared to Tsunade's. There is a distinct possibility that it is lesser though, but who knows. Those damn kids form this generation are going left and right doing stuff their masters couldn't at the same age >_>

kkck
February 23, 2009, 07:54 PM
It's a logical assumption, that much is certain, but I just don't recall it ever being said that Sakura's super strength was that much sub par when compared to Tsunade's. There is a distinct possibility that it is lesser though, but who knows. Those damn kids form this generation are going left and right doing stuff their masters couldn't at the same age >_>

Well, according to the databook, tsunade has greater natural strenth(also proved when she lifted buntas sword and jump a few stories into the air with no problem) and stamina (meaning more chakra). At this point it is onlu logical that tsunade is greatly superior to sakura in the punching department if she has more of all the elements which make up a super punch.

TheChosenOne
February 23, 2009, 08:02 PM
It's a logical assumption, that much is certain, but I just don't recall it ever being said that Sakura's super strength was that much sub par when compared to Tsunade's. There is a distinct possibility that it is lesser though, but who knows.

The only time I recall anything stated about Sakura's strength was during the second bell test (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/246/12/) and against Sasori (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/265/07/) (both of them doesn't state her strength being lower). DB stats show Tsunade having a higher ranking of power and chakra/stamina than Sakura, thus it's a rational assumption to say that Tsunade could use her super strength at a higher level, no matter how minimal the level, there should be a distinction between the two, at least according to the DB. :)

Forever_Melody
February 23, 2009, 08:20 PM
Well I haven't seen the 2nd databook so I didn't know that, but I could've extrapolated that I guess :tem

Well, it's a tough call. Tsunade has the original super strength of the series. She's the one who's strength was the most commented on in its time.

TheChosenOne
February 23, 2009, 08:29 PM
Well I haven't seen the 2nd databook so I didn't know that, but I could've extrapolated that I guess :tem

Their stats are shown in the 3rd DB. Tsunade (Ref 1 (http://static.mangahelpers.com/raws/databook3/japflap/164-165%20-%20Hokage%20%28Godaime%29%20-%20Tsunade.jpg) - 2 (http://leafninja.com/biographies-T.php#Tsunade)) || Sakura (Ref 1 (http://static.mangahelpers.com/raws/databook3/japflap/136-137%20-%20Haruno%20Sakura.jpg) -2 (http://leafninja.com/biographies-H.php#Sakura)). :)

[Power/Strength is the bottom center, chakra is the Middle left]

Forever_Melody
February 23, 2009, 09:03 PM
Ah ok, well I guess with time and practice Sakura might attain that level. Her chakra control is already very minute and precise so she should be able to master it within a certain laps of time.

Raizen
February 24, 2009, 04:34 PM
I think their punches depends on the amount of chakra they put in. So tsunade having more chakra means she can produce much more monstrous punches