Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[coinanmat]

Well if Yu Yu Hakasho will be finished early next year then we could see one of those new series taking its place in the English Jump magazine.

[Negative Syndicate]

So, is a person who uploads the bottom 5 called ◆EizHb38XPU? If it is right, then he/she already upload the bottom 5 issue 36, and it looks like it is true because people in 2ch saying it is true. So, if others want to know, just let me know. Also, I give you two information, even spoiler is true or not, Akaboshi rises one spot again and Mago is getting a drama cd.

[kewl0210]

Yeah, that person's listen on the top couple posts as a Shou Neta person.
小ネタ
・36ドベ５　とら、黒子、赤星、ぬらり、めだか
36
Medaka
Nurari
Akaboshi
Kuroko
ToRa

・37･8巻頭ＯＰ　Ｃ金未来Ｃ31P黒子、ぬらり
37-38[It's a double issue thing]
Opening Color OP
Color Golden Future Cup, C31 Pages Kuroko, Nurarihyon
・ぬらりドラマCD化
Nurarihyon Drama CD Version


Commenting... The bottom five makes sense. Medaka I guess isn't going to get anywhere high. Though maybe it'll survive. And the fact that they're pressing for bonus pages and color pages with Kuroko means they want it to survive, maybe?
And yeah, Drama CD for Nurarihyon no Mago, that's good. People often say it "leads to an anime later". Perhaps the same as Sket Dance, it'll end up there after 120~ chapters.

[Kaiten]

Mago drama CD makes up for dropping back to the bottom five. I guess Mago has an anime coming sometime between October and April!

[Negative Syndicate]

Thanks for the info, I thought it was a real. It looks like Akaboshi might not going to get axe because it is rising one by one. Medaka is in same spot as last week, but it didn't drop, so I think Medaka is still safe.

Kuroko is getting 31 pages and colour. Is Mago also getting a 31 pages, too, or just colour? Even it is not, I'm happy that Mago finally getting another colour, also happy about drama cd. Mago is getting one step closer to becoming animation.

[Rejuvenation]

Ugh looks like they are going to try to inject some life into Kuroko. It is even below Akaboshi this time. Good lord let it just die like the sub-par series it is already. -__-

Been a few weeks since Mago was in the bottom 5 but I'm curious about which chapter it was that broke its streak and what it focused on. Nice to see it with a Drama CD coming though. It hasn't had color in forever either.

First time in a while we haven't seen Gintama or Bakuman in the basement.

And Medaka once again barely makes it in the bottom. Just to rise 1 or 2 spots is all I ask of it so death isn't obvious like with Akaboshi. Really do hope it can survive long enough to see if it can do better with Tank sales. >.>

[M-Hario]

Mago CD Drama... it couldn't be better.

[Drmke]

C'mon Akaboshi, just another spot or two and you might not die so young!!

Kuroko just needs to be let go though. I mean giving color pages to a series the week after it hits bottom is retarded.

But the Mago color/extra pages thing is freaking sweet.

[Negative Syndicate]

Kuroko just dropped to bottom 5 because the ranking is based on the chapter, conclusion of Seihou arc. and beginning of Shuutoku arc. So Kuroko might increase again.

Also, I want to know that Kutoko is getting 31 pages, but not colour page, so is Kuroko getting ranked or unranked?

I'm happy to see Akaboshi is rising. This series is getting too good to be cancelled.

[Drmke]

Kuroko just dropped to bottom 5 because the ranking is based on the chapter, conclusion of Seihou arc. and beginning of Shuutoku arc. So Kuroko might increase again.

Also, I want to know that Kutoko is getting 31 pages, but not colour page, so is Kuroko getting ranked or unranked?

I'm happy to see Akaboshi is rising. This series is getting too good to be cancelled.

Well the series has been in the bottom five for a long time now. IT only moved out for what, one week last week i think?

Jump is doing what they did with Bokke-san. Try to pimp a dying series. It may still make it, but things are looking bleak for it.

[Kaiten]

ROFLMAO!!!!! People still think Akaboshi has a prayer. It's been in every bottom five since it debuted. Does it matter weather it's first from bottom, second, or fourth. It's the least popular manga in the magazine, that won't change.

Kuroko seems to be in trouble but nothing dire. It could survive the next cuts.

[Rejuvenation]

C'mon Akaboshi, just another spot or two and you might not die so young!!

Kuroko just needs to be let go though. I mean giving color pages to a series the week after it hits bottom is retarded.

But the Mago color/extra pages thing is freaking sweet.

Well though it got color pages I don't think it necessarily means it will live beyond the next cuts.

Bokke-san(Which I actually liked ;__; ) got color for chapter 12 or 13 but that didn't stop them from killing it at chapter 18 this year. Although Kuroko has the advantage of being the only sports series in the magazine, that should only go so far when Jump readers don't seem to like sports atm.

Plus Kuroko still has a disproportionate amount of colors compared to everything else outside of Bleach and Beelzebub. This will be number 8 for this calendar year. Bleach has 8 and Beelzebub has 7.

[Drmke]

ROFLMAO!!!!! People still think Akaboshi has a prayer. It's been in every bottom five since it debuted. Does it matter weather it's first from bottom, second, or fourth. It's the least popular manga in the magazine, that won't change.

There's nothing wrong with pointless hope. I know the series has pretty much no chance of survival, but its nice to see it putting up a fight.

[Kaiten]

There's nothing wrong with pointless hope backed by realistic expectations.

[Drmke]

There's nothing wrong with pointless hope backed by realistic expectations.

I think my expectations are pretty realistic. I just want it to end without bottoming out week after week. That's not too much to ask.

[Mr. Prince]

What's this shit about Kuroko getting yet another CP? JUMP should just cut that crappy series...
Sad to see Mago falling back after it's great rise. Apart from that, it's what I'd call a very pleasing and enjoyable round of ドベ５!

[Digital_Eon]

The only way Kuroko won't end with the next round of cuts is if something else gets cut instead - and it's possible; Medaka isn't doing as well as it could/should, even if it isn't bottoming out like Akaboshi. I can't see Jump cutting any of its other series, though. Maybe the next round of new series will have a sports series, and...

[Kaiten]

I can see Medaka ending before Kuroko, painful as that is to say.

[Rejuvenation]

^What gets me is the series is most likely going to die anyway. In this cut or the next with the way it is ranking. I'd rather not cut a series with potential compared to a series with underwhelming games and extremely shallow characters for the most part.


What's this shit about Kuroko getting yet another CP? JUMP should just cut that crappy series...
Sad to see Mago after it's great rise falling back. Apart from that, it's what I'd call a very pleasing and enjoyable round of ドベ５!

Jump wasting time on an extremely crappy series in a desperate attempt to keep sports in their line-up. That is the only thing I can think of. -____-

Well with Mago's recent stint of popularity and the incoming drama CD I'm no longer worried about it at all.

Kuroko, however, needs to freaking die.

[kewl0210]

No one's even translated or scanlated he last 4-5 Kuroko chapters... I liked it but it does kinda not seem like something that could ever be interesting in the long run. There are like 3 interesting characters, most of the rest look like each other and you can't remember who's who, and though it does give a kinda science logic to the game it doesn't make up for other things which kinda makes it tedious, like nothing's happening.

[Negative Syndicate]

No one's even translated or scanlated he last 4-5 Kuroko chapters... I liked it but it does kinda not seem like something that could ever be interesting in the long run. There are like 3 interesting characters, most of the rest look like each other and you can't remember who's who, and though it does give a kinda science logic to the game it doesn't make up for other things which kinda makes it tedious, like nothing's happening.

Yeah, it looks like English translation is about 4 chapters back. Kuroko is actually got better in Shuutoku arc. But, the pace is too fast, so if Kuroko continues, it is not even going to reach the 20 volumes.

Also, I want to know that is people's judgement on Kuroko is based on Shuutoku arc, or does people make jundgement based on Seihou arc, which is not really good and too short.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Mago getting color and drama CD is just amazing. I somehow suspected that the editor put Mago into the bottom so they can give Gintama and Bakuman together in the upper half. Does it say when the CD is going to be released?
Considering it's going to get a drama CD, I think it's time we start guessing who will be voicing who.

[Negative Syndicate]

Is there any plan for updating a scanlation for Golden Future Cup one shots? I really want to see them.

[fxu]

What's a drama cd?

Anime, music, live-action...?

[Kaiten]

Anime without the animation, basically. The seiyu act out the parts just like they would for an episode. It's all dialog on audio CD.

[StrangerAtaru]

Well at least Mago has potential probably for April '10, about the same right now as Psyren but it all depends on how either go. (the only thing that seems certain is Jump is grooming Toriko to be the "next big thing")

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Kuroko getting color and 31 pages makes up for it dropping back to the bottom five this week. Hopefully Jump can put some more life into it. I'd hate to lose such a great series so soon.

[coinanmat]

Well at least Mago has potential probably for April '10, about the same right now as Psyren but it all depends on how either go. (the only thing that seems certain is Jump is grooming Toriko to be the "next big thing")
Yes and not to mention the English version of Jump just picked the series up. To be honest, Toriko is not one of my personal favorites in the magazine.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Well unless we hear anything about Psyren getting a drama CD or anything, I think Mago and Toriko will be the one getting an anime first especially with the two being bigger seller than Psyren. Although I think we're forgetting that Bakuman is already the big thing, not to mention it will be the easiest to adapt to drama, movie or anime.
Any news on who will be the seiyuu of Rikuo?

[Kaiten]

>.< Sket Dance dance will get an anime first >.<

Psyren will get one in April, there's no doubt. It's drama CD will come out after Mago, but both will probably debut in April 2010. Toriko and Bakuman won't be until October 2010. Any earlier and they'd have to start filler to soon.

[Crude]

Great to see a Mago Drama CD! And why isn't there a Psyren one yet! By the way, has the Sket Dance Drama CD been released yet?

[Koshi_Inaba]

How can i forget about Sket? The drama CD is being released on October right?
For Bakuman, considering the previous success with Death Note movies, I got the feeling it will have a movie or drama before anime.

[Negative Syndicate]

I, personally, think Bakuman is more fit with drama than a film or an animation.

[Koshi_Inaba]

I, personally, think Bakuman is more fit with drama than a film or an animation.

couldn't agree more. My friend who is a big fan, even hope that Tomohisa Yamashita and Matsumoto Jun will play the role of Shujin and Saiko respectively. BTW muwlove, does it say when the drama CD for Mago will be released?

[Negative Syndicate]

couldn't agree more. My friend who is a big fan, even hope that Tomohisa Yamashita and Matsumoto Jun will play the role of Shujin and Saiko respectively. BTW muwlove, does it say when the drama CD for Mago will be released?

I think we still have to wait until Issue 37-38 for further information on release of Mago's drama CD.

[coinanmat]

Im just hoping Issue 36 dosent have a Naruto cover lol. I understand its Naruto's 10 annaversary of Serialization in WSJ but I think they're going a bit overboard.

[Koshi_Inaba]

no, the one with naruto cover is the previous issue, issue 35 not 36.

[Drmke]

Kochikame is supposed to have the cover this week if I remember right.

[StrangerAtaru]

KochiKame's getting ready/has the drama so yeah, it's got the next one...and regardless of the front CP, we're probably getting an "all series" cover for the double-issue for Bon. As for Naruto...well, personally I say Kishi holds off anything and everything color until issue 43, then just go all out for the actual "10th anniversary issue".

BTW: read somewhere there is a "10 years 100 secrets" things for Naruto coming out I think in August...could that be their version of OP's "10th Treasure"?

[Drmke]

BTW: read somewhere there is a "10 years 100 secrets" things for Naruto coming out I think in August...could that be their version of OP's "10th Treasure"?

What was the OP "10th Treasure"? Did it reveal cool info or something like that?

[coinanmat]

no, the one with naruto cover is the previous issue, issue 35 not 36.
I know that, what i said was I hope issue 36 dosen't have a Naruto cover

[Mr. Prince]

What was the OP "10th Treasure"? Did it reveal cool info or something like that?
Nah, it was more like a really fancy and playful way to celebrate One Piece's anniversary with lots of funny games, specials, some handicraft works as well as loads of loads of celebs and other mangaka congratulating. (A lot of famous JUMP mangaka made some One Piece artworks in order to congratulate)

[Koshi_Inaba]

I know that, what i said was I hope issue 36 dosen't have a Naruto cover

Sorry, I think I should have said more clearly. Naruto has the cover for 35, Kochikame for 36.I already saw the preview for issue 36 in SJ website and it said Kochikame got first pages in color. Meaning it got the cover

[coinanmat]

^Oh goody, I just about laughed my a** off the last time Shonen Jump did a Kochikame cover.

[StrangerAtaru]

OK, I guess the main reason why I want to know a bit more about the "10th anniversary" book for Naruto is one reason: payback. After seeing Kishi's pic of Luffy back in "10th Treasures" (which actually wasn't bad), I've been waiting for a potential pic of something Naruto-related by Oda...and hopefully we get those in this book. (though for Kubo...I say he does Tsunade cause I don't want to see "Ichigo in a ninja outfit" if this is done)

[sir_arles]

WSJ nº 35 cover HQ:
http://img177.imagevenue.com/loc152/th_30792_35_122_152lo.jpg (http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=30792_35_122_152lo.jpg)

[Digital_Eon]

couldn't agree more. My friend who is a big fan, even hope that Tomohisa Yamashita and Matsumoto Jun will play the role of Shujin and Saiko respectively.

Nooooo way would that happen, not unless the setting and therefore character ages was changed (which is possible - it was done for Zettai Kareshi - but wouldn't part of Bakuman's charm be the school kid thing?). They're not going to play kids, at any rate, not at their ages.

If only other artists would do those art-tribute things to Naruto... Hoshino. Please. PLEASE don't be too sick.

[Negative Syndicate]

If Akaboshi got axed, is there any chance that Akaboshi going to re-serialized again, like Rising Impact, The Outer Zone, and BØY?

[Kaiten]

Further discussion of the Naruto 10 Years 100 Secrets have been moved here. (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51708)

[Koshi_Inaba]

Looks like the rumor about Mago getting canceled is officially a fake. Not to mention it said that the double issue would be 36-37, it turned out the double issue would be 37-38. So we can assume that the upper half of the rumor is true, but the lower half is fake.

[Estranho]

If Akaboshi got axed, is there any chance that Akaboshi going to re-serialized again, like Rising Impact, The Outer Zone, and BØY?
Well, it's not impossible, but I know people who waits Double Arts re-serialization until today, if you know what I mean...

[Kaiten]

Why was a One Piece rumor posted here and not in the One Piece section? Please do not respond to them in this thread. Feel free to start a thread in the One Piece section to discuss any rumors about One Piece. BTW: A source is always nice.

[Negative Syndicate]

Does anyone knows the reason for re-serialization for Rising Impact, The Outer Zone, and BØY?

[fxu]

Why was a One Piece rumor posted here and not in the One Piece section? Please do not respond to them in this thread. Feel free to continue discussion in the One Piece forum.

Does anybody have the specific post where this is mentioned?

I looked over in the Op section and didn't find it.

That's because it's crack posted to the wrong board. Pretend you never saw or heard anything about it ;)
Spoilsport :notrust It was highly entertaining ;____;

[youko kurama]

Well, it's not impossible, but I know people who waits Double Arts re-serialization until today, if you know what I mean...

AMEN!




There is any info about this?

[Koshi_Inaba]

AMEN!




There is any info about this?

No, i don't know if it ever will. Double Arts while popular in the internet, it's not that popular in Japan, at least that's what I know.
And speaking of Akaboshi, trust me it's popularity is even less than Double Arts which manage to rank high first but fails after that. If Double Arts which is more popular than Akaboshi still doesn't get re-serialize, it's almost impossible that Akaboshi will ever get that.

[Negative Syndicate]

Does Rising Impact, The Outer Zone, and BØY are popular before they are axed in first time?

And does anyone knows the ranking for Rising Impact, The Outer Zone, and BØY before they got axed?

Also, does anyone knows the reason of re-serialization for Rising Impact, The Outer Zone, and BØY?

[Koshi_Inaba]

I don't know about ranking, but BØY vol.4 did sold 800,000 copies.

[Kaiten]

Was the original BØY even canceled or was volume 1 just a prologue volume? I'm guessing it was a bit like Dogs, the title of the manga changed after volume 1 to designate the beginning of the actual plot.

And why even discuss re - serialization? When was the last time that happened?

[Koshi_Inaba]

A long time ago apparently. Since 2000, no manga ini Jump has ever been re-serialized. Can people be a bit realistic about their expectation? I like Akaboshi, but it's not like it's groundbreaking or expand Jump's fanbase. It's not the only good series out there, there's not one fucking reason for Jump to protect it.

[andysislands]

Shaman King was the closest to being re-serialized. Takei had hinted in France that SK could be coming back with mention at the time of Jump SQ. My guess was that it was saved as a "last resort" if JumpSQ didn't sell as well as they hoped, and we know how that turned out.

Of course, in the end it got it's own kanzenban editions, with basically 2 full volumes of new chapters, and then another (unannouced until the end) fanbook on top of that. Then on top of all of that, a sequel appears likely.

Maybe it's just Hiroyuki Takei, but I think Shueisha is more likely to try new things. Such as giving more flexablilty with the volume releases. The Shaman King: Kang Zeng Bang are much nicer, but much higher price point. In the long run, it makes them more money, even if they sell less books.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Shaman king is a high selling series with a circulation of about 22 million, so I'm not surprised. And yeah, I agree with Kang Zeng Bang being a bigger money maker even if it sold less.
If a high selling series got cancel, there's a big chance for re-serialization. But Akaboshi doesn't even have one volume yet and it's already not popular. Don't expect any kindness from Jump.

[Dofla]

#36 (03/08) :
Kochi (Cover & Color Page)
Naruto
One Piece
Reborn
Toriko
Inumaru (Color Page)
Kagijin
Kei Inayoshii & Kobayashi Tsutomu / Crown! (Color Page)
Ani Dokii
Bleach
Sket Dance (Color Page)
Waji Mania
Baku-man
Gintama
Psyren
Belzeebub
Medaka Box
Nurarihyon no Mago
Akaboshi
Kuroko no Basket
ToLove
Jaguar

[Koshi_Inaba]

Wow, most of the ranked series are in the lower half

[Maxy Barnard]

1 Naruto
2 One Piece
3 Reborn
4 Toriko
5 Bleach
6 Baku-man
7 Gintama
8 Psyren
9 Belzeebub
10 Medaka Box
11 Nurarihyon no Mago
12 Akaboshi
13 Kuroko no Basket
14 ToLove

huh.... somethings weird

[StrangerAtaru]

First of all: Naruto that week was essentially the epilogue of the whole arc so I sort of figured that is why it beat OP that week.

Second...aside Toriko and Bakuman, it's a very, very strange list this time around with some shuffling in the bottom half and several unconventionals (KochiKame, Sket, Inumaru) out of the running. Not bad or good, just unconventional.

[Rejuvenation]

Naruto beat One Piece this time around. And Bleach seems to be rounding out the top 5 again.

Nice to see Toriko back in the top 5. Reborn appears to be recovering from the borderline snorefest of the Melone Base attack and the initial Varia chapters.

Both Bakuman and Gintama break their trend from the past couple of weeks and land in the middle of the mag.

Psyren's ranking isn't bad but Beelzebub is a bit lower than its earlier chapters as of late.

Outside of Mago and Medaka's bottom 5 positions, it is a pretty good week.

[Koshi_Inaba]

A pretty good TOC with the exception of Mago, Psyren and Beelze dropping. With Mago getting color, I only need to hope the other two can rise up. With Sket Drama CD being released on October and Mago having just been announced, I think we can expect their popularity and profile rising.

[coinanmat]

1 Naruto
2 One Piece
3 Reborn
4 Toriko
5 Bleach
6 Baku-man
7 Gintama
8 Psyren
9 Belzeebub
10 Medaka Box
11 Nurarihyon no Mago
12 Akaboshi
13 Kuroko no Basket
14 ToLove

huh.... somethings weird

Yeah something dosent seem right, last time I checked, WSJ has 21 manga series, there's only 14 here. Where's the other 7?

[Estranho]

3 are not ranked yet, the newcomers. 2 are in hiatus. And 3 has color pages. And we have Jaguar too

[Koshi_Inaba]

some of them has color paged and are unranked. Kagijin, Ane-doki, Wajimania are unranked. Kochikame got cover, Sket and Inumaru got color. Those are not determined by reader poll and it's positioned are determined by the editor themselves.

[Negative Syndicate]

Beelzebub just barely out of bottom 5, and Bleach dropped down to middle, again.

[kewl0210]

Bleach isn't too much in the middle because like 5 unranked series are above it. Toriko is about normal, and Reborn has bounced back well after being low for a while.
But yeah, this issue has a ton of unranked series. And it won't be until this round gets ranked that we will be able to tell where they'll end up. From what I've seen, their position barely says anything at this point, but Kagijin is above Anedoki even though it started later, so maybe it's doing better.
Inumaru at least gets a color pic for its anniversary. Maybe someday it could get the cover... Maybe... Still hasn't had one...
Medaka and Akaboshi not doing well really. Beelzebub will probably go up and down a bit, but it doesn't seem like it'll be in danger after lasting this long doing pretty well. But it does still need to survive in the long term and still work with longer arcs.

[Estranho]

From what I've seen, their position barely says anything at this point, but Kagijin is above Anedoki even though it started later, so maybe it's doing better.
Well, this means nothing! Akaboshi were above Medaka before their first ranking =D

[Koshi_Inaba]

The buzz for Ane doki and Kagijin on manga forums are quite good. But i've heard the reception on Japan are lukewarm at best

[arsene.lupin]

imo, Beelzebub really need start new arc to fix its position.

[Koshi_Inaba]

The ranking in TOC is for 8 chapter before. So the ranking is for the chapter with the introduction of MK5. That chapter is kinda boring, so I'm not surprised.

[Kaiten]

To weird a TOC to judge. Not much to say about it. At least Toriko is back in the top 5!

[Drmke]

Kagijin above Ane Doki!!! And that's how it should stay.........

[Kaiten]

Kagijin has been an unexciting, nothing new, shonen action series. At least Ane Doki has cute Kawashita art and fanservice. Personality too.

[Negative Syndicate]

Kagijin above Ane Doki!!! And that's how it should stay.........

We should wait and see until Ane Doki's and Kagijin's official ranking, and we'll see whether Kagijin will stay above Ane Doki, or not.

[Drmke]

Kagijin has been an unexciting, nothing new, shonen action series. At least Ane Doki has cute Kawashita art and fanservice. Personality too.

Well for me, Ane Doki has been extremely unexciting. Its not all that original either. And I've never been a big fan of manga that focus a lot on fanservice.

[Wasilis]

Kagijin has been an unexciting, nothing new, shonen action series. At least Ane Doki has cute Kawashita art and fanservice. Personality too.

I believe that you're wrong~! :P First of all, Kagijin has a "personality". The author passes so many political and simultaneously social messages and therefore they increase its importance and value. Here is one example of the countless that exist; "No matter how much I run... the past will always come chasing after me. Getting something by running away is just a downright lie!" Those hidden messages make this manga more than just a manga series. And I might agree with you that it is too difficult to locate them (although it is not! :P). However, that is an advantage. You have to think about when reading. It is not just the daily life of a boy. It is a stoic series. :D On the contrast, Ane Doki, has no meaning in it at all. It is just fan service. I get better fan service by reading Change 123, so why would I read it? You say it has cute art. Kagijin don't have? And moreover it has its moment of fan service. ;)
Finally, I agree that it isn't a light series that you would expect from Weekly Shounen Jump. It is more of a dark series and serious at the same time.

So you judge! :S

[Digital_Eon]

First of all, Kagijin has a "personality". The author passes so many political and simultaneously social messages and therefore they increase its importance and value. Here is one example of the countless that exist; "No matter how much I run... the past will always come chasing after me. Getting something by running away is just a downright lie!" Those hidden messages make this manga more than just a manga series.

Doesn't every action series have quotes like these?

I haven't read Kagijin, so I can't judge, but I know I've said the exact same thing about other series before granted, D.Gray-Man does have a big fanbase outside of WSJ, so that might indicate some truth to it. I guess we'll see when tank sales come along. If Kagijin's really like that, maybe it'll appeal to older readers outside the Jump fanbase, too.

Then again, maybe not. There's the series you do have to think about, or at least can think about, and then there are the series that seem that way but really aren't all that deep. And a big fan of the series won't necessarily be able to see which one their series is.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Kagijin's not bad but it's not that good either. D.Gray-man is still darker than Kagijin and the character are much more memorable. Tsubame is also a very cliched character that looks like he come out of a "holy bible for battle manga main character". Freedom loving, mysterious, etc.
From my POV, the series doesn't over anything new. Hell, even outside jump there's still better series, Hagaren, Soul Eater. In short, Kagijin doesn't have an edge compare to other battle manga in Jump.
I think for a battle manga to become popular in Jump right now, it's either a series from a previously successful author or the series has to be creative and distinctive. Example: Toriko, Mago, and Beelze.

[Maxy Barnard]

should i feel ashamed that i haven't read ANY of the new series this time around?

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Not missing a whole lot.

None of them have been especially able to catch my interest for more than a chapter or two but I'd probably take Kagijin over the others if I had to choose.

[Negative Syndicate]

We should talk about Kagijin in Kagijin thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51022), not here. I'm thinking that we are in little off topic, right now.

[[Cross]]

should i feel ashamed that i haven't read ANY of the new series this time around?

Nope, we're in the same boat. I can't get myself to reading them either.

[Digital_Eon]

Fairly silly question here - does Akamaru Jump count as a regular issue of WSJ to retailers? Like, would overseas stores that ship WSJ every week get it too, or is it considered something special and different and not just the edition for that week despite the fact that th content is different? (I know it'd probably depend on the store, but in general...)

[StrangerAtaru]

should i feel ashamed that i haven't read ANY of the new series this time around?

I haven't read one new Jump series since Chagecha. Personally rather just wait and see before starting literally anything anymore.

[Kaiten]

should i feel ashamed that i haven't read ANY of the new series this time around?

Ane Doki is good if your a Kawashita fan. Not as memorable as Hatsukoi, still fun. Medaka is solid, not great, just well written enough to be entertaining. Other then that nothing good since Beelzebub.

[cleodux]

Ahh i only stalk OP, Gintama and Akaboshi everyweek. I wonder if Medaka is good? nee is anyone can tell me if Medaka as funny as Yankee kun to Megane chan? (from Magazine) i tried to read Sket Dance but never manage to pass 1 chapter. Mago only 3 or 4 chapters >.< i am thinking to read Toriko when it has more chapters though.

So umm sorry about the off topic.
Ha ha... kinda like Kuroro and Akaboshi are racing together toward their own doom days. I wonder who is the first one to get axed or they got axed together?

[Koshi_Inaba]

Ahh i only stalk OP, Gintama and Akaboshi everyweek. I wonder if Medaka is good? nee is anyone can tell me if Medaka as funny as Yankee kun to Megane chan? (from Magazine) i tried to read Sket Dance but never manage to pass 1 chapter. Mago only 3 or 4 chapters >.< i am thinking to read Toriko when it has more chapters though.

So umm sorry about the off topic.
Ha ha... kinda like Kuroro and Akaboshi are racing together toward their own doom days. I wonder who is the first one to get axed or they got axed together?

Kuroko is still being pimped by jump as it is the only sport manga in jump. Akaboshi is doomed. Too bad you gave up on mago, you don't know what you're missing. The first chapters are kind of bland, but beginning with the Gyuuki arc, that's when the fun begin

[Kaiten]

Ahh i only stalk OP, Gintama and Akaboshi everyweek. I wonder if Medaka is good? nee is anyone can tell me if Medaka as funny as Yankee kun to Megane chan? (from Magazine) i tried to read Sket Dance but never manage to pass 1 chapter. Mago only 3 or 4 chapters >.< i am thinking to read Toriko when it has more chapters though.

So umm sorry about the off topic.
Ha ha... kinda like Kuroro and Akaboshi are racing together toward their own doom days. I wonder who is the first one to get axed or they got axed together?

The first few chapters of Sket are a little boring. It gets a lot better. Medaka is nowhere near as good as Yankee - kun. It has it's own charms though.

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Anyone have any idea as to what is going to be cancelled with Akaboshi? Seems the only option is to go with one of the new ones.

[Kaiten]

Until Kagijin and Ane Doki are ranked I couldn't even guess.

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

I assume at least one of them will bomb. Or if not bomb, at least do badly enough for Jump to have an excuse. Speaking of which, new series should be right around the corner. I bet Muddy's author will return but I wonder who else?

[Negative Syndicate]

I think Akaboshi going to bomb at this rate, unless something miracle going to happen. And I think Medaka is safe from next cuts.

In change of subject, Sket Dance is getting colour for 100th chapter anniversary. Does anyone knows how many colours Sket Dance had, including this one?

[Kaiten]

@Deidara

I'm thinking one new series will be for a rookie mangaka. As for a returning mangaka, ITA Aimoto Shou would be a good bet. Kano has been busy lately (Loop was amazing IMO), Aso Shuichi (Yusha Gaku) is a name I expect to hear again very soon. He has a hit in him, mark my words. Finally Ichiro Takahashi (Volleyball Tsukai) had a great one shot last year, Obake Life, maybe it's time for him to return. I guess that's more who I would want to see, obviously it could be a mangaka I could care less about, like the guy who did Zan, or some other failed 2006/2007 series. For some reason I feel like Jump will save Komi Naoshi for December.

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Really? I was not expecting Komi until 2010. Hope you are right though. I believe that he has top 5 potential, even though I never really got into Double Arts.

edit: Looked up those other series you mentioned. I also think those authors will return some time in the future.

[Kaiten]

Really? I was not expecting Komi until 2010. Hope you are right though. I believe that he has top 5 potential, even though I never really got into Double Arts.


Issue 1 comes out the first week of December, technically it is 2010 :p

Komi making his come back later in 2010 is reasonable. No later then March, of course that's as much wishful thinking as actual knowledge.

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

I assume he would serialize Apple or Personant?

[SSJWill4]

Anyone have any idea as to what is going to be cancelled with Akaboshi? Seems the only option is to go with one of the new ones.

The only other one that makes sense at this point would be Medaka Box. It's been frequenting the bottom 5 without being pimped (like Kuroko is getting next issue it seems). One of the new series could get canceled (Ane Dokii or Kagijin), but unless they really bomb I find that hard to believe. I predict it will be either Akaboshi and Medaka Box, or Akaboshi and Kagijin if Kagijin bombs (really don't see Ane Dokii bombing). Then I think HxH will return along with 1 or 2 new mangas.

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

The only problem with that theory is that Medaka Box and Akaboshi came in together. I don't know of any other instances where two or more series that came in together left at the same time.

[SSJWill4]

The only problem with that theory is that Medaka Box and Akaboshi came in together. I don't know of any other instances where two or more series that came in together left at the same time.

Over Time start: Issue 33 of 2006
Zan start: Issue 34 of 2006
Both end in Issue 52 of 2006

M&Y start: Issue 2 of 2007
Junbor start: Issue 3 of 2007
M&Y end: Issue 13 of 2007
Junbor end: Issue 14 of 2007

KOSen start: Issue 2 of 2008
Muddy start: Issue 3 of 2008
KOSen end: Issue 15 of 2008
Muddy end: Issue 16 of 2008

It may not happen very often, but it has happened in the past.

[Kaiten]

I assume he would serialize Apple or Personant?

Not necessarily. His pre - Double Arts one shots were really big but he still went with an original story. He may do the same when he comes back. Hard to say at this point.

I think Medaka will get protection from another series, either Kuroko or Kagijin, or both.

[Maxy Barnard]

Ichiro Takahashi and Komi Naoshi are the two mangaka who I really think could help WSJ achieve some sort of perfection.

Though with both cases I can't see them coming in with any of their one-shots (okay maybe takahashi)

[Negative Syndicate]

Can someone upload 2009 Golden Future Cup one shots? I really want to see them.

Also, I'm surprised that Crown! (Golden Future Cup Entry #2) is a sport genre. I thought that it would be fantasy/battle manga, like D.Gray-man.

[Aikyet]

Komi Naoshi really deserves to have a relatively long running series. In spite of all the rankings and sales. Just for the fun of it.
Damn consumer society.

[Dofla]

Preview of 2010 Calendar :

http://thumbnails2.imagebam.com/4370/1ced7143696886.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1ced7143696886/)

[coinanmat]

^Oh very nice, can't wait for those to come out.

[Digital_Eon]

OP's looks very nice, but I'm not enthusiastic about the others (DGM's in particular - were there no better colour pages for it? =/ That's the only one I've seen with so many minor characters and few main cast members. Of course, it's the only one I buy, too...). Eh.

[Kaiten]

http://www.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/boyc/jpg/w_jump0520_h.jpeg

[Drmke]

I like the cover lol. The more I see stuff about the live action drama thing or whatever, it looks hilarious

[Kaiten]

Akamaru website is up! (http://www.shonenjump.com/e/akamaru/index.html) If it says anything interesting about D. Gray Man, please let us know!

[Negative Syndicate]

Looks like Dogahi Kaden author returned with new one shot. It looks interesting, and I hope he do better than last one.

[coinanmat]

http://www.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/boyc/jpg/w_jump0520_h.jpeg
I see it also comes with a free yu-gi-oh card

[Drmke]

On the Akamaru website, the one on the side that says it has 49p. Is it just me, or just it look a lot like Shaman King?

[Magicoreo]

On the Akamaru website, the one on the side that says it has 49p. Is it just me, or just it look a lot like Shaman King?

That's the very first thing I've noticed. I'm very curious about it.

[Maxy Barnard]

that's the one by the dogka manga-ka right? either way it screams rip-off to me

[Magicoreo]

I think the editors should have noticed how similar it looked to Shaman King. But, I still like the artwork...

[Crude]

It does look a lot like Shaman King. Maybe they didn't notice..?

I'm really liking the DGM cover though! Looks like Katsura Hoshino is taking a cue from Amano Akira what with the red blush near Allen's eyes and all (not sure if that's a good thing...).

[Drmke]

It looks too much like Shaman King....I thought it might be some kinda spin off just using another artist. I don't see how it could be anything else with all those unbelieveably obvious similarities to Shaman King.

[Kaiten]

I don't really see a Shaman King resemblance. It looks more like Dogashi Kaden's (surprise!) art. As I liked that series, far more then any of the sports series that have come since, I'm very excited about this one shot.

[Digital_Eon]

I don't really see a Shaman King resemblance. It looks more like Dogashi Kaden's (surprise!) art.

Oh yeah, the art style is unquestionably the same. I think what everyone's referring to is what the mangaka drew: the shield thingys, the sword, the floating spirit-y ball of... something... They're all very like Shaman King, even though the art/characters are different. Hopefully, it'll look different in the oneshot.

DGM's cover = awesome. I love it. <3 Now to find a way to BUY it.

[Siberia]

When I first saw the 49pages manga, it really looks like Shaman King. But its still necessary to read the manga before making any further comment.



DGM cover is awesome lol..can't wait XD

[Koshi_Inaba]

I got a question, when a Jump series got adapted into anime, who decide whether the anime become a standalone from the manga or become a full adaptation of the manga?
It's just that I'm confused, why successful such as Hoshin Engi, Shaman King or Neuro got the the standalone from the manga? not too mention Neuro and Hoshin only got 26 episodes, which off course caused the anime to be inferior from the manga.
It's just that, even with filler, a full adaptation is better than the standalone ones. I hope that Toriko or Mago become a full adaptation even if it has filler.

[M-Hario]

34 名前： ◆EizHb38XPU [sage] 投稿日：2009/08/2(月) 21：15:18 ID:D5TURIn3O
小ネタ
・37ドベ５　サイレン、とら、ぬらり、虜、赤星

サイレン終わたｗｗｗ＼(^O^)／

Bottom 5

Psyren
Medaka
Nurari
Toriko
Akaboshi

[Koshi_Inaba]

That's weird, I thought Mago got color this week?

[Ichiki]

Bottom 5

Psyren
Medaka
Nurari
Toriko
Akaboshi

That's fake ;)
It's too soon for the Bottom 5, and on 2ch none quote or thanks it :amuse
(And you also wrote it reverse :darn)

[Wasilis]

That's fake ;)
It's too soon for the Bottom 5, and on 2ch none quote or thanks it :amuse
(And you also wrote it reverse :darn)

That's good to hear! :D And I was wondering; Psyren in the bottom 5?! o_O

[StrangerAtaru]

Doesn't feel right: Toriko is too low and To-Love not being there is suspicious.

[Negative Syndicate]

Bottom 5

Psyren
Medaka
Nurari
Toriko
Akaboshi

Even fake, you put the order wrong. It is actually,

Akaboshi
Toriko
Mago
Tolove-Ru
Psyren

And, I also think it is fake too, but I wished Akaboshi part was true.

[Estranho]

Akaboshi
Toriko
Mago
Tolove-Ru
Psyren
I can't believe Psyren is so low so suddenly.
It's fake, I guess

[Cassius]

◆EizHb38XPU ：2009/08/03(月) 00:51:42 ID:AU35hLm7O
小ネタ
・37･8ドベ５　とら、赤星、めだか、爆、虜
・39巻頭爆　Ｃジャガー、金未来

Traslation

Shonen Jump #37-38

One Piece (Cover & CP)
Golden Future Cup (Colour Page)
Kuroko, Mago (31P & CP)

Bottom 5:

Toriko
Bakuman
Medaka
Akaboshi
ToLove Ru
Jaguar

Shonen Jump #39

BakuMan (Cover & Colour Page)
Jaguar, Golden Future Cup (CP)

[Negative Syndicate]

Is this really real? Looks like Akaboshi is dead for sure, and Medaka is also very close to in danger zone.

More surprising is that Jaguar is getting a colour. Is that means Jaguar is not going to be in last place in Issue 39?

[Mr. Prince]

Toriko yet again in the bottom... : /
Apart from that no surprise.

And hell yeah, Jump didn't forget Jaguar's 9th anniversary. So looking forward to the CP!

[jose]

Medaka and Akaboshi will die soon.

[Siberia]

I still had a small hope of Akaboshi 's survival until the latest chapter annoyed me.

Toriko n Bakuman>>yo yo mode

[Negative Syndicate]

I think Akaboshi is so far 100 percent confirmation for going to get axed.

Then, what is possibility that Medaka will go along with Akaboshi? So, far Medaka is also in danger zone.

[Koshi_Inaba]

This is the second time Toriko drop to the bottom, just hoping that this is the last time.
Akaboshi's dead no doubt about it but I hope Medaka can still survive.
And I see that Jump still hasn't given up on Kuroko. Can't they accept that it's a dull and uninteresting series?
Oh well, I'm still happy Mago got color and 31 pages and still waiting for info about the drama CD.

[Rejuvenation]

Akaboshi's death was obvious even before now.

Medaka basically has the next few weeks to try and rise or it could be done too.

Anyway, seeing Toriko and Medaka in the bottom 5 displeases me.

Still livid about them trying to throw Kuroko a bone. And I think Ane-doki starts getting ranked in issue #39. Should be interesting to see where it places.

[Negative Syndicate]

I think Kuroko is safe because volume 2 sell is pretty good. It surpassed Psyren's volume 6 and Double Arts's volume 3 sells, also it is close to Sket Dance's volume 8 sells. So, I think at this rate, Kuroko's volume 3 (which going to be released in September) will surpass Sket Dance.

I think for next cancellation, Akaboshi is 100 percent and Medaka is very close to going along with Akaboshi. But, I prefer either Inumaru or Wajimania than Medaka. There are already three short page gag series, and I think we don't need three same series. Usually short page gag series (except Jaguar) last about one year, and Inumaru is almost have been serialized for one year, so I think Inumaru die along with Akaboshi, not Medaka.

In conclusion, I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling that Kagijin going to fall bottom 5 on their official ranking. I already lost hope on Akaboshi, so I hope Kagijin survive instead.

[Kaiten]

It has been obvious Akaboshi would be the next cut since it debuted low in the bottom five. Reading discussion about it at this point is kind of boring.

[Koshi_Inaba]

I think Kuroko is safe because volume 2 sell is pretty good. It surpassed Psyren's volume 6 and Double Arts's volume 3 sells, also it is close to Sket Dance's volume 8 sells. So, I think at this rate, Kuroko's volume 3 (which going to be released in September) will surpass Sket Dance.

Really? I thought the sales of Psyren #6 was bigger than Kuroko #2. Pysren's first week sales was around 47k and Kuroko was around 38k

[Negative Syndicate]

Really? I thought the sales of Psyren #6 was bigger than Kuroko #2. Pysren's first week sales was around 47k and Kuroko was around 38k



｜*,148,400┃**95884(4)｜*38248｜*14268｜------｜ぬらりひょんの孫 (Nurarihyon no Mago) 5（2009/6/4）
｜*,*90,847┃**51163(3)｜*39684｜------｜------｜べるぜバブ (Beelzebub) 1（2009/7/3）
｜*,*88,269┃**57542(4)｜*22301｜**8426｜------｜SKET DANCE 8（2009/6/4）
｜*,*65,811┃**38053(3)｜*27758｜------｜------｜黒子のバスケ (Kuroko no Basket) 2（2009/7/3）
｜*,*59,436┃**47028(4)｜*12408｜------｜------｜PSYREN 6（2009/6/4）
｜*,*51,633┃**38106(4)｜*13527｜------｜------｜ダブルアーツ (Double Arts) 3<完>（2008/12/4）


Looks like Kuroko sold more volumes in second week than Sket Dance and Psyren.

In change of subject, Medaka is low because the ranking is based on chapter 7, about Aknue's first job, which was quite boring. So, Medaka still has a chance to increase.

[Kaiten]

I got a question, when a Jump series got adapted into anime, who decide whether the anime become a standalone from the manga or become a full adaptation of the manga?
It's just that I'm confused, why successful such as Hoshin Engi, Shaman King or Neuro got the the standalone from the manga? not too mention Neuro and Hoshin only got 26 episodes, which off course caused the anime to be inferior from the manga.
It's just that, even with filler, a full adaptation is better than the standalone ones. I hope that Toriko or Mago become a full adaptation even if it has filler.

That decision is made by the television station. Most anime are scheduled for a finite number of episodes and renewed once a year, or six months, based on popularity.

100+ episode anime are rare, most are very old kids programs. It's been years since a manga adaption popular enough debuted, Shugo Chara is the most recent. Neuro was a late night anime, late night rarely get more then 26 episodes as the broadcast is no more then an infomercial for the DVD's produced and aired solely at the expense of the studio. The same goes for Hatsukoi Limited and To Love Ru.

There is no way to know how long Toriko and Mago are scheduled for. If both run in the afternoon like Bleach and Naruto they'll get 51 episodes and the opportunity for 100 or more episodes. Having to guess I would say Sket Dance will be late night and 24 or so initial episodes.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well, even 100+ episode series begin as being scheduled for 26 or 52 episodes, but with the knowledge that they might go on if popular. Part of it comes down to the studio's decision, and part of it is determined by popularity. Hell, the writing staff for Pokemon originally planned to only do 78 episodes of the show when they first started.

[Rejuvenation]

Kuroko sold a bit more than I originally thought. All of that color whoring must have not been a complete waste.

I really want to see how the newest series fair this month since they all should start getting ranked in the next few issues. I'm not sure which I like best between Kagijin and Anedoki so if I had to choose one to live it may be hard. >.>


It has been obvious Akaboshi would be the next cut since it debuted low in the bottom five. Reading discussion about it at this point is kind of boring.

Definitely agree with you here.

[Drmke]

And Kuroko only gets outta the bottom five because of the extra pages and color.....probably it and Akaboshi next cuts unless Medaka keeps getting lower.

But yay Bakuman cover!!!

[Siberia]

It has been obvious Akaboshi would be the next cut since it debuted low in the bottom five. Reading discussion about it at this point is kind of boring.

huh, ur rite......"Akaboshi is dead" has been repeated for more than 50 times XD

[StrangerAtaru]

Bakuman started in the Bon issue last year so this is actually it's first anniversary coming up...interesting to see it lasting this long after Obata's last series but Ohba may have something to do with it.

And meanwhile...it was just a bad time for both Medaka and Akaboshi, that's all I really can say at this point with them pretty much guaranteed (well in Akaboshi's case) cutting soon. Weird seeing though series like Psyren and Sket not down there anymore...

[Kaiten]

Times are changing, last years "losers" are getting closer to anime.

[jose]

Times are changing, last years "losers" are getting closer to anime.

The Best "losers" hahaha.

I think the 3 new series will be axed soon too.

[StrangerAtaru]

I think the 3 new series will be axed soon too.

It's too early for Ane, Kagi and that other series to go yet. Akaboshi and Medaka will probably go in their place when we get new series probably in September. (and that will probably be it for new stuff until December when we get to Issue 1, 2010.

[Siberia]

in September, will DGM or HxH come back for a WHILE until next new stuff come ?

[Kaiten]

God knows with Hunter x Hunter. DGM...... it wouldn't surprise me if some news was included in Akamaru.

[Siberia]

God knows with Hunter x Hunter.
haa....I like that.....even the mangaka himself doesn't know how annoying it is to HxH fans.


btw, the next cut is gonna happen in September????

[Kaiten]

btw, the next cut is gonna happen in September????

Most likely in late August, after the double issue or early September. Cuts are usually 8 to 12 weeks apart.

[Digital_Eon]

Is there a chance we'd know if DGM's returning in the weeks before Akamaru if it's going to happen immediately after? It'd probably be revealed in the spoilers... But I can also see it happening during cut season, too.

Wait, when are the Golden Future oneshots ending? That might be it.

The rumours said HxH would return in October, but will there be a round of cuts in October? Would they add it without cutting something else? Maybe if Ane-doki or Kagijin ends up plummeting just after the next round of cuts, or something else ends (Kuroko?)...

[SSJWill4]

The rumours said HxH would return in October, but will there be a round of cuts in October? Would they add it without cutting something else? Maybe if Ane-doki or Kagijin ends up plummeting just after the next round of cuts, or something else ends (Kuroko?)...

It could happen similar to what happened in 2007 around this time where they cut a couple series and wait a few issues before adding new ones.

39 end Volleyball
40 end Hitomi no Catoblepas
44 new Hatsukoi Limited
45 return HxH

Who knows though. Hopefully Togashi finished this batch of chapters before DQIX hit stores.

[TitaniumChloride]

Jump recently opened a special site just for the summer holidays called "Trea-Jump Island (http://www.shonenjump.com/j/torejanisland/index.html)" (sounds something like 'Treasure Island') which will last from the 3rd of August up till the 31st.

It features:

Free 1280 x 1024 wallpapers - there's a batch of them in the treasure chests featured on the page. A new treasure chest will 'open' each week. Some of the ones from the first batch are wallpapers available this month on the main site.
The first 3 chapters of currently serialized works (Japanese only). The site is claiming that it will have more than 1800 pages up.
Free clock and news desktop application (http://www.shonenjump.com/j/download/desktop.html) featuring a popular character (currently Goku from Dragonball)
Blog part (http://www.shonenjump.com/j/download/blogparts1.html) with scrolling news
An open survey (Japanese) (http://www.shonenjump.com/j/torejanisland/enquete/form.html)
Links to games already on the main site


I wish the survey had an 'outside Japan' option to it's drop down of readers location... Anyway, there's nothing really special for non-Japanese people except the wallpapers maybe.

Also, from the way D.Gray-man is still listed there, I'm fairly certain that it'll continue to be serialized in Shonen Jump.

[Koshi_Inaba]

No worries about D.Gray-man. It's volume sales is higher than even Reborn or Gintama, if not for hiatus it would surpass their sales.

[Negative Syndicate]

It's too early for Ane, Kagi and that other series to go yet. Akaboshi and Medaka will probably go in their place when we get new series probably in September. (and that will probably be it for new stuff until December when we get to Issue 1, 2010.

We still can't consider that Ane Doki and Kagijin are safe from this round of cancellation. Ane Doki was released too early, which Ane Doki started 7 weeks after the release of Akaboshi and usually next new series line-up begin about 10 weeks after of past new series line-up. So, these series might have chance to be axed with short chapters, like Chagecha (8 chapters) and Meister (10 chapters), with Akaboshi.

[Kaiten]

Chagecha and Meister are extreme examples. Most series are given (roughly) 15 - 20 chapters to prove themselves. Asklepios and Hoop Men, for example. Even Muddy and K.O. Sen had more then ten chapters. Ane Doki is by a well known mangaka who is following up a successful series. I doubt it will debut in the bottom five. Kagijin could but with Asklepios so low and Medaka doing relatively poorly it would be hard to justify ending it with less then 15.

[ZoddGuts]

Wouldn't be surprised if Medaka gets cancelled along with Akaboshi, Medaka has been in the bottom 5 for three weeks straight and now is in the bottom 3. It's pretty much bombing.

[Digital_Eon]

Jump's not beyond cancelling Akaboshi, Medaka, AND Kagijin all at once if they're doing badly enough.

Words cannot describe how happy I was to see DGM as one of the series with a three-chapter preview up there. (I tried reading it, too. ^^;; )

Anyway, I think TitaniumChloride meant that it probably won't be moved to another magazine (like SQ) if it's being featured on the WSJ site like that - not that it'd ever be cancelled.

[Negative Syndicate]

We cannot consider Ane Doki is safebecause the author is well known. There are lots of authors that have failed after the success of their previous one, like Watsuki, Fujisaki, Sawai, and Takei. The Jump will not give more chance to well known, they going to give all mangakas an equal chances.

And we should not think just about series's position based on quality of chapters, we have to look all of the series' quality in Jump to predict series' ranking.

I'm not saying that Ane Doki is really bad series. But, I think that Ane Doki has high possbility that it will not going to debut in bottom 5, but based on quality of chapter 2 and 3, Ane Doki have possible chance to drop, even to bottom 5.

For example, Ane Doki's ranking on chapter 2 is going to be released at about issue 41.

List for some series' chapter ranking on Issue 41:

Ane Doki=chapter 2
Kagijin=chapter 1
Sket Dance=chapter 97
Psyren=chapter 78
Mago=chapter 66
Toriko=chapter 56
Bakuman=chapter 45
Kuroko=chapter 29
Beelzebub=chapter 20
Medaka (if continues until Issue 41)=chapter 10
Akaboshi (if continues until Issue 41)=chapter 9

In you guys opinion, based on above list, actually how many series are worse than Ane Doki's chapter 2? Be Honest!

[Siberia]

Is there a chance we'd know if DGM's returning in the weeks before Akamaru if it's going to happen immediately after? It'd probably be revealed in the spoilers... But I can also see it happening during cut season, too.

Wait, when are the Golden Future oneshots ending? That might be it.

The rumours said HxH would return in October, but will there be a round of cuts in October? Would they add it without cutting something else? Maybe if Ane-doki or Kagijin ends up plummeting just after the next round of cuts, or something else ends (Kuroko?)...

definitely there will be some news of DGM in Akamaru Jump. If DGM is gonna reserialize in WSJ again, some spoilers might come 2-3weeks in advance. Since DGM will have 50p in the upcoming week n it might be too rush to make an annoucement , it would be less likely that DGM will get reserialized right after Akamaru Jump.

I think it might return to WSJ after the golden future cup ends


HxH, who knows lol
Kagijin, I couldn't have a chance to read it, is it good?

[Crude]

It's an alright series, though in my opinion chapter 2 should've been included in the first chapter.

[Negative Syndicate]

I think a series that sandwitched by Jaguar and Tolove-Ru (like Asklepios and Hoopmen) and a series that stay above Tolove-RU (like Bokke-san and Akaboshi) are a number 1 choice for cancellation.

[coinanmat]

I wouldn't have a problem if To Love-Ru was canceled becase i personaly think its kinda out of place anyways. It dosent seem like a Shonen type series anyways. Akaboshi was kinda cool in the begining but its kinda dull now. I dont care for Medaka Box either so It wont be any loss to me if Jump axes those series.

[TitaniumChloride]

It just occured to me, but what's the max limit on the number of series that can fit into a single, normal issue of Jump anyway?

Huh, I just read that Kochikame's live action premiere wasn't too hot (http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-5106).

Despite the hype, the TBS drama series "Kochira Katsushikaku Kameari Kouenmae Hashutsujo" (abbreviated as "Kochikame") got off to a poor start this weekend. The first episode, which aired on August 1, managed to get only 12.2% ratings in the Kanto region.

[coinanmat]

^Weekly Shonen Jump has 21 manga series and has roughly around 450 pages, its a perty big magazine, its about the thickness of a freakin phone book. And lol at the Kochikame live action series bombing

[Negative Syndicate]

I was thinking that most people in MH are judging too fast on whether this series will bomb or not.

Some people already saying that Ane Doki will be success and Kagijin will be bomb. Even in drama, Kochikame did have pretty disappointing start, but I think 12.2 rating isn't really that bad.

I think we have to be more patient on what's going to happen on the series.

[Drmke]

I was thinking that most people in MH are judging too fast on whether this series will bomb or not.

Some people already saying that Ane Doki will be success and Kagijin will be bomb. Even in drama, Kochikame did have pretty disappointing start, but I think 12.2 rating isn't really that bad.

I think we have to be more patient on what's going to happen on the series.

Well guessing on what will bomb and what won't is fun :D. Plus, what else are we supposed to do in between ToC's and chapter releases?

[Negative Syndicate]

I just found out that in accessup.org, most of high ranked series are mostly become successful. According to accessup.org, number 1 series in 2007 and 2008 are Sket Dance and Nurarihyon no Mago. And low ranked series are usually get axed, like wost series in 2007 and 2008 are Poseidon Gakuen and Meister.

I'm not sure this is good info. to make prediction on which Jump series can be successful or bomb. I want to know what others think. In addition, best series in 2009 is currently Itsuwaribito Utsuho (from Weekly Shonen Sunday), and worst series is Wajimania.

[Kaiten]

The discussion about Kochikame's drama has been moved here. (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52001)

[Koshi_Inaba]

Can someone give the total sales of each volume of Mago and Toriko? And the first six volume of D.Gray-man?

[Siberia]

Can someone give the total sales of each volume of Mago and Toriko? And the first six volume of D.Gray-man?

ぬらりひょんの孫
#1 68,710
#2 108,605
#3 138,814
#4 143,905
#5 148,400

トリコ
#1 161,360
#2 155,233
#3 168,285
#4 177,023

[Cassius]

Firts rankings, at this time from Here (http://www.jbook.co.jp/p/p.aspx/bun_realrank_02/) (This ranks are practically in real time, are changing during the day)


1- Naruto 47
2- Bleach 40
3- BakuMan 04
4- New Prince of Tennis 01
5- Eyeshield 21 36
6- Tolove 15
7- Toriko 05
8- Nurarihyon no Mago 06
9- Monster Hunter Orange 04
10- Nogami Neuro 23
11- Sket Dance 09
12- Psyren 07
13- Embalming
14- Kochikame
17- Luck Stealer

[Negative Syndicate]

Looks like Shueisha is conquering all of the book store on this week. And Prince of Tennis is still strong as before. Also, I think this is actually a first time that Psyren went above Sket Dance.

[Drmke]

Damn, Bakuman, Psyren, and Mago are selling great! Better than I thought.

[Kaiten]

Can't wait to see numbers next week! About a month ago there was a message with a couple of chapters of Psyren mentioning volume 6 sold out, that volume 7 increased sales (presumably) is not much of a shock. I'm happy to sit it, even if I knew it was coming. I presume first week will be under 100,000, but I'll wait for next Wednesday to prove me wrong.

BTW: every other publisher avoids putting their big titles out the first week of the month. Shueisha taking the entire top ten is impressive but the competition knows to stay away.

[dct21]

Damn, Bakuman, Psyren, and Mago are selling great! Better than I thought.

whats wrong with that

[Kaiten]

whats wrong with that

I think Drmke is happy they're selling well -_-;

[Koshi_Inaba]

does the site count the sales of the tankoubon in the entire country or just it's own site?

[Negative Syndicate]

Shonen Jump's motto is Friendship・Endeavor・Victory.

Kochikame=Friendship
One Piece=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Hunter x Hunter=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Naruto=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Jaguar=Not sure
Bleach=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Gintama=Friendship,Victory
Reborn=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
D.Gray-man=Friendship,Victory
To Love-Ru=Not Sure
Sket Dance=Friendship
Psyren=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Nurarihyon no Mago=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Toriko=Friendship,Victory
Bakuman=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Inumaru Dashi=Not sure
Kuroko no Basket=Endeavor,Victory
Beelzebub=Friendship,Victory
Medaka Box=Friendship,Victory
Akaboshi=Victory(maybe)
Ane Doki=Not sure
Kagijin=Not sure
Wajimania=Not sure

How other people think about it?

[Koshi_Inaba]

I mostly agree. Although for Mago, i think its more of loyalty than friendship, at least from Rikuo's underling POV.I also don't know about endeavor. To-love is more friendship i think

[Digital_Eon]

DGM's not about endeavour(ing)? :blink I'd say there's quite a lot of that - all of the characters have their struggles to become better and stronger (not powerfully, either!) people. At least as much as friendship, anyway.

Funny how the biggest series all show some of that, eh?

(I'd say an additional category should be lulz, but... =P)

[Kaiten]

Most magazines have a theme or style the editors impose on the majority of series in the anthology. Jump is the only one that advertise the theme itself. Neuro is the only recent series that I can think of that didn't demonstrate the importance of friendship, doing your best, striving for improvement, and achieving a goal. Even the dating and comedy manga follow those themes. It's a teen magazine, trying to reinforce values society feels is important.


DGM's not about endeavour(ing)? :blink I'd say there's quite a lot of that - all of the characters have their struggles to become better and stronger (not powerfully, either!) people. At least as much as friendship, anyway.

Funny how the biggest series all show some of that, eh?


ITA DGM has a lot "endeavor" to it. They have a goal, defeat the Earl, that they have to follow through on no matter what.

"Endeavor" could be no more then making yourself a better person, getting the girl, it doesn't have to be the epic quest. Gintama, in it's own weird way, still has some of that. Ane Doki is a coming of age story, Toriko has the quest to build the perfect menu. Underlying all Jump series, the characters set a goal, follow through, and eventually achieve it. Along the way they learn the importance of friendship and loyalty. Every series should have "friendship, ambition, achievement", the official motto of Weekly Jump next to it. That's the theme of every current series no matter what synonym anyone wants to substitute.

[Dofla]

#37-38 (10/08) :
One Piece (CP)
Naruto
Bleach
Gintama
Belzeebub
Inumaru
Ane-Doki
Andô Ei / North Island (CP)
Wasshoi! Gag Mania
Nuraryon no Mago (CP, Drama CD)
Kagijin
Waji Mania
Kuroko no Basket (CP, 31p)
Psyren
Sket Dance
Kochi
Reborn
Toriko
Baku-man
Medaka Box
Akaboshi
To Love
Jaguar

Ps : The cover page is share, protagonists of each manga are eating an ice cream.

[Kaiten]

Beelzebub is back in the top 5 where it belongs.

[pandaaqueen]

So many unranked series ~_~;

[Estranho]

Why there are two Wasshoi?

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Naruto
Bleach
Gintama
Belzeebub
Inumaru
Psyren
Sket Dance
Kochi
Reborn
Toriko
Baku-man
Medaka Box
Akaboshi
To Love
Jaguar

Not a bad week for Psyren.

[Negative Syndicate]

I uploaded a picture of some authors from Shonen Jump for people who are interested in. I'll put in spoiler because picture is pretty big.

http://gaatsu.ps.land.to/up/src/up_0794.jpg

Kubo Tite=BLEACH
Akimoto Osamu=Kochikame
Komi Naoshi=Double Arts
Hoshino Katsura=D.Gray-man
Obata Takeshi=Death Note, Bakuman
Murata Yuusuke=Eyeshield 21
Araki Hirohiko=JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Shiibashi Hiroshi=Nurarihyon no Mago
Usuta Kyosuke=Masaru-san, Jaguar
Ooishi Kouji=Inumaru Dashi
Asou Shoichi=Yuusha-Gaku
Kishimoto Masashi=Naruto
Matsui Yuusei=Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro
Oda Eichiro=One Piece
Konomi Takeshi=Prince of Tennis
Masuda Kousuke=Gag Manga Biyori
Yabuki Kentaro=Black Cat, To Love-Ru
Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi=Seikimatsu Leader Den Takeshi!, Toriko
Gamou Hiroshi=Luckyman
Amano Yoichi=Over Time, Akaboshi
Ushimize Tohru=Kain, Asklepios

I'm not sure who is the smallest picture.

[StrangerAtaru]

There's no Sorachi...I want to see if he really looks like a gorilla. (Kubo's been known for a while though considering NF has an emoticon of him trolling the fans)

As for the TOC...I like where Gintama is, I like that Psyren is knocking at the top and Beezle's still returning to it's earlier run form...that's about it.

[Koshi_Inaba]

ooh, nice. Believe it or not, Shiibashi Hiroshi and Komi Naoshi are not what I expected them to be, especially Shiibashi sensei. His looks more like a martial artist than a mangaka for me:p

[Negative Syndicate]

My most surprise are Shimabukuro sensei and Matsui sensei. And is it just me or is Obata looks like Inoue Takehiko?

[TitaniumChloride]

@muwlove: Thanks for the pic!

Too bad the mangaka of KHR isn't in the collage either. There would have been one more female in there...

[Negative Syndicate]

Too bad the mangaka of KHR isn't in the collage either. There would have been one more female in there...

I uploaded a picture for Amano Akirai sensei.

http://www.nautiljon.com/images/people/akira_amano.jpg

[Koshi_Inaba]

do you have the photo of sorachi?

[Negative Syndicate]

do you have the photo of sorachi?

Actually, I think Sorchi sensei doesn't reveal himself,yet. So, I'm not sure that I can find a picture of Sorachi sensei.

But, Sorachi sensein made a comment that himself looks similar to Takeda Tetsuya, Japanese singer/actor.

[Mr. Prince]

Well, as for Mangaka picture...I found one lurking 2ch a looo~ng time ago with quite a few more guys (from the past) on it [Yet, still no Sorachi. : /]:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6731/b0013851np4.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/i/b0013851np4.jpg/)

Shinsha Suzuki (Mr Fullswing)
Naoki Azuma (Genten no Natsu)
Nobuyuki Fukumoto (Akagi) || alt. pic ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fukumoto_nobuyuki.jpg')
Daisuke Higuchi (Whistle!)
Kousuke Masuda (Gag Manga Biyori)
Kouji Kumeta (Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei)

Kiyohiko Azuma (Azumanga Daioh, Yotsuba&)
Koge-Donbo (Pita-Ten, Di Gi Charat)
Eiichiro Oda (One Piece)
Kentarou Yabuki (To Love, Black Cat)
Yuusuke Murata (Eyeshield 21)

Yasuhiro Kanou (Mx0)
Kubo Tite (Bleach)
Hiroyuki Asada (Tegami Bachi)
Takeshi Konomi (Prince of Tennis)
Hiroyuki Takei (Shaman King)
Sejima Kinzoku (? OS "Dakishimete Baseball Love")

Masashi Kishimoto (Naruto)
Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro (Toriko) || a.k.a. Niizuma Eiji: COW!! CROW!!!!
Yumi Hotta (Hikaru no Go)
Takehiko Inoue (Vagabond, Slam Dunk) || alt. pic ('http://www.lejapon.org/info/images/divers/inoue01.jpg')
Yoshihiro Togashi (Hunter x Hunter, YuYu Hakusho)
Hirohiko Araki (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

no idea - Kanji illegible for me
Kiyu [alias: Matsui Katsunori] (Sommelière) || Must Read Story about him ('http://easternstandard.pbwiki.com/The%20Legend%20of%20Kiyu')
Tsukasa Hojo (Cat's Eye, City Hunter)
Masami Kurumada (Saint Seiya, Ring ni Kakero) || alt. pic ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Po001.jpg')
Shin Takahashi (Saikano, Ii hito)
Minetarou Mochizuki (Dragon Head, Miwai)

Kazuki Takahashi (Yu-Gay-Oh) || alt. pic ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kazuki_takahashi.jpg')
Hideo Iura (Bengoshi no Kuzu)
Nobuhiro Watsuki (Rurouni Kenshin, Gun Blaze West)
Tsunomaru (Midori no Makibaou, Gocchan desu!!) & Masanori Morita (Rokudenashi Blues, ROOKIES)
Usuta Kyousuke (Pyuu to fuku! Jaguar, Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoiyo!! Masaru-san)

Keisuke Itagaki (Grappler Baki, Garouden)
Gosho Aoyama (Detektiv Conan, Kaito Kid) || alt. pic ('http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Gosho_Aoyama_mit_zwei_Fans.jpg&filetimestamp=20060618221729')
Masami Yuuki (Patlabor, Jaja Uma Grooming Up!)
Ken Akamatsu (Love Hina, Negima!)
Kousuke Fujishima (Oh! My Goddess, You're Under Arrest!)
once again: Hirohiko Araki (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

Makoto Raiku (Zatch Bell)
Kazushi Hagiwara (Bastard!!)
Buichi Terasawa (Space Adventure Cobra)
Izumi Matsumoto (Kimagure Orange Road)
and for the third time: Hirohiko Araki (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

Kouhei Fujino (Assistant of Usuta Kyousuke and Yuusuke Murata) und Usuta Kyousuke
Masakazu Katsura (Video Girl Ai, Zetman, I"s, DNA²) || alt. pic ('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HPIM0370.JPG')
Katsuhiro Ootomo (Akira, Metropolis, Steamboy)
Mitsuru Adachi (H2, Cross Game, Katsu!)
Akira Toriyama (Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump...)

Kazuhiro Fujito (Ushio + Tora)
Hiroyuki Utatane (Heaven's Prison)
Kentaro Miura (Berserk)
Mikio Itoh (diverse One Shots)
Namie Odama (Junjou Pine)
Masahito Soda (Megumi no Daigo, Subaru)


As for the ToC...can anybody explain what's "Gag-mania"? Is it some new occasional thing like Hetappi? I mean, Waji-mania is listed as well...
Good week for Gintama. Happy to see it up there. But all in all there are just way too much unranked series currently...I can't wait til the real fun starts.^^

[eni]

*inserts fangirl touch to the topic*

Holy crap! Matsuei is such a hottie :luv Is there some bigger picture of him? :wtf

Ehem, ToC, yes... interesting this week.... ... .. Gosh, he's so cute! :fangirl

Maybe someone could edit the pic(s) with English text on it? Will be easier for most people here.

[Negative Syndicate]

Thank you for more picture.

Shimabukuro sensei trying to act himself as Niizuma. :)

[Drmke]

Beelzebub is back up in the top 5 where it definetly belongs. Also, Psyren is just barley outta the top 5 so that's pretty good too.

Nice that Kagijin is still staying up there a little even if it isn't ranked yet.

[TitaniumChloride]

As to why there are two Wasshoi's listed, could it be because there are actually two parts? I'm looking at my copy of issue 35 and after it's main manga (第３訓), there were also some 4 komas (第４訓).

Edit: Just noticed that the 4 komas part was titled 'Wasshoi! 4 KoMa-nia' (koma+mania) so it could be something similiar.

[Beckinsale]

Thanks to Mei-san.

http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/4454/a0626044532902.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a0626044532902)

Please post thumbnails of large pics. Thanks!!~~

[nassass]

The main characters are very colorfull now.

[Digital_Eon]

Aww, what a cute cover. (Wish DGM had been on it.)

Matsui looks too pretty to be drawing manga. Wooooow.

[Rejuvenation]

Ha, I have to say that is one of my favorite covers in recent memory. I really enjoy it.

As for the ToC, I'm glad to see Beelzebub rise up again. Reborn, Toriko, and Medaka I'd like to see higher next week. Psyren has been doing good for itself as of late along with Sket.

Now lets see if Ane-doki and Kagijin can actually manage to rank well in this cluster fuck. Also obligatory death wish for Kuroko.

[Negative Syndicate]

I think the cancellation system worked by if a series stayed in bottom 5 for at least five striaght weeks.

For example:

Samurai Usagi=10 weeks
P2! - let's Play Pingpong! -=5 weeks
Blue Dragon RalΩGrad=7 weeks
Hatsukoi Limited=8 weeks
Double Arts=6 weeks

In conclusion, Kuroko actually never stayed bottom 5 for five straight weeks, so I think Kuroko is safe, for now. However, Medaka is in bottom 5 for three weeks now, so if Medaka doesn't escape bottom 5 for next 2 or 3 issues, then Medaka has high probability to be go along with Akaboshi.

[Maxy Barnard]

patterns aren't always so consistent, just roll with the fact that cancellations can be pretty much random as long as the series has started to falter heavily.

[arsene.lupin]

imo, cancellation considering many aspect, not just ToC. how you explain To-Love-Ru and Jaguar.

[Negative Syndicate]

patterns aren't always so consistent, just roll with the fact that cancellations can be pretty much random as long as the series has started to falter heavily.

Yeah, I know that patterns aren't consistent. But, there are quite often this pattern was occured, since 2007, I think. And my study(?) was based on series that survived pretty long, but got axed eventually.


imo, cancellation considering many aspect, not just ToC. how you explain To-Love-Ru and Jaguar.

Jaguar is actually an unranked series. I think the author chose to stay in the last place. So, actually a real last place is above Jaguar. Furthermore, Jaguar is actually quite popular in Japan, it does pretty well on volume sells, too.

The main mystery is Tolove-Ru. It is in bottom 5 for I think almost one year. I heard the rumor that the author always hand the work late, that's why it puts on the bottom. And I think few weeks ago, To Love-Ru was top of bottom 5 because this time the author handed the work on time.

[Crude]

Some of those pictures look like they were taken years ago. On one photo Kishimoto looks like a teen and on another Oda looks like one too. Kubo seems to have changed a little, though he still likes wearing shades.

[kewl0210]

To-Love-ru as a long running series, over 200 chapters... I forget how long, it gets good volume sales too. It's around the same as Toriko, so like 175,000 each...

[Kaiten]

Toriko is poised to pass ToRa in sales, but the point is well taken. To Love Ru would be the most popular series in either of the other three weekly shonen anthologies. Judging it by it's popularity by TOC placement is nearly impossible. Same goes for D. Gray Man an even more popular series that has polled erratically at best. While Gintama and Reborn have always ranked higher, DGM has always sold better.

Don't forget: dropping into the bottom only matters if it happens within the first ten chapters, and stays there. After that series usually last long enough to be judged by sales.

[Negative Syndicate]

Don't forget: dropping into the bottom only matters if it happens within the first ten chapters, and stays there. After that series usually last long enough to be judged by sales.

I think this rule only occured from complete new series that fall down to bottom 5 and never escaped from it, like Asklepios, Bokke-san, Hoopmen, and Akaboshi.

But, the series that did pretty well on the beginning, then fallen down to bottom 5, like Blue Dragon, Hatsukoi, and Double Arts, might take rule #2. Even Shaman King got axed because of being in low ranking for long time.

[Kaiten]

Double Arts fell into the bottom five within ten weeks and stayed their. Nothing is canceled after only five weeks so it stands to reason that every series that has ever been canceled for low rankings has been in the bottom five more then five weeks. Even that can mean very little. Psyren and Sket Dance spent more then five weeks in the bottom five, neither are huge seller, yet they're still serialized.

Hatsukoi may not have been canceled. The story feels complete, the argument could be made that Kawashita began resolving subplots as early as chapter 18. Besides, why use a series as example of cancellation when it's anime just ended. The only new anime from Weekly Jump this year.

There is no "magic number" or "secret formula" for canceling a series. It is an editorial decision based on a handful of metrics, from fan feedback to volume sales. If those metric are met but the staff feel potential still exists, or it fills an important (genre, age, never genre) demographic void Shueisha may allow it to last longer then another series with similar rankings or sales. But nothing will ever be automatically be canceled upon hitting something arbitrary as staying in the bottom five exactly 5 straight weeks.

[Negative Syndicate]

Double Arts fell into the bottom five within ten weeks and stayed their. Nothing is canceled after only five weeks so it stands to reason that every series that has ever been canceled for low rankings has been in the bottom five more then five weeks. Even that can mean very little. Psyren and Sket Dance spent more then five weeks in the bottom five, neither are huge seller, yet they're still serialized.

Hatsukoi may not have been canceled. The story feels complete, the argument could be made that Kawashita began resolving subplots as early as chapter 18. Besides, why use a series as example of cancellation when it's anime just ended. The only new anime from Weekly Jump this year.

There is no "magic number" or "secret formula" for canceling a series. It is an editorial decision based on a handful of metrics, from fan feedback to volume sales. If those metric are met but the staff feel potential still exists, or it fills an important (genre, age, never genre) demographic void Shueisha may allow it to last longer then another series with similar rankings or sales. But nothing will ever be automatically be canceled upon hitting something arbitrary as staying in the bottom five exactly 5 straight weeks.

Double Arts did very well on first ten weeks, it was regularly on top 5 or middle, it even got cover on chapter 13. Double Arts dropped to bottom 5 around chapter 17 or 18 and stayed their until it got axed. If Double Arts didn't drop to bottom 5, is should have gone same level as Gintama/Reborn/D'Gray-man.

And, to me, Hatsukoi had a rushed ending because it was in bottom 5 for around 7 or 8 weeks. If a series stayed that long in bottom 5, it is very difficult or impossible to escape from bottom 5. And I was expected that Kawashita to have more relationship between Yuuji and Misaki because they are my most favorite couple in Hatsukoi.

Lastly, I didn't say that if a series stayed on bottom 5 for at least five weeks, it will, 100 percent, be cut. I said that it is in very dangerous position to be cut next, but there were some exception for this rule, like Mx0, Sket Dance and Psyren.

[Siberia]

There is no "magic number" or "secret formula" for canceling a series. It is an editorial decision based on a handful of metrics, from fan feedback to volume sales. If those metric are met but the staff feel potential still exists, or it fills an important (genre, age, never genre) demographic void Shueisha may allow it to last longer then another series with similar rankings or sales. But nothing will ever be automatically be canceled upon hitting something arbitrary as staying in the bottom five exactly 5 straight weeks.

Exactly.

[Maxy Barnard]

the 'automatically' here is the important info muwlove. we're not disputing that series are usually cancelled when they've been at the bottom 5 for any amount of time, just that it is one of MANY deciding factors and a low ranking can mean jack in the long run. or the short run.

EDIT: caught the hell up with the topic. is it me or are the majority of manga-ka... not exactly lookers....

especially my favourite of the bunch, buichi terasawa.... he scares me

[nassass]

I think if a series axed, it has some chapter make an alternative ending. So if decided the cancellation it has chapters. And needles ranking this chapters, so they in the end of TOC.

[Negative Syndicate]

Does someone know when the first week sale for Psyren, Mago, Toriko, and Bakuman will be revealed?

Also, I found something interesting site about AKABOSHI. I'll be honest, it is written in Japanese.http://2style.jp/h_renka/ausp.htm

[coinanmat]

Shonen Jump's motto is Friendship・Endeavor・Victory.

Kochikame=Friendship
One Piece=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Hunter x Hunter=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Naruto=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Jaguar=Not sure
Bleach=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Gintama=Friendship,Victory
Reborn=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
D.Gray-man=Friendship,Victory
To Love-Ru=Not Sure
Sket Dance=Friendship
Psyren=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Nurarihyon no Mago=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Toriko=Friendship,Victory
Bakuman=Friendship,Endeavor,Victory
Inumaru Dashi=Not sure
Kuroko no Basket=Endeavor,Victory
Beelzebub=Friendship,Victory
Medaka Box=Friendship,Victory
Akaboshi=Victory(maybe)
Ane Doki=Not sure
Kagijin=Not sure
Wajimania=Not sure

How other people think about it?
I though Shonen Jump's moto was to Publish badass manga and brainwash people into wasting their life savings on the magazine JK
seems like all of SJ's manga fits those 3 principals


Thanks to Mei-san.

http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/4454/a0626044532902.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a0626044532902)

Aww what a cute cover, all the Shonen Jump characters in chibi form, Im gonna have to buy that. ROFL at Ichigo's facial reaction

If possible, keep really big quotes in spoiler tags and large pics as thumbnails. Thanks!!~~

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Does someone know when the first week sale for Psyren, Mago, Toriko, and Bakuman will be revealed?

Most likely next Wednesday on AnimeNewsNetwork.

[Drmke]

Also, I found something interesting site about AKABOSHI. I'll be honest, it is written in Japanese.http://2style.jp/h_renka/ausp.htm

My computer won't display it right. Anyone know what it says? I'm kinda curious to know if it really is interesting or not.

[Akainu]

Seems to be an appeal to support Akaboshi because it's supposedly in danger... nothing that interesting (assuming googles translation and my undersstanding are at least going into the right direction :D)

[Drmke]

Seems to be an appeal to support Akaboshi because it's supposedly in danger... nothing that interesting (assuming googles translation and my undersstanding are at least going into the right direction :D)

Ok thanks :tem and yeah that wasn't very interesting lol

[Mr. Prince]

Yeah...it's generally "Let's rescue AKABOSHI in the following three steps:
1. Send in those evaluation cards with AKABOSHI at 1st place
2. Write fan letters - that person heard from a friend that would matter in order to stop the cancellation...it's quite funny, since it's stated "Even if you only write one word and use no proper note paper that's fine" lol
3. Propaganda and advertisment - make AKABOSHI more well-known"

All in all...yeah, definitely not really interesting.

Oh and as for the Tankou sales for the next week...I kept an eye on this 24 hours live sales charts and Psyren's been high in the beginning but it's already dropped.
I'm expecting Sket Dance to sell better since it's constantly quite a few positions above Psyren. (Link (http://www.jbook.co.jp/p/p.aspx/bun_realrank_02/) for those who didn't save the link)
Top 5 had been the same all the time: Naruto -> Bleach -> Bakuman -> Tenipuri -> ES21

[Kaiten]

EDIT: caught the hell up with the topic. is it me or are the majority of manga-ka... not exactly lookers....

especially my favourite of the bunch, buichi terasawa.... he scares me

When your paid to draw comics 24/7 every week, all year personal hygiene and appearance are hard to maintain. Except for Kubo and Hiro Mashima apparently, but they're really the same person so it hardly matters.

[Magicoreo]

When your paid to draw comics 24/7 every week, all year personal hygiene and appearance are hard to maintain. Except for Kubo and Hiro Mashimo apparantly, but they're really the same person so it hardly matters.

It looks like Kubo can draw pretty fast ( according to that one video) so, it's no wonder.
Same goes for the series, I say he's pretty much half-assing his series. No offense, I still do read the manga, but it's really lacking.

[Googlez_kun]

It looks like Kubo can draw pretty fast ( according to that one video) so, it's no wonder.
Same goes for the series, I say he's pretty much half-assing his series. No offense, I still do read the manga, but it's really lacking.
what video do you mean??
i would like to see that!^^
are there also other manga-ka that made videos showing them drawing?

[Magicoreo]

It should be this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx6NSVHyU0A
Then again, it's only one drawing but still. If he can draw a cover for Akamaru Jump that fast, well, who knows?

No, I don't think there are other videos of mangaka drawing. Then again, I never bothered to check.

EDIT: Watched it again, it's just coloring his picture. So it might contradict what I just said earlier.

[Kaiten]

Jumpbang! has a lot of weird Jump related footage that might be interesting if I knew Japanese. The guys dressed as pirates and talking parrot are delightful in any language.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

So am I right in saying Bleach is pronounced Breach, since it's said like bu-ri-chi?

[xi0]

So am I right in saying Bleach is pronounced Breach, since it's said like bu-ri-chi?

No. "Burichi" is just the romanization of how it's written in Japanese. Since they lack a unique "l" sound and "n" is the only consonant Japanese words (usually) end in.

It's written bu-rii-chi (first 'i' is long) since the 'u' and 'i' sound in Japanese are very faint to the point that you don't really hear them. Additional to that, there's no distinction between 'l' and 'r' in Japanese. I have a Japanese book here where it's transcript 'aligatoo' not 'arigatou', both is technically correct and just using different transcription systems.

So while it's written bu-rii-chi, the actual pronunciation lets the 'u' and second 'i' kinda fall away while the 'r' is no different from a 'l'. Makes it sound close to the English word b-lea-ch.

From the inconsistent spelling of Ishval/Ishbal in the FMA scanlations, you can also see that 'v' and 'b' also share the same kana. You have a similar problem in the DGM manga where Hevlaska was spelled Hebraska by scanlators first and nobody really knew whether one of the characters was named Lavi, Labi, Ravi or Rabi before the official spelling list was out <.<

Not to forget the never ending debate on how to write the title of the Elemental Gerad manga correctly since the mangaka said he doesn't care. Be happy that Kubo made it clear in terms of spelling and pronunciation >.>;

Back to topic! :clap

[Negative Syndicate]

I think this week's issue is probably longest in this week. There are 21 series ongoing, and two series are having 12 extra pages, there are two Wajimanias, plus one 40-50 pages one shots.

[coinanmat]

Jumpbang! has a lot of weird Jump related footage that might be interesting if I knew Japanese. The guys dressed as pirates and talking parrot are delightful in any language.
lol I love watching that show, even though I cant understand Japanese its still fun to watch. I enjoyed the episode where they interviewed Kubo and the one on Bakuman as well. I also like the theme song for the show, its called Jump and its orginally by Van Halen, seems appropriate for the show.

[StrangerAtaru]

lol I love watching that show, even though I cant understand Japanese its still fun to watch. I enjoyed the episode where they interviewed Kubo and the one on Bakuman as well. I also like the theme song for the show, its called Jump and its orginally by Van Halen, seems appropriate for the show.

They actually use Van Halen's "Jump" as the theme? That's just hilarious!

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

If anyone cares to answer, where can you watch that JumpBang program?

[Siberia]

youtube lol...thats the only way I can watch that TV program n I can't wait for next week's schedule (*cough* DGM *cough*)

or u can install a software (dunno its detail)

[kewl0210]

Speaking of Jumbang (there's no p), they're doing vomics (voice-comics) for Beelzebub next month. I've mentioned it before, but they've done Inumaru Dashi, Toriko, Bakuman, and I think Naruto. Plus a lotta stuff from not-jump. They're nice to see, as a kinda semi-anime. I know Naruto at least used the actors from the anime.
Inumaru's apparantly is starting a second round, usually they do 4 and update each week in the month.

http://www.s-cast2.net/janbang/

[coinanmat]

They actually use Van Halen's "Jump" as the theme? That's just hilarious!

Yes they do and Im a fan of classic rock so when ever I hear the song on the radio it gives me just a big smile because it reminds me of that TV show and my favorite manga magazine.
@Kewl0210 yeah the vomics are perty intresting. I find the show very entertaining, I mean who wouldnt find a couple of guys dressed up in pirate suits funny. Only In Japan do they have TV programs like this.

[Crude]

Watch the Reborn! episode. It features the voice actors and it turns out that one of the pirate guys actually voices Skull in the series. Watch this episode if you want to see the presenters of the show "dub" a scene from the anime (Tsuna with Skull's voice). I can't believe they actually featured the theme from The Godfather and Say You Say Me from Lionel Richie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vYDVhT7q0&feature=related

[Negative Syndicate]

Is Koneta will release tomorrow or one week after? Because of double issue, I'm not really sure when bottom 5 and TOC for issue 39 will be release.