Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Negative Syndicate]

I guess you change Inumaru and Lilienthal...

犬っ=いぬまるだしっ=Inumaru Dashii
犬=賢い犬リリエンタール=Lilienthal

I think my order is right.


#44 (28/09) :
Bleach (Couverture & Page Couleur)
One Piece
Naruto
Gintama
Reborn
Kashikoi Ken Rilienthal (25p)
Sket Dance
Toriko (Page Couleur)
Inumaru Dashi
Kochi Kame
Kuroko no Basket (Page Couleur)
Hôkenshitsu no Shinigami
Beelzebub
Baku-man
Nurarihyon no Mago
Akaboshi
Wajima
Ane Dokî
Psyren
Medaka Box
Kagijin
Jaguar


I think this order is wrong.

[Drmke]

Nice seeing Akaboshi not in the bottom 5 for once. But Mago is a little too low for me...prefer top 5 :p

And I still wanna read Shinigami :crying

[ruggia]

Yeah, Raw Paradice is wrong.

Even though it is not bad, I have a feeling Hokenshitsu will become one of the regular Bottom dweller. I just can't see the series being popular.

[Kaiten]

How is Akaboshi doing well? It's sixth from the bottom. When did being a spot out of the bottom five suddenly become good?

[Drmke]

How is Akaboshi doing well? It's sixth from the bottom. When did being a spot out of the bottom five suddenly become good?

Not good but better lol still in a bad spot but it does give a sliver of hope for the fans.

[Negative Syndicate]

Not good but better lol still in a bad spot but it does give a sliver of hope for the fans.

If there are 3 outs on next round, it will be Medaka, Kagijin, and Wajimania. If there are 4 outs on next round, then Akaboshi will be included.

[Kaiten]

Why Medaka, Why Waji? Akaboshi has lower average position. Akaboshi has been out of the bottom five fewer times. Akaboshi has yet to be higher then sixth from bottom.

[Negative Syndicate]

Why Medaka, Why Waji; Akaboshi has lower average position? Akaboshi has been out of the bottom five fewer times. Akaboshi has yet to be higher then sixth from bottom.

About three of four weeks ago, Akaboshi increased massively to middle range, completely out from bottom 5. Also, Medaka is doing very bad on last few weeks.

And for Wajimania, there are already have 7 comedy series: KochiKame, Jaguar, Gintama, Sket Dance, Inumaru, Wajimain, and Lilienthal, that is too many. The editors won't let KochiKame, Jaguar, Gintama, and Sket Dance to be end, Inumaru is lowest sales in Jump series but rankings are very high so it might be safe, and Lilienthal is new series so I'm not sure what'll be happening to it by I think it is safe until next year. So, Wajimania has nothing to save it.

But, I also don't want Medaka to cancel. I wish both Medaka and Akaboshi to survive. But, I'm not sure the editors just going to cancel Kagijin and Wajimani.

[Rejuvenation]

Issue 44
Bleach (Cover, Colour Page)
One Piece
Naruto
Gintama
Reborn
Inumaru
Sket Dance
Toriko (Colour Page)
Lilienthal
KochiKame
Kuroko (Colour Page)
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Beelzebub
Bakuman
Nurarihyon no Mago
Akaboshi
Wajimania
Ane Dokii
Psyren
Medaka Box
Kagijin
Jaguar

Issue 45
Reborn (Cover, Colour Page)
Psyren, Ane Dokii (Colour Page)

I don't really have much to say this time. Its nice to see Sket Dance high this week and the top 4 aren't all that surprising. Only really care for the Toriko color but next week's colors I'll look forward too as well.

[Kaiten]

About three of four weeks ago, Akaboshi increased massively to middle range, completely out from bottom 5. Also, Medaka is doing very bad on last few weeks.

But, I also don't want Medaka to cancel. I wish both Medaka and Akaboshi to survive. But, I'm not sure the editors just going to cancel Kagijin and Wajimani.

Akaboshi has been serialized for twenty weeks and eighteen issues. It has been "ranked" for twelve of those eighteen weeks. Out of those twelve weeks it has ranked in the bottom five ten times. The first time it ranked higher was issue 41, in tenth place. It immediately fell to third from bottom. Last week it fell again, now second from bottom. This week is it's second week out of the top five, rising one spot out of the basement. Akaboshi was also the lowest ranked series, other then To Love Ru, before Kagijin was poll eligible. I'm not sure how any of that is a massive improvement. Really, Akaboshi's rankings have been identical to Belmonde and Hitomi. Medaka's have been nearly the same as early Sket Dance.

[Negative Syndicate]

Really, Akaboshi's rankings have been identical to Belmonde and Hitomi. Medaka's have been nearly the same as early Sket Dance.

Hitomi's ranking:01 11 06 12 10 10 16 10 17 13 09 19 13 20 17
Belmonde's ranking:01 11 06 12 13 09 14 11 14 15 15 19 19 20 20 20 19 20 20
Sket Dance's ranking (chapter 1~20):01 09 11 15 08 12 15 17 16 16 18 18 19 18 11 15 17 14 07 07
Medaka's ranking:01 04 08 07 09 07 09 10 11 15 14 17 16 18 18 21 19 19 15 20
Akaboshi's ranking:01 04 08 07 09 10 07 15 17 20 20 18 19 20 20 11 18 20 16

To me, Akaboshi is more similar to early Sket Dance. And Medaka is bit worse than early Sket Dance.

[Kaiten]

Akaboshi's average is lower then Hitomi's. Belmonde had better numbers until Sket Dance hit it's stride. Sket's success came at Blemonde's expense, the former rose right as the latter fell. Akaboshi has more weeks in 15th or lower than Belmonde. More weeks (barely) than Medaka at 15th or lower, quite a few more times at 20th or lower. Hitomi spent much less time then Akaboshi below 15th, only going to 20 or lower once.

[Negative Syndicate]

Akaboshi's average is lower then Hitomi's. Belmonde had better numbers until Sket Dance hit it's stride. Sket's success came at Blemonde's expense, the former rose right as the latter fell. Akaboshi has more weeks in 15th or lower than Belmonde. More weeks (barely) than Medaka at 15th or lower, quite a few more times at 20th or lower. Hitomi spent much less time then Akaboshi below 15th, only going to 20 or lower once.

I think you forgot one thing. Jump increased the number of series since 2008. On 2007, there are average 20 series in one issue, but since 2008, Jump now has average 22 series in one issue. So, actually Sket Dance are Akaboshi pretty same. Sket Dance dropped to the last weeks two weeks in a row, then saved by Belmonde, P2, and Samurai Usagi. And that goes same with Akaboshi, which dropped to last place once, and later saved by To Love-Ru, Medaka, and Kagijin.

[Mr. Prince]

Well, I can see all three series going down: Akaboshi, Medaka and Kagijin. (While I currently can't see Wajimania going anywhere - I know how bad it's received at 2ch and all...but that seems to have little to no bearing on its ToC performance up to this point.)

One just has to take a look at this "xth to last place" list which was also posted on 2ch:

Kagijin 　　　　　| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | *-*-*-*-*-4-1-1-1-1
Medaka 　　　　| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-4 | *-5-5-3-4-1-2-2-*-2
Akaboshi 　　　| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-4-2 | 1-2-3-2-2-2-*-3-2-6
Wajimania　　 | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | *-*-*-*-3-*-5-*-*-5
Kuroko　　　 　 | *-*-*-*-*-*-3-4-*-1 | 3-*-2-*-5-*-*-*-3-*
Psyren　　　　　| *-4-*-*-*-3-*-5-2-* | *-*-*-*-*-3-*-4-5-3
Sket Dance 　| 5-5-5-3-*-*-4-*-*-* | *-*-*-*-*-*-3-*-4-*
Mago 　　　　　 | 4-2-3-4-3-*-5-*-*-* | *-*-4-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Bakuman。　 　| *-*-*-*-*-4-*-3-*-3 | *-3-*-4-*-*-*-*-*-*

[kewl0210]

Yeah, whoever said it was right, the one with the small tsu is Inumaru Dashi.

This TOC is pretty average... Akaboshi is still low even if it's not bottoming out.
It might last a bit longer but won't last a long time.

Hokenshitsu no Shinigami being 12th on only its third chapter isn't great for it. But I guess as long as it's not in the bottom five it's okay.

Gintama's been doing well, it's been in the top five the last few issues after being low for so many times. I think this corresponds to that "ranking" arc. So it makes sense.

Sket Dance is high. Maybe that whole helium thing convinced people to vote for it...

And Beelzebub and Bakuman are in the middle, which is about where you'd expect them to be.

[ruggia]

All four new series (Waji, Akaboshi, Medaka, Kagijin) have pretty high chance of getting axed.
Kagijin is a given, no doubt about that.
about Waji, its "failure" is only based on our speculations and assumptions, which really have no base. Waji might actually be popular, it might not be. who knows. but I agree with the opinion that there is a very high chance that the editors are protecting the series, and I don't like the number of gag mangas WSJ is having lately.

Medaka, its been down for quite a while, and even though it had decent rank (or at least better than Akaboshi) in the beginning, its been a sinking ship lately, so I don't see the chance of MB improving its rankings, unless they do another yuri kiss or something worse :p

Now, Akaboshi is the interesting one! it was pretty bad at first, but lately, i think its the only new series that have been showing some improvement/change in its ranking, unlike MB and Kagijin thats been sitting at the bottom two spots for weeks. I think it has some chance of survival, at least higher than the other three.

[Negative Syndicate]

Sket Dance is high. Maybe that whole helium thing convinced people to vote for it...

Sket Dance's ranking isn't based on helium chapter, it is based on chapter 100. We will know the ranking for helium chapter at few weeks later.

[[Cross]]

Sket Dance's ranking isn't based on helium chapter, it is based on chapter 100.

Which is the reason for the high ranking, since it was their 100th chapter and they had a colour page for it.

[SameOld]

Would you people stop caring about Akaboshi's past and focus on its future? Screw the first ten chapters: if it manages to stay in the top ten for several weeks until the round of cuts is due, there's no way it'll be axed, regardless of how badly it did at first.

And anyone who reads Akaboshi and has a sane mind knows "staying in the top ten for several weeks" isn't a dream anymore, with the colossal improvement of the recent chapters. Then again, I guess there's no point in stressing this out anymore; you people will only understand it once you see it happening. If the chapter with the huge knife-bird is anywhere near the bottom five, I'll give up. Wait for issue 47.

[Crude]

It's useless to compare the series we have now to the rankings of past series. Jump as a magazine keeps changing, for better and for worse.

[StrangerAtaru]

All I really see regarding Akaboshi is this: if it improves, it improves, even if it's at the expense of newer series that are collapsing. 6th from last doesn't mean we're seeing an anime any time in the future, but at least it is a start or a mirage...

Good week for Sket and Gintama, though, so I guess it's not that bad a week.

[SameOld]

All I really see regarding Akaboshi is this: if it improves, it improves, even if it's at the expense of newer series that are collapsing. 6th from last doesn't mean we're seeing an anime any time in the future, but at least it is a start or a mirage...


Yeah... to be honest, I wouldn't think it was such a big deal if it wasn't related to a chapter most people consider the series' weakest. That's what makes me have so much hope for the upcoming weeks. Hell, a chapter with a ton of gags and little to no action managed to pull it out of the bottom 5... imagine what the chapters that made even some haters start liking the series a bit (though it may not happen the same way with the Japanese, I know) are capable of!

[Drmke]

Well Medaka, Akaboshi, and Wajima all still have a month to improve on rankings till the next cuts. Kagijin could still improve, but its chances seem much lower just because I don't see any series doing worse or an older series ending which is what saved some of the others.

[Estranho]

It's useless to compare the series we have now to the rankings of past series. Jump as a magazine keeps changing, for better and for worse.

You said everything, man. There isn't a pattern for series.
People can compare the series, of course, but this means almost nothing for the future of series ongoing.

For example, some people said that Akaboshi is pretty condemned, but now we are not so sure.

[Galactic Tomahawk]

I'm still not gonna say Akaboshi's definitely safe, but I'm not so sure that it's definitely gone anymore either. Even if it just stayed where it is right now, it could very well slip past a few worse off series and either get around P2/Usagi length or eventually develop enough of a fandom to hold it's own.

Really gonna depend on the next few rankings.

[Digital_Eon]

Even if the meeting is in a few weeks, the editors will have information about its popularity from the preceding chapters - though we haven't seen the results in the ToC yet. If Akaboshi really is improving, it'll count for something. And is it possible to have a kind of conditional status - e.g. if Akaboshi's tank sales are good, it stays, if not...?

[Koshi_Inaba]

Akaboshi sales currently in amazon is pretty bad. Medaka on the other hand, almost rival mago and reborn

[Akiyama]

Akaboshi sales currently in amazon is pretty bad. Medaka on the other hand, almost rival mago and reborn
Could you post the results so we can see them? ;)

[Koshi_Inaba]

I can't post the result yet, because they are not yet on the top 100. But there are the sales ranking on the product page. Mago, Reborn and Medaka are usually ranked around 200-300 best selling manga, Akaboshi is still around 1000

[Negative Syndicate]

I'm not sure the series with low ranking and high tank sales are safe. In Bakuman, the ranking is treated more importantly than the tank sells.

[kewl0210]

Bakuman warps things a bit from reality. They said something like "if you sell more than 500,000 tankoubons it doesn't matter where you're ranked" but really very few sell that high, but things like ToLoveRu stayed at the bottom and kept being serialized and got animes.

Though I really doubt something's gonna get an extremely high sales if it's NEW and doing badly. But tankoubon results do trump TOC results.

[cleodux]

I thought Akaboshi vol1 will be on sale next month?

[Kaiten]

Sales are the be all and end all, no matter what Bakuman says. If the tankobon sell, Shueisha makes money. The polls do not turn a profit. The magazines do not turn a profit. Their sole purpose is to promote the tankobon. If Shueisha canceled a manga that made money over the polls they would have gone out of business long ago. D. Gray Man would have been canceled long ago. To Love Ru would have been canceled. Mago would have been canceled. It was consistantly in the bottom five after selling a million tankobon. As Kewl said very few series that poll poorly from the start sell well, or even make it long enough to sell. They are usually non - action series that don't poll well no matter what.

[Koshi_Inaba]

It goes on sales next month but pre-orde is available. Unless it's an action series or at least have elements of it, very few sold around 500k. There are very few non-action manga that are among jump all time best selling titles of all time. The one I know are barefoot gen, toilet no hakase, I"s, hikaru no go, kochikame

While bakuman is a good manual to know a lot about manga, but that doesn't mean you should swallow everything without filtering it. Sales are the king, manga is a business, publisher wants money

[Kaiten]

I can't post the result yet, because they are not yet on the top 100. But there are the sales ranking on the product page. Mago, Reborn and Medaka are usually ranked around 200-300 best selling manga, Akaboshi is still around 1000

I'd like to see this. Could you post a link to the product page please :)

And don't think of great sales as just the mega - series. To Love Ru and Eyeshield would have been among Shonen Magazines recent best sellers. Fairy Tail and Ahiru no Sora, ShoMag's most popular series, sell about the same as those two.

[Mr. Prince]

Akaboshi #1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/AKABOSHI-%E7%95%B0%E8%81%9E%E6%B0%B4%E6%BB%B8%E4%BC%9D-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E5%A4%A9%E9%87%8E-%E6%B4%8B%E4%B8%80/dp/4088747771/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253766052&sr=8-1)
Currently: 964th rank in Manga & Anime & BoysLove [Is it just me or is the third point sorta disturbing]

Nurarihyon no Mago #7 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%AC%E3%82%89%E3%82%8A%E3%81%B2%E3%82%87%E3%82%93%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%AB-7-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E6%A4%8E%E6%A9%8B-%E5%AF%9B/dp/4088747380/ref=pd_sim_b_3)
Currently: 232th

Katekyou Hitman Reborn! #26 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%AE%B6%E5%BA%AD%E6%95%99%E5%B8%AB%E3%83%92%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3REBORN-26-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E5%A4%A9%E9%87%8E-%E6%98%8E/dp/4088747291/ref=pd_sim_b_3)
Currently: 228th

Medaka Box #1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%81%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8B%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E6%9A%81%E6%9C%88-%E3%81%82%E3%81%8D%E3%82%89/dp/4088747763/ref=pd_sim_b_2)
Currently: 187th

Bleach #41 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/BLEACH-41-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E4%B9%85%E4%BF%9D-%E5%B8%AF%E4%BA%BA/dp/4088747348/ref=pd_sim_b_1)
Currently: 51st

[Koshi_Inaba]

Looks like Mr prince beat me to it:D. This is updated every half an hour. Just updated a few minutes ago Medaka is now at 207, mago 217, Reborn 228, Akaboshi 796, Bleach 51

[Kaiten]

That's a very grizzly stat on Akoboshi. Medaka doesn't surprise me, NisiOisiN fans who might not by Jump every week could be pushing the pre - orders up. I am surprised it's more popular then Reborn. Since Amazon requires payment for pre - orders this represents actual sales. Thanks for bringing it to our attention Koshi, thanks for the links Mr. Prince :)

[Rejuvenation]

That is an interesting bit of information to see.

Makes me even more interested to see actual sales figures for volume 1 when it is released.

[Koshi_Inaba]

I agree with you about Medaka, Kaiten. NisiOisin is now a household name and has legion of fans ready to buy his work. When I first saw Medaka's ranking, the first thing that jump into my mind was NisiOisin's name

[salam-daim]

cover jump #44

http://i37.tinypic.com/2zfo675.jpg

[Koshi_Inaba]

As much as I like the art, the color is really bland, nothing compare to Bakuman's cover. The color spread are also not that special compare to mago. BTW, anyone still checking on amazon? Mago, Reborn and Medaka has reached 100 while Akaboshi is back to 1000

[[Cross]]

Oh my, now this is getting interesting.

[salam-daim]

one image about reborn in jump 44

http://imagefruity.com/images/za41gi20zy2obbdbu5ja.jpg

bleach color page


http://imagefruity.com/images/2a0r4r8kzeqbpq85gs2l_thumb.jpg
(http://imagefruity.com/viewer.php?file=2a0r4r8kzeqbpq85gs2l.jpg)

[[Cross]]

Now that's a good cover in the midst of their so-so covers leading up to now.

[salam-daim]

I read in another forum
There will be a poster of Reborn in Jump # 45. and there will be a new scoops on Reborn in the next 4 numbers. So 4 Scoop in a row.

[[Cross]]

Yup, but who knows what it will all lead up to, that seems to be the real mystery since having four in a row should mean something important is coming. Though reborn already has a novel and an anime, what's left?

[salam-daim]

what about :
film
live film
artbook
databook

[[Cross]]

An art or databook probably wouldn't warrant 4 colours in a row, a movie would probably be our best bet.

[ruggia]

Who knows? it might be something like Rebron going on hiatus and WSJ trying to make up for it with posters and stuff. (very unlikely to happen :D)
that was kind of the deal with Death Note

[coinanmat]

cover jump #44

http://i37.tinypic.com/2zfo675.jpg

Wow now that's a nice cover

[SameOld]

The Amazon numbers keep changing, Akaboshi's 887 now and Medaka's 140. To be quite honest, I don't think this means much. And if it does, it's more likely to be a matter of Medaka selling insanely high than of Akaboshi being below average.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what Psyren's first week sales for volume 1 were? Yeah, just the first week sales.

[Digital_Eon]

It's good to be cautious of pre-order numbers. They do indicate something, but actual sales may be surprising. As a music fan, I've seen tons of... well, music CDs... start out with good sales because of pre-orders and then the sales just PLUMMET after that because the fans have already bought what they want. Akaboshi may not be doing well now, but we won't know for sure until the actual numbers come out... and then wait a few weeks to see longevity. But this isn't looking good, no..

[Crude]

I like Medaka and all but if it's selling that well then I just don't know why. It could be the NisiOisiN fans but in my opinion Medaka just doesn't compare to Bakemonogatari.

Nice Bleach cover by the way, although as it was pointed it out earlier, the colours used in it could be better (unless it's the scan's fault). The colour spread is also nice, reminds me of a fashion magazine.

[kewl0210]

ALL of the Bleach color spreads are like fashion magazines...

I wouldn't bank on the amazon sales. It's only a small part of the market that buys from there, and that's based on people ordering it before it comes out.

[Drmke]

No covers on Amazon...so disappointing lol

[Mr. Prince]

Well, there are no covers on Amazon yet since most of them are presented in next issue of JUMP which is in stores September, 29th (mo.).
If we're lucky some of our beloved Raw Providers will scan the preview pages some time soon (as it's already been done in Reborn!'s case) :tem

[coinanmat]

Well I found this on Bleach Asylum
Bleach volume 41
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/264/bleach41.jpg
Yammy? Aww I was hoping for Super Hollow Ichigo

[BBB Banana]

I believe akaboshi's art is gonna be a decisive factor to sales Medaka and akaboshi's popularity with jump readers isn't impressive so the one wich can atract more readers from other magazines is the one wich is going to sell more. And I have to say akaboshi's art is amazing Medaka is also amazing but not so much so akaboshi is probably going to sell better IMHO.

[SameOld]

^I think the art has very little to do with actual sales.

What I think will happen is: Akaboshi's sales will be way below average for the first volume, but (assuming the author manages to keep the quality high for the next chapters) it'll start doing better and better in the ToCs, which in turn will make readers more interested in buying the tankohons. As long as it doesn't get axed in a reasonable period of time (say a year or two), I can see it reaching the 100k mark sometime in the future. BUT unlike Medaka, the readers of other magazines won't have anything to do with it. As far as content goes, Akaboshi is as "Jump-like" as it gets; if it has to find its audience somewhere, it's within Jump, not somewhere else. Which is why I believe ToC rankings will influence its survival - or death - much more than sales (see how long Psyren lasted, despite selling poorly).

[Negative Syndicate]

I think the volume cover art,itself, affects the tank sells. There is still lots of people who doesn't know about Akaboshi and Medaka. So, I think people normally judge mangas by its artwork first, then they read the manga to know more detail about it. So, I think the volume cover plays kind of big part of tank sells.

[Xadyu]

Of course, for people who are unknown with the actual manga, the cover is mostly the sole-medium which makes them actually buy the volume.

It's not good to judge a book by it's cover, but it's the most common thing to do.

[ruggia]

completely agree with cover getting people to buy volumes :D

whenever I go to a Japanese bookstore, volume covers and artwork often times got me interested in some mangas, and lead me to learn more about them. (not necessarily buy them, but still, they got my attention.)

it definitely works to get people find out more about mangas that they don't know.

[Akiyama]

Here's an update on pre-sales on Amazon with the ranks

Medaka Box 1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%81%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8B%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E6%9A%81%E6%9C%88-%E3%81%82%E3%81%8D%E3%82%89/dp/4088747763/ref=pd_sim_b_2)-159

Akaboshi 1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/AKABOSHI-%E7%95%B0%E8%81%9E%E6%B0%B4%E6%BB%B8%E4%BC%9D-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E5%A4%A9%E9%87%8E-%E6%B4%8B%E4%B8%80/dp/4088747771/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253766052&-sr=8-1)-2025 (you'll need one amazing cover to save this manga)

[Xadyu]

Why's that? It's on Amazon, it's only a small part of people who buys manga through Amazon. There are far more places to buy manga from, Amazon sales alone don't mean shit.

[Akiyama]

I think Amazon is a good reflection on how it will do in the upcoming weeks. You just have to put two and two together. If it's not doing good on Amazon don't except it to do good in bookstores. Try to be open minded when looking at different retailers including ones online like amazon. ;)

[Koshi_Inaba]

Amazon is one of the most popular retailer in japan. Even oricon has partnership with it, if there is a product on oricon, they will always have a link to amazon for that product. In fact, most of product posted online, especially thing like manga or anime always have a link to amazon, it's that popular. it means a lot xadyu.if it does well on amazon, it will on the charts, I've been monitoring amazon for more than three years

[[Cross]]

Also, sales work in patterns, if a gap is this big in one venue, you can imagine how big the gap would be in other places.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Indeed, Cross. The only manga I know which sales are not that great on amazon but sold greatly in other places is Toriko.

[Negative Syndicate]

Then, do you know the ranking for the other series' first volume, like early volume for Gintama, Reborn, Sket Dance, Psyren, etc. I know that Gintama, Sket Dance, and Psyren didn't sell well on their first volume.

[Koshi_Inaba]

All of their first volume, I think are among the hundreds both pre order and after that. I don't keep tab of everything, so I can't remember everything completely. But I do remember Reborn getting a surge when Hibari is first introduced, introduction of Mukuro also give off a big surge but the biggest came with the Varia arc D.Gray has already been high since the beginning, I think it's the fastest to grow compare to Reborn and Gintama. Jump manga are mostly predictable in term of growth. When an interesting character is introduced or an anime is on air, it will rise. The most surprising usually come out of smaller magazine such as GFantasy. One word: Kuroshitsuji, dear god, Kuroshitsuji....

[SameOld]

Then, do you know the ranking for the other series' first volume, like early volume for Gintama, Reborn, Sket Dance, Psyren, etc. I know that Gintama, Sket Dance, and Psyren didn't sell well on their first volume.

I asked that for Psyren not long ago, but no one replied. And really... Akaboshi's ranking on amazon is inconsistent as fuck. It may be under 2000 now, but it was above 800 just yeaterday, for Christ's sake. If it constantly ranked below 2000, I'd take it as an indication of something, but it's oscilating between abysmally low and not that low at all.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Psyren first volumes is low on Amazon, and didn't chart into the top 30 of oricon for the first two or three volume, IIRC

[Negative Syndicate]

Is Amazon's ranking based on numbers of onlin-onrder or numbers of searches?

[Koshi_Inaba]

online order off course, but the more popular a series is more people will buy it. Also, on the page it clearly said before the number:Amazon.co.jp Sales Rank

[M-Hario]

#44 HQ cover scanned by [Ju-Ni]Vicissitude:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1006/bleachch37500a.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1006/bleachch37500a.jpg)

Add! Thanks!!

[Koshi_Inaba]

Just a little information, while Amazon is an accurate one, the Jbook site even more accurate. Unfortunately, they only give out the ranking of the manga when it is released. After the manga is released, you should check out the site to find out it's ranking

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Amazon pre-order rankings are notoriously inaccurate. It can have some bearing in the truth, but it's not enough to draw a conclusion on that alone.

[[Cross]]

Amazon pre-order rankings are notoriously inaccurate. It can have some bearing in the truth, but it's not enough to draw a conclusion on that alone.

Certainly not, however it may just be foreshadowing what's to come, seeing as the gap between the two is pretty large, so we can assume that, even if it's not by the same margin, Medaka will probably sell more than Akaboshi the first time around.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Medaka has NisiOisin' name attached to it. It's a bigger promotion than some cover

[Kaiten]

Pre - orders can be called an early indicator. While one can draw few conclusions about how many copies will be sold one can determine demand. Clearly there is more demand for Medaka Box. More people have been willing to part with their money before they were actually able to own than were willing to for Akeboshi. Considering how low Akaboshi is it would not surprise me if it misses the top thirty altogether. Considering Medaka in relation to Mago, Reborn, and Toriko there is a possibility it could rank as high as the top fifteen.

[Majin_Reid]

Issue 36 - 2009 (NOT CURRENT)
http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc1005/th_46075_2009_-_36_4MLQ2_122_1005lo.jpg (http://img196.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=46075_2009_-_36_4MLQ2_122_1005lo.jpg)


It's been a while since I've posted a scan, but now I'm in Japan and I JUST bought a scanner. So expect HQ weekly cover scans... WITH the (IMO) oh so important spine. Here is a fill that I did of issue 36.

In case you gave a shit about the 1996 scans I was doing, those are put on hold as I didn't bring them to Japan.

I also have some surprise covers coming up. :tem So look forward to that.... or not.

If you have any scanner advice or criticism, please send it my way.


Updated #36 Thank you!

[cleodux]

hei i check the amazon links provided here to follow the sales ranking in real time (keep refreshing lol) curious.

At this time Medaka vol 1 is #162, Akaboshi vol 1 is #839.

I wonder what is the actual sales figures. Like what is the gap between #2000-ish to #800-ish.

[sir_arles]

Issue 36 - 2009 (NOT CURRENT)
http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc1005/th_46075_2009_-_36_4MLQ2_122_1005lo.jpg (http://img196.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=46075_2009_-_36_4MLQ2_122_1005lo.jpg)


It's been a while since I've posted a scan, but now I'm in Japan and I JUST bought a scanner. So expect HQ weekly cover scans... WITH the (IMO) oh so important spine. Here is a fill that I did of issue 36.

In case you gave a shit about the 1996 scans I was doing, those are put on hold as I didn't bring them to Japan.

I also have some surprise covers coming up. :tem So look forward to that.... or not.

If you have any scanner advice or criticism, please send it my way.


Updated #36 Thank you!

Thanks a lot!
I'll be expecting to see those covers, specially the old ones.

I've been trying to find or make an archive of all the old covers(1990~2005) of WSJ in High Quality, but didn't have much luck so far...

Can't wait to see what you have for us WSJ fans XD

[Kaiten]

http://thumbnails.imagebam.com/5011/125dbd50105806.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/125dbd50105806)

Cover of Mago's drama CD, out 12/18

[Koshi_Inaba]

I love the cover to Mago drama CD, but I don't think that's the finished cover, Drama CD usually has more elaborate cover. BTW, the raw for jump are a bit late today isn't it?

[SameOld]

hei i check the amazon links provided here to follow the sales ranking in real time (keep refreshing lol) curious.

At this time Medaka vol 1 is #162, Akaboshi vol 1 is #839.

I wonder what is the actual sales figures. Like what is the gap between #2000-ish to #800-ish.

I'm doing the same thing here lol.
Now Akaboshi is just a little below #1000... it's just like I said, it keeps going up and down. Not to say #800 is a good number but hey, at least it's not below the 1000s all the time.

Is there any chance there aren't many people buying it because it was put under the Boys Love cathegory? :P
(just kidding, but seriously, what the hell were they thinking)

[coinanmat]

Thanks a lot!
I'll be expecting to see those covers, specially the old ones.

I've been trying to find or make an archive of all the old covers(1990~2005) of WSJ in High Quality, but didn't have much luck so far...

Can't wait to see what you have for us WSJ fans XD
That would be awesome if someone kept those old magazines around but unless they are a die hard Shonen Jump fan like myself and never throw away the magazines then I dont see that happening. I would love to see some of the covers from the 1980s when Dragonball was running.

[Majin_Reid]

2009 - Issue 36 (Better Image)
http://img262.imagevenue.com/loc135/th_81385_2009-36.2_122_135lo.jpg (http://img262.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81385_2009-36.2_122_135lo.jpg)

2009 - Issue 43
http://img218.imagevenue.com/loc28/th_81389_2009-43.2_122_28lo.jpg (http://img218.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81389_2009-43.2_122_28lo.jpg)

Here is a better version of that issue 36 I posted earlier. This one is not as bright and more similar to the actual colors of the cover. I also cleaned the spine and some of the front. Please replace the previous one with this version.

More to come soon, including that issue 42 that is missing.



That would be awesome if someone kept those old magazines around but unless they are a die hard Shonen Jump fan like myself and never throw away the magazines then I dont see that happening. I would love to see some of the covers from the 1980s when Dragonball was running.

That's what a store in Japan called Mandarake is for. A few of those 1980s Dragonball covers.... just wait a little while. ;)

Updated issue 43! Thanks!!

[Mr. Prince]

I could contribute a fair number of 04 covers if they are needed...but my scanner ain't that great. Nevertheless, if there's demand I'd get down to business this weekend. : )

[Kaiten]

I love the cover to Mago drama CD, but I don't think that's the finished cover, Drama CD usually has more elaborate cover. BTW, the raw for jump are a bit late today isn't it?

I like it, something manga/anime related that shows a little restraint ;)

[SameOld]

Another update on Amazon's pre-order ranks:

Medaka Box 1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%81%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8B%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E6%9A%81%E6%9C%88-%E3%81%82%E3%81%8D%E3%82%89/dp/4088747763/ref=pd_sim_b_2)-128

Akaboshi 1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/AKABOSHI-%E7%95%B0%E8%81%9E%E6%B0%B4%E6%BB%B8%E4%BC%9D-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E5%A4%A9%E9%87%8E-%E6%B4%8B%E4%B8%80/dp/4088747771/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253766052&-sr=8-1)-........521

How is it even possible that something oscillates so much in a single day? That's it, I'm not following these numbers anymore. :P

[BBB Banana]

You're rigth it's to unstable to be trustable we will need to wait until actual sellings start to be sure about the situation.

[Estranho]

For we have this oscillation, probably the numbers are small. This way, any single pre-order makes a high difference.

[StrangerAtaru]

Judging the future of a manga on a vol. 1's sales is a dangerous prospect. Considering that the series isn't established yet and things are always changing, it really isn't something I rather follow too seriously. (BTW: for whomever was asking about first volumes of the '04 series, I remember based on S-Manga...when it was still running...that Gintama didn't even make the top 20 Shueisha series with it's vol. 1...then again, Reborn and D.gray did.)

[Koshi_Inaba]

^Don't forget Mago and Toriko, both sold high from the beginning like reborn and D.gray

[Crude]

How well does Jaguar sell by the way? I've always wondered about that That, and the fact that there is no anime when Gag Manga Biyori has one.

[Xadyu]

After Jaguar's Live-Action Movie and Flash Series, it actually got an Anime Movie in January of this year, with an simultaneous release of an straight-to-DVD OVA

At least, that's what I remember. About the sales.. I have no clue.

[SameOld]

How well does Jaguar sell by the way? I've always wondered about that That, and the fact that there is no anime when Gag Manga Biyori has one.

Just a little under 150k per volume, iirc.

[Kaiten]

By gag manga standards Jaguar is a best seller.

Volume one is only worthwhile as a bench mark. Most of the new hits have all started out in the same range, 30 - 60,000 copies in the first week. Bakuman is an exception, since it was by such a famous duo it started out much higher than any of the other new series. There are exceptions, of course, a few current series started out lower but caught some breaks in the TOC. Psyren comes to mind, consistantly having multiple series that polled lower.

[Rejuvenation]

Do the new volumes go on sale the first week or second week of October?

[Kaiten]

Always the first week of the month.

I will be very disappointed if VIZ does not announce Neuro has been licensed at New York Anime Festival this weekend. They have not had their panel yet, hope remains.

[Majin_Reid]

2009 Issue 42
http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc75/th_31081_2009-42.2_122_75lo.jpg (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=31081_2009-42.2_122_75lo.jpg)

2009 Issue 41
http://img215.imagevenue.com/loc422/th_31087_2009-41.2_122_422lo.jpg (http://img215.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=31087_2009-41.2_122_422lo.jpg)


Working backwards, here are issues 42 and 41. Soon I'll put up 40 and 39, but that's as far back as I have for this year. So it's only onwards from here, with a few really old issues that I'll eventually scan. Enjoy~

Added! Thanks!!

[Koshi_Inaba]

Anyone got the cover for the new volumes of Mago, Toriko and Medaka?

[Maxy Barnard]

I feel i HAVE to point out to people that a) following amazon japans rankings is pointless and retarded, b) gin tama didn't have that many copies of the first volume printed and couldn't meet demands apparently and finally (because I've been gone a while) c) that there are fairly comprehensive explanations of Togashi's absence out there, including one by me, none of which involve mental illness and that generally dismiss other sorts of illness in light of togashi-ism at shueisha and his unfavourable working conditions in light of that.

also I return. SWEET CHRISTMAS!

[Kaiten]

Anyone got the cover for the new volumes of Mago, Toriko and Medaka?

Keep an eye on S - Manga and Amazonn Japan. As of yesterday they were still not posted.

[Mr. Prince]

Like promised yesterday, I can bring some good ol' covers from 2004 out there. I'll do it in batches of 10; so here is 1-13 (04-05 is missing since the cover got shredded in the mail. :'():
One thing that'll strike you immediately is the variety of series that got the cover back then...makes you wish this was the same nowadays.

WSJ #01/2004:
http://img248.imagevenue.com/loc465/th_70463_Jump_01_122_465lo.jpg (http://img248.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70463_Jump_01_122_465lo.jpg)

WSJ #02/2004:
http://img244.imagevenue.com/loc37/th_70466_Jump_02_122_37lo.jpg (http://img244.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70466_Jump_02_122_37lo.jpg)

WSJ #03/2004:
http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc1052/th_70469_Jump_03_122_1052lo.jpg (http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70469_Jump_03_122_1052lo.jpg)

WSJ #06-07/2004:
http://img228.imagevenue.com/loc142/th_70473_Jump_06-07_122_142lo.jpg (http://img228.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70473_Jump_06-07_122_142lo.jpg)

WSJ #08/2004:
http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc446/th_70480_Jump_08_122_446lo.jpg (http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70480_Jump_08_122_446lo.jpg)

WSJ #09/2004:
http://img215.imagevenue.com/loc192/th_71006_Jump_09_122_192lo.jpg (http://img215.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71006_Jump_09_122_192lo.jpg)

WSJ #10/2004:
http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc832/th_71011_Jump_10_122_832lo.jpg (http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71011_Jump_10_122_832lo.jpg)

WSJ #11/2004:
http://img270.imagevenue.com/loc533/th_71016_Jump_11_122_533lo.jpg (http://img270.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71016_Jump_11_122_533lo.jpg)

WSJ #12/2004:
http://img204.imagevenue.com/loc558/th_71023_Jump_12_122_558lo.jpg (http://img204.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71023_Jump_12_122_558lo.jpg)

WSJ #13/2004:
http://img46.imagevenue.com/loc217/th_71029_Jump_13_122_217lo.jpg (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71029_Jump_13_122_217lo.jpg)

[Rejuvenation]

So nice to see covers for Bobobo, Death Note, Prince of Tennis, and Ichigo 100%. Nostalgia is setting in.

[SameOld]

DN's cover is so... creepy.

[M-Hario]

◆EizHb38XPU ：2009/09/28(月) 02:16:28 ID:4sbOVr32O
小ネタ
・45ドベ５　鍵、赤星、めだか、スケ、べるぜ
・46巻頭＠　Ｃリボ


#45 Bottom 5:

Beelzebub
Sket Dance
Medaka
Akaboshi
Kagijin

#46:

Naruto (Cover + CP)
CP: Reborn

[Finestela]

686 ： ◆EizHb38XPU ：2009/09/28(月) 02:16:28 ID:4sbOVr32O
小ネタ
・45ドベ５　鍵、赤星、めだか、スケ、べるぜ
・46巻頭＠　Ｃリボ



2009-45 Bottom 5
Beelze
Sket Dance
Medaka
Akaboshi
Kagijin

2009-46
Lead CP: Naruto
CP: Reborn

[Siberia]

It's suprising to see Beelze being in bottom 5 and Naruto having a cover(?) n color page AGAIN for the next issue.

[[Cross]]

wowzers, quite a fall for akaboshi, Medaka remains constant Kagijin (lol) Sket Dance and Beezle don't have much to worry about, but the next cuts are going to be really amusing.

[Negative Syndicate]

If Akaboshi keep doing this low for next few weeks, it'll going to be end after Ryouzanpaku arc. And Medaka is still low. Well, looks like only their tank sell can save them now. Plus, Beelzebub has been not very high recently.

Plus, is there only two colours on issue 46?

[Rejuvenation]

Kagijin still showing no signs of life.

Psyren has the color page so Sket or Beelzebub dropping may have been a factor since it has been low these past few weeks. Not that I'd worry about either of them atm.

Akaboshi falls below Medaka this time.

I'm really wondering how HnS is doing. Only 3 more weeks for it to be properly ranked. I'm curious if it will be a dud or not.

[ruggia]

oh wow. i'm really amazed at Kagijin being able to maintain last place forever.... i don't think i've ever seen a series that stayed at that spot for this long without absolutely no progress.

Akaboshi dropped down below Medaka again. seems like its hope of survival is starting to faint.

[Drmke]

Well Akaboshi is back near the bottom...sadly I'm not surprised. Medaka is still pretty low and there is no hope for Kagijin. Sket and Beelzebub have become the new yoyoers.
[hr]

oh wow. i'm really amazed at Kagijin being able to maintain last place forever.... i don't think i've ever seen a series that stayed at that spot for this long without absolutely no progress.

Lots of series have bottomed out this long. Remember Hoopmen ;)

[sir_arles]

Like promised yesterday, I can bring some good ol' covers from 2004 out there. I'll do it in batches of 10; so here is 1-13 (04-05 is missing since the cover got shredded in the mail. :'():
One thing that'll strike you immediately is the variety of series that got the cover back then...makes you wish this was the same nowadays.

WSJ #01/2004:
http://img248.imagevenue.com/loc465/th_70463_Jump_01_122_465lo.jpg (http://img248.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70463_Jump_01_122_465lo.jpg)

WSJ #02/2004:
http://img244.imagevenue.com/loc37/th_70466_Jump_02_122_37lo.jpg (http://img244.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70466_Jump_02_122_37lo.jpg)

WSJ #03/2004:
http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc1052/th_70469_Jump_03_122_1052lo.jpg (http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70469_Jump_03_122_1052lo.jpg)

WSJ #06-07/2004:
http://img228.imagevenue.com/loc142/th_70473_Jump_06-07_122_142lo.jpg (http://img228.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70473_Jump_06-07_122_142lo.jpg)

WSJ #08/2004:
http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc446/th_70480_Jump_08_122_446lo.jpg (http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70480_Jump_08_122_446lo.jpg)

WSJ #09/2004:
http://img215.imagevenue.com/loc192/th_71006_Jump_09_122_192lo.jpg (http://img215.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71006_Jump_09_122_192lo.jpg)

WSJ #10/2004:
http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc832/th_71011_Jump_10_122_832lo.jpg (http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71011_Jump_10_122_832lo.jpg)

WSJ #11/2004:
http://img270.imagevenue.com/loc533/th_71016_Jump_11_122_533lo.jpg (http://img270.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71016_Jump_11_122_533lo.jpg)

WSJ #12/2004:
http://img204.imagevenue.com/loc558/th_71023_Jump_12_122_558lo.jpg (http://img204.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71023_Jump_12_122_558lo.jpg)

WSJ #13/2004:
http://img46.imagevenue.com/loc217/th_71029_Jump_13_122_217lo.jpg (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71029_Jump_13_122_217lo.jpg)

Awesome compilation!

In case anyone is looking for the 04-05 cover, I don't have HQ, but this LQ picture may be usefull in case you want to at least have the full set of covers...
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa49/sir_arles/cover04-05.jpg

[kewl0210]

Yeah, Kagijin and Akaboshi are both pretty much doomed. Everything else sorta has a shot. I can't believe Beelzebub is so low, it should be higher really. When it gets to the current arc it'll probably do better.

Naruto getting a cover again? What else is new... I wonder if there's any reason for it this time... I don't think Naruto's celebrating anything right now.

And apparantly Reborn's announcement is that there's gonna be an art book.

[salam-daim]

45 (05/10) :
Reborn (Couv, Poster Page Couleur + Annonce Art Book)
Ane Dokî, Psyren (Page Couleur)
Beelzebub
Sket dance
Medaka Box
Akaboshi
Kagijin
Jaguar

#46 (12/10) :
Naruto (Page Couleur)
Reborn (Page Couleur + Scoop)

#47 (19/10) :
Reborn (Page Couleur + Scoop)

#48 (26/10) :
Reborn (Page Couleur + Scoop)

Another scoop next week
and it will be for 3 next week

[Kaiten]

Kagijin is another Muddy/K.O. Sen/Chagecha/Asklepios: a series waiting to die. I feel sorry for it. Doesn't mean I bother reading anymore :)

Have to agree that Asklepios and Medaka's lives come down to tankobon sales. If either can move 30,000 copies or so next week they'll at least survive the next cut. Lilienthal needs to live, maybe Hokenshitsu will buffer some of the other new series. I'm not reading to much into Beelze and Sket being in the bottom five. They've been yo - yo'ing lately but the middle of TOC has been pretty volatile recently, nothing wrong with a series like that dropping for a week. Especially since most of what had been in the bottom five at the beginning of the year (ToRa, Eyeshield, Neuro) are gone.

[Crude]

Which chapter of Kagjin has been rated most recently. The series got unexpectedly better so I imagine it would maybe rise a spot or two like Akaboshi (though I don't think the Ryonzapaku arc has been rated yet).

By the way, I've like how Medaka's been going, although I'm waiting for it to prove itself different from Bakemonogatari and Ouroboros. To me all three of them are a little too similar, mostly the fact that they revolve around male high-school students and powerful, yet strange female students.

[ruggia]

Artbook? thats it?
thats the big scoop? i hope there's more to it.....

[BBB Banana]

Which chapter of Kagjin has been rated most recently. The series got unexpectedly better so I imagine it would maybe rise a spot or two like Akaboshi (though I don't think the Ryonzapaku arc has been rated yet).

By the way, I've like how Medaka's been going, although I'm waiting for it to prove itself different from Bakemonogatari and Ouroboros. To me all three of them are a little too similar, mostly the fact that they revolve around male high-school students and powerful, yet strange female students.

WOW I'm surprised that you say medaka is similar to bakemonogatari.

At least for me the two of them are completely diferent.

IMO Bakemonogatari is more mature and revolves around the main character's relationships while Medaka is about humans with superhuman capacities and is a lot superficial about relationships and life problems.

Please keep discussions about individual series to their proper thread. Thanks~~:)

[Xadyu]

Artbook? thats it?
thats the big scoop? i hope there's more to it.....

That's just one of the four scoops.

[Kaiten]

Please keep discussion of Medaka Box to the Medaka Box thread. (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48941) Any further posts will be deleted. Thanks :)

[predsfan]

How many weeks were there between Psyren's announcement of a character poll and the results (Psyren has had a poll, right)? I'm just wanting to know when I can expect more Mago color pages :p.

[Negative Syndicate]

I found information that posted in 2ch. Well, usually most of information from 2ch tends to be false, but first 8 or 9 information from "ジャンプ打ち切りサバイバルレース" based on true information and this one is included, so I'll upload it.


outはめだか・赤星・鍵・わじま
inは古味（学園ものらしい）・ねこわっぱ・ガラアクタ

Out is Medaka, Akaboshi, Kagijin, Wajimania
In is a series by Komi Naoshi (Looks like school manga), Neko Wappa, and Gara Akuta

You can find Neko Wappa in mangahelpers. And Gara Akuta is from Akamaru Jump in 2007. I only find one picture for Gara Akuta.

http://blog-imgs-21.fc2.com/s/a/d/sadaharu13/img221.jpg

[Xadyu]

I don't remember Psyren having a poll, I might've missed the announcement, but I sure didn't miss any results and I haven't seen any yet.

---

I don't think we can count those out yet, I don't know about Wajimania. But I don't think WSJ is going to cut Medaka and Akaboshi before they see any salenumbers.

About Kagijin, I can see it getting cancelled, okay, we don't have a volume for that yes, but that was the same with Meister, Muddy and K.O. Sen and I actually don't see much potential in the manga.

I haven't heared anything about those other manga, so I dont take this information true just yet.

[predsfan]

I don't remember Psyren having a poll, I might've missed the announcement, but I sure didn't miss any results and I haven't seen any yet.

Aghh, I don't read it but I thought someone mentioned that it had a poll. My stupid mistake then. Allow me to rephrase the question, how long does it generally take for character poll results to appear?


In is a series by Komi Naoshi (Looks like school manga)

OH, I hope this a truthful post then. I've been waiting for Naoshi to return. My hopes have been raised (only slightly though), let's hope they're not dashed :p.

[[Cross]]

lol, seeing the state of those 4 series, I find it amusing that they just decided to crush them all in one fell swoop.

[Drmke]

Kinda inclined not to believe that post about what's going out just yet especially considering there was a post form 2ch posted here not too long ago saying that the serialzation meeting wasn't till October 2.

Not that its hard to believe those four are going seeing as how they are the most likely candidates, but it still seems too early.

[Koshi_Inaba]

How many weeks were there between Psyren's announcement of a character poll and the results (Psyren has had a poll, right)? I'm just wanting to know when I can expect more Mago color pages :p.

Psyren had one in chapter 55 and the result came out in 65. It usually take ten chapters or more. Reborn and D.Gray took more than ten chapters. I think if Mago is following this route, the result will come out in december together with the release of the drama cd

[Kaiten]

Seems to early for cancellations, especially that many at once. Especially with, as Drmke said, tankobon for two of them coming next week. And why four out but only three in? I'll wait for some sort of confirmation before I believe it.

[Negative Syndicate]

I think the series that is doing really bad at ranking, the editors don't even see the result of tank sells. Akaboshi's ranking is pretty similar to Bokke-san, and Bokke-san got axed about the same day when first volume has released. And I think it was same for Amano's first work, Over Time. Akaboshi's ranking is really bad, it stayed in bottom 5 almost every ranking, and Medaka's ranking was also bad.

[fxu]

So Naoshi gets another chance, eh?

We are planning on doing the Neko Wappa one-shot, btw.

[Kaiten]

I think the series that is doing really bad at ranking, the editors don't even see the result of tank sells. Akaboshi's ranking is pretty similar to Bokke-san, and Bokke-san got axed about the same day when first volume has released. And I think it was same for Amano's first work, Over Time. Akaboshi's ranking is really bad, it stayed in bottom 5 almost every ranking, and Medaka's ranking was also bad.

It's not that I think it won't happen. It's not that I think it will. I'm just skeptical. I've been hurt before. Until I see (end) next to one of those four series and (new) in the preview for the upcoming color/cover I'll remain happily agnostic. In the meantime I hope this won't cause panic and angst in the thread. :tem

[Negative Syndicate]

It's not that I think it won't happen. It's not that I think it will. I'm just skeptical. I've been hurt before.

I'm also skeptical on the rumor, too, because both Medaka and Akaboshi are one of my favorite mangas. I think they both have a chance to become survive because Akaboshi finally established itself and Medaka has high chance to high tank sells.

I think we are focusing too much on fate of Medaka and Akaboshi because these two series are very difficult series to preditct their future. I still have no idea what's going to happen to them.

[Xadyu]

Both series are indeed unpredictable at the moment, the tank sales will enlighten the future of both series more once we get a good look at them.

However, I'm not skeptical at all when it's about Kagijin, how I hate cancellations on a quick notice, if this keeps up, it's definitely out before the streets turn white.

[Kaiten]

Kagijin is definitely out next, no matter when next cut is.

[ruggia]

I really hope the info is true.
i want more Naoshi!

[kewl0210]

You gotta realize Akaboshi was last many weeks in a row too. They lay give Kagijin a longer a chance. We'll see where it all goes.

And I don't think that thing you found on 2ch is anything but a prediction. Only stuff with the tripcodes on top are by official people, and the have to have the proper diamond symbol there, proving they're using a real tripcode, the interpreted password.

That one didn't have anything so they probably only put it in the opening this as "maybe true". Unless they match the user's ID code (ID:Vxp866mJ0) to someone else's who did use a tripcode... which I don't see that anywhere.

[Xadyu]

Akaboshi might've been last for a couple weeks straight yeah, but it has a higher chance of surviving the next cut then Kagijin.

Akaboshi's volume is dropping now, with a good rate of sales it's survival is decided, but I don't think they'll wait that long for Kagijin, it will probably end within 5 chapters.

[arsene.lupin]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4705/1252932443720.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/1252932443720.jpg/)

not really sure about this. Reborn and Toriko on the right panel.

[Xadyu]

That's know for quite some time now, I even said it some time ago in this topic.

Shueisha announced those (a bit later then their Yu-Gi-Oh! Special announcement), then again, I haven't seen an announcement of Naruto in the manga, Toriko even announced it in chapter 66, Reborn also announced it in it's Manga.

[kewl0210]

I don't remember seeing the October 12th thing though. They've been known to be in the JSAT, but that's something that goes around Japan, not so much having a certain air date.

[Negative Syndicate]

Is there only two colours on issue 46, Nartuo and Reborn?

[Koen]

Is there only two colours on issue 46, Nartuo and Reborn?

If we may believe raw-paradise.com: yes :)

[SameOld]

On the Akaboshi/Medaka subject, I think I should remind you (for whatever reason) that Akaboshi only got last place once, in its tenth week, related to chapter 3. Itr's not like having been just above To-Love-Ru (which it did several times) is a big deal anyway, but hey, it was not officially last place for these weeks. :P

As for this week's bottom 5... I'm kinda confused. I wouldn't be surprised if it corresponded to chapter 12, which was pretty mediocre. But if it's related to chapter 13... uh... anyway, I'll just wait and see how the upcoming Ryouzanpaku chapters do before passing down any judgement on whether Akaboshi's screwed or not. I still have hope.

[Drmke]

As for this week's bottom 5... I'm kinda confused. I wouldn't be surprised if it corresponded to chapter 12, which was pretty mediocre. But if it's related to chapter 13... uh... anyway, I'll just wait and see how the upcoming Ryouzanpaku chapters do before passing down any judgement on whether Akaboshi's screwed or not. I still have hope.

Its related to chapter 12. Next week is chapter 13's ranking.

[Negative Syndicate]

Its related to chapter 12. Next week is chapter 13's ranking.

No, I think it is correspond to chapter 13. I think you forgot add upcoming chapter 20.


If we may believe raw-paradise.com: yes :)

If it is true, then I think two colours are too short for one issue. I thought Jump always have at least three colours in one issue. Does anyone know any issue that had only two colours?

[Drmke]

No, I think it is correspond to chapter 13. I think you forgot add upcoming chapter 20.

My bad. I was thinking 19 was for this week.




If it is true, then I think two colours are too short for one issue. I thought Jump always have at least three colours in one issue. Does anyone know any issue that had only two colours?

I can't think of an exact issue, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it done before. Its not really a big deal, there probably just isn't anything they what to give color this week to except Naruto and Reborn.

[Negative Syndicate]

I can't think of an exact issue, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it done before. Its not really a big deal, there probably just isn't anything they what to give color this week to except Naruto and Reborn.

Yeah, I found it. The last time there were two colours are in issue 8 of 2009. But weird thing is that colour was for Gintama and one shot, Trigger Keeper.

[Kaiten]

I always thought two color spreads an issue was more common. Jump has just been acting funny this year. Sunday and Magazine rarely give more than two series an issue color. Even Jump rarely did it in 2007 and 2008, when three color pages happened it was kind of a special occasion.

[Majin_Reid]

God damn this cover, I don't even like Bleach and yet I spent more time than any other cover thus far cleaning/editing it~ >_<

So please enjoy~


http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc222/th_53016_2009-44_122_222lo.jpg (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53016_2009-44_122_222lo.jpg)

Added! Thanks!!

[Mr. Prince]

Hey there~ so, here's part II of "Time Travel with Shounen JUMP Covers - 2004" :tem
I played around a little with my scanner so everything's in much higher resolution this time (2500 px height should do, huh?). Again there's one issue missing of which I don't own a copy and that is #19/2004, sorry for that. :sweat
[Part I of the cover show (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1595411#post1595411) is this way, if you haven't checked them out yet]

WSJ #14/2004:
http://img240.imagevenue.com/loc519/th_66527_Jump_14_122_519lo.jpg (http://img240.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66527_Jump_14_122_519lo.jpg)

WSJ #15/2004:
http://img256.imagevenue.com/loc498/th_66530_Jump_15_122_498lo.jpg (http://img256.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66530_Jump_15_122_498lo.jpg)

WSJ #16/2004: (Jaguar celebrating its 149th installment is so random and wtf...I lol'd)
http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc523/th_66535_Jump_16_122_523lo.jpg (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66535_Jump_16_122_523lo.jpg)

WSJ #17/2004:
http://img270.imagevenue.com/loc175/th_66538_Jump_17_122_175lo.jpg (http://img270.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66538_Jump_17_122_175lo.jpg)

WSJ #18/2004:
http://img9.imagevenue.com/loc565/th_66541_Jump_18_122_565lo.jpg (http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66541_Jump_18_122_565lo.jpg)

WSJ #20/2004:
http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc554/th_67473_Jump_20_122_554lo.jpg (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67473_Jump_20_122_554lo.jpg)

WSJ #21/2004:
http://img266.imagevenue.com/loc449/th_67484_Jump_21_122_449lo.jpg (http://img266.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67484_Jump_21_122_449lo.jpg)

WSJ #22-23/2004:
http://img172.imagevenue.com/loc504/th_67487_Jump_22-23_122_504lo.jpg (http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67487_Jump_22-23_122_504lo.jpg)

WSJ #24/2004:
http://img195.imagevenue.com/loc1085/th_67491_Jump_24_122_1085lo.jpg (http://img195.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67491_Jump_24_122_1085lo.jpg)

WSJ #25/2004:
http://img264.imagevenue.com/loc173/th_67500_Jump_25_122_173lo.jpg (http://img264.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67500_Jump_25_122_173lo.jpg)

[Kaiten]

Any idea what series are on the cover of issue 15 - 17?

[SameOld]

Any idea what series are on the cover of issue 15 - 17?

First one is "Mikakunin Shonen Gedo" by the author of Jigoku Sensei Nube. It got axed, but still managed to last five volumes. The second is "Muteki Tekki Spin-chan" by Amon Dai. Got axed pretty quickly. No idea about the third.

Actually, Gedou was only from the artist of Nube.

[ruggia]

16 is Muteki Tetsuhime Spin-chan (無敵鉄姫スピンちゃん)
17 is Shōnen Guardian (少年守護神)

i'm guessing they all got axed.....

[Kaiten]

New Thread!! I've opened a Weekly Shonen Jump Cover and Color Page Archive (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53948) to keep track of back issues. Any one looking for old covers please check there! From now, please do not request old covers in this thread. I will carry over covers as they are posted to the opening post just as I do in this thread. I will move all of the 2009 covers out of this thread when issue 1, 2010 comes out.

[Negative Syndicate]

Just people who wants to know, Medaka is currently ranking 44th and Akaboshi is in 269th place. I think the ranking increase more when selling date is near, which tankouban for Medaka and Akaboshi going to be release this Friday.

[Kaiten]

It was mentioned before but the wild ups and downs of Amazon rankings are due to that relatively few people pre - order so four or five new reserves can push them up very high, or a few extra reserves by the items in front of them can push them down quite a bit. The differential is what I find most interesting, not the actual rank.

[Negative Syndicate]

The cover for October tankoubans are revealed.

http://shonenjump.com/j/comics/index.html

Akaboshi's cover looks good, but Medaka's cover looks bit boring. Plus, looks like there is first human in Mago's cover.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Mago's amazing as always, the color is really good.I like most of them, altough I agree Medaka's bit boring

[[Cross]]

I find it amusing that Medaka's cover doesn't even use it's own title logo. What the hell.

[Kaiten]

No room, Medaka's boobs got in the way :p

They should rename the title - Medaka's Boobs Box
They're bigger then Zenkichi's head :blink

[[Cross]]

I'm not surprised Akaboshi's cover trumped Medaka's. the colour art for akaboshi is quite good. Now this is funny, Akaboshi's cover is much better, but Medaka has much better pre-orders from Amazon, both elements which may or may not be relevant at all, how fun.

[Negative Syndicate]

;1598335']I'm not surprised Akaboshi's cover trumped Medaka's. the colour art for akaboshi is quite good. Now this is funny, Akaboshi's cover is much better, but Medaka has much better pre-orders from Amazon, both elements which may or may not be relevant at all, how fun.

Well, I think Amano's artwork is way better than Akatsuki's artwork. Amano's plot-making isn't very good, but everyone should know that Amano's artwork is one of top class.

I'm not sure this is just me or not, but I feel like most of axed series has really good quality of covers, as compared to early survived series' volumes, like cover of Asklepios and Hoopmen.

[[Cross]]

Well, I think Amano's artwork is way better than Akatsuki's artwork. Amano's plot-making isn't very good, but everyone should know that Amano's artwork is one of top class artists.

I'm not sure this is just me or not, but I feel like most of axed series has really good quality of covers, as compared to early survived series' volumes, like cover of Asklepios and Hoopmen.

I sorta meant just on this cover, I find Akaboshi's cover much more appealing.

[Rejuvenation]

Akira Akatsuki could have done better with the volume 1 cover I agree. It isn't as bland as Bleach covers but still could have done more with it.

Also Medaka's boobs in this are the size of watermelons almost. :lmao

Absolutely loving the Mago cover. Akaboshi's is good too.

[Kaiten]

Toriko's seems bland at first glance but the GT Robots are made of win. Mago covers are always great, this one is no exception. Reborn is epic fail but at least volume 26 has a nice cover.

[Xadyu]

Akaboshi's even better then I imagined, the cover that is, Medaka's as normal as I suspected, but what can you expect from that kind of manga.

I like this one too;
http://shonenjump.com/j/comics/img/cover/nurari7.gif

From which manga is this?

[ruggia]

I like this one too;
http://shonenjump.com/j/comics/img/cover/nurari7.gif

From which manga is this?

its Nurarihyon no Mago.
its pretty good. about a quarter youkai.

[Koen]

I have always liked the mago covers. And yet again, I like the mago a lot

I also agree with people saying that akaboshi's cover looks good. yeah it definitely looks nice

[pandaaqueen]

Reborn's cover is pretty neat, I love Amano's colourings <3

[Koshi_Inaba]

Byakuran in color look really cool. Eyeshield's cover is good, if only Monta and Shin also appears on the cover.

[Magicoreo]

Eyeshield! :)
I like it. It's the last tank, huh?
:/

[Koshi_Inaba]

Next month release:
Kochi Kame 167
NARUTO 48
Gintama 31
To LOVE Ru 16
SKET DANCE 10
PSYREN 8
Bakuman 5
Kuroko no Basket 4
Beelzebub 3

December:
ONE PIECE 56
BLEACH 42
REBORN！27
Nurarihyon no Mago 8
Toriko 7
Medaka Box 2
Akaboshi 2

[ruggia]

thats the last TLR volume right?
seems like Shueisha will be pocketing another huge profit with that, along with Naruto, Bleach and OP volumes.

[Koen]

I wonder if there's any reason why psyren's volume selling are always postponed to some other manga

eg:
mago 8 (currently at chapter 76) in december
toriko 7 (currently at chapter 66) in december
psyren 8 (currently at chapter 88) in november

-> so my guess: mago's and toriko's better selling rates must be the reason, no?

[Koshi_Inaba]

I don't think that's it, I mean Naruto also got postponed, volume 47 was released on August, but volume 48 will be release on November.So does Bakuman. I think they just release it whenever they want

[Googlez_kun]

I don't think that's it, I mean Naruto also got postponed, volume 47 was released on August, but volume 48 will be release on November.So does Bakuman. I think they just release it whenever they want

well in naruto's case it was because of the artbook!
in the month where the volume was supposed to be released,the artbook came out,so they released it one month later and now they release it only two months later,so they can get back to their old rythm

[Majin_Reid]

Here are the last 2 issues I have at this moment from this year. Moving backwards, issue 40 and 39. Enjoy~

Issue 40
http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc1159/th_39108_2009-40.2_122_1159lo.jpg (http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=39108_2009-40.2_122_1159lo.jpg)

Issue 39
http://img259.imagevenue.com/loc128/th_39102_2009-39_122_128lo.jpg (http://img259.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=39102_2009-39_122_128lo.jpg)




New Thread!! I've opened a Weekly Shonen Jump Cover and Color Page Archive (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53948) to keep track of back issues. Any one looking for old covers please check there! From now, please do not request old covers in this thread. I will carry over covers as they are posted to the opening post just as I do in this thread. I will move all of the 2009 covers out of this thread when issue 1, 2010 comes out.

Omfg~ Great idea!! Now someone just needs to make a website so we can host pictures bigger than 3 MBs... I'll post what I have of my 1996 scans soon~ :tem

Added! Thanks!!

[Kaiten]

I wonder if there's any reason why psyren's volume selling are always postponed to some other manga

eg:
mago 8 (currently at chapter 76) in december
toriko 7 (currently at chapter 66) in december
psyren 8 (currently at chapter 88) in november

-> so my guess: mago's and toriko's better selling rates must be the reason, no?

Mago and Toriko do sell better. Mago came out shortly after Psyren so they should be pretty close in number of volume. I think Mago was given a sped up (two months between) release last spring for some reason. Toriko had two volumes come out at once otherwise it would be two behind Psyren. I'm not sure how much popularity has to do with it.

[Maxy Barnard]

First one is "Mikakunin Shonen Gedo" by the author of Jigoku Sensei Nube. It got axed, but still managed to last five volumes. The second is "Muteki Tekki Spin-chan" by Amon Dai. Got axed pretty quickly. No idea about the third.

Actually, Gedou was only from the artist of Nube.

Do I hear the words Amon Dai? For what it's worth Muteki Tekki Spin-chan is great from all i've seen. But then I love Taizo so perhaps I'm just a fan of the mangaka

[Drmke]

Akaboshi and Mago's covers are just plain awesome :tem

Reborn's is also good, surprisingly. Eyeshield gets a pretty good cover for its last one, I'm pleased. And Medaka's is just....eh.

[Finestela]

Himajin's "Pop out because ToLoveRu have some news" ToC post:




956 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2009/09/30(水) 14:00:15 ID:Ekcdhvjg0
引退しているのにこきつかわんでくれｗ

45号

りぼん（表紙＋巻頭）
ぬるぽ
わんぴ
ぬるり
鰤
いぬまる
バクマン
リリエンタール
あねどき（センター）
トリコ
こち亀
保健室
黒子
わじマニア
サイレン（センター）
金玉
べるぜ
スケット
めだか
赤星
鍵人
ジャガー



2009-45

Reborn (Cover + Lead CP)
Naruto
One Piece
Mago
Bleach
Inumaru
Bakuman
Lilli-Dog
Ane-Doki (CP)
Toriko
KochiKame
Shinigami
Kuroko
Wajimania
Psyren (CP)
Gintama
Beelze
Sket Dance
Medaka
Akaboshi
Kagijin
Jaguar

[Kaiten]

Mago in the top 5?!! The world is a better place.

[Rejuvenation]

Mago is number 3 eh? That is quite a nice jump for it. I'm happy it even managed to beat out Bleach.

Toriko's and Bakuman's are pretty good too.

I'd love to switch Wajimania and Kuroko for either Sket, Beelzebub, or Medaka's spots in the bottom 5.

[Finestela]

Toriko's position, on the other hand... :p

[[Cross]]

What the shell, I guess miracles do happen.

[kewl0210]

Ranked list would be this, I think, if I remember all the rules right:

1. Naruto
2. One Piece
3. Mago
4. Bleach
5. Inumaru
6. Bakuman
7. Toriko
8. Kuroko
9. Wajimania
10. Gintama
11. Beelzebub
12. Sket Dance
13. Medaka
14. Akaboshi
15. Kagijin

Not much to comment on besides Mago is really high, for whatever reason. Naruto is ahead of OP for whatever reason... Bakuman is high this week and Gintama is low, but they both spin all over the place. Kuroko still fairly high, at the half way point. Seems it's doing ok now, though it tends to go down to the bottom few. Toriko's still like 7th rather than 4th-3rd like it had been a little while ago but they're currently in a side arc/ beginning of a main arc, still.
Wajimania isn't high or low, but it certainly doesn't seem to be failing. Still too early to really tell where the other new series are.

And Bleach isn't really going down at all, but it has enough of a fanbse with the anime and all to kinda be proof to even lowering much at all.

[Kaiten]

Toriko's position, on the other hand... :p

It's been a while since Toriko was auto - top five. I'll forgive Jump readers. I'm getting used to the middle being volatile.

[ruggia]

Mago beat bleach.... thats just wow.
Inumaru is always high. is it that popular?

[kewl0210]

Inumaru for whatever reason always gets that high, like the 5-7 range, with a few exceptions. Which is why I've been planning to translate it but Noodles keeps... not scanning the volumes and now V3 is coming out. Plus it's a gag manga so a lot of stuff needs to be looked up. I might try to get to doing a few more soon.

[BBB Banana]

GIntama is down there NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Well there's no need to worry since is gintama we're talking about.

[Koen]

I can not understand how naruto can beat one piece nowadays. I have never understood it when it happened now and then :)

Anyway, there's only 3 consistent top series: one piece, naruto and bleach. Toriko, Beelzebub, Gintama and even reborn sometimes fall down out of the top. Anyway, mago deserves to be rated high and I hope with current arc a consistency for that manga will be fact

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

I can not understand how naruto can beat one piece nowadays. I have never understood it when it happened now and then :)

Anyway, there's only 3 consistent top series: one piece, naruto and bleach. Toriko, Beelzebub, Gintama and even reborn sometimes fall down out of the top. Anyway, mago deserves to be rated high and I hope with current arc a consistency for that manga will be fact

Well the chapter rated would have been one of the Kage summit meetings which included Gaara and the new Kages and Gaara is pretty popular so...though One Piece was going through some pretty epic chapters, maybe editor influence.

[Drmke]

Mago in 3rd place just made my day :tem

[andrewsungchehau]

Just started reading Mago last week and I'm pretty enjoy.It just keeps getting better and better IMO. So I'm glad it ranked high.:D

[Koshi_Inaba]

Amazing TOC for Mago, but I'm not that surpised, just a few weeks ago Mago was number three for two straight weeks.

[BBB Banana]

Perhaps I should start reading Mago.

I don't know if this is the rigth place to ask but is TOC and jump related.
Was Hatsukoi limited axed or did it ended normaly? How were it's classifcations on TOC?

[Kaiten]

There is still controversy over Hatsukoi. Some say it was axed, others, myself included, believe it ended naturally. It may be that only the editors know. If I remember correctly the first half polled in the middle, the last half in the bottom five.

[SameOld]

There is still controversy over Hatsukoi. Some say it was axed, others, myself included, believe it ended naturally. It may be that only the editors know. If I remember correctly the first half polled in the middle, the last half in the bottom five.

If you read the volume 4 extras where Kawashita talks about the series while explaining the background story for each character, you can clearly see it was axed. And you can also see her editor made her do a lot of changes in the story, for that matter.

[Magicoreo]

Hmm, about the end of September, I'm guessing Naruto is not going to get the OP "10th treasures" treatment? I was looking forward to seeing other mangakas drawings of Naruto. :/

[Xadyu]

It would be a shame if Naruto didn't get to celebrate it like One Piece did, it's always fun to see anniversary's spent like that.

[Rejuvenation]

It would kind of say something if Naruto wasn't able to command that kind of respect from its peers when One Piece did despite it being #2 for years now.

If Naruto doesn't get that same treatment I'll just take that as the gap between itself and One Piece among the Jump mangaka.

[v3g374]

OP #2? WTF are you talking about?

[ruggia]

about Naruto #1 and OP 2nd,
well, Naruto has been pretty good these days, and even though i'm quite anti-Naruto, i liked some of the recent chapters. although i don't think they are no where as good as OP's current arc.

i'm guessing the reason lies on Sasuke and Gaara..... its sad how a series seems to get better ranking when the main character is NOT present. :P

by the way what exactly happened did on OP's 10th anniversary? i forgot. was there a massive color?

[arsene.lupin]

by the way what exactly happened did on OP's 10th anniversary? i forgot. was there a massive color?

One Piece 10th treasurer.

[salam-daim]

http://www.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/boyc/jpg/w_jump0528_h.jpeg

[BBB Banana]

Wow great cover for reborn! the lights and shadows are perfect.

[Rejuvenation]

Absolutely love that Reborn cover. Amano did great on it.


OP #2? WTF are you talking about?

Other way around. I'm saying One Piece being number one overall and the fact it apparently has the respect of most WSJ mangaka is part of the gap between it and Naruto even though Naruto is number 2.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

about Naruto #1 and OP 2nd,
well, Naruto has been pretty good these days, and even though i'm quite anti-Naruto, i liked some of the recent chapters. although i don't think they are no where as good as OP's current arc.

i'm guessing the reason lies on Sasuke and Gaara..... its sad how a series seems to get better ranking when the main character is NOT present. :P

by the way what exactly happened did on OP's 10th anniversary? i forgot. was there a massive color?

Huh? Naruto was getting ranked 1 a few times during Naruto vs Pain.

[Kaiten]

More than a few times, I think. Naruto has spent as much time at number one this year as One Piece.

[v3g374]

OP: 6 times
N: 5 times
And OP had a few weeks rest. Saying Naruto is the #1 is just silly. I mean god, look at the sales for heaven sakes. Sorry for the little offtopic...

It's a very cool reborn cover. What kind of extra reborn got in this issue? Is it worth paying for it? :P

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

No one is saying Naruto is the #1 in Japan....

[Kaiten]

OP: 6 times
N: 5 times
And OP had a few weeks rest. Saying Naruto is the #1 is just silly. I mean god, look at the sales for heaven sakes. Sorry for the little offtopic...


Naruto is number 1 in the TOC this week. This week it is Jump's number 1 series. That's all everyone is saying.

This weeks issue includes a Reborn poster and announcement for the art book.

[Crude]

Hope they'll still announce a movie! The've already done and artbook so what more?

[v3g374]

I understand. Thanks for the Reborn info

[Crude]

I really hope that Naruto gets its own 10th anniversary treasures. One Piece's were awesome and can you imagine how cool it would be to see Obata and Kubo draw Naruto?

[Magicoreo]

I really hope that Naruto gets its own 10th anniversary treasures. One Piece's were awesome and can you imagine how cool it would be to see Obata and Kubo draw Naruto?

Not to mention Oda!
Out of curiosity, when did 10th treasures come out? Weeks after OP anniversary date?

[Drmke]

Great Reborn cover! Never really thought I'd say that lol

And I hope Naruto gets at least something like 10th Treasure. Seeing Obata and Oda draw Naruto would be amazing :D....Kubo would just draw Ichigo in an orange jumpsuit :p

[Koshi_Inaba]

Most of the jump mangas has charted on jbook. Bleach and reborn on the top 5, mago and toriko not too far, Medaka on top 30, Akaboshi has not yet charted

[Negative Syndicate]

Right now in current ranking from Jbook:

Bleach at 1st
Reborn at 2nd
Eyeshield at 3rd
Toriko at 6th
Mago at 7th
Medaka at 23rd
Akaboshi at 27th

I think Medaka and Akaboshi are doing pretty well for volume 1, but I expected Medaka be in higher place.

[Estranho]

I don't know if this is the correct place to ask, but: how about we have a mobilization of we, fans, to improve this shameful small Shonen Jump Wikia (http://shonenjump.wikia.com/)?

You know, the wikipedia won't let we hold articles for small series, but would be interesting to have a big source of information about WSJ series.

(Yes, I know Baka-Updates/Anime News Network, but they don't have to much detail...)

[Kaiten]

Online tankobon sales are hardly worth following anymore. The books are out, Jbooks and Amazon sales ranks are hardly large enough to get a reliable idea of sales.

[Koshi_Inaba]

Jbook is actually quite accurate, most of the time if a series stay at a ranking during the week, on oricon they will have the same rank

[Rainier]

Anyone has a picture of this week's Reborn's poster? I really liked the cover too, aswell as the color spread.

[Negative Syndicate]

Jbook is actually quite accurate, most of the time if a series stay at a ranking during the week, on oricon they will have the same rank

If you're saying is true, then I'm going to be happy about Akaboshi because it is very high compare to amazon.

[Xadyu]

I just remembered something else from One Piece's 10th Anniversary, it got it's own museum, The Thousand Sunny Beach House (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/0/0b/TS_Beachhouse.jpg) at Kamakura.


To commemorate the 10th anniversary of One Piece, a special beach house was created in Kamakura. The beach house in question was made to resemble the Thousand Sunny. The beach house contains various One Piece related attractions and serves as a museum.

Now, if Naruto won't even get something like this, then Jump's prioritizing One Piece for sure.

Any news about Naruto's 10th Anniversary btw? Except for the anime special.

[Googlez_kun]

I just remembered something else from One Piece's 10th Anniversary, it got it's own museum, The Thousand Sunny Beach House (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/0/0b/TS_Beachhouse.jpg) at Kamakura.



Now, if Naruto won't even get something like this, then Jump's prioritizing One Piece for sure.

Any news about Naruto's 10th Anniversary btw? Except for the anime special.
what is the anime special anyway?are there infos on it allready?

[Akiyama]

Go ask and answer questions on anime in the Naruto forum, let's not go completely off topic. ;)

[Crude]

When's the Jump Festa then?

[M-Hario]

#45 HQ Cover scanned by [Ju-Ni]Vicissitude:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5448/katekyohitmanrebornch26.th.jpg (http://yfrog.com/15katekyohitmanrebornch26j)

Added! Thanks!!

[Ilcm26]

About the sales of Medaka and Akaboshi

Today I went to a bookstore to buy the new Jump comics and Medaka was already sold out.

I think thats pretty amazing right?

Sold out in only 2 days.

And the Akaboshi tanko is AMAZING!

[Xadyu]

Sold out doesn't mean anything in particulary, maybe the bookstore just had a limited amount of copies to sell?

[[Cross]]

Sold out doesn't mean anything in particulary, maybe the bookstore just had a limited amount of copies to sell?

No matter how you looked at it, the demand exceeded the supply.

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But if the booktstore only had 5 in stock, it doesn't say much, just saying for example. It depends on stock of the bookstore to be honest.

[Crude]

It really depends on the bookstore.

[[Cross]]

But if the booktstore only had 5 in stock, it doesn't say much, just saying for example. It depends on stock of the bookstore to be honest.

Certainly, but thinking about it logically, what's the least a bookstore, assuming it's a local one, would order? Seeing as they aren't too pricey I'd guess that book store would have a decent amount in stock.

[Kaiten]

Depends, since it appears to be a Japanese bookstore in Brazil, at least that is where the poster said he was from, it might keep a relatively low stock. The Borders I work at stocks a relatively high amount of manga, for any series other than the mega series (Naruto, Fruits Basket, Bleach, Rosario, Vampire Knight) we usually get no more than six in our initial shipment. That is referring to English language, of course.

[Galactic Tomahawk]

While I'm not rooting for Medaka's success (the opposite, in fact), it could be a scenario something like what Bakuman described for To-Love, where it's not getting as many votes due to the fanservice quotient, but still has somewhat of a following.

But I would prefer to wait for the actual volume numbers before saying anything for sure.

Edit: Especially with what Kaiten just brought up.

[ruggia]

well, if it was sold out while others like Akaboshi didn't, then it at least mean that its better than average.

and from my knowledge (or at least from the ones i've seen so far), overseas Japanese bookstores don't usually order tankobons of very new mangas. they only have ones that have at least 3 or 4 volumes out.

and he could still be in Japan even if his country is Brazil. I'm living in Middle East right now, but i'm still Korean.

[Estranho]

Depends, since it appears to be a Japanese bookstore in Brazil, at least that is where the poster said he was from, it might keep a relatively low stock.

In Brazil, we don't have any bookstore (at least in our largest city, São Paulo, that I know) that receive volumes direct from Japan.
I guess this guy is brazilian, but lives in Japan (and I think I know him, lol)

[Negative Syndicate]

I never seen lots of people interested on book sells. Medaka's and Akaboshi's tank sells is really everybody's center of topic.

Does anybody know which of these ranking, amazon and jbook, are more accurate?

[Koshi_Inaba]

From my observation, jbook is more accurate

[Negative Syndicate]

From my observation, jbook is more accurate

If your observation is true, then Akaboshi is currently outselling Medaka right now.

[Rejuvenation]

I never seen lots of people interested on book sells. Medaka's and Akaboshi's tank sells is really everybody's center of topic.



Probably because the one that sells less is the one more likely to be axed if it comes down to two cuts in November.

[Kaiten]

Personally I did find the pre - order rankings interesting, not as a judge of sales but as a (very) little window into demand. Now that the books are out I can wait until the Oricon ranks come out. I am very skeptical that Jbooks or Amazon are very accurate judges of sales as a whole, since traditional stores account for far more sales. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I really don't care that much about where they rank on either sight; I guarantee neither will make Oricon's top ten, neither will sell what the first volume of Toriko or Beelzebub did, and we'll still be going round and round wondering which one will end even though there is still a good five or six weeks before cancellations start.