Road To 2002 Roads 39-40 Discussion/Roads 41-42 Predictions

[10104]

Another weekends have arrived, with new chapters of RT2002 for our enjoyment. Big thanks to Shinji as usual.

And since noone has created a new discussion thread, I assume I will take the initiative. The rest is up to you all.

Barca - Valencia actually dominates road39. Takahashi gave this match a little more focus than I originally thought, so maybe something will happen there?? Like Santana manages to strike back and the coach Van Saal began to realize Barca may need more firepower and change his mind about Tsubasa?? :rolleyes:

[chaos_master]

So the highlights of chapter 40 are:

- Wakabayashi stopping Levin's Shot:
It is naive of Levin to believe he would score with a shot that has been known to Wakabayashi for an year or so. Just as SGGK was able to improve his skills, Levin should've done the same ... or is this just a test and the Swede is hiding something up his sleeve?
- Kaltz man marking Schneider:
Provided he is successful, Bayern will have to rely on Sho and Levin. But if they can somehow combine their shots one or two times (any more and Sho will have a serious injury) it should be enough for an equalizer. And why not a Fire-Counter shot? It would have to be outside the penalty area, but Wakabayashi shouldn't be able to catch it and Levin could do Sho's job of waiting for the deflection.
- The Santana VS Rivaul confrontation:
Nothing happened actually, except more filler material about Carlos' mother. But given the circumstances Takahashi has created, Santana will surely score.

[abo3omar]

Long time since the last funny thing we saw (Hyuga screaming on the phone when Sanae answered) Well not a very funny thing but it was nice Takahashi drawing himself advertising a previous release.

Santana needs team mates now I think..Rivaul forgot about the non-match-winning man to man fight, so if Santana has no one, I think HE will be the one to trace Rivaul now.

I liked Genzo and Kaltz's actions too..Too bad I know the match, but this action is cool.

And of course, thanx Shinji ^^

[fistsofrage]

Ever since natureza, santana's kind of gone down in my eyes but im sure he'll score against the barca defense otherwise he won't be able to bring out rivaul's fighting spirit.

[Shinji]

chaos_master: Levin's intention wasn't to score with his Levin Shoot. In fact, he perfectly knew he wouldn't score, but he expected Wakabayashi to punch his Levin Shoot like he did in the World Youth, so Sho could repel it, because it was the only way at that time for him to defend without being injured.

Can the Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou really work with everything? He was able to repel the Raiju 'cause he could reproduce Hyuga's move, however it's not like he can do the same move as Levin to repel the Levin Shoot. And if he just repels it like usual, it could severely injure his leg since it's naturally injuring arms... Maybe he can do it, but he'd need to kick it a certain way, just like Wakabayashi is punching or catching it a certain way, or just like he repelled the Flying Drive Shoot a certain way because of the rotation effect. As for repeling the Fire Shot... Well this shoot is a little old so we may think it should pose no problem to Sho.. Still...

From the looks of it, with Kaltz marking Schneider, it looks like Wakabayashi actually fears the Fire Shot. Schneider was able to score 50% of the time with the Fire Shot from outside the penalty area in the Youth days... And his shoot has improved in the World Youth (I remember Kaltz mentioning a Neo Fire Shot...). So maybe the Fire Shot has greatly improved and since it's probably just raw power, Sho may not have enough power to repel it.

As for Levin going for the deflection, I wonder if he can actually do that sort of thing... Sho's specialty shouldn't be so easy to pull off for someone who's not a copycat :)

Just some comments to keep the flood of messages going on... :)

[abo3omar]

I feel what u feel man =) We do miss some members who used to flood the pages & totally disappeared, and some others just pop up from time to time..

[chaos_master]

chaos_master: Levin's intention wasn't to score with his Levin Shoot. In fact, he perfectly knew he wouldn't score, but he expected Wakabayashi to punch his Levin Shoot like he did in the World Youth, so Sho could repel it, because it was the only way at that time for him to defend without being injured.I see I didn't write my comment correctly - I meant that Wakabayashi should be able to catch it after knowing about it for so long. Still, I expect something more from Levin and hope to see a new move of his.

From the looks of it, with Kaltz marking Schneider, it looks like Wakabayashi actually fears the Fire Shot. Schneider was able to score 50% of the time with the Fire Shot from outside the penalty area in the Youth days... And his shoot has improved in the World Youth (I remember Kaltz mentioning a Neo Fire Shot...). I think Wakabayashi and Hamburg don't fear the Fire Shot individually, rather Schneider's abilities as a whole. He could be as dangerous setting up Sho or Levin as he can be shooting himself. Without a doubt he is Bayern's strongest player and leaving him unmarked is asking for trouble. As for the Neo Fire, I believe it's just a result of Schneider improving his kicking power like Huyga did and thus putting the same prefix. It should be faster, although I doubt it would be on par with the Raiju Shot and Wakabayashi catches that.

So maybe the Fire Shot has greatly improved and since it's probably just raw power, Sho may not have enough power to repel it.After repelling the strongest shot at the time (the Raiju) I believe that at least for one or two attempts, Sho should be able to do a counter shot without risking a lasting injury.

As for Levin going for the deflection, I wonder if he can actually do that sort of thing... Sho's specialty shouldn't be so easy to pull off for someone who's not a copycat :):)Levin was shown to be a very skilled player - a team leader the likes of Tsubasa and Schneider, so I expect of him to be able to react to a deflection. He shouldn't be able to repel the ball with a lot of power like Sho, but at least send it in an unreachable part of the goal for the keeper. However, I think that even if Schneider and Sho combine their shots, the ball deflected by Wakabayashi will be too fast for Levin to react to.

[Shinji]

Schneider improving his kicking power like Huyga did
It should indeed be an improvement in terms of power... But, when Hyuga improved his kicking power, his Neo Tiger Shot reached the Fire Shot level. So a Neo Fire Shot should be much greater than just a Neo Tiger Shot.
Also, Germany scored 3 goals to Sweden while Japan only scored once... And Brolin was supposed to stop Schneider's Fire Shot like he did with the Raiju Shoot...


After repelling the strongest shot at the time (the Raiju) I believe that at least for one or two attempts, Sho should be able to do a counter shot without risking a lasting injury.
Remember that Sho was able to repel the Raiju because he did a Raiju himself to counter it. He can't counter the Levin Shoot by reproducing Levin's move, and although the Raiju Shoot is faster and more efficient, the Levin Shoot is much more destructive... Its purpose is to injure. So it should injure Sho on the first attempt. Unless he finds a safe way just like Wakabayashi.

It's probably the same problem with the Fire Shot, after all Sho broke his leg just with Cha's natural shoot... And I expect Schneider's Neo Fire Shot to be much stronger than Cha's.

[chaos_master]

Also, Germany scored 3 goals to Sweden while Japan only scored once... And Brolin was supposed to stop Schneider's Fire Shot like he did with the Raiju Shoot...Meaning Germany likely scored through teamplay. If it was thanks to the Neo Fire Shot, I think Brolin wouldn't have been able to play in the Japan game due to injuries :)

Remember that Sho was able to repel the Raiju because he did a Raiju himself to counter it. He can't counter the Levin Shoot by reproducing Levin's move, and although the Raiju Shoot is faster and more efficient, the Levin Shoot is much more destructive... Its purpose is to injure. So it should injure Sho on the first attempt. Unless he finds a safe way just like Wakabayashi.I agree about the Levin Shot being pretty much impossible to repel without causing injury, but my point was more about a Counter (Neo) Fire Shot. Judging by Salinas' ability to stop the Neo Fire and Raiju, I believe them to be of similar power, so it should be withing Sho's ability to do at least one or two counters. He did several in the game against Japan straight after healing and it took some 5-6 shots before he broke his foot again.

It's probably the same problem with the Fire Shot, after all Sho broke his leg just with Cha's natural shoot... And I expect Schneider's Neo Fire Shot to be much stronger than Cha's.I don't know details about Cha's shot power, but from what I can judge it should be at least of the normal Fire Shot's potency, if not stronger.

[Shinji]

Meaning Germany likely scored through teamplay. If it was thanks to the Neo Fire Shot, I think Brolin wouldn't have been able to play in the Japan game due to injuries :)
As we saw during the Japan-Germany game, Schneider is alway finishing a good team play anyway, and it's not like he injured every defender marking him (just poor Ishizaki). However, I doubt that Germany could have performed a team play since their playstyle was perfectly known by Sweden. I don't think Brolin could be injured by the Fire Shot either (his abdomens were specially trained for that), my point was that he probably missed it a few times because it may be faster.


Judging by Salinas' ability to stop the Neo Fire and Raiju, I believe them to be of similar power
We don't know for sure if Salinas stopped the Fire Shot. Maybe they just isolated Schneider like they did with Tsubasa.


so it should be withing Sho's ability to do at least one or two counters. He did several in the game against Japan straight after healing and it took some 5-6 shots before he broke his foot again.
But then again, the power of the Raiju comes from the move, not leg's power. To have a power similar to the Raiju, you can just copy the move, to have a power similar to the Neo Fire Shot, you must have similar or greater leg power. See what I mean?

[chaos_master]

We don't know for sure if Salinas stopped the Fire Shot. Maybe they just isolated Schneider like they did with Tsubasa.Even so, I doubt Schneider was totally isolated through the entire game. Given his similarity in skill to Tsubasa, he should have found at least one or two chances to shoot. Even if they were led by 3-4 goals by the time he got those chances, he would've been even more motivated to score so as not to leave Germany facing a humiliating defeat.

But then again, the power of the Raiju comes from the move, not leg's power. To have a power similar to the Raiju, you can just copy the move, to have a power similar to the Neo Fire Shot, you must have similar or greater leg power. See what I mean?Yes I do. But the end result is a shot with a similar pattern, so considering they are in the same team, Sho and Schneider would have had time to adapt to each other's shots, even if it meant Sho using the Raiju pattern only to boost his own shot power to match Schneider's. And in a game against the top keeper in Germany (and in the world considering the World Youth) you should be prepared with the best your team can offer in order to score. In my mind, that includes using Sho's countering abilities IF Schneider's shot alone doesn't do the job.

[Shinji]

Even so, I doubt Schneider was totally isolated through the entire game. Given his similarity in skill to Tsubasa, he should have found at least one or two chances to shoot.
If you're saying Schneider is similar to Tsubasa, then the only thing Schneider could have done was going back in front of his own goal, because it's the only thing Tsubasa did... Not to mention Muller was missing.


Sho and Schneider would have had time to adapt to each other's shots
If Sho could easily have the same leg power as Schneider, then Schneider wouldn't be that worth, don't you think? And if Schneider adapted his Fire Shot to the Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou that'd mean giving an easy ball to Sho, lessening the efficiency of the technique in the first place.


even if it meant Sho using the Raiju pattern only to boost his own shot power to match Schneider's.
Then they'd have a timing problem.


In my mind, that includes using Sho's countering abilities IF Schneider's shot alone doesn't do the job.
Well, Sho used his countering abilities in chapter 39. Not with the Fire Shot, of course...

But that was my point in the first place: this technique shouldn't be that easy to perform with everything. I mean: he broke his leg with Cha, he had to grasp the timing with Hyuga, he had to kick it a certain way with the Flying Drive Shoot...

[chaos_master]

If Sho could easily have the same leg power as Schneider, then Schneider wouldn't be that worth, don't you think? The difference is Sho can do this a limited time with his foot suffering damage every time. Schneider on the other hand doesn't have a limit to his Fire and possibly Neo Fire Shot. But to be honest, I think Sho got the grasp of Hyuga's Raiju very fast, with Kojiro even commenting he did so in 2 tries, compared to his month of hard training and the only reason he hasn't adapted it to his playing style is Takahashi not wanting too many characters to have it. He made it look almost impossible, unless it had one of the few top class keepers against it and having Sho do it would mean him having the scoring power of Schneider.

And if Schneider adapted his Fire Shot to the Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou that'd mean giving an easy ball to Sho, lessening the efficiency of the technique in the first place ... Then they'd have a timing problem. If they have been in the same team for a month, and they've probably been together even more, then Sho's adaptability which he proved in a single match against Japan should be enough to execute a perfect Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou on the Fire Shot without Schneider holding back.

[Shinji]

And the only reason he hasn't adapted it to his playing style is Takahashi not wanting too many characters to have it.
Actually, one of the reason is that it shouldn't be used too often since it puts a lot of burden to the leg. That's why Hyuga sealed it at first in the serie A. But on top of that, I guess that Sho only likes countering...


then Sho's adaptability which he proved in a single match against Japan should be enough to execute a perfect Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou on the Fire Shot without Schneider holding back.
Well, Sho had a great adaptability indeed, but what he did in that match wasn't against Schneider. Even if you consider that Sho could match Schneider's power, or find a way to do the Raiju on the Neo Fire Shot without causing timing problems, that he can solve whatever other problems it may cause...
Even with all of that, he still had his leg broken with Cha...
There's no way Sho would try that one with Schneider even during their trainings if there's such a risk for him.

I don't think that there is an easy way for Sho to counter special shoots without being injured, or a way for him to counter everything, even given enough time, he'd still have the risk of severely injuring his leg, or meet situations where he just can't adapt himself.

[chaos_master]

Well, Sho had a great adaptability indeed, but what he did in that match wasn't against Schneider.Well unless Schneider has made his shot something extremely fancy, Sho already proved he could handle all sorts of circumstances with his Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou. From the complicated execution of the Raiju to the great rotation of the Flying Drive Shot. And even so I think the Neo Fire is simply a faster, albeit more powerful version of his Fire Shot - no rotation or complicated execution pattern. Also, remember his first counter on the Raiju? He made a "normal" leg swing opposed to Hyuga's powered up kick and the ball didn't harm Sho. Not only that, Hyuga who had already been doing the shot naturally and should've been used to it's force was numbened, while Sho immediately jumped for the deflected ball. All this makes me believe (regardless of what you can say :P) that Sho should be well capable of performing a Counter Fire Shot at least one or two times without injuring himself. Doing it would be for the sake of beating one of the best keepers in the world and if he only has to do this in four games of the entire season (home and away to Hamburg and Stuttgard) then he shouldn't be threatened by injury giving his very strong legs.

Even with all of that, he still had his leg broken with Cha...And we know absolutely no details about that game. Nothing about Cha's shot power (effect?), about which Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou it was for that game (for all we know Sho might have done it several times before breaking his leg) or Sho's mastery of the shot at the time. So this is speculative data, as opposed to the most detailed game in which we've seen him - the Japan one, which I try referencing the entire time.

Overall, I think we've got our own views, both as treating this as a real story and as a manga, and we have arguments supporting them. But the topic does make for a great discussion and in my view - that's why we keep counter-answering each other :D

[Shinji]

Well unless Schneider has made his shot something extremely fancy
It's not a matter of effect, it's just a matter of matching Schneider's power to begin with.


Sho already proved he could handle all sorts of circumstances with his Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou.
But he didn't prove that he could handle Schneider's power. I do hope that Schneider's shot is more powerful than Cha's, and that would be enough to break Sho's leg.


Also, remember his first counter on the Raiju? He made a "normal" leg swing opposed to Hyuga's powered up kick and the ball didn't harm Sho.
Not seeing Sho suffer doesn't mean his leg wasn't suffering severe damages. I'm guessing that the acupuncture he used must have something to do with his performance.


Doing it would be for the sake of beating one of the best keepers in the world and if he only has to do this in four games of the entire season (home and away to Hamburg and Stuttgard) then he shouldn't be threatened by injury giving his very strong legs.
4 games ending up with a broken leg without mentioning practicing at least once before the games... And even in CT, keeping on injuring his leg is dangerous for a player career.


And we know absolutely no details about that game.
We do know quite a few things. We know that there was "a" clash, not many. We know that Cha's shoot is just a powerful shoot (as he did one against Saudi Arabia), and that their legs were crushed afterwards.
Oh, yeah, you have to think of Schneider's safety as well :)


But the topic does make for a great discussion and in my view - that's why we keep counter-answering each other :D
Yeah, seriously I don't really care who is right or wrong but at least it's more lively like that.

[Greytips]

Genzo can not be beaten by a ranged shot cause he's a monster right now. I doubt Kaltz can totally mark Schneider all game as he is the best field player on the pitch so we will no doubt get to see a Schneider vs Genzo matchup... and Genzo will win again. Genzo has to live up to his Hamburg hero status and prove there is no one on Bayern that can beat him 1v1. If Schneider was to beat Genzo 1v1 after Genzo rejecting the Bayern offer it wouldn't make him look "cool" at all.

When Bayern tries more combinations even Genzo will break, showing the importance of teamwork and love for soccer as a whole, a typical Takahashi.

[Stone2191]

just if i am right about fire shot and neo fire shot...
if recall the youth tournament...hyuga created the neo tiger shot to match the power of the fire shot or beat it...meaning the fire shot is already better than the tiger shot but might not be better than the Neo Tiger shot...which makes me think that..the neo fire shot is either less.more, or as powerful as the raiju shot...

waiting for the next Chapter :D

[10104]

The way Takahashi does it, looks like none of the previously known shoots will work. And yeah, Genzo has become some kind of monster. So I think the match will build up to a climax where Schneider plays a crucial 'final boss' role and scores. Not sure how, probably with a great deal of collaboration.

Also I think neither of the two matches will conclude soon and probably take at least a volume or more, so the fun will continue. New chapter should be around any moment, I will be waiting eagerly :D.

[angel1980]

I see we've had a lively discussion going on. Great stuff! :)

I want to point out that in Captain Tsubasa 3 (my favorite CT game), the Neo Fire Shot is considerably better than the Raiju shot (both seem to have similar blowing-opponents-away power but the Neo Fire Shot is harder to reach/touch/catch/punch; if you've played the game, you should know what i mean :p). I think the Neo Fire Shot is also more powerful than the Raiju in Captain Tsubasa 2 and 4 as well, although I don't play these 2 enough to really remember. So if we reasonably assume the game makers base the games somewhat on the manga, then maybe the Neo Fire Shot is superior. But we'll see, eh? (Hopefully!)

[Shinji]

After CT1, Tecmo games have an original storyline, so they are not really based on the manga... But since Takahashi was an illustrator/advisor for these games, it's safe to assume that they have some truth in them... Nobody can deny some obvious similarities between these games and the story of the mangas that came afterwards.

[abo3omar]

The only similiar thing I saw was Santana :blink What other things were similiar?

& I don't remember any Raiju shot in any game!

btw about the Raiju, it's nice that we figure out where the name of the pokemon "Raichu" came from :p

[Haruhi Suzumiya]

I don't remember any Raiju shot in any game!


In CT3, Hyuga creates the Lightning Tiger Shoot,so it's not the Raiju Shoot but it's pretty close

[angel1980]

The only similiar thing I saw was Santana :blink What other things were similiar?


CT3 follows the Junior World Youth (JWY) quite faithfully and it borrows some authenticity from the World Youth as well. There are some chronological inconsistencies between CT3 and the manga, but a lot of the key features are there. Examples: Diaz, Muller, Hernandez, Karlz, Pierre, Napoleon, Ken, Genzo in CT3 are almost identical to their manga versions during JWY; Schneider, Huyga, and Tsubasa are also very similar to their manga JWY counterparts, except they have a few shots that they have not yet known in the manga; the order of the international matches are also similar (Italy --> Argentina --> France and eventually Germany).



& I don't remember any Raiju shot in any game!


In CT3, Huyga can perform the Raiju shot after joining the second half of the Japan-Italy match. (In the manga, Huyga only has the Neo Tiger Shot during the corresponding match; however, that Huyga's strong shot is decisive in Japan's victory against Italian strong keeper Hernandez is accurate.)


btw about the Raiju, it's nice that we figure out where the name of the pokemon "Raichu" came from :p

:)

[abo3omar]

Thanx, but leave JWY aside..it was 100% in the first CT game, and I'm asking about FUTURE mangas and CT2+ similiarities, such as Santana, the only thing i find similiar.

That Raiju shot is a lightning shot as Haruhi explained and it is in CT5 too.

[Shinji]

Santana is indeed the most obvious, but he's actually not exactly the same than in the manga (His name being Carlos and not Santana, and some other details). His hair are brown in the manga, blonde in the movie, and red in the games :) (Well, not CT5 since the first volumes of World Youth and hollanda Youth were already out) Every similarity is not exactly the same as the manga.

CT2:
-Tsubasa, in Sao Paulo, plays against Santana, in Flamengo, during the "finals" of the tournament in Brazil, just like in the manga.
-The High school soccer tournament in Japan, with Nitta, Urabe and the others joining Nankatsu. The difference is that Nankatsu is meeting the old rivals and eventually wins.
-Against China, the Twin brother have a technique to do very high headers. In the manga, the twins became just one very tall player.
-Against Korea, there are two stars players, just like in the manga. One of them, Cha, uses the gouinna dribble, just like his manga counterpart.
-Tsubasa "creates" another shoot (Cyclone), this is an "upgrade" of the Drive Shoot, just like the Flying Drive Shoot (although the way they work is different), and the training sequence is somewhat similar to Tsubasa creating the "Sky Dive".
-The way Tsubasa uses the Cyclone (making the ball rotate before shooting), is very similar to what Tsubasa does in one of the asian preliminary match.
-The World Youth, of course.
-Their final match is against Brazil, just like in the manga. Although the players are differents than in the manga, every one of them is depicted as stars like the manga. Coimbra is making a surprise entrance just like Natureza, and both of them were able to score against Wakabayashi from outside of the penalty area, and are considered legendary misterious players. (One being the fabled "Super Striker", the other being the king of soccer).
-The Bunshin Dribble used by Santana is the Aurora Feint used by Levin, Tsubasa and Natureza. (it will even have the Bunshin name later in the manga)
-The swinging effect of Santana's Golden Eagle Shot in the manga is similar to his Mirage Shoot in the game.

CT3:
-Schneider uses the Neo Fire Shoot. It's mentioned by Kaltz in the World Youth manga.
-Hyuga creates the Lightning Tiger, the Raiju being a legendary beast coming from lightining, the similarity is quite obvious.
-Tsubasa is hurt by repeated uses of the "Cyclone". A bad effect similar to the Raiju/Sky Wing Shoot.
-The Top Spin Pass is used here by a german player.

CT4:
-It's somewhat the idea behind Road to 2002: Ct characters entering the world of pros player, with no age restriction (those players being slighlty different version of pro players of that time)
-The Dragon Tiger Shoot, a premise of the Handou Shuu Soku Jin Hou (mostly because of the Dragon).

CT5:
-Tsubasa leaves Sao Paulo for another Club in Europe.
-Tsubasa has to prove his worth to other players in here (notice the physical similarities between Gonzales and Carnevale?)
-Hyuga is in the Juventus and has a major setback in here.
-Final Tiger Shot=Wild Tiger Shot.

Plus some other spoiler-ish things I can't mention yet, or some things I forgot...

[abo3omar]

Yeah I now remember the Holland Youth players, and one other thing about CT2 we can see Soda and Nakanishi in the same team. I forgot all about the Japanese tournament. Thanx ^^ About the cyclone, I think it's more like the Levin shot. Coimbra's disappearing ball also makes me remember the way Naturezza's ball was invisible at first because of the sun. The Counter shot, similiar to Sho's shot, is also in CT5.

* Can you please remind me where and how the cyclone hurt Tsubasa?

* I only played the nes/snes games..Does Urabi get any specialities in later games?

* Can you post the spoiled similiarities in a spoiler? If u think it's better not to do so, then don't.

[Shinji]

Well, in those cases Tecmo just used what already existed: Holland Youth players were in CT5 because Hollanda Youth was already published, we already knew that Soda and Nakanishi were on the same team at the end of the Captain Tsubasa manga, and the Counter Shoot is what Tsubasa and Hyuga did in the Toho-Nankatsu match. So it's not like those details were premises of what was going to happen in the mangas, it already existed.

The Levin Shoot is just a straight shoot. The Cyclone is going up and down like the Drive Shoot, it's really an upgrade of the Drive Shoot. The idea behind the Levin Shoot is more like the "Murder Shoot" (in CT4 I think).

In CT3, if the Cyclone is used during the brazilian league, there is a cutscene with Roberto saying it puts a lot of strain to the leg. That's why Tsubasa comes up with a new way of doing the cyclone thanks to Diaz' Zenten Shoot, but Tsubasa still falls unconscious during the Japan-Germany match because of the previous shoots he has done.

Not really, there is a picture of Urabe's sliding tackle in the ps1 game but that's all.

Well, keep in mind that it may spoil you... So don't blame me if you're not surprised afterwards.
-In CT4, there are some details of Stratto's story (mostly with his injury and girlfriend) similar to Gonzales/Gakuto in Golden-23.
-In CT5, Wakabayashi will receive many transfer offers in CT5, just like he will receive many in Golden-23. Although he hasn't made his decision yet in Golden-23, in both case he has, or will make his decision because of Schneider (in the manga he will most probably join Schneider if Sanae's dream is true, in the games he decided to go to Italy since Schneider, his only rival, was injured).
-In CT4, Nitta went to Sao paulo, upgraded his Hayabusa Shoot, then learnt from Roberto's former coach in CT5. In Road to 2002, Nitta learns the Wakadoryu style in Wakashimazu's dojo and ugrades his Hayabusa Shoot in Golden-23.
-Wakashimazu improves his Sankakugeri in CT4. Although he doesn't have flames around him, his jumping ability improved with many uses of the Sankakugeri in Road to 2002, which makes him a good jumping striker in Golden-23.

[abo3omar]

Thanx ^^ I know most of them from your summaries, and I liked what I didn't know :p and your prediction is cool :p

[Blabble]

Urabe got a special pass in Captain Tsubasa on Mega CD.

[abo3omar]

hmmm..This makes me wanna play it again ^^ Thanx