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Gold Knight
September 19, 2006, 05:19 AM
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Anybody up for a good, bloody geometry class with Hidan-sensei...?

Well, sorry that it took so long for me to post my Comments this time around - especially since it was such a terrific chapter! One of the reasons I waited so long was because I wanted to have nice, clean images to work with too - but we were unsuccessful in obtaining the HQ Raw, unfortunately, so I had to make do with what we've got so far.

That being said, I'd like to thank Yume and Darion for their MQ scanlations - I used both for this edition of my Comments. I still felt like I had to do some cleaning of my own, though, especially where the blacks were concerned. Took me some time, because I wanted my review to look a little professional. But yeah, I'm a novice cleaner, but hey, I tried. ^^ The RAW was pretty terrible this week, huh.

In the meanwhile, we have a pretty cool chapter of Naruto to talk about! Lots of action this week, for a change. Please enjoy and comment away when you have time. :)

Disclaimer: I have to admit I was *very* sleepy and tired while writing this review. Please don't hold it against me if I'm a little too confusing in some parts. ;)


* * * Gold Knight's Ten Comments on Naruto Chapter 323: Divine Judgement...! * * *


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Well, that was the idea...!

1. There Can Be Only One...! Suppose I can't really blame Asuma for not taking the incentive to behead Hidan right off, considering there's probably not that many "immortals" walking around. ...or is there? Judging by the shocked expressions on Izumo, Kotetsu, Shikamaru, and Asuma's faces on the first page, though, I'd say nope, Naruto isn't like Highlander the movie, heh. Additionally, Asuma may have felt like he would be able to get some more information out of him despite his "critical wounds," so didn't go for a more instantly fatal move. Hindsight and all that...

I'm still somewhat surprised that Asuma and his team attacked as quickly as they did without analyzing the abilities of their enemies, though. But I can understand the strategy of trying to take one down quickly while he's still separated from his partner, I guess.

Watching Hidan flinch with Izumo and Kotetsu's weapons inside his body made me wonder just how much pain he could endure, though... even if he apparently can't die. He seemed to be suffering some pain at first, but still acts like it's just a minor annoyance. Reminds me a bit of one of his comrades, Deidara, although he didn't even express any pain when his own arms were taken off. Then there was Sasori, who was probably in tremendous pain when his "heart" was stabbed and bleeding, but he didn't seem to outwardly show it (and despite being a "puppet," he did seem to show emotion on his face at times, mind ya). Either these people have been trained to withstand incredible pain, much like real-life special forces agents, or they're just plain nuts...!

Could Hidan have something inside him that could be constantly healing him, similar to the Kyuubi for Naruto, or even Blade of the Immortal's Manji's bloodworms? If you haven't read that manga yet, Manji, the protagonist, has worms residing inside his body which pretty much makes him immortal, no matter how much he's hacked up. Well, Hidan's worship of a "god of slaughter" would still seem indicate that as being a possibility - though it may not be such a symbiotic relationship...?


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Well looky what we have here...!

2. Winning the Lottery...! You know, I really wonder if Asuma is gonna die now - because if he does, he'd actually be helping Kakuzu and Hidan. Asuma's own value, after all, as he said himself a few chapters ago, is 5 more million ryō more than his friend Chiriku's. Wouldn't that be even more of a threat to Konohagakure if Asuma's corpse were to fill out the Akatsuki's wallets?

Asuma should definitely keep that in mind as he fights these Akatsuki guys, because if they're unable to win, it would be far better for the safety of Konohagakure that they all escape, as Izumo suggested later on.

And yup, I did find Hidan's reaction funny here. "Oh nooooooooo, you freakin' mean we have to go back down to meet that creepy guy in the bathroom that's really a morgue again? Crap...!"

Of course, he still wasn't just going to take being stabbed lightly.


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Knock Knock! Wait, let me knock your head in first!

3. Sneaky Methods...! Such is the way of the ninja - jump on any opportunity you can get to deliver a knockout punch from behind! Hey, dirty tactics they may be, but they work. Occasionally.

Asuma's team were true ninjas against Hidan last chapter, and they had mixed success. Now we see Kakuzu trying to blast Shikamaru into the afterlife before he even knows what hit him. Hey, maybe it's all karma - could it be that the ninja gods want 'em all to fight face to face in the end, after all? Well, guess this IS a shonen series - heh.

In any case, Hidan wasn't kidding when he said that Asuma's team goofed up by starting with the wrong opponent. At least Kakuzu probably would have complied and died.

Just an observation here on Kakuzu, but it almost seems like he IS turning out to be a male Tsunade in how he seems to rely on high-impact punches as well. Just look at that rooftop after he had landed his blow! His speed also doesn't really seem up to par either with quick combatants like Sasuke and Rock Lee, because in this case Shikamaru did easily get away, even if just in the nick of time. Lucky.


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Hidan, you said the magic words!

4. Hoggin' All the Action. When you think about it, I don't blame Kakuzu so much anymore for tolerating Hidan as much as he has (even though he can't kill him anyway).

Hidan's been pretty much doing the lion's worth of work lately! Wasn't too long ago he used his jutsu in order to take down Yugito and Chiriku, both pretty formidable opponents. And even now after all that, he still insists that he take on Asuma's team all by his little self... again! Yes, and despite being impaled by two pretty wicked-looking blades, too! This guy must have as much stamina as Naruto does.

Hey, if Hidan wants to fight them himself, as long as Kakuzu gets the money, all's well in the end, right? Definitely was music to Kakuzu's ears when Hidan said that last bit about the money being his.

Actually, I have to wonder if Kakuzu often still butts into Hidan's fight, and Hidan was just making sure that he wouldn't this time. Kakuzu did indicate last chapter that he could act rashly sometimes...

Also, I wonder if part of the reason that Hidan wanted to fight is because he recognized Asuma and his group as formidable foes, and moreover, his religion wouldn't allow him to get out of such a challenge. If Hidan's "god" is like any crazy, bloodthristy evil deity in most fiction, then such a great sacrifice like a great warrior would probably be much appreciated.

Incidentally, that was bad-ass to see Hidan moving around even with two swords stuck through his guts. That's pretty impressive. And creepy.


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Welcome to 'How to Deal with Immortal Bastards 101' with Asuma-sensei.

5. Asuma's Risky Gamble...! Hm, looks like Asuma converted to being more of a risk-taker just in time for this fight, eh? How's that for a coincedence...! Heh. Don't you just love plot no jutsu? Hopefully it still won't mean his death, though...

Well, at least he recognized that the best way to handle Hidan was probably to take his head off, which I'm happy about. I would have hated it if Asuma's team had just fought on without that plan in mind. It's the best way to take care of an immortal that there is...!

Though I actually think Izumo had the right idea here, that they should have done a tactical retreat instead. Because here they are, facing off against likely a S-ranked criminal, with no guarantee that Kakuzu won't also step in at some point. Not to mention Asuma is somebody they obviously want right now. But I suppose they may never get this opportunity again in order to take them out, if they were to retreat. So, Asuma is right in one sense - if they're able to take down even one of them here, then that would definitely help their village out against the Akatsuki menace. But that's only assuming they're able to do that... guess Asuma must be feeling confident, then, hopefully.

Somehow, I still can't help but feel that Asuma is just looking to avenge Chiriku here, as well. If they've been good pals like Shikamaru and Chouji, there's probably a big part of him that really wants to do that.


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So don't gaze off at the clouds right now, ok, kid...?

6. A Sensei's Pride? When Asuma put all his faith in Shikamaru here in order to protect him from becoming a "sacrifical piece," I immediately thought back to when Kakashi put his own confidence in Naruto a while ago (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6333/narutoch257p11sst3.png) when fighting against Itachi. That worked out pretty well, didn't it.

Well, we already know why Kakashi was so serious about teamwork being essential - he knew that he'd be staking his own life at some point with his students being the only people backing him up. Same thing for Asuma here, now!

I don't blame Asuma at all for trusting Shikamaru. He's probably never worked with anybody else who can figure out a quicker way to get out of a situation than Shikamaru. And like I predicted a few weeks ago, Shikamaru IS the best hope that Asuma probably has for surviving this entire storyarc...!

Funny, though, how Kishimoto almost seems to be projecting into Shikamaru's face the anxiety of all of Asuma's fans right now. I think Kishimoto knows that with all the foreshadowing he's done so far that a lot of readers are definitely worried about Asuma's fate. So he's having the fans being able to relate to Shikamaru's feeling of misgivings here - nice writing, there.

One final sidenote - remember, Hidan's name is taken from the Japanese word for "rook" and Kakuzu's means "bishop." Something tells me we're meant for a grand shogi battle of sorts in life where Shikamaru will definitely have to fight them both at some point.


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Grand Opening: Charging Asuma, Flying Hidan! Anybody want tickets?

7. Drawing First Blood...! Ha, when I saw Hidan leap into the air and throw a hidden blade at a quickly approaching Asuma while avoiding Shikamaru's kagenagi tendrils, I couldn't help but wonder if Kishimoto had been watching any John Woo flicks lately!

Definitely an action scene worthy of being in a series supposed to be about, well, ninjas! I'm very glad that Kishimoto drew this display of martial arts. If you think about it, we actually haven't had very many battles typical of shinobi lately. Well, we've had puppeteer wars, a match of superpowered attacks, a clash between monsters, a crazed bomber, and a guy trying to mind-rape everybody else with his eyes. So, this battle was very refreshing and exciting. Let's see more of this stuff!


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O.K., let's have your blood with some fava beans and a nice chianti...!

So okay, let's recap the beginning of the battle. First off, Asuma charged headfirst into the fray and Shikamaru's trying to either capture or spike Hidan with his Kagenui.

And just how does Hidan respond? By cartwheeling backwards into the air and throwing a hidden small weapon at Asuma's face, which he promptly deflected. But in doing so, he can't avoid being hit by Hidan's three-bladed scythe - an attack that probably would have killed him outright if not for Shikamaru's quick thinking and Kagenui. In avoiding being hit himself by one of his shadow needles, Hidan had to pull the scythe away from Asuma while he hopped off the ground.

However, in drawing first blood, Hidan may be drawing a hell of a lot more as a result. (Dum dum dum!)

The action sequences here were definitely fun. No dialogue necessary. Everything was moving too fast for anybody to think. Very realistic and I liked that.


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So that's where all the ash went...!

8. Ashes to Ashes! Finally! Asuma shows us something else other than his trench blades. 'Katon Haisekishō,' huh? I think I kinda like 'Searing Ash Cloud' as the best translation for that attack. Makes sense and it's perfect for Asuma's character, too, as he's a heavy smoker.

Doubtful that's all we're seeing from Asuma, though. His 'Searing Ash Cloud' isn't going to defeat anybody, like Gai's Morning Peacock, (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2838/ch258pg1617mq0.png) except maybe Konohamaru... heh! In any case, I'm sure we'll be getting more eventually.


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What comes around goes around, huh?

9. That's Some Bad Mojo...! Well, we learned something about Hidan's "mysterious" technique after long last. Apparently, whenever he steps into the pentagram that he drew on the ground after having just tasted somebody's blood (or I assume, anything relating to their body), well, he essentially turns himself into a voodoo doll.

That is, any damage done to him will also damage the victim as well. Ouch! Quite the pickle Asuma's found himself in right now...

So how to get around this problematic situation? I'm guessing there's got to be a limit to Hidan's technique. The ritual seems very important to him, so I'm assuming if he doesn't get around to it before long, the jutsu will dissolve and he'll be rendered back to his normal human self (or at least as normal as he'll ever get?)

In the meanwhile, they've got to keep him busy and figure out a way to somehow put him out of action (perhaps using Shikamaru's Kagemane). At which point Kakuzu will probably step in, after all, when he realizes Hidan might not be able to win this battle.


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Hidan is a masochist alright...!

10. Reapin' What You Sow...! Heh, at first glance I did think of Hidan as a voodoo doctor (probably because of the ability he demonstrated just now), but he does look a lot like a grim reaper, too, doesn't he?

I do think this is a brilliant move on Kishimoto's part. Grim reapers still don't really appear all that often in manga or comics, so they can't be said to be too cliché at all. And I would've never expected it from Hidan, who I saw more as a priest (albeit a crazy one) than a deathbringer. Though it does makes sense as far as his evil religion is concerned. And then to make him look a bit like a voodoo doctor too... very cool.

Overall, his design here is a pretty creative take on the classic skeleton costume kids wear every Halloween, but less ridiculous-looking. Probably because he's still wearing his Akatsuki robe. Still definitely one of the cooler "skeleton" designs I've seen in comics...!


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Is this guy a guy, or a gal? Or... neither?

My Crackhead Theory: Oh yeah, still got this to do. Well, we know now that the Akatsuki has a skeleton man, a plant man, a mad bomber, and they used to have a puppet man. Katy and I had a talk about what the last unrevealed Akatsuki member might be like. I think that it'll be a female, AND that she may have some kind of healing power. The Akatsuki's like everybody else after all (despite their high tolerance for pain) - they need healing every now and then. I'm sure there'll be some kind of twist to it though - perhaps she usually asks for something in exchange for her healing...? "Hey fella, I've healed you, now you give me your fingerbone as payment. Yummy...!" Of course, that'd be kinda TOO much like Zetsu...

RATING: 5 out of 5 stars. After a number of low-key chapters, I was expecting this one to raise the excitement and it didn't disappoint. We got our first real action in a while, and to see Asuma and Hidan in the thick of it definitely had me cheering. I know I wasn't the only one. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Predictions: The next chapter will probably have Hidan in the progress of apparently "pwning" Asuma and putting his eerie power on display. Kakuzu will probably be commenting every now and then on how doomed they all are. Asuma and Shikamaru will be trying to figure out what the heck to do. We might get a little glimpse at Naruto at the end.

Credits: First and foremost, thanks to all the translators here for submitting their stuff! It really helped to clarify a lot of the dialogue in this one. Not often we see so much text in an action-packed chapter of Naruto, too! Thanks also to the MQ scanlations we got from Yume and Darion here. They helped in giving me some images that I could quickly clean myself, too. And finally, thanks to ALL OF YOU for being patient for this week's Comments!

Hope you enjoyed, and looking forward to seeing what you think!


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My sentiments exactly!! Comment please! <3

Strangehat
September 19, 2006, 06:00 AM
Great commentij, GK. Don't worry, I won't blame you for doing OP and Bleach first. ;D I am an all around comment enjoyer.

The thought that Bluehead Flowergirl (AKA Ponce, Blue's Clues and whatever else) is a healer actually occured to me too. It'd make sense, seeing as how the Akatsuki have a number of specialists in the organization responsible for several key functions.

Zetsu is obviously the intelligence operative and cleanup crew, Kakuzu is the treasurer, Sasori (used to) be the plant, then certain village specialists were notable--Itachi, for all his hemming and hawing seemed to offer intelligence pretty freely on Konoha, so it's not unreasonable to consider him the anti-Konoha specialist. None of this'll be new information I suppose.

However.

It also occured to me that Bluehead might be teamed up with the Akatsuki Leader/'Shiome'/Supremacy/M.C.. As opposed to say, Zetsu. Because it naturally follows that if the Akatsuki have a medic, it'd make sense that he/she (I demand it be a she) be positioned closest to the central authority. After all, if the Leader dies, I doubt anyone else has a summoning contract with Hell to use the Genryuu Kyuu Fuujin XD

.. Unrelated tangent.
Am I the only one who thinks Zetsu is like one giant plant positioned all over the world? Like, the Zetsus that we see are really just 'flowers' of a greater Zetsu plant?

You know, ninja flowers, but, still, flowers.

bax
September 19, 2006, 06:39 AM
Good as always... The best part would be your No.6. A sensei putting all of his confidence and trust in his apprentice, sure does have a nice ring about it. Finally, some formal approvement from ther sensei. Like the yalways said, trust will get you far. Sure, if Kakashi's trust in Naruto gave a good result and the preview of one of the strongest jutsu out there (Oodama Rasengan), why wouldn't Shikamaru? I like to see a more powerful variance of his shadow tecniques. After all, his shadow technique only shows us 2 of the attacking variance. Namely Kage Kubi Shibari and Kage Nui.

Overall, not bad at all... Although, I would not give this chapter as you do. I would prefer 4.. Keep up. Looking to hear about other chapters as well. Be enthuthiastic. RAW day is just around the corner.

Luckas
September 19, 2006, 07:45 AM
Ah, the long awaited Gold Knight's Ten Comments :D (Don't take me too seriously, take always all the time you need)
For me it's really hard to comment about action packed chapters.

Finally Kishimoto started showing us what is about Hidan jutsu and the way he fights and I think he dit that really well. First thing Hidan is only slightly affected by wounds should have been almost killing him, he show a good degree of ability in taijutsu and tracing a specific circle on the ground with his blood and tasting his opponent blood he inflicts to his opponent a part of the damage he took, maybe this ability works only when Hidan is in the circle he traced. After that Hidan's appareance changes and from his attidue that is bad news for his adversaries. I think this new jutsu is really fascinating and, even if it isn't completely original, I likes the ways it borrows elements from different source and combine them together. Immortality and the reference to beheading points towards vampires; the circle on the ground make me think to pentagram, black magic and demons; and for the kinda skeleton at the end I'll go with Gold Knight idea of Vodoo.

The brief excanges between Hidan and Kazuku was amusing and a very good way to show the little or null concern of the Akatsuki's members about Konohoa's ninjas. I love when words says different things on different levels.

An interesting point of discussion could be the speed of Hidan and Kazuku, I believe they could be clearly slower than Itachi and probably also Kisame, I consider them more oriented towards power and damaging moves and jutsus, or maybe they win their fights thanks to peculiar jutsus. Also Kazuku could have an unexpected jutsu of which we saw some glimples when he destroyed the fire temple portal before killing Chiriku and the monks.

And now the Asuma tactic, that's a tricky situation. For me the first point to consider is: Shouldn't Asuma team have been calling for reinforcements? Or at least consider this possibility before enganging the enemies even if there is a good opportunity to strike? They should know how dangerous are their enemies.
Said so, now they probably can't escape the Akatsukis so they must fight and Asuma tactic is okay: he engages the enemy, Izumo and Kotetsu protects Shikamaru, who has the possibility to analyze the situation and maybe think of a strategie to win this fight. This tactic could be also a way to Asuma to protect his teammates and to sacrifice his life to give them precious insights about the enemies. And in the end we'll see how much has improved Shikamaru and how he'll help his teammates. (reference to the end of save Sasuke arcand his chat whis Temari and his father)

I hope in the next chapter Kishimoto will explain the implications of the change in Hidan appearance.

midnight789
September 19, 2006, 09:00 AM
Deffinitely agree about the chapter, 5 out of 5. It was by far the most exciting in a long time. I'd also like to add that I don't think that was a hidden blade he threw at Asuma, it was the second blade that Izumo and Kotetsu had shanked him with. (The first one was cut in half by Asuma after their first exchange). I hate to say it, but I think Asuma's days are numbered.

ibra87
September 19, 2006, 10:16 AM
great comments GK =) a bit late, but definitely worth it.

Anyway this got me thinking about Hidan's jutsu. It could be that after tasting someone's blood, he would stab himself in order to kill that person. If that's the case then team Asuma are in for deep shit.

mageofdeath
September 19, 2006, 12:10 PM
yay!!! finally some deep insight on last weeks chapter, thanks for the good stuff GK!!!

sabyr
September 19, 2006, 03:35 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Zetsu is like one giant plant positioned all over the world? Like, the Zetsus that we see are really just 'flowers' of a greater Zetsu plant?

You know, ninja flowers, but, still, flowers.

i would really like to something like that happen. like in DBZ with the little cells or something.

anyways, great comments GK!

midnight789
September 19, 2006, 03:40 PM
great comments GK =) a bit late, but definitely worth it.

Anyway this got me thinking about Hidan's jutsu. It could be that after tasting someone's blood, he would stab himself in order to kill that person. If that's the case then team Asuma are in for deep shit.

I was thinking that too, but if it is that simple than there won't be munch fighting next chapter. Hidan will just stab himself, and there goes Asuma.

Iwanin
September 19, 2006, 04:12 PM
Though I actually think Izumo had the right idea here, that they should have done a tactical retreat instead.

Just a small note: first Izumo proposed to charge in together with Asuma. It's a bit of a misstranslation you have there, I'd wager, where he says "I agree." It should be "[let me charge] together with you."

It's later that he suggested the tactical retreat.

So Asuma thinks there'd be no point to attacking simultaneously with Izumo.

Anyhow, I really hope Asuma dies. Don't get me wrong: I love the character. I just think it's time for one of the good guys who's neither over the hill nor perpetually ill to die.

CupofDice
September 19, 2006, 04:25 PM
I love Asuma's elemental jutsu (The fact that he has one actually) (Also my favorite Katon :smile-big). It makes sense considering Yamato's, and Kakashi's revealing of some of their other jutsus. I wonder if Gai has something up his sleeve. Maybe even Sakura or Shikimaru? Hopefully Kishi won't stop with revealing what else these guys have up their sleeves. I also like what Asuma thought with "If precision isn't going to get me anywhere, then". It pretty much explains why he fights with two knives instead of just throwing jutsus at the enemy. I also really liked this fight. I can't remember another fight in the series where it seemed so fast (Like Gai, Neji, Lee, and Deidara), but where we got to see their moves (instead of being blurs). This just had a feeling of 'speed' to it. Like you said, a normal ninja fight instead of an epic battle. I really like Hidan's ability, plus all that talk with Kakuza makes sense now. I hope there is something else going on with Kakuza's ability, or else it will be pretty disappointing. That line Asuma said to Shiki has me thinking Asuma is dead and taking Hidan down with him. A pretty good chapter overall and I can't wait to get Japflap's HQ to look at that battle a bit better. It's still good to see Kishi expanding jutsus in Naruto's world. Hopefully he answers all of these questions he keeps bringing up.

Gold Knight
September 19, 2006, 06:26 PM
@ Strangehat



Great commentij, GK. Don't worry, I won't blame you for doing OP and Bleach first. ;D I am an all around comment enjoyer.

The thought that Bluehead Flowergirl (AKA Ponce, Blue's Clues and whatever else) is a healer actually occured to me too. It'd make sense, seeing as how the Akatsuki have a number of specialists in the organization responsible for several key functions.

Zetsu is obviously the intelligence operative and cleanup crew, Kakuzu is the treasurer, Sasori (used to) be the plant, then certain village specialists were notable--Itachi, for all his hemming and hawing seemed to offer intelligence pretty freely on Konoha, so it's not unreasonable to consider him the anti-Konoha specialist. None of this'll be new information I suppose.

However.

It also occured to me that Bluehead might be teamed up with the Akatsuki Leader/'Shiome'/Supremacy/M.C.. As opposed to say, Zetsu. Because it naturally follows that if the Akatsuki have a medic, it'd make sense that he/she (I demand it be a she) be positioned closest to the central authority. After all, if the Leader dies, I doubt anyone else has a summoning contract with Hell to use the Genryuu Kyuu Fuujin XD

Considering they're the last two unrevealed Akatsuki (I suppose the Leader hasn't been fully shown, either) I bet you'll be right - when either one appears, I'm sure the other will as well...


.. Unrelated tangent.
Am I the only one who thinks Zetsu is like one giant plant positioned all over the world? Like, the Zetsus that we see are really just 'flowers' of a greater Zetsu plant?

You know, ninja flowers, but, still, flowers.


That'd be kinda bad for Konoha. Zetsu could surround the entire village without anybody even realizing it... heh. I bet he'll be able to make bunshins out of plants, though.

@ baxteristic



Good as always... The best part would be your No.6. A sensei putting all of his confidence and trust in his apprentice, sure does have a nice ring about it. Finally, some formal approvement from ther sensei. Like the yalways said, trust will get you far. Sure, if Kakashi's trust in Naruto gave a good result and the preview of one of the strongest jutsu out there (Oodama Rasengan), why wouldn't Shikamaru? I like to see a more powerful variance of his shadow tecniques. After all, his shadow technique only shows us 2 of the attacking variance. Namely Kage Kubi Shibari and Kage Nui.

Well said ^^


Overall, not bad at all... Although, I would not give this chapter as you do. I would prefer 4.. Keep up. Looking to hear about other chapters as well. Be enthuthiastic. RAW day is just around the corner.


Thanks. I gave it a '5' because a chapter of Naruto hasn't excited me like this since Chapter 317, when Deidara and Tobi first encountered the Sanbi and Naruto approached Asuma for advice on wind. Overall I think this chapter was excellently done and couldn't have been done better.

And definitely waiting for the next RAWs! ;)

@ Luckas04



Ah, the long awaited Gold Knight's Ten Comments :D (Don't take me too seriously, take always all the time you need)
For me it's really hard to comment about action packed chapters.

Finally Kishimoto started showing us what is about Hidan jutsu and the way he fights and I think he dit that really well. First thing Hidan is only slightly affected by wounds should have been almost killing him, he show a good degree of ability in taijutsu and tracing a specific circle on the ground with his blood and tasting his opponent blood he inflicts to his opponent a part of the damage he took, maybe this ability works only when Hidan is in the circle he traced. After that Hidan's appareance changes and from his attidue that is bad news for his adversaries. I think this new jutsu is really fascinating and, even if it isn't completely original, I likes the ways it borrows elements from different source and combine them together. Immortality and the reference to beheading points towards vampires; the circle on the ground make me think to pentagram, black magic and demons; and for the kinda skeleton at the end I'll go with Gold Knight idea of Vodoo.

Agreed - you summed it up very well! Kishimoto did a nice mixture of elements for Hidan's design and ability. It's like he came from the Hidden Village of Black Magic, heh. Though I still like the idea of the Hidden Village of Religious Fanatics better >.>


The brief excanges between Hidan and Kazuku was amusing and a very good way to show the little or null concern of the Akatsuki's members about Konohoa's ninjas. I love when words says different things on different levels.

True, they weren't overly concerned at all.


An interesting point of discussion could be the speed of Hidan and Kazuku, I believe they could be clearly slower than Itachi and probably also Kisame, I consider them more oriented towards power and damaging moves and jutsus, or maybe they win their fights thanks to peculiar jutsus. Also Kazuku could have an unexpected jutsu of which we saw some glimples when he destroyed the fire temple portal before killing Chiriku and the monks.

Yeah, both Hidan and Kakuzu seem to be the slowest of the Akatsuki, funningly enough - but no less dangerous, though. But that weakness could definitely be exploited.


And now the Asuma tactic, that's a tricky situation. For me the first point to consider is: Shouldn't Asuma team have been calling for reinforcements? Or at least consider this possibility before enganging the enemies even if there is a good opportunity to strike? They should know how dangerous are their enemies.
Said so, now they probably can't escape the Akatsukis so they must fight and Asuma tactic is okay: he engages the enemy, Izumo and Kotetsu protects Shikamaru, who has the possibility to analyze the situation and maybe think of a strategie to win this fight. This tactic could be also a way to Asuma to protect his teammates and to sacrifice his life to give them precious insights about the enemies. And in the end we'll see how much has improved Shikamaru and how he'll help his teammates. (reference to the end of save Sasuke arcand his chat whis Temari and his father)

I agree, Asuma should have called for reinforcements. But yeah, it'll be good to see if Shikamaru has improved any.


I hope in the next chapter Kishimoto will explain the implications of the change in Hidan appearance.


I'm sure he will ^^

@ midnight789



Deffinitely agree about the chapter, 5 out of 5. It was by far the most exciting in a long time. I'd also like to add that I don't think that was a hidden blade he threw at Asuma, it was the second blade that Izumo and Kotetsu had shanked him with. (The first one was cut in half by Asuma after their first exchange). I hate to say it, but I think Asuma's days are numbered.


Ah, good point about the hidden blade, I think you're right. And ha, I hope not... :(

@ ibra87



great comments GK =) a bit late, but definitely worth it.

Anyway this got me thinking about Hidan's jutsu. It could be that after tasting someone's blood, he would stab himself in order to kill that person. If that's the case then team Asuma are in for deep shit.


Yeah, ouch. Again, the best defense would probably be having Shikamaru "freeze" Hidan again...

@ mageofdeath789



yay!!! finally some deep insight on last weeks chapter, thanks for the good stuff GK!!!


You're welcome :XD

@ sabyr



i would really like to something like that happen. like in DBZ with the little cells or something.

anyways, great comments GK!



Thanks!

@ midnight789



I was thinking that too, but if it is that simple than there won't be munch fighting next chapter. Hidan will just stab himself, and there goes Asuma.


Yeah, but Hidan will likely use his "hold" over Asuma to try to kill the others too first - I think he's probably a bit of a strategist himself, actually.

@ Iwanin



Just a small note: first Izumo proposed to charge in together with Asuma. It's a bit of a misstranslation you have there, I'd wager, where he says "I agree." It should be "[let me charge] together with you."

It's later that he suggested the tactical retreat.

So Asuma thinks there'd be no point to attacking simultaneously with Izumo.

Actually that was Kotetsu who said "I'll charge with you"/"I'd agree" and Izumo on the next page suggesting a "tactical retreat" but thanks for the correct translation ( I thought Nihongaeri's translation sounded better though as Kotetsu seemed equally as worried as Shikamaru, or maybe because he felt that Asuma wasn't thinking straight).


Anyhow, I really hope Asuma dies. Don't get me wrong: I love the character. I just think it's time for one of the good guys who's neither over the hill nor perpetually ill to die.


But why does it have to be Asuma :crying ;)

@ CupofDice



I love Asuma's elemental jutsu (The fact that he has one actually) (Also my favorite Katon :smile-big). It makes sense considering Yamato's, and Kakashi's revealing of some of their other jutsus. I wonder if Gai has something up his sleeve. Maybe even Sakura or Shikimaru? Hopefully Kishi won't stop with revealing what else these guys have up their sleeves. I also like what Asuma thought with "If precision isn't going to get me anywhere, then". It pretty much explains why he fights with two knives instead of just throwing jutsus at the enemy. I also really liked this fight. I can't remember another fight in the series where it seemed so fast (Like Gai, Neji, Lee, and Deidara), but where we got to see their moves (instead of being blurs). This just had a feeling of 'speed' to it. Like you said, a normal ninja fight instead of an epic battle.

Yep. I agree. The last fight I think we really saw something like this before was the Rock Lee-Kimimaro fight. Been a while.


I really like Hidan's ability, plus all that talk with Kakuza makes sense now. I hope there is something else going on with Kakuza's ability, or else it will be pretty disappointing.

There probably is - we did see his forearm also turning a different color when he broke the gates to the Fire Temple. Definitely more to him, don't worry. I'm just commenting on right now what he seems like the most.


That line Asuma said to Shiki has me thinking Asuma is dead and taking Hidan down with him. A pretty good chapter overall and I can't wait to get Japflap's HQ to look at that battle a bit better. It's still good to see Kishi expanding jutsus in Naruto's world. Hopefully he answers all of these questions he keeps bringing up.


Heh, but if Kishimoto answered every question right away, the series wouldn't be interesting if we didn't have any more to ponder about. That's the charm about Naruto - there's always something to think on more about. But I agree it's great to see him at least finally revealing more about Asuma - and in far more detail than I think many of us even expected.

Thanks all for reading and commenting! ^^

midnight789
September 19, 2006, 07:01 PM
I actually think Asuma is right in not retreating, Hidan and Kakuzu wouldn't let them get away. I believe their only hope is in the form of reinforcements, and if they don't get those reinfocements they are in serious trouble. Anywho, I see your point about Hidan waiting to kill Asuma (though if I we're Hidan I would kill him off as soon as I could because he is the strongest, and apparently the leader. then again I guess that wouldn't give as good a story)

EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT! After an epiphany and several moment's of clarity I realized that Hidan is actually a homunculus and can only die after his philosopher's stone is used up :noworry As for how he's hurting Asuma, I think the catch is that only damage Asuma inflicts himself will end up being transfered. (or that's his homunculus special ability. The ultimate mirror? :o)

glasskatana
September 19, 2006, 07:13 PM
Have to make quick comments. Will read over the others later.

Firstly, I don't think that's a small concealed weapon Hidan threw at Asuma, I think it was the sword that was stuck in his body. 0_o (notices that's already been stated...oh well.)

Secondly, there's still something very important about the jutsu we have yet to learn. Do all attacks inflicted on Hidan reflect themselves onto Asuma, or do they reflect themselves only onto the person doing the attacking? Secondly, is Hidan actually regenerating/healing or does it just take a hell of a lot more to kill him? Also, do attacks inflicted on one's self, get inflicted onto Hidan? (in which case I sense an attempted suicide like that of Kiba in the save Sasuke arc)

That's all for now. Good comments as always. Bye. :D

yeste
September 19, 2006, 08:39 PM
Exciting chapter,
Great review,
GK Cleaning (!?!!),
Started reading Death Note and One Piece(WoW!!!),
Cleaning FMA…. :)
Man, a loooot of stuff in happening here at MH, and I love it…

Very interesting reading this week GK!!!! And your chackhead theory is very interesting aswell…
Also, this is the first time that I’ve seen you give 5 stars!!!! Great!!!!

I’ll try to post some more serious thoughts on this some time latter…
This is just to let you know that I’m still reading and enjoying your reviews….

Gold Knight
September 19, 2006, 08:53 PM
I actually think Asuma is right in not retreating, Hidan and Kakuzu wouldn't let them get away. I believe their only hope is in the form of reinforcements, and if they don't get those reinfocements they are in serious trouble. Anywho, I see your point about Hidan waiting to kill Asuma (though if I we're Hidan I would kill him off as soon as I could because he is the strongest, and apparently the leader. then again I guess that wouldn't give as good a story)


Four can separate and some could get away - there's still only two of them to begin with. But yeah, I suppose it would have been very risky. Reinforcements - now would be a good time to summon some of these birds and send them off to alert the others, huh?



Have to make quick comments. Will read over the others later.

Firstly, I don't think that's a small concealed weapon Hidan threw at Asuma, I think it was the sword that was stuck in his body. 0_o (notices that's already been stated...oh well.)

Yeah, already been there XD Judging by the ring-hilt of the blade, you guys are probably right. Hidan must've broke it off at some point and just threw the hilt. Freaky.


Secondly, there's still something very important about the jutsu we have yet to learn. Do all attacks inflicted on Hidan reflect themselves onto Asuma, or do they reflect themselves only onto the person doing the attacking? Secondly, is Hidan actually regenerating/healing or does it just take a hell of a lot more to kill him? Also, do attacks inflicted on one's self, get inflicted onto Hidan? (in which case I sense an attempted suicide like that of Kiba in the save Sasuke arc)

That's all for now. Good comments as always. Bye. :D


Good thought about the whole attempted suicide thing. I hope that isn't going to be the case again though - like you said, we already went thru that with Kiba and Udon/Sakon.

Thanks :)



Exciting chapter,
Great review,
GK Cleaning (!?!!),
Started reading Death Note and One Piece(WoW!!!),
Cleaning FMA…. :)
Man, a loooot of stuff in happening here at MH, and I love it…

Very interesting reading this week GK!!!! And your chackhead theory is very interesting aswell…
Also, this is the first time that I’ve seen you give 5 stars!!!! Great!!!!

I’ll try to post some more serious thoughts on this some time latter…
This is just to let you know that I’m still reading and enjoying your reviews….


Thanks :)

HisshouBuraiKen
September 19, 2006, 09:02 PM
Well, as Shikamaru said long ago, an ambush gives the attacking party a huge advantage when done right, allowing them to take on a much stronger opponent. I too was really happy to see some stealth tactics used for once.

white silver
September 19, 2006, 09:03 PM
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Nice comments as always.

*Note: Check Hidan's Forehead Protector while he's somersaulting. Doesn't it look like the "leaf's?*

Reaver Reload
September 19, 2006, 10:36 PM
Great comments as always <3

I did however, notice something that needs a bit more attention. When Hidan somersaults, you can clearly see that he has a rope tether for his scythe. However, in mid-somersault, you can see two of them. That just sends off alarm bells, what is the purpose of that tether?

Gold Knight
September 19, 2006, 10:44 PM
Well, as Shikamaru said long ago, an ambush gives the attacking party a huge advantage when done right, allowing them to take on a much stronger opponent. I too was really happy to see some stealth tactics used for once.


Agreed -



[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Nice comments as always.

*Note: Check Hidan's Forehead Protector while he's somersaulting. Doesn't it look like the "leaf's?*


A bit, but you can also tell it's just three claw marks. Together at that distance they look like a bigger, cohesive symbol like the Konoha logo, but they're not.



Great comments as always <3

I did however, notice something that needs a bit more attention. When Hidan somersaults, you can clearly see that he has a rope tether for his scythe. However, in mid-somersault, you can see two of them. That just sends off alarm bells, what is the purpose of that tether?


I actually missed that. Thanks for pointing that out <3

Well, at least it's not like the rope is coming from his stomach (been there already with Sasori...!) Looks a lot of rope - I wonder how Hidan can handle the scythe so effortlessly. Hm.

glasskatana
September 19, 2006, 11:25 PM
EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT! After an epiphany and several moment's of clarity I realized that Hidan is actually a homunculus and can only die after his philosopher's stone is used up :noworry As for how he's hurting Asuma, I think the catch is that only damage Asuma inflicts himself will end up being transfered. (or that's his homunculus special ability. The ultimate mirror? :o)

You know what's really scary. That was the very fist thing I thought of when I read this chapter. No joke.

white silver
September 20, 2006, 02:50 AM
You know what's really scary. That was the very fist thing I thought of when I read this chapter. No joke.


[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]I also thought Hidan was about to do an Alchemist move after drawing the symbol on the ground.

midnight789
September 20, 2006, 08:27 AM
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Nice comments as always.

*Note: Check Hidan's Forehead Protector while he's somersaulting. Doesn't it look like the "leaf's?*


A bit, but you can also tell it's just three claw marks. Together at that distance they look like a bigger, cohesive symbol like the Konoha logo, but they're not.

I actually went to my Darion scanlation, and when I zoomed in on that pic It really looks like a leaf symbol. I think Kishi may have made a mistake. I'll post a pic of it zoomed in a bit.

Gold Knight
September 20, 2006, 09:47 AM
Okay, didn't zoom into it. I also went to check the RAW to see if it was like that. Funny, but it looks more like a leaf than even the Konoha symbol. Oh well - I guess just chalk it up to another of Kishimoto's bloopers.

kiddo7
September 20, 2006, 11:47 AM
Great awesome increadible chapter with matching comments.
I think I will coment only after the conclusion of this fight though. Right now I am still sorta spechless and i want to reread the chapter a few more times.
And just on the side, thank you for taking the time to make these coments for us every week. they make the week complete. on tues day the raw Bleach eps are released on wednesday the raw Naruto, then on thursday we get the raws of both mangas and around Sunday we get GK's 10 comments. It makes the wait between chapters and episodes that much more endureable.

venicia777
September 20, 2006, 12:26 PM
4, 9) Hidan hogging all the action- eh!!!
i am much more excited now!! that Asuma-sensei's chances of survival/escaping increased.

Hidan already said himself that his jutsu's are the slowest in the Akatsuki cesspool. If that is so, it means at least buying some little extra time for Shikamaru. and for shikamaru any little time for him to think is counter time- yay. At least, even if they dont win or kill hidan, Shikamaru will have some time on his hands to devise a counter- even if little.

i just hope Kakuzu doesnt interfere. till maybe another konoha team interrupts the fight or something else takes up his attention.

Oh really!! i love hidan's jutsus. It was totally unexpected. we have seen all the weird jutsus like MS or immortality jutsu. But this one takes the cake.

Hidan is finally my favorite Akatsuki- even if he dies (of course i dont think he is immortal)

Iwanin
September 20, 2006, 01:04 PM
Hidan already said himself that his jutsu's are the slowest in the Akatsuki cesspool. If that is so, it means at least buying some little extra time for Shikamaru. and for shikamaru any little time for him to think is counter time- yay. At least, even if they dont win or kill hidan, Shikamaru will have some time on his hands to devise a counter- even if little.


Actually, I think he was referring to his attacks with the tripple scythe thingy, and not his repertoire of jutsu per se.

If he is indeed a living voodoo doll (and all signs point to "yes"), he doesn't really need to be quick. How long can it take him to strike his own body?

Anyway, I love Hidan, too. Up to this point my favorite Akatsuki is probably still the late Sasori, but Hidan's a close second (followed by Deidara).

He's definitely meant to evoque the grim reaper. It's not just the look, you know - his weapon is a tripple scythe. If the grim reaper were a religious fanatic / California Surfer, he'd be something like Hidan.

venicia777
September 20, 2006, 02:33 PM
was it his jutsus were slow to execute or the attacks **scratches head**. thanks for the correction.

anyways, i think any degree of slowness should at least help shika somehow TO devise a counter. I am so much looking for Asuma to survive.

and i think what makes Hidan such a catch isnt more about his attitude but his jutsu- the grim reaper appearance is just wicked. another striking thing to me is that i never expected this in naruto- someone who gives himself pain to deliver pain to others aka voodoo/grim reaper hidan.

sabyr
September 20, 2006, 04:47 PM
i am much more excited now!! that Asuma-sensei's chances of survival/escaping increased.



i would think that they have decreased. it almost impossible for him to survive now. whatever physical damage hidan gets, asuma is also inflicted. when hidan got burned, asuma's arm burned as well as you could see. and they still want to take hidan's head off!

if they kill hidan, asuma dies. They lose the fight, asuma dies. No getting past it.

I think that is going to be the major internal struggle in this arc. Shikamaru's decision to kill Hidan at the cost of Asuma's life.

midnight789
September 20, 2006, 06:10 PM
i would think that they have decreased. it almost impossible for him to survive now. whatever physical damage hidan gets, asuma is also inflicted. when hidan got burned, asuma's arm burned as well as you could see. and they still want to take hidan's head off!

if they kill hidan, asuma dies. They lose the fight, asuma dies. No getting past it.

I think that is going to be the major internal struggle in this arc. Shikamaru's decision to kill Hidan at the cost of Asuma's life.

I actually don't think Shikamaru will make that decision, Asuma will. And while I do believe Asuma is going to kick teh bucket soon, he still has a bit of a chance. Take Sai for example, everyone (including me) thought Sai was gonna die and look at 'em now!

sabyr
September 20, 2006, 06:11 PM
I actually don't think Shikamaru will make that decision, Asuma will. And while I do believe Asuma is going to kick teh bucket soon, he still has a bit of a chance. Take Sai for example, everyone (including me) thought Sai was gonna die and look at 'em now!


sai wasn't in this type of situation. Asuma has almost no chance of survival

woush
September 20, 2006, 08:48 PM
is it me or shikamaru's jutsu is following hidan even if he jumps? or I'm not understanding something here...

Iwanin
September 20, 2006, 09:57 PM
is it me or shikamaru's jutsu is following hidan even if he jumps? or I'm not understanding something here...


It is. It's not Kagemane, though, it's different - Kagenui. If you'll remember, he used it to take out two of Sai's tigers when he attacked. So this jutsu in particular can somehow be projected into the air, but only from the ground.

midnight789
September 20, 2006, 10:03 PM
sai wasn't in this type of situation. Asuma has almost no chance of survival

True, but he was still in a situation where many people thought he was going to die. I don't know why I'm arguing this considering I think Asuma is going to die, but I'll blame it on the sugar >.>

Gold Knight
September 21, 2006, 02:12 AM
Great awesome increadible chapter with matching comments.
I think I will coment only after the conclusion of this fight though. Right now I am still sorta spechless and i want to reread the chapter a few more times.
And just on the side, thank you for taking the time to make these coments for us every week. they make the week complete. on tues day the raw Bleach eps are released on wednesday the raw Naruto, then on thursday we get the raws of both mangas and around Sunday we get GK's 10 comments. It makes the wait between chapters and episodes that much more endureable.


You're welcome :)



4, 9) Hidan hogging all the action- eh!!!
i am much more excited now!! that Asuma-sensei's chances of survival/escaping increased.

Hidan already said himself that his jutsu's are the slowest in the Akatsuki cesspool. If that is so, it means at least buying some little extra time for Shikamaru. and for shikamaru any little time for him to think is counter time- yay. At least, even if they dont win or kill hidan, Shikamaru will have some time on his hands to devise a counter- even if little.

i just hope Kakuzu doesnt interfere. till maybe another konoha team interrupts the fight or something else takes up his attention.

Oh really!! i love hidan's jutsus. It was totally unexpected. we have seen all the weird jutsus like MS or immortality jutsu. But this one takes the cake.

Hidan is finally my favorite Akatsuki- even if he dies (of course i dont think he is immortal)


I'm really liking him, too.



Actually, I think he was referring to his attacks with the tripple scythe thingy, and not his repertoire of jutsu per se.

Good point, I hadn't thought about that.


If he is indeed a living voodoo doll (and all signs point to "yes"), he doesn't really need to be quick. How long can it take him to strike his own body?

Ouch, yeah.


Anyway, I love Hidan, too. Up to this point my favorite Akatsuki is probably still the late Sasori, but Hidan's a close second (followed by Deidara).

He's definitely meant to evoque the grim reaper. It's not just the look, you know - his weapon is a tripple scythe. If the grim reaper were a religious fanatic / California Surfer, he'd be something like Hidan.


Again, agreed. Good point about the scythe.



sai wasn't in this type of situation. Asuma has almost no chance of survival


Sai certainly didn't have all the foreshadowing going on I suppose.



is it me or shikamaru's jutsu is following hidan even if he jumps? or I'm not understanding something here...


Yes, Shikamaru's Kagenui can now cause damage too. Like Iwanin said, he exhibited it against Sai's tigers. That was in Volume 32, which I reviewed here. (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=7369.0) I also included a pic there of where Shikamaru's Kagenui is attacking. :) ( For your convenience, this is the pic, heh. (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4555/kagemanezd9.jpg) Do I get a kiss? >.> )

Thanks for commenting all! Let's hope the RAW comes out soon :D

chaosenigma
September 21, 2006, 01:43 PM
Nice comments on the chapter, Gold Knight.

Just wanted to point out that Shikamaru's Kagenui didn't help Asuma against the scythe attack. What stopped the attack from being worse was Asuma's other hand stopping the scythe. The Kagenui barely kept up with Hidan at all, which made the battle all the more intense.

Gold Knight
September 21, 2006, 03:33 PM
Nice comments on the chapter, Gold Knight.

Just wanted to point out that Shikamaru's Kagenui didn't help Asuma against the scythe attack. What stopped the attack from being worse was Asuma's other hand stopping the scythe. The Kagenui barely kept up with Hidan at all, which made the battle all the more intense.


Yes, Asuma's hand did stop it but it would have dug in deeper if Hidan had not had to jump out of reach of the Kagenui. You can see him being alarmed and hopping away the next page, although he had already gotten the blood anyway. Would've been better for Hidan just to kill Asuma right away, though.

Thanks for dropping by ^^

LadyHatake
September 22, 2006, 07:25 PM
Watching Hidan flinch with Izumo and Kotetsu's weapons inside his body made me wonder just how much pain he could endure, though... even if he apparently can't die. He seemed to be suffering some pain at first, but still acts like it's just a minor annoyance. Reminds me a bit of one of his comrades, Deidara, although he didn't even express any pain when his own arms were taken off. Then there was Sasori, who was probably in tremendous pain when his "heart" was stabbed and bleeding, but he didn't seem to outwardly show it (and despite being a "puppet," he did seem to show emotion on his face at times, mind ya). Either these people have been trained to withstand incredible pain, much like real-life special forces agents, or they're just plain nuts...!

hm, yeah, Akatsuki seem to have a very high pain tolerance. Maybe leader is abusive, so they're used to it :oh


Hey, if Hidan wants to fight them himself, as long as Kakuzu gets the money, all's well in the end, right? Definitely was music to Kakuzu's ears when Hidan said that last bit about the money being his.

Kakuzu seems to be more concerned about getting money than anything else XD Greedy little sucker.



Also, I wonder if part of the reason that Hidan wanted to fight is because he recognized Asuma and his group as formidable foes, and moreover, his religion wouldn't allow him to get out of such a challenge. If Hidan's "god" is like any crazy, bloodthristy evil deity in most fiction, then such a great sacrifice like a great warrior would probably be much appreciated.
Hidan seeems to enjoy the whole fighting process, especially his lttle post-fight rituals and stuff. I guess to him the rituals are like what money is to Kakuzu.


5. Asuma's Risky Gamble...! Hm, looks like Asuma converted to being more of a risk-taker just in time for this fight, eh?

Well, I guess that's a good thing, since taking risks is about the only chance they have of getting through this ^^


I don't blame Asuma at all for trusting Shikamaru. He's probably never worked with anybody else who can figure out a quicker way to get out of a situation than Shikamaru. And like I predicted a few weeks ago, Shikamaru IS the best hope that Asuma probably has for surviving this entire storyarc...!

Shikamaru's ability to think fast is going to play a big role in this battle, I believed. We know already that it's fast paced, so they're aren't going to have a lot of time to plan anything.


Definitely an action scene worthy of being in a series supposed to be about, well, ninjas! I'm very glad that Kishimoto drew this display of martial arts. If you think about it, we actually haven't had very many battles typical of shinobi lately. Well, we've had puppeteer wars, a match of superpowered attacks, a clash between monsters, a crazed bomber, and a guy trying to mind-rape everybody else with his eyes. So, this battle was very refreshing and exciting. Let's see more of this stuff!

Heck yeah! I love the good old shinobi fights. While puppets and monsters and superpowers are cool, seeing ninjas usuing ninja techniques makes it feel more authentic and less overpowered.


The action sequences here were definitely fun. No dialogue necessary. Everything was moving too fast for anybody to think. Very realistic and I liked that.

Yeah ^^ I was glad to see some good action here. I think we were voerdue for a good battle.



8. Ashes to Ashes! Finally! Asuma shows us something else other than his trench blades. 'Katon Haisekishō,' huh? I think I kinda like 'Searing Ash Cloud' as the best translation for that attack. Makes sense and it's perfect for Asuma's character, too, as he's a heavy smoker.

Yay for variety XD. I love seeing new moves, especially from the more secondary characters. It helps make their character a little more interesting ^^ I think we'll be seeing alot out of Asuma pretty soon ^^


My Crackhead Theory: Oh yeah, still got this to do. Well, we know now that the Akatsuki has a skeleton man, a plant man, a mad bomber, and they used to have a puppet man. Katy and I had a talk about what the last unrevealed Akatsuki member might be like. I think that it'll be a female, AND that she may have some kind of healing power. The Akatsuki's like everybody else after all (despite their high tolerance for pain) - they need healing every now and then. I'm sure there'll be some kind of twist to it though - perhaps she usually asks for something in exchange for her healing...? "Hey fella, I've healed you, now you give me your fingerbone as payment. Yummy...!" Of course, that'd be kinda TOO much like Zetsu...

How'd we get on that topic, anyways? Oh, wait, you asked me about the geometry teacher caption, and then we started to talk about different classes the akatsuki would teach XD

<3

Gold Knight
September 26, 2006, 10:25 PM
Yeah Katy XD I love our conversations. Thanks for commenting <3333

Hm, well, this weekend's Naruto Comments might not be until Monday-Tuesday again. =/

But M7 and Ju-Ni just released Bleach, so I guess I'll be doing that first.[br]Posted on: September 23, 2006, 03:34:09 PM_________________________________________________* * *

Just a note here - sorry for taking so long to do my Naruto Comments for the latest chapter. Still haven't gotten all the images yet, and I decided to wait until tomorrow morning. I'll get it to you guys then. Better late than never, I guess...! ;) At least you guys will have something to read while waiting for the RAW, heh.

Luckas
September 27, 2006, 04:03 AM
Just a note here - sorry for taking so long to do my Naruto Comments for the latest chapter. Still haven't gotten all the images yet, and I decided to wait until tomorrow morning. I'll get it to you guys then. Better late than never, I guess...! ;) At least you guys will have something to read while waiting for the RAW, heh.
Don't worry Gold Knight, yours Ten Comments are worthy the wait.

Hope this means something in english :darn

kroden
September 27, 2006, 04:57 AM
One final sidenote - remember, Hidan's name is taken from the Japanese word for "rook" and Kakuzu's means "bishop."


Didn't know that. I'd like to point out that the rook is one of the pieces used to castle in a chess game. The other one being the king, the pain exchanging system seems logical. For those who don't know chess, castling basically consists in (almost) exchaging the place of the king and one of the rooks. It all makes sense, except that it suggests that Asuma is the king... at least in this situation (don't want to go in debating again).

Luckas
September 27, 2006, 09:18 AM
Didn't know that. I'd like to point out that the rook is one of the pieces used to castle in a chess game. The other one being the king, the pain exchanging system seems logical. For those who don't know chess, castling basically consists in (almost) exchaging the place of the king and one of the rooks. It all makes sense, except that it suggests that Asuma is the king... at least in this situation (don't want to go in debating again).
The reference is to "shogi", Japanese chess, check this links:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=6536.msg158552#msg158552
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shogi

kroden
September 27, 2006, 01:05 PM
Thank you for your reply and the links. In fact I did get that this was a shogi game. I was only pointing out another funny coincidence. However, it is always a pleasure to discover such interesting topics for me. I barely have time to spend on Mangahelpers. To me this is gold.