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Waveblade
April 04, 2009, 09:08 PM
I've been thinking lately about Matsuri and I started wondering if there are any other former drifters that cleared their cards and what they are doing.
Because it would be sucky for Nemesis Q if out of all the potentials sent only one was actually successful (Not counting the gang because they were clearly going to bit the big one until the intervention.)
Wowzers
April 04, 2009, 09:31 PM
I think of Matsuri as a failure actually. She survived but didn't actually accomplish much. Her greatest contribution to Nemesis Q's effort seems to have been the training of the current group of Drifters. The current group was who found out about the Wise. Actually, even now we don't know if the Wise created Psyren or just took advantage of it. They were working on the cores, that we know. Maybe the disaster was just an accident. Kind of suspicious though that Psyren encourages the development of psi powers.
As for other drifters... there may be others. Maybe someone has a key piece of info that the current drifters would find invaluable if they knew about it.
Koen
April 05, 2009, 06:11 AM
Well good question but very difficult to answer. Matsuri was a drifter and I don't think anything was said about a group of drifters she belonged too (though I could be wrong). Then again, those are the secrets and situations a shounen builds its story on. It might be possible there's more drifters than Matsuri but at this moment we only know Matsuri is as an older generation drifter.
Waveblade
April 05, 2009, 06:18 AM
We do know that in the time period where Amemiya was the only known travelling that there were others that had been playing the game for multiple rounds. As they knew that the monsters were called Tavoo and told her that but it appears that those were cut down over time.
Koen
April 05, 2009, 06:28 AM
We do know that in the time period where Amemiya was the only known travelling that there were others that had been playing the game for multiple rounds. As they knew that the monsters were called Tavoo and told her that but it appears that those were cut down over time.
Yes and we musn't forget Koper. The husband of granny, he was a drifter too iirc. Though I do not know if has a drifter in another period or the same period as Matsuri. It seems Q started this game a long time ago
Waveblade
April 05, 2009, 06:51 AM
I think he may have been one of the first as I don't think the rule of 'Don't speak to outsiders on pain of death' was well known.
And as far as we know the only natural psychicer that was selected. Think about it wouldn't it make sense at first to choose capable psychics? But maybe Nemesis Q's program was changed after the first few rounds to seek those with latent ability instead.
unok-kun
April 05, 2009, 08:31 AM
Actually, if I'm not wrong, the game started in 1999 or later, since the world destruction is in 2009 and Nemesis Q's ability allows to go 10 years in the future/past.
So the game has just been going for 10 years, no more.
And I think granny's husband did know about the rule, he just wanted to tell her.
Koen
April 05, 2009, 09:27 AM
Actually, if I'm not wrong, the game started in 1999 or later, since the world destruction is in 2009 and Nemesis Q's ability allows to go 10 years in the future/past.
So the game has just been going for 10 years, no more.
And I think granny's husband did know about the rule, he just wanted to tell her.
But I wonder why he wanted to tell if both had the power to do this secretly. If one can foresee the future and foresee the future world and the other one can read minds. As soon as elmore was thinking about psyren then Koper would have known that.
Anyway sorry to go a bit off topic but at this moment the drifters we know:
-> Koper (dead), Matsuri (ended game), Asaga, Kabuto, Ageha and Oboro (still playing the game) and lots of other people who died. So my question in this thread: what's the role of drifters who ended this game? Like Matsuri, it is safe to assume they should fight the WISE too, no?
Wowzers
April 05, 2009, 10:48 AM
Those that survive can form the war party when the truth is known. They will be the ones to act on the info in the present. Or at least they will beef up the ranks of the current drifters when the time comes to act in the present.
shouryuujo
April 06, 2009, 08:37 AM
i think the survivors might have teamed together like the others BUT since they cant talk to anyone in the real world and there's no realistic way to find other drifters so it is difficult to do anything in the real world assuming they pass psyren.
Koen
April 06, 2009, 11:07 AM
Well I think the only survivors at this moment are strangely Psychicers. We only know 8 drifters (oboro, kabuto, amamiya, ageha, asaga, tatsuo, matsuri and Koper). One of them died (Koper). Tatsuo can not go back (iirc: he lost his card, no?) and somehow the other six drifters are missing during the declaration of war. Since the awful destruction of the world is psychicers' work (read: the wise), I believe that nemesis Q is a program of a gang of psychicers (read: the resistance) who survived the declaration of war. To fight the evil psychicers, it might be they only trust humans with a great potential of psy power - their drifters. Or maybe they can only choose humans for reason.
boemshiika
April 15, 2009, 07:17 PM
there's a difference between clearing the game and surviving the game. just by managing to survive the game by using up all your credit. doesn't mean you finished the game. the game will go on until someone manages to defeat the wise (council of elders) altogether (in the future). this automatically means you're more than strong enough to oppose (the present) WISE.
so did matsuri clear the game? NO she only survived the game (barely).
the whole Q and time traveling thing is a program designed to gather up soldiers strong enough to stand up to the (present) wise.
keater
April 22, 2009, 12:50 PM
Time travel is hard... Obviously time travel here can be done in a set time (10 years I think), because they don't return to the same moment in time over and over again. I'm actually more interested in something else. The first and second time we saw the gang going to Psyren, there were a lot of other people around the mains. The next two ones there weren't any other people. That might mean that Nemesis Q was looking for people with specific skills (or some other factor) and has found them in the face of the main characters. This might mean that all the past drifters were just people who didn't cut it and in the best case scenario survived. All of the main characters are commented to have learned faster than normal and/or have extraordinary or rare psy powers. Ageha has even been hinted to get special attention from Nemesis Q. Only a theory though.
digitaldude
April 22, 2009, 03:35 PM
There could be drifters in other cities. Matsuri said mission will begin in two weeks(I assume that`s the average) so she could have take less than a year to complete psyren and if psyren project is 10 years old theres bound to be other drifters.
Onomatopoeia
April 26, 2009, 05:29 PM
Their are in all likelyhood other drifters but I don't see how we would ever see them. They can't talk to anyone about whats going to happen.
Its possible we might meet some in Root who Ageha and Co. will then find in the past.
hai_Priesty
April 26, 2009, 10:29 PM
Or Matsuri sensei did possibly know of some other drifter (probably 1 i nthat case).
Just that not everyone is righteous or willing to sacrifice their live for stopping WISE. So she never introduced him to Amamiya.
Just a thought, I have quite often though there might be a former Drifter character that survived and cleared but was currently in trauma (or Denial) state and became Hikkikomori (people that do not step outside their home at all.)
Waveblade
April 26, 2009, 10:43 PM
I think it'd be fascinating if they did explore that. I'm also thinking it might be possible that a few drifters actually have committed suicide.
Koen
May 13, 2009, 05:07 PM
Matsuri is also dead. Somehow it might be our current drifters are lucky. They weren't supposed to be during the war but because they changed the flow they survived their part. I do wonder if they will face death like our former drifters: because the future itself didn't change yet
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