FMA Brotherhood Episode Discussion Thread

[eni]

So, I'm just back from watching it live and nearly forgot about the very first episode discussion thread :XD

The raw isn't out yet for download but I thought I give a short heads up for the spoiler fans. This post will be updated with download links as soon as they appear. First raw is out :amuse

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JAPANESE RAWS
[HorribleRaws] 214 MB *.wmv (640x360) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57473)
[TV-J] 400 MB *.avi (1280x720 DivX6.83) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57482)
[TV-J] 338 MB *.mp4 (1440x810 x264+AAC D-TBS) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57486)
195 MB *.mp4 (x264 1280x720) (http://bt.dm258.cn/down.php?date=1238961018&hash=3678cf9fa20e8865acdb3c37536e3eca18d6968a)
[gSS]​ 1700 MB *.ts (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=57552) ~if you don't know what *.ts is, you really don't need this
[Zero-Raws] 280MB *.mp4 (D-TBS x264 AAC 1280x720) (http://www.anirena.com/viewtracker.php?action=download&id=21489)
400 MB *.avi (HDTV 1280X720 MP3 DX6.83) (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BBR-RAWS%5DFull%20Metal%20Brotherhood%20(2009)%20%5B01%5D%5BHDTV%5D%5B1280X720%5D%5BMP3%5D%5BDX6.83%5D%5BD0B4E2B5%5D.torrent)
[Leopard-Raws] 280 MB *.mp4 (D-TBS x264 AAC 1280x720) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57562)
[MoscowGolem] 204 MB *.avi (D-TBS 704x396 DivX6.​8.​5 24fps) (http://www.anirena.com/viewtracker.php?action=download&id=21519)
[FLR RAWS] 380 MB *.mkv (1280x720 AC3 AVC H264) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57682)
[Zero-Raws] 2470 MB *.ts (1440x1080) (http://www.anirena.com/viewtracker.php?action=download&id=21536) ~if you don't know what *.ts is, you really don't need this
Youtube [p1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqxDwCH9lvg)] [p2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhATCnPfEQ)] [p3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ZsECuk7vs)] ~down

[b]ENGLISH FANSUBS
[Shinsen-Subs]​ 350 MB *.mkv (1280x720​ H​.264​ AAC) (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Fullmetal_Alchemist_2_-_Brotherhood_-_01_%5B1280x720_H.264_AAC%5D%5BBAE6EB94%5D.mkv.torrent) ~down
[Shinsen-Subs]​ 200 MB *.mkv (848x480​_H.264​_AAC) (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Fullmetal_Alchemist_2_-_Brotherhood_-_01_%5B848x480_H.264_AAC%5D%5B3451F1E5%5D.mkv.torrent) ~down
[Syndicate]​ 350 MB *.mkv (1280x720​_H.264​_AAC) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57549) ~this one is the former Shinsen-Subs file
200 MB *.mkv (848x480​_H.264​_AAC) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57551) ~this one [I]is the former Shinsen-Subs file
[SHS-re-enc]​ 182 MB *.avi (704x400​ XviD​ MP3) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57564) ~XviD re-encode of Syndicate's HD release
[VinSubs] 350 MB *.mkv (H.264) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57509)
[gSS] 335 MB *.mkv (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BgSS%5D_Fullmetal_Alchemist_(2009)_-_01_%5BD7E42CA9%5D.mkv.torrent)
[Xincode]​ 380 MB *. avi (xvid​ 852x480) (http://www.anirena.com/viewtracker.php?action=download&id=21509) ~TV-J's raw and Shinsen's translation
[Eclipse] 232 MB *.avi (XviD) (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Full%20Metal%20Alchemist%20Brotherhood%20-%2001%20(XviD)%20%5b16B3DC8C%5d.avi.torrent)
[Eclipse] 330 MB *.mkv (1280x720) (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Full%20Metal%20Alchemist%20Brotherhood%20-%2001%20(1280x720)%20%5b70C1405D%5d.mkv.torrent)
[s][Darksoul-Subs] 297 MB *.avi (856x482 Xvid HD) (http://www.datorrents.com/download/43913--darksoul-subs-fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-01-v1-856x482-xvid-hd-/) ~v1 down
[Darksoul-Subs] 297 MB *.avi v2 (856x482 Xvid HD) (http://datorrents.com/download/44021--darksoul-subs-fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-01-v2-856x482-xvid-hd-/) ~v2 with corrected lyrics/timing
[re-EN]​ 205 MB *.avi (864x486 XviD​ AAC) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57642) ~hardsub version of Shinsen's release
[Aasasubs] 280 MB *.mp4 (1280x720 H264) (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57672)
[Taka] 207 MB *.mp4 (480p) (http://www.takafansubs.com/torrents/%5BTaka%5D_Fullmetal_Alchemist_%282009%29_01_%5B480p%5D%5B884ADFC3%5D.mp4.torrent)

INTERNATIONAL FANSUBS
For non-English subs, please look here (http://tokyotosho.com/search.php?terms=alchemist+01&type=10).

OTHER
Raw OP/ED (dl/stream) and EP Screenshots (spoilers!) (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2009/04/05/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-01/) @Random Curiosity (thanks to riki :D)
[atl] Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood OP1.​mkv (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57608) 24 MB (with subtitles)
[TV-Edition] Fullmetal Alchemist Season2 OP「again」／ED「Lie (http://bt.dm258.cn/down.php?date=1239057802&hash=37979b7be3c1ab292a0ec1d5679e1d74ee80499c) (1m30s 256kbps MP3 HQ)
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Now.. fast and dirty spoiler:
Entirely filler. It's all about catching Isaac, the anime original character. The preview shows their childhood days. The non-manga story ended already within this ep, so let's hope that they just wanted to wrap up the story with this introduction but it was still entertaining.

Involved characters: Ed and Al, Mustang (wet XD), Hawkeye, Hughes (alive!) and his family, Armstrong, King Bradley, Kimbley (still in jail), Father (only a moment), Lust and Gluttony (just preview-like at the end), ... not sure about the timeline of this ep.

Wonderful, close-to-manga animation. Some familiar voices, some new ones. OP/ED tracks are so-so (good for anime but nothing for my mp3 player) but the animation is awesome in both cases. Background music is nothing special so far but that's all you can get for a first ep. The 'changes' are overall acceptable, I think.

[naruto91]

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57473

[naruto91]

they did 5 trailers on this...i thought that they did an arc for isaac and all 5 trailers are for the first episode O_O??? btw i HOPE they put ling this time

[eni]

Ok, from here on I stop spoiler tagging minor things. I think it's sufficient enough to do it in the first post but as an manga-centric forum, we really can expect that most people know the basics. Please keep the spoiler tags for major happenings (e.g. plot twists and character deaths), though.

Yes, from what I remember from the trailers, everything non-manga related was in this first episode. It's hard to judge how the anime will proceed from now because the preview showed the childhood flashback already but the end of the episode gave a glimpse on Lust and Gluttony being in Rose's church.

However, I have to say I had a really good laugh during some scenes. The comedy parts are as fun as you would expect it. Poor Ed always being mistaken and poor Colonel getting a full frontal shower plus Hughes on the highpoint of his fatherly love *gnyanya* :XD

And the opening animation is awesome, love it <333

[naruto91]

but is that voice true taht the anime will be 52 episodes?

[riki]

And the opening animation is awesome, love it <333

You can download the OP and ED sequences over at Random Curiosity (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2009/04/05/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-01/) :amuse


but is that voice true taht the anime will be 52 episodes?

Anime News Network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2009-03-21/1) states that there will no set amount of episodes for this anime version.

[eni]

Thank you, riki :luv

I edited it into the first post together with a new HD raw download link :amuse
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First fansub is out by Shinsen. Updated first post.

[[Cross]]

Shinsen works fast, anyways I'm about to watch the subbed episode, the opening itself just blew me away.

[Lyra Belaqua]

Well, I guess it was good as an introductory episode, but I'm really, really, REALLY impatient for them to finally get to animating the later parts of the manga, the ones not covered by the first series (and this ep was about the amount of filler I can tolerate).

OP and ED are meh, but I don't particularly care about OPs and EDs anyway.

[endless_dream]

I'm just guessing...maybe this episode is used to replace the lior arc in the manga?

The opening is just great! The ending is not too bad...it is rather cute...with the main FMA characters in their 'crayon-drawn' version

[eni]

Added more fansubs <3


I'm just guessing...maybe this episode is used to replace the lior arc in the manga?
No, I think we can safely assume that it's chronologically set directly before the first arc. They say that they'll leave for Lior soon and the place Lust is in at the very end seems to be the church.

I still need to watch it with subs myself, though. My jp hearing ability is only good enough to catch maybe 1/4 of the dialogues plus the live stream lagged really badly :XD

[michellethemit]

I had some horrible syncing issues with the 350MB .mkv file from shinsen. I'll try the 200MB version next time. When I finally got it going with minimal lag...

Well, first thing I gotta say is that the visuals were /sweeeeeeeet/. It's a tad strange hearing a different Roy Mustang - this one sounds a bit more crafty and a little less arrogant. I was expecting to hear Rukia from Riza, but was pleasantly surprised. I also notice a lot more Ed/Al teamwork this time around, which was lacking back in the first anime. First anime had more 'PROTECT AL'S SEAL AT ALL COSTS!'. But considering what happens later in the manga I could see there being a shift more towards Al's safety as this anime progresses.

[sarutobi_sensei]

okay just finished seeing the shinsen subs version ^^

I was very happy with the animation, it's really good.

nice to hear old voices back, though it's kinda hard to like roy's new voice... it's kinda odd hearing him like that.

also riza has another voice wich is also meh...

this episode was totally filler or it's in one of the novel's I don't know, but I liked it really much ^^

good to see that next week we really have the beggining of the manga storyline.

though it was kinda odd to see so familiar faces in the 1st episode :S

[Gold Knight]

Ah, the one I was downloading it from...


[Shinsen-Subs]​ 350 MB *.mkv (1280x720​ H​.264​ AAC) (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Fullmetal_Alchemist_2_-_Brotherhood_-_01_%5B1280x720_H.264_AAC%5D%5BBAE6EB94%5D.mkv.torrent) ~down

Now down eh? I guess that's why it took so long. Just as well, though. The episode I finally got, it had a few pieces missing.



As for my thoughts on the episode, I guess they're just trying to do something new to start the series since to do otherwise would be doing the same thing as the other series did, and it'd look like the same series to the people that watched it... so I can understand why they did it... plus it did a nice job of doing a "cast introduction" of everybody, even Kimblee. Funny that they left Winry out completely though.

But yes, loved the Hughes bit, and Armstrong as well. This seems to have a feeling of a "Gaiden" arc of how Elric and Al met everybody so it's a nice way to start the series instead of rehashing something else that's already been animated.

But eh, overall, I didn't think that much of it (I mean, Issac wasn't that memorable, though yes he was hinting at the subtle differences of this anime as opposed to the other one) aside from the animation being VERY nice. I liked the Opening/Ending. ED was cute.

But it kinda sucks we'll have to sit through a lot of episodes before, like somebody said, they finally get to the part of the manga that hadn't been animated. It also must kinda suck for the people animating the series.

EDIT: And the Lior arc IS important to the story... everything in the manga was brilliantly interlocked as parts of a plot that's bigger than anybody could have imagined. So yes, I hope they do keep the Lior arc.

[igotthegoods]

Omigosh, just watched the episode, and I'm sooo excited that FMA is back! :luv
I'm surprised that they started off with filler, but it was certainly entertaining. The humor is as good as ever and I'm actually not minding the new voices so far. Plus, I think I almost exploded from fangirling when Hughes walked in for the first time :faint
I don't know how I'm going to handle seeing him die again. It almost broke my heart the first time around! I think I'm going to have to start preparing now :scry
As others have been saying, the animation was awesome! Loved the OP and thought the ED was really cute. I also liked the scene with Isaac and Bradley where everything suddenly turned black and white with the red highlighted.....looked really cool.

Eh, I'm sure I'm not being critical enough, but I was way too excited to view this first episode objectively. :sweat

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Just watched the sub and it was AWESOME. I enjoyed the opening and thought the ending was cute. I enjoyed the story, and can't wait until they get into the manga material. I thought the animation was great. Humor was perfect! It felt like I was watching the manga with regards to it, if that makes any sense.

[adbanginwar]

Info about the first episode... thought i should share...
http://www.waukster.com/full-metal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-1/

[eni]

Ok, I stop monitoring the releases now. The first post is nearly exploding :faint

Taka's sub is 'in work' from what I heard and should be up soon. I'll update the list as soon as I see it. But aside from Taka, I think we have all promising groups now ^^;

From the three 'big' groups (Shinsen, gSS and Eclipse), only gSS uses the original terms so far (Reole instead of Lior) which is a little sad since my hardware doesn't allow me to watch their released without downscaling it first. On the other hand, Shinsen was lightning fast and Eclipse has pretty Karaoke. The translations differ a little in the wording but none does a bad job, afaik ... hmmm >.> ... will decided later which one to keep >.<
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Added Darksoul-Subs' v2 and Taka's 480p release.

I also tried Taka's subs (for the first time, actually) since our dear Narutards like to hype this group so much and am positive surprised about the release quality.

[Stiluz]

Added Darksoul-Subs' v2 and Taka's 480p release.

I also tried Taka's subs (for the first time, actually) since our dear Narutards like to hype this group so much and am positive surprised about the release quality.

"Surprised"? With me as the translator and the fact that we have the definite best release in all departments? I don't love you anymore :notrust Just a little now :/

[Aphalite]

I'm glad they started off the anime with this, even tho Lior was the first chapter. This gives the audience a break from how the first anime occured. What will happen is episode 2 will cover the beginnings and how ed and al lost their mother and then their bodies. Episode 3 will be Lior (only one episode), 4 will be the Tucker episode, 5 will be introducing Scar

I'm interested to see when the coal mine town will be fit in, as it is revived later in the May incident... and also from my understanding the anime is scheduled for one year, so 51 episodes again (no episode during Golden Week I assume)

[Maphisto40]

Holy crap, it was sooo gooood! D8

I have now watched it 8 times.....Best...filler....EVER! I love all the references to the main plot, and glimpses of Father and Kimblee! Young Van Hohenheim in the OP actually made me squee. :amuse I am so unbelievably stoked for this Sunday. When I finished the episode the first time, I went buck nuts and made a bunch of avatars sized for the forum I live on, BleachAnime.org (80x80, 120kb). I think I'll do this every week. :blink

My personal avatar: http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Hoho-Ed-Wind-Maph.gif My MSN pic: http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Hoho-DP-2-MSN.gif <--- so effing smexy

Then a bunch of random ones:
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Isaac-Freeze-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Father-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Bradley-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Armstrong-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Roy-Wet-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Roy-Wet-Mad-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Roy-Glove-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Roy-Mad-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Roy-Bleh-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-and-Al-Shock-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-and-Al-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Wind-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Mad-3-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Mad-2-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Mad-1-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Eat-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Coat-BA.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Ed-Coat-2-BA.gif

[igotthegoods]

Oooh, nice avys, Maphisto! Those top two of Ed are smexy, indeed. :love And some of them are quite mesmerizing. I love that you made one from the short glimpse of Father in this ep. I was very excited to see him show up already, if only for the short time he appears. But the avy I keep watching the most is the one where Mustang gets a face full of water. Hilarious. :XD

[Maphisto40]

Ha ha thanks! But, those top two are mostly of smexy young Van Hohenheim from the flashback chapters! :luv
I wanted the first to be a father-son type of thing. That one and the Father one were the most tedious, since I had to splice together two separate clips for each. :s

I think the instant Ling appears, he will be my new avatar for a looooong time to come (sorry Ed). ;) I wonder how long that will take? *ponders*

*facepalm* Duh! Please ignore my idiocy....still smexy, though <3

[riki]

FUNimation (http://www4.funimation.com/video/?page=video&v=1832) has posted a subbed version on its website.

[Saint Markus]

enjoyed the new episode, i thought the filler was really cool. looking forward to this new anime, i hope they go into more detail from the manga.

[Aikyet]

Finally I've watched the subbed first episode. had to download almost all subs tj see which ones my dvd-player will run. Shinsen's DivX did it for me! Vielen Dank, eni ^_^
The first episode was a very-well made intro filler. Animators tried to show the difference between two FA - and they succeeded.
Opening was just ( which word won't be a cliche? ) heavenly. Godly music by Yui synchronized with flawless animation, amazing directing, what else is there to desire. And Lisa with winry singing *_*
Talking about directing, some words about the episode. Everything is so standard, so what. So many familiar faces - Hughes, Armstrong, Kimblee, even Roy with Liza were called to Cental only to get wet. And Isaac, from the point of the 94th chapter, is somehow a tragic hero.
Can't say that the episode was pure fanservice. This anime is made by fans and for fans. Though, this e[pisode will be quite amazing even for newcomers ( no OP reference here ) But hey - all fans have waited for years - we deserve some fanservice!
So yes, FA2 has began. And maybe it will run amazingly good?
Mybe Bones will make it?
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Fullmetal%20Alchemist/Roy-Bleh-BA.gif
I hope they do.

Maphisto40, awesome gifs! *_*
What do you use to make 'em?
And by the way, if you are doing this on weekly basis, can you make some of them bigger? Like, 150*150 or like that?

So, there only half a day left before the second episode run.
I've already installed Keyhole, so this one I hope to watch live. Only if I don't oversleep ^_^

[Maphisto40]

Maphisto40, awesome gifs! *_*
What do you use to make 'em?
And by the way, if you are doing this on weekly basis, can you make some of them bigger? Like, 150*150 or like that?
I use a combination of software to make them. Once I have an AVI clip, I use Video Avatar to make the rough avatar cut. Then I use Adobe Imageready to edit the avatars until they are the proper file size and speed.

I don't mind making some bigger ones, but there won't be as many. Because of quality issues, I have to make each size completely separately, so it's twice as much work. :amuse I'll pick the ones I like best, or you can ask me for a specific scene.

On topic, I am ridiculously hepped up for the new episode, and I may just stay up way too late waiting for the sub.... :darn

[eni]

Here's episode 2 coming for you :luv

This episode starts with them being in a train and Ed recalls their way up till now. While telling what happened, they recap half of their past. Flashbacks from their childhood with Trisha, the human transmutation and Ed's memories from behind the door. Roy's first meeting with them, Winry's first meeting with Riza, parts of the recovery, a very short memory on Izumi (which I found misplaced to show her face that early) and finally Ed's state alchemist test after which he gets his official alchemist name. The episode ends back in the train with a view on the church of Lior/Reole from the window.

The preview for next week shows them fixing the radio and meeting Rose as well as the priest. We also see the chimera and Ed fighting without his coat, so I assume that it won't get split on two episodes again.

Happy Easter to everyone who's celebrating it. I will be away in an hour from now (it's 10.30am for me) to spend lunch till dinner with my family, so I won't be here to add the subs as soon as they appear.

But seeing the release mass of last week, we better just link to the main source directly for now. It's impossible to keep up with all these groups on the first day after the episode aired. I'll add the 'main releases' in the evening, so take these general links as a guide:

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Infos for online viewing and download of the FMA episodes have moved to a separate thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).
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If you can't use torrent, Shinsen-Subs had a Megaupload link in their release thread last week directly after the torrent was out. Check their website (http://www.shinsen-subs.org) for the news. Also googling for something like e.g. "groupname fullmetal 02 megaupload" will often give you blogs and anime download sites with direct download links.

Enjoy! :luv

As for my thoughts on this episodes:
After the hype of last week, this time some critiques. I have a hard time getting used to the background music, seriously. At times I find it misplaced (South-European folklore for the sound of their hometown? The author designed it after the countryside of the British islands, AFAIK...) and not fitting the mood. It's also not as memorable as I had wished for it to be but very generic standard bgm so far.

What I also don't like too much are the very long scenes. Even within the conversations, the scene stays forever in one shot, not changing over to the other talking character even. This can be fitting at times but they use it way to often. As for the scenery, landscapes are great but rooms appear to be very empty. The manga has picture-less walls as well but it doesn't give the same cold vibe, IMHO.

The rest is fine. They adjust how things getting told but that was to be expect. Obviously they don't want to tell the same thing 1:1 twice in both anime and there's nothing wrong with it. But everything stays true to the original so far even within the changes and that's all I can wish for. Roy's voice still hasn't grown on me (I miss his sarcastic tone) but that's not a big deal.

Overall still great but those are a few things that irk me while watching and I really try hard to not compare it to the older anime.

[Aikyet]

Maphisto40, I see, that doesn't sound too complicated. Maybe I'll try it. Someday ::)
I understand. Few are totally fine. Though, big ones for opening-Hohenheim and almost-facepalm-Roy would be highly appreciated ^_^

10 hours remain till the 2 episode. Now I go to sleep, and hope to wake up in the morning just on time to watch it :)

[eni]

Episode 2 raw is out and subs should be there soon as well. Grab it here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48040) :amuse

@Maphisto40... if you plan to do the anime avatars regularly, feel free to create a thread for it. You can sort them all in one place there for a better overview ;)

[endless_dream]

Here the link for watching ep 2 on youtube:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPZmvJyF3gw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QJ1-P2AU0I&feature=channel
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeCb3x-Ed7g&feature=channel

it's the RAW version...so, no subs...

[Maphisto40]

@Maphisto40... if you plan to do the anime avatars regularly, feel free to create a thread for it. You can sort them all in one place there for a better overview ;)

Thank you very much, Eni-san!! Point taken! xD

Now that I have more from episode 2, I shall do so immediately! :p

[lexx]

Yeah...the show feels really similar to the continuing adventures of Hajime no Ippo. It's similar in how none of the magic of the original series is felt in this new one. It's also very obvious that Fullmetal Alchemist came to existence during the golden age of anime, when budgets where higher, j-rock was par for the course, and background music wasn't generic in-house crap.

I don't feel any of the magic or feel of the first anime here. The magic that the anime had, the elements of style, sound, and pacing that brought the manga to life are gone. It's now just another generic forgettable franchise.

And that really hurts when I consider how much I loved the original.

[Maphisto40]

Well lexx, we all have our own opinions, and mine just happens to clash with yours. I absolutely hated the first anime, except for its music and animation. I hated what they did to the story, I hated all the chronology changes, and I hated how everyone and their grandmother were so insufferably emo. And don't even get me started on that horrid movie.... :notrust It was so against the feelings the manga evokes from me that I cannot see it as being connected at all. The manga is my all-time favorite, so I'm a lot more sensitive about it. ;)

I am very happy so far with Brotherhood. I love the animation, the voices, the music, etc. I am so happy to see the early chapters animated in a canon fashion that it's hard to describe. I also like the fast pace that seems to be set up so far. This was a great flashback episode, rolling the failed human transmutation, the Gate (SQUEE), Roy's offer, and Ed's exam all into one. There was no reason to stretch it over more than one episode, so I'm happy they didn't. Roy was easy on the eyes here, and the meeting of Riza and Winry was cool. I also think child Ed is just so cute. I can't wait to see the flashback of their training on the island (sans stupid faux Wrath this time)... There's a LOT of things I can't wait to see animated, but I think #1 on my list is LING!!! :p

Next week....Lior! (in one fast episode, yay!)

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

I think both episodes have been great. This episode had great pacing and was a nice way to show us the flashbacks in a new way. My favorite scene from the whole episode is when Mustang is yelling at Ed in the wheelchair, and then Al grabs him and apologizes several times. I was nearly in tears. I enjoyed the music, and enjoyed it as the music quickened when Ed woke up as they approached Lior.

Next week should be great. I agree with Maphisto that the characters have a more manga-like appearance, which is good.

[Dhazard]

Well, I really miss the old soundtrack.... It really made the scenes of the first series more emotionals.

[lexx]

See that's the thing, sure the original anime kinda screwed with the plot, but it was a better-done ANIME than what we've seen thus far. Music, direction, pacing, this new one's coming up rather bland.

Hellsing Ultimate is a perfect example of how simply following the plot without evolving the content to better suit the screen kinda falls. I liked the hellsing anime, and yes I admit it kinda went to crap at the end. I loved the hellsing manga. This new hellsing ultimate is....pretty much just the manga on a screen. The original anime created a style and feel that the new one really lacks. Music's a HUGE part of that.

You gotta admit this new one's music is sorta crap.

[hideseeker]

I'm reserving judgement for the moment since this is merely the first 2 episodes and it's clear they want to get most of what was done in the first series out of the way, but just want to at least educate the newbies to the series so that they are not out of the loop.

That side, the series seems to be some poor copy of the first, and though there will always be bitching about the first deviating, going too dark (To be honest, the manga has always been dark and sad, so I am not sure why there's bitching). I guess we just have to wait and see how it goes.

And I preferred the exam in the anime, versus the one in the manga, though I guess the animators are rushing things.

And the music is noticeably absent at times.

[Maphisto40]

That side, the series seems to be some poor copy of the first, and though there will always be bitching about the first deviating, going too dark (To be honest, the manga has always been dark and sad, so I am not sure why there's bitching).

See, I'm not bitching about the darkness, I love how dark the manga gets. I'm talking about the way the first anime changed characters' personalities until they were horrid walking sacks of angst. The manga never does that. Everyone copes pretty well and has their angsty moments, but not throughout the entire thing. Edward is my favorite manga character, but the first anime managed to make me hate him. Arakawa-sensei is a master at balancing the light and dark moments, but the first anime just shoved that scale towards drama, angst, blech. The second season was some of the most depressing crap ever. :notrust

With the advent of this new series, I'm pretty much going to pretend the first no longer exists (aside from episode 13, of course). Sorry, I've never been in the camp of "ZOMG FMA is one of the most brilliant animes ever created!" :eyeroll

[hideseeker]

Well, dark animes tend to be depressing, just that the first anime was especially depressing. But if you were consider the fact that to achieve their dream, they had to willingly sacrifice thousands of lives. Who wouldn't be depressed about it? They might as well have given up at that point. Anyone who wasn't depressed would be a sociopath.

[Maphisto40]

Well, dark animes tend to be depressing, just that the first anime was especially depressing. But if you were consider the fact that to achieve their dream, they had to willingly sacrifice thousands of lives. Who wouldn't be depressed about it? They might as well have given up at that point. Anyone who wasn't depressed would be a sociopath.

Yes, I know...... I guess it's the fact that the direction the storyline went in was so abhorrent to me that I am so critical of all aspects of it. :notrust What they did made sense within its own storyline, but on the outside, it was so non-FMA to me. The spirit of the manga was just nonexistent.... Meh, it's just my opinion. :p

[endless_dream]

episode 2 is kind of rushing...I think they'll basically 'fast forward' the part where it's been animated in the first anime...and slow down when they reached the parts in the manga which haven't been animated...i guess that the anime will improve as it moves on...

[c0nflikt]

well i have to say i'm a new FMA fan, i just happend to say oh the new fma that follows the manga is out and i watched the 2 episodes, i thought they were awesome. So something inside me said omg lemme watch the old anime to pass time. I have to say everywhere the first anime went was interesting but everytime i see the gate i get scared i've never seen anything in an anime that makes me honestly scared, its awesome.

tl;dr version, the new anime is so awesome it made me watch the whole original i think i'm gonna read manga.

[Lyra Belaqua]

I've seen the first series, and I loved the first series, but I don't really get why people complain. The new series is very solid so far and I expect it to get even better. (And I'm really glad they are rushing through the beginning, the faster it's out of they way, the better (I'm so impatient for some really cool stuff from the manga to get animated!)).

[goaltaylor33]

I will admit that the old anime had better music. The old music had feeling to it, the new music is more generic. There's really no arguing that point. Problem is that the old anime bastardized everything into some crazy ass-backwards story that didn't make any sense, and tried to be way too dramatic. The manga's story is much better. Also, it does seem like they're rushing some of the stuff they've already done, and I do hope that stops. The old anime had a great storytelling quality in the beginning, and I'd like to see the new anime emulate that. Rushing the first 2 episodes is OK with me because they were basically intro episodes. But when we get into the heart of the story, starting in Lior, I hope they slow it down and give us time to breathe a little.

[eni]

And we start into the third round :amuse

My computer acted up, so I'm not sure but it seems they got a kind of frequent 'introduction' before the opening? It showed the souls in the philosophers stone and the brothers as kids... then I had to reboot because it entirely froze >.>

The ep starts out with them sitting at the shop in Reole and 'the radio incident' after which poor Al gets mistaken for the FMA again. Then they follow the priest's demonstration of power and meet Rose in the church. I love the scene when Ed lists the parts needed for a human body. It shows the difference to the older anime well: less drama, more comedy. The priests betray follows and Rose is asked to shot the FMA. The Chimera gets released causing Ed to reveal his arm. Commercial break where the older anime broke into two episodes.

They escape and Al has a long talk to Rose while altering the church bell. Ed fools the priest in revealing everything through the speakers and while the priest runs amok my computer acted up again ;.;

The fake stone breaks apart. Rose has her little breakdown and the brothers leave. We than see Lust and priest-eating Gluttony, yay <3

Preview shows Tucker and Nina to come next week.

This episode uses a lot of multi-panel interaction which I don't like much but in exchange they finally stopped with these annoying long shots on a single scene. It's all very fast paced as expected but this time it doesn't feel bad at all. I would even say this pacing is better for this particular story arc.


Infos for online viewing and download of the FMA episodes have moved to a separate thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

Have fun! :luv

[eni]

Episode 3 just aired. Go here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48302) for discussion :amuse

[eni]

Your welcome :amuse

And the first HD raw appeared. Let's hope for a sub soon <3

Yeah, I glimpsed on something like a monster but I'm on an old temporary laptop today and it died on me constantly during the stream. I wasn't sure if it was the Priest or Gluttony but now I wait for the subs before downloading anything.

So they did leave out the whole part with the huge statue? Was Envy there in the end?

[naruto91]

great thanks

i have watched it... i have multi-panel interaction too and i was very surprised when i see cornelio transformed into that moster, but the episode was great

[naruto91]

no, i haven't seen envy and the huge statue didn't break the roof O_O...ed created an arm from another statue O_O

[eni]

So it wasn't just my lag that made me miss it >.<

Ah well, I guess they really try to avoid creating a 1:1 copy of the last anime. Which isn't a bad thing, imho. They still do well.

Eniways, the first sub is out by Shinsen. Enjoy! :luv

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Enjoyed the Raw. I like the comedy they have had in the show so far. Gluttony's voice seems different from the first, but I like it. We may see Envy in the next episode.

It is a little disappointing we don't see the mining town or the battle on the train. I imagine they may do it after Eastern City or find some other way to introduce Yoki.


I understand they want to be different. I am still excited for next week. They have had 3 very solid episodes IMO.

[naruto91]

but i prefear these differences (i really like this episode compared to the first 2 of the first season)...for yoki and mining city, they could do a flashback
when the child come from the east and arrives in the mining city, citizens may have a flashback of yoki and the brothers

[lexx]

..yeah...the first series was better. Animation quality, pacing, direction, and music.

I was willing to tolerate the drop to second-rate production values in exchange for getting the original manga plot, but it seems this new series is remixing things just like the old one. Except the old one did a better job of it, atleast with this Cornello story.

*sigh* it's kinda sad that they have one A-list manga, an A-list anime adaptation from several years ago, and the best they can do is this second-rate stuff.

[kakuro]

while I do feel it came off a bit rushed do to the fact they weren't stretching it out to two episodes it really did have the manga's feel and made me actually think I was watching that chapter.I didn't enjoy it as much as episode two becuase of how short it felt thanks to lack of action. I can definitely say this is a good start for a new spin on the series hopefully they'll stretch out the later episodes with more fight scenes even if they are filler.

[badluckartist]

I got mixed feelings from this episode. Can't tell if I liked the mixin' around they did- but with Ed transmuting a different statue in a different way, canon is going to be screwed with later when Hohenheim points out the statue still stuck through the roof of the church.

And Cornello transforming... I don't like the fact they tried to make him of all people seem menacing. Again canon is messed with, as the counterfeit philosopher's stones were never shown to do anything like that (even the real ones).

The second one was amazing though. I absolutely adored the Truth, and it's voice was exactly how I imagined it being.

[eni]

It's FMA time again :D

Starts out by introducing Scar <333
Roy's staff is working on papers. One of them contains Yoki's profile and they say that he's currently on the run after the Elric Bros exposed his doings in the miners town. Roy brings Ed and Al to Tucker's house. From there on it's (if I remember correct) close to the manga: the introduction, Nina, Alexander, the Chimera, the research, their playtime together and well, the transformation. Tucker is really creepy *shivers*

The episode ends with Scar passing 'judgment' on Tucker and Nina. This time correctly as it's shown in the manga. The preview shows Ed's fight with Scar.

Overall, not better or worse than the same episode from the older anime. This ep contains little to none comedy which fits the mood. I just still think that the background music is a little too plain. It could be more touching in such scenes.


Infos for online viewing and download of the FMA episodes have moved to a separate thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

Have fun! :luv

[eni]

Episode 04 just aired. You'll find the discussion thread here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48531).

Now it's starting to get awesome, IMHO :amuse

[naruto91]

the first time i criyed for nina and alexander...btw i'll comment when the raw will be out...
ps: tokyotosho is now .info

[eni]

Ah, right. Corrected the links ^^;

The first LQ raw is out with a cute release note:

NINA AND ALEXANDERRR ｡･ﾟ･(ﾉД`)･ﾟ･｡ TUCKERRRR (╬ ಠ益ಠ)
:XD

[naruto91]

the episode was fantastic and scar is the best

[eni]

Yes, clearly the best episode so far. I hope they keep up this level <3
[hr]
Bad news:
FUNimation has send out C&D's to apparently all FMA2 fansub groups. While gSS already announced that they stop subbing it, Shinsen has only taken the tracker down but promised to continue. No info from Eclipse, Taka and others so far.

Btw, first sub is out by 'The Alchemists'... ehm ... oooh ^^;

[[Cross]]

I thought the very same thing...I've yet to see the release to confirm though. But, it most likely is, since no other group had this speed.

[eni]

Yeah, currently downloading to confirm but I'm pretty sure it is ^^

[[Cross]]

How fun, it seems like it is them, I'm not sure about any of the other groups, but the plain kara rather gave them away.

[eni]

Pretty much all indicates that it's them, jupp. Very nice but pssst ^^

[kakuro]

I think they do a much better job on emotional moments in the new series than they do in the old series becuase all the episodes in the old series were so dramatic you kind of get desensitized to them after awhile... not to say that their aren't MANY tearjerkers in the old one but something about this episode seemed to hit a lot harder than the other one did especially considering that they lived with with tucker and Nina for about a year or so in the first series. I guess it just comes from seeing Ed and Al really play with Nina and how short the time they spent together was. just seeing Chimera!Nina tear up talking to her dad made me lose it.

[lexx]

I liked it more than the last one, mostly because the plot flowed better than before; Shou tucker as a pathetic, desperate hack was presented a bit better in this series than in the first one.

I still give the nod to the old show, but this is the first ep that's made me want to see the next one.

[adbanginwar]

the episode was good, but i was like dejavu. it was in fma1.
though death of iron blood alchemist,nena and shou tucker was not present previously.
[hr]
taka drops FMA.

http://www.takafansubs.com/?p=news&id=20

[eni]

FUNimation has also informed us that they intend to shortly introduce a download-to-own service for the series. This will hopefully address issues regarding Flash video and image quality.

Oh yes, I would be very happy to hear this IF the problem were a mere quality issue but...


This content is not available in your territory.

>.>

[sallykie]

Oh yes, I would be very happy to hear this IF the problem were a mere quality issue but...


This content is not available in your territory.


Indeed. I'd really like to see the episodes legally but if there are no legally viewable episodes available where I live, I'm not gonna be able to do that. At least not yet. FUNimation should realize USA isn't the entire world -__-

That aside, Episode Four was definitely the best episode in this new series so far. Before, they didn't always quite manage to adapt the manga scenes so that they flowed well, but now it's great. Since the first episodes were a bit more "detached" anyway and the plot is going to be much more continuous from now on, I dare to hope the quality might stay up.

[eni]

And we reached the fifth episode already! :clap

It's starting out with the riot in Reole and introduces Envy <3

Back in East City, everyone is worried. Ed is still down and standing in the rain when Scar suddenly attacks. The fight is really nice and close to the manga. Roy comes to Ed's rescue... ehm... I mean, Riza comes to Roy's rescue :rofl and Armstrong has his big showoff with Scar.

Btw, am I the only one who finds it weird that Armstrong doesn't open his mouth when talking? >.>

After Scar's escape, Al scolds Ed pretty badly. I love how serious he is. We get a short flashback explanation on the Ishval conflict. The episode ends with Ed and Al ready leaving for home. The preview shows them together with Armstrong and Dr. Marco :)


Infos for online viewing and download of the FMA episodes have moved to a separate thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

Have fun! :luv

[naruto91]

i must watch it, but did they put chapters 6 and 7 in a episode?

[michellethemit]

Anyone feel a bit weird about the new Gluttony and Envy voices? I hafta admit, I miss the old androgynous Envy voice - this one's pretty obviously male. That, and the old one was more...I dunno, malicious? The transformation sequence was cool though.

[endless_dream]

Just watched the fifth ep...

I think I still prefer Gluttony's voice from the previous anime...but as for Envy, I thought his voice is better in this anime...it suits Envy's nature better..

haha...I liked the way Hughes just popped out of nowhere after Scar fled, it's so random...:D and the angst in this ep is quite good.

[adbanginwar]

Just watched the fifth ep...

I think I still prefer Gluttony's voice from the previous anime...but as for Envy, I thought his voice is better in this anime...it suits Envy's nature better..

haha...I liked the way Hughes just popped out of nowhere after Scar fled, it's so random...:D and the angst in this ep is quite good.

yup that was good when huges pops. scar is the best. loved the way he dodges all the attacks and nearly kills major armstrong.
can't wait for next episode. story seems to follow manga a bit. i wonder if in next episode we'll have the gold mine story or something else.

[cool beans]

boy what another brilliant episode the action scenes were well done once again. I am really loving this series right now its just so much different from the original its great! (not that im saying the original series was bad or anything i loved that too :p)

[Navid.]

I used to follow this with Taka's fansubs, then I was planning to go with Shinsen, but seems they have dropped it as well.

So seems a lot of the groups have dropped this... Would appreciate any comment as to which remaining group has the best quality subs, so that I continue to follow the series?

[eni]

Eclipse (http://www.tokyotosho.info/search.php?terms=eclipse+alchemist&type=1) didn't drop it :3

As for Shinsen... Keep your eyes open, that's all I can say ^^

[michellethemit]

What I did notice as well: Riza's 'GET DOWN, SILLY COLONEL' kick was hella lot more dramatic this time around...

[eni]

It's getting better :luv

This week's episode starts with Ed and Al on their way to their hometown, accompanied by Armstrong. At an rail intermediate station, they see Marco and follow him. The whole encounter with Marco is (if I remember correctly) exactly as it is in the manga. Just Lust's threat is missing.

They arrive at granny's place and here again, nothing much to say since everything stays close to the manga. Winry is perfect <3
The episode ends when they leave to research on the hint Marco gave them (and Winry discovers the forgotton screw ^^).

Their research through dozens of books is shown in the preview for next week, as well as the introduction of Maria Ross, Denny and Sheska. We'll also see Lust and Gluttony.

Infos for online viewing and download of the FMA episodes have moved to a separate thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

[eni]

I overslept, so no summary today. Gomen >.<

If anyone wants to summarize a little from the raw, feel free to do so.

You'll find the infos for online viewing and download of the FMA episodes now in a separate thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Just watched the RAW, so I can give a quick summary a shot. I thought it was another pretty good episode.

We begin briefly in Central with the Elrics and Armstrong outside the remains of the 1st branch library. We are taken to East City where Lust meets up with Gluttony. He smells Scar and they have a brief battle that ends in an explosion. Mustang's crew is notified and go to the scene.

We go back to Central where Armstrong is relieved by Brosh and Ross. They take the Elric brothers to Sheska's. After getting Marcoh's notes, they pay her and head back to the hotel. They struggle to decode Marcoh's notes. Hughes stops by and "kidnaps" Sheska.

The brothers see the truth. Armstrong finds out from Ross and Brosh, and then they get the map out and find the abandoned research lab. The episode ends with Barry the Chopper leaping off the roof to attack Al.

The preview focuses on the battles with the guardians of the lab. It was hard to tell what else happens as it was choppy on my computer.

[naruto91]

they cutted the lust's scene with the girls again T_T

[Red Hood]

they cutted the lust's scene with the girls again T_T

What scene? Do u mean the lil fight she have vs Marco?:blink

[endless_dream]

Looks like Barry the chopper and the other 2 guys are appearing in the next ep...which means that Ed is going to be confronted by envy and lust very soon (If I remember correctly...)

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Another week, another new FMA!!

A not so brief summary:
After the quick recap of last week, we begin with Barry attacking Al. It then switches to Ed who finds the room with the transmutation circle for the Philosopher's Stone. Slicer then appears and attacks Al. After a kick, Ed realizes that Slicer is empty like Al. Slicer shows Ed his blood Seal.

The scene then shifts to Hughes, who is on the phone with Roy. They discuss the Scar incident and how his body still hasn't been found. Maria and Danny discover that the Elric brothers snuck out and go after them.

We return to the research lab and the battle between Ed and Slicer. Ed's arm starts to give out, and he remembers Winry's advice. Ouside, Barry and Al are still fighting and Barry tells Al about his past. Barry kills the guard while toying with Al as to if his memories are real or created. We go back to Ed's battle. He finds out Slicer is actually two bodies. Lust and Envy show up and kill the Slicer brothers.
Maria and Danny show up and save Al from Barry. The research lab explodes as Danny, Maria, and the Elric's escape.

The preview for next week deals with Ed and Al in the hospital as well as Winry at Hughes' house.

I thought this was another solid episode and I can't wait for the subbed version to come out.

[bajapanties88]

up for streaming!

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 8 (http://www.animeavenue.net/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-8/)

[eni]

Thank you, CopyNinjaKakashi.

I'm totally out of the loop at the moment and have leave today before the episode airs too. So feel free to create the thread and I'll sticky it later :amuse

[bajapanties88]

Episode 9: Created Feelings is out

Streaming link: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood episode 9 (http://www.animeavenue.net/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-9/)

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

My pleasure. Sorry I wasn't able to do it for this week's episode. I was out in the field trying to trap some voles.

[c0nflikt]

Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Episode 10 (http://www.animecrazy.net/full-metal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-10/)

I shed a couple tears during this episode.

[sarutobi_sensei]

I cried on the funeral just like the 1st time it happened and the 2nd time in the manga :'(

Elicia's cry was so painful to hear again... And I guess that even the fuhrer was like that. He can be a Humunculus, but he still has feelings.

[Exodi]

Hm.....somehow Shou and Nina ended up on that train, in the seats before Ed and Al's. :D

[bajapanties88]

Streaming link: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 11 SUB (http://www.animeavenue.net/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-11/)

[kurosaki-seb]

great ep but skipped many things from the chapter and goin a bit to fast at least 2-3 chapters a episode and also skippin some important parts from the manga so looks likes fillers will be happenin in this series

[glasskatana]

Left too much stuff out for me. Still, I'm glad they're pretty much sticking to the plot of the manga. The only scene I was legitimately a little peeved they left out was the scene where it is revealed that the old automail mechanic knew winry's grandmother. I don't want (nor do I necessarily expect) fillers, but it would be easier to avoid fillers if they included more from the manga in the episodes.

[[Cross]]

great ep but skipped many things from the chapter and goin a bit to fast at least 2-3 chapters a episode and also skippin some important parts from the manga so looks likes fillers will be happenin in this series

Not exactly, they are just clearing through the first part of the series in record time so the viewers of the old season don't get bored. In the grand scheme of things, the areas they left out weren't too important.

[THM Nindo]

great ep but skipped many things from the chapter and goin a bit to fast at least 2-3 chapters a episode and also skippin some important parts from the manga so looks likes fillers will be happenin in this series

Nah...
What they left out was not important.

When they arrive to chapter that have a lot of info and important stuff, they will make sure that everything is there.

Anyway, IMO, the manga is near the end, so it should be done before the anime catch up.
FMA is really not a manga/anime that would support fillers very well.
I don't think that there will be any fillers for that anime.

[Cobras826]

Streaming link: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 12 sub (http://www.animeavenue.net/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-12/)

[glasskatana]

They completely removed the part about the masked man. That seriously bothers me.

[sarutobi_sensei]

They completely removed the part about the masked man. That seriously bothers me.
I'm with you on this, they've been cutting interesting parts and that's just wrong.
[hr]
Not to mention that they cut Hohenheim parts, like Ed's flashback on his dad studying and stuff like that...

They're reducing to many chapters. @ this rate the same thing will happen... Just like last time...
[hr]
:o I just noticed, they covered 5 chapters in 1 episode...

[Kozar927]

I really and truely hate brotherhood. Only because it had the potential to be the best anime ever, but they just decided they would ruin it. MaNGA > FMA 1 > Brotherhood

[THM Nindo]

They completely removed the part about the masked man. That seriously bothers me.

Bah, it's not that bad.
The mask man wasn't that useful anyway.

The most useful thing was for them to truly understand what is alchemy (One is all, all is one).

I don't mind it too much.
[hr]


They're reducing to many chapters. @ this rate the same thing will happen... Just like last time...

:o I just noticed, they covered 5 chapters in 1 episode...

I'm kinda glad that they're doing that thought...
We already all saw those episode in anime.

I want to see what happen after the part were the first Anime start to diverge with the Manga.
I think that's why they are doing it with a real fast pace.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Still I'd like them to add more stuff...

[kakuro]

I liked this episode I honestly think that while the masked man was important to their survival training,He's already been shown and the thing I like about this anime is that while it touches on stuff already shown ,It knows when to it should bring stuff up and when it shouldn't. are there parts they could have left in, and helped explain the storyline (M Bison voice):Of Course!. But anyway back to the episode, they quickly touched on all the important parts of those three chapters that mattered and while I do think they could have slowed it down a bit, their obviously trying to reach the meat of the manga,which really gets started with greed and head out from there. hopefully they'll slow down a bit when they reach that part next episode.

[Sherbetmayhem]

Fantastic episode. I was always bored of this part in FMA1 because they dragged it. Combining it all into one brilliantly paced episode makes it much more watchable and excellent!

Next week looks ace too =)

[BenRRR]

They're cutting too many funny parts that are shown in the manga :/

[Kozar927]

Yah its getting harder and harder to stomach FMA 2 their cutting out way to much. It moves way to fast. Im crossing my finger for a FMA 3 one were they tell the manga story but does it justice, not rushes through it like some one reading a school book their not interested in.

[THM Nindo]

Yah its getting harder and harder to stomach FMA 2 their cutting out way to much. It moves way to fast. Im crossing my finger for a FMA 3 one were they tell the manga story but does it justice, not rushes through it like some one reading a school book their not interested in.

Forget about a FMA3.
We're already really lucky to have a FMA2.

And they're cutting into parts that are irrelevant, so it's not that bad.

[Baron Hugenstein]

Just watched the episode three hours ago, well all the episodes of FMA 2

I like how the anime is done, short, concise, and almost perfect execution.

[Cobra826]

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 13: The Beasts of Dublith

Streaming link: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 13 (http://www.animeavenue.net/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-13/)

[glasskatana]

huh, is it just me or is that streaming link missing a part of the episode?

[LALAPUI]

This episode was awesome the fight scenes were awesome and the animation was awesome and the next episode looks pretty good too and this episode has a lot of blood.

[naruto91]

i think the part with all the state alchemist will be in the next episodes (armstrong, bradley, ecc)... for the rest i can say only 7 words:
AT THE END WE CAN SEE LING!!!!!!

[glasskatana]

ah, now I don't think its missing anything. I think...

Anyway, I'm SO EXCITED FOR LING!

(still, I don't much enjoy the excessive skipping of sections of the manga. If Ed never went to do the state alchemy exam, how does bradley follow him to his sensei's hometown and then fight greed?)

[goaltaylor33]

I'm not a huge fan of the skipping manga parts either, but they did tie up the loose end about how all the other homunculi knew how to transmute souls and Greed didn't. I'd have liked to have seen Ed go to South HQ, but I'm sure they'll tie it in somehow.

[Aikyet]

(still, I don't much enjoy the excessive skipping of sections of the manga. If Ed never went to do the state alchemy exam, how does bradley follow him to his sensei's hometown and then fight greed?)

What are you talking about? Alchemist exam was shown in the flashback episode, what was it, 3 or 5.
You should pay attention :)

[THM Nindo]

Really liked it.
The fight were really nice (especially Izumi's kick in Greed's face!!).

[OhDearMoshe]

What are you talking about? Alchemist exam was shown in the flashback episode, what was it, 3 or 5.
You should pay attention :)

They mean Ed's renewal for his alchemist licence!

[Cobra826]

Streaming link: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 14 (http://shippuudenquarters.blogspot.com/2009/07/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode.html)

[naruto91]

NEXT WEEK LING LING LING LING LING!!!!!!!!

[Aikyet]

It is coming.

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[glasskatana]

CANNOT WAIT FOR LING!!! (series is going too quickly for my tastes though. Include more from the manga, it's worth it. For god's sake we don't even have a back-story on Yoki.)

[LALAPUI]

Great episode i love it but still going too fast.

[Crude]

Can't wait to see Ling, especially since Miyano Mamoru's voicing him (now that was unexpected!).

[shinobi]

I want the next episode already!! I enjoyed this one...

[Katz]

I'm loving this new anime, I enjoyed the first one, until I read thru the manga and noticed how far off it really was, but this new one, OMG, only complaint and Ive been seeing this all over, it's moving WAY to fast

[Kozar927]

I cant stand the speed at which the new anime moves. It makes it unwatchable imho and rapes the manga worse then the 1st one. At least the first one did justice to the half of the manga it was being fathfull to. This one just rapes the whole thing.

[shinobi]

yeah, it's good and all and follows the manga much better, but it feels like they want to finish the anime with the least possible no. of episodes for some reason!!

[endless_dream]

yeah, it's good and all and follows the manga much better, but it feels like they want to finish the anime with the least possible no. of episodes for some reason!!

I heard that they're only having one year to air FMA...meaning that they'll only have about 52-54 weeks to show the series so that's kind of not surprising that they are rushing through...

On the other hand, looks like there's going to be a new opening and ending
opening #2: "Hologram" by NICO Touches the Walls
ending #2: "Let it out" by Miho Fukuhara

here's the link to the song 'let it out'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4krZ4brk9-c

[shinobi]

I heard that they're only having one year to air FMA...meaning that they'll only have about 52-54 weeks to show the series so that's kind of not surprising that they are rushing through...


lol so that's why! they have to finish it in about 54 ep then...yeah no wonder to be running fast then..

[LALAPUI]

New awesome opening here!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPTzFAUEMU

[igotthegoods]

You can find the episode at all the usual places for streaming or download found in this thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909). ^^

What a great episode! Finally we get the first appearances of our Xingese characters Mei Chan and Ling! <33 :fangirl

What did you think?

[kakuro]

while I missed Mustang's overprotective mode scene,the new opening song,the fight scene and Ling's sly laid back voice all made up for it. Mei's voice will take some getting used to as I honestly didn't expect it to be that high. I had a slight dislike of the scene where Ran Fan took out Ed's arm as in the manga it looked like she disabled him and threw the bomb in the exact same moment making it that much cooler. still the entire fight scene was very well done though not quite as fluid as last weeks. Fu and Ran Fan's voices both fit well but for some reason I thought Fu's would be a little deeper. still a 10/10 episode all around.

[Cobra826]

Streaming link: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 15 sub (hhttp://shippuudenquarters.blogspot.com/2009/07/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode_14.html)

[glasskatana]

(Cobra826, that link is mispelled, and when it's spelled correctly it leads to episode 14, not 15.)

I loved this episode, my only problem continues to be that they are making the series move way too fast. They should really try to include as much from the manga as possible. It doesn't feel right. Still, I LOVED seeing Ling animated. Oh, also they removed one of my favorite comical scenes from the manga.

http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/33/38/

http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/33/39/

That's not as big a deal as the plot deletions though.

I mean, they are already on chapter 33 after only 15 episodes, and we're talking about a manga that comes out monthly, so these are chapters that are on average 3 - 4 times longer than the weekly. I'm worried they're going to have to slow down in order to avoid fillers or changing the story.

Having done the calculations (and it took quite a while) by episode 48, February 28, the anime will have caught up to the manga.

[igotthegoods]

@ glasskatana - love that scene from the manga. :XD It's a pity they left it out.

However, I think my excitement over seeing Ling animated for the first time overshadowed my disappointment in anything they chose to leave out in this case. :sweat And Ling's seiyuu played the part perfectly <33

But I also worry that the episodes are moving a bit too fast. I thought maybe the pace would slow down once they caught up to the parts of the manga that had never been animated before, but with the way things are going it doesn't seem like that is going to be the case. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. I really hope they don't have to resort to fillers... and I really, REALLY hope they don't change the story. :(

[glasskatana]

@ glasskatana - love that scene from the manga. :XD It's a pity they left it out.

My friend, I believe we may be kindred spirits.

:hi5


And Ling's seiyuu played the part perfectly <33
Agreed


I really hope they don't have to resort to fillers... and I really, REALLY hope they don't change the story. :(

I may cry if this happens. >.>

[OhDearMoshe]

It sucks that they are moving it forward so quickly but in all likelyhood the manga will be over by the time they catch up so while annoying the pace isn't the end of the world. Wish it would slow down a tad though.

[killbill]

great episode...like always i just started watching the anime and it's awesome....:)
@OhDearMoshe: u should be grateful that they are moving fast or the anime will end up like naruto shippuden where nothing much happens in a episode...

[Refraction]

In all probability, they've only been allotted a fixed number of weeks to show the anime--so they'll presumably only get 52 episodes; about a year. They have a lot of material to get through, so it wouldn't be practical to slow the pace down. (Not enough time to show filler, either.)

For me, it would have been a bit of a kick in the teeth to have the first 8 volumes done extremely faithfully only to have the ending made intolerably speedy and brief--or, worse yet--done differently in order to make the pace consistent.

[naruto91]

no they said there will be 67 episodes

[Aikyet]

no they said there will be 67 episodes

What are you talking about?

[bittman]

It's called pacing.

They have to go through approximately 30 minutes of work, yet still somehow end it on a dramatic note as was done in a 39 page chapter or two. Typically animating two chapters for an episode means things get cut, whilst animating one means things get elongated.

As a note...isn't ep 16 out now?

[Tsukisama]

The new episode has been released. For information on where to view it, you may refer to this thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

Quite a bit happens in this episode. Go check it out, but just a few points:
Hughes-san :crying
Gracia-san :scry
Maria Ross :o
Havoc :facepalm


Now, let the discussion of this episode commence! :cheerbunny

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

I enjoyed the episode. With the series moving pretty fast, this episode seemed pretty slow, but I didn't mind at all. Looks like things get back to breakneck speed next week.

[Tsukisama]

I enjoyed the episode. With the series moving pretty fast, this episode seemed pretty slow, but I didn't mind at all. Looks like things get back to breakneck speed next week.

I actually enjoyed the slower pace of this episode. Spending more time on developing the drama is a good thing IMO.

I didn't really have as much of an emotional impact for the Hughes drama this episode because the animators did not spend as much time creating the pathos with Hughes' character that was created in the first series. When Ed heard Gracia crying on the other side of the door, I logically thought that I should be feeling really sad, but I wasn't emotionally there because of the lack of build-up to get me to that emotional state.

I think that, now that the animators have diverged from the point in the old anime where it wandered away from the manga's plot, the pace of the anime should slow down and flesh things out much more; otherwise, the emotional impact, one of the things that made the first series so great, will be lacking.

[Kozar927]

I actually enjoyed the slower pace of this episode. Spending more time on developing the drama is a good thing IMO.

I didn't really have as much of an emotional impact for the Hughes drama this episode because the animators did not spend as much time creating the pathos with Hughes' character that was created in the first series. When Ed heard Gracia crying on the other side of the door, I logically thought that I should be feeling really sad, but I wasn't emotionally there because of the lack of build-up to get me to that emotional state.

I think that, now that the animators have diverged from the point in the old anime where it wandered away from the manga's plot, the pace of the anime should slow down and flesh things out much more; otherwise, the emotional impact, one of the things that made the first series so great, will be lacking.

This is what I have been saying since day 1
FMA 2 is too fast. I have no emotional attachment to the characters at all, and it just feels generlly rushed.

Order of FMA greatness

1) The Manga
2) FMA anime 1
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)......

.....9999999) Brotherhood

[igotthegoods]

The new episode is out! Find it at one of the sources found in this thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909). :amuse



Maria Ross is framed for found guilty of Hughes' murder :notrust
Barry the Chopper busts Lt. Ross (and Ling xD) out of jail
Mustang "exacts his revenge" on the lieutenant
Ling provides comic relief <3
Ed and Major Armstrong head East
Lust and Envy have Barry the Chopper's body?! :o



Now, discuss! :hbunny

[naruto91]

yeah!!!! very nice episodes!!!

[Dhazard]

Didn't like the art this time around... many scenes were poorly drawn..
=/

[Katz]

Decent ep, nothing to really write home about, seeing mustang burn a random corpse was nice though

[killbill]

great as always...mustang burning corpse was fun to watch...

[shailks]

You can post the new episode link here. I am sorry to create this link i posted a wrong link by chance and i don't know how to delete threads so...
[hr]
Finally managed to get the link (http://www.watchanimeon.com/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-18/). Here it is guys fully working and all, enjoy. :)

You can also watch/download from any of the links found HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909) :amuse

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Another week, another new episode! Check the weekly source threads for the RAWs.

I have to say this was a really great episode and I can't wait to see the subbed version. Mustang was simply badass!!

[Refraction]

I hope they'll maintain the idea of the episode fading into the ending music--that's one stylistic technique used in the first series that I've longed for in Brotherhood.

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Going back and rereading the chapters involved, it looks like they cut the part out with Ran Fan and Envy while Hawkeye is fighting Gluttony. It isn't a major gripe, since it was still a great episode.

[LALAPUI]

This episode was awesome!!!Mustang was completely badass.

[killbill]

Yeah...right on mustang...he's totally badass..

[bittman]

Annoyed they skipped RanFan + Ling v Envy + Gluttony. It also would have been Pride's first speaking appearance...

[glasskatana]

indeed, and I do think the ran fan v envy thing is very important. It not only introduces the idea that ran fan and ling can sense homunculi, it introduces pride, and shows ling's initial interest in perhaps becoming a homunculus himself. It also introduces how talented Ling is with a sword. Rather aggravated. Other than that though, great episode.

[kakuro]

it saddens me that they didn't have the ran fan vs envy and gluttony fight for all the reasons stated above. plus the scene where gluttony falls on envy is hilarious. anyway aside from that this episode was ten out of ten. the music for hawkeye's break down was perfect as was the scene where mustang takes out lust's philosopher stone as her body actually starts to break down and decay without it. hell even barry's death was awesome. this anime for all it's faults knows how to hit all the important spots much better than the first show did.

[Aikidoka]

Didn't notice the cut scene until you guys pointed it out. Other than that I see no flaws with the second anime at all. And it's a lot bloodier than most other animes...I like.

[Katz]

"I sealed it with fire"

great quote by Mustang, another great episode, I'm with pretty much everyone else here, cutting out ling's part was kind of a letdown, but I give the ep. 9/10 either way

[igotthegoods]

The new episode is out! Get it from any of the sources found in this thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909) and discuss it over here! :nuts

I just downloaded it myself and am getting ready to watch it. Will be back later to properly comment. :lovebunny

[LeDuck]

It's kinda hard to say something new. It was well animated, touching music and a fast Pace. In the Beginning I forced myself a bit to like the new Anime, but I don't care anymore that scenes are missing. We get to see the actual Content animated and damn this episode was awesome.
I can't believe we will get to see the Envy fight so soon =)

[kakuro]

I liked it. this episode had the perfect amount of pacing and drama to fit the manga chapters. the only thing I dislike is that Honehiem seems a little too cold. I mean in the manga sure he's distant but he has this very sympathetic and lonesome aspect to him too. Hopefully they'll have a chance to work on that when he shows up again. I can't wait to here the dubbed version of this however as both his seiyuu and his voice actor do a wonderful job voicing him.

[ameya730]

I liked it. this episode had the perfect amount of pacing and drama to fit the manga chapters. the only thing I dislike is that Honehiem seems a little too cold. I mean in the manga sure he's distant but he has this very sympathetic and lonesome aspect to him too. Hopefully they'll have a chance to work on that when he shows up again. I can't wait to here the dubbed version of this however as both his seiyuu and his voice actor do a wonderful job voicing him.

i am not sure but i think in the manga they leave the cemetery together and hohenheim comments that ed's hairstyle is like his so ed changes his hairstyle and that part was omitted. thats probably why hohenheim feels cold they should have ideally speaking kept that part it depicts their relationship pretty well

[LeDuck]

Actually they left out more parts of Hohenheim. His actually introduction is missing compared to the Manga (http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/40/33/), but they added the photo album scene later on. I also think that Hohenheim seems a bit cold, no surprise since they left out the Comedy parts (http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/42/05/). It wasn't that necessary to cut them out, but that's just me being picky :D

[Crude]

The manga seems to be reaching it's conclusion soon and the anime hasn't reached 25 episodes yet, but has covered 10 volumes. I'm thinking after 25 episodes the anime will start slowing down, seeing as it's not very probable for it to extend past 60 episodes. Still, the pacing has been getting better, although I did (for some reason) like the pacing of the first few eps.

[glasskatana]

Indeed, they removed much of the humor surrounding Ed and his reactions towards his father (hair style and all) but I think this episode was still pretty damn good. (I do hope they show why Winry comments on his shoulders like she did in the manga.)

[igotthegoods]

Woohoo! Episode 21 is out! :nuts

Find it using the links provided here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

Have fun discussing! :hbunny

[naruto91]

nice episode!!! and now ling vs wrath!!!!

[ameya730]

fantastic episode especially loved the part where edward is helping the civilians

[Tsukisama]

fantastic episode especially loved the part where edward is helping the civilians

Yeah, he is such a ham (but a helpful, lovable ham :tem).

This episode had a good mix of funny and serious moments. Emotions ran pretty high in this episode. It was kind of touching to see how much Gluttony and somewhat surprisingly Envy, who is usually so callous, cared for Lust. I think the part with Havoc's dismissal and depression over his paralysis was also quite well done.

I expect the next episode to be even more emotionally charged with the aftermath of Bradley's assault on Ran Fan and some truthes revealed about Scar and his experiences in the Ishval conflict.

[ameya730]

there is one thing that is annoying me i dont understand the reason for them to cut some many things from the manga this is the first anime that i have seen where stuff in manga seems like filler since its not present in the anime

even the conversation between ed and al and winry its significantly shortened the anime does not feel fluid it feels very choppy as if they just combined all the scenes that they animated

[kakuro]

while the subs I was watching were terrible and ruined Havo's breakdown and the Scar vs Ed and Al was incredibly rushed and tacked on, all in all this was a good episode. the only thing that really pissed me off was the lack of blood in the preview for Ran Fan's wound. It's not a flesh wound dammit!, you guys have been constantly showing Al's body getting alchemicaly destroyed each time it's brought up and yet your going to censor this ?. It saddens me to think that the first series could have gotten with this no problem and yet the second series downplays it. Still.....Dancing Chibi Al FTW!

[Tsukisama]

there is one thing that is annoying me i dont understand the reason for them to cut some many things from the manga this is the first anime that i have seen where stuff in manga seems like filler since its not present in the anime

even the conversation between ed and al and winry its significantly shortened the anime does not feel fluid it feels very choppy as if they just combined all the scenes that they animated

Yeah, I agree with you there. This is where the second series falls drastically behind the first: the cadence. The first was so smooth and flowed beautifully (legato) where this one seems rather choppy (staccato).

At first, I thought this was just to get past the part that was covered in the first series, but now I am beginning to think it might be for other reasons like budget constraints, which would be sad.

If it is due to budget, you are kind of left asking yourself would rather have great animation or more well-developed story, because the episodes, although choppy and forced, have been very well animated and so it might seem that the animators are choosing animation quality over episode quantity/plot quality.

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Find the episode using the links provided here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909).

Just got back from a Labor Day weekend trip and watched the episode. It was a very solid episode. I love how they brough in the ending theme at the end of the episode. We have had a string of great episodes. They could have been better, but they are still awesome.

[CBlitz]

Just got back from a Labor Day weekend trip and watched the episode. It was a very solid episode. I love how they brough in the ending theme at the end of the episode. We have had a string of great episodes. They could have been better, but they are still awesome.

the next episode will be awesome, because its directed by the guy who did a lot of the great fights in FMA1 (Greed Vs.Ed, Wrath vs.Movie Gluttony). This episode focused on the more emotional aspects of the story, and the pacing was also better, great episode

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

I just love hoe they emphasized the eyes of the Amestrians and that's what ignited Scar's rage. For all its faults, this series can deliver, and I hope it continues to kick ass!!

[CBlitz]

I thought the ending was pretty lol-worthy

Winry: BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

Ed: :(

ED Music: Let it all out, let it all out...

[Tsukisama]

I thought the ending was pretty lol-worthy

Winry: BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

Ed: :(

ED Music: Let it all out, let it all out...

Really? I thought it was rather emotional and cathartic to have the ending theme come on when it did. I didn't feel like laughing. Poor Winry. :(

I agree with you guys that this episode was very well done in terms of emotional impact and pacing. The focus on the blue eyes was a powerful touch and made the whole war even more reminiscent of the Jewish genocide by the Nazis. Also, I can't recall if it was in this series or the old one, but I think there was a previous episode that similarly focused on the red eyes of the Ishvalans. If it was this series, then it provides a nice juxtaposition.

Overall, it was a very good episode and I look forward to the next one more so than I usually look forward to them. I hope this level of story quality (and animation quality, because it has just been fantastic all along pretty much for this series) continues to improve. Perhaps then it will begin to come out of the shadow of its predecessor in the eyes of many.

[CBlitz]

Really? I thought it was rather emotional and cathartic to have the ending theme come on when it did. I didn't feel like laughing. Poor Winry. :(

I agree with you guys that this episode was very well done in terms of emotional impact and pacing. The focus on the blue eyes was a powerful touch and made the whole war even more reminiscent of the Jewish genocide by the Nazis. Also, I can't recall if it was in this series or the old one, but I think there was a previous episode that similarly focused on the red eyes of the Ishvalans. If it was this series, then it provides a nice juxtaposition.

Overall, it was a very good episode and I look forward to the next one more so than I usually look forward to them. I hope this level of story quality (and animation quality, because it has just been fantastic all along pretty much for this series) continues to improve. Perhaps then it will begin to come out of the shadow of its predecessor in the eyes of many.

I think Brotherhood's biggest advantage at this point is that it's following the manga, sure FMA1 was still good, but the second half was kinda lackluster and the movie was terrible. I think people will come to like Brotherhood more as time goes on.

[eschen]

I thought this was a great episode. I hope the upcoming ones will follow suit.

[igotthegoods]

The new episode is out! Find it at any of the links provided in this thread (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909). :nuts

Discuss it here! :hbunny

[naruto91]

Ling++!!!!!!!!!!!

[LeDuck]

Awesome, I can't believe my favourite Moment in the Manga comes so soon :D

[CBlitz]

great episode, animation was fantastic. The best part was when Ling jumped out of the manhole and shoved a grenade down Gluttony's throat :)

[rykarreolacr]

Fantastic episode. I'm loving Brotherhood!!! I hope they can keep it up with this quality.

[Katz]

Not sure if this is known or not but both 24 and 25 are out and English subbed on anivide.com...just thought I'd post since I didn't know this till today

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Not sure if this is known or not but both 24 and 25 are out and English subbed on anivide.com...just thought I'd post since I didn't know this till today

Both were excellent episodes. I was just about to start a thread. I really liked Envy's true form.

[CBlitz]

link for download
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909

I recommend Eclipse

also.......
Edzaku!!
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8564/edzaku.gif

[ameya730]

man this was a nice episode envy true form was awesomely animated, didnt like the colour green though, but i guess it fits his character considering the phrase becoming green with envy

i guess the anime is now moving at a very acceptable pace not too fast not too slow just right

[CBlitz]

man this was a nice episode envy true form was awesomely animated, didnt like the colour green though, but i guess it fits his character considering the phrase becoming green with envy

i guess the anime is now moving at a very acceptable pace not too fast not too slow just right

I don't like how they CGI'd him up, it looked...off. Also wtf at green, I thought the faces were supposed to be white.

[raikou]

in my opinion, the CGI is good, but the colour green is not. i prefer black for envy. his colour is dfferent from manga in chap 53

[naruto91]

in the manga cover number "i don't remember", he is green

[ca12nag3]

epp 26 is out already and seen it ^^ its good.FMA-BH epp26 (http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-26-online)
thats where i watched it.

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Another week, another badass FMA episode. I loved the end of the episode and the "reunion" that the title of the episode refers to.

Weekly sources to stream/download HERE (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909) :amuse

[darko]

It was an amazing episode! I loved the ending aswell. I was surprised to see who it was. Can't wait till next weeks episode.

[ca12nag3]

The end part was awesome were Ed yells at Als body+memories that he will be back and the intro of the endsong starts ^^.
To think of it most of the brotherhood episodes are this good.

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Is it me or does next week seem to have some filler? I can't recall any manga chapters dealing with Hohenheim meeting Pinuckle Rockbell or Tricia.

[ca12nag3]

Is it me or does next week seem to have some filler? I can't recall any manga chapters dealing with Hohenheim meeting Pinuckle Rockbell or Tricia.

He did see Tricia in the manga that is in a flashback ofc cause shes dead. Pinuckle he met again lateron. Thats when he meets Al for the first time. But those are different chapters... Not what should follow now. You sure thats whats in the next epp?

I see well i usualy dont view spoilers. Indeed it shows him in flashback, i asume its to build up the reasons why things happend they did.

[Crude]

Sometimes I wish I hadn't read the manga, just so I could enjoy these wonderful episodes a lot more.

[ca12nag3]

Hmm i must say, the episodes are realy good even if you read it already ^^ simply cause the quality is so good :D

[tincan]

While watching episode 26, for a split second there I was thinking... "Is BONES cutting out Ed's most important line in that chapter????" when the door closed.

And then Ed punched open the door lol. Oh BONES, how dare you tease us manga fans with a dramatic moment like that.

[CBlitz]

FALCON PUNCH ending was awesome

[ca12nag3]

While watching episode 26, for a split second there I was thinking... "Is BONES cutting out Ed's most important line in that chapter????" when the door closed.

And then Ed punched open the door lol. Oh BONES, how dare you tease us manga fans with a dramatic moment like that.

Yes realy good one isnt it ^^, and then the endtune already started, same as with episode 22 where Winry is crying, and the tune is already started. Its realy artwork id say, since it is easy to just copy past things but the pace in manga is always off, or dragging compared with anime. Its not easy to animate ^^ but good job in this one id say :P

[Renan Enrique]

This episode was freakin' awesome! The ending was just as perfect as it could have been. It was such a pleasure to watch every single second of this beautifully animated piece, even for me, who have been reading the manga chapters as the are realeased in Japan.

I mean, BONES is mastering their work a way I couldn't imagine. PERFECT.

By the way, this was episode 26, will we have nother opening and ending themes w/ ep. 27 or 29?

[ca12nag3]

Hmm well its went 15 eps with the first opening and closing. So i guess 16-30 will be 2nd then 31-45 3rd?

[Renan Enrique]

I've just checked it. The second OP started on ep 15. So, we'll possibly have the third OP on the 29th episode (14 episodes each opening).

[ca12nag3]

ive seen the op and endsong for 27 its diff just check it out ;) ...oh and dont skip the new endsong... its rather..interesting? o well youll see.

[Renan Enrique]

Hey, I liked 'em, really! Btw, it was a beautiful episode \o/

[ca12nag3]

you like the new endsong? well the song is good but what they did with winry... Everyone got to judge for themselves but o well it might be just me that dont like what they did there lol.

[Renan Enrique]

Yeah, you do have a point.

I enjoyed watching another Winry-centered ending, like in the former animation, but, yeah, they kind of changed somethings ~dying - and did not appreciate as well. Anyways, the opening sequence is fantastic once more! Just loving BONES, really. Edward is so... so... well, you got it.

[CBlitz]

links here (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48909)

meh it was recap episode, nothing important went on besides some Hoenheim stuff

new OP was okay, wasn't as good as the last 2

[ca12nag3]

The new openingsong and endsong just need to get used to them :) but they are actualy realy good and not inferior to the first 2 sets.
Also some design changes to the characters but they are minor well... whats minor youd have to say ^^.
Some good shots of Briggs in the new OP that makes me happy too since i realy missed that in the first series that didnt go that far ofc.

[endless_dream]

True...the new opening was okay, not as good the first two...but the animation was great. As for the new ending, I would say I prefer the previous ending...

Somewhere in the middle of the show, where Trisha was encouraging Hohenhiem, I was thinking maybe that "Let it out" will be played...and surprisingly it really did..that was the best part of the episode, apart from the new opening..can't wait for the next ep^^

[ca12nag3]

Tbh i was kinda nervous before the release of the episode cause well they followed the manga line all the time and the previews showed hohenheim at a campfire etc. So im glad its just a minor part of the episode. And that its all a dream of his.
next up will be Ed,Lin & Envy thrue the gate back to the real world, and im looking forward to how Greed will be like animated in Lin. Since he will be a new character sorta.

[destiny4ever]

I watched episode 18 and I enjoyed watching it very, very much. http://www.laymark.com/i/b/b07.gif (http://www.laymark.com)I knew Roy couldn’t have killed Ross; he is not that type of man. And after watching ep 18, I love Roy now more than beforehttp://www.laymark.com/i/o/22.gif (http://www.laymark.com), he is awesome!!http://www.laymark.com/i/o/63.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

But I have a question that I was hoping would get answered on this episode, but it didn’t so I’m wondering if it was answered in the manga…on episode 17, the coroner comes out and confirms that the burned body did indeed belong to Ross based on her dental records, so my question is…how did Mustang manage to pull that (the thing regarding the dental records I mean) off? Why and how did the dummy’s teeth match the ones of Ross if she was alive? I found the answer. :)

[endless_dream]

Yup, that's one of the things to look out for...I'm looking forward to the part where the anime reaches the briggs arc:D

[CopyNinjaKakashi]

Love the new opening sequence! Although not much new happened this chapter, I think there is a lot of meaning in the power of humans that has been discussed in the most recent 5 or so chapters (won't say anymore to avoid spoilers). I can't wait for Briggs!

[THM Nindo]

Well, this "filler" was not too bad, but I still wonder why they did it...
Also, have you noticed that the pace is getting a lot slower! :P

I think that they might just get the feelings that they will reach the manga too soon.
Hopefully, we will not get too much fillers...

[ca12nag3]

The manga is still lightyears ahead and im not sure but the manga might reach its end soon. Were the Brotherhood manga stands now is... about halfway thrue the manga. So it will take another 30 or so epps to reach the end.

[CBlitz]

well actually the pace getting slower isn't true since they're gonna burn through 4 chapters in episode 30...

there was no real significance to this episode than -_____-

[ca12nag3]

Agreed on that its not much of an episode and it shows as most people everywere talk more about the opening-ending then the content of the episode.
Reminds me of the recaps of Tekkaman blade btw ... old old series i used to watch lol.

[Jaime F.]

I wasn't expecting a recap, but I enjoyed it. I thought the episode had a lot of feeling, and emotion, especially towards the end. I also liked how they made the animation realistically dreamlike. The 1st part was kind of nightmarish, but it was cool to see a younger Trisha help motivate Hohenhiem. As for Pinako, even though it was just a dream, I thought she looked to young. If you add Ed's current age to the Pinako in this episode, would she really look that old? I know people's appearances can change in 10-15 years, but that much? Well, I guess I could be wrong, there's a lot of factors to consider. As for the next episode, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing all the action.

[ca12nag3]

she looked just like her younger self from the manga tho, nothing special realy.

[Katz]

Not sure if anyone noticed this but in the new opening, it shows Scar pre-Kimbley incident, I.E no white scar or alchemy tattoo. He still looks pretty un-happy though, typical Scar.

[CBlitz]

I'm not really sure how Pinako managed to shrink when she became old....

[Newkerzy]

"Let it out" playing as the BGM with the Hohenheim/Trisha scene fits them so well!!!

[destiny4ever]

I’m finally all caught up with FMA http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m121.gif (http://www.laymark.com), which means I will be able to join in the discussion of the eps from now on. ^_^

FMA has definitely become one of my favorite anime series http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m208.gif (http://www.laymark.com), I love it!! http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m015.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

It has everything; it has comedy, action, suspense, drama, romance; it is absolutely awesome!!!http://www.laymark.com/i/o/07.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

All the characters are so interesting and complex, you find yourself captivated by them and their respective storylines.

About episode 27…it was a nice episode. I liked how it was focused on Hohenheim and there was more hints suggesting he is the father of the Homunculi. It also made me wonder why Pinako never suspected Hohenheim seeing how he never aged… http://www.laymark.com/i/o/46.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

I’m not very fond of the opening and of the ending….maybe it’s because I still love the previous opening and ending so much!!! http://www.laymark.com/i/o/22.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

I can’t wait to watch episode 28!!
http://www.laymark.com/i/b/b07.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

P.S. I’m a newbie to FMA, I haven’t watched the first anime nor have I read the manga.


I'm not really sure how Pinako managed to shrink when she became old....
I was wondering the same thing…I was also wondering if it was something genetic and if the same thing (becoming chibi) would happen to Winry once she gets older too <_< XD.

[CBlitz]

P.S. I’m a newbie to FMA, I haven’t watched the first anime nor have I read the manga.

read the manga ASAP

[destiny4ever]

read the manga ASAP
I really want to!! In fact, I read chapter 54 and 55 last night since I just could not wait to find out what was going to happen after episode 27. But the thing is, since I’m a canonist, I won’t be able to enjoy the anime to the fullest if I read the manga and then the anime is not exactly like the manga, so I’m a bit afraid of that happening with FMA and since I’m enjoying watching the anime so much…I’m a little hesitant about continuing reading the manga.http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m003.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

[CBlitz]

I really want to!! In fact, I read chapter 54 and 55 last night since I just could not wait to find out what was going to happen after episode 27. But the thing is, since I’m a canonist, I won’t be able to enjoy the anime to the fullest if I read the manga and then the anime is not exactly like the manga, so I’m a bit afraid of that happening with FMA and since I’m enjoying watching the anime so much…I’m a little hesitant about continuing reading the manga.http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m003.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

your reasons are bad and you should feel bad

you've already read some of the manga why not continue? Besides the manga is a bit more thorough in some areas

[ca12nag3]

Well dont be harsh on her she likes FMA brotherhood a lot and doesnt want to spoiler it so its ok to just watch the anime ^^.

[CBlitz]

Well dont be harsh on her she likes FMA brotherhood a lot and doesnt want to spoiler it so its ok to just watch the anime ^^.

lol at spoiling yourself with the manga. But w/e to each their own

[destiny4ever]

you've already read some of the manga why not continue? Besides the manga is a bit more thorough in some areas
You’re right, the manga is a bit more thorough in some areas, like the scenes when Ed and company find Maria Ross in Xerxes and it would be a shame to miss great info and details that happen in the manga and not in the anime. That is why I will continue reading the manga I just won’t do it in one go. I’ll probably watch the episode and then read the next corresponding chapters, just like I did with episode 26.



Well dont be harsh on her she likes FMA brotherhood a lot and doesnt want to spoiler it so its ok to just watch the anime ^^.
Actually, I don’t mind the “spoilers”, what I don’t like is when I read the manga and then the anime is not exactly like the manga. Examples of this could be Vampire Knight and Soul Eater; I hated how the animators took out, modified, and completely changed some important details and scenes from the manga. But since FMA Brotherhood is going by the book, I guess I shouldn’t be afraid of that happening with FMA.

[CBlitz]

lol have you seen the original FMA?

[ca12nag3]

Original FMA anime? Well i think everyone has? lol

[Katz]

Yea, lets not mention the *original* FMA anime around here -rocks back and forth in a dark corner- Brotherhood is all around the better FMA anime.

[CBlitz]

the original FMA was pretty good >_>

well as long as you didn't read the manga

[Kozar927]

The origional Anime was 100 times better then brotherhood and i like the manga the best.
brotherhood feels so rushed and its not dramatic enough for me. The first anime made me fall in love with anime in general. It was so emotional and it seems brotherhood lacks that same power.

Order in terms of best FMA production

1) Manga

2) First anime

3) Brotherhood

[CBlitz]

whaddya talking about, the newer episodes have been plenty emotional and awesome

[Kozar927]

Oh i agree the last couple have been great, but the show as a whole has let me down quite a bit.

[destiny4ever]

lol have you seen the original FMA?
No, I haven’t. I know FMA , both the manga and the first anime, has been around for some time now, but it’s just recently that I’ve gotten into the series. So yes, I’m a total newbie to FMA...well maybe not that newbie since I've watched all 27 episodes now. The only episode of the first anime that I watched was the one that happened in the mines and that wasn’t animated in Brotherhood.

[CBlitz]

Oh i agree the last couple have been great, but the show as a whole has let me down quite a bit.

well I guess they didn't put that much effort into the first 13 episodes because they had already been covered in the original. But the recent episodes were awesome so screw the original :D

[Saint Markus]

already a new opening, a third one at that?. sheesh.
i hate recap episodes, such a waste. i'd rather they not release an episode at all and make us wait week for something new. speaking of which, anyone see episode 28 yet?.

[ca12nag3]

ive seen it raw its good. The recap has no effect on the quality from 28 on ^^. Same pace as the rest so good!