xxxHolic by CLAMP

[kurofaikitty]

hahaha, good point Bookology! i totally didn't realize that. yes, it's in the manga. :D

[xxxfeather]

I wonder what kind of power Watanuki has and how he got it.

Who was that last costumer and what was his or her wish? :?bunny

[xxxfeather]

I'd really like to see Doumeki using the egg. The whole situation on chapters 186 and 187 is unclear (I want to see who's the costumer!). Is he really living there with Wata-kun? *starts thinking about the appron on p. 13* Very suggestive... :hbunny

[Duomaxwel]

As for this customer. I read the theory on it being CCS!Syaoran and I just don't see where this idea came from. I don't really know if I can see it being him. (although, Clamp, please feel free to prove me wrong! I'd love to see that kid!) However I think it would also be cool to see like the vampire twins or something. I mean they had this cool little sub plot in Tsubasa and now they're just gone. I'd like to see Watanuki deal with them.

okay I'm done rambling.

It might of been because in Tsubasa theres a scene that takes place after he takes over the shop with him and CCS Sayoran.

What im wondering is, how is he granting wishes. He doesn't seem to have lots of abilities himself. I wondered if he uses items in the shop. Yuko said the shop was there for "that day" i wonder if it was actually for the day that he took over. Maybe he uses the items and one of them hurt him.

He also seems to still be waiting for Yuko. He says she will return but the dead cant be brought back. So could there be a chance that since its about 4 years later, could there be a 4 yr old reincarnated Yuko running around? Tsubasa had this whole circle of time thing so i wonder if this is a circle to. Yuko had her time stopped until Wata showed up. What if she is being reborn and will show up one day. Anyways enough of my crazy ideas. Hope the next issue comes out soon :)

[kurofaikitty]

there's a scene like that duomaxwell???? D: waht the heck chapter is that in???? show meeeee!!!1
and fyi, according the the laws of CLAMP, via their manga wish, Watanuki will have to wait 100 years for her rebirth. :D

[ZaCloud]

Well, if anyone wants spoilers for xxxHolic, there are some in Tsubasa. :sweat

At least, thanks to the epilogue of Tsubasa which has just ended, I now know the other reason Watanuki made his decision to wait in the shop...

Before, I thought Watanuki was being a bit of a baby. I was mad at him for giving up the life that his friends had worked so hard to get him to enjoy. But now, I have big respect for his decision to wait for Yuuko-san. It wasn't ONLY for that reason after all.

He now has had no parents in the first place. He wasn't supposed to exist. Now more than ever, he and Shaoran are both anomolies. The price he paid in the void, was so that he could continue to exist at all. So despite seeming so unalive, he made it so he could be as alive as possible given his circumstances.

He pretty much belongs in the ethereal existence outside the normal world, in the shop, much like Yuuko... Because he doesn't have a real existence anymore. Much like how Yuuko was at the edge of death, he is at the edge of nonexistence. Waiting is his price, and being in the shop is the place he must do it.

It all fits together now. It's hard to put into words but I get it now. It's amazing...

And Shaoran (well, Tsubasa(m)) has an anchor to the shop thanks to Black Mokona's earring. We finally saw where that went, hehe. Very cool. The crew just might show up. :nod

Watanuki's reasons for what he did, have gone from weak to strong. I respect him once again. Can't wait to see what the future holds for him, AND the Tsubasa crew.

[Duomaxwel]

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/231/01/

This is the chapter where Wata shows up in TC after the latest of XXXHolic.

And the mystery of the earring is solved.
In the Epilogue white Mokona pops it out of its mouth to give to the group.

[ZaCloud]

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/231/01/

This is the chapter where Wata shows up in TC after the latest of XXXHolic.

Well, time flows differently between xxxHolic and Tsubasa. That point was illustrated in how differently things were paced between the battles in Tsubasa, and the decisions in xxxHolic when the two intersected.

So that scene already happened, it's past and done with.

Remember when Watanuki announced his decision to wait for Yuuko and he somehow had his glasses back?

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/184/08/

That's because he got them back from Shaoran (albeit illustrated not as clearly in Tsubasa) when he was in that void. Notice the guy's holding them, even if him handing them over isn't expressly shown.

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/231/17/

So yeah, that scene already happened, it's not in the future.

I just feel like Shaoran and the others might show up for the heck of it; in Tsubasa's finale it's shown as possible... They got Black Mokona's earring, and it anchors to Clow Kingdom AND Yuuko's shop. So they are very likely to end up at one of those places eventually.

[Snowolf]

Okay, now that some mysteries have been resolved from the epilogue of TRC, we now know that:

1.) Earring was released, along with Watanuki's memories.
2.) Watanuki's price- to stay back in time while Syaoran moved forward to maintain a balance and keep themselves from fading with the clones.

Theories:

1.) I have a feeling that Syaoran and Co after the Epilogue will be transferred back to Yuuko/Watanuki's shop where Watanuki must grant their wish(es). This either refers to the customer(s) the old lady was talking about or just new customers along the way.
3.) Watanuki, being a noob at granting wishes and still being a little selfless, might have been hurt either because:
a) he was selfess and decided to take some of the burden of the price, resulting in physical pain
b) he didn't balance the price properly and thus got harmed in return
c) he fell over. okay, so maybe not, but this is Wata we're talking about :D

from what TRC said, it looks like Watanuki must remain in time FOREVER in order to keep the balance...so I'm not sure where this is going. Will he remain there forever even after Yuuko comes back? It makes sense that in order to keep the disturbance of time-space resulting in Syaoran's decision Watanuki must keep living, otherwise the worlds will fall into chaos again. But after reading the epilogue of TRC, it turns out that his price of staying in the shop forever/time was a price to continue living, and in order to keep the balance he needs to keep living...so confusing? Anyone have any ideas?

[xxxfeather]

I had this strange theory which I posted on the Tsubasa thread, about this being the beginning of the loop.

Reorganizing:


Okay, now that some mysteries have been resolved from the epilogue of TRC, we now know that:

1.) Earring was released, along with Watanuki's memories.


We don't know if Watanuki got his memories back, along with C Sakura's memories.

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/232.5/30/

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/232.5/31/

But there's something which isn't logic here:

I remember Yuuko said that Watanuki's name contained a promise... the promise that his parents would come back to find him. The fortune teller said they were waiting for both kids. If we assume that the parents are the clones, what happened with that (remember that the clones turned into feathers and were reabsorbed)?


from what TRC said, it looks like Watanuki must remain in time FOREVER in order to keep the balance...so I'm not sure where this is going. Will he remain there forever even after Yuuko comes back? It makes sense that in order to keep the disturbance of time-space resulting in Syaoran's decision Watanuki must keep living, otherwise the worlds will fall into chaos again. But after reading the epilogue of TRC, it turns out that his price of staying in the shop forever/time was a price to continue living, and in order to keep the balance he needs to keep living...so confusing? Anyone have any ideas?

I understand it like this:
Watanuki now wants to keep living, which is necessary to keep the balance. Since he wasn't meant to exist, he had to pay a high price, an equivalent to life: time along with freedom to balance the worlds stuck in the loop. So, now the worlds move forward and he's stuck in the shop (the cage). I have two theories of how he could escape from it:

a) He could find a void in time

b) Someone could take his place (Yuuko?)

I'll think a bit more about this.

[ZaCloud]

Crazy whacky theory time! Brought to you by the letter WEEEE and the number SAKE!

.......What if Shaoran (er, I know his real name but, it'd be a spoiler) and gang show up at the shop... and Doumeki is to use the egg for them? o.o

After all, he said it wasn't for use on Watanuki... so... maybe for Shaoran? After all, the egg was one which became two , an anomaly. And now Watanuki got one (though he chose to give the egg as a gift), so the other anomaly would be Shaoran getting the other?

Maybe it'll now be "fertilized" and give birth to something for C!Shaoran?

(End crazy theory time.)

[<.Haruka.>]

Maybe it'll now be "fertilized" and give birth to something for C!Shaoran?
(End crazy theory time.)

That would be a nice one :amuse

(crazy theory of mine) about the egg, I'm thinking of two things..
It's either: 1) a key for resolving/finding the clones..(or maybe also yuuko-san)
or 2) it's something you can wish for especially if its a difficult/impossible one...

[kurofaikitty]

wha? but it doesn't show a CCS! Syaoran anywhere in that chapter. D: i still don't know where these rumors are comeing from. and yay, we know where the earing went. can we guess taht his next customers are the Kuro-Fai-Syao gang then? :3
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loool. he definetly fell over snowwolf. :D that's awsome.
anywho . . . no, i don't think so ZaCloud. that egg is DEFINETLY for use either on Watanuki, or something to aid him. so basically, for Doumeki or Watanuki's use. i'm saying this because of the fact that Doumeki is the one holding it, the one having to keep it clsoe to himself at all times. Doumeki has no connection with Syaoran, so this wouldn't make sense. if it was for use on something Syao wanted, Watanuki would hold the egg instead. though that is a nice theory. i beleive Doumeki may have already used the egg, since something seemes to have changed between him and watanuki in drastic measures. as in, he used it for something Watanuki didn't like. i'm still unsure if Dou-chan is even really ageing either. i'm ont he train of a theory that says the egg is to make him equal to Wtanuki in imortality. D:
i think 188 will have the Syao-gang in it. :3

[<.Haruka.>]

I think there is a point that the egg would be used mainly for Watanuki but because he is same as syaoran, there might be an effect for syao as well. I'm hoping that syao & company will be customers (again ^^) in the shop with Watanuki together with Doumeki running the shop.

For Watanuki, meeting with different customers he's like having his journey only not traveling but staying in one place, and its vice versa for syaoran..

[kurofaikitty]

wahahaha! the apron thing was hysterical! the twins did say "welcome home" so if that doesn't mean he lives lives there, then he definetly stas there more often then not. idication by how he takes a shower at Wata's shop in 187. :]

[Snowolf]

<i>loool. he definetly fell over snowwolf</i>

????

Lol thanks xxxfeather. It makes sense. Watanuki seems to have an indefinite existence, so I'm really not sure of what's going to happen to him. CLAMP will probably pull something out of their sleeves again and make all of us scratch our heads. I can count on that at least. :D

There are so many things the egg could be/do...but I do believe that Doumeki could use it on Syaoran, or at least give it to him. We'll see....

[TheDarkestofNights]

When I first read/saw the egg, I thought that maybe it wasn't going to save or help someone, but end their existence, which could be why Doumeki said he couldn't use it on Watanuki, cause he's not going to die... well at least not for a while...
Anywho, I might be totally wrong...

[Tagaticco]

In this Chinese Blog you can have a look at the CHN Scans of Chapter 188 :amuse

Xxx Holic 188 CHN Scans (http://tieba.baidu.com/f?ct=335544320&lm=0&rn=30&tn=baiduPostBrowser&sc=0&z=653847204&pn=0&word=xxxholic&rs1=1)

[xxxfeather]

Here is a translation:

http://littlewolf-forumland.com/showthread.php?p=89712
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Hmm...

this woman looks like the one who almost killed Watanuki. Or is she the same woman?

[aquamaryna]

hahahaha, feather, i drew what i thought happend too! :D then i ahd a crazy dream about it too . . . where Dou-chan used the egg on himself to gain imortality. *thumbs up*

In all seriousness, I've been wondering if that's what the egg does: allow Doumeki to live longer than he normally would have.

What do we know about the egg? It wasn't destroyed by a rain that could destroy buildings. And didn't Yuuko tell Doumeki to always keep the egg on his person--always near his skin?

I could be completely wrong, but my own theory is that the egg is meant to give Doumeki eternal life as long as he continues to carry it. When he uses it, he will return to a mortal life. Should CLAMP decide to have Watanuki stay at the shop for like, centuries or something, Watanuki will at least have Doumeki around for company, even as his other friends begin to die.

Once again, just a theory.

[ZaCloud]

Ooooh... My main theory has been it making him not age too, but I thought that'd be a one-time granting... but your suggestion of having to keep it near to have effects really makes sense! o.o I wouldn't be too surprised if that was it. :D

[Vande]

this woman looks like the one who almost killed Watanuki. Or is she the same woman?

I think the art is similar, but not the same person

[NymphStealer]

07/27 - Young Magazine #35 - Chapter 184
08/03 - Young Magazine #36/37 - Chapter 185
08/17 - Young Magazine #38 - No xxxHOLiC
08/24 - Young Magazine #39 - No xxxHOLiC
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*CRIES*
clamp changed the schedule (http://clamp-net.com/topics/detail/247.html)... WAAAHHHHHH


08/24 - Young Magazine #39 - No xxxHOLiC
08/31 - Young Magazine #40 - No xxxHOLiC
09/07 - Young Magazine #41 - No xxxHOLiC

im hoping they messed up their own stuff and it still showin up on the 24th...
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WTH!?! they change it AGAIN.... clamp-net.com (http://clamp-net.com/topics/detail/247.html)

09/07 - Young Magazine #41 - No xxxHOLiC
09/14 - Young Magazine #42 - Chapter 186
09/21 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 187
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nothin really new other than... well.. more breaks after the next 2 chappys...

09/14 - Young Magazine #42 - Chapter 186
09/21 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 187
09/28 - Young Magazine #44 - No xxxHOLiC
10/05 - Young Magazine #45 - No xxxHOLiC
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hopefully since TRC is done holic wont have many breaks anymore...

10/05 - Young Magazine #45 - No xxxHOLiC
10/10 - Young Magazine #46 - Chapter 188
10/19 - Young Magazine #47 - Chapter 189
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10/19 - Young Magazine #47 - Chapter 189
10/26 - Young Magazine #48 - Chapter 190
11/02 - Young Magazine #49 - No xxxHOLiC

[madsin92]

god just check http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/

[feisu-chan]

did you notice that watanuki keeps repeating things he said before? like the time when he mentioned Doumeki's sudden change in fields, and Doumeki said: how many times do you need to say that? and Watanuki replied: as many times as i feel like...

and then he complimented Kohane about her middle school uniform. Kohane said: You've said that before, Kimihiro-kun.
Watanuki: yup, but i want to say it when i'm happy. however often

Kohane just said "... Kimihiro-kun." with a sad face...

Does that mean anything, considering that CLAMP is the author and maybe implying something between the lines?

or am i just reading it too much that it doesn't really have anything to do with the story or what might have happened during the time skip?

or am i just waiting for the next chapter tooooo long that i'm imagining things?

[NymphStealer]

god just check http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/

i already know about chibiyuuto so does many others... but i'd (not talkin for everyone here) rather get the release dates from CLAMP's website (http://clamp-net.com/topics/) then post them here... that way if there are any typos in release dates i know it was my fault for reading CLAMP's site wrong or makin the typos myself (which i usually catch not long after i post)...

[ZaCloud]

Feisu-chan, I was just figuring that Watanuki isn't taking his friends for granted, and wants to tell them everyday in his own way that he appreciates them. Just like how every day I tell my family I love them, they do the same for me, and I even do so for our pets.

But, there could also be more behind that, intriguing observation.

[kurofaikitty]

ack, is anyone else frustrated that no one has scanlated 188 yet? i have the scans and the trans sitting around in seperate folder right now, so if it's not up by wensday, i'll add them myself. D: i've had them for over a week now. gack.
anywho . . . DarkestOfNights, i've thought that too, but now that we know Wata isn't FWR, i ruled that out.

[NymphStealer]

ack, is anyone else frustrated that no one has scanlated 188 yet?

patiently waitin on cnet trans, then kurokishakai release will be out... hoping it doesnt show up while i sleep... for min was wonderin if anyone even noticed that 188 raw was out (i believe vic put it on an IRC bot... i hope he remembered)... was startin to think everyone was still mournin the end of TRC...

[kurofaikitty]

hahaha, no. i've had the scans for like, evah. :] since i'm just waiting for the syao-kuro-fai gang to pop up in holic nows.

[yue_karasu]

3 things. one hello i'm new with so many ideas.
2 on the observation feisu-chan did about watanuki repeating. i think it actually it means something like sice he can't age, and he stuck in at that age he will remember everyone and everything the way it was since he saw yuuko. his mind isnt moving. i hope you get it.
3 i know it sounds crazy but it also make sence that watanuki is fei wang reed. they are both trying to save yuuko and yuuko said that she is hiding watanuki's location from fei wang. just felt like saying it.

[AssistantSensei]

I found a page that has spoilers for chapter 189. I can't translate Japanese, so someone may have to translate what it says. Google translator will give you a slight gist of what the chapter is about.

http://thelastfruit.blog22.fc2.com/blog-entry-163.html

では続きで今週のxxxHOLiCーｖ
「内（なか）に居ますね」三味線を目の前に差し出された四月一日は、その目で視えたものを伝える。
「ええ。というより、まだ生きてる、と言った方が良いかしら」盲目の女性もそのことをすでに分かっているようだった。
女性は三味線の皮は猫の皮で作られていることを話し出した。そしてその猫は雌の方が良い、と。

びぃーん

女性が三味線を弾くと、空気が振るえ、良い音が響く。「喜んでいるわ。貴方を気に入ったみたいね」十日程前から黙っていた三味線が、店に連れて来たことで良い音を聴かせてくれたことに女性は嬉しそうに微笑む。
びぃーん
だが、その音に四月一日は疑問を持ったような表情を見せた。

「この子が黙ってしまった理由はお分かりですか？」四月一日が尋ねると女性は三味線を抱えて微笑んだ。「この子は綺麗なままこの姿になったから、逢いたいのよ。恋しいモノに」

その夜。百目鬼と共に食後のワインを口にする四月一日。
「どういう事だ」ソファーに立て掛けられた三味線に視線を投げかけ、百目鬼が呟く。その問いに、無傷がいいから三味線には未通の雌猫が望ましいと四月一日が答えると、百目鬼が淡々と話す。「交尾中に傷つけられる事があるからか」と。

恋しいモノに逢えなきゃ鳴らない。そう口にすると四月一日は体を起こし胡座をかく。「猫の恋しいモノねぇ」
素直に考えれば猫だろうが、と言う百目鬼。「そりゃ、直接聞いたほうが早いな」

「夢で」

不敵な笑みを浮かべて四月一日は呟いた。




やはり三味線には何かがとり憑いていた、と。そしてその正体は猫。ま、今回はとり憑くというより、使われている猫の皮にまだ猫の心（？）が残っているという方が正しいのかな。恋しいモノに逢えずに逝ってしまったから逢いたいと。
話としては単純かもしれませんが、またここから厄介なことになりそうですよねぇ（笑）。気になったのは、百目鬼の言うように恋しいモノが猫かどうかということ。・・・個人的な予想ですが、「飼い主」かもー、と。

そして『夢』で猫に直接聞いてみる、と。ここで疑問がふたつ。
①：四月一日は以前にも、夢で遥さんに会ったり、人間以外にも鳥の化け物（？）に遭遇したりしてきました。でも、今までは自分でその力を操ることができたわけじゃないですよね？今ではもうその力を制御できるのでしょうか。うまくできないからこそ、周囲の心配があるのかもしれませんね・・・。
そしてその力を使いこなす練習をしたのならば、どうやって？侑子さんが逝ってからひとりで練習していたのかな。でもさくら姫も雪兎さんに指導してもらってやっとだったわけだし、そんなに簡単なことではなかったはず。もしかしたら夢の中で遥さんに指導してもらったとかかなー。

②：以前侑子さんが消えてしまった時に「アヤカシを見ることもなくなる」と言っていた気がしますが、どうなったのでしょうか。確かにその目で三味線の憑きモノを視ていますよね。猫は・・・アヤカシとまでは言わないということでしょうか。



えー・・・。ここまで、真面目に感想を書いていますが、今週のxxxHOLiCを読んで最初に思ったことはコレ。



四月一日君尋 萌え過ぎる＼(^q^)／

以下さすがに恥ずかしいので隠しー（笑）。ただの萌え語りです（笑）
xxxHOLiCのタイトルが変わってからずっと思っていたけれど、今の四月一日めっちゃ好きです！すごい色気（笑）。ツバサの方でファイの双子が登場した時もテンション上がりましたが、超えたかも（爆）
もともと四月一日はひまわりちゃんのことが好きだからと思っていたこともあって、百×四はあまり気には止めていませんでしたが、なになになになに？！（おまえが何）
今週の「じゃあ浮かれて言えばいいのか」のセリフに反応する四月一日とか、「猫の恋しいモノねぇ」のセリフの四月一日とかで、もう自分の中で何かが弾けた！そして舞い上がった！！＼(^o^)／
ずっと侑子さんが妖艶に振舞っていたのは、四月一日をより色っぽくするための布石だったのか！！←

この辺り アニメ化されないかなー(>_<)この色っぽい四月一日を福山さんボイスで聴きたくないですか？！（隣の府に向かって聞いてみる・笑）
以上でした＾＾； こんなことブログ書くのは初めてかな？（汗）200海里くらい引いた方ごめんなさい(>_<) 土下座。

And I'll just post the Google translation, 'cause it'll be faster than having you do it yourself. :)

More in this week in xxxHOLiCーv
"In (among) the craftsmen it" day in Watanuki outstretched in front of the shamisen, the Case of vision in eyes that convey something.
"Yes. In fact, still alive, I wonder how good I said," seemed to already know that a blind woman.
She resumed the skin of a shamisen is made in the skin that cat. The cat and the female is better, and.

N Byi

And the woman playing the shamisen,振Rue the air, the sound sounds good. "I will be glad. I guess you liked" The shamisen was silent before the date 10 women that did sound good to hear that brought a smile happily shop.
FIRST! Byi but one day Watanuki showed the expression of sound with a question.

"Why this child is lost in silence Could you tell us?" Watanuki is the day the woman asked, smiling faces the shamisen. "This child from this figure was still beautiful, I Aitai. To miss things,"

Night. Watanuki to speak with after-dinner wine Domeki.
"I mean things" cast a glance into the shamisen立Te掛Ke the sofa, muttering the Domeki. The question, the shamisen from intact and say good day in April and one female cat should not copy, light Domeki the people said. "I have things from damaged during mating" and.

逢Enakya to miss things you hear. Day in Watanuki so if you eat the body causing胡座scratch. "Hey miss the cat thing"
If you think a cat would be straightforward, Domeki said. "Yeah, I heard a rather quick to direct"

"The Dream"

Watanuki is呟Ita remarked with a smile.

Shamisen憑they were still taking something, and. Their identity and cats. Well, this time rather than taking憑Ku, cats still in the skin of the cat's mind is being used (?) And that what is right to left. Aitai and tear from逢Ezu's gone to miss.
May be simple as saying, Hey It's going to be nasty from here (laughs). Came to mind is that whether you wanted to say cat Domeki goods. ,,, Is a personal expectations, "owner" Oh be, and.

Dreams 『directly and ask to cats, and. Two questions here.
①: Watanuki is the day before, or met Haruka's dream, a monster of a bird other than human (?) Or have been encountered. But until now it is I'm not able to manipulate its own power? What can now control the power anymore. What can not work, you may have concerns around.
If you master the exercise of its power was, and how? What was the practice of one's gone from Ms. Yuko. Because he finally got to the Princess Sakura and Yukito's guidance, but it would not be so simple. I asked her to instruct or Na Haruka's maybe in a dream.

②: Yuko's when I lost my previous "no longer have a look at Aya oak" and say that I feel, what's happened. I It is the vision of things that certainly shamisen Demonic. Aya oak and cats until I tell you that.

[Lady Sakura-chan]

Maybe she is Yukos`s sister or something like that. It is Clamp, people you never know.

[Snowolf]

Lol I didn't get the translation at all, but something about cats. And a Dream. And Watanuki goes to see Doumeki.

....*waits desperately for someone to translate*

[xxxfeather]

I thought it was about the instrument, which doesn't play.

[Uozumi]

Thanks for providing us with updates from CLAMP's site, Nymphstealer.

I'm just glad Tsubasa wrapped so hopefully that will open the door for faster updates on 'holic.

[DrunkDragon]

It seems xxxholic is going to keep ongoing. I thought it was going to end this year but with the change in the title to xxxHolic Rou or cage it seems it'll continue for a while yet. Which I don't mind at all.

Even if they change the title its not like they are starting a new series and starting at ch 1 but making it a part two like Tough where later in the series it was Tough 2nd or so.

[kurofaikitty]

It's fianlly up on onemanga now peoples. and i'm sure mangafox too and all that jazz. anywho . . . aww, Doumeki left. but he will be back! woot! does anyone else thinks that lady looks like the one who nearly killed Watanuki that one time forever ago? (the one Doumeki shot with the arrow.) the way wata-chan reacted kinda hints at that, though it could jsut be because she's blind.

[xxxfeather]

Finally!!! I've been waiting so long for the English scans. :tem


does anyone else thinks that lady looks like the one who nearly killed Watanuki that one time forever ago? (the one Doumeki shot with the arrow.)

I do, and posted it on the spoiler thread. Could it be just coincidence or hitsuzen? :?bunny

[feisu-chan]

^^^ yes, the girl looks awfully familiar... but this girl looks younger than the one Doumeki shot... gah! no doumeki today... doumeki's out to buy groceries... mmmmm.... but what's up with that "... so he is free after all.", Watanuki?

good to know that Doumeki can check up on Wata every now and then... maybe the egg really is a life-extender for Doumeki so he can accompany Watanuki in waiting for Yuuko even after 50 or 80 or 100 years after... at least watanuki doesn't have to wait alone, if that is the case...

[kurofaikitty]

on mangareaders now. (that's where i saw it first this time. :D)
anywho . . . EW! A CAT!?!?! aww . . . poor kitten . . . *sniff* omfg, It's a fai/Sakura kitten! D: jsut kidding . . . anywho . . . go get a pupppy by that notion, Wata-chan.
i fricken love Doumeki this chapy. :D :D how he jsut glares at the cat-thing, and then talks about sex like that, making Wata-chan so nervous. looooolll . . . silly Wata. anywho . . . Doumeki spends the night there a lot, doesn't he. . . *runs off to write a fanfic about it*

[DontWakeMeUp]

189 TRANSLATION:
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/287340.html#cutid1

[xxxfeather]

It's on One Manga now! *fangirl scream*

It seems that Watanuki is able to control his dream ability, so he doesn't fall asleep everywhere like he used to. I wonder if the shamisen thing has somehing to do with the color page on chapter 1. There's Watanuki dressed like a black cat, with a bell. Yuuko has a chain that is connected to it, and seems like she's his owner.

Maybe he'll transform into a cat. How weird! Cool, but weird. Everything is possible with CLAMP.

Is it just me or did Himawari disappear? Four chapters and still nothing about her.

[feisu-chan]

Watanuki's pulling Yuuko's robes off... ahahaha.... he looks funny lying on the floor like that - and even smoking... Doumeki's funny.. to say it so calmly like that... sarcastic ass... and yeah, it does seem that Wata can travel to the dream world rather flawlessly... maybe he's off to meet Doumeki's grandfather too, maybe he can help wata figure it out...

ish! waiting for the next chapter is painfully painful...

[xxxfeather]

Did anyone else notice that cats have minor apparitions in the manga?

*On one of the colored pages in chapter one (which I explained on my last post).
*The cat girl that appeared on chapter 85 and on the first page of chapter 116.
*The apron that Himawari gave Watanuki on chapter 133 had a cat cartoon on it. That was the same apron he used on chapter 186.

Coincidence? I don't think so. It could be his symbol, as purple butterflies were Yuuko's ones.

[cari-hime]

maybe you're right!! wata's new symbol..? but what would that mean?? i think the butterflies were change or something like that..
anyway... CLAMP loves cats! i think they got 2 and both of them have appeared on their mangas...
wonder what they're up to now??
and where is himawari??? i wanna know!

[kurofaikitty]

hahaha, i always think of the Cat as Watanuki's symmbol. (that's why i call him Wata-Kitty. lolz) he definetly is a cat, and if he turned into one for the dream, i would die almost happy. (almost, cause he hasn't hugged Doumeki yet. lol)
and yeah, Himawari? i'm starting to think she might have died or something, the way watanuki's acting might have to do with that.

[xxxfeather]

maybe you're right!! wata's new symbol..? but what would that mean?? i think the butterflies were change or something like that..
anyway... CLAMP loves cats! i think they got 2 and both of them have appeared on their mangas...
wonder what they're up to now??
and where is himawari??? i wanna know!

Well, according to some sites, cats are a symbol of independence, pleasure, magic, pride, guardianship, sensuality, vanity, independence, and some other things I don't remember now. But there was a page which says that cats "teach that the physical and spiritual worlds are not separate, but one" (so, cats=wholeness). Other one said that they're guardians of the "other world" and keep the secrets of that world to themselves because others don't see or understand the depth of their knowledge.

Ok, I think I exaggerated with the reasearch; but this really fits Watanuki. There are too many coincidences that it's a bit scary. Any ideas of what will happen next?


hahaha, i always think of the Cat as Watanuki's symmbol. (that's why i call him Wata-Kitty. lolz) he definetly is a cat, and if he turned into one for the dream, i would die almost happy. (almost, cause he hasn't hugged Doumeki yet. lol)
and yeah, Himawari? i'm starting to think she might have died or something, the way watanuki's acting might have to do with that.

It'd be so cool if he transformed into a cat! I want to see those 190 chappy scans to check the theories. :hbunny

About Himawari, I have no idea, Kurofaikitty, but your theory could be possible. :?bunny

[NymphStealer]

190
chinese scan is up http://www.imanhua.com/comic/151/list_38405.html?p=1
japanese summary up http://thelastfruit.blog22.fc2.com/blog-entry-169.html
and i think [ju-ni]vic raws are gonna be a day late this week due to his work schedule...

[<.Haruka.>]

I just found chapter 190 (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/190/) on english

I'm just curious what will be the use of that shamisen..

[howi]

Folks,

If that so, I think Watanuki should have got 9 lives!

[xxxfeather]

I just got more confused. So, that woman, is she the cat or not? It seems so.

[kurofaikitty]

no no no. the cat used that image to help wata-kitty understand better. :] she's not the lady. Douemki tho . . . lol. "strike!"

[Lady Sakura-chan]

What are they going to do? Well, we`ll se in the next chapter...MUHHAAAHHA.

[TheDarkestofNights]

I don't know about anybody else, but I got chills when Watanuki said the line Yuuko is so famous for saying.

[feisu-chan]

guys, chapter 191 is now available at onemanga!!!doumeki looks hot in the cover! *fangirl! & off to read manga!*

[Asmoden]

Maybe is only my impression but don't you think watanuki have lost a little of his charakter since he becomed the owner:(
And how can he make his job witout exit the shop area if it keep going on the storyline is gonna become boring:oh
Not to mention he don't have any special powers like the previous owner:s

[howi]

Asmoden,

Greetings.

Watanuki may not have a lot of "special powers" but at least, he can still meet the spirits in his dream, remember?

I agree with you that Watanuki seems to be a little out of his character, perhaps it is the "side effect" of four years spent in the shop... just go with the flow and let things come to him, instead of chasing after things. He is still the same Watanuki, but all his friends are helping him all along even he cannot leave the "cage".

Watanuki now understands more on how to grant wishes... persistent is not the same as stubbornness. Making an effort is one thing, making the "right" effort is far more important.

[<.Haruka.>]

Yuuko won't leave the shop to Watanuki if he is not capable to handle the place. True that yuuko had strong special powers though wata seems to inherit the shop probably a bit early so let's wait that we might see something surprising about him...(as I expect from clamp)


guys, chapter 191 is now available at onemanga!!!doumeki looks hot in the cover! *fangirl! & off to read manga!*

Definitely Doumeki's hot in the cover :amuse (wish it's on color pages though ^^)

[xxxfeather]

I wonder who that man is.

Butterflies... maybe FWR?

What we know is that he was one of Yuuko's costumers, since the plectrum wass there and that he seems to be dead or have disappeared or some sort of event like that.

[idlemind009]

so sad that yuko is gone now, watanuki is doing a great job so far. He has already granted the wishes of two clients ! Something occured to me. Watanuki is really intending to wait until time and space resolves itself back to when yuko will re-appear. That friggin crazy!

[<.Haruka.>]

Who was that man that appeared during the dream-like scene when the wish was fulfilled?


Maybe he was someone who is very dear to the shamisen player.
The butterfly might symbolize a spirit of a departed person.

But definitely that guy was mysterious, it would be much better if he is more than just an ordinary customer in the shop..

[Evil Mind]

The man is the Plectrum with a butterfly that crumbles, not an actual person, or I believe. This story was about a shamisen's and plectrum's love affair.

[oralyon]

is there anybody who as been a bit deceived by xxxholic lately ?. I mean we had a long arc with the cooking lady where little happened for the lenght of that part.

Then we had the "Day that must come" so hyped throughout xxxholic by Yuuko, but in the end what was it ? The day she would die and pass the shop to watanuki. Don't get me wrong that turn of even is good and I have nothing against it, but for something that has been so much hyped, I was hoping for something bigger than just Watanuki seeing Yuuko getting eaten by random darkness. Then he make the STUPID decision of waiting for Yuuko, which bassically go against everything that Yuuko wanted, since she told him to keep on living.

Then the shamisen arc begin and we still don't really know where it heading.

Oh and the man that we saw when the shamisen broke. I believe it what the shamise, thaking the form of Doumeki in a dream. Watanuki said that people take certain form in their dream in order to be understood.

I mean, I'm sure that there are reasons behind all that and it may be great when we will get them, but I wish we could get them faster. xxxholic just develop at such a SLOW speed.

[watanuki01/04]

I still think that Shaoran (tsubasa, whateva his name is) still has a huge part to play in this story. We also have Doumeki and the egg mystery to be revealed. And doesn't anyone else think it strange that we have yet to see Himawari?

[xxxfeather]

I think it'll be like this (nothing really "big" will happen) until the Tsubasa group makes its appearance at the shop (I think they will go there someday since they're still traveling through worlds). But I have no idea of what could happen after that.

Nothing about Himawari yet? How weird!

[zilch100]

I'm not sure that the "Day that must come" and the reason why the the shop was created, "for that day" are the same. If not, the former would be when Yuuko disappeared & Watanuki inherited the shop. The latter would still be coming up; perhaps it is for when the egg is used. The shop/storeroom itself is important - I wouldn't be surprised if it still has a significant role to play. In fact, I'd be somewhat disappointed if it didn't.

On a side note, what do you think would happen if the shop didn't have an owner? There's a lot of powerful, magical items in it.

It is significant that the man's face wasn't shown in the vision that Watanuki saw when the plectrum struck the shamisen. In T.R. Chronicle, Shaoran's parent's faces were not shown in the picture ... because they changed & because it would have spoiled the climax of the plot. So I think it is someone we know. Watanuki also seemed surprised when he saw the man. Did he recognize the person? Is it himself?

I think that Shaoran/Tsubasa and crew are showing up next because Mokona said that they needed sake for 6 (though Watanuki took it for multiplying): Watanuki, Mokona, Doumeki, Shaoran/Tsubasa, Fai, & Kurogane. So...they're coming and Doumeki will be there with the egg. I think that the egg is for Shaoran/Tsubasa & crew...that what is born of it may perhaps be the solution that Shaoran/Tsubasa is looking for that will also release Watanuki. Because they are the same & Doumeki said he couldn't use the egg for Watanuki.

Personally, I like the shamisen arc. :-) It's interesting to see Watanuki at work as the shop owner. I also like that he has changed because that's a big theme in xxxHolic, that people meet and change comes from that meeting.

[Joei]

xxxHolic has been really dissapointing for a while now. It doesn't seem to know where it's going.

The only thing i have liked is how in the latest chapter Mokona mentioned how Watanuki grants wishes but either takes too much or too little and that it hurts him. It's interesting that he is having to get used to operating the shop. But other than that....I find everything really uninteresting.

[watanuki01/04]

Chapter 193 is out on OneManga!


We find out why Watanuki is getting hurt when he grants wishes. Plus, we get an update on what the Tsubasa guys are up to!

[oralyon]

Finally some interesting informations !

Now all we need is another giant snake/soul stealer/spider queen/crazy mom/other monster for some action andthat will be perfect !

[cari-hime]

i think we could see the tsubasa gang soon ^^ that would be absolutely awesome! i cant wait!!!

[cari-hime]

Yeah!! there's a new OAD comin out!
this time, it's a OAD of xxxHolic-Rou! check out the website here http://kc.kodansha.co.jp/tsubaholi/

The new OAD will be released with Volume 17, on April 23rd the next year.
It will be a unique 40 min presentation which will have a door closed pre-premiere among those who book the new volume until Feb 8th, 2010. It'll also feature special illustrations. Nanase Ohkawa will write the script and CLAMP will also illustrate the DVD cover.

Isnt this amazing??? I love it! I just hope that CLAMP decide to animate the Clow Arc from TRC too.

[Tsukisama]

I'm glad that some resolution came to the shamisen story. I am not entirely certain whether or not there was any special significance from Watanuki's conversation with the shamisen owner in the beginning of the chapter. It certainly feels like something important was said between them, but I couldn't pinpoint it. Anyone have any ideas on that matter?

We at least get to find out later from Mokona a little about Watanuki's current situation. Apparently he is not demanding enough (or sometimes too much, but Watanuki seems like the type who would more likely ask less), and this is having adverse effects on him. Do you think the broken plectrum was enough of a price? Watanuki seems to think so, but the reaction from Mokona makes me think it might be too little.

It was also nice to gets some updates on the Tsubasa travelers. We can probably expect them to reenter the story (if only for a little while) in the future (perhaps after the next couple of story arcs). So, they are currently in Piffle. I wonder what brings them there. Any thoughts on that? I can't really think of a good reason for them to return to that world beyond that they are just visiting places on their journey, but there might be some significance from them being mentioned as being there.

[Asmoden]

I don't get why he have to personally pay when he ask to little (he is alredy in loss...).
And is it really possible he whon't never again be able to exit the store... whith this we will miss his friends or maybe he can in order to grant a wish?:oh

[feisu-chan]

i think the point of the Shamisen arc was to show how Watanuki is still Watanuki - being that he would refuse to accept other people's most precious things as their payment so he settles on a lesser value... Which in turn hurts him...

Mokona said that a balance should be maintained by having payments of the proper value - or at least that's how i understood his statement. If Watanuki accepts a higher or lower value than the proper price, he will be facing some consequences, paying for the excess or the loss of balance... i think...

Oh well... at least there's a hint that the TRC guys are coming over, ihope...

But, WHAT?! no Doumeki-kun?!

[ZaCloud]

It was also nice to gets some updates on the Tsubasa travelers. We can probably expect them to reenter the story (if only for a little while) in the future (perhaps after the next couple of story arcs). So, they are currently in Piffle. I wonder what brings them there. Any thoughts on that? I can't really think of a good reason for them to return to that world beyond that they are just visiting places on their journey, but there might be some significance from them being mentioned as being there.

Well, they did say that they got Kurogane a new arm. So that was probably why. That world was the one with high enough levels of technology that it could be done.

[Tsukisama]

Well, they did say that they got Kurogane a new arm. So that was probably why. That world was the one with high enough levels of technology that it could be done.

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for the response. So, that was probably the reason it was mentioned then. I was hoping that there would be something deeper to be revealed (which is still possible, but your explanation seems like the most likely cause for it being mentioned :)).

[ZaCloud]

Yaaaaaaaaay! Finally! I've been wondering when they're gonna make another OAD!
*happydance*
:clap2:clap:whoo:dance:jbya:woot:confetti:occa:woo:spaz::turtle:headbang:pmg

I really do hope that means they'll do more Tsubasa ones too; I love both sides of the story, and would love to see all of them in motion.

But... it does say 'Rou' at the end, doesn't it?... So does that mean they're gonna skip the finale of the original xxxHolic and skip straight to Yuuko already being gone with merely a flashback of her departure or something? That'd be a bummer.

Kinda like how they skipped some of the best arcs in Tsubasa... I still hold out the thin hope that they'll go back and animate what they've missed... but it looks like they're only jumping on what's currently on the market. Me, I'd prefer they do the whole thing, on both series, on principle.

We'll see... I'll hope for the best. And either way I know I'll enjoy it regardless.

[<.Haruka.>]

I'm just curious how & when they'll use the mokona(s) earring where memories are kept...

I guess, it must be a few more chapters until the tsubasa gang arrives at the shop once more :)

[ZaCloud]

I'm just curious how & when they'll use the mokona(s) earring where memories are kept...

Well, the Tsubasa gang are already using it as we speak. In the end of Tsubasa, White Mokona already said that the memories it contains act as sort of an anchor to the worlds that the group visits. They'll be more likely to end up in places they've been to before, or places that will hold some kind of significance to them, thanks to the power of memory in that earring.

So it's not really being unsealed, but just by being there, it helps reduce their chances of just ending up in random places. And will guarantee that they'll eventually end up back home, because "memory" binds them to their homes.

[Nataku27]

Well done, thanks for the information ^^

[Snowolf]

exciiiiited.

i hope they don't skip out on the ending of xxxHolic though. that's important.

[NymphStealer]

update

11/02 - Young Magazine #49 - No xxxHOLiC
11/09 - Young Magazine #50 - Chapter 191
11/16 - Young Magazine #51 - Chapter 192
11/21 - Young Magazine #52 - Chapter 193
[hr]
sorry didnt post this few days ago... been super busy w/ holiday plannin and sons school stuffs..

11/16 - Young Magazine #51 - Chapter 192
11/21 - Young Magazine #52 - Chapter 193
11/30 - Young Magazine #53 - No xxxHOLiC
12/07 - Young Magazine #01 - No xxxHOLiC

[Vande]

From the bottom of the latest chapter:

The next chapter of xxxHOLiC: Rou will go on sale 21st December. An extra-long chapter with colour pages!

That's one long break....

[xxxfeather]

Chapter 193 is out on OneManga! :amuse

There's an interesting conversation between Haruka and Watanuki which involves Yuuko.

No more Holic until December 21st :crying

[xxxfeather]

Ooohhh!!! Great! :amuse

*starts jumping* :dance

I want to see Rou animated. That'd be so cool! :cheerbunny

By the way, I hope they don't skip the ending (chappy 183-185). It will seem incomplete if they do so.

[oralyon]

I'm sure of something now.

Watanuki is Clow Lead or FWR or both. The similarity are just too huge. He has huge magical power. He swear to wait for Yuuko. His apparence is overall similar.

If he isn't one of them he's clearly linked to them.

I would even go farther and take another guess. Maybe the egg wil be what will somehow give birth to FWR. Maybe, "Nothing will born form that egg" means that this egg will only bring destruction, which could refer as FWR existence.

At least, I'm sure that FWR isn't a relative of Clow. I'm pretty sure that he is something that is born from Clow.

[xxxfeather]

The whole story is getting really weird right now:

1. We have Watanuki, who is now trapped in the shop granting wishes without taking a "fair price". He has no early memories, his time is stopped, he shares an eye, and wants Yuuko back. Plus, it was said that a big power was sealed into him, something that comes through bloodline. Looks like FWR, or Clow.

2. The black mokona doesn't have its earring anymore. Why did it give it to the Tsubasa gang?

3. Now it seems that Haruka-san had previously met Yuuko, and Watanuki too, in some way. I wonder if he had done it before he died or not. The most important thing is that she told him to take care of him. Maybe something bad is going to happen.

4. Still nothing about Himawari and the purpose of that egg. Any thoughts?

Ok, I don't know where this is going. But that word "sealed" seems strange. Like he didn't have any power, but now he does. Or he had such a strong power that it was dangerous for him.

My theory is that if he's not FWR or Clow, then he could be Clow and Yuuko's son and something happened to him during the loop; so he ended up being RSyaoran's other self, or he could be a part of CSyaoran (only one eye, no early memories) or he could be another character (for me it seems like he's "part of someone" rather than "someone". The weirdest thing is that there's no Watanuki in other worlds (or we haven't seen them).

I think I should read Holic from the beginning during the one-month break.

[oralyon]

Watanuki cannot be Clow and Yuuko son. It would be so unlike Clamp. Yuuko and Clow do not have a son. + we already know who Watanuki is. He is Syaoran.

The earring was given to the tsubasa gang for reasons explained in the epilogue of tsubasa.

i have no idea where Himawari could be. Clamp probably wouldn't have gave up on her.

It was never said that Watanuki has met Yuuko after her death. All we know now is that she contacted Haruka (probably before her death) and ask him to protect Watanuki.

I'm all for Watanuki being Clow/FWR, but it kind of come out of nowhere. No hint were ever given toward thinking that Watanuki could have sealed powers.

I'd also like to repeat myself and point another detail point Toward Watanuki somehow being FWR. FWR couldn't get out of his place. I wonder if FWR's place could somehow be Yuuko shop.

[xxxfeather]

It was never said that Watanuki has met Yuuko after her death. All we know now is that she contacted Haruka (probably before her death) and ask him to protect Watanuki.

I was talking about Haruka, if he had met Yuuko before or after he died.

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

The point where Yuuko meets haruka is in the manga, here (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/170/09/). You can see she's wearing the same kimono.

About Watanuki having magic, seeing as he has the same existence as Syaoran, he's descended from Clow, and Syaoran has magic too.

I think the implication in the new pages from tsubasa 28 is that FWR was the result of Clow's wish.

Kurogane: But,
Why was he broken?

I definitely felt the shock from killing him.

Fai: I don't know.

But,
Fei Wong...he too may have been a copy that something created.
------------
!!! page 20
Fai: Not a person,
But a strong thought.

Or maybe the afterimage of the wish of someone with strong magic.

So not Watanuki. And unless something REALLY weird happens with time, Wata just can't be Clow.

[oralyon]

Well something weird could very well happen with the time. It's not like it didn't already happened. And where exactly is that passage in tsubasa, I don't remember it. But what they say is that FWR may be something created
That prove that he isn't a simple human but it doesn't mean that he is like any other creation. I don't think Watanuki will be FWR. But I think he will be Clow. And I believe FWR will somehow be created from him (maybe with the help of the egg).

And also, thanks for the part where Yuuko meet Haruka. That make me realise that we still don't know what the "butterfly dream" is. It's probably not only for Watanuki to keep on living.

[cari-hime]

It's not good that they're skipping the whole finale. I agree- it's pretty much like Tsubasa...
I wonder how they're gonna make it though, there's not enough ROU material yet. I guess it'll be more until then
I only REALLY hope for more Tsubasa OADS!! And perhaps Wata will meet Yuko by then, i hope **

[cari-hime]

YaYY 4 this chapter!
Now I'm pretty sure that Wata has to meet Yuko again- eventually- at some point! I can hardly wait...
I do believe that Clow created FWR unintentionally though.

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

The bit from tsubasa is from some new pages that were included in volume 28 but not in the chapter published in the magazine. You can get them on chibiyuuto.

[oralyon]

Care to post the link ? I can't find it.

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

Here's (http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/556714.html) the pages, and here's (http://starlady38.livejournal.com/296275.html) the translation

[oralyon]

Thanks.

Well that pretty much confirm what I was saying. FWR is something that was either created by Clow or Watanuki. Watanuki, most likely.

[<.Haruka.>]

I think the journey of tsubasa gang would be more of watanuki & syaoran self-searching (maybe about their existence especially watanuki)

Wata is more likely to be a descendent from either clow or fwr but he couldn't be either of the two (..hopefully)

Anyway back to the recent chapter.. Haruka is right, Wata should take care of himself if he wants Yuuko not to be sad (wherever she is).

[TheDarkestofNights]

The way I read it, it sounded like Watanuki always had an enormous power, and that somebody (Mayhap FWR) sealed it, so that Watanuki had no access to it. The power of his eyes was left so that he could see the ones attracted to his blood, so that he could avoid them and not get eaten. Because that would be sad. And I would Cry. Just like I am doing now 'cause I have to wait for another 3 weeks until I can be xxxHolic land again...
Maybe I will re-read it over My holidays...

[ZaCloud]

Well, since Clow is known for reincarnating on and off... Watanuki could very well be a Clow reincarnation. Clow had powerful powers, so does Watanuki. The resemblance was openly noted. Watanuki is a paradox of existence, and it could be argued that Clow would easily fit into things as such. His soul could easily have taken up the position as Shaoran's place-holder when the wrinkle occurred. And lastly, it would have been like him to gravitate into a life where he could meet Yuuko again, since he had wanted so strongly to be with her.

That would match both him coming to meet Yuuko in the first place, and then Watanuki's mild obsession to see her again. Watanuki himself barely registered much life outside of Yuuko's cut-off existance, and any people she put him in contact with. So in a way his very existence revolved around Yuuko, and was wrought by Clow's inner desires.

[oralyon]

No... You're ignoring the fact that Watanuki is Syaoran. Born from his wish to wind back time. That mean he can't be Clow reincarnation. He will become Clow. That's the only explanation for him meeting Yuuko again. And the perso who sealed Watanuki powers isn't FWR but Yuuko.

[[Ju-Ni]Vicissitude]

Wish I'd checked the thread before I went to pick up Young Mag. :s

[shaheer]

hei guys 194 is out in OM check it out here (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/194/)

[Reidluver]

I can't believe what happened! The whole time I was wondering why there was so much focus on the pipe, and then as soon as the bunny asked for Watanuki to say "You may enter" I knew there was going to be trouble. Watanuki, how could you be so stupid?! I sure hope that the pipe fox and Doumeki will be able to help him out.

That being said, I liked that the spider woman came back. I was wondering what had happened to her after she took Watanuki's eye. And it's exciting because now there is going to be a little bit of action going on in the shop.

Last note---anyone else really enjoy the colored pages? It was a really rich color.

[ZaCloud]

Oh yes, the color pages were beautiful. And despite not much "happening" in this chapter (until the end of course), seeing the details of workmanship of the pipesmith was atmospheric and pleasant in its own way. So many nowadays don't appreciate the value of hard work or the talent of a professional. So it was refreshing to see that crafted for us in such loving detail.

Plus the bunny is cool! And it was good to see a supernatural interact with Watanuki again. ^_^

And now the spider lady returning... a big twist! I'm intrigued and looking forward to how this'll play out!

[xxxfeather]

Ahh, finally chapter 194. I needed to read manga desperately.


I can't believe what happened! The whole time I was wondering why there was so much focus on the pipe, and then as soon as the bunny asked for Watanuki to say "You may enter" I knew there was going to be trouble. Watanuki, how could you be so stupid?! I sure hope that the pipe fox and Doumeki will be able to help him out.

I agree with Reidluver. I thought this was foused on the pipe or on Watanuki's dream and then the spider queen comes back. There's going to be a lot trouble here. I wonder what he's going to do now, since Yuuko is not there to protect him. I hope she won't kidnap him or something worse (take his other eye?).


Last note---anyone else really enjoy the colored pages? It was a really rich color.

I do. Those pages look so beautiful. :cheerbunny :clap2

[shaheer]

eh i dont think she will do any thing bad , rather i think she ll have a request or sth. somehow i doubt the bunny would request in her steed to watanuki, since watanuki seem to to know her a lot

[Snowolf]

OOH. This was a great chapter. It started off very usually, but I loved seeing another supernatural being. He kinda reminded me of the Fox's oden shop thing.

OH. AND THE END. WHY ISN'T IT NEXT WEEK? Uh oh. Looks like Watanuki-kun is in trouble indeed. And I think it may have to do with what the bunny said- if you stay in a dream too long, you might not be able to come back. Is that what they're planning to do?

I can't wait!

[ibra87]

Updated. Just a heads up to people, check Fail Manga (http://failmanga.wordpress.com/) (a scanlating group) for downloads of newest chapters released, if you don't feel like reading the chapter online like on OneManga.

[idlemind009]

Watanuki has made a big boo-boo.

The lady has no need to enter the shop, which is why she needed his permission to enter...she was able to do so because bunny ears spoke on her behalf, she knew that they payment for the pipe wouldn't be enough.

What could she possibly want ? what could be her wish ?

[<.Haruka.>]

The last page was a nice cliffhanger :amuse

Hopefully the Spider lady won't bring much trouble to Watanuki & others...
Although she's not just an ordinary customer, granting a wish from her... it might be a challenge for Watanuki...

[ZaCloud]

But, if she needed permission to enter, then that could mean that she doesn't have a wish (because then, she could have just entered on her own). Scaryyyyy..... (but it's still possible it was for a wish, I keep either possibility open).

[Snowolf]

Maybe there are only two ways to enter the shop:

1.) if you have real desire/wish.

2.) An invitation from the owner himself. Za may be right that she doesn't have a wish, but perhaps she does...I can't really tell. She may not want to cause harm to Watanuki, but she may have a selfish desire that he wouldn't liked to have granted...but I think despite the wish asked, if it's in your power you must grant it, right? But retribution will come either way...at least, that's what the beginning chapters of xxxHolic were about. :D

[feisu-chan]

OMG! that's the spider-girl? I didn't even recognize her if i didn't read your comments on this thread! it has been a long time since i read about her... oh well, that's great then! we'd be getting more action! and i hope next chapter, there'd be doumeki! and mokona! too bad they're not here in chapter 194!

[<.Haruka.>]

Maybe there are only two ways to enter the shop:
1.) if you have real desire/wish.
2.) An invitation from the owner himself. Za may be right that she doesn't have a wish, but perhaps she does...I can't really tell. She may not want to cause harm to Watanuki, but she may have a selfish desire that he wouldn't liked to have granted...but I think despite the wish asked, if it's in your power you must grant it, right? But retribution will come either way...at least, that's what the beginning chapters of xxxHolic were about. :D

Yup, I guess your right on no. 2 also :)
but I don't want to think that Watanuki would easily fall to Spider lady's trap or something...
Can't wait what will happen next :amuse

[Watanuki I luv u !]

:facepalm I was thinking the same thing by the way does anybody know when will the Ch 195 come?:)

[Vande]

Don't suppose anyone knows if there was a chapter due this week?

[ibra87]

Fist chapter should come around 4th January, so unfortunately no.

[kurofaikitty]

haven't been comenting lately cuz th achpaters were boring . . . but . . . SPIDEER!!! NOOO!!! DOUMEKI! HELPS!

[Vande]

195 is now up on OM, you can find it here (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/195/)

[ZaCloud]

Wow........ just wow.

Watanuki looked so quietly defiant and sarcastic concerning the spider woman! He wasn't scared, he wasn't angry, just sarcastic and confident! I got a chill and squealed, hehe, it's really cool! He really is becoming a lot like Yuuko-san, and yet it's also his own brand of maturity as well.

It was so weird seeing him that way... and yet so awesome! He won't be pushed around at all. The foxfire comments were to let the guest know that he's in charge here. Such backbone!

Their little conversation started off incongruous, each with words unrelated to what the other said. But then with the wine, they came together. Then.... really together. :fan

(Weaving out and in like a... spider's web. Man CLAMP, you're masters of storytelling!)

I think that's why she keeps saying he's "gotten cute". He's gotten confident and assertive. And on some level, that's attractive. :nod

Yaaaaaaaaay pipe-fox! I was wondering where the little cutie's been! About time he returned! *squeeee!* Man, I want one! All the cute windiness of a snake, all the snuggly fuzziness of a fox, all the affection of a pet! I'd just be worried that it tickling on my neck might make me squish it cuz I shrug when I'm being tickled. :sweat

Things are moving toward high interest in this chapter! Now I REALLY can't wait for more! :XD

[xxxfeather]

Oh wow!!! :jawdrop



Watanuki looked so quietly defiant and sarcastic concerning the spider woman! He wasn't scared, he wasn't angry, just sarcastic and confident! I got a chill and squealed, hehe, it's really cool! He really is becoming a lot like Yuuko-san, and yet it's also his own brand of maturity as well.

It was so weird seeing him that way... and yet so awesome! He won't be pushed around at all. The foxfire comments were to let the guest know that he's in charge here. Such backbone!

I think that's why she keeps saying he's "gotten cute". He's gotten confident and assertive. And on some level, that's attractive. :nod

Yaaaaaaaaay pipe-fox! I was wondering where the little cutie's been! About time he returned! *squeeee!* Man, I want one! All the cute windiness of a snake, all the snuggly fuzziness of a fox, all the affection of a pet! I'd just be worried that it tickling on my neck might make me squish it cuz I shrug when I'm being tickled. :sweat

Things are moving toward high interest in this chapter! Now I REALLY can't wait for more! :XD

I'm a bit confused. I read an early translation in which the Jorougumo said that Watanuki wasn't cute anymore. :confused:

And the kitsune is so cute. Aww... I wanted to see it again and I want one too!!! It's like having a guard, a pet, and a plush toy that you can carry in a pipe. :hbunny

Definitely interesting!!! :mokona

[<.Haruka.>]

If there is anything cute in this chapter (*talking to the spider lady*), its the pipe fox :amuse

Watanuki being that confident over his customer... he must be prepared or had something in mind for Spider's lady request... (can't wait for the next chapter :amuse)

[C5555]

I do have to agree, Spider lady. Yaay, Mugetsu's back! Let's both shower Watanuki with an inifinite number of hearts. <3333

I wonder how he's going to look for this pearl...

[feisu-chan]

i LOOOOOVE the interaction between the spider lady and Watanuki! Wata really has gotten cute! and that panel (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/195/09/)was really hot!

i can't wait for the next chapter... pipe fox is so FLUFFY! can we buy a toy of him somewhere? i want to try it around my neck too!

[ZaCloud]

I'm a bit confused. I read an early translation in which the Jorougumo said that Watanuki wasn't cute anymore. :confused:

Ahhh, well that's possible... I'd hafta glance at the original Japanese to know if one of them got it wrong (I has no time, sowwy). Maybe someone confused a "na(i)" with a "ne" or something.

If she thinks he's cute, it's gotta be the assertiveness. But if she thinks he's not cute anymore, then she probably had more of a thing for the shy uncertain type of moe.

Either way, our little Watanuki's grown up...:darn

[Apotheosis]

After I read this chapter, I looked back at the comment the rabbit made last chapter, the second panel down on the left hand side (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/194/06/).

Do you think it would hint of a future relationship between Watanuki and the spider lady? (I have to admit it would be an odd couple)

It might have just been playful talk, though before 275 came out, I thought this was a subtle clue that the spider lady may have played some romantic role... and in some ways, she did.

[ZaCloud]

Hmm, any news on the next chapter release? The blurb for the next issue was edited out of the scanlation, and I can't find a raw currently without joining other forums.

*is so eager for moooore!* :nod

[xxxfeather]

Hmm, any news on the next chapter release? The blurb for the next issue was edited out of the scanlation, and I can't find a raw currently without joining other forums.

*is so eager for moooore!* :nod

I think it comes out on the 18th. http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now

I can't wait!!! :mokona

[frostmourne4]

I have put together what I believe to be the closest thing to a working timeline(s) that Tsubasa/Holic is capable of. I also included CCS stuff since it's linked. It contains some guess work on when some of this took place and includes stuff that must have happened to make sense without being explicitly mentioned. Watch out for spoilers.

Timeline 1
-Clow Reed is born
-Clow Reed creates the cards, Yue, and Kero
-Clow Reed meets Yuko
-Clow Reed and Yuko meet Mokona of Cephiro
-Clow Reed and Yuko create the two Mokona Modoki Soel and Larg
-Yuko nearly dies, Clow Reed wishes for her not to die, Fei Wong Reed is created
-Clow Reed creates Kinomoto Sakura's staff
-Clow Reed dies
-Sakura-hime and C!Syaoran are reincarnated
-Sakura-hime and C!Syaoran are married
-Seishiro meets Kamui and Subaru
-Li Tsubasa and Tsubasa-hime are born
-Li Tsubasa travels to Clow Kingdom
-Clow Reed is reincarnated as Kinomoto Fujitaka and Hiragizawa Eriol
-Amamiya Nadeshiko is born
-Hiragizawa Eriol halts his aging process
-Kinomoto Fujitaka and Amamiya Nadeshiko are married
-Tsubasa-hime is cursed
-Kinomoto Toya is born
-Kinomoto Sakura is born
-Li Syaoran is born
-Kinomoto Nadeshiko dies
-The events of CCS
-Li Tsubasa fails to break the curse on Tsubasa-hime and wishes to go back in time to save her, Kinomoto Sakura gives Sakura-hime the Star Wand to use as payment
-Timeline 2 is created, Timeline 1 is destroyed

Timeline 2
-Clow Reed is born
-Clow Reed creates the cards, Yue, and Kero
-Clow Reed meets Yuko
-Clow Reed and Yuko meet Mokona of Cephiro
-Clow Reed and Yuko create the two Mokona Modoki Soel and Larg
-Yuko nearly dies, Clow Reed wishes for her not to die, Fei Wong Reed is created
-Clow Reed creates Kinomoto Sakura's staff
-Clow Reed fakes his death and travels to Clow Kingdom to replace King Fujitaka
-Sakura-hime and C!Syaoran are reincarnated
-Youou is born
-Youou's family is killed, Youou is taken in by Princess Tomoyo, Youou changes his name to Kurogane after coming of age
-Sakura-hime and C!Syaoran are married
-Seishiro meets Kamui and Subaru
-Watanuki Kimihiro is born
-Sakura-hime and C!Syaoran are created, Li Tsubasa and Tsubasa-hime are imprisoned in a cut-off time of Clow Kingdom
-C!Syaoran is taken in by Archaeologist Fujitaka
-Adult Sakura-hime and C!Syaoran fake their deaths and are sealed in a pocket dimension
-C!Syaoran meets Seishiro and learns fighting skills
-Queen Nadeshiko dies
-Archaeolgist Fujitaka dies
-Clow Reed dies
-Clow Reed is reincarnated as Kinomoto Fujitaka and Hiragizawa Eriol
-Amamiya Nadeshiko is born
-Hiragizawa Eriol halts his aging process
-Kinomoto Fujitaka and Amamiya Nadeshiko are married
-Kinomoto Toya is born
-Kinomoto Sakura is born
-Li Syaoran is born
-Kinomoto Nadeshiko dies
-The events of CCS
-Watanuki Kimihiro begins working for Yuko
-Sakura-hime's soul is scattered in the form of feathers
-Fay and Yuui are born
-Fay and Yuui are imprisoned
-Fay is killed, Yuui is freed, Yuui begins using Fay's name, Yuui is cursed, Yuui is taken in by King Ashura, Yuui is given his sealing tattoo
-Sakura-hime, C!Syaoran, Kurogane, Yuui, and Soel begin traveling together
-C!Syaoran and Kurogane gain the swords Hien and Sohi, C!Syaoran begins learning swordsmanship
-Watanuki Kimihiro and Doumeki Shizuka begin sharing an eye
-Watanuki Kimihiro falls out of a window and is rescued by Doumeki Shizuka, Himawari Kunogi, and Yuko
-Events of TRC's Tokyo arc (also takes place earlier in the timeline)
-Himawari Kunogi is given a small bird named Tanpopo, Doumeki Shizuka is given an egg from Tokyo
-Sakura-hime is 'killed' when Yuui's curse activates, her body and soul are taken to seperate worlds
-King Ashura is killed, Sakura-hime's body is recovered, Kurogane loses an arm and Sohi, Celes is destroyed
-Kurogane gets a new arm and is given his father's sword Ginryu
-Sakura-hime's soul is destroyed, C!Syaoran's soul is activated
-Li Tsubasa, Kurogane, Yuui, and Soel travel to to the cut-off time in Clow Kingdom
-C!Syaoran is killed, C!Syaoran and Sakura-hime are reincarnated (also takes place earlier in the timeline), C!Syaoran and Sakura-hime are released from the pocket dimension, Fei Wong Reed is killed, Yuko dies, Watanuki Kimihiro takes over Yuko's shop, C!Syaoran and Sakura-hime merge with Li Tsubasa and Tsubasa-hime resulting in Syaoran/Tsubasa and Sakura/Tsubasa
-Timeline 3 is created, Timeline 2 is destroyed

Timeline 3
-Clow Reed is born
-Clow Reed creates the cards, Yue, and Kero
-Clow Reed meets Yuko
-Clow Reed and Yuko meet Mokona of Cephiro
-Clow Reed and Yuko create the two Mokona Modoki Soel and Larg
-Yuko dies
-Clow Reed creates Kinomoto Sakura's staff
-Clow Reed dies
-Youou is born
-Youou's family is killed, Youou is taken in by Princess Tomoyo, Youou changes his name to Kurogane after coming of age
-Seishiro meets Kamui and Subaru
-Syaoran/Tsubasa and Watanuki Kimihiro begin existing, Sakura/Tsubasa is born
-Syaoran/Tsubasa travels to Clow Kingdom
-Syaoran/Tsubasa meets Seishiro and learns fighting skills
-Clow Reed is reincarnated as Kinomoto Fujitaka and Hiragizawa Eriol
-Amamiya Nadeshiko is born
-Hiragizawa Eriol halts his aging process
-Kinomoto Fujitaka and Amamiya Nadeshiko are married
-Kinomoto Toya is born
-Kinomoto Sakura is born
-Li Syaoran is born
-Kinomoto Nadeshiko dies
-The events of CCS
-Watanuki Kimihiro takes over an unowned shop
-Sakura/Tsubasa's soul is scattered in the form of feathers
-Fay and Yuui are born, Yuui is born with a curse
-Fay and Yuui are imprisoned
-Fay dies, Yuui is freed, Yuui begins using Fay's name, Yuui is taken in by King Ashura, Yuui is given his sealing tattoo
-Sakura/Tsubasa, Syaoran/Tsubasa, Kurogane, Yuui, and Soel begin traveling together
-Syaoran/Tsubasa and Kurogane gain the swords Hien and Sohi, Syaoran/Tsubasa begins learning swordsmanship
-Watanuki Kimihiro and Doumeki Shizuka begin sharing an eye
-Watanuki Kimihiro falls out of a window and is rescued by Doumeki Shizuka and Himawari Kunogi
-Sakura/Tsubasa leaves a feather in the reservoir in Tokyo, (also takes place earlier in the timeline)
-Himawari Kunogi is given a small bird named Tanpopo, Doumeki Shizuka is given an egg from Tokyo
-Sakura/Tsubasa is 'killed' when Yuui's curse activates, her body and soul are taken to seperate worlds
-King Ashura is killed, Sakura/Tsubasa's body is recovered, Kurogane loses an arm and Sohi, Celes is destroyed
-Kurogane gets a new arm and is given his father's sword Ginryu
-Sakura/Tsubasa's soul is retrieved
-Sakura/Tsubasa's final feather is retrieved in Clow Kingdom
-Syaoran/Tsubasa and Watanuki Kimihiro begin paying their prices to continue existing
If there are any problems, tell me and I will try to fix it.

[xxxfeather]

i can't wait for the next chapter... pipe fox is so FLUFFY! can we buy a toy of him somewhere? i want to try it around my neck too!

I think there are toys of it.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs17/300W/f/2007/195/8/5/xxxHOLiC__Pipe_fox_by_rallamajoop.jpg

But I have no idea of where those toys can be found. :scry

[ZaCloud]

I think there are toys of it.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs17/300W/f/2007/195/8/5/xxxHOLiC__Pipe_fox_by_rallamajoop.jpg

But I have no idea of where those toys can be found. :scry

Well, as you can see in the URL, that was posted on Deviantart by the user Rallamajoop. She created that herself, so I don't know of any commercial/official ones.

But, she does have a tutorial on how to make one yourself, and sells the plushies at certain conventions she goes to, and might take a commission online to do another for you (Though please read her blurbs and see if she still accepts them before bothering her, I'd say make one yourself if possible since the tutorial's available for free).

Here's her main Dev-art page:

http://rallamajoop.deviantart.com/

*squee's at the army of pipe-foxes! X3333333 Cute overload!*

[thefolenangel]

chapter is out here ~ http://franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11027

[idlemind009]

blue moon stone is very precious as it helps symbolize that everything is in fact everything. As people , we are all connected to other people, and no matter how brief the meeting, people affect each other. The red moon, is a symbol of blood, in the bible it is said that the red moon is a sign of the end. when the moon can no longer bear he sins of man, she will cry tears of blood. the lady jurogumo cannot be trusted, it will be interesting to see how watanuki deals with the most negative person...ahem...spirit he has yet to encounter. xxxholic is surely walking a darker path, yuko always provided a safety net from everyone, but in her absence can really handle this ? much in the way yuko would.

is anyone into tarot cards ? yuko is so like the high priestess. I used to think yuko was somehow evil HAH!, the joke is suttle yet predictable, with her liking hot spicey foods during the hottest days of summer. lol.

but yuko is not the high priestess as depicted in the tarot, but yuko does drink with her whenever she can, "cheers to you ",
[hr]
xxxholic is a special anime, the wisdom contained in the first episode is just astounding, watanukis transformation is also astounding,

[Snowolf]

196 is officially up guys! You can read it here (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/196/01/).

So, what did you guys think? I personally loved this one. I wonder what Watanuki saw.....and what the Crimson Pearl is doing in that place!

merged the two threads together

[Vande]

Thanks Folen :)

Hmm i wonder who is the woman was in water basin that watanuki saw...

[ZaCloud]

I'm super intrigued indeed! :nod Interesting change of go-getters in terms of Kohane-chan and Doumeki-san heading for the scene. Even though her eyes are still so sad, she's got some spark hidden deep inside. I'm really happy to see that. ^_^ Hope she doesn't get hurt with whatever's going on.

It's awesome that Watanuki's power shared with Doumeki's eye works by will now. Wata-san's gotten so strong! :XD

And it was sooo adorable when Mugetsu bristled up at seeing/smelling the spider's web. X3 So protective of his Wata-sama, lol!

I have no idea what's going to happen now... So intriiiiigued!

[Snowolf]

I wonder what Watanuki saw in the basin...it looked like a curtain to me, but I'm not sure...is it a person?

[Vande]

I wonder what Watanuki saw in the basin...it looked like a curtain to me, but I'm not sure...is it a person?

I was pretty certain it was a woman. I maybe wrong :p

[xxxfeather]

I was pretty certain it was a woman. I maybe wrong :p

I think it was a woman too. The thing that Watanuki saw in the basin looked like part of a dress.

[idlemind009]

yuuko intriged me from the very beginning but now watanuki has really become a inspiration for me....he is becoming a man, he is very much like the fool in the story of the tarot. With yuuko being like the high priestess he is becoming very wise. Hes my new hero.

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

Have been skulking around for a while, can't remember the last time I posted.

I love seeing Kohane, she's definitely one of my favourite characters in all of holic, and she and Doumeki have such a good friendship (omg the flashing line has reappeared. I can actually see where I'm typing!). And I liked Watanuki's outfit. =D

And now on to ranting about how much it's all been bugging me lately:

Is it just me or does holic seem to have lost it's sense of direction somewhat? We had all this build up, and yes something happened, but not what had been built up to. I mean the egg.
I just feel like I'm reading all these new chapters waiting for something to happen and it's ruining the experience a little. I love seeing more of all the characters, especially watanuki being so grown up, though my favourite moments of him are where you see him being his old self, and I maintain that all the kimono make him look like a male prostitute (it worked on Yuuko because she was just cool like that. And, you know, female), but I'm at a loss to see where CLAMP is going with it all. If rou is really a new story then fine, but it's so wrapped up in the old one it'd be nice if they concluded that one first. These new story arcs are cool, but they could go on forever without leading to anything, it's like all the tension got created and now isn't quite sure what to do with itself and so is manifesting in all the other characters (as in, not Wata) making quasi-significant comments.

It appears to be past midnight *ahem*. I think I'll go to bed now.

[watanuki01/04]

Hello everyone! Its been ages since i last posted but the apartment building that Doumeki and Kohane arrive at reminded me of the chapter in the first volume with the lady who trying to quit the net.
Check it out! Doesn't it look the same?

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/8/12/

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/196/16/

[xxxfeather]

Hello everyone! Its been ages since i last posted but the apartment building that Doumeki and Kohane arrive at reminded me of the chapter in the first volume with the lady who trying to quit the net.
Check it out! Doesn't it look the same?

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/8/12/

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/196/16/

It looks the same, but it might not be the same building. Remember the shamisen lady who looked like the one who almost killed Watanuki.

But, if it is, why? I mean, could they be trying to reconnect all the cases? :?bunny

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

Well if it's not the same building i'd be surprised because it is COMPLETELY IDENTICAL. It even has the same neighbour with the round lights.

[ZaCloud]

Shirubia: Hmmm, even though I love this series and won't stop doing so, I agree with the points you brought up. Then again, it's hard to tell how it flows as a narrative when it comes out so periodically. I didn't see the egg as a buildup, but more as one of those things that'll reveal itself when the time is right. But, it did get a lot of focus, so I can see how it'd also feel like a buildup.

I still think things will all come together in the end, but it might be a long wait. The story has a more drifting approach now, but that's largely because Watanuki himself is drifting, floating, waiting. He used to flow with time, and time moves forward. But now he's drifting in stopped time while the world around him moves on. I guess I'm prepared to deal with the different flow, being because HE is in a different flow.

But with this possible new link to the previous story, things might get pulled into that epicenter Wata-san's formed.


Hello everyone! Its been ages since i last posted but the apartment building that Doumeki and Kohane arrive at reminded me of the chapter in the first volume with the lady who trying to quit the net.
Check it out! Doesn't it look the same?


Wow, great observation watanuki01/04, it looks the exact same! :blink While there's a small chance that it's just the same apartment complex but a different building or room... it looks WAY too similar to be a coincidence. And yeah, we all know there IS no coincidence... ;)

*is in even more suspense now!*

[frostmourne4]

If you look, even the building next to it and the power lines over head are the same. Either Clamp's getting lazy and reusing art or that's the same apartment complex.

[TheDarkestofNights]

But maybe the resembalance the two apartment building are supposed to signify something, rather than CLAMP being lazy? We first saw a similar apartment building in the first arc, but with Yuuko as the head of the shop granting wishes, but not leaving (or rarely leaving), with Doumeki and Watanuki going to th sites. And a similar apartment, but now it's Watanuki as the shop master, and Kohane-chan and Doumeki going to the sites....
But maybe I am just putting to much thought into it, and it is just a coincidence... but then again, thats usually not the case with holic, yeah?

[Flipper]

Hello everyone! Its been ages since i last posted but the apartment building that Doumeki and Kohane arrive at reminded me of the chapter in the first volume with the lady who trying to quit the net.
Check it out! Doesn't it look the same?

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/8/12/

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/196/16/ I also noticed that at first, but in retrospect I realise that it's identical; I wonder if the lady with internet related issues is going to reappear. I'm happy to see some connections to earlier parts of the story, hopefully it'll start picking up a bit more as of now!

Really loved the new team of Kohane and Doumeki (it was nice to see that Watanuki was still with them though in an indirect way); though it was kind of weird to not see Watanuki accompanying Doumeki on this "expedition".

I doubt it's a coincidence, Clamp put a lot of attention to detail, and I'm sure it has some significance.

[idlemind009]

what does yuuko stuff into her pipe after she grants every wish ?
[hr]
Does anyone else thinks its a clear reference to marijuana ?
[hr]
I wonder if that is one of the big secrets of the show, aside from watanuki and doumeki clearly homosexual relationship ( I mean I havent seen heterosexual men, share a love as strong as theirs. even before Watanuki's accident).

I wish I could ask her.

[idlemind009]

no, I believe we too have the power to grant wishes. She is not a God, she is just like us.

[idlemind009]

well think about. the white moon (which is very often associated with God aka the Holy Spirit aka the Sacred Mother etc, etc, ) represents spiritual purity. The crimson moon must of course symbolize filth, the same muck and filth that constantly tried to bring Watanuki down. Who would posses such a filthy object and how would the enviroment of such a thing be changed ? So the Lady had to use Watanuki to find and steal this object.
I think the Lady knew where it was, but she couldnt get it on her own. Could the woman/figure watanuki saw in the basin be a spirit more filthy than lady jurogumo!?

The usual doumeki/watanuki pairing is now being replaced by kohane chan and doumeki. Kohane chan can still see spirits but doumeki still cannot although he can sense them and reject them.

hopefully no one will get hurt.
[hr]
now watanuki through another dream has entered into a past space...the previous occupant also held a certain object, which was crimson red. It was not an evil object but a very precious one ( her child's high chair, the price she paid for her computer addiction was all the memories she would have had with her child, feeding him in the chair), but a strange girl is in the dream and she can see watanuki...who is she and what does this mean.
[hr]
watanukis and doumeki's relationship is weird. Watanuki dares to blow smoke right in his face OMG ? and he just sits there... ?
[hr]
just a thought ? could the red pearl be a person ? "...person, mankind, people, ...people are the worlds strangest creatures".

[Vande]

New chapter is out here (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/197/01/) enjoy.

[ZaCloud]

Ooooooh boy!

I KNEW Doumeki still had the egg! At least I suspected... but having it confirmed is like, whoah.

And and and... man, Watanuki's so powerful, able to "go" somewhere in dreams.

And and and... she could see him! O_O

My intrigue grows by leaps and bounds with this story! I'll be even more impatient for the next chapter!

(And did the blurb in the corner say the new OAD will be out February 8th? That'd be friggin sweet, not much longer if that's the case)

[feisu-chan]

waaah! fangasm... errand boy still has the egg! and wata, you can't stare him down, errand boy will leave if errand boy wants to... :wtf *serves doumeki more warm sake*

that devastated girl in the last page, she's a new character, right? i haven't read xxxholic for a while and i forgot some of the supporting characters and all characters almost looked alike for me at this point... sheeesh! i hate it when i have to wait for manga chapters...

but great chapter! Watanuki can enter dreams! great! but i don't like cliffhangers if i have to wait for week[S]!

[Vande]

I find it intersting that it's the same block that the PC lady lives in. I wonder if they are related.

[howi]

Folks,

Hmm... something odd about this building, even Doumeki looks not all comfortable. Would the time to reveal the secret of the egg finally come?

Last time, Yuuko used the "red" baseball bat as "Zantetsuken" to help the housewife (on the 1st floor?) with net addiction. This time, the spider woman wants Watanuki to find the "crimson" pearl and lead him to the top floor. The woman who can "see" Watanuki... dead person?

[xxxfeather]

The official website has some sceneshots.

http://kc.kodansha.co.jp/tsubaholi/holic17/special.html

Suga Shikao's song "Kazenagi" wil be the ending.

http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/576478.html

It was so sad...:scry:crying

[ibra87]

Chapter is out on http://failmanga.wordpress.com/ go grab it to see what's going to happen next in the arc of the crimson pearl.


Oh, and feel free to discuss it here and predict what's to come~

[watanuki01/04]

Trailer is out! Go to the official website to find it. Link is above

[ZaCloud]

It's also up on Onemanga. Thanks for the alert. :nod

Whoah... I can't believe she can totally know he's there! But now she'll have seen him just disappear or something too! But yeah, when you get all emotional in a dream it can wake you up. Poor Watanuki-kuuuuun! That'd be so frustrating! :facepalm

I don't get what the lady was saying though, about the pain and "trying to tell them" and stuff... Dunno if it was just that vague or what... :blink

But then...

Awwww... *squeeee!* I'm all happy cuz Himawari-chan has been keeping in touch with all of them after all! And she still makes Watanuki-kun smile. :XD

I mean look at him! He doesn't smile like that for anybody else. It's that special Himawari-smile! X3 That's why I like her; she makes our Wata-chan so happyyyy! :nod

How little has changed between them after all. Even his pouting when she mentions how well he n Doumeki get along, hehehe! I love it. It's so reassuring to see how all three of them get along just the same, even when their circumstances have changed so drastically.

Such a comforting second-half of a chapter! :amuse

[<.Haruka.>]

Its just sad that Himawari couldn't meet Watanuki personally but I guess they're still keeping in touch :amuse
It's just that injured girl in Wata's dream... she looks like someone who might bring them in trouble or maybe the one who could help regarding the crimson pearl...

[frostmourne4]

Did something seem strange about the way we didn't see Himawari's face on the other end of the line even though we saw her phone?

[ZaCloud]

Did something seem strange about the way we didn't see Himawari's face on the other end of the line even though we saw her phone?

Hmmmmmm....... oooooh..... good point dude. :blink

I couldn't think of the reason that Watanuki would be so bothered by the last words on the page... but... if something might be wrong with her that would be a possible reason for the layout not showing her, AND for his concern... :o

Wow, now I'm even more suspenseful... Good observation.

[cari-hime]

wow i cant believe how much i've missed on the last months o.o
i hate exams (grrr!!!)
anyway, im totally lost with the woman that Wata met in the dream.
i think someone's hitting her? what's up with that????
i looooooved hearing from Himawari though. I've been hoping that she wasnt just gone for some nonsense reason.!
and i wonder if there's somethin wrong with her... i really hope not.

[Tsukisama]

The latest chapter is out on OneManga. Additionally, you can check this site (http://failmanga.wordpress.com/) provided by ibra87 from the last chapter's thread.

Use this thread to discuss the events of this chapter and predict what is to come in the next. :hb

[Vande]

Watanuki x Himawari <3
I think this is the first chapter her first name is used....

Cliffhanger chapter, how evil :p Nice to see it out early though.

[xxxfeather]

So, they love each other.
That was soooo cute!!! :lovebunny

What do you think that "crimson pearl" is? I think is blood or tears.

I wonder how that woman met the spider lady and who captured Watanuki. Hope that's not a trap. :worrybunny

[watanuki01/04]

OMG, I had a proper fan girl moment just now! Watanuki is in Kobato episode 17!! Only for a small bit, but it was still great to see. There were loads of links to Holic in it. Doumeki's Temple and Mokona Land!

[watanuki01/04]

It really was cute!! Anyone notice that Watanuki is seperated from Himawari like TsubasaShaoran is from TsubasaSakura?

Oh, and check out my thread on the new Kobato episode! It has Watanuki in it!

[<.Haruka.>]

What do you think that "crimson pearl" is? I think is blood or tears.
I wonder how that woman met the spider lady and who captured Watanuki. Hope that's not a trap. :worrybunny

It might be both but i'm guessing it could of blood...

Now i'm more interested on that crimson pearl's origin
and also Himawari's nature against the shop...
There might be some other reason why only on Watanuki's birthday she could come except for the fact that its Wata's special day...

Anyway, it was a cute chapter although somehow sad because of their separation (WataxHimawari) (yeah it somehow reminded me of Syaoran & Sakura and on the last chapter of TRC where Sakura chose to be left behind on Clow country because of the dream she had and also that tube during those first chapters of trc...)

Hopefully, Wata won't be caught in a trap on that apartment...

[ZaCloud]

Whoah, that was early! :o

....Yay!!!! :XD

There was so much I got excited about... It's still suspicious that they didn't show Himawari-chan even during her little love confession.... but it was a LOVE CONFESSION!!!! :XD :XD :XD :XD It was so adorable!!!! X33333333

I danced around the apartment, hehehe. I haven't exactly been a shipper of the couple, but I always acknowledged how Himawari-chan made Watanuki-kun so darn happy, so seeing his sentiment returned is super special awesome for him. ^___^

But yeah, simultaneously so sad how they're separated, and can only be in touch so briefly. So beautiful and tragic at the same time...

I was surprised in a grimly pleasant way when Watanuki was able to re-visit the lady in the run-down apartment; he'd worried before that once he left he might not be able to return. Whether that meant return to his body, or return to that place, I'm not sure, but at least he's there for another round.

Unusually abrupt stopping though; an almost whiplash of a cliffhanger. :sweat So meeeeaaaaan, CLAMP! :kukuku Well.... just more suspense!

[xxxfeather]

I just checked this thread on Manga Fox.

http://forums.mangafox.com/showthread.php?t=143829

:huh :worrybunny

So, does this basically mean that WataxHima is platonic? T-T

Anyway, the confession was too direct.

[ZaCloud]

Urgh... yeah... looking at the original speaking it appears it's still not a definite confession after all. @_@

Now I feel foolish for getting so excited, heh... But I hadn't figured the translator would make such a simple mistake/assumption when they get so much else correct that's much more complicated... I mean, that's elementary stuff right there, even I would have gotten it right had I read the Japanese, and that's sad with how little I know...

Good point to bring up. It was still cute and very sincere, but... Blargh. I should have known though, it seemed awful odd for CLAMP to do such so easily. I'll still leave my past embarrassing happy outburst though since, well, it was how I felt at the time. :sweat

Still cute, but yeah, the translator assumed way too much...

[xxxfeather]

Really? I watched it until episode 4, I think. I love the ending, it's so cute. I'll check ep 17 right now!!! ^-^
[hr]
Oh yeah!!! I almost screamed, though he appeared for 30 seconds or so. And he was wearing his Rou clothes!!! :confetti

But his design and the shop's were different. I assume it's because of the studio. And Ioryogi landed in the pond in Doumeki's shrine. Plus, Mokonaland (but it was written with a "c").

[bookology]

I was watching CCS and there is one episode where Mizuki says to Touya that "There is no such thing as coincidence in this world. There is only the inevitable" . Mizuki was the one who loved Clow-Eriol Right...?

[uekipheonix]

Well imo, Wata x Hina is not a good cuple. And this is xxx Holic so I dont hink hey will foucus more on these stuff any way, xD

even tho daisuki can be taken ether way the 2nd part was a fail of fail manga, lol


Doumeki: Kunogi really cares about him.
Mokona: So does Watanuki. // He's working really hard, using all the techniques he's learned... / ...to try and make the shop even a little more accommodating for her.
by CNET

[watanuki01/04]

Yeah, Mizuki says that in the Manga if i remember rightly. She was probably taught that by Eriol. Makes sense as Clow spent a lot of time with Yuuko.

[feisu-chan]

Himawari x watanuki... Doumeki X mokona... :3

haha... was it really platonic? that daisuki thing? hmmm... either way, it's ok if they ship together... and i'm glad that watanuki is doing so many things to keep the shop "accomodating" for Himawari... XD

[xxxfeather]

Hahaha!!! That was so funny ^-^ :clap2 :mokona :Haha

Can we post links to fanfics here, too? I remember I read a Tsubasa-Holic truth or dare fanfiction that was so good I just couldn't stop laughing.

[ZaCloud]

Hehe, thanks.

I don't see why not; if it involves xxxholic and it's a fanwork then go for it! :nod

[xxxfeather]

Ok. Then, here's the link:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5011071/1/xxxHOLiC_and_Tsubasa_Truth_or_Dare

It's really long... 22 chapters, I think.

[xxxfeather]

It's on One Manga now!!!

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/200/

Yeah, chappy 200 Yuppiiiii...!!! :confetti



I'm really sorry to hijack this thread, but if anyone feels like downloading this chapter you can find it at http://failmanga.wordpress.com/

[ibra87]

So, I'm really curious what the lady is... Seems like she's lonely and timeless. I have a strong feeling she'll play some huge role in the future with Watanuki being able to relate to her and all.

[<.Haruka.>]

Atleast we know now that the crimson pearl is from that injured girl's tears,
but she's still a mystery and maybe the role of the crimson pearl too...

[howi]

Folks,

And the saga continues... Last time, we have got the blind lady with the mysterious shamisen that will work in perfect harmony with a very special plectrum. This time we have got a mysterious lady, who has not aged (like Watanuki now), with a crimson pearl made of "sadness"...

One was happy to find the other half; One was sad to lose the other half.

But why does the spider woman want Watanuki to get this crimson pearl for her? Why does she need it?

BTW, I have checked with another translation and find this English version by LittleWolf-Angels have got some discrepancies in certain dialogues. However, it is quite common for many manga translations. I am still grateful for their sharing. Wish that I can read Japanese in the first place.

[watanuki01/04]

Hi everone, long time no speak on the TRC forum!

I was watching the end of Kobato episode 19 that has just been released and it looked like Fai and Mokona was in the small clip fro episode 20. I know this episode was written by Nanase Okawa from Clamp, but can anyone confirm that what i saw was true? Is it Fai?!

[Vande]

201 is out on One Manga, go enjoy :)

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/201/01/

[watanuki01/04]

Watanuki is suffering a lot by himself. It was so sad to see!

[xxxfeather]

Watanuki is suffering a lot by himself. It was so sad to see!

Oh yeah. :crying Even though, it's impressive that he still cares about others.

That spider lady is so annoying. :mad I wonder what she will do and what will happen to the woman in the apartment (did she really eat mermaid's flesh?).:jawdrop

And the pipe fox is soooo cute!!! It really looked like a brush. Kudakitsune rocks!!! ^-^ :mokona :bkitty :yourock :clap2

[idlemind009]

http://www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/maj02.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ROCj2WMZKZ0/StgzZX24VrI/AAAAAAAAAAw/2rBNIaSG_FE/s400/chapitre+0+cover.jpg

http://klinanime.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/holic.jpg

http://files.myopera.com/L%C3%AAPh%C6%B0%C6%A1ng/albums/337132/Dragons%20-%20Tiger%20Dragon%20Yin%20Yang.jpg
[hr]
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/88397/1/Jacob-Wrestling-With-The-Angel-1855.jpg
[hr]
http://www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/maj08.jpg
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http://tusharmodak.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/nova_pbs_elegant_universe_brian_gre.jpg

[<.Haruka.>]

That spider lady is so annoying. :mad I wonder what she will do and what will happen to the woman in the apartment
Definitely especially that part when the spider lady licked blood from Watanuki's neck ...
*looks at the picture* (it feels gross...) :eek: :p

I'm quite glad because it seems Spider lady earned a good impression on Watanuki on this chapter, i hope she doesn't much bother them later...

[Tsukisama]

I'm not sure that I see the connections between all of the images. The only ones that sort of seem a bit similar are the first two. How do the other images xxxHolic, and to what sort of connection are trying to draw attention, i.e., is there some sort of theory about how this relates to the manga or the characters?

[xxxfeather]

I'm not sure that I see the connections between all of the images. The only ones that sort of seem a bit similar are the first two. How do the other images xxxHolic, and to what sort of connection are trying to draw attention, i.e., is there some sort of theory about how this relates to the manga or the characters?

I agree with Tsukisama, the first two pictures look similar, and the last one looks like yokai. I can't find the connection with the rest. I'll keep thinking about it. :?bunny

[shaheer]

clamps s world is such confusing , they always connect one anime to other. i liked kobato , but for some reason or other stopped Dl ing the eps.
how is watanukl being shown in kobato?? is he the shop master already or the part time worker?
and on what context is he shown?

[xxxfeather]

Hi everone, long time no speak on the TRC forum!

I was watching the end of Kobato episode 19 that has just been released and it looked like Fai and Mokona was in the small clip fro episode 20. I know this episode was written by Nanase Okawa from Clamp, but can anyone confirm that what i saw was true? Is it Fai?!

Yup! I just watched ep 20!!! It's them, though the designs are different: Kurogane's eyes; Fai wears his hair in a ponytail, just like Fujimoto; and Mokona's ears and wings (I like the wings design).

Fai seems to know what Kobato is (aaaaahhh... I want to know too!!!). It was more or less like this:

Fai looked at her hat.

Then, before they left...

Fai: Hey, Kobato-chan is an...

Ioryogi: Huh?

Fai: Right? But she doesn't seem very confident. People from other worlds can't do anything but watch over her. Even us. Take good care of her.

Ioryogi: You don't even have to tell me.

Near the end, after the rabbit appears...

Ioryogi: Kobato, you're really running out of time.


Note: Just copied the subs of the episode. I almost don't know Japanese.

[watanuki01/04]

They were wearing the clothes that Sakura gives them at the end of the Manga! I love that!

And Watanuki was wearing the clothes from Holic Rou in episode 18.

I assume that Kobato is set after TRC but during Rou then?

[fuzaco]

Well, since the TRC guys are travelling through time and worlds, we cannot be sure when Kobato is actually set.

[shaheer]

what i wonder is what will she do with that pearl
and what abt the Zashiki-warashi, she had a crush on watanuki .

still a lot of things are left untold

[idlemind009]

What i guess im am trying to say is that you are God, and that you are not evil...

see watanuki stands where "YIN", or "EVIL", would stand, but we most certainly know that our Watanuki-kun is the farthest thing from evil in the universe ! Doumeki standing opposite from him...he too is also good !

Why is it that spirits dont haunt Doumeki...Why is it that Doumeki cannot see spirits ? These are very important questions.

As the series progressed watanuki found that the most troublesome...dangerous spirits he encountered weren't yokai,..but instead PEOPLE...people are the strangest creatures in the world...

Doumeki...thanks to his upbringing and strict discipline...is able to negate spirits because he handles his responsibility. When a man...or woman...neglects their responsibility the universe falls out of harmony and tries to re assert itself. This usually manifest itself in the way of BAD LUCK ...or people lashing out at you and or haunting you...which was watanuki's case. Doumeki pushes evil spirits away because a spirit cannot stand before...or even touch a another spirit that is righteous.
[hr]
Your demons are always of your own making...this is perhaps the most important thing yuuko-san was trying to teach watanuki...and doumeki so adequestly called him a moron because he just didn't get it.

[ZaCloud]

Well, that's a very interesting way of looking at the story's dynamics.

The pictures are a bit convoluted though; they don't all go together with what you were saying. So I think that's why nobody really got your point before.

Yin and Yang, however, are not good and evil. They are just the balance of the universe. While one does equal light and the other shadow, shade can be comforting on a sunny day, and night can be calming. Yin needs yang. Light needs shadow. It's just a mutual cycle in nature.

I think Yuuko brought Watanuki and Doumeki together because they are each-other's yin and yang. They bring balance to each other. Watanuki sees, Doumeki acts. Watanuki opens himself up to help others, Doumeki protects him in his vulnerable state. Because they are opposites, they often argue. But because they balance each other, they stay together.

So in that respect, they do work with the yin-yang principle at least.

[<.Haruka.>]

Chapter 202 (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/202/01/) is out already :)
It seems Doumeki's grandfather knew the lyrics of the song that the shamisen taught Watanuki...
I wonder when Wata will take off his glasses again (hopfully he wont be afraid of taking it off anymore)...

[Flipper]

Is it just me or is the dress-like thing he saw at the end of the chapter identical to the one he saw when he was searching for the crimson orb with the thread back in chapter 196 or 197?

[kkck]

I don't normally post here -first post actually- but I think watanuki should dump himawari and make babies with the spider lady -best woman ever to appear in any and all manga-.

[jessyt1992]

Chapter 202 (http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/202/01/) is out already :)
It seems Doumeki's grandfather knew the lyrics of the song that the shamisen taught Watanuki...
I wonder when Wata will take off his glasses again (hopfully he wont be afraid of taking it off anymore)...

yah i thought so too, it seemed like he knew the lyrics very well.

[xxxfeather]

Is it just me or is the dress-like thing he saw at the end of the chapter identical to the one he saw when he was searching for the crimson orb with the thread back in chapter 196 or 197?

I think it's the same thing. It looks like part of a dress or a sleeve.

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/196/11/

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/202/16/

Whatever it is, it shocked Watanuki the first time he saw it.

[ravensley]

I think it's the same thing. It looks like part of a dress or a sleeve.

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/196/11/

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/202/16/

Whatever it is, it shocked Watanuki the first time he saw it.

I think its a mermaid's tail though cause that's when he first saw it and the second time was after learning from the spider lady that the girl had eaten the flesh of a mermaid... maybe they're connected?

[Vande]

According to CLAMP NOW LJ, there are no sched breaks for xxxHolic, so new chapter should be out 7th March 2010.
[hr]
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From the CLAMP Now LJ

Xxx Holic transfert from Young Magazine to Bessatsu Shônen Magazine
http://www.news-paradise.com/index.php?news=150

In Chapter # 204 of Xxx Holic (clamp) present in Young Magazine # 16 (On Sale Saturday) we learn that this chapter will be the last published in Young Magazine. With effect from the next chapter, the series will be published in Shounen Magazine Bessatsu.

So the series moves from a Seinen magazine to a Shonen Magazine, and the rate goes from weekly to monthly.

The resumption of the series (With Chapter # 205) will be held in Bessatsu Shonen Magazine # 07 (On sale June 9). At that time the series will be entitled to the magazine cover and color pages.

[xxxfeather]

From the CLAMP Now LJ

Xxx Holic transfert from Young Magazine to Bessatsu Shônen Magazine
http://www.news-paradise.com/index.php?news=150

In Chapter # 204 of Xxx Holic (clamp) present in Young Magazine # 16 (On Sale Saturday) we learn that this chapter will be the last published in Young Magazine. With effect from the next chapter, the series will be published in Shounen Magazine Bessatsu.

So the series moves from a Seinen magazine to a Shonen Magazine, and the rate goes from weekly to monthly.

The resumption of the series (With Chapter # 205) will be held in Bessatsu Shonen Magazine # 07 (On sale June 9). At that time the series will be entitled to the magazine cover and color pages.

Fortunately, it´s still in Kodansha. Unfortunately, it´s going to be monthly. But, what is the reason of the change? (hope that what happened to Kobato isn´t the same case as here).

Urgh... this keyboard isn´t helping (I´m at a café, not at home). I hope my laptop comes back tomorrow.

[ZaCloud]

Wow, thanks for letting us know. :blink That is puzzling news!

It's never really struck me as a shounen style series... so I wonder why they're moving it to a shounen magazine. :s I hope it doesn't get kicked out for not having enough action.

And does that say it's not coming out till JUNE?!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :bored

[DrunkDragon]

I'm pretty sure they changed it because of all the apperent breaks it had, which was more of a monthly or bi-weekly releases. I just hope the chapters at least get longer in size.

[xxxfeather]

It's on One Manga now!!!

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/203/

Oh, that fox cub is soooo cute!!! :mokona :clap2

[ZaCloud]

Yes, that fox boy is soooo adorable! (And I guess we didn't have to wait till June after all, phew! :sweat )

.....................In before Dou x Wata fangirls say "Will you wear my ring?" :eyeroll lol

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

This is essentially because I'm too lazy to trawl through the entirety of holic looking (and I have too much homework), but does anyone remember Doumeki ever smiling? It's bugging me...

I feel like he has, but then I think that's just because Haruka always smiles and they're practically identical.

[Vande]

204 is due out before the magazine change over. 203 is last weeks chapter.

Anyhow, seeing the little fox back was awesome, seems he's grown up a bit as well :)

Plus...DOUMEKI RING! *yaoi fangirl mode* XD

[xxxfeather]

Yes, that fox boy is soooo adorable! (And I guess we didn't have to wait till June after all, phew! :sweat )

.....................In before Dou x Wata fangirls say "Will you wear my ring?" :eyeroll lol

But we'll have to wait 2 1/2 months for chapter 205.

That ring thing would be so funny.

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

Here's (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V2PYPFZJ) the raw of 204. A holic chapter with 20 pages! *is mind boggled*

[Vande]

Next chapter:
Chapter 205 - Bessatsu Shonen Magazine # 07 - 9th June

[Vande]

It's on One Manga now!!!

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/204/

Now we have the long wait with the transition to the new magazine :/

[<.Haruka.>]

A holic chapter with 20 pages! *is mind boggled*
the length of the pages is a sign of being shonen (just kidding :p)
..but its nice because it feels somehow at the end of the chapter (like the recent one) is not cliffhanger :)
although the release would be a bit longer, i guess

[<.Haruka.>]

Hopefully the next chapter would be worth the wait but the recent chapter really is nice, explaining what the ring (thimble) for that Watanuki gave as birthday present to Doumeki-san which will help him enhance his power more..
The box caught my attention especially those symbols on it...

[Nataku27]

Yes, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but was it not Clow's seal in the box ?

[watanuki01/04]

It was Clow's seal and Yuuko's seal. I would bet that those glasses are going to play a big role in the future!!!!

Such a long wait till the next chapter! Cant Wait!

[ndulzky]

Are those the glasses Clow used to wear???

[ZaCloud]

Are those the glasses Clow used to wear???

That's exactly what I thought when I saw them and their round lenses. I'm intrigued. It's already been pointed out openly how Watanuki resembles Clow, and the two share strong devotion to Yuuko-san... so I'm sure there's a connection. After all, there are no coincidences, only hitsuzen. ;)

[xxxfeather]

That's exactly what I thought when I saw them and their round lenses. I'm intrigued. It's already been pointed out openly how Watanuki resembles Clow, and the two share strong devotion to Yuuko-san... so I'm sure there's a connection. After all, there are no coincidences, only hitsuzen. ;)

I thought the same. Since he said the glasses "protected him", and Yuuko's seal could only be seen when he wore them...

:worrybunny I think it was already discussed in another thread, but...

Does anyone else think that Watanuki will become Clow or a reincarnation of him? I think the same happened to Kobato in ep 24 (I watched the Japanese raw because there weren't subtitles at the time, and that's what I understood. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.)

[ndulzky]

I thought the same. Since he said the glasses "protected him", and Yuuko's seal could only be seen when he wore them...

:worrybunny I think it was already discussed in another thread, but...

Does anyone else think that Watanuki will become Clow or a reincarnation of him? I think the same happened to Kobato in ep 24 (I watched the Japanese raw because there weren't subtitles at the time, and that's what I understood. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.)

When the topic was first brought up, I didn't think he could ever become Clow.. but as the story goes, especially with the time paradox in TRC, I'm beginning to think otherwise... He does look like Clow, now he has a pair of glasses that is very similar to Clow's... and from CCS, we know that Syaoran is Clow's descendant... again with the time loop or paradox, who knows who's the ancestor and who's the descendant? Or who's "the other" who... At this point I think anything can happen... :D

[Mizukodomo14]

So basically, I hope CLAMP won't be typical CLAMP, and do something really ridiculous, like having Doumeki leave Watanuki, because for some reason (not just my inner fan girl) I find that the answer is obvious. but maybe I'm reading into their relationship all wrong? I feel as though the next few chapters will strengthen their relationship, as well as give Doumeki the courage to stay. with. Watanuki. or break away (personally, if he leaves Wata., I will flip some srs sh*t, not gonna lie)

[xxxfeather]

Some great news!!! :mokona :confetti

From Chibiyuuto:
05/19 Shonen Magazine #25 - xxxHolic One-shot
05/20 Shonen Magazine SP #06 - Horitsuba Story

And the cover of vol. 17

http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/292363.html

[Snowolf]

W, that was a great chapter! I was intrigued by the ring and was happy about the glasses but a couple things made me confused:

1.) When Watanuki tells Doumeki "If you are in danger, you will shoot..with no hesitation" and Doumeki asks "Even if its you?" and Watanuki replies, "Most especially if it's me" what is he referring to? As Watanuki as the target or the one who needs to be safe from danger?

2.) A long tine back, I think in chapter 131, the group celebrates Watanuki's birthday and Yuuko tells him that the only transaction that doesnt need a price is the transaction of feelings, yet Watanuki gives Doumeki a ring with no price. Eh?

3.) Glasses - I have no doubt that those are Clow's,but I hope Watanuki doesn't become Clow like what they did in TRC. I can see a reincarnation,but I'd prefer Watanuki being Watanuki and no one else. After all, isn't that one of the story's main themes: to be yourself?

Just some thoughts, I wish xxxHolic would remain a biweekly/weekly manga. For me, the story works best that way. I cant imagine it being monthly, and i have no idea why it transferred (especially info a shounen magazine of all things) but I hope we get long chapters though! :)

[kurofaikitty]

hmmm . . . well, had to come back and discuss here because the chapter was just too good to pass up all the symbolism on. Anywho . . .

1.) Those are most DEFFINETLY Clow’s glasses. No doubt about it. Not sure what part that has to play in the future except that one again, glass imagery? Lol

2.) Anyone who denies the DouWata after this chapter might be shot now. Did anyone else notice that the finger Doumeki first tried to put the ring (calling it that still because he wears it as one) was in fact his MARRIAGE RING FINGER? Yes. CLAMP wouldn’t do that for no reason.

3.) Also, someone said before that the decision will be whether or not he stays with Watanuki. Wrong. He’s already staying. Anyone notice how Wata said he had his own room in the shop? The problem is, however, will he always be there. And the answer is no. With Watanuki’s new immortality and all, Doumeki will eventually die. And I get the horrible feeling it might be sooner rather than later. I believe the egg is for REbirth. If nothing can be born from it, then what about something being reborn? A Wish-like ending, per say. Also, as I recall ( I don’t actually read the thing or watch it, but I kno enough) in one of the newest Kobato chapters, isn’t it revealed that the angel-whatnot Iroyorgi loved carried a similar egg? And in the anime, Kobato is the rebirth of a human who died, presumably born from that egg. Can we not assume the same from Doumeki’s yet to be used egg?

[Mizukodomo14]

Now that you mention it, I don't believe he has EVER smiled. I think that's probably to show how just, ridiculously different he and Watanuki are, but that's a little un natural... I have to agree, I don't think we've ever seen him actually smile

[ZaCloud]

Heh, yeah, it's pretty much the way to tell him and Haruka-san apart. Doumeki never smiles, Haruka ALWAYS smiles. :sweat

At least Doumeki has mischief and humor though. Just that he's the type with deadpan delivery. ;)

[idlemind009]

what ive noticed is that watanuki may be the only person who can make him smile on the inside. Doumeki has a very important choice to make. Subconsciously I believe he has already decided, but right now he is trying to understand his choice.

[harmaa]

In the original sketches for Doumeki's design, he's smiling a lot, smirking, and making other faces. It's pretty interesting. You can see them in the guide that was published in the US, not sure of the Japanese equivalent.

[ZaCloud]

Heh, that's quite understandable; he's a dynamic character with a wide range of emotions. So they drew his "spirit" first. But then later decided that it'd probably be best for Watanuki to be the one to externalize his feelings more, as the main character who would have a lot of internal/spiritual conflicts.

So they made Doumeki's outward reactions more subtle, but he still gives away "clues" as to his personality actually being vibrant and snarky. The subtlety actually adds to him a lot; his emotions are "hidden", but his actions show his sincerity

Example: The fact that he keeps seeming to pick on Watanuki and seems all irritated himself, yet keeps protecting and helping him despite that, only further emphasizes how unconditional his loyalty is, like a samurai serving his lord.

And it acts as a good contrast to Watanuki's open honesty. Yin and yang, balancing each other out. When Yuuko-san teamed them up, she knew they would balance each other perfectly to get through future troubles.

[Cedde]

The glasses are the ones Clow used to wear.

Watanuki's true name is still hidden from us, maybe he is Clow...
Yet, making him be Clow wont be so nice, as CLAMP already used this plot on the other manga.
Better if he becomes something more :)
(But i do have the feeling he will become Clow)

The Egg could be rebirth, not a bad idea, and it is fitting.

I got the feeling the egg was there to prevent watanuki from doing something, like wishing for something he should not etc.

I want more xxxholic chapter's now!!!

[ZaCloud]

1.) When Watanuki tells Doumeki "If you are in danger, you will shoot..with no hesitation" and Doumeki asks "Even if its you?" and Watanuki replies, "Most especially if it's me" what is he referring to? As Watanuki as the target or the one who needs to be safe from danger?

I have no idea, and that really does intrigue/worry me. But, a lot of the translation seemed super confusing in this chapter, not just that part. So when I have time I'm gonna look for alternates so hopefully we can get a better idea of what was truly said at several points.


2.) A long tine back, I think in chapter 131, the group celebrates Watanuki's birthday and Yuuko tells him that the only transaction that doesnt need a price is the transaction of feelings, yet Watanuki gives Doumeki a ring with no price. Eh?

Well it's obvious: He wanted to give his friend a birthday present too. A gift based on feelings, thus no price was needed.


3.) Glasses - I have no doubt that those are Clow's,but I hope Watanuki doesn't become Clow like what they did in TRC. I can see a reincarnation,but I'd prefer Watanuki being Watanuki and no one else. After all, isn't that one of the story's main themes: to be yourself?

Yeah, I'm both worried and accepting of the possibility that Clow is involved in some way or another. We just don't know the extent of that involvement yet. I guess I have a kinda zen approach to this series and accept things as they come, but I can definitely understand the concern and still have some lingering myself.

I guess only time will tell...

[xxxfeather]

Watanuki's true name is still hidden from us, maybe he is Clow...
Yet, making him be Clow wont be so nice, as CLAMP already used this plot on the other manga.
Better if he becomes something more :)
(But i do have the feeling he will become Clow)


If he becomes Clow... well, since he's already appeared in 3 different stories it'd be sooo repetitive... but at least we'll know his story.

What bothers me, and I think it's necessary to have a major idea of what's happening now, is to know Watanuki's timeline. I mean, not only the part that appears in Tsubasa, but his full timeline. We don't know if he really had "parents", maybe his memories of them were fake memories created by Yuuko/FWR. What if he appeared out of nowhere one day, just like Kobato (there's a place where I want to go...)?

Because :

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/192/21/

It seems that he existed in some way before everything happened...

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/17/

and when he appeared in the story he looked like a seven-year-old. :?bunny

[ZaCloud]

Well, if you consider what happened in Tsubasa and the timeloop... Ugh, if my memory weren't so bad I'd analyze this better...

But if I remember right... (Spoilers for the end of Tsubasa Chronicle)

1, FWR created the impossible cycle of the Tsubasas (ex-C!Shaoran and C!-Sakura) being the parents of Shaoran, who then found Sakura in the other world, and then were subsequently cloned.

2, This means the Tsubasas were the existing Shaoran's parents, and also Watanuki's parents.

3, Watanuki had been formed to fill the gap left by Shaoran's departure and the time ripple. He was around 7 years old because that's when Shaoran left. He was there to fill the void.

4, To close the time loop, when FWR was defeated, elements of both sides of the loop were merged. The Tsubasas' physical existences were lost. This now made both Shaoran and Watanuki into anomalies; their parents had been erased. They still existed, but not in a way that lines up with reality anymore, now that time has become linear again.

So that's why Shaoran travels and Watanuki suspended himself in a different timeflow... because neither of them have an explainable anchor to reality anymore. They carry the evidence of a reality that has been lost. They carry parts of the world that few else know ever existed.

The convolution begins with the fact that rebirth/reincarnation can take many forms. A soul can sometimes be reborn in a new body and not remember its past, so while it's the same person by nature, by nurture they can become completely different. At least that's one way that Watanuki could potentially contain Clow's "soul", but still be different from any Clow iteration that has existed. Though who's to say how CLAMP would do that.

But, the fact that Watanuki is such an anomaly, and Clow is one as well, makes a lineup likely. But not necessarily the case. Watanuki's got so many unknowns that the possibilities are endless as to how he came to be, and what will become of him.

Makes my head spin. :sweat Just when I thought the twists were over when Tsubasa closed, xxxHolic now carries the suspense. I'll just keep guessing and waiting for the next clues.

[Snowolf]

@ZaCloud: Well, what I mean is that a transaction of feeling is one without any materialistic gain. Yuuko-san could only wish Watanuki the best of his life, but couldn't give him technically anything- a chain, a ring, anything materialistic- because it went against the laws. That's why I'm confused when Watanuki did it- we know that he feels for Doumeki and that's great, but to give something that is substantial seems to be going against the rules, unless I read the translation wrong. (xxxHolic is so damn hard to figure out! GAH!)

Yeah, IKR? I'm so confused about that too...luckily, I did some research, and cnet13 has a really good translation. It seems that Watanuki is the recipient/target unfortunately? I still don't know.

The whole timeline thing with TRC- so the clones/parents are gone then? I thought they lived on....and didn't the fortune teller say that Watanuki would see them again one day? I understand that both Watanuki and Syaoran/Tsubasa had to pay the price of defying time by staying/continously moving (respectively) forever, but there are still two questions:

1.) This kind of works out, because if Watanuki died, wouldn't time rip itself apart and the dimensions collapse? So Watanuki techincally can't age, but that means he can't die. Hence, Clow I guess? I mean, Clow splits his soul into two guardians of the cards (CCS) so he technically doesn't die...but does CCS happen after or before TRC/xxxHolic?

2.) Watanuki's original price, the fact of him going to the shop in the first place, was for his power of seeing supernatural beings to stop. Since this transaction was 'stopped', what is the price he has to pay for working at the shop anyway? We understand that Watanuki's acceptance of himself and the inevitable along with taking control of the shop has allowed his power to grow considerably, but what was his price if his original price never was fully transacted?

So confusing, but CLAMP will probably answer these questions. They're good at closing holes in the story...but until June, we'll have to wait.

[ndulzky]

In CCS, Clow splits himself into two: Sakura's father (Fujitaka) and Eriol, not into the two guardian of the cards.

While Fujitaka does not remember anything about Clow, Eriol did keep all the memories as Clow. However, when Yue (one of the two guardians of the cards) were having a hard time accepting that Clow is actually still alive as Eriol but he (Yue) had to become Sakura's guardian instead, Eriol said that he is not Clow. His past life was Clow, but he is now Eriol, not Clow. Maybe this was the way he sort of "ended" the life of Clow? By splitting in two, since he couldn't technically die in a normal way??

About giving Doumeki the ring... I know that xxxHolic is all about equal price... but it's Doumeki's birthday... so, wouldn't he entitled to get something (bday present) without having to give something back of equal price? You know... usually when we have a birthday, we get bday gifts, right?? Hahaha...

One more thing... I'm also not sure where CCS would happen (before or after TRC)... but in a way, I kind of like to think that CCS is in a different world altogether... CCS Sakura gave her star staff to the clone Sakura (when she has already become a mother) through a dream because CCS!Sakura knew that the clone!Sakura would need something as valuable as this staff to be given to Yuuko as a price for her requests.

Oh, and I just remembered one more thing.... this is again TRC and Holic crossovers... when time was rewounded back because Syaoran wanted to, we know that the actual Sakura's mother (Nadeshiko) died and Fujitaka, who was actually Sakura's father, became clone!Syaoran's father, and then Clow became Sakura's father. When we learned about this, I thought there was a theory that the Clow in CCS actually left that dimension to be Sakura's father in Clow country instead? And then Clow died in Clow Country, right??

Arghh... now I'm confusing myself...lol...

[xxxfeather]

Well, if you consider what happened in Tsubasa and the timeloop... Ugh, if my memory weren't so bad I'd analyze this better...

But if I remember right... (Spoilers for the end of Tsubasa Chronicle)

[SPOILER]1, FWR created the impossible cycle of the Tsubasas (ex-C!Shaoran and C!-Sakura) being the parents of Shaoran, who then found Sakura in the other world, and then were subsequently cloned.

2, This means the Tsubasas were the existing Shaoran's parents, and also Watanuki's parents.

3, Watanuki had been formed to fill the gap left by Shaoran's departure and the time ripple. He was around 7 years old because that's when Shaoran left. He was there to fill the void.

4, To close the time loop, when FWR was defeated, elements of both sides of the loop were merged. The Tsubasas' physical existences were lost. This now made both Shaoran and Watanuki into anomalies; their parents had been erased. They still existed, but not in a way that lines up with reality anymore, now that time has become linear again.

Yup, I understood that, but I got the theory idea from here:

Situation A:

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/19/

Situation B:

http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/225/12/

If we assume that A and B happened in the same time (timeline x), that both situations are part of the same "loop", and that the people involved in them (clones + real! Syaoran) were "frozen" in time; then that means that those people don't "exist" (or at least not in their current state/age) in the current timeline (timeline y). And Watanuki's life takes part in timeline y, so there was "nobody" to care of him (current theory).

I hope you understand (I don't know how to explain it better T-T), plus, the timelines are kinda crazy.

Final note: and... who knows if FWR was lying in scene A ...?

[frostmourne4]

My theory for the what world is what is that Holic and CCS take place in one world while Sakura and Syaoran were reincarnated into another. I also believe that Yuuko essentially confirms in one of the early chapters that Holic takes place after CCS when Watanuki asks about the replica of CCS!Sakura's first staff.

As for Clow's reincarnations and which one is which, Clow Reed faked his death in the CCS/Holic world and traveled to Clow Kingdom where he became King Clow and eventually died (in the alternate timeline). In the original timeline, he actually died in the CCS/Holic world. After either of his deaths (depends on the timeline), he was reincarnated as Fujitaka and Eriol.

The timelines are very confusing and I have a thread over here (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56786) where I worked them out if you would like to see them. The thread is kind of empty though:sweat

[skye_4444]

I don't think Doumeki has ever smiled, but I think the reason you hardly ever notice is because there are a lot of instances where he's smiling on the inside...like when he's ordering Watanuki to make him more food.:p

[harmaa]

I wonder how long it will take for this to get online.

[xxxfeather]

The raw is out!!! (no subs)

http://www.jokeroo.com/user-content/videos/animation-film/2010/4/37884-ana-hori-rou.html

[Asahina]

Finished catching up...
Still miss Yuuko in the series. And Watanuki sure has one hell of a role. Now I wonder if I have to read Tsubasa to get what's really going on...What a pain xD

I think, for CLAMP, it was difficult keeping track of both mangas and also considering the facts that each manga had to reveal. xxxHolic had the least background information, that's for sure.

Mhm, xxxHolic isn't quite the same without Yuuko there.
/sniffles a sob.

[Snowolf]

wow...that was different.

****SPOILERS****

Okay, so basically what i understood was that the anime takes place 10 YEARS after Watanuki becomes teh shop owner. We basically understand his loneliness, the 'gist' of Yuuko's death (we just know that she...dies...but for no reason, and that Watanuki can't leave the shop....for no reason). We see Doumeki and everyone BUT Himawari chan, and yadiyadiya. Then we get a tape of a girl who demands to speak (i think?) to Watanuki, and she offers him a job, and the price will be that someone will speak using her voice/mouth. Turns out that the job is reuniting the pipe fox with his lover, and they get happy,( and this is all done through a video cam) and then Watanuki goes to the end of the cam, and YUUKO' SAN'S VOICE COMES THROUGH and says 'I'm home' and Watanuki, looking sadly, replies 'Welcome back'. (Doumeki at this time is speaking to Himawari through the phone, and it's inferred that she's married of sorts and she's going to visit Watanuki on his birthday).

I WAS VERY CONFUSED. I hope this isn't going to be the ending of xxxHolic, because not only was the girl NOT a reincarnation in any way, like most people think, she just left Yuuko's predicament to be completely....unseen? What the hell is that supposed to mean, 'I'm back'? She's dead! Is she at rest? Is she coming back? We don't know. It was beautiful and depressing- very dark compared to all the other episodes we've seen, but jeez, there were too many plot holes there. The kudakitsune thing was a mess and we were left with only getting a gist of what the hell happens after TRC but WITH NO EXPLANATION. Don't get me wrong, it was fantastic in sorts of character development, but in terms of plot, it went haywire. And that ending.....*sighs*