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Gold Knight
September 24, 2006, 08:37 PM
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Weird place... there's even text in the sky...! O:

Hello there again. Here you go, Bleach comments first again this weekend. ;) Incidentally, since I've been talking about M7 needing more help recently, I'm pleased to say that they do seem to be back on track again with producing HQ scanlations. They're still looking for more people, though, so be sure to contact them at Max7staff@gmail.com if you're interested in helping. Binktopia's is still nice as well, but I did prefer M7's scanlation this week.

And finally, we've acquired another fantastic Bleach-lovin' translator in Winterlion so be sure to say hi to her here! (http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8661.0) :fan

Anyway, Bleach fans have a lot to be pleased about these days, so keep it up guys! :thumbs


* * * Gold Knight's Ten Comments on Bleach Chapter 244: Born from the Fear. * * *


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That's what he gets for calling my momma ugly.

1. A Giant, Indeed. Well, we start off with a typical shonen scene: good guy beats up bad guy and then coolly walks away while his opponent falls ungracefully in the other direction, vanquished.

I'm somewhat surprised that it ended right there and then, though, as I had half-expected Chad to continue pummelling on poor Demoura in order to demonstrate the improvements of his "new arm" further. Oh well, guess Tite's saving it up for another fight. Not much else to say here. Note that his "arm" dissipated immediately as it's no longer needed. Chad's a cool customer, that's for sure.

I suppose I'll throw in some more thoughts about Chad's arm while I still can. Some have said that Chad's arm may be that of a Hollow's, much like Ichigo has a Hollow-like mask. Judging by the new tattoo-like design on his "Giant's Arm," yeah, I'd say it looks far more likely now.

So I'm wondering if Chad, as well as Ichigo, had attracted some sort of lingering Hollow energy from Hueco Mundo by not only having enormous spiritual presence but also because of their respective early sufferings in their childhood. Ichigo's sadness due to his mother's death, and Chad's loneliness due to his appearance. (I also wonder if the Quincys made all this possible by inadvertently causing the Spirit World to seep into the material world...)

That'd be ironic since they're using the "powers" of the Hollows against Hueco Mundo now...! But now mixed with more positive energies, perhaps...


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And by the way, my daddy's better than yours, too!

2. Big Talk... Time to Back It Up! Did anybody get the feeling that Ishida is being a little too childish here? Yes, he's got tremendous pride in being a Quincy and he wants to bring glory back to his people. I realize that. All the same, Ishida was being a little too cheeky here. Sometimes at times, I think Ichigo's actually more reserved than Ishida!

Well, in a way Ishida is right here. Aizen should fear him more than a Shinigami - but not necessarily because they're more powerful. The Quincy ARE more dangerous to the "balance of the worlds," as their arrows tend to lead to the outright destruction of ghosts and Hollows, instead of bringing their souls over to the Soul Society. (Or to 'Hell,' which I've still wanted to learn a bit more about...) Putting everything out of balance and causing some nasty problems...

Anyway, we'll see whether Ishida will back up his words or not. Something tells me Ishida won't be the one facing Aizen at the end, though, and like usual, it'll be Ichigo again. So, in this case, I think his bark is worse than his bite. Ah, well.


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So who'll foot the bill for the property damage this time?

3. Cavein' In. Just a quick comment... yeah, Ichigo, but even if it hadn't been *purposefully* designed by the Arrancar to crumble as a last resort, at least there was a way out from the cave-in there in that chamber. Much better than being caught in a narrow passageway where you had initally wanted to fight them. Quit yappin' and get outta there.

(It's moments like this which make me understand why I never did really consider including Ichigo anywhere in my top 50 favorite characters. I don't think I would have gotten along with him at all, if I knew him in real life. XD )


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...except lima beans, right?

4. Follow the Fearless! I suppose Iceringer's words make perfect sense regarding their devotion to Aizen. Of course, who wouldn't want to follow somebody who not only fears nothing but also seems to be an invulnerable leader? Pretty convenient!

Of course, that will only last as long as the Arrancar feel that Aizen truly has their best interests in mind... (ie. They don't feel like he is manipulating them towards their own disaster.)

But anyway, yeah, I can definitely understand how the Hollows/Arrancar, who were all incredibly afraid spirits to begin with, could find Aizen's presence so comforting. And their confidence in Aizen hasn't been too unfounded to this point either - Aizen really hasn't shown any fear at all, yet. And Aizen himself knows that he has to remain that way, because the Arrancar, like dogs, can and will smell fear and if they ever did, they would probably turn on him in an instant. Grimmjow, for instance...

But until then, as Iceringer and Demoura demonstrated here, these aren't any ordinary Hollows that Ichigo and company will have to battle, simply because they've been encouraged and empowered by the boldness of their leader.

No wonder the Espada will be so tough.


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Hey, did we remember to bring any water?

5. A Barren World. So it wasn't the gooey, gross world that Ichigo had imagined it as, but still a desolate hell all the same. No wonder most of these Hollows are so stark mad, trying to find any entertainment in the physical world while they can if they've gotta go back to *that* wasteland.

Plantlife made of quartz? Hmm, strange. If anybody has any thoughts concerning why Tite went with quartz I'd be happy to hear it. Seems to me a rather interesting feature of the land, though. Maybe there's something special about quartz in this world.


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Hmm... compensating for something?

6. Aizen's Playground. Ohh. A place that looks like a nuclear power plant, exactly what we need as proof that Aizen is one of the baddest villains around. He's probably got enough stuff in there to blow up America if he felt like it, except he's just too lazy at the moment, perhaps...

Alright, I'm joking. But anyway, quite a factory in the middle of nowhere. I got the impression at first that Las Noches might have been somewhat inspired by the Guggenheim Museum in Barcelona too, but I'm not too sure of that. Either way, certainly a forbidding structure. May not seem all that impressive, but it's perfect for a place like Hueco Mundo. Who knows, this is what the world might look like someday if we're not too careful.


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Maybe it IS a needle...

7. Screwy Perspectives! Not sure Tite really accomplished too much here in his art because I didn't initially get that same feeling of confusion that Chad and the others seemed to be going through while looking at Las Noches.

But, despite what Ishida and Chad said about how it was probably good that they saw it from the outside so that they wouldn't get discouraged while running around inside, I think they're in for a unpleasant surprise. The interior of Las Noches from what we've seen so far in the series looks like it's even bigger than how it looks from the outside in the above scene. The result may be that Chad and Ishida might find it even more tedious because they were so confident in the structure's proportions while going in.

I don't think Ichigo cares much, though. In this case, probably for the best.


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Is this where the tea party is...?

8. Meeting in the Darkness...! When the Espada all gathered together for the first time to the readers here, I definitely got that same feeling of Déjà vu from when we once saw all the Soul Society captains standing before Gin.

There's a very similar sense of wonder that goes with this scene. I'm left being very curious about each one of these "Ten Swords", what their personalities are like, and so forth. This time, though, unlike the Gotei 13, we know these guys are all out to make trouble. But knowing Tite Kubo, I'm sure he'll still try to incorporate some unique set of characteristics in each one of them regardless.

Even though we haven't seen their tattooes yet with the exception of Grimmjow, I now believe that Ulquiorra is indeed Primero Espada.

Look at the way they're seated, especially where Grimmjow and Yama (we know him as the 10th Sword, or Décimo Espada) are on the right side. That's 6 to 10, probably. And on Ulquiorra's side, he's number 1, and the last guy in that row is probably number 5. Anyway, going by that assumption, I'll be commenting on them each here.


Primero Espada: Well, this is of course Ulquiorra - definitely the Byakuya of the group. Acts almost exactly the same. In fact, I'm hoping he'll show something a little different soon...
Segundo Espada: This one is interesting, a little like Shunsui in that he seems almost bored with the whole affair and would have rather just slept somewhere else.
Tercero Espada: We couldn't see his face, but we know he's got an "umbrella hat" of some kind. He also appeared in that scene where we saw Luppi (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7771/m7bleachch2291213wq7.jpg) for the first time, too. Segundo was also in that one.
Cuarto Espada: This is the one referred as HAG by some fans: "Hot Arrancar Girl," apparently because she's so well-endowed. I wonder if she's all that beautiful, though. :amuse Also first appeared in that spread, too.
Quinto Espada: Seems a little mysterious. Reminds me a bit of "Mind Flayers." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illithid)
Sexta Espada: Of course, Grimmjow. Looks the most calm I've ever seen him being, actually. He must be very content, and well, no wonder. He just got his position back, after all.
Séptimo Espada: Hmm, big burly black dude, eh? Looks like a weightlifter who was sent into the jungle to learn how to hunt, and came out a silent and pissed savage.
Octavo Espada: Looks like he was a former hacker at some time. Definitely got a brain on him by the looks of him, and perhaps a charmer as well.
Noveno Espada: Heh, the dwarf. Looks tactiurn.
Décimo Espada: Of course, Yama. 'Nuff said.


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All hail the leader...!!!

9. Here Come the Three Backstabbers! Well, for the first time, we see Aizen, Gin, and Tousen all together post-Rukia Rescue storyarc. Not much to say here, except I liked that at least Tite designed all of their uniforms differently.

I'm not too keen on Gin's new wardrobe though - hey, he looked cooler in a white haori and the typical Shinigami captain uniform, but oh well. But Aizen and Tousen are lookin' stylish here for sure.


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Who wants some cream?

10. Time for Tea! Now I'm almost expecting Orihime to appear and bemusedly being offered tea by Aizen and the rest of these kooks, just like Alice in Wonderland.

Anyway, that was one serious moment of bad-assness. Aizen just won some more points for landing a higher spot on my list of best villains of all time. But at the same time I couldn't help but think comedic things. Such as the following scenario...

Ulquiorra: (Raises hand) I want some tea, please.
Gin: (Hands cup of tea to Ul) Here you go *gg*
Tousen: (To Grimmjow) No tea for you!
Grimmjow: :wtf

RATING: 4 out of 5 stars. Very nice chapter, but could have included more story. We got Ichigo and company going from point A to point B but nothing else, except finding out what Hueco Mundo and Las Noches looked like on the outside. The Espada were definitely the highlight of the chapter, but we didn't learn too much else about them. Still a very nice chapter though that promises more fun to come.

Predictions: We'll probably find out exactly why Aizen has called a meeting. I don't think it's about Ichigo and company thought, as they all acted like it was almost an afterthought.

Credits: Good job by M7 this week on their scanlation. It was a pleasure to use their images.

Hope you enjoyed, and looking forward to seeing what you think!


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Finally got to the end! Comment! <3

destinator
September 24, 2006, 08:46 PM
Nice comments and awesome made you crazy comment writer =)

Gold Knight
September 24, 2006, 08:55 PM
Thanks ^^

If anybody is having issues seeing the images, I think Imageshack is having problems at the moment :/ Just wait a bit and they'll load later on, I think.

kiddo7
September 24, 2006, 09:19 PM
These chapters arre too short, I am not likeing this very much. it is god stuff once you get the whole storry but the one week wait in between is getting old. I know I am complaining about things that cannot be changed but oh.... * is frustrated*

Yeah Ishida is acting too much like a kid, I guess kubo tite is trying to make up for making ichigo look too dense by making ishida look too immature. kinda figures. yea so this is the second time I was... um surprised? should I say. Hueco mundo is again nothing like I imagined it to be. I always thought that it would be more like the passage way between the real world and soul society or like the very first scene we see in the anime or like the scene where inoues brother gets eaten by hollows, (I think it was him) anyway I thought it would be dark, damp, slimy, and musty.

The quarz is a good question. maybe it has something to do with spirit particles? I mean there are certainpopular beleifs that attribute various "powers" to various "rocks" anyone know or want to look up what quarz's special atribute should be? would not surprise me too much if it is something like high spiritual energy, or evil, or something. I am just ranting here, I really don't know what I am talking about. but I am sure I heard something about stones and energy more than once.

perspectives, I agree with you there, can't see anything special really. these guys must have been smoking something. he he he, I am not really hating... you can understand a little joke at their expence every once in a while can't you?

love your commemts on the espada, by the way I spotted the ines you designated as segundo and quinto espada on the luppi image you provided as well.

Now I am convinced, and I also understand why aizen was able to turn that evil without anybody noticing; He is Brithish!!! I mean come on... doesn't he look the piece? you have to admit it.

Binky
September 24, 2006, 10:14 PM
I'd just like to comment on the Espada briefly, first off, with Ulqiourra being the Byakuya equivalent, how far do you think we can take the equivalency? (Assuming of course it follows the formula of big baddie at the end, which I believe this arc will, and then have another big twist) Because if it was to be set up that he was the "Hueco Mundo Boss", if we're presuming Aizen will be a more persistent villain, which I believe could well be the case then the interesting thing about that is that whilst Byakuya is merely middling insofar as Captains go, Ulqy, were he to turn out to be the Numuro Uno, would be the strongest Hollow in existence, which represents a pretty big step-up in calibre of foe for Ichigo. O' course, the step up is even bigger if he ends up fighting Aizen.

Aizen can't be British (By British I take it you mean English, since his speech is apparently comprehensible, which rules out Scotland and Wales in one fell swoop ;)) for whilst he displays the necessary lust for tea in this chapter, there were absolutely no crumpets in sight, unless you count the Fourth Espada.*

P.S. ImageShack is in a permanent state of not working, fact of life. :notrust

*Dunno if this joke is comprehensible, I believe it's mostly an English colloqioulism, basically crumpet = as well as some strange form of bun-related edible thingummie, a hot woman.

kiddo7
September 24, 2006, 11:11 PM
Good point there mate, but there is still the posibility since the chapter ended in a cliffhanger before they actually brought out the tea. So we really don't know anything about it, it could be just regular mint tea, or it could be earl grey with crumpets and a spot of milk, for those that are so inclined. (in that case there would be absolutely now inkling of a doubt whatsoever in anyone's mind that Aizen and his chaps are indeed englishmen.)
... God save the queen lol

goofy_man
September 25, 2006, 02:06 AM
About the seating of the Espada....we know for sure the right side is numbers 6-10......but here's something I've been wondering, GK...
What if your ordering for the left side is reversed (the correct order would make Ulquorria Espada #5 then)?
Just curious....

I will say the Arrancar on Yami's left has an interesting jacket design....in that it could be made from a mistake at the cleaners :XD

Oh, and GrimmJow would never have this face--> :wtf He'd rather be caught in some scandal involving a politician's wife before he makes that face....this is the correct expression GrimmJow would have in that situation--> :cussing

Gold Knight
September 25, 2006, 07:17 AM
These chapters arre too short, I am not likeing this very much. it is god stuff once you get the whole storry but the one week wait in between is getting old. I know I am complaining about things that cannot be changed but oh.... * is frustrated*

Such is the way of shonen series ;) At least you don't have to suffer through another week of no Shonen Jump just yet ( though I could use the break :p )


Yeah Ishida is acting too much like a kid, I guess kubo tite is trying to make up for making ichigo look too dense by making ishida look too immature. kinda figures. yea so this is the second time I was... um surprised? should I say. Hueco mundo is again nothing like I imagined it to be. I always thought that it would be more like the passage way between the real world and soul society or like the very first scene we see in the anime or like the scene where inoues brother gets eaten by hollows, (I think it was him) anyway I thought it would be dark, damp, slimy, and musty.

Ah yes, I remember that scene. Oh well... just goes to show that the anime can be deceiving at times :s


The quarz is a good question. maybe it has something to do with spirit particles? I mean there are certainpopular beleifs that attribute various "powers" to various "rocks" anyone know or want to look up what quarz's special atribute should be? would not surprise me too much if it is something like high spiritual energy, or evil, or something. I am just ranting here, I really don't know what I am talking about. but I am sure I heard something about stones and energy more than once.

I'm sure there's something about quartz too.

From wikipedia:


The name "quartz" comes from the German "Quarz", which is of Slavic origin (Czech miners called it křem). Other sources insist the name is from the Saxon word "Querkluftertz", meaning cross-vein ore.

Quartz is the most common material identified as the mystical substance maban in Australian Aboriginal mythology.

Maban -
Maban is a magical substance in Australian Aboriginal mythology. It is the material from which karadjis, or wise-men, derive their alleged magical powers. The word maban is sometimes also used to refer to the wise-man (cf. wizard) himself.

Maban is variously identified by different Australian Aboriginal tribes with quartz crystals, tektites, or mother of pearl. During the ceremony in which a karadji initiates an apprentice, maban is used and spiritually "inserted" into the body of the apprentice.

Maybe...?


perspectives, I agree with you there, can't see anything special really. these guys must have been smoking something. he he he, I am not really hating... you can understand a little joke at their expence every once in a while can't you?

By all means ;)


love your commemts on the espada, by the way I spotted the ines you designated as segundo and quinto espada on the luppi image you provided as well.

Yup, I just forgot to mention it, heh ^^


Now I am convinced, and I also understand why aizen was able to turn that evil without anybody noticing; He is Brithish!!! I mean come on... doesn't he look the piece? you have to admit it.


XD



I'd just like to comment on the Espada briefly, first off, with Ulqiourra being the Byakuya equivalent, how far do you think we can take the equivalency? (Assuming of course it follows the formula of big baddie at the end, which I believe this arc will, and then have another big twist) Because if it was to be set up that he was the "Hueco Mundo Boss", if we're presuming Aizen will be a more persistent villain, which I believe could well be the case then the interesting thing about that is that whilst Byakuya is merely middling insofar as Captains go, Ulqy, were he to turn out to be the Numuro Uno, would be the strongest Hollow in existence, which represents a pretty big step-up in calibre of foe for Ichigo. O' course, the step up is even bigger if he ends up fighting Aizen.

We haven't even seen Ulquiorra in action yet so I wouldn't be surprised if it was because he was simply too out of Ichigo's league at this point. That's partly the reason why I designated him as Primero at the moment.


Aizen can't be British (By British I take it you mean English, since his speech is apparently comprehensible, which rules out Scotland and Wales in one fell swoop ;)) for whilst he displays the necessary lust for tea in this chapter, there were absolutely no crumpets in sight, unless you count the Fourth Espada.*

Convincing argument, there ;)



P.S. ImageShack is in a permanent state of not working, fact of life. :notrust


Had traumatic experiences with Imageshack in the past? :D Well, at least it looks like all the images are working properly now ^^



Good point there mate, but there is still the posibility since the chapter ended in a cliffhanger before they actually brought out the tea. So we really don't know anything about it, it could be just regular mint tea, or it could be earl grey with crumpets and a spot of milk, for those that are so inclined. (in that case there would be absolutely now inkling of a doubt whatsoever in anyone's mind that Aizen and his chaps are indeed englishmen.)
... God save the queen lol


:rofl



About the seating of the Espada....we know for sure the right side is numbers 6-10......but here's something I've been wondering, GK...
What if your ordering for the left side is reversed (the correct order would make Ulquorria Espada #5 then)?
Just curious....

Then Ulquiorra is only one rank stronger than Grimmjow, which means the gap of power between each Arrancar must be incredible. The Primero must be something else (which would have to be that "Mind Flayer" one I pointed out.) I don't think that it would be the case, though, because Ulquiorra has obviously been "pimped" by Tite as being the most powerful Ichigo has encountered so far.


I will say the Arrancar on Yami's left has an interesting jacket design....in that it could be made from a mistake at the cleaners :XD

He also looks very, very ancient. Maybe had a completely different sense of fashion ;)


Oh, and GrimmJow would never have this face--> :wtf He'd rather be caught in some scandal involving a politician's wife before he makes that face....this is the correct expression GrimmJow would have in that situation--> :cussing


Heh, but not as funny. Well, maybe. ^^

Tousen and Grimmjow are definitely going to have another argument at some point.

The Fourth
September 25, 2006, 12:31 PM
I really hope Ulquiorra is not number one
the guy you called mysterious would be better :)
coz he is so ... mysterious :oh

Aizen is the holows "salvation"? thats a bit odd for me :notrust

but the best part was the end
"lets have a tea party"

Tousen seemed a bit distant from the other 2, maybe this means nothing , dunno :notrust

oh and Nice comments GK :)

Binky
September 25, 2006, 01:24 PM
I think the Tousen distance is just to show their relative ranking in simple terms, Ichimaru only a step or so behind, and to Aizen's right, fitting in with all the right-hand man and lieutenant type stereotypes, whilst Tousen lags well behind Ichimaru. It's in genre for Ichimaru to be a complete and utter badass, he's the Darth Vader figure, Tousen is simply an extra.

goofy_man
September 25, 2006, 01:31 PM
I also really like how the chapter ends.....so randomly funny and bad-ass-ly evil (is bad-ass-ly even a word?)

My remake of it
Aizen: Our enemies have broken through, they will probably be here in a while....want to kick our asses while they are occupied with saving their friend, probably blow some crap up and cause a boatload of collateral damage in the process....by the way, would anyone like some tea?
Ulquorria: Yes, Aizen-sama!
Yami: WTF? How can think about "tea" at a time like this??
GrimmJow: Oh, put a sock in it, Decimo.....*sigh* what the hell, I'll take some tea as well....
Tousen (in Soup Nazi voice): No tea for you!!
GrimmJow: Aizen-sama, why did we give Tousen-sama the complete 6-season DVD set of Seinfeld again?
Gin: He wanted it. Also, he needed something to cheer him up.....

Luckas
September 25, 2006, 01:57 PM
Great Comments for a great chapter, Gold Knight.

2) Yes, I think Tite went a little too far with Ishida now and Ichigo before, it isn't goog if readers think the characters act out of of character.

3) Maybe you are right, but i liked Ichigo remarks.

4) Firstly that speech seemed me strange, but after some thoughts I understood it make a lot of sense, but it need to be devolopped if Tito will not do that then he'll screw big time.

5) My fisrt thought was "petrified forest", I see that as way to symbolize and show the absence of life in Hueco Mundo. I think it could an interesting design with a little originality, one more time it's up to Tite if developping the idea or ignoring it.




7. Screwy Perspectives! Not sure Tite really accomplished too much here in his art because I didn't initially get that same feeling of confusion that Chad and the others seemed to be going through while looking at Las Noches.
I had the same impression.

8) Awesome scene for setting and construction.

9) Awesome entrance.

10) That's the humour I like. I knew it exists.

kiddo7
September 25, 2006, 02:26 PM
My remake of it
GrimmJow: Aizen-sama, why did we give Tousen-sama the complete 6-season DVD set of Seinfeld again?
Gin: He wanted it. Also, he needed something to cheer him up.....

lol Tousen, the blind guy, wanted a DVD. !?! sure made me laugh.

goofy_man
September 25, 2006, 06:38 PM
lol Tousen, the blind guy, wanted a DVD. !?! sure made me laugh.

Well, technically with that fancy eyewear of his, Tousen is able to see clearly.....Kubo Tite has yet to truly explain Tousen's eyewear, if he did, I missed it completely....actually, I find the image of Tousen imitating the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld even funnier.....lol

midnight789
September 25, 2006, 07:06 PM
5) My fisrt thought was "petrified forest", I see that as way to symbolize and show the absence of life in Hueco Mundo.
that was my thoughts exactly.

Also about Ice Ringer's speach, I think it marks a clear difference between the soul society arc and this one. In soul society not all of the captains we're united (good example: some people wanted to save rukia, some didn't, and Aizen's lil group did another thing). This speech shows that this isn't the case in Hueco Mundo; they all serve Aizen to the point that they will sacrifice themselves (like caving in an underground bunker) to destroy Aizen's enemies.

As a result, this chapter seriously raised Aizen's status in my book also. Not only can he manipulate everyone in soul society into his fiendishly delicious scheme, he also is a leader who can unite the arrancar, and the first thing he does when an enemy breaks in is prepare the tea.

As for Ishida's childish remarks, I agree with everyone on it being childish and out of character. I'm just going to chalk it up to Kubo Tite not having drawn him often since the soul society arc.

Gold Knight
September 26, 2006, 08:58 AM
5) My fisrt thought was "petrified forest", I see that as way to symbolize and show the absence of life in Hueco Mundo. I think it could an interesting design with a little originality, one more time it's up to Tite if developping the idea or ignoring it.

Good thought, Luckas04, that sounds like the best explanation I've heard so far ^^



Also about Ice Ringer's speach, I think it marks a clear difference between the soul society arc and this one. In soul society not all of the captains we're united (good example: some people wanted to save rukia, some didn't, and Aizen's lil group did another thing). This speech shows that this isn't the case in Hueco Mundo; they all serve Aizen to the point that they will sacrifice themselves (like caving in an underground bunker) to destroy Aizen's enemies.

As a result, this chapter seriously raised Aizen's status in my book also. Not only can he manipulate everyone in soul society into his fiendishly delicious scheme, he also is a leader who can unite the arrancar, and the first thing he does when an enemy breaks in is prepare the tea.


Agreed. The Arrancar do ironically seem much more unified than the Gotei 13. Well, of course the one thing that may unite the Gotei 13 will be a crusade against evil, though. (Even though I think Mayuri is a bit evil, himself. =/ )

Luckas
September 26, 2006, 02:03 PM
It's only me or the uniforms of Aizen, Gin and Tousen are very similar to that of Hollow Ichigo in the spiritual world of Ichigo?

midnight789
September 26, 2006, 03:00 PM
It's only me or the uniforms of Aizen, Gin and Tousen are very similar to that of Hollow Ichigo in the spiritual world of Ichigo?

Hollow Ichigo wore the same outfit that shinigami wore, except it was white instead of black. Same with his bankai outfit (it was white). Although that reminded me of something: I think Tousen got the best new outfit, I'm not too crazy about Gin's or Aizen's though. (ah well, could be worse I suppose...)

Gold Knight
September 27, 2006, 11:06 PM
I like Aizen's uniform okay. I agree about Gin, though.

Quartz-pebble
March 18, 2007, 10:18 PM
I'm not really sure why he chose to have the place made out of quartz. It's known as a pure and nuetral-like stone among new-agers. Pliney the elder believed it was ice that couldn't melt.

I think I'm leaning towards the barren, petrified theory. :P