Naruto Hangout Thread v.6

[Strider's♥Death]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/441926

xDDDDDDDDDDDDD I'm dying , believe it!

Sasuke FTW!!!!xDD

[Kusachu]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/441926

xDDDDDDDDDDDDD I'm dying , believe it!

Sasuke FTW!!!!xDD


Nothing's happening on that link.:darn Here and I was all excited to see you around again. HMPH!

You just come around to taunt me don't you. :notrust

[Kravmaga]

Nothing's happening on that link.:darn Here and I was all excited to see you around again. HMPH!

You just come around to taunt me don't you. :notrust

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[nat]

lol, saw the vid...:lmao
random but funny

Naruto can really move in water......silly animation

[Kusachu]

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lol Well, that was pretty funny. :D Believe it believe it!! The best part was Sasuke though. :kukuku

[-Ren Boy-]

typical fan girl behaviour :fangirl :fangirl2 over the one and only gaara

[Belisar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXMFQkKT3YY

the real power of ms :rofl

[nat]

Ren....you dissing Gaara?
:notrust
because bad things happen when people dis Gaara and Kakashi :nod


belisar, I don't blame the poor kid...I mean did you see that horror. MS at its worst :lmao

[Weapon_X]

LMAO! That video was the coolest! :rofl

Poor Sasuke getting tormented by teletubbies :rofl This jutsu is far better then Susano'o and any other techniques out there. :amuse

[-Ren Boy-]

Best genjutsu ever. And such a funny vid

[Essence]

This is great and bring tears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyEdez7Pio

[Weapon_X]

This is great and bring tears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyEdez7Pio

Nice video. It sure is sad.

I wonder how the guy made Itachi so real.

[nat]

This is great and bring tears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyEdez7Pio

....why all the sadness..I see this vid before :(
One of the best Itachi/Sasuke tributes


on other news, Michael Jackson just passed away because of cardiac arrest
:scry

[Essence]

Nice video. It sure is sad.

I wonder how the guy made Itachi so real.

There are many ways of doing so like flash cs3 for example

@nat

yeah i saw the micheal jackson, its really sad and unexpected

[Essence]

its very complicated but i have a little understanding of it. Flash cs3 is a program that allow you to animate it. For example you can sasuke eye open and close by using different frames of the same picture with one altered.

the work of experts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCYsObr-wY&feature=channel_page

[Weapon_X]

its very complicated but i have a little understanding of it. Flash cs3 is a program that allow you to animate it. For example you can sasuke eye open and close by using different frames of the same picture with one altered.

the work of experts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCYsObr-wY&feature=channel_page

Now that is way better then what the anime is going to show us when the Sasuke v Itachi fight will come up. :amuse Atleast this guy didn't include any fillers. LOL

[-Ren Boy-]

That animation is good, if you check the guys channel he has Jiraiya vs Pain it looks good :p

[Essence]

Now that is way better then what the anime is going to show us when the Sasuke v Itachi fight will come up. :amuse Atleast this guy didn't include any fillers. LOL

even more better than the anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOcfok1gdOg&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxAIjfasK3E&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeY2sMEXD5I&feature=channel_page

[Weapon_X]

even more better than the anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOcfok1gdOg&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxAIjfasK3E&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeY2sMEXD5I&feature=channel_page

NICE VIDS MAN! My fav one is the Chibaku tensei one, if only the guy completed it with the whole moon as well. DAMN!

Jiraiya one was awesome, the mini fight was cool. This is definitely better then Shitpuuden. :amuse Thanks for the vids, any more fan animation? Cause I can't find any.

[Essence]

NICE VIDS MAN! My fav one is the Chibaku tensei one, if only the guy completed it with the whole moon as well. DAMN!

Jiraiya one was awesome, the mini fight was cool. This is definitely better then Shitpuuden. :amuse Thanks for the vids, any more fan animation? Cause I can't find any.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVXjnQn52w&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cJpqIaW3gs&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-AU-A2apkU&feature=channel_page

even more greatness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kGgf-JOZLU&feature=channel_page

[Weapon_X]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVXjnQn52w&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cJpqIaW3gs&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-AU-A2apkU&feature=channel_page

even more greatness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kGgf-JOZLU&feature=channel_page

Is it just me or Kakashi v Pain one looked so real? That video had the best art and graphics I think but the return of Sage Mode had the best music and it was NARUTO returning. :amuse

They better make the return epic in Shitpuuden. And not make 10 episode fillers about the 3 big frogs. -_-;

[Kusachu]

Now that is way better then what the anime is going to show us when the Sasuke v Itachi fight will come up. :amuse Atleast this guy didn't include any fillers. LOL

:rofl BUT WAIT!! Wasn't that flower the one from the Yuukimaru has a place to return to arc?? I think that counts as filler. ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXMFQkKT3YY

the real power of ms :rofl

HEY! :yelling THAT AINT EVEN FUNNY! I HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME ONCE WHILE WATCHING TELETUBBIES!!! :iik

:eyeroll

[Weapon_X]

:rofl BUT WAIT!! Wasn't that flower the one from the Yuukimaru has a place to return to arc?? I think that counts as filler. ;)
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HEY! :yelling THAT AINT EVEN FUNNY! I HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME ONCE WHILE WATCHING TELETUBBIES!!! :iik

:eyeroll

To tell you the truth I ain't see the Yukimaru Arc because I don't like the fillers in Naruto Shitpuuden (Wait, even the cannon episodes have fillers). They always concentrate on the fodder characters like Hinata, Ino and such. :p

You were Tsukiyomied whilst you were watching Teletubbies? Who Tsukiyomied you? Tweenies?

[Essence]

To tell you the truth I ain't see the Yukimaru Arc because I don't like the fillers in Naruto Shitpuuden (Wait, even the cannon episodes have fillers). They always concentrate on the fodder characters like Hinata, Ino and such. :p

You were Tsukiyomied whilst you were watching Teletubbies? Who Tsukiyomied you? Tweenies?

the worst filler ever:mad, i had to watch spectacular spiderman just to pass trough that.

[Weapon_X]

the worst filler ever:mad, i had to watch spectacular spiderman just to pass trough that.

LMAO! :rofl HAHA! Spectacular spiderman? That made my day today. *wipes a tear*

[-Ren Boy-]

LMAO! :rofl HAHA! Spectacular spiderman? That made my day today. *wipes a tear*

LOOL Marvel are trying to prolong the franchise by adding these next wierd installments that are not even good LOL

Back on topic, But really who does think that Kakashi needs to have a girlfriend. He does nothing but reads books, and he looks like a cool dude to sweet talk some chicks. Too bad for every date with a girl he is like 3 hours late
HEY thats why he has no girlfriends because he is always lates :blink lol

[chess4]

the fillers that gave any real relevence to the story was the first filler arc in part 1. it should sakura how useless she was and how she came to study under tsunande, but since then the fillers have been unbearable. i don think they would be so bad if they would shorten the arcs

[Essence]

LOOL Marvel are trying to prolong the franchise by adding these next wierd installments that are not even good LOL

Back on topic, But really who does think that Kakashi needs to have a girlfriend. He does nothing but reads books, and he looks like a cool dude to sweet talk some chicks. Too bad for every date with a girl he is like 3 hours late
HEY thats why he has no girlfriends because he is always lates :blink lol

Well he can always go with Kurenai, you know becoming step father to her baby. or he could hookup with Anko if he's into snake chicks.

[Baron Hugenstein]

HEY! :yelling THAT AINT EVEN FUNNY! I HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME ONCE WHILE WATCHING TELETUBBIES!!! :iik

:eyeroll


At least..Teletubbies is less frighting than Snow white....that stuff isn't meant to be watched by those above 12 year-old.....:iik:iik:iik:iik

[Kusachu]

the fillers that gave any real relevence to the story was the first filler arc in part 1. it should sakura how useless she was and how she came to study under tsunande, but since then the fillers have been unbearable. i don think they would be so bad if they would shorten the arcs


Aw, what are you saying?? You didn't think that Thundercat Mizuki and the Idiot Brothers added anything of value to the story?!? And what about the Star Country ninja?!? Or the curry of life?!? Geez! There's no pleasing some people. :eyeroll :p

[keencole]

I'm sorry, this is impulsive and It's totally (One piece; Ace to Whitebeard -esque) but what if Sasuke showed up to kill Danzo saying "I will make Naruto Hokage!" Wouldn't that blow every ones mind?

[Googlez_kun]

I'm sorry, this is impulsive and It's totally (One piece; Ace to Whitebeard -esque) but what if Sasuke showed up to kill Danzo saying "I will make Naruto Hokage!" Wouldn't that blow every ones mind?

that would be as random as jiraiya saying that he's gay
that'd blow my mind too!

[Essence]

Revenge pf the uchiha lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8pOTYH0qJw&feature=channel_page

[-Ren Boy-]

that is really good, the lip sync almost matches the words and it was just brilliant. I rated 5 stars :p

[nat]

Thanx Essence :luv
I love trailer amvs...most are fail, but then there are they few truly amazing ones. Like this one!
(Ok it needs smoother music, but still)
Sasuke is a man who will exceed his limit and make awesome quotes.

[Nonlife]

My dad just died right before 5 p.m. today
R.I.P. Dad (A. J. Heister Sr.)

[nat]

Sorry to hear that, my condolences :(

[Googlez_kun]

Sorry to hear that, my condolences :(

so why have you thanked him?^^'

anyway
from me too,I'm sorry for you:(

[jdw]

My dad just died right before 5 p.m. today
R.I.P. Dad (A. J. Heister Sr.)

Sorry for your loss. Best wishes to you, you family, and friends.


so why have you thanked him?^^'

anyway
from me too,I'm sorry for you:(

It is thanks for support, and for him sharing a deeply personal moment with his MH family

[Baron Hugenstein]

My Condolences, Nonlife :(.

_________________________

On a off subject, found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVkhwJ-hQmE&feature=channel_page

[Nonlife]

Sorry for your loss. Best wishes to you, you family, and friends.



It is thanks for support, and for him sharing a deeply personal moment with his MH family

Pretty much how Sakura has acted lately entails the opposite of what I'm going through right now (I know sooner, or later, I'll cry, it just makes you think). God, I watched George Carlin on Youtube talking about death a few hours before he passed-and I knew it would be today. This also reminds me of Kutner from House, but that was suicide. Anyhoo, I hope things look up in Naruto-does Mangahelpers need assistance of any sort, right now.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

It's better to cry, let it out, man tears did no harm in the past. If you don't, it'll explode out in a more dramatic way.

[-Ren Boy-]

Sorry to hear, best wishes

OMG look what I found this beastly fan fiction of Minato Gaiden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP6WFY2DVbk

[Essence]

Sorry to hear, best wishes

OMG look what I found this beastly fan fiction of Minato Gaiden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP6WFY2DVbk

That was great especially the part where naruto look at himself and his parents together, remind me of harry potter. damn i wish the animators would animate kakashi gaiden instead of wasting their budget on fillers:mad.

[-Ren Boy-]

you should watch more on the related videos there is more and it goes in depth with how naruto got his name and minatos legacy while ruiling Konoha

[jdw]

That was great especially the part where naruto look at himself and his parents together, remind me of harry potter. damn i wish the animators would animate kakashi gaiden instead of wasting their budget on fillers:mad.

It was announced that Kakashi Gaiden is being animated this summer, as far as I recall.

[HPTR Fangirl]

It was announced that Kakashi Gaiden is being animated this summer, as far as I recall.

Air date is 7/30/2009.
Source: tv.com (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi's+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy's+Life!+(1)/episode/1273586/summary.html)

[digitaldude]

My dad just died right before 5 p.m. today
R.I.P. Dad (A. J. Heister Sr.)

I feel your lose, my father died too, about a year ago.


And is kakashi gaiden going to be a special or split into normal episodes?

[KiSwordsman]

Ok, I just watched the 2 latest shippuden episodes, and for some reason I feel sorry for Orochimaru. I don't no y. Maybe it's because the anime over dramatizes things, but I couldn't help but feel sorry for the dude.

[HPTR Fangirl]

And is kakashi gaiden going to be a special or split into normal episodes?

Kakashi Gaiden is gonna be shown in two parts. The names of the episodes are as follows

Kakashi's Gaiden - The Battlefield of a Boy's Life! (1) (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi's+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy's+Life!+(1)/episode/1273586/summary.html)
Kakashi's Gaiden - The Battlefield of a Boy's Life! (2) (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi%27s+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy%27s+Life%21+%281%29/episode/1273596/summary.html)

Both episodes will be shown on the same day, which is 7/30/2009, according to tv.com

[Black Lagoon]

My dad just died right before 5 p.m. today
R.I.P. Dad (A. J. Heister Sr.)

I just read it, my condolences too.

@ -Ren Boy- - thank you I forgot about Minato, I can't wait to see what's gonna do naruto now, tell everyone the 4th is his Father?

[nat]

I think all the revelations are accumulating to reach one very silly point. shounen style

[jaymizzo]

I think all the revelations are accumulating to reach one very silly point. shounen style

lol @ ur sig

[bean]

Kakashi Gaiden is gonna be shown in two parts. The names of the episodes are as follows

Kakashi's Gaiden - The Battlefield of a Boy's Life! (1) (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi%27s+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy%27s+Life%21+%281%29/episode/1273586/summary.html)
Kakashi's Gaiden - The Battlefield of a Boy's Life! (2) (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi%27s+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy%27s+Life%21+%281%29/episode/1273596/summary.html)

Both episodes will be shown on the same day, which is 7/30/2009, according to tv.com
wow....canon they get through quick but bullshit filler they try to extend as long as possible.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

The fillers have stopped or mostly stopped from what I know, though I'm not watching the anime.

[adel123456789]

My dad just died right before 5 p.m. today
R.I.P. Dad (A. J. Heister Sr.)

sorry for your loos though i think i shouldnt have thanked your post for that.

[Nonlife]

sorry for your loos though i think i shouldnt have thanked your post for that.

It's okay-MH just doesn't have a "Pat on the back-button" option

[Black Lagoon]

The fillers have stopped or mostly stopped from what I know, though I'm not watching the anime.

yeah mostly stopped, it's been 3 weeks, the first was like a documentary weasel eaten by a Snake then the snake was eaten by a Hawk, AH! i forget there was Sasuke fighting Orochimaru, the second week Sasuke win, and the last a heard they did some filler not filler, filler but doesn't match with the manga.

[Essence]

yeah mostly stopped, it's been 3 weeks, the first was like a documentary weasel eaten by a Snake then the snake was eaten by a Hawk, AH! i forget there was Sasuke fighting Orochimaru, the second week Sasuke win, and the last a heard they did some filler not filler, filler but doesn't match with the manga.

Yep, they be trying to tie filler with the canon story and that's a very horrible idea. I'm sure there are a few people on this forum who could write a better filler than the animators.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

yes he did!
he saw him in his old mask and he knew that it was madara,but not in the new one,though it hasn't changed drastically so he should know him

I know he knew the guy in the mask was Madara, but in the new period, did he ever see Tobi, the 'new' guy of Akatsuki, if he didn't then he couldn't know tobi was madara, he would have had to see his face/mask.

[Weapon_X]

I know he knew the guy in the mask was Madara, but in the new period, did he ever see Tobi, the 'new' guy of Akatsuki, if he didn't then he couldn't know tobi was madara, he would have had to see his face/mask.

Of course he knew who Madara was otherwise how the hell would Itachi know about Akatsuki? It had to be Madara to tell him to join Akatsuki and therefore Itachi knows that Tobi is Madara. Anyway this is just underestimating Itachi's intelligence. I'm sure he knew who Tobi was. :blink

[Googlez_kun]

I know he knew the guy in the mask was Madara, but in the new period, did he ever see Tobi, the 'new' guy of Akatsuki, if he didn't then he couldn't know tobi was madara, he would have had to see his face/mask.

he saw him while sealing the three tails,when itachi was a hologram and tobi was really there,so he should've seen him

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Of course he knew who Madara was otherwise how the hell would Itachi know about Akatsuki? It had to be Madara to tell him to join Akatsuki and therefore Itachi knows that Tobi is Madara. Anyway this is just underestimating Itachi's intelligence. I'm sure he knew who Tobi was. :blink

I know that, but Itachi might have not have known how Tobi looked like, which is why he could never tell it's Madara. Of course if he saw Tobi he would know it was Madara, but did he ever see Tobi, I know he saw Madara with the mask, but when Tobi joins, Itachi wouldn't have known the appearance of tobi and only hear that strange voice.
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he saw him while sealing the three tails,when itachi was a hologram and tobi was really there,so he should've seen him

Itachi would have seen this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/329/13/

I don't think he could conclude from that he was Madara and that's assuming he's in a position where theres a view to see Tobi.

[jdw]

I know that, but Itachi might have not have known how Tobi looked like, which is why he could never tell it's Madara. Of course if he saw Tobi he would know it was Madara, but did he ever see Tobi, I know he saw Madara with the mask, but when Tobi joins, Itachi wouldn't have known the appearance of tobi and only hear that strange voice.
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Itachi would have seen this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/329/13/

I don't think he could conclude from that he was Madara and that's assuming he's in a position where theres a view to see Tobi.

He probably would have at least considered that it was Madara, given the assortment of powerful shinobi. He may not have concluded it was Madara.

[Weapon_X]

I know that, but Itachi might have not have known how Tobi looked like, which is why he could never tell it's Madara. Of course if he saw Tobi he would know it was Madara, but did he ever see Tobi, I know he saw Madara with the mask, but when Tobi joins, Itachi wouldn't have known the appearance of tobi and only hear that strange voice.
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Itachi would have seen this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/329/13/

I don't think he could conclude from that he was Madara and that's assuming he's in a position where theres a view to see Tobi.

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-354/page012.html

You need to look at that clearly. You can see Tobi is there, and Itachi is also there. He has seen Tobi.

And besides, both of the masks are the same. They both have the right eye hole and not the left eye hole so if Itachi saw him first with that mask and then saw him again as Tobi with a different mask, Itachi would know Tobi is Madara. Anyway, the link prooves he has seen Tobi clearly.

[jaymizzo]

Anyone!! Everyone who posts after this!!
Name your favorite jutsu

pleeease

[jdw]

Anyone!! Everyone who posts after this!!
Name your favorite jutsu

pleeease

My favorite is Hiraishin. If I could have one in real life though, I would take Kage Bunshin.

[Weapon_X]

Anyone!! Everyone who posts after this!!
Name your favorite jutsu

pleeease

My favourite is Madara's Space/time Ninjutsu. No drawbacks, nothing can attack you, it's flawless (currently). :)

[jdw]

My favourite is Madara's Space/time Ninjutsu. No drawbacks, nothing can attack you, it's flawless (currently). :)

It is unclear if that is a single jutsu, imo.

[Weapon_X]

It is unclear if that is a single jutsu, imo.

What do you mean? :blink It's Madara's Jutsu. :blink

[nat]

Anyone!! Everyone who posts after this!!
Name your favorite jutsu

pleeease

Chidori Nagashi....aka pikachu power
Don't know why but it's the best thing ever....:wtf

[jdw]

What do you mean? :blink It's Madara's Jutsu. :blink

He is a single user, but in my opinion it is unclear whether the phasing through attacks is the same jutsu as his space/time teleportation. It may be, but I just have questions about it :)

[bean]

What do you mean? :blink It's Madara's Jutsu. :blink
he's saying that his warping from one place to another may be a different jutsu from his ability to let things go through him.

[THM Nindo]

Kakashi Gaiden is gonna be shown in two parts. The names of the episodes are as follows

Kakashi's Gaiden - The Battlefield of a Boy's Life! (1) (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi's+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy's+Life!+(1)/episode/1273586/summary.html)
Kakashi's Gaiden - The Battlefield of a Boy's Life! (2) (http://www.tv.com/Naruto/Kakashi%27s+Gaiden+-+The+Battlefield+of+a+Boy%27s+Life%21+%281%29/episode/1273596/summary.html)

Both episodes will be shown on the same day, which is 7/30/2009, according to tv.com

Yeah, it's like a special episode or something, because the 3rd movie (I think the plot revolved around Kakashi) will be released the same day or something like that.
[hr]

Anyone!! Everyone who posts after this!!
Name your favorite jutsu

pleeease

BY far Hiraishin.

Look at this!!
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs23/300W/i/2007/327/b/3/Hiraishin_by_kunoichi_san.jpg

Can't wait to see that in animation!! :tem

[Weapon_X]

he's saying that his warping from one place to another may be a different jutsu from his ability to let things go through him.

Or it could just be the same Jutsu. He uses it and at the speed of light or something even greater than that appears at the same exact place again...just saying. :)
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Chidori Nagashi....aka pikachu power
Don't know why but it's the best thing ever....:wtf

:rofl :rofl Pikachu power. haha. Epic comment.

[nat]

@ nindo...
you mean normal pace or lame shippuden pace...
because it's extremely fast> by animation standard it becomes normal speed for us

that is without the physics class and flashback treatment.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5271/6p7ycszhd4.png

[Googlez_kun]

@ nindo...
you mean normal pace or lame shippuden pace...
because it's extremely fast> by animation standard it becomes normal speed for us

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5271/6p7ycszhd4.png

that kisame is awesome!!!:XD
you more?:wtf

[nat]

that kisame is awesome!!!:XD
you more?:wtf


Kisame is always awesome...they should have Kisame/Kirabi gifs made...just for the lulz
why glad you ask http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/nfandom/kakashithumbs.gif

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/466/newgbll8.gif


ps I stole from NF :)

[jaymizzo]

Yeah, it's like a special episode or something, because the 3rd movie (I think the plot revolved around Kakshi) will be released the same day or something like that.

Dint u read that ur gonna have to mention your favorite jutsu's? :oh

My favorite have to be!!
1) Shinra tessai
2) Hiraishin
3) most Doton jutsus ( i hate suitons, they never pwn!! )
4) Kyuubi blasts (they have some serious pwnage power)
5) all Rasengans
6) All Justus used by Itachi :XD

Favorite Characters
1) Yondaime and Madara
2) Itachi and Naruto
3) Jiraiya
3) Kakashi
4) Pein (not Nagato, Pein)
5) Gaara and Orochimaru

Most hated Characters
1) Sasuke
2) Sakura
3) Inoichi
4) Karin
5) Hanzo (lost respect for him)

Most favorite Naruto moments
1) Naruto punching sasuke during their vally end fight
2) Jiraiya pervy moments
3) Any time an attack connects on Sasuke
4) Pein vs naruto
5) Pein vs Jiraiya

Most respected battles
1) Peins vs Jiraiya
2) Itachi vs Sasuke

Saddest moments
1) jiraiyas death
2) Nagatos death
3) Deidaras death
4) When Sasuke was leaving naruto
5) When Naruto got news on pervy sage dying

guyz!! can we all do this.. preeety please..!! please!! please!! please!

[Essence]

Favorite Jutsu
1. Space time ninjutsu/Hiraishin
2.All Ms techniques
3.Shinra tensei
4. Rasenshuriken (in sage mode)
5.Raikiri

Favorite Characters
1. Yondaime
2. Itachi
3.Naruto
4.kakashi
5.Sasuke (most of the time)

Most hated Characters
1.Sakura (most of the time)
2.Karin
3.all filler characters
4.Sai (lacks character development)
5.The 2 village elders

Most favorite Naruto moments
1. Naruto returning with a cape and a scroll
2. Jiraiya flashback and death
3. Tobi being reveal as madara
4. The village welcoming back Naruto from pain defeat
5. Yondaime meeting Naruto

Most hated moment
1.Whenever naruto or sakura whines about sasuke
2. Danzou killing the toad( that's just animal cruelty)
3.Nagato bringing people from the dead.
4.The way itachi died
5.Naruto I can relate to your pain moments.

[THM Nindo]

Dint u read that ur gonna have to mention your favorite jutsu's?

Huh,yeah...
I already told you that my favorite jutsu was Hiraishin...



:ohguyz!! can we all do this.. preeety please..!! please!! please!! please!


You have awkward demands...

But, anyway, I have time to waste, so I'll go along with this...

Favorite jutsu :
1) Hiraishin
2) All Tensei's jutsu (Shinra Tensei, Benshou Tenin, Chibaku Tensei)
3) All Sharingan's hax jutsu (Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi, Susano'o)
4) Rasengan and Chidori
5) All basics but so awesome jutsu (Clones, Henge, Kawirami)

Honorable mention : Sexy-no-jutsu!!

Favorite Characters
1) Jiraiya
2) Naruto
3) Minato
4) Kakashi
5) Sakura (Love interest!)

Most hated Characters
1) Sasuke
If I have to pick one that doesn't deserve anything good, I'll have to pick Sasuke. That bastard doesn't deserve to live happy in the end.
2) Hinata
Just because she's in the way for a perfect NaruSaku ending :tem

Honorable mention : Iruka... I like him because he's like a father to Naruto, but could he be more useless!!! :s

PS: If you include the filler character, then it would be without any doubt, the "Water-jello" guy from the Sanbi filler... this character was just the worst thing ever...
No wait... is it worst than Tiger-Mizuki!?... I wonder...

Most favorite Naruto moments
1) Naruto's moments of fame (Beating Kiba, Beating Neji, Beating Gaara, Beating Pain)
2) All NaruSaku moments
3) Sasuke being killed twice by Killerbee (Magic moment! :tem)
4) Sasuke being told that he failed his mission
5) Sasuke trying to be cool and looking really dumb as his Chidori go right through Madara...

Actually, everytime Sasuke looks stupid bring joy to my heart ! :tem

Honorable mention : Naruto beating the crap out of Sasuke (coming next in a couple of weeks!)

Most respected battles
1) Naruto vs Gaara
2) All Shikamaru's battle
3) Jiraiya vs Pain
4) Sasuke vs Itachi
5) Sasuke vs Deidera
6) Naruto (4 tails) vs Orochimaru

Honorable mention : Naruto+Sasuke vs Zabuza (first time Naruto show how good he is to get strategy in the action!)

Saddest moments
1) Jiraiya's death
2) Kakashi's death
3) Naruto vs Sasuke at VOTE
4) Everytime Naruto reflects on his past (ex: Speech to Gaara, etc)
5) Asuma's death

Honorable mention : Haku's and Zabuza's deaths... pretty sad...
Especially in the anime, with the "Sadness and Sorrow" song.

Actually, everytime this song plays, it's a really sad moment.
Just listen to this brings tears to my eyes :tem
http://www.imeem.com/evrythincool/music/PNOXNKLC/naruto-sadness-and-sorrow-best-version/

[nat]

nindo, all that sasuke hate... How can bear it?????

[Essence]

nindo, all that sasuke hate... How can bear it?????

lol sasuke bashing has become a tradition for most people. i don't know why, i find the character likeable most of the time.

[nat]

Funny thing I used to dislike him before itachi died, but the death of my fav character along with the sasuke hatred pushed me into liking him.

Whatever people hate, I like.

Izzat a berserk quote in your sig :wtf??

[Fortisdiablos]

I don't hate Sasuke, but his choice of actions in part II have been making me like him less and less.

In the part prior to the time skip, I like Sasuke about as much as I like Naruto.

[Essence]

I don't hate Sasuke, but his choice of actions in part II have been making me like him less and less.

In the part prior to the time skip, I like Sasuke about as much as I like Naruto.

Sasuke for me is a great character especially in part 2. a lot of people don't like him cause he is arrogant but arrogance is part of most fighters. Sasuke remind me of Kratos from god of war, thay are both Antiheroes and has a since of Arrogance, plus they are both avengers. In the end sasuke is likable for me cause he is an avenger and is very powerful, that combination makes him a bad mofo.

[Jaegger]

I think Sasuke is honestly way more awesome than Naruto. Specially the previous arcs when he seemed so evil and all while naruto was more like a child.

[CBlitz]

lol Sasuke more awesome? What are you people smoking? lol j/k

I find it kinda cool that Naruto and Sasuke have pretty much switched personalities since the beginning. Sasuke used to be calm and logical, now he's just an erratic retard. And I'd never thought that Naruto would one day be the most mature guy in the series

[S.I.M Editor]

Sasuke for me is a great character especially in part 2. a lot of people don't like him cause he is arrogant but arrogance is part of most fighters. Sasuke remind me of Kratos from god of war, thay are both Antiheroes and has a since of Arrogance, plus they are both avengers. In the end sasuke is likable for me cause he is an avenger and is very powerful, that combination makes him a bad mofo.

i think its just that he basically wasted his brothers efforts lol.

but as itachi said, hes still naive.

i honestly, do like sasuke. more than before. my favourite characters are madara and itachi, they are tied for first.

i like that sasuke is doing things to avenge his brother though.

[Googlez_kun]

i personnaly liked him more back in part 1
but now he is just a confused,manipulative and naive kid in puberty
and he is overestimating himself
i mean his goal to kill danzou is not that hard to achieve,but doing it while 4 other kage are around *facepalm*
that's stuuupid!

[THM Nindo]

nindo, all that sasuke hate... How can bear it?????

I don't really hate him...
When I look back at Part1, he was one of my favorite character...

But, as soon as he started to try to kill Naruto and Sakura, he went down on my list...

Seriously, do you really want that bastard to be back to Konoha with the happy ending and having him revive his clan with Sakura!?
That would be so much bullshit...

[jdw]

I don't really hate him...
When I look back at Part1, he was one of my favorite character...

But, as soon as he started to try to kill Naruto and Sakura, he went down on my list...

Seriously, do you really want that bastard to be back to Konoha with the happy ending and having him revive his clan with Sakura!?
That would be so much bullshit...

I'd only accept a happy ending for Sasuke if he did some great act to save Naruto or Konoha and was supposed to die but miraculously lived through the sacrifice. Then, I could go along with him posssibly returning to Konoha or going off with Sakura to create a ghetto uchiha village.

[Googlez_kun]

i don't want a new uchiha clan!
all they do is causing trouble:notrust

[Weapon_X]

i don't want a new uchiha clan!
all they do is causing trouble:notrust

But this time they will be pink haired barbie Uchihas. :amuse


I don't really hate him...
When I look back at Part1, he was one of my favorite character...

But, as soon as he started to try to kill Naruto and Sakura, he went down on my list...

Seriously, do you really want that bastard to be back to Konoha with the happy ending and having him revive his clan with Sakura!?
That would be so much bullshit...


He only did that to make everyone think he is a villain, that's how Kishi made him, to get all the suspense and shit up.

But as time went along, his actions started to be for the good rather then evil like killing Deidara, Oro, Itachi etc apaprt from hunting down Killer Bee. But this is a Shounen, and Sasuke is a main character so he will be alive. It would take Kishi to sacrifice his nutsack to kill Sasuke. -_-;

Anyway there is so much that he can revive his clan. I'm sure he isn't going to be like "Hey Sakura, you looking fine. Let's have 100 kids and enjoy sex!" LOL

[THM Nindo]

I'd only accept a happy ending for Sasuke if he did some great act to save Naruto or Konoha and was supposed to die but miraculously lived through the sacrifice. Then, I could go along with him posssibly returning to Konoha or going off with Sakura to create a ghetto uchiha village.

Yeah, it's the same for me...
I think the best way that this manga could end for Sasuke would be to have him sacrifice his life for Naruto and Konoha...

But, since it's a Shounen and that they almost always have a freaking happy ending, I'm guessing it will end with Sasuke well-alive, forgiven and forever happy with Sakura... :mad

[weehoo107]

Yeah, it's the same for me...
I think the best way that this manga could end for Sasuke would be to have him sacrifice his life for Naruto and Konoha...

I've always wanted it to end this way. Sasuke sacrificing his life of his own free will. It would atone for all the mistakes he has made and I bet if he did Kishi would end his last sentence ever spoken in the Naruto manga with a smile. :D

[THM Nindo]

He only did that to make everyone think he is a villain, that's how Kishi made him, to get all the suspense and shit up.

What are you talking about!?
Sasuke tried to kill Naruto three times just to look like a villain!?
(Unless you're talking about Kishi making Sasuke looks like a villain, but even so, that doesn't justify anything)

Here Naruto would be dead if it wasn't for Kyubbi :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/228/10-11/

Here Naruto would be dead if it wasn't for Sai :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/308/02/

Here Sakura would probably be dead if it wasn't for Yamato :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/308/07/

Here, most likely, the whole Team Kakashi might have been killed if it wasn't for Orochimaru :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/14/

So, no matter what happen, it will never erase the fact that Sasuke is an asshole and that he tried to kill the only people that really loved him.

[Weapon_X]

What are you talking about!?
Sasuke tried to kill Naruto three times just to look like a villain!?
(Unless you're talking about Kishi making Sasuke looks like a villain, but even so, that doesn't justify anything)

Here Naruto would be dead if it wasn't for Kyubbi :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/228/10-11/

Here Naruto would be dead if it wasn't for Sai :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/308/02/

Here Sakura would probably be dead if it wasn't for Yamato :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/308/07/

Here, most likely, the whole Team Kakashi might have been killed if it wasn't for Orochimaru :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/14/

So, no matter what happen, it will never erase the fact that Sasuke is an asshole and that he tried to kill the only people that really loved him.

At VOTE the fact is Sasuke still never killed him because he didn't want to achieve power like the way Itachi did. He had a chance to kill him right at the end, but he didn't. He walked away and even before that, Sasuke had chances to "kill" but he didn't.

Also when Sasuke meets Team 7, that's his first appearance in the second part of the manga so Kishi had to make him badass and make everyone think that he is a true villain because he wants to kill Team 7. If his first apperance in second part was like he betrays Oro and goes with Naruto and returns to Konoha, that would be a shit plot.

[jdw]

At VOTE the fact is Sasuke still never killed him because he didn't want to achieve power like the way Itachi did. He had a chance to kill him right at the end, but he didn't. He walked away and even before that, Sasuke had chances to "kill" but he didn't.

Also when Sasuke meets Team 7, that's his first appearance in the second part of the manga so Kishi had to make him badass and make everyone think that he is a true villain because he wants to kill Team 7. If his first apperance in second part was like he betrays Oro and goes with Naruto and returns to Konoha, that would be a shit plot.

Saying that does not remove the fact that he tried to kill Naruto originally, and that he was only stopped because Naruto moved Sasuke's hand at the last second. The word "tried" exists for a reason.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

LOL Sasuke has helped the world by taking part in the downfall of 3 Akatsuki and former members and counting.

[jdw]

LOL Sasuke has helped the world by taking part in the downfall of 3 Akatsuki and former members and counting.

He may have played a role in taking 3 members/former members, but he replaced them temporarily with himself and 3 others.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

He may have played a role in taking 3 members/former members, but he replaced them temporarily with himself and 3 others.

3 others that aren't Akatsuki level which leaves himself, so takes 3, gives 1 , good deal. Yeah so again he helped the world.

[jdw]

3 others that aren't Akatsuki level which leaves himself, so takes 3, gives 1 , good deal. Yeah so again he helped the world.

So because they are not "akatsuki level" they dont count, even though they each helped in tracking down Bee? Taka, a platoon, was moving with Akatsuki, and tried to do their assigned task. If Sasuke left Taka and helped Akatsuki alone, it would make sense. That is not what happened.

[bean]

the other three WERE akatsuki though, not just some punk kids wearing the cloaks

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

So because they are not "akatsuki level" they dont count, even though they each helped in tracking down Bee? Taka, a platoon, was moving with Akatsuki, and tried to do their assigned task. If Sasuke left Taka and helped Akatsuki alone, it would make sense. That is not what happened.

Who are people going to fear Deidara, Orochimaru and Itachi or Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo and Sasuke?

[jdw]

Who are people going to fear Deidara, Orochimaru and Itachi or Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo and Sasuke?

Sasuke's name rings out as the killer of Oro, and as an Uchiha. People did fear Juugo, at a minimum, if you want to be honest. As the originator of the curse seal, he strikes out fear when his name comes up. Karin and suigestsu not so much, I admit.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Sasuke's name rings out as the killer of Oro. People did fear Juugo, at a minimum, if you want to be honest. As the originator of the curse seal, he strikes out fear when his name comes up. Karin and suigestsu not so much, I admit.

Juugo or Orochimaru? Fact is those 3 would shit on Taka anyday.

[jdw]

Juugo or Orochimaru? Fact is those 3 would shit on Taka anyday.

Fine. Taka doesn't count. I will go along just so you can justify Sasuke's actions by trying to balance out what he has given and taken.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Fine. Taka doesn't count. I will go along just so you can justify Sasuke's actions by trying to balance out what he has given and taken.

What has Sasuke given to Akatsuki so far? A tentacle clone. Well done sir.

[THM Nindo]

LOL Sasuke has helped the world by taking part in the downfall of 3 Akatsuki and former members and counting.

He might have helped in the dead of three former Akatsuki members, but he didn't do it for the world. He did it for himself.

I just hope that Sasuke is NOT pulling an Itachi.

It would be nice to see that Naruto and Sasuke are killing the bad guys on both side (Naruto killing them as Part of Konoha's ninja, and Sasuke killing them from the inside).

But, I would like it so that at the end, the only enemy left is Sasuke.
And that he owns all power, and that to bring peace, Naruto most make the ultimate sacrifice, a sacrifice even bigger than what his father did.

He needs to kill the one he loves the most.
Naruto will have to kill Sasuke.

THAT would be an Epic ending.

A lot better than the fluffy happy ending with rainbows and uricorns that we will most likely get in the end. :eyeroll

[jdw]

What has Sasuke given to Akatsuki so far? A tentacle clone. Well done sir.

The fact that he gave them himself and 3 others temporarily, despite being involved in the deaths of three members/former members, which you are dismissing by discounting the abilities of the people. He tried to deliver Bee, thought he did and failed. Doesn't make his team effort any less poorly intentioned.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

He might have helped in the dead of three former Akatsuki members, but he didn't do it for the world. He did it for himself.

I just hope that Sasuke is NOT pulling an Itachi.

It would be nice to see that Naruto and Sasuke are killing the bad guys on both side (Naruto killing them as Part of Konoha's ninja, and Sasuke killing them from the inside).

But, I would like it so that at the end, the only enemy left is Sasuke.
And that he owns all power, and that to bring peace, Naruto most make the ultimate sacrifice, a sacrifice even bigger than what his father did.

He needs to kill the one he loves the most.
Naruto will have to kill Sasuke.

THAT would be an Epic ending.

A lot better than the fluffy happy ending with rainbows and uricorns that we will most likely get in the end. :eyeroll

Naruto isn't going to kill Sasuke. Not to say Sasuke won't die but Naruto won't kill him, Sasuke isn't 100% evil yet anyway.
[hr]

The fact that he gave them himself and 3 others temporarily, despite being involved in the deaths of three members/former members, which you are dismissing by discounting the abilities of the people. He tried to deliver Bee, thought he did and failed. Doesn't make his team effort any less poorly intentioned.


LOL Sasuke has helped the world by taking part in the downfall of 3 Akatsuki and former members and counting.

How does this change the fact he's helped the world to an extent in his actions? Never said it was intentional help, just that what he's done has been so far beneficial to people.

[jdw]

Naruto isn't going to kill Sasuke. Not to say Sasuke won't die but Naruto won't kill him, Sasuke isn't 100% evil yet anyway.
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How does this change the fact he's helped the world to an extent in his actions? Never said it was intentional help, just that what he's done has been so far beneficial to people.

killing them/being involved in deaths and temporarily replacing them, then trying to kidnap a jinchuuriki, and willfully moving in a way that at least as of right now appears to be furthering Madara's plans might not helpful to the world.

[jaymizzo]

killing them/being involved in deaths and temporarily replacing them, then trying to kidnap a jinchuuriki, and willfully moving in a way that at least as of right now appears to be furthering Madara's plans might not helpful to the world.

truth is!! Sasuke is Gay For power!! He has hax eyes and still isnt satisfied!! he has hax abilities!! but yet.. insists on wanting to loose them i.e. dying - fighting a jinchuuriki, tyrna fight madara, Planing to assasinate the hokage in a Kage meeting :blink

Sasuke is Evil!!

[THM Nindo]

Have you guys noticed how lame most of the Akatsuki members death were :

Look at this :

Sasori - Suicide (Chiyo said he could have move, but didn't)
Deidera - Suicide
Pain - Suicide
Itachi - Suicide

How many people will kill themself in this group!?!?

Only Kakuzu and Hidan fought until the end.
Everyone else just commit suicide...

[jaymizzo]

Have you guys noticed how lame most of the Akatsuki members death were :

Look at this :

Sasori - Suicide (Chiyo said he could have move, but didn't)
Deidera - Suicide
Pain - Suicide
Itachi - Suicide

How many people will kill themself in this group!?!?

Only Kakuzu and Hidan fought until the end.
Everyone else just commit suicide...

these akatsuki members wer lost souls!!! and really dint know wat the hell theyre life was abt!!
Nagato was traumatized
Itachi was in love with the bro
Deidara Art is explosions
Sasori.. i think it was smfin abt his parents
theyre suicides wer just a way of redemption lol

[Black Lagoon]

i don't want a new uchiha clan!
all they do is causing trouble:notrust

I feel pity for them, they have been discriminated
All what happening now (war, hatred...) it's cuz of that discrimination

[Googlez_kun]

these akatsuki members wer lost souls!!! and really dint know wat the hell theyre life was abt!!
Nagato was traumatized
Itachi was in love with the bro
Deidara Art is explosions
Sasori.. i think it was smfin abt his parents
theyre suicides wer just a way of redemption lol

i agree,but nevertheless it was suicide
[hr]

I feel pity for them, they have been discriminated
All what happening now (war, hatred...) it's cuz of that discrimination

there could be a solution
they could just move away,but their f*cking pride didn't allow that so they fought and lost
so actually it's not the discrimination,but their pride

[Black Lagoon]

i agree,but nevertheless it was suicide
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there could be a solution
they could just move away,but their f*cking pride didn't allow that so they fought and lost
so actually it's not the discrimination,but their pride

I understand your point but : IMO

they were in equal forces ( IMO they are the strongest), one can't stand while another is taking away his right, you know the pride for a man is everything, if he lost his pride it's like he's been vanished from the earth, or lost the balls which prove he's a man and can defend himself. They didn't lost cuz they were weak, but cuz they were tired of the war, when Madara motivated them to fight they said he was mad and they are pissed off with the war, he was humiliated by his own people, friends, nakama..., because they were blind. But when they realized it was too late.

[nat]

I don't really hate him...
When I look back at Part1, he was one of my favorite character...

But, as soon as he started to try to kill Naruto and Sakura, he went down on my list...

Seriously, do you really want that bastard to be back to Konoha with the happy ending and having him revive his clan with Sakura and Naruto!?
That would be so much bullshit...

Correction

:)
We do have the right to have a favorite ship.

I'm not in it for the purity of ideals, I'm in it for what I think is realistic and true. Someone screws over your clan and forces your brother to do horrible things> I don't think you'll be acting like Naruto all lovey dovey....

truth be said.

"peace, peace, peace" well good luck with that> Damn shounen and their silliness, If the story didn't have a lot characters I like, I would have dropped it for seinen. Revenge doesn't fulfill but it's logical.
I didn't always feel that way, but when I read stories like Vinland Saga and so on, Naruto seems nothing more than a story with childish and simplistic morals (except for the Akatsuki/Uchiha parts that is).

[Belisar]

truth be said.

"peace, peace, peace" well good luck with that> Damn shounen and their silliness, If the story didn't have a lot characters I like, I would have dropped it for seinen. Revenge doesn't fulfill but it's logical.
I didn't always feel that way, but when I read stories like Vinland Saga and so on, Naruto seems nothing more than a story with childish and simplistic morals (except for the Akatsuki/Uchiha parts that is).
true words sister. http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1201/salutegr7.gif

some shounen manga are soooo full of cliche, i want to puke when i read them.

[Essence]

Correction

:)
We do have the right to have a favorite ship.

I'm not in it for the purity of ideals, I'm in it for what I think is realistic and true. Someone screws over your clan and forces your brother to do horrible things> I don't think you'll be acting like Naruto all lovey dovey....

truth be said.

"peace, peace, peace" well good luck with that> Damn shounen and their silliness, If the story didn't have a lot characters I like, I would have dropped it for seinen. Revenge doesn't fulfill but it's logical.
I didn't always feel that way, but when I read stories like Vinland Saga and so on, Naruto seems nothing more than a story with childish and simplistic morals (except for the Akatsuki/Uchiha parts that is).

This is exactly why i like sasuke he is a multilayered character. He is not a static character that is all happy and willing to let things go, he has a past that haunts him and he makes it his goal to fix it. Sure peace and bond are a good quality for people to learn, but its a bit unrealistic when you have a village that order the killing of your clan, ending your very dreams. Then again unless you understand the source of someone hatred or perspective, you won't be able to understand them

[jaymizzo]

Correction

:)
We do have the right to have a favorite ship.

I'm not in it for the purity of ideals, I'm in it for what I think is realistic and true. Someone screws over your clan and forces your brother to do horrible things> I don't think you'll be acting like Naruto all lovey dovey....

truth be said.

"peace, peace, peace" well good luck with that> Damn shounen and their silliness, If the story didn't have a lot characters I like, I would have dropped it for seinen. Revenge doesn't fulfill but it's logical.
I didn't always feel that way, but when I read stories like Vinland Saga and so on, Naruto seems nothing more than a story with childish and simplistic morals (except for the Akatsuki/Uchiha parts that is).

Narutos way of thinking really aplies in real life!!
1) Obama is like naruto.. heck i think the guy even read this manga

2) There was a woman whose son got killed, the woman was asked if she would like to pass judgement on the murderer, but she said no!! "he has got punishment enough"

Naruto's way of peice is extremely logical compared to revenge!! "revenge breeeds hatred and hatred breeds deaths"
Imagine if us black people decided to take revenge on the white faulks coz of slavery or racism!!? all there will be is Bloodshed!! Instead all we want is peace!!
thts narutos way of thinking!!
Sasuke on the other hand is like hitler!! take out anyone who doesnt agree with my ideals! ( im not a historician but im sure thts what hittlers motto was ) and tht sure as hell is sasuke's
If you want a reference.. here it is
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/15/

the only manga tht ive read and thought hasnt much sense is bleach..lol (i love it tho :) )

[Essence]

Narutos way of thinking really aplies in real life!!
1) Obama is like naruto.. heck i think the guy even read this manga

2) There was a woman whose son got killed, the woman was asked if she would like to pass judgement on the murderer, but she said no!! "he has got punishment enough"

Naruto's way of peice is extremely logical compared to revenge!! "revenge breeeds hatred and hatred breeds deaths"
Imagine if us black people decided to take revenge on the white faulks coz of slavery or racism!!? all there will be is Bloodshed!! Instead all we want is peace!!
thts narutos way of thinking!!
Sasuke on the other hand is like hitler!! take out anyone who doesnt agree with my ideals! ( im not a historician but im sure thts what hittlers motto was ) and tht sure as hell is sasuke's
If you want a reference.. here it is
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/15/

the only manga tht ive read and thought hasnt much sense is bleach..lol (i love it tho :) )

That is really incorrect:blink. Naruto is not like Obama. While Obama desire peace he is also the president of America which means he also has to be tough. If someone came and attack america, he's not just gonna stand there and preach peace, he'll attack back. And that is very logical of Obama. Now naruto peace is that he thinks he can change everyone with it, that's very unrealistic because he thinks he can save everyone. You can't always change everyone belief, plus theres compromise. which means there are time Naruto have to sacrifice his initial ideal for the greater good, but he is stubborn and thinks he can do all. As for sasuke, he's not Hitler:blink. you don't see him forcing people to believe in what he believe. He is an avenger and simple as that.

[nat]

Even Obama has more than peace going on, as any president he's into power and profit ^^ no matter how he sugar coats it. He got elected because people want prosperity, not peace with the world.

On topic

Some people might turn the other cheek, but in most realistic cases, despair and grief is a very strong emotion. Too strong to let down. Sasuke is a flawed character, he's not perfect and he can't let go of his grief. That's what's interesting about him. Nothing is pure and true, on each turn of the war someone wants to kill him. (last on the list Madara threatened him if he doesn't play well)

Gaara was killing people for the lulz, why don't you hate him?
Sasuke does what he has to, I would do the same. I guess that is the bottom line, each person agrees with the character whose principles they see close.

I would never see eye to eye with a "save the world with love" kind of person. Far too childish.

[THM Nindo]

Even Obama has more than peace going on, as any president he's into power and profit ^^ no matter how he sugar coats it. He got elected because people want prosperity, not peace with the world.

On topic

Some people might turn the other cheek, but in most realistic cases, despair and grief is a very strong emotion. Too strong to let down. Sasuke is a flawed character, he's not perfect and he can't let go of his grief. That's what's interesting about him. Nothing is pure and true, on each turn of the war someone wants to kill him. (last on the list Madara threatened him if he doesn't play well)

Gaara was killing people for the lulz, why don't you hate him?
Sasuke does what he has to, I would do the same. I guess that is the bottom line, each person agrees with the character whose principles they see close.

I would never see eye to eye with a "save the world with love" kind of person. Far too childish.

I totally agree with you that Naruto's point of view about peace is childish and less realistic that the vengeful way that Sasuke took.

But then, if you don't like the childish stuff, you certainly are not wishing for a happy ending where everyone is happy-happy and where Sasuke is forgiven, right?

Having it end like that would be far more childish than anything that I've seen in this manga so far.

[nat]

I thanked you because I agree on some things in your post...but not all, I do want a special ending and not the generic open happy ending
but it all depends on the story buildup :)

[jaymizzo]

That is really incorrect:blink. Naruto is not like Obama. While Obama desire peace he is also the president of America which means he also has to be tough. If someone came and attack america, he's not just gonna stand there and preach peace, he'll attack back. And that is very logical of Obama. Now naruto peace is that he thinks he can change everyone with it, that's very unrealistic because he thinks he can save everyone. You can't always change everyone belief, plus theres compromise. which means there are time Naruto have to sacrifice his initial ideal for the greater good, but he is stubborn and thinks he can do all. As for sasuke, he's not Hitler:blink. you don't see him forcing people to believe in what he believe. He is an avenger and simple as that.

E.g
Naruto has really only forgiven one person who killed his masters!! 1 person!!
look at it this way, If America used Japan as a battle field after the hiroshima nagasaki Nuking!! And they decided to strike back!! im sure Obama would call it even!!
Naruto's Forgiveness is to those who shared the same pain as he did!! and to those whom konoha has troubled in the past years/ wars
We havent seen him Forgive anyone else!!
[hr]

I totally agree with you that Naruto's point of view about peace is childish and less realistic that the vengeful way that Sasuke took.

But then, if you don't like the childish stuff, you certainly are not wishing for a happy ending where everyone is happy-happy and where Sasuke is forgiven, right?

Having it end like that would be far more childish than anything that I've seen in this manga so far.

it realy isnt childish!! Narutos view on peace is more mature than revenge!!
He knows by forgiving those who are willing to change will bring about Peace!! but im sure he wont forgive madara!! or anyother person who doesnt wana change!!

[THM Nindo]

it realy isnt childish!! Narutos view on peace is more mature than revenge!!
He knows by forgiving those who are willing to change will bring about Peace!! but im sure he wont forgive madara!! or anyother person who doesnt wana change!!

It is childish.

Ask yourself, could this work in anything other than a Fairy tale and a Shounen!?

Nope. That would never happen in the real world, so it's only for child stories.
Thus, it is childish.

On the other hand, someone going out for revenge and killing everyone for revenge is realistic.
You could see that in the real life, so it's not just for child story.

[jaymizzo]

It is childish.

Ask yourself, could this work in anything other than a Fairy tale and a Shounen!?

Nope. That would never happen in the real world, so it's only for child stories.
Thus, it is childish.

On the other hand, someone going out for revenge and killing everyone for revenge is realistic.
You could see that in the real life, so it's not just a child story.

ive seen the forgiveness thing happen in real life!!
like i said in my previous post.
a woman had her only son killed and was asked if she wanted the murderer killed, and she said no!! he is already getting punishment enough from the guilt of killing an innocent boy

[THM Nindo]

ive seen the forgiveness thing happen in real life!!
like i said in my previous post.
a woman had her only son killed and was asked if she wanted the murderer killed, and she said no!! he is already getting punishment enough from the guilt of killing an innocent boy

Yeah, but did the woman made the killer become a good guy that will go and tell everyone about peace!?

In the end, Sasuke's method (killing the bad guys) is much more realistic than Naruto (convincing all the bad guy that peace is better).

[sindergi]

It is childish.

Ask yourself, could this work in anything other than a Fairy tale and a Shounen!?

Nope. That would never happen in the real world, so it's only for child stories.
Thus, it is childish.

On the other hand, someone going out for revenge and killing everyone for revenge is realistic.
You could see that in the real life, so it's not just a child story.

For me someone is more matured if he didnt kill everyone for revenge - for me its self-administered justice.
A person who did something like this is seriously ill in my opinion - killing should never be an option (self-defense is something different)....and yes im strictly against death penalty........
[hr]

Yeah, but did the woman made the killer become a good guy that will go and tell everyone about peace!?

In the end, Sasuke's method (killing the bad guys) is much more realistic than Naruto (convincing all the bad guy that peace is better).

realistic ? Imagine if we do this in the real world - lets kill everyone from which we think he is a bad guy.......ok convincing all the bad guy that peace is better wouldn´t work either in reality but its better then killing them

[THM Nindo]

For me someone is more matured if he didnt kill everyone for revenge - for me its self-administered justice.
A person who did something like this is seriously ill in my opinion - killing should never be an option (self-defense is something different)....and yes im strictly against death penalty........

realistic ? Imagine if we do this in the real world - lets kill everyone from which we think he is a bad guy.......ok convincing all the bad guy that peace is better wouldn´t work either in reality but its better then killing them

Hmmm...
I'm not saying that Sasuke's method is best.

For sure, I'm all for peace and if it was as easy as having a little talk with all the bad guys in the world, I'd go talk to them.

But in the real life, Naruto's method would never work.
That's why I say it's childish thoughts.

[nat]

In the real world there is something called courts and judgment. If there were no punishments through that system, some people might take the law in their own hands.
In Naruto it's the ninja system that's flawed, both boys are trying to move within it.

Sasuke wants his revenge on the people who cause the death of his family (top tier of the system) while Naruto wants to re-do the entire system. In both ways a big action is required to change the system and its heads. The Elders (danzou included) move according to their justice and pay nothing for their crimes.

As Nindo said, Sasuke's way is not the best nor it is perfect but it's something that's very possible in the world.

[Essence]

Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-6f6sZStEo&feature=channel_page

[sindergi]

Hmmm...
I'm not saying that Sasuke's method is best.

For sure, I'm all for peace and if it was as easy as having a little talk with all the bad guys in the world, I'd go talk to them.

But in the real life, Naruto's method would never work.
That's why I say it's childish thoughts.

I totally agree.
But if I had to decide I would choose Naruto´s way.......the right way is certainly somewhere between Naruto´s and Sasuke´s way or maybe something totally different. I think nobody can tell at the moment which is THE right way to gain peace - if so why we dont have peace on the world....

All I want to say is that I just dont want to believe that the way to stop the killing and to gain peace is to kill people ! Thats sound absurd to me....there has to be another way.

Hey but this only Narutoverse and not so complex like the real world so maybe Naruto or Sasuke will find a way - at least for the Narutoverse.....

[nat]

Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-6f6sZStEo&feature=channel_page

zomg< I think she raped him....
poor sasuke, though great job on the editing and subs. those guys are really good.

[sindergi]

In the real world there is something called courts and judgment. If there were no punishments through that system, some people might take the law in their own hands.
In Naruto it's the ninja system that's flawed, both boys are trying to move within it.

Sasuke wants his revenge on the people who cause the death of his family (top tier of the system) while Naruto wants to re-do the entire system. In both ways a big action is required to change the system and its heads. The Elders (danzou included) move according to their justice and pay nothing for their crimes.

As Nindo said, Sasuke's way is not the best nor it is perfect but it's something that's very possible in the world.

Yeah I know what you mean, but doesnt have Konoha (or better had) some kind of police (executive), the uchicha-clan. And they have some kind of legislative,too (elders and so on), so I think they have some courts too (judiciary).

[nat]

I said later in the post that the system heads are the problem, :)
they do have all that court justice stuff. But what can you do if the judge himself issued the death order on the family long time ago? :D

[sindergi]

I said later in the post that the system heads are the problem, :)
they do have all that court justice stuff. But what can you do if the judge himself issued the death order on the family long time ago? :D

ups I oversight this :D sorry

But yeah I agree the main problem is that they dont have some kind of democracy in Konogakure.....or we didnt know if they have one but having a feudal lord doesnt sound very democratic for me :D

[-Ren Boy-]

But check out this Yondaime fan fiction gaiden, it is better than Toyble's fan fiction on dragonball af

[nat]

we know Ren ^^ everyone saw it.

[-Ren Boy-]

Ouch you say it as if I wearn't the ones who introduced it into. There are some new faces to the Naruto HO thread. I just wanted to say

Now I am going to leave, cry and just carry on crying :crying


you know what nat, just go back to canada lol. I think us meeting was a bad idea, just go back LOL :p¬direct quote from vegeta from alternative reality DRAGONBALL Z
(warning everything said above was a JOKE please don't take it as an OFFENCE)
Anyone like the recent shippuuden movie?

[Essence]

Ouch you say it as if I wearn't the ones who introduced it into. There are some new faces to the Naruto HO thread. I just wanted to say

Now I am going to leave, cry and just carry on crying :crying


you know what nat, just go back to canada lol. I think us meeting was a bad idea, just go back LOL :p¬direct quote from vegeta
(warning everything said above was a JOKE please don't take it as an OFFENCE
Anyone like the recent shippuuden movie?

Ah vegeta, theres no anime character today that could ever hope to surpass the man awesomeness. most people tend to forget he was the one that made DBZ bearable to watch.The shipuuden movies for me sucks, hell for me all the naruto movies except the first one suck. I hate the naruto movies because there basically a recycle of the same ideas. Naruto meets a brat and end up changing them, and always some ridiculous form of the rasengan, also theres always weapons made of chakra. The movies are basically like a Tyler perry movie, the same damn story everytime.

[nat]

Ouch you say it as if I wearn't the ones who introduced it into. There are some new faces to the Naruto HO thread. I just wanted to say

Now I am going to leave, cry and just carry on crying :crying


you know what nat, just go back to canada lol. I think us meeting was a bad idea, just go back LOL :p¬direct quote from vegeta from alternative reality DRAGONBALL Z
(warning everything said above was a JOKE please don't take it as an OFFENCE)
Anyone like the recent shippuuden movie?

Ren.....I never knew I hurt you this much......:Shakeheadicon
Soooo sad, anyway what I said that most people know that one :p :p :p
(And I do like England, as a matter of fact I'll leave as soon as I see TDA, he's such an icon of your country :nod)


I personally don't like those fanstories because kishi will crush them later on, and what's the use of reading and imaging something to be true only to have kishi say...."this is really how it happened, you should have waited for my awesome story instead" :p

so I'll wait for Kishi's version, which he said he wants to do. and with a franchise as big as Naruto, it's only a matter of time for Yondi and Itachi to get some light.

[HPTR Fangirl]

Ouch you say it as if I wearn't the ones who introduced it into. There are some new faces to the Naruto HO thread. I just wanted to say

Now I am going to leave, cry and just carry on crying :crying


you know what nat, just go back to canada lol. I think us meeting was a bad idea, just go back LOL :p¬direct quote from vegeta from alternative reality DRAGONBALL Z
(warning everything said above was a JOKE please don't take it as an OFFENCE)
Anyone like the recent shippuuden movie?
Unfortunately, I never got to watch neither the first nor the second Shippudden movie. :crying

I watch the movies when the DVDs come out, and unfortunately the price at Amazon is $99.99 (the last time I checked for the first one). So I'm going to have to wait for quite sometime. :crying

[sindergi]

Unfortunately, I never got to watch neither the first nor the second Shippudden movie. :crying

I watch the movies when the DVDs come out, and unfortunately the price at Amazon is $99.99 (the last time I checked for the first one). So I'm going to have to wait for quite sometime. :crying

I appreciate your position to buy the movies, but you know that there a some different ways to watch the movies :tem.....without buying them

I watched every Shippudden movie - and I own only the first on DVD :D

[nat]

you good sir are evil, but then again I don't blame you....such horrible story movies are a bit expensive....

Sonia, I admire your stand on Naruto DVDs :wtf

[-Ren Boy-]

Ren.....I never knew I hurt you this much......:Shakeheadicon
Soooo sad, anyway what I said that most people know that one :p :p :p
(And I do like England, as a matter of fact I'll leave as soon as I see TDA, he's such an icon of your country :nod)


I personally don't like those fanstories because kishi will crush them later on, and what's the use of reading and imaging something to be true only to have kishi say...."this is really how it happened, you should have waited for my awesome story instead" :p

so I'll wait for Kishi's version, which he said he wants to do. and with a franchise as big as Naruto, it's only a matter of time for Yondi and Itachi to get some light.

Well it is good you consider my feelings

Oh look, watch a few of naruto characters doing the carameldansen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4-JWbHonKU&feature=PlayList&p=039806F18DC76F2D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11
Tobi and Deidara doing it is the funniest lol

There is some unnesacary bits lol

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

I don't buy Naruto dvds or manga or games, if I want to watch the movies which I don't since they are garbage and just hook up online, easy and simple and you don't waste money. I would somewhat could by the dvds if they had any relevance to canon, but they don't and I don't see it as a worthwhile purchase. I'm not a good Naruto fan because I don't support the company by giving them the money, I'm somewhat a free-rider, manga isn't big to me as football or games are. :(

[-Ren Boy-]

Unfortunately, I never got to watch neither the first nor the second Shippudden movie. :crying

I watch the movies when the DVDs come out, and unfortunately the price at Amazon is $99.99 (the last time I checked for the first one). So I'm going to have to wait for quite sometime. :crying
Well there is no point in crying, you haven't missed out on much

UNLESS your a HARDCORE fan lol

some girls only watched number 2 because they saw Sasuke half naked lool
[hr]

I don't buy Naruto dvds or manga or games, if I want to watch the movies which I don't since they are garbage and just hook up online, easy and simple and you don't waste money. I would somewhat could by the dvds if they had any relevance to canon, but they don't and I don't see it as a worthwhile purchase. I'm not a good Naruto fan because I don't support the company by giving them the money, I'm somewhat a free-rider, manga isn't big to me as football or games are. :(
Thank god for internet basically. Thank god for onemanger, the only manga site that is not laggy

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Well there is no point in crying, you haven't missed out on much

UNLESS your a HARDCORE fan lol

some girls only watched number 2 because they saw Sasuke half naked lool
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Thank god for internet basically. Thank god for onemanger, the only manga site that is not laggy

I reckon mangafox is better than Onemanga, in the sense I'm guessing here but I think it has more collection of manga plus is faster at loading. Mangashare is good as well. For Naruto it's the best since it has Binktopia scans online exclusive.

[HPTR Fangirl]

I appreciate your position to buy the movies, but you know that there a some different ways to watch the movies :tem.....without buying them

I watched every Shippudden movie - and I own only the first on DVD :D

My mac computer is slightly old so I can't watch episodes / movies online, unless it's on youtube. My computer everytime asks to download flash 10 to watch episodes from crunchyroll, Hulu or other online websites. When I do that, unfortunately, I've to reboot my entire computer from the start since my other programs, including safari give me heck troubleshoot. In other words, if download anything with flash, my computer stops working. :darn

About the DVDs - I usually wait until they [DVDs] come to the public library. That's how I watched the first 3 Naruto movies. But if I really want to watch it, then nothing stops me from purchasing it though (except for the price):XD
Though Naruto Shippudden movies are on my watchlist to purchase.

[-Ren Boy-]

Isn't it about the internet now a days because evreything is stream and like you dont have to download.
So if you have crappy internet then it is bound to have crappy download speed lol

Computers are only slow WHEN there is alot of files

lol MH does get really slow sometimes, like now it is messing uo :mad

[HPTR Fangirl]

Isn't it about the internet now a days because evreything is stream and like you dont have to download.
So if you have crappy internet then it is bound to have crappy download speed lol

Computers are only slow WHEN there is alot of files

lol MH does get really slow sometimes, like now it is messing uo :mad

I only get to watch stream if I use my dad's computer PC, not the mac that I use. Even if I use other online webs for watching (streaming) Naruto episodes, I get the warning that the flash that I've in my computer is an old one, and is not compitable to watch the episode online. So I've to download flash 10, if I want to watch streaming episode / video.

[-Ren Boy-]

Damn that is torture. But at least you have a computer or there would be a limited time when your on the computer lol

I feel in a nostalgic mood, I'm going to watch some classic naruto episodes
world domination mwhahah

[Belisar]

Gaara was killing people for the lulz, why don't you hate him?

gaara did it with style. :nod how can we hate this little rascal. :)

[nat]

gaara did it with style. :nod how can we hate this little rascal. :)

It's all about style, Kakashi can poke someone is the @$$ and still make it look classy..



http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5271/6p7ycszhd4.png kisame agrees

[jdw]

It's all about style, Kakashi can poke someone is the @$$ and still make it look classy..



http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5271/6p7ycszhd4.png kisame agrees
lol

In the nexy chapter of sharingan, I full expect him to show Gaara and the other Kages styling :)

[Essence]

I miss the old sinister Gaara.

[jdw]

I miss the old sinister Gaara.

I think the non-murderous Gaara will probably end up being cooler, especially now that he can get some sleep.

[-Ren Boy-]

Lol he has been gone for over 2 and a half years. I miss the guy lol

His personality now suits the preducament he is in and the start of the hokage

like his personallity suited in part 1

[Essence]

I think the non-murderous Gaara will probably end up being cooler, especially now that he can get some sleep.

I like the non murderous Gaara too but i kind find him a little bit moody every now and then when he doesn't have no killing intent. His sinister ways was what made his characte a total badass ( he is still badass) . Its kinda like Kenpachi always enjoying his fight .

[jdw]

I like the non murderous Gaara too but i kind find him a little bit moody every now and then when he doesn't have no killing intent. His sinister ways was what made his characte a total badass ( he is still badass) . Its kinda like Kenpachi always enjoying his fight .

Murderous Gaara always seemed a bit weird to me. It was probably because he didn't get sleep and was having his personality eaten. If he fights this time, maybe we can see him move around a bit lol.

[nat]

I always loved the philosophical part of Gaara, even when he was murderous he was saying some wisdom or questioning the universe.
When he fights, he talks about strategies and motives and why the world spins around. (none of the other other character do that to his extent)

Itachi was more the philosopher who questioned reality, illusion and consequences of time whereas Gaara tried to look inside people to understand their reasons for living. In that he is better than Naruto, but Naruto is more instinctive intelligence kind of person. (Not deep thinker, that's why Naruto can connect to people, because he doesn't over analyze )

[Weapon_X]

Murderous Gaara always seemed a bit weird to me. It was probably because he didn't get sleep and was having his personality eaten. If he fights this time, maybe we can see him move around a bit lol.

It would be cool is Gaara can do something similar like this, but with sand minerals. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-387/page012.html

The way Itachi re-forms through the crows confusing his enemy, Gaara could do that by spreading sand minerals through the air and when the enemy is confused, BAM! Right in front of their face. :amuse


I always loved the philosophical part of Gaara, even when he was murderous he was saying some wisdom or questioning the universe.
When he fights, he talks about strategies and motives and why the world spins around. (none of the other other character do that to his extent)

Itachi was more the philosopher who questioned reality, illusion and consequences of time whereas Gaara tried to look inside people to understand their reasons for living. In that he is better than Naruto, but Naruto is more instinctive intelligence kind of person. (Not deep thinker, that's why Naruto can connect to people, because he doesn't over analyze )

Agreed. Gaara was a fantastic character when it came to "killing" "hating" and things like that. His murderous intent was awesome, the best in Naruto Part 1. All he wanted to do was kill and just literally had blood on his name.

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-097/page020.html This was a epic moment in the last panel. "I'll kill all you guys" Naruto and Shika wouldn't have had a chance there without Gai interfering.

[nat]

why would he do that? he can make sand crush people before they blink...

But it will be a cool move :D

[sindergi]

why would he do that? he can make sand crush people before they blink...

But it will be a cool move :D

But how much controll did he have over the sand after loosing his bijuu ?
Ok he showed allready that he still can control the sand but some power he lost for sure....

[Weapon_X]

why would he do that? he can make sand crush people before they blink...

But it will be a cool move :D

It's an element of surprise. Nowadays people can dodge his sand easily because people can "see" where the sand is and how it's going to attack because Gaara needs to "direct" it. People can see his movements and dodge the sand.

With the similar move to Itachi thing, no one could know where he is. They would people just think he is hidind or running away but he ain't. And that was able to catch Sasuke off guard and he has the Sharingan so if Gaara had something similar to that, it would be great. It would be something of close combat rather then long ranged combat.

[Delbi]

You know, talking about murderous people, I honestly can't wait till we get to see Kisame a little more and find out what his goals and intentions are.

Aside from Zetsu, we more or less know about each Akatsuki members goals, past, etc, except for Kisame.

Personally, he strikes me as the kind of guy who is laid back and honorable until you piss him off. I have a feeling when he fights Killerbee he's going to lose his cool and unleash something devistating on Bee. I almost don't want to see them fight because it means one of my favorite characters is going to die. :(

[Essence]

You know, talking about murderous people, I honestly can't wait till we get to see Kisame a little more and find out what his goals and intentions are.

Aside from Zetsu, we more or less know about each Akatsuki members goals, past, etc, except for Kisame.

Personally, he strikes me as the kind of guy who is laid back and honorable until you piss him off. I have a feeling when he fights Killerbee he's going to lose his cool and unleash something devistating on Bee. I almost don't want to see them fight because it means one of my favorite characters is going to die. :(

Kisame never really was one my favorite character but i like him cause he was loyal to itachi and look out for his well being.i hope he go out with style when he fights Killerbee.

[Exodi]

Anyone see Transformers?

There was a Naruto poster in the dorm room.

[Delbi]

Kisame never really was one my favorite character but i like him cause he was loyal to itachi and look out for his well being.i hope he go out with style when he fights Killerbee.

So you think Kisame is going to lose huh? I think he's going to trainwreck Bee in the end to be honest lol. I mean he beat the 4 tailed Jinchuriki half to death and that guy used lava jutsu :s .

[jdw]

So you think Kisame is going to lose huh? I think he's going to trainwreck Bee in the end to be honest lol. I mean he beat the 4 tailed Jinchuriki half to death and that guy used lava jutsu :s .

Sadly, we did not get to see that fight, so while Kisame is surely strong, we have no idea how it went down :(

I am too conflicted about this fight because it seems unfair.

I want Bee to live & train Naruto
I want Kisame to live and kill Gai/get killed by Lee
I want Kisame to kill Suigetsu

This fight might rob me of these things :(

[Delbi]

Sadly, we did not get to see that fight, so while Kisame is surely strong, we have no idea how it went down :(

I am too conflicted about this fight because it seems unfair.

I want Bee to live & train Naruto
I want Kisame to live and kill Gai/get killed by Lee
I want Kisame to kill Suigetsu

This fight might rob me of these things :(

Well, I personally don't think Bee can train Naruto, I think there situations are far too different, and I don't think the Kyuubi is ever going to be "nice" or cooperative in anyway.

However, I think they are bound to meet and make some kind of connection. Sadly, I think that connection will be cut when Kisame comes walking by with Shamehada.

My prediction is that Bee will be found and won't go back to his village, and shortly after that when Naruto and company leave him, Kisame will fight and capture him for good.

[jdw]

Well, I personally don't think Bee can train Naruto, I think there situations are far too different, and I don't think the Kyuubi is ever going to be "nice" or cooperative in anyway.

However, I think they are bound to meet and make some kind of connection. Sadly, I think that connection will be cut when Kisame comes walking by with Shamehada.

My prediction is that Bee will be found and won't go back to his village, and shortly after that when Naruto and company leave him, Kisame will fight and capture him for good.

The cloud village utilized some some of training program. I am not 100% sure that Bee went through it, but it is clear that Yugito did. He might at least know it exists or how it works even if he did not do it.

Also, we have no idea how different their situations are. No one here knows what Hachibi's disposition was when it was first put into Bee. Training could have affected hachibi's outlook on his situation, and his general willingness to help.

[Kravmaga]

Sadly, we did not get to see that fight, so while Kisame is surely strong, we have no idea how it went down :(

I am too conflicted about this fight because it seems unfair.

I want Bee to live & train Naruto
I want Kisame to live and kill Gai/get killed by Lee
I want Kisame to kill Suigetsu

This fight might rob me of these things :(

And I want Gai/Lee to get screentime again!
It seems like we have overlapping objectives! Care to join me in my blackmail campaign? =P


Well, I personally don't think Bee can train Naruto, I think there situations are far too different, and I don't think the Kyuubi is ever going to be "nice" or cooperative in anyway.

However, I think they are bound to meet and make some kind of connection. Sadly, I think that connection will be cut when Kisame comes walking by with Shamehada.

My prediction is that Bee will be found and won't go back to his village, and shortly after that when Naruto and company leave him, Kisame will fight and capture him for good.

Totally agree with the second part but I've yet to see an argument justifying why a host must consent to being tamed in order to give cooperation.

After all, a beast and his host share a pretty damn big common cause; if my host were in a fight for his life (and by extension, mine), you'd bet your sweet toilet muscle I'd help him get out of a game-ending genjutsu so that horrible things wouldn't happen to me later (such as getting imprisoned into a statue making it possible to exploit and sell my stamina as a live battery), no matter how much I despise the guy's guts. I mean, I probably wouldn't help him avoid a kick in the nuts but I sure as hell would stop a stab to the heart.

Naruto's already shown the capacity to make that bargain before when his heiny was on the line. All bee would really teach him would be "you noob, you lose control because [...] and you can remain in control if [...]"...
Plus, he can also teach him to sing enka so naruto can piss the hell out of sasuke when he faces him...

[Essence]

So you think Kisame is going to lose huh? I think he's going to trainwreck Bee in the end to be honest lol. I mean he beat the 4 tailed Jinchuriki half to death and that guy used lava jutsu :s .

You can't compare bee to the 4th tail. We're talking killer bee the rapper with the dopest rhyme after all. His moves are so great and flexible that it own sasuke like it was childplay. With kisame, lets just say Killer bee gonna be eating some shark fin on that day.

[En Yang Ji]

I doubt Sasuke's has Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi, but if he does have them both, there probably not his.

According to the DB's if an sharingan user has Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi, they can use Susanoo. If that's the case those are the only 3 MS justu Sasuke should be able to use. In the fight against Hachibee Sasuke used a different power.

So assuming that every MS user has only 3 MS jutsu Sasuke, should only have Amaterasu and not Tsukiyomi or Susanoo, because he used a different power. Sasuke probably only has Amaterasu.

[Essence]

One thing that has not been confirmed is whether the techniques of ms user vary or stay the same. i think the MS vary between the users, like Kakashi for example, his Ms ability differed from itachi.

[adel123456789]

Sadly, we did not get to see that fight, so while Kisame is surely strong, we have no idea how it went down :(

I am too conflicted about this fight because it seems unfair.

I want Bee to live & train Naruto
I want Kisame to live and kill Gai/get killed by Lee
I want Kisame to kill Suigetsu

This fight might rob me of these things :(

kisame is gonna die by suigetsu senc it was implaied by sasuke that suigetsu will become stronger. if it isnt him then killer bee or naruto are gonna kill him becuase naruto is gonna look for him then find him maybe after or in the meddel of the battel with kisame.

[gold349]

One thing that has not been confirmed is whether the techniques of ms user vary or stay the same. i think the MS vary between the users, like Kakashi for example, his Ms ability differed from itachi.

kakashi is special case...Madara is readying for some action it will all come clear. I don't think there are so many MS techniques, I don't think they are unique to user...

...'why would the ability to control kyubi come once you awaken MS as standard but everything else is different, why is that standard and everything depends upon user?'.

[Belisar]

sexy rl no jutsu :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG8BEFPSQz4&NR=1

[-Ren Boy-]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA LOOL that is sooo silly. Some people should do comedic naruto dubs of their own and post it on youtube

[Belisar]

kakashi is special case...Madara is readying for some action it will all come clear. I don't think there are so many MS techniques, I don't think they are unique to user...
don't think so also. that would be just tooooo unfair. it's already, though. 4 jutsu is enough. i think that kamui is ems related technique. it looks too similar to madara's space-time ninjutsu. madara just handles it on a whole different scale.

[zerocooldx]

Has anyone else noticed that in the New Art Book Naruto is getting ready to fire off a Kamehameha (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4595fb40307669/) in the botton left corner? Epic.....just epic. :darn

[kai_yondaime]

i dont think that susanoo is MS technique such that any one else having MS would have susanoo ...i dis agree...i think it is itachi's own with that special sword and that special sheild...its just like a summon...i dont think any one else can use it...MS might be the trigger point but itachi evovled it on his own...just like sasuke has done something on his own as well...and i think that madara's technique very closely resembles kakashi's....i hope they dont have any thing in common:p

[-Ren Boy-]

well this seems very plausable
when a itachi got ms, he unlocked amateratsu,tsukyomi and susanoo. the amateratsu was from his right eye and the tsukyomi was from the left eye. So where does susanoo come into the picture. Itachi killed a member of uchiha, and that uchiha he killed could have had susanoo if he did unlock MS himself. So what I'm trying to say if that if a uchiha kills his best friend who is also a uchiha, they get a MS technique, that the best friend would have had if that uchiha unlocked MS

it is like a trait to pass down techniques and stuff lol

[Belisar]

i dont think that susanoo is MS technique such that any one else having MS would have susanoo ...i dis agree...i think it is itachi's own with that special sword and that special sheild...its just like a summon...i dont think any one else can use it...MS might be the trigger point but itachi evovled it on his own...just like sasuke has done something on his own as well...and i think that madara's technique very closely resembles kakashi's....i hope they dont have any thing in common:p
how would orochimaru and zetsu recognise the sword of tetsuka and the yata mirror? it must have neen used somewhere before. like by madara and his brother.

[c0nflikt]

I think kishi is hiding a KUBO-like suprise, cause we all remember when itachi touched sasuke's forehead it meant a lot (He was really a good guy, he transferred his amaterasu) I think that itachi transfered his techniques but sasuke also has 2 techniques of his own he has yet to discover.


this would explain why madara is all ghosty, may be one of his eye techniques.

[-Ren Boy-]

yh sasuke is bound to get his own two techniques

wait, sasuke did not kill orochimaru, but still gained ms. does that mean itachi was sasuke's best friend

[digitaldude]

yh sasuke is bound to get his own two techniques

wait, sasuke did not kill orochimaru, but still gained ms. does that mean itachi was sasuke's best friend

Sasuke`s best friend was naruto, whether he acknowledged it or not.

[Googlez_kun]

yh sasuke is bound to get his own two techniques

wait, sasuke did not kill orochimaru, but still gained ms. does that mean itachi was sasuke's best friend
i think it's even harder to lose your brother so it's the same when you kill your brother if he was close to you

[-Ren Boy-]

Sasuke`s best friend was naruto, whether he acknowledged it or not.

so how did he get ms and naruto is still alive lol
[hr]

i think it's even harder to lose your brother so it's the same when you kill your brother if he was close to you

yh but sasuke was clouded by the fact that he killed his parents

so how did sasuke get MS

surely it can't be because itachi transfered the techniques because there is only one way to get MS and that is to kill your best friend

[Googlez_kun]

yh but sasuke was clouded by the fact that he killed his parents

so how did sasuke get MS

surely it can't be because itachi transfered the techniques because there is only one way to get MS and that is to kill your best friend
no
he gives konoha the fault for the death of his parents!!
and he loved his brother after hearing the whole story and saw how nice itachi,his brother was to him and then he got ms,because of his understanding

[-Ren Boy-]

so maybe thats how he got tsukuyomi, which was a extra feat as itachi already gave him amateratsu

p.s does sasuke know tsukuyomi, didn't he use it against killerbee?

[jdw]

so maybe thats how he got tsukuyomi, which was a extra feat as itachi already gave him amateratsu

p.s does sasuke know tsukuyomi, didn't he use it against killerbee?

Tsukiyomi is a MS genjutsu. His MS was on, and it looked like Tsukiyomi. Bee called it a genjutsu. My assumption is that he was using Tsukiyomi until it is proven otherwise.

[-Ren Boy-]

the tsukiyomi effect was up with the negative colours and that so it is very plausible

[kai_yondaime]

how would orochimaru and zetsu recognise the sword of tetsuka and the yata mirror? it must have neen used somewhere before. like by madara and his brother.

i never said itachi created that sword and the sheild....wht i said was that only itachi can use it unlike other MS techniques which are common to MS users...he might have got it from somewhere that doesnt matter...wht matters is tht only he can use it ...its just the same as gama bunta...it cant be summoned at the same time by 2 persons...however amaterasu can be used by ppl at the same time...so susanoo is a different technique then other 2.....only tht in one time one person can use it...

[THM Nindo]

Sasuke`s best friend was naruto, whether he acknowledged it or not.

Yeah, and he did acknowledged it.
When he was fighting with Naruto, he said it.

But, even if Naruto was his best friend, the bond he shared with him was nothing compared to the bond he shared with his brother.

And I think MS is activated when you break such a strong bond.

PS: There's always the theory that Itachi transfered his MS jutsu and that Sasuke never really activated them :tem

[nat]

But there was blood, a strong bond, a death and a heavy trauma...according to Madara those are key factors to activating the MS.

Besides if Itachi could simply transfer the MS, he didn't need to go that far. He could have ambushed his brother tied him down, gave him MS and then went to die in peace. But he went for a full battle royal. :tem
I think the MS was activated, otherwise why the big charade?

[-Ren Boy-]

it would be wierd for itachi to give ms because like wasn't there only one way. and also wouldn't that be another way of getting EMS :s kishi has left me in a mess

[THM Nindo]

But there was blood, a strong bond, a death and a heavy trauma...according to Madara those are key factors to activating the MS.

Besides if Itachi could simply transfer the MS, he didn't need to go that far. He could have ambushed his brother tied him down, gave him MS and then went to die in peace. But he went for a full battle royal. :tem
I think the MS was activated, otherwise why the big charade?

I agree.
I think Sasuke activated it.

But, the other way is also possible.
Maybe Itachi had Sasuke go all out, so that Orochimaru show up and he could destroy it along with the CS seal.

EDIT:
Okay, I went through those chapters again, and it's pretty clear that Itachi planned on Sasuke activated the MS by killing his brother :

Here : http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/400/16/
Here : http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/03/
Here : http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/15/

[Googlez_kun]

I agree.
I think Sasuke activated it.

But, the other way is also possible.
Maybe Itachi had Sasuke go all out, so that Orochimaru show up and he could destroy it along with the CS seal.

But the problem is :
Didn't Madara said that Itachi transferred all his jutsu, and at the moment he said that, we were shown the "front-head poke"!?

yeah,but he only gave him Amaterasu,which had the prupose to kill madara if he tried to manipulate sasuke

[zerocooldx]

Obviously Itachi lived for Sasuke, and Sasuke alone. And it would be fitting if he indeed did leave something for Sasuke so that he could "protect" himself. I mean Itachi did pretty much take away everything from Sasuke. So i think the Mangekyou Sharingan was his gift to Sasuke. Plus Sasuke got his Mangekyou Sharingan "his" way, so i'm sure he will get the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan through his own methods as well. Now as far as Susano'o is concerned. It makes perfect sense that Itachi left his Susano'o's power to Sasuke. Because if there is one thing that can "hurt" Madara it most likely is Susano'o's Totsuka no Tsurugi. Besides it is said that Susano'o can wield three sacred treasures. Now obviously Itachi got a hold of two of the three. Meaning that there is one more "weapon" out there that is waiting for Sasuke to claim.

[Belisar]

so maybe thats how he got tsukuyomi, which was a extra feat as itachi already gave him amateratsu

p.s does sasuke know tsukuyomi, didn't he use it against killerbee?
madara said that itachi transpalanted all his techniques. so amaterasu and rest.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/11/


so how did he get ms and naruto is still
close means a friend or relative.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/03/

[nat]

whether or not it was Itachi's gift, bottom like Sasuke did activate his own MS. Itachi helped and pushed him to that extent, but the form was purely Sasuke's and not simply a hand-me-down-with-no-effort-MS.


Belisar, we know Madara can lie. So says Minato :)
The MS justu, imo were activated through Itachi's pushing and beating rather than bestowed.

[-Ren Boy-]

no but that person said it in the way as if sasuke killed naruto

plus don't you have to kill your friend to get MS, and Sasuke did not kill orochimaru.

[THM Nindo]

That's where it gets confusing...

Here Madara says that Itachi transfered his jutsu and we see him poking Sasuke :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/11/


Here Madara says that Itachi planned on awekening the MS eyes for Sasuke by letting him kill him :

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/400/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/15/

...

Maybe he activated the eyes by dying and then transferred all of his jutsu by poking him.

So, Sasuke didn't have to train his eyes to "win" Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi and Susano'o (if he has it), and he would be able to use them right away...

[Belisar]

i never said itachi created that sword and the sheild....wht i said was that only itachi can use it unlike other MS techniques which are common to MS users...he might have got it from somewhere that doesnt matter...wht matters is tht only he can use it ...its just the same as gama bunta...it cant be summoned at the same time by 2 persons...however amaterasu can be used by ppl at the same time...so susanoo is a different technique then other 2.....only tht in one time one person can use it...
wha? :err

susanoo is a ms technique. it's out of the question. and amaterasu can be used as often as there are ms user outhere, except kakashi.
[hr]

no but that person said it in the way as if sasuke killed naruto

plus don't you have to kill your friend to get MS, and Sasuke did not kill orochimaru.
WTF? oro was never, i repeat, he was NEVER sasuke's friend. where the fuck did you get this idea from? sorry, but it's just ridiculous. you keep posting so called facts and i keep thinking: did you really read naruto from the beginning or do you skip every second chapter?

it's like saying that sakura likes lee.
[hr]

That's where it gets confusing...

Here Madara says that Itachi transfered his jutsu and we see him poking Sasuke :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/11/


Here Madara says that Itachi planned on awekening the MS eyes for Sasuke by letting him kill him :

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/400/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/15/

...

Maybe he activated the eyes by dying and then transferred all of his jutsu by poking him.

So, Sasuke didn't have to train his eyes to "win" Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi and Susano'o (if he has it), and he would be able to use them right away...
or maybe kishi just screwed up. it wouldn't be the first time. technically did sasuke pushed itachi to the limits and he died. but he transfered all ms jutsu onto him, soo? if sasuke has his own jutsu + itachi's, than i say fuck yo kishi.

[zerocooldx]

Clearly Sasuke awoke his own Mangekyou Sharingan. But if anything Itachi most likely "sped up" the jutsu awakening process so that Sauke would be ready if anything happened. Also Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu really don't posess any type of individuality between different users. So its not like Sasuke's Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu will look different from Itachi's. Now what most likely will happen with Susano'o is that Sasuke will end up "completing" Itachi's Susano'o's arsenal by getting the last treassure. Either way Itachi left behind a power that in his mind, would be able to "protect" Sasuke.

[Belisar]

yeah,but he only gave him Amaterasu,which had the prupose to kill madara if he tried to manipulate sasuke
sasuke got all his jutsu. itachi just set a mechanism that set amaterasu free by the eyesight of madara's sharingan.

[-Ren Boy-]

WTF? oro was never, i repeat, he was NEVER sasuke's friend. where the fuck did you get this idea from? sorry, but it's just ridiculous. you keep posting so called facts and i keep thinking: did you really read naruto from the beginning or do you skip every second chapter?

it's like saying that sakura likes lee.
.
are you trying to deny my opinion.
so who was with sasuke for 2 and half years

sasuke could like him maybe due to oro giving him power

and if you do read my post im trying to take orochimaru out as the reason of why sasuke gained the ms

[zerocooldx]

sasuke got all his jutsu. itachi just set a mechanism that set amaterasu free by the eyesight of madara's sharingan.

That was probably i one time thing to protect Sasuke before he awoke his Mangekyou Sharingan.

[Belisar]

are you trying to deny my opinion.
so who was with sasuke for 2 and half years

sasuke could like him maybe due to oro giving him power

and if you do read my post im trying to take orochimaru out as the reason of why sasuke gained the ms
forge yourself an opinion.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/344/002/

[-Ren Boy-]

but did orochimaru fully die, no. you don't even understand what i'm trying to promote just get off man

[Belisar]

but did orochimaru fully die, no. you don't even understand what i'm trying to promote just get off man
dude you said:

plus don't you have to kill your friend to get MS, and Sasuke did not kill orochimaru.
and i replied that sasuke despised orochimaru. he didn't saw him as friend but as a stepstone to itachi. even if he did killed him, it wouldn't awake his mangekyou sharingan.

i did understand your post, don't worry.

[-Ren Boy-]

i was trying to influence the idea that if sasuke did not get ms through orochimaru

then how did he get that

"plus don't you have to kill your friend to get ms?" that was a question

and i said "and sasuke did not kill orochimaru" because some people would answer with oro

[Essence]

Well assuming that Madara space time warping jutsu is MS related, than MS techniques do vary.For example why would Itachi gave gave sasuke Amaterasu to kill Madara if Madara MS has it and would be able to extinguishing it :eyeroll.

[Asusp3v4x]

Maybe Itachi didn't know that Madara could avoid amaterasu.

Probably Itachi knew about the phasing jutsu but not a possible other jutsu that can easily beat amaterasu.

[-Ren Boy-]

well tobis technique resembles kakashi's

it could be ms but there is a flaw
don't like the eye techniques change with each eye, like one eye does this and the other does that

it wouldn't be right if both eyes did almost the same jutsu, because amateratsu and tsukyomi were so different so it should be the same for any other MS users

[zerocooldx]

Maybe Itachi didn't know that Madara could avoid amaterasu.

Probably Itachi knew about the phasing jutsu but not a possible other jutsu that can easily beat amaterasu.

Madara didn't exactly beat or avoid Amaterasu in any way. That Amaterasu was the only attack that we have seen that actually "hit" Madara. So i highly doubt that he just "phased" that Amaterasu through his body, seeing as it disappeared. And i'm pretty sure that Itachi knew of Madara's "phasing" ability but it seems that he didn't know about a few of Madara's other techniques.

[Googlez_kun]

Madara didn't exactly beat or avoid Amaterasu in any way. That Amaterasu was the only attack that we have seen that actually "hit" Madara. So i highly doubt that he just "phased" that Amaterasu through his body, seeing as it disappeared. And i'm pretty sure that Itachi knew of Madara's "phasing" ability but it seems that he didn't know about a few of Madara's other techniques.

yeah
he used the same ability sasuke used at the end of the kirabi fight
...
so does that mean amaterasu is his weakness?
and that sasuke will defeat madara?....
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..................................
LAME:yelling

[Asusp3v4x]

@zerocooldx

yeah that is exactly... what I meant... :XD

@Renboy

But still... We don't really know if it changes with each eye... Maybe there more powers that the MS user can unlock... remember they didn't really could train with that thing... they would go blind before they could explore their powers even more

[jdw]

Madara didn't exactly beat or avoid Amaterasu in any way. That Amaterasu was the only attack that we have seen that actually "hit" Madara. So i highly doubt that he just "phased" that Amaterasu through his body, seeing as it disappeared. And i'm pretty sure that Itachi knew of Madara's "phasing" ability but it seems that he didn't know about a few of Madara's other techniques.

If something is supposed to burn you into nonexistence, you go offscreen and come back and you still exist and that thing is gone, you beat it as far as I am concerned, we just don't know exactly how. There is no evidence that Itachi or Sasuke canceled the jutsu, and Madara said he was glad he kept some secrets from Itachi. We cannot say he avoided it because it made contact with him, but he definitely beat the jutsu.

[Essence]

If something is supposed to burn you into nonexistence, you go offscreen and come back and you still exist and that thing is gone, you beat it as far as I am concerned, we just don't know exactly how. There is no evidence that Itachi or Sasuke canceled the jutsu, and Madara said he was glad he kept some secrets from Itachi. We cannot say he avoided it because it made contact with him, but he definitely beat the jutsu.

My theory on how he avoided the Amaterasu is that he teleport it somewhere kind of like how he does with body parts

[zerocooldx]

If something is supposed to burn you into nonexistence, you go offscreen and come back and you still exist and that thing is gone, you beat it as far as I am concerned, we just don't know exactly how. There is no evidence that Itachi or Sasuke canceled the jutsu, and Madara said he was glad he kept some secrets from Itachi. We cannot say he avoided it because it made contact with him, but he definitely beat the jutsu.

I'm not going to say Madara necessarily "beat" it because Sasuke just fired off a single burst of Amaterasu. And not to mention the fact that Sasuke had no control over that Amaterasu at all. Plus that single burst of Amaterasu obviously scared Madara half to death. So imagine what a continues stream or even several bursts of Amaterasu could do? Madara obviously feared Itachi for a reason, so untill i see him beat a fully powered Amaterasu i can't say he can beat it just like that.

[-Ren Boy-]

I'm not going to say Madara necessarily "beat" it because Sasuke just fired off a single burst of Amaterasu. And not to mention the fact that Sasuke had no control over that Amaterasu at all. Plus that single burst of Amaterasu obviously scared Madara half to death. So imagine what a continues stream or even several bursts of Amaterasu could do? Madara obviously feared Itachi for a reason, so untill i see him beat a fully powered Amaterasu i can't say he can beat it just like that.

no control over amateratsu, you say that because itachi made amateratsu chase him right?

[jdw]

I'm not going to say Madara necessarily "beat" it because Sasuke just fired off a single burst of Amaterasu. And not to mention the fact that Sasuke had no control over that Amaterasu at all. Plus that single burst of Amaterasu obviously scared Madara half to death. So imagine what a continues stream or even several bursts of Amaterasu could do? Madara obviously feared Itachi for a reason, so untill i see him beat a fully powered Amaterasu i can't say he can beat it just like that.

Amaterasu, by its nature, is not supposed to require a stream or several bursts. It is supposed to make contact and burn the object into nothingness, whether streamed, bursted, or otherwise. Madara was on fire. He left the frame. He came back into frame alive and no longer on fire. There is nothing to suggest things would have ended differently with a stream or burst. Contact is supposed to be enough.

[Delbi]

My guess is Madara used his space time jutsu to go somewhere, and then allowed Ameratsu to phase through him. If he would have just let it phase through him where he stood the compound he was in would have burned down.

[Essence]

My guess is Madara used his space time jutsu to go somewhere, and then allowed Ameratsu to phase through him. If he would have just let it phase through him where he stood the compound he was in would have burned down.

Exactly what i was thinking except some slight difference, I think he just send Amaterasu trough some sort of void that he also use to teleport.

[zerocooldx]

Amaterasu, by its nature, is not supposed to require a stream or several bursts. It is supposed to make contact and burn the object into nothingness, whether streamed, bursted, or otherwise. Madara was on fire. He left the frame. He came back into frame alive and no longer on fire. There is nothing to suggest things would have ended differently with a stream or burst. Contact is supposed to be enough.

You can't honestly tell me that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) and this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/) are the same thing.

[Delbi]

You can't honestly tell me that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) and this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/) are the same thing.

They are the exact same thing.

Like any technique, Ameratsu is only as powerful as how much chakra you put into it.

Sasuke was nearly dead when he used that Ameratsu on Madara, he was exausted, and thus when forced to use Ameratsu, he couldn't use a lot of chakra.

When fighting Bee, he had plenty of chakra left or so it would seem, and thus was able to burn Bee to a crisp.

[zerocooldx]

They are the exact same thing.

Like any technique, Ameratsu is only as powerful as how much chakra you put into it.

Sasuke was nearly dead when he used that Ameratsu on Madara, he was exausted, and thus when forced to use Ameratsu, he couldn't use a lot of chakra.

When fighting Bee, he had plenty of chakra left or so it would seem, and thus was able to burn Bee to a crisp.

What are you talking about? Sasuke didn't even use his own Amaterasu it was all Itachi and his power. While against Killer Bee Sasuke was literally half dead, just re-read the chapters.

[jdw]

You can't honestly tell me that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) and this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/) are the same thing.

It does not have to be the same. Amaterasu is supposed to engulf whatever it touches. It can grow as it engulfs. Look here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/) and here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/04/). You can see it grow. Madara's clothes were not even messed up! It was beaten, get over it.

The amount of amaterasu flames were never said to matter. The only difference should be the speed with which the object burns (a little takes longer, a lot goes faster), not whether it burns at all or is beaten.

[Belisar]

You can't honestly tell me that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) and this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/) are the same thing.
honestly, i'm speechless. :oh

some people don't stop to "amaze" me. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/faceplam.png

[Delbi]

What are you talking about? Sasuke didn't even use his own Amaterasu it was all Itachi and his power. While against Killer Bee Sasuke was literally half dead, just re-read the chapters.

He got brought back to life twice and was completely fine each time when he was healed. He had enough chakra left to summon a massive amount of Ameratsu then use Chidori and dispel the Ameratsu.

When the Ameratsu fired against Madara it came from Sasuke's eye, and thus Sasuke's chakra was used to power it. There's no way Itachi could have powered the jutsu because he had zero chakra left when he transfered the techniques to Sasuke, remeber he died of exaustion.

[zerocooldx]

It does not have to be the same. Amaterasu is supposed to engulf whatever it touches. It can grow as it engulfs. Look here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/) and here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/04/). You can see it grow. Madara's clothes were not even messed up! It was beaten, get over it.

The funny thing is that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/04/) was after Amatrasu was fired, while this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) is exactly when it was fired off. And obviously the Amaterasu against Killer Bee is 1000 bigger that the one that attacked Madara. Power wise they are in no way related and the difference between the two is very clear buddy.

[jdw]

The funny thing is that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/04/) was after Amatrasu was fired, while this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) is exactly when it was fired off. And obviously the Amaterasu against Killer Bee is 1000 bigger that the one that attacked Madara. Power wise they are in no way related and the difference between the two is very clear buddy.

Ok, I am gonna say one last thing and stop. If after this you don't get it, it will no longer be my concern. Amaterasu is a flame that cannot be extinguished. Period. Whether the user casts 20 cubic feet or 2000 cubic feet, the flames are not supposed to be put out until the object is completely and utterly consumed. The word inextinguishable does not itself imply a relationship to the amount of flames cast, and no person in the manga did either, so only someone struggling to make a point would infer it on their own.

[zerocooldx]

So what people are saying is that a small flame is exactly the same thing as a wildfire because both are suppose to burn lolz? :oh Madara did something to a half-assed Amaterasu that was fired off of the power of a dead guy. And i'm saying that if Madara encountered Sasuke's Amaterasu it would be a whole different story.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

You could extinguish Amaterasu using a sealing jutsu.

[zerocooldx]

You could extinguish Amaterasu using a sealing jutsu.

Of course you can, as Jiraiya showed us. But i hope (lolz) we can all agree that sealing a few small flames and a forest fire are two very different things. And that you can't judge the full power of something untill you encounter that full power.

[Googlez_kun]

Of course you can, as Jiraiya showed us. But i hope (lolz) we can all agree that sealing a few small flames and a forest fire are two very different things. And that you can't judge the full power of something untill you encounter that full power.

well you don't know what a seal is capable of too

[zerocooldx]

well you don't know what a seal is capable of too

True, but i would assume that the sealing jutsu the Jiraiya used on the left-over flames of Amaterasu would probably not seal the flames that engulfed the battle field of Sasuke and Itachi. At the very least it would require more chakra to seal if not a completely different sealing jutsu.

[Googlez_kun]

True, but i would assume that the sealing jutsu the Jiraiya used on the left-over flames of Amaterasu would probably not seal the flames that engulfed the battle field of Sasuke and Itachi. At the very least it would require more chakra to seal if not a completely different sealing jutsu.

but it's still possible!
we don't know for sure....

[godaijutsu-no-hito]

I bet everyone has noticed this, but the way to extinguish amarterasu is quite simple really...you just have to use the other eye to extinguish it. I hadn't realized this until recently. Furthermore, the second link shows that Itachi did the same with Sasuke.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/07/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/07/

So basically, Itachi knew all along as to how the fire is subdued...I say this because some people still seem to believe otherwise. I think the title "new power" referred to the new power acquired by Sasuke...and not an altogether new power.

I wonder what Sasuke wants to try out though (as he stated in the latest chapter).

[Weapon_X]

So what people are saying is that a small flame is exactly the same thing as a wildfire because both are suppose to burn lolz? :oh Madara did something to a half-assed Amaterasu that was fired off of the power of a dead guy. And i'm saying that if Madara encountered Sasuke's Amaterasu it would be a whole different story.

Okay look Amaterasu is Amaterasu. Nothing else. It grows once it's been made contact with the victim.

Madara example:
1. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-397/page003.html
2. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-397/page004.html

As you can see it grown until it consumes the victim. It's not going to get any bigger than that because Madara is not the 8 tailed ox. He is the size of a human so Amaterasu would stop once it consumes his body.

Killer Bee example:

1. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-415/page002.html

The reason Amaterasu was big there was because of the Ox's SIZE. Amaterasu would keep consuming until it reaches the end. That's the only reason. They were the same Amaterasus.

[zerocooldx]

Okay look Amaterasu is Amaterasu. Nothing else. It grows once it's been made contact with the victim.

Madara example:
1. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-397/page003.html
2. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-397/page004.html

As you can see it grown until it consumes the victim. It's not going to get any bigger than that because Madara is not the 8 tailed ox. He is the size of a human so Amaterasu would stop once it consumes his body.

Killer Bee example:

1. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-415/page002.html

The reason Amaterasu was big there was because of the Ox's SIZE. Amaterasu would keep consuming until it reaches the end. That's the only reason. They were the same Amaterasus.


The funny thing is that this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/04/) was after Amatrasu was fired, while this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/02-03/) is exactly when it was fired off. And obviously the Amaterasu against Killer Bee is 1000 bigger that the one that attacked Madara. Power wise they are in no way related and the difference between the two is very clear buddy.

And i'm honestly lol'ing at the fact that you think a small flame and a forest fire are the same thing just because both are "suppose to burn" and grow. :tem

[THM Nindo]

Guys... stop being stupid.
Amaterasu is Amaterasu.

There's no difference between on or the other...

If you really want to stand by and say that what hit Killerbee was stronger than what hit Madara you can just say that "Emo-Amaterasu" is stronger than "Amaterasu" :p:p

[Essence]

I bet everyone has noticed this, but the way to extinguish amarterasu is quite simple really...you just have to use the other eye to extinguish it. I hadn't realized this until recently. Furthermore, the second link shows that Itachi did the same with Sasuke.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/07/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/07/

So basically, Itachi knew all along as to how the fire is subdued...I say this because some people still seem to believe otherwise. I think the title "new power" referred to the new power acquired by Sasuke...and not an altogether new power.

I wonder what Sasuke wants to try out though (as he stated in the latest chapter).
I was already aware of that fact, by using the alternate eye you can stop the flame but the more important question is for those who Doesn't have amaterasu, how can extinguish it without a seal.