View Full Version : Let's talk about Lilinette
THM Nindo
June 05, 2009, 12:07 PM
Hey, guys.
I've been wondering why Kubo didn't kill Lilenette already.
I mean, all other Fraccion are dead, right?
So, why did he made her survive?
What do you think?
I can see a few possibilty :
1. She's really strong and is just playing around.
Not likely seeing how Ukitake is really teasing her.
2. She will serve as a trigger for Stark.
She might be injured or killed and this might have Stark taking the battle seriously
3. She will make a "Nel" or herself and go on the Good side.
They seem to picture her as a brat, just like they were doing with Nel.
I think it's not impossible that she might stay alive and change side...
Even Stark doesn't look like he's all into Aizen's plan.
But, will SS let a arrancar live? They aren't like Ichigo... they would most likely prefer to kill them all.
Note :
Don't you think Lilenette looks just like Midna from Twilight Princess!?!
I don't know if it was intended or not, but they are very alike.
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2008/092/4/8/Lilenette_by_I_IiM.jpghttp://inutiliteimprobable.hautetfort.com/images/medium_midna.jpg
Xanathos
June 05, 2009, 12:20 PM
I think shes there just for comic relief, like Omaeda. BTW its Kubo not Kishi.:P
Josear XIII
June 05, 2009, 12:24 PM
First post i hope. [edit: THE HELL WITH THAT XDDDD]
Well first of all i really freaking like Lilenette she is so damn cute with that cheeky attitude of her, dammit you gotta love the girl.
I never thought she would be a strong character, in fact when she was about to fight ukitake, it was like "she, a no one (sowy lilenette :3), overpowering a character who is so well known and everyone knows that is one of the top captains... NO WAY IN HELL.
i just think she is there to play the role of a character who really complain about starks way of being, at least she is the only one who complains. So i dont think she will serve for any of the 3 options you gave. Just to make stark fun, because otherwise he will look so damn boring XD
kkck
June 05, 2009, 12:26 PM
I still think barragan is going to use her time manipulating abilities and make a woman out of lilinet. I guess you could call that "pull of a nel".
THM Nindo
June 05, 2009, 01:24 PM
Here's a new theory :
Lilinet must be a VL arrancar in larva state.
She is to weak for being a naturall arrancar, she is even weaker than a Gillian, so why would bother Aizen in making such a disgrace, it is a total waste of time and energy.
I mantain my theory that Lilinet and Wonderweis are Both VL arrancar, but because of the huge reiatsu a VL posses, even Aizen has trouble to arrancarize them, so they initially begun in this larva state (wonderweis is obvious) and in some moment, perhaps when they're about to be killed, or maybe with some other external stimulation like stark's death, they will regain all their mighty power.
And then the one who will cry will be Ukitake.
Lilenette is one of my favorite arrancar, so I would really like this theory to come true!!!
Lilenette FTW!!
zerocooldx
June 05, 2009, 01:30 PM
Heres a crazy thought maybe Lilenette is the reason that Stark is in Aizen's army. I mean for all we know Aizen could have saved or further developed Lilenette as an Arrancar and in return Stark pledged his loyalty to Aizen. Because i mean come on, shes the only Fraccion that we have seen that really can't put up a fight and the Arancar we have seen don't really make "friends". And i find a lot of irony in Stark governing over loneliness, yet he cares for Lilenette an awful lot. Not only that but Stark doesn't really seem to care about fighting, any of the other Espada, or even Aizen. He just does as hes told and always looks out for Lilenette. Now i know this may raise questions about Stark possibly being a Vasto Lorde and what not, but i would at least assume that Aizen has one of them in his army. And with all the mystery and irony surrounding Stark he may be the one, just maybe. And Lilenette could be the link that connects Stark with Aizen, it would certainly make for an interesting plot twist.
Exodi
June 05, 2009, 06:35 PM
She's still alive because Ukitake (and Kubo) aren't planning on killing her (at least I don't think so), and she's comic relief. That is all.
Darek Khort
June 06, 2009, 01:04 AM
I reckon she's just there to act as a trigger for Stark. Afterall Stark's theme is loneliness - I really doubt he'd be able to kill everyone to make it so only one SS is alive; thus it has to be the reverse. He will be the last Espada left, and his companion Lilinette will die making him all alone against SS (in terms of hollows).
At this rate however I cannot see Lilinette dying because I simply can't imagine who in SS at Fake Karakura Town has a personality capable of killing someone as goofy as she is. In that case she'll probably have to turn into a Nel or something similar (in terms of size and seriousness when 'transformed back to normal form') for anyone to take her seriously and actually fight her properly.
...either that or she trips and impales herself on her sword.
Josear XIII
June 06, 2009, 08:10 AM
I reckon she's just there to act as a trigger for Stark. Afterall Stark's theme is loneliness - I really doubt he'd be able to kill everyone to make it so only one SS is alive; thus it has to be the reverse. He will be the last Espada left, and his companion Lilinette will die making him all alone against SS (in terms of hollows).
At this rate however I cannot see Lilinette dying because I simply can't imagine who in SS at Fake Karakura Town has a personality capable of killing someone as goofy as she is. In that case she'll probably have to turn into a Nel or something similar (in terms of size and seriousness when 'transformed back to normal form') for anyone to take her seriously and actually fight her properly.
...either that or she trips and impales herself on her sword.
Soi fon can pretty much deal the killing blow on her if you let her.
digitaldude
June 06, 2009, 08:17 AM
Soi fon can pretty much deal the killing blow on her if you let her.
The only captain that would kill her, just like that would be mayuri, because his a bastard, I really like her character, she`s way better comic relief than omaeda and no I don`t want her to turn into a big breasted warrior, since that`s pretty much describes all bleach women, she should stick with being an arrancar loli.
zerocooldx
June 06, 2009, 12:35 PM
Well its only a matter of time before some pissed off Vizards join the fight. And i'm pretty sure they will take out everyone that gets in their way. Hollow or Shinigami, so we will have to wait and see what Lilinette does then.
digitaldude
June 06, 2009, 04:30 PM
Well its only a matter of time before some pissed off Vizards join the fight. And i'm pretty sure they will take out everyone that gets in their way. Hollow or Shinigami, so we will have to wait and see what Lilinette does then.
I predict she will cry................. and hitsugaya freezes her tears. Oh the tragedy.
Chaoswind
June 06, 2009, 06:17 PM
O.O
So lolinete is a vastrolord? good "Theory".
>_>
<_<
Dude I need a few of those pills you are taking...
nevertheless, it would be bad for SS to kill such a "harmless" character, and I know Kubo only kills Bad guys and as far as I am concerned she ain't one yet.
Onomatopoeia
June 06, 2009, 06:57 PM
I think shes there just for comic relief, like Omaeda. BTW its Kubo not Kishi.:P
Thread should have ended right here.
Seriously Omaeda isn't dead yet is he? No, in fact he's doing about as well or better then Lilinete.
Does that mean Omaeda is going to pull out Bankai ? No.
THM Nindo
June 06, 2009, 07:42 PM
Thread should have ended right here.
Seriously Omaeda isn't dead yet is he? No, in fact he's doing about as well or better then Lilinete.
Does that mean Omaeda is going to pull out Bankai ? No.
No, I think there's more than meet the eyes.
And if she's there for comic relief, I doubt that they will kill her.
She's just a kid, so, she won't die.
The only way for her to die, is to "transform" in something more evil-looking. :p
So, if she doesn't die, what happen to her?
Onomatopoeia
June 06, 2009, 10:26 PM
No, I think there's more than meet the eyes.
And if she's there for comic relief, I doubt that they will kill her.
She's just a kid, so, she won't die.
The only way for her to die, is to "transform" in something more evil-looking. :p
So, if she doesn't die, what happen to her?
Halibel's Fraccion were basicly their for comic relief during the HM arc. They died(I think).
Why do we assume that there's more then meets the eye?
THM Nindo
June 06, 2009, 10:56 PM
Halibel's Fraccion were basicly their for comic relief during the HM arc. They died(I think).
Why do we assume that there's more then meets the eye?
It's just because I'm 99% sure that she won't die.
She looks too young, so unless she become more evil (ex: by releasing, or if she's a VL), I don't think Kubo will have a young looking arrancar die.
But, then, if she doesn't die, she will have another purpose.
Just like we all know that Grimmjow will come back at some point, because he's still alive.
Now, the question is, if she lives, what will be her purpose?
Will she do a Nel and go with the SS and Ichigo?
Or, on the opposite, is she more evil than we think, and she will release into a more powerful form (someone even brought out that she might be a VL in a "larva" state, like Wonderweiss)?
The simple fact that she's the last Fraccion alive tells me that she will have a bigger role than the other fraccions.
juice88
June 06, 2009, 11:51 PM
she is definately more important than a regular fraccion
just like we all wondered why yammi survived longer than other espada. its the same with her she is the last known fraccion so she has a purpose even if she is only used to show something with stark it will still be important
Aizen Sama
June 07, 2009, 12:51 AM
lillinette is comic relief. End of discussion.
THM Nindo
June 07, 2009, 09:04 AM
lillinette is comic relief. End of discussion.
Okay, thanks for sharing your opinion... but I don't see why we should end the discussion right now.
Tell me, do you think she will die?
Being a comic relief and being so young, I doubt that she will die.
So what will happen of her, if she doesn't die?
Forever_Melody
June 07, 2009, 10:17 AM
Lilinette shares probably the most "affectionate"(for lack of a better word) relationship with her Espada. If anything, you wouldn't think Lilinette is really Stark's subordinate, but like his little sister or something.
Yes she's certainly comic relief, but then again so is Ukitake at the moment. Does that mean Ukitake doesn't have a larger role? Heck Kyouraku also usually serves as comic relief for SS >.> Even Omaeda, which is a purely comic relief character, had his own fight and is getting screen time.
It's interesting that Ukitake notes she's immature though. Do arrancars mature in that sense? I mean, unless she was really a very lowly hollow when she got arrancar-ized, is Ukitake implying that she doesn't have access/control to her full power yet?
The idea of the VL regression seems nice indeed although I'd wonder why Wonderweiss goes through mental regression while Lilinette seems, for all intents and purposes, quite mentally capable.
Josear XIII
June 07, 2009, 11:19 AM
Do you think, that they will be shippers of Lilenette-Ukitake,or worst XD i think the hentai-doujinshi drawers are on their move. XDD
Is a useless comment but its about lLilly so.... XD have fun
THM Nindo
June 07, 2009, 01:24 PM
Do you think, that they will be shippers of Lilenette-Ukitake,or worst XD i think the hentai-doujinshi drawers are on their move. XDD
Is a useless comment but its about lLilly so.... XD have fun
Well, she's a loli, but in fact she's probably over 100 years :tem
But, if there's to be shippers with Lilinette, I don't see why it would be with Ukitake... wouldn't it make more sense to be Stark-Lilinette?
There relation seems already a bit strange (though it's probably more like Old brother / lil sister).
I think that this relation will be important later on.
I think that one will trigger the other (either Lilenette in danger will trigger Stark release, or Stark in danger will trigger Lilinette release, or her awakening as a VL).
obamamania
June 07, 2009, 11:12 PM
She serves a purpose, there's almost no doubt about that. The only way I see her dying or getting hurt is through some kind of crossfire or collateral damage that, like most of you are speculating, will cause Stark to get serious. It would have made sense for Hitsu's ultimate attack that he can't control to have something to do with this since Stark specifically reacted to it, but since that opportunity got passed by, something else needs to happen. But in terms of her being more than meets the eye...that seems a bit less likely. And for all of you that keep trying to dismiss the topic by acting like you're masters of predicting plots, just stop because it's so much more likely that she serves some sort of role, no matter how small. We have the right to use evidence and other kinds of events to speculate, comparing her to Oemeda who's role has already been played out is not fair.
Cyven
June 08, 2009, 12:14 PM
I too don't think she'll die (or rather, I don't want her to. Guess I'm already a Stark/Lili shipper). Rather I wouldn't mind the following scenario:
Stark VS Shunsui drags on and Uki VS Lili will end halfway through either because Lili will be too exhausted to keep fighting, or Uki somehow convinces her to just sit down and watch their respective allies. Meanwhile Aizen & co enter battle after Halle & Barry get killed, cue long fight sequences, vaizard appearances, maybe even a Grimmjow-assisted breakout of Las Noches after Yammy gets thrashed
anyway 4 years from now (real life) all that should probably be wrapped up, with Lilinette and Stark being the only survivors on Aizen's side (not counting Grim because he basically betrayed Aizen to fight Ichigo) and Stark simply deciding to abandon the fight and retreating to Las Noches with Lili, as he's only really fighting because he's under Aizen's command.
kkck
June 08, 2009, 12:17 PM
I want ukitake to use kido to trap lilinet in an energy ball and to start just bouncing her around(after that barragan can make a woman out of lilinet)....
Judau Ashta
June 09, 2009, 01:37 PM
Maybe she'll do fusion with Stark (or something like that) and become the strongest arrancar/espada. There has to be a reason why a loner like Stark would take in any fraccion, and also the weakest of them all.
zerocooldx
June 09, 2009, 01:39 PM
Maybe she'll do fusion with Stark (or something like that) and become the strongest arrancar/espada. There has to be a reason why a loner like Stark would take in any fraccion, and also the weakest of them all.
If Kubo takes a page out of the DBZ handbook, ah la Kishimoto, then... :oh
Ozehro
June 10, 2009, 12:17 AM
Okay, thanks for sharing your opinion... but I don't see why we should end the discussion right now.
Tell me, do you think she will die?
Being a comic relief and being so young, I doubt that she will die.
So what will happen of her, if she doesn't die?
yeah I think she will die. she will get her sword back and release
in to a monster. and noone cares when a monster dies.
*sniff*goes back to watch monster.inc. *sniff*
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