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thefreak
July 20, 2009, 02:41 PM
Kabuto's goal of killing Naruto and Sasuke doesn't mean shit to the rest of the world. Madara threatens the whole planet, Kabuto threatens two people. See what I'm getting at?

But if madara dies before Kabuto/Oro(returend) the story will not end.
As long as Naruto and sasuke are in danger of being killed by Oro/Kabuto the story will not end.

This is the Naruto show It needs Naruto and Sasuke to be alive to go on.
And rather than world peace Sasuke is Naruto's primary goal.

Thabor
July 20, 2009, 02:45 PM
I think to control that power at once it requires a sacrifice, which he is tricking Sasuke into being.

That would tie in pretty well to his griping about Nagato using resurrection for someone other than himself.

ibi
July 20, 2009, 02:47 PM
thx bean i was bout to say the same fing

its like how are we supposed to understand ur sarcasm with text
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But if madara dies before Kabuto/Oro(returend) the story will not end.
As long as Naruto and sasuke are in danger of being killed by Oro/Kabuto the story will not end.

This is the Naruto show It needs Naruto and Sasuke to be alive to go on.
And rather than world peace Sasuke is Naruto's primary goal.

they do live in a ninja world
they are constantly in danger
sincerely i dont fink naruto will ever end
sumtimes i wish, i cud just go into the future and just read all of the mangas to the end
and then watch all of the animes aswell

unlike stuff like death note and code geass, naruto does drag on

dflynchimp
July 20, 2009, 02:48 PM
thx bean i was bout to say the same fing

its like how are we supposed to understand that ur sarcasm with text


Obviously by reading his facial expressions :sarc

ibi
July 20, 2009, 02:49 PM
Well although she is still hot, she isn't a young damsel either now is she :p. So as she gets older it probably bothers her more and more, its a fear she has that she is single and may always be single, so as a result she resorts to all those things I listed before.

i see wat u mean

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 02:49 PM
Yeah a bit late.. That is part of the problem with trying to look things up.

I'd guess that he obtains some ultimate power by using EMS in conjunction with having all the Bijuu collected. Thus the falling out over distribution of them in the first place. That is certainly one area where you could imagine seeing some DBZ influence. They are bound to have some special purpose or use beyond just having them.

It seems like Madara wanted to push Sasuke into getting EMS so presumably he believes that he can steal the power even if someone else does the heavy lifting. I think he leans more towards manipulation. It also seems pretty likely that Madara softened up Itachi prior to the Sasuke fight.

I don't think EMS has to do with the bijuus.

But again why does he needs sasuke for?..the guy can phase thru everything, and teleport almost everywhere, how can you defeat somebody like that?

Scratch that, How the hell did madara knew where to find sasuke?

Could the eye of the moon plan means his real body is on the moon? and his just pulling a nagato on us, but from the moon?

adel123456789
July 20, 2009, 02:51 PM
No....:p

Killing naruto means killing the world hope.

kabutomaru aiming to be the anti-christ!!! LMAO

not if naruto dies to bring world peac

nat
July 20, 2009, 02:52 PM
@ laughing, or he needs some poor bastard to be the human sacrifice.
sacrifice with a lot of chakra it seems. Feed the moon god or something.

Like Shinigami pact except the one who dies will be Sauce, not Mads.

adel123456789
July 20, 2009, 02:52 PM
I don't think EMS has to do with the bijuus.

But again why does he needs sasuke for?..the guy can phase thru everything, and teleport almost everywhere, how can you defeat somebody like that?

Scratch that, How the hell did madara knew where to find sasuke?

Could the eye of the moon plan means his real body is on the moon? and his just pulling a nagato on us, but from the moon?

kishi made alot of BS in the past 8 months so its poseble.

jdw
July 20, 2009, 02:53 PM
not if naruto dies to bring world peac

Let sasuke die for peace instead, didn't suigetsu say Sasuke was bringing peace?

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 02:53 PM
@ laughing, or he needs some poor bastard to be the human sacrifice.
sacrifice with a lot of chakra it seems. Feed the moon god or something

doesn't kisame has more chakra than anybody in akatsuki? :p

Logic
July 20, 2009, 02:53 PM
Drop dead danzou! Naruto is the representative of konoha. Raikage is sold to naruto deal. In summit naruto leads as danzou. Danzou arrives late, huu, torune gets ownd by taka in a flash. As sasuke goes for killing him, naruto stops the dash. Battle naru-danzou-sasu-kaka begins!!!!

ibi
July 20, 2009, 02:54 PM
heres a theory
wat if madara wanted sasuke to take itachis eyes to have EMS
then take sasukes eyes
to have sum double EMS
with all of teh different sharingans mixed up into one eye
but that'll never happen
naruto needs a villain that he can actually defeat

thefreak
July 20, 2009, 02:54 PM
but sage mode has a limit
and naruto needs a back up plan
plus one of the wind nature abilities is to make swords/knives stonger
why not use it then...
also wat if he duznt fight oponents that are that strong, he cant just use sage mode and merk them off
i fink a weapon that he uses occasionally is in order

What about a claw made up from that chakra material.?
Not that big. but a glove cum claw. blades extending over a each finger.
More suitable for a fox's claw. has more character.


I really hope/wish naruto and sasuke coming face to face in next chapter.
Its been too long for them having faced each other.

nat
July 20, 2009, 02:55 PM
doesn't kisame has more chakra than anybody in akatsuki? :p

but for the sake of consistency, Kishi will use Sasuke again.
you know, Oro, deidara, Itachi, Danzou, Naruto they all wanted Sasuke. Using Kisame will break the rule.

Even if he is more appropriate.

jdw
July 20, 2009, 02:55 PM
doesn't kisame has more chakra than anybody in akatsuki? :p

I think Pain said Kisame has a lot even for akatsuki. maybe he said most, i dunno

adel123456789
July 20, 2009, 02:57 PM
Let sasuke die for peace instead, didn't suigetsu say Sasuke was bringing peace?

he said that before sasuke knew about his brother and joind an evil orgenization. sasuke has changed all his planes ecept for rvenge.

Weapon_X
July 20, 2009, 02:58 PM
I don't think EMS has to do with the bijuus.

But again why does he needs sasuke for?..the guy can phase thru everything, and teleport almost everywhere, how can you defeat somebody like that?

Scratch that, How the hell did madara knew where to find sasuke?

Could the eye of the moon plan means his real body is on the moon? and his just pulling a nagato on us, but from the moon?

Remember, in this manga it's always the young surpassing the old so eventually when Sasuke is older he would surpass Madara and his piers. Madara probably knows himself that Sasuke will surpass him one day and be a major threat towards him.

Madara even said Sasuke has a greater potential then Itachi so why not use him for his gain? Madara is the type to sit back and relax while his pawns do all the work. Only when he really needs to take action or slap some bitch up, then he would rise from his throne and start kicking ass.

Also his "real" body can't be in the moon, Madara is Madara and that is his real body. He can make people phase through himself as well as he can stop physical attacks, meaning that his body is physical.

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-404/page012.html
If you look at the second panel, he stopped Suigetsu's sword attack with 1 hand. If that's not his real body and he is able to do that then... he must be superman if apparently he has a real body hidden somewhere. :tem

Also he plans to sync Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo leter on. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-453/page017.html LOL Poor Sasuke, people just want to use him all the time for the wrong reasons. :p No wonder he hates most people. LOL

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 03:01 PM
but for the sake of consistency, Kishi will use Sasuke again.
you know, Oro, deidara, Itachi, Danzou, Naruto they all wanted Sasuke. Using Kisame will break the rule.

Even if he is more appropriate.

:facepalm LMAO....consistency!!! LMAO

Got to keep the same trend right!!lol

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:06 PM
Remember, in this manga it's always the young surpassing the old so eventually when Sasuke is older he would surpass Madara and his piers. Madara probably knows himself that Sasuke will surpass him one day and be a major threat towards him.

Madara even said Sasuke has a greater potential then Itachi

i think he just sed that to smooth talk sasuke
u dont persuade sum1 with just one speech
u have to tell them slowly and make sum nice comments like that one to get wat u want

plus i fink madara is on a whole diffeerent lvl to sasuke
even if the yung always surpass the old
madara is sumfin big to surpass
lol
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What about a claw made up from that chakra material.?
Not that big. but a glove cum claw. blades extending over a each finger.
More suitable for a fox's claw. has more character.


I really hope/wish naruto and sasuke coming face to face in next chapter.
Its been too long for them having faced each other.

that is a rely gud idea
i actually think thats the best anyone has come up wid so far

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 03:07 PM
Remember, in this manga it's always the young surpassing the old so eventually when Sasuke is older he would surpass Madara and his piers. Madara probably knows himself that Sasuke will surpass him one day and be a major threat towards him.

Madara even said Sasuke has a greater potential then Itachi so why not use him for his gain? Madara is the type to sit back and relax while his pawns do all the work. Only when he really needs to take action or slap some bitch up, then he would rise from his throne and start kicking ass.

Also his "real" body can't be in the moon, Madara is Madara and that is his real body. He can make people phase through himself as well as he can stop physical attacks, meaning that his body is physical.

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-404/page012.html
If you look at the second panel, he stopped Suigetsu's sword attack with 1 hand. If that's not his real body and he is able to do that then... he must be superman if apparently he has a real body hidden somewhere. :tem

Also he plans to sync Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo leter on. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-453/page017.html LOL Poor Sasuke, people just want to use him all the time for the wrong reasons. :p No wonder he hates most people. LOL

He can't concentrate and make that shit hard? :p

I remember a show long ago called mutant X, one of the main guys would go invulnerable by holding his breath.

Why can't madara do that?

thefreak
July 20, 2009, 03:07 PM
Does anyone think that the madara's current technique of teleportation is just an upgrade to yellow flash copied when he fought minato?

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 03:08 PM
Does anyone think that the madara's current technique of teleportation is just an upgrade to yellow flash copied when he fought minato?

It could be. Or could be a copy of hanzou's Hiraishin. :eyeroll

Weapon_X
July 20, 2009, 03:11 PM
i think he just sed that to smooth talk sasuke
u dont persuade sum1 with just one speech
u have to tell them slowly and make sum nice comments like that one to get wat u want

plus i fink madara is on a whole diffeerent lvl to sasuke
even if the yung always surpass the old
madara is sumfin big to surpass
lol


Smooth talk Sasuke? Last time I checked Madara was talking to Pain about it, not Sasuke: http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-363/page017.html

"Hie eyes will surpass Itachi's eyes"


It could be. Or could be a copy of hanzou's Hiraishin. :eyeroll

Hanzou's Hiraishin? :p Dude he didn't use Hiraishin, he used Shunshin no Jutsu which any mediorce Ninja can do. :p Unless your post was sarcasm then don't read this. :p

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:11 PM
Does anyone think that the madara's current technique of teleportation is just an upgrade to yellow flash copied when he fought minato?

no more like an adaptation of kakashis MS
but with himself, and an actual destination
:)

Thabor
July 20, 2009, 03:11 PM
I don't think EMS has to do with the bijuus.

But again why does he needs sasuke for?..the guy can phase thru everything, and teleport almost everywhere, how can you defeat somebody like that?

Scratch that, How the hell did madara knew where to find sasuke?

Could the eye of the moon plan means his real body is on the moon? and his just pulling a nagato on us, but from the moon?


I dunno.. I think you get into just wild hypothetical stuff at that point.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/10/

Between the name Akatsuki, Sharingan, and Eye of the Moon.. I imagine the full moon turning red, becoming a giant sharingan, and being used as a massive genjutsu to mind control anyone who looks at it.

But that would just be another device without a motive.. I don't really understand Madara's motivation. If it were simply revenge he has had ample time to make other major moves, unless he is limited by celestial alignments or some other oddball restriction...

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:12 PM
Smooth talk Sasuke? Last time I checked Madara was talking to Pain about it, not Sasuke: http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-363/page017.html

"Hie eyes will surpass Itachi's eyes"

my bad

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 03:13 PM
yo dudes what is zetsu is the real leader dum dum dum, i mean he reports everything to madara who in turn also reports all to him, or maybe they goal is the same we dont really know anything about zetsu not even his fightin style, but he seem way to close to madara to be like any other memeber

i thought madara said that he need the tailed beasts to regenerte his ems or maybe that too was a lie dum dumdum

and the so called truth about itachi what is it, cause what he tolds us could be true dum dum dum

and then you have the power itachi gave naruto could that possible be the truth f itachi the real reason why kiniha has become once again a viable target for madara dum dum dum
dum dum dum
dum dum dum
dum dum da

Young Aizen
July 20, 2009, 03:14 PM
i think he just sed that to smooth talk sasuke
u dont persuade sum1 with just one speech
u have to tell them slowly and make sum nice comments like that one to get wat u want

plus i fink madara is on a whole diffeerent lvl to sasuke
even if the yung always surpass the old
madara is sumfin big to surpass
lol

nah how could he smooth talk sasuke if he wasnt even saying that to sasuke lol sasuke wasnt even there...i believe madara was speaking to pein when he said sasuke would surpass itachi....

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:19 PM
nah how could he smooth talk sasuke if he wasnt even saying that to sasuke lol sasuke wasnt even there...i believe madara was speaking to pein when he said sasuke would surpass itachi....

yh ive alrdy sed my bad
gimme a break
hhahha

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 03:21 PM
Hanzou's Hiraishin? :p Dude he didn't use Hiraishin, he used Shunshin no Jutsu which any mediorce Ninja can do. :p Unless your post was sarcasm then don't read this. :p

:facepalmMan...you jumped on it...:p

I was hoping somebody would go, hanzou used hiraishin???!!! lol

Weapon_X
July 20, 2009, 03:23 PM
:facepalmMan...you jumped on it...:p

I was hoping somebody would go, hanzou used hiraishin???!!! lol

NO WAY! WHAT! Hanzou used Hiraishin? :o:o Dude show me where he used Hiraishin! ARGH! This is like ...shizzle ma nizzle!

There, how about that? lol:facepalm

Young Aizen
July 20, 2009, 03:23 PM
yh ive alrdy sed my bad
gimme a break
hhahha

lol ohh i see....lol i was in the act of replyin when you said that

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 03:24 PM
NO WAY! WHAT! Hanzou used Hiraishin? :o:o Dude show me where he used Hiraishin! ARGH! This is like ...shizzle ma nizzle!

There, how about that? lol:facepalm

Phew much better!!..LMAO

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:24 PM
lol ohh i see....lol i was in the act of replyin when you said that

no problem

Konoha Hurricane
July 20, 2009, 03:25 PM
A lot of people, from what I've read anyway, seems to have absolutely hated the fact that Orochimaru re-emerged in some form through Kabuto.

I don't know why this was ever in doubt, but it was always known that Orochimaru was going to play a significant part in this manga and if anyone harbored any misconceptions that he was done in by Sasuke via such pitiful means or finished for good by Itachi, then people aren't really paying attention.

Itachi, as cool a character as he is, wasn't going to be the final undoing of Orochimaru either, but I at least accept the fact that it was Itachi that got the opportunity to deal the finishing blow to the "old Orochimaru" but the fact remains that, in form or another, Orochimaru will be making a return.

My opinion on how utterly adamant the chorus appears to be against Oro making a comeback, despite the fact that he's one of the most amazing villains in the manga with one of the most incredible presences period, is because Orochimaru staying out of the picture serves as some perceived notch in the belt or vindication of Sasuke's power and the supposed omnipotence of the Sharingan that would surely be slapped down in some significant way with a return of Orochimaru and some don't want that because as much as some people claim to hate or be tired of the Sharingan, they can't get enough of the thing and hope it doesn't receive the humbling it so greatly deserves.

It's one of the most important aspects of this manga's story, the Sharingan, but too many use it to discredit the abilities of so many incredible shinobi that never had a sharingan as if there is absolutely no way to beat it and this or that person having it instantly puts them above a shinobi who does not.

thefreak
July 20, 2009, 03:26 PM
Can we get back to the 457 predictions part? this aint the hangout thread.

Logic
July 20, 2009, 03:27 PM
heres a theory
wat if madara wanted sasuke to take itachis eyes to have EMS
then take sasukes eyes
to have sum double EMS
with all of teh different sharingans mixed up into one eye
but that'll never happen
naruto needs a villain that he can actually defeat

one thing is for sure. Madara is trying to do something totaly new. He is probably inventing something of a greater evil. I don't think that he'll steal eyes. He probably wants to use every powerful shinobi as his tool, except zetsu for his plan to succeed.

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 03:29 PM
NO WAY! WHAT! Hanzou used Hiraishin? :o:o Dude show me where he used Hiraishin! ARGH! This is like ...shizzle ma nizzle!

There, how about that? lol:facepalm

how is it like shizzle my nizzle what connection would thay possible have together.
one is a ninja in a manga possibly using a technique that we all know he didnt use or all assum cause we dont know what techniques he used, and the second is a phrase mad up by the godfather of rap explain the similarities please

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:29 PM
@ the freak, wen it gets two like 5 pages into the discussion it becomes the hangout area hahahhahaha

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 03:31 PM
one thing is for sure. Madara is trying to do something totaly new. He is probably inventing something of a greater evil. I don't think that he'll steal eyes. He probably wants to use every powerful shinobi as his tool, except zetsu for his plan to succeed.

i am telling you zetu is the man to watch he is treate specialy he has no partner unless you count himself and he never address madara as if he is the boss he seems to know that madara is tobi the whole time and they both plan shit together there is something about zetsu zetsu zetsu zetsu lol

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:31 PM
how is it like shizzle my nizzle what connection would thay possible have together.
one is a ninja in a manga possibly using a technique that we all know he didnt use or all assum cause we dont know what techniques he used, and the second is a phrase mad up by the godfather of rap explain the similarities please

they were being sarcastic
they were having a joke from before

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 03:35 PM
i think this is all predictions because naruto is missing fro a week so this is all viable things that could happen, we have no idea what is going to happen in the next chapter.

except for sasuke inflitrating the summit thanks to beast master juggo sasuke trying to kill mofos at the summit naruto arriving at the summit and stopping him,
or possible sasuke infiltrates summit thanks to beast mater juggi the other slowly make their way to the summit, we get more information about the samurai people from the lord vader of the samurai land, and we see either mizukage of raikage as comic relief oh an team naruto follows suit
[hr]

they were being sarcastic
they were having a joke from before

ohh my bad i apologize with asterisks

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:37 PM
wait the naruto manga has skipped this week
stop chatting shit
if they are ther pissing me off

Belisar
July 20, 2009, 03:38 PM
Kabuto's best ability it seemed was his ability to heal, but Oro had whitesnake healing anyway, so maybe that is why?
no. orochimaru wanted a bloodline limit body. kabuto hasn't one.

ps: kabuhina all the way! http://i30.tinypic.com/2ns9gs0.gif

Logic
July 20, 2009, 03:42 PM
i am telling you zetu is the man to watch he is treate specialy he has no partner unless you count himself and he never address madara as if he is the boss he seems to know that madara is tobi the whole time and they both plan shit together there is something about zetsu zetsu zetsu zetsu lol

zetsu is very suspicious. Probably he is an alternative of the 1st hokage, made/found by madara. I believe zetsu has the power to control the plants like the 1st.

thefreak
July 20, 2009, 03:44 PM
wait the naruto manga has skipped this week
stop chatting shit
if they are ther pissing me off

Manga was early this week. so its nearly a week he is saying.

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:45 PM
Manga was early this week. so its nearly a week he is saying.

ahh thank god i nerly had a hert attak
haha how ironic i got a pic of death note as my signature
hahahahahah
anyways thx thefreak
that rely made me feel better
hahaah

Belisar
July 20, 2009, 03:46 PM
It could be. Or could be a copy of hanzou's Hiraishin. :eyeroll
actually hanzou used hiraishin!

http://www9.picfront.org/picture/QCQet1iDp8/img/hiraishin.jpg (http://picfront.de/d/QCQet1iDp8/hiraishin.jpg)

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:49 PM
u missed one in the sky

laughing@you
July 20, 2009, 03:50 PM
actually hanzou used hiraishin!

http://www9.picfront.org/picture/QCQet1iDp8/img/hiraishin.jpg (http://picfront.de/d/QCQet1iDp8/hiraishin.jpg)

:facepalm.....let the discussion begin!!!!

(You see weapon_X i did it)!!!

EDIT: Holy shit.....i didn't noticed but one of those guys head came off!!! cool!!

Belisar
July 20, 2009, 03:50 PM
u missed one in the sky
you mean the chopped off head?

Weapon_X
July 20, 2009, 03:51 PM
u missed one in the sky

That's not the 4th's head, that's the Iwagakure's nin who's head got chopped off by the 4th. LOL It looks similar with the hair, but it ain't. :p


:facepalm.....let the discussion begin!!!!

(You see weapon_X i did it)!!!

Yeah I know. -_-; Wow, look at Hanzou go. He sure is on a role when he uses his Hiraishin, isn't he? He is unstoppable, man, if only Hanzou was alive he could teach Naruto his Amegakure mist lightning flash technique. :p

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:51 PM
btw ive been havign a conversation with a friend
and were lukin for sum gud anime to watch
ive watched naruto, bleach, code geass, death note, tengou tenge.

and i wanted to ask u lot
is "hellsing" gud?

Belisar
July 20, 2009, 03:52 PM
btw ive been havign a conversation with a friend
and were lukin for sum gud anime to watch
ive watched naruto, bleach, code geass, death note, tengou tenge.

and i wanted to ask u lot
is "hellsing" gud?
yes. and it's definitely off topic.

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:53 PM
you mean the chopped off head?

wtf u mean thats a head hahahaha
now thats sumfing u need to put in a naruto anime

sounds like sumfin off afro samurai

thefreak
July 20, 2009, 03:53 PM
no. orochimaru wanted a bloodline limit body. kabuto hasn't one.

ps: kabuhina all the way! http://i30.tinypic.com/2ns9gs0.gif

Damn whats wrong with u ppl?
why is everyone trying to knot hinata with everyone else than naruto?

there was this guy who posted fanpics of hinata with everyone. except kakashi and Naruto I think. Even with Hidan and Kakuzu.

this is Really sad time for NaruHina fans.:mad

ibi
July 20, 2009, 03:55 PM
yes. and it's definitely off topic.

thx

thefreak
July 20, 2009, 03:55 PM
actually hanzou used hiraishin!

http://www9.picfront.org/picture/QCQet1iDp8/img/hiraishin.jpg (http://picfront.de/d/QCQet1iDp8/hiraishin.jpg)

Hey from which episode is that snap from?

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 03:56 PM
whats kabuhina i think when you go to make couples you should go is the girl totatily in love with someone that she would risk her life for that person, ohh ha might be a clue to who you link her with, or you could put her with the super villians assistant s'all good anyway

ibi
July 20, 2009, 04:04 PM
inabit ppl
im out

Belisar
July 20, 2009, 04:07 PM
Hey from which episode is that snap from?
fan made artwork

adel123456789
July 20, 2009, 04:18 PM
Damn whats wrong with u ppl?
why is everyone trying to knot hinata with everyone else than naruto?
there was this guy who posted fanpics of hinata with everyone. except kakashi and Naruto I think. Even with Hidan and Kakuzu.

this is Really sad time for NaruHina fans.:mad

so that she wont end with naruto. so they make crack parings like sasuhina.

chess4
July 20, 2009, 04:48 PM
is there going to be a chapter this week and then a break next week or is it the other way around? could someone please let me know

◆ T.D.A ◆
July 20, 2009, 04:49 PM
Actually there is no break next week anymore.

nat
July 20, 2009, 04:51 PM
how come?
they announced it before from legit sources.

◆ T.D.A ◆
July 20, 2009, 04:55 PM
Yeah then the legit source slapped them back in the face and said "My bad, actually there is no break. " :tem

nat
July 20, 2009, 04:56 PM
lol, our legit sources were owned.
*moment of silence*.

Nja was drunk maybe

◆ T.D.A ◆
July 20, 2009, 04:58 PM
Nja only posts chapter spoilers, not TOC related spoilers. Though Kishi hasn't taken a break except for when the whole WSJ is taking a break for ages now.

arslan
July 20, 2009, 05:01 PM
Well, it's a good thing that he hasn't. It can be rather frustrating when authors leave us hanging for an extra week when the story is at a rather interesting point.

jdw
July 20, 2009, 05:03 PM
i dont usually wish for people to be wrong but I was hoping that sources screwed the pooch on 458 release :)

gold349
July 20, 2009, 05:19 PM
I hate breaks, glad it was not to be one.

Anyone else not surprised why Madara isn't himself taking this opportunity to do anything at the summit, all the leaders are meeting so why isn't he making an attempt?...he was shown to warp carrying Kirabi a couple more can't be too much?. Warps in with Kisame, Zetsu and Takka a quick surprise attack, catch the kages unawares, an attack out of the blue...warps back out job done?, surely could be pulled off, no?.

Rufus Chamberlain
July 20, 2009, 06:11 PM
I hate breaks, glad it was not to be one.

Anyone else not surprised why Madara isn't himself taking this opportunity to do anything at the summit, all the leaders are meeting so why isn't he making an attempt?....

because it's not the point of his plan. his plan isn't to kill the kages. it's to send sasuke to kill them. the whole point is that sasuke is the one to do it. i get the feeling that it doesnt really matter whether he succeeds or not, only that he trys it. why? who knows? possibly so that the only person sasuke can turn to once he starts becoming out classed and out numbered is Madara.

Madara is the type of guy who, if there is a mission that ensures success or guarantees defeat he would do it himself. so in actuality, the attempt on the kages lives' isn't imperative to his plan and is possibly just to test sasuke's strength.

Arrogance
July 20, 2009, 06:17 PM
As well, I think Madara likes being hidden and doesn't want to be out in the open just yet. If he was to attack the Kage's it would be well known then that he's alive and around up to a bunch of Shenanigans and I don't think he wants to happen. He seems to have a plan all set up and when the time is right and the plan is well underway then he would come out of hiding, thats if he even wants to then.

HPTR Fangirl
July 20, 2009, 06:19 PM
Guys, I'm sorry! Just read T.D.A's post right now.


There is no break. So we will have chapter next week.

Anyone wants to throw rotten tomatoes and eggs at me, feel free to do. I feel and look so much like a fool right now:mad:facepalm
[hr]

I'm hoping for Sennin Mode Naruto vs the Samurai. Now that would be some battle to see. :p

chess4
July 20, 2009, 06:27 PM
Guys, I'm sorry! Just read T.D.A's post right now.


There is no break. So we will have chapter next week.

Anyone wants to throw rotten tomatoes and eggs at me, feel free to do. I feel and look so much like a fool right now:mad:facepalm
<hr noshade size="1">

I'm hoping for Sennin Mode Naruto vs the Samurai. Now that would be some battle to see. :p

honest mistake yo...............its all good

but naruto fighting the samurai would be a bit hostile for them and could be seen as the leaf attacking there country

Rufus Chamberlain
July 20, 2009, 06:29 PM
honest mistake yo...............its all good

but naruto fighting the samurai would be a bit hostile for them and could be seen as the leaf attacking there country

how so? seems to me that recently every nin from every country seems to ignore their village and act upon their own agendas.

nat
July 20, 2009, 06:32 PM
Guys, I'm sorry! Just read T.D.A's post right now.


There is no break. So we will have chapter next week.

Anyone wants to throw rotten tomatoes and eggs at me, feel free to do. I feel and look so much like a fool right now:mad:facepalm
<hr noshade size="1">

I'm hoping for Sennin Mode Naruto vs the Samurai. Now that would be some battle to see. :p

you're no fool Sonia, don't feel bad.
Spoiler business is very fickle and everyone messes up. from nonsense translation to re-posts. stuff happens.

HPTR Fangirl
July 20, 2009, 06:35 PM
honest mistake yo...............its all good

but naruto fighting the samurai would be a bit hostile for them and could be seen as the leaf attacking there country

No its just wishful thinking. Though WSJ previews said that Sennin Mode will make a return. So I hoping / wishing if there was a Sennin Mode Naruto Vs Samurai.

You know what, this might be a good thread for Konohagakure Arena section. I'm going to create it :amuse

◆ T.D.A ◆
July 20, 2009, 06:35 PM
No one was actually wrong, except the guy on 2ch who later corrected his post. I'm, expecting an epic chapter so I might not read spoilers.

Rufus Chamberlain
July 20, 2009, 06:41 PM
No one was actually wrong, except the guy on 2ch who later corrected his post. I'm, expecting an epic chapter so I might not read spoilers.


guaranteed one more chapter of build up and running around. this isnt one piece after all ;)

HPTR Fangirl
July 20, 2009, 06:42 PM
you're no fool Sonia, don't feel bad.
Spoiler business is very fickle and everyone messes up. from nonsense translation to re-posts. stuff happens.

I'll have to correct the information at my own naruto community at LJ though. But I did learn something, always cross your fingers, and double check the spoiler stuff.

But I'm glad that we are going to have a chapter next week. :tem At least I can stop my preparation for the agonizing week.
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I can't wait for tomorrow for the spoilers though:tem

Belisar
July 20, 2009, 06:44 PM
Actually there is no break next week anymore.
kewl, tda talked with kishi and persuaded him not to take the break. tda, you're the man!

:leepose

◆ T.D.A ◆
July 20, 2009, 06:45 PM
guaranteed one more chapter of build up and running around. this isnt one piece after all ;)

That read kinda funny considering what was happening in One Piece for the past few months.

Previews are mostly BS, so I don't think Naruto will get into Sennin mode, and I don't think he'll face Sasuke so quickly, maybe Gaara and Sasuke instead.

Weapon_X
July 20, 2009, 06:47 PM
That read kinda funny considering what was happening in One Piece for the past few months.

Previews are mostly BS, so I don't think Naruto will get into Sennin mode, and I don't think he'll face Sasuke so quickly, maybe Gaara and Sasuke instead.

Raikage V Sasuke, no?

HPTR Fangirl
July 20, 2009, 06:54 PM
That read kinda funny considering what was happening in One Piece for the past few months.

Previews are mostly BS, so I don't think Naruto will get into Sennin mode, and I don't think he'll face Sasuke so quickly, maybe Gaara and Sasuke instead.

Yep, previews whether or not they are misleading actually depends on the chapters, since there are times they do come true, but still they are fun to read. :tem
I actually always wait to see when Vered posts the previews at NF. But I do think before the Kage summit ends (somewhere between midway towards the end) Sasuke and Naruto will meet, whether or not if Sasuke vs Naruto Part II occurs or not. ;)

Yondaime Uzumaki
July 20, 2009, 06:54 PM
That move that Danzou did seemed like a wind jutsu. Wouldn't it be nice if Naruto ended up being trained by Danzou after he saves Danzou's life? Naruto has yet to really have some brutal training, in the traditional sense. Danzou is obviously pretty elite, it would be reminiscent of a Gohan and Piccolo situation(sorry for the DBZ reference). Naruto's gonna need a new trainer and who better than Danzou? Maybe Danzou can redeem himself a little bit, training Naruto will make him look better in the eyes of the jounins and will restrict Naruto's movements. Above all, you would think that Danzou would jump at the chance to try to convert Naruto to his way of thinking, though it would probably end up being the opposite and Naruto converts Danzou. It just makes no sense to have an element like wind and completely waste your potential. I'm hoping Naruto will get a bad ass teacher like Danzou.

HPTR Fangirl
July 20, 2009, 07:01 PM
That move that Danzou did seemed like a wind jutsu. Wouldn't it be nice if Naruto ended up being trained by Danzou after he saves Danzou's life? Naruto has yet to really have some brutal training, in the traditional sense. Danzou is obviously pretty elite, it would be reminiscent of a Gohan and Piccolo situation(sorry for the DBZ reference). Naruto's gonna need a new trainer and who better than Danzou? Maybe Danzou can redeem himself a little bit, training Naruto will make him look better in the eyes of the jounins and will restrict Naruto's movements. Above all, you would think that Danzou would jump at the chance to try to convert Naruto to his way of thinking, though it would probably end up being the opposite and Naruto converts Danzou. It just makes no sense to have an element like wind and completely waste your potential. I'm hoping Naruto will get a bad ass teacher like Danzou.

I'm a bit doubtful that Danzou will give Naruto training lessons. The guy practically detests Naruto, teaching him personally might something else. He will possibly use his Black-Ops / Root members to train him rather than him personally.

Yondaime Uzumaki
July 20, 2009, 07:04 PM
I'm a bit doubtful that Danzou will give Naruto training lessons. The guy practically detests Naruto, teaching him personally might something else. He will possibly use his Black-Ops / Root members to train him rather than him personally.

After they just let Naruto leave the village despite Danzou's orders? I doubt it. Danzou wouldn't trust anyone else to keep an eye on Naruto after that.

jdw
July 20, 2009, 07:05 PM
Guys, I'm sorry! Just read T.D.A's post right now.


There is no break. So we will have chapter next week.

Anyone wants to throw rotten tomatoes and eggs at me, feel free to do. I feel and look so much like a fool right now:mad:facepalm
<hr noshade size="1">

I'm hoping for Sennin Mode Naruto vs the Samurai. Now that would be some battle to see. :p

Don't feel bad. You are going out of your way to help. If anyone throws an egg at you just grab me and you can use me to block it :p like Danzou used that Hannya Shinobi :)

dbgohan08
July 20, 2009, 07:11 PM
there's still a break between 458 & 459 correct?

jdw
July 20, 2009, 07:19 PM
Man, it is going to be amazing when Kakashi sees Naruto go into sage mode. He is going to be like WTF?? I wouldn't be surprised if he says something like "Sage mode??!!! Well now there is no doubt that Naruto has surpassed me now. At least I can be here to support him." I wonder if he will use sharingan and comment on the power of the chakra or something to that effect.

Yamato will probably just look like he did when Naruto went 8-tails.

mangakey
July 20, 2009, 07:31 PM
Man, it is going to be amazing when Kakashi sees Naruto go into sage mode. He is going to be like WTF?? I wouldn't be surprised if he says something like "Sage mode??!!! Well now there is no doubt that Naruto has surpassed me now. At least I can be here to support him." I wonder if he will use sharingan and comment on the power of the chakra or something to that effect.

Yamato will probably just look like he did when Naruto went 8-tails.

I'm not sure they will be that surprised, considering that both of them knew Naruto was training with the frogs for 2 and a half years. Kakashi was seen talking to Jiraya all the time, so I doubt he doesn't know what sage chakra is. Even Shikamaru's dad knows what sage mode is, so they know what to expect out of Naruto now that hes a sage. Although i'm not saying they know what sage chakra in detail, but i suspect they know what sage mode is. Even Pain knew of sage mode, although not the specifics of sage chakra. Its Jiraya's fame as being a strong Sanin that has propagated that information.

But i'm hoping that Naruto will show off some new moves too. But i suspect he already went all out on Pain.

Boagrious
July 20, 2009, 07:32 PM
Man, it is going to be amazing when Kakashi sees Naruto go into sage mode. He is going to be like WTF?? I wouldn't be surprised if he says something like "Sage mode??!!! Well now there is no doubt that Naruto has surpassed me now. At least I can be here to support him." I wonder if he will use sharingan and comment on the power of the chakra or something to that effect.

Yamato will probably just look like he did when Naruto went 8-tails.

So... If Naruto learned his lesson.. I hope he left at least two KB left at Konoha, for Sage mode purposes. :tem

jdw
July 20, 2009, 07:51 PM
I'm not sure they will be that surprised, considering that both of them knew Naruto was training with the frogs for 2 and a half years. Kakashi was seen talking to Jiraya all the time, so I doubt he doesn't know what sage chakra is. Even Shikamaru's dad knows what sage mode is, so they know what to expect out of Naruto now that hes a sage. Although i'm not saying they know what sage chakra in detail, but i suspect they know what sage mode is. Even Pain knew of sage mode, although not the specifics of sage chakra. Its Jiraya's fame as being a strong Sanin that has propagated that information.

But i'm hoping that Naruto will show off some new moves too. But i suspect he already went all out on Pain.

He surely knows it exists, but we have no way of knowing if Kakashi has seen sage mode in action. It isn't like Jiraiya was his sensei or like jiraiya hung out in leaf running missions with them.

Delbi
July 20, 2009, 07:54 PM
He surely knows it exists, but we have no way of knowing if Kakashi has seen sage mode in action. It isn't like Jiraiya was his sensei or like jiraiya hung out in leaf running missions with them.

Well Jiraiya was in Konoha a lot. If you remeber, he tells a pretty young Kakashi about Tsuande's bust size in a flashback.

Yondaime Uzumaki
July 20, 2009, 08:17 PM
Has anyone thought of a reason why Madara would want Danzou dead? On the surface, it seems like Sasuke is the one that decided to kill Danzou but Madara has been the one motivating Sasuke to do it. Now he wants Sasuke to go to the meeting of the kages to kill him. Danzou has to be some type of threat to Madara for Madara to want to kill him instead of all of the other kages. Also, to be on Madara's hitlist, Danzou must be one of the "good guy" or "anti-hero" types. How will Kishi explain this?

Boagrious
July 20, 2009, 08:33 PM
Has anyone thought of a reason why Madara would want Danzou dead? On the surface, it seems like Sasuke is the one that decided to kill Danzou but Madara has been the one motivating Sasuke to do it. Now he wants Sasuke to go to the meeting of the kages to kill him. Danzou has to be some type of threat to Madara for Madara to want to kill him instead of all of the other kages. Also, to be on Madara's hitlist, Danzou must be one of the "good guy" or "anti-hero" types. How will Kishi explain this?

Danzou is more than what he seems to be, we all know that. I think Kishi is developing him slowly and soon we will see him go all out hopefully:D

Golom
July 20, 2009, 08:36 PM
Has anyone thought of a reason why Madara would want Danzou dead? On the surface, it seems like Sasuke is the one that decided to kill Danzou but Madara has been the one motivating Sasuke to do it. Now he wants Sasuke to go to the meeting of the kages to kill him. Danzou has to be some type of threat to Madara for Madara to want to kill him instead of all of the other kages. Also, to be on Madara's hitlist, Danzou must be one of the "good guy" or "anti-hero" types. How will Kishi explain this?

Danzou is the First Hokage. He got his Sharigan from Madara's brother. It also explains why Madara is trying to take all of the Bijuus. Its like going over to your arch nemisis's house and then steal his dog.

mr.danly
July 20, 2009, 09:42 PM
Danzou is the First Hokage. He got his Sharigan from Madara's brother. It also explains why Madara is trying to take all of the Bijuus. Its like going over to your arch nemisis's house and then steal his dog.

...................... there are so many holes in this theory that I truly hope that you posted this as a joke.

Delbi
July 20, 2009, 09:49 PM
Danzou is more than what he seems to be, we all know that. I think Kishi is developing him slowly and soon we will see him go all out hopefully:D

I still think Danzou is Madara student. It makes sense in so many ways, at least in my head. :tem

llamapie
July 20, 2009, 09:53 PM
I still think Danzou is Madara student. It makes sense in so many ways, at least in my head. :tem

Hmm I like this idea. :P

redred
July 20, 2009, 09:57 PM
Danzou is the First Hokage. He got his Sharigan from Madara's brother. It also explains why Madara is trying to take all of the Bijuus. Its like going over to your arch nemisis's house and then steal his dog.

lmao that made my day
good to know that theres no pause in chapter next week.
now this whole get to the summit thing will seem to go by
a lot faster

Yondaime Uzumaki
July 20, 2009, 10:21 PM
theories in naruto are pointless!!!

Much like your comment.


I still think Danzou is Madara student. It makes sense in so many ways, at least in my head. :tem
Why would Madara want his student dead?

kurausu
July 20, 2009, 10:27 PM
Looks like everyone can get a Sharingan today.. Thats sad. I was wondering if Danzou was Madara in fact.. Because that Danzou and Madara have the sharingan in the right eye. We never see the left eye of Madara, so we cannot say it's a sharingan too or not... But it looks pointless now.. Now I start to think that Danzou stole the right eye from Obito. Kakashi has the left eye.. And Danzou the right one... Let me go.. I'm sleeping over keyboard now..... Look! This is my face hitting the keys randomly: poihjasghikl.

good night everyone.. I wish to read next chapter... farewell

Delbi
July 20, 2009, 10:35 PM
Why would Madara want his student dead?

Well maybe since Madara betrayed his village, Danzou hated him for it and they mght have a history. Also, there's no telling who's Sharigan Danzou has, so perhaps Madara doesn't like the idea of people stealing bloodlines.

Also, Danzou is the Hokage, and Madara hate's Konoha.

Nicholas.Sama
July 20, 2009, 10:36 PM
akatsuki wants full scale war
someone interrupting the meeting might make peace a little harder to maintain

jdw
July 20, 2009, 10:38 PM
Looks like everyone can get a Sharingan today.. Thats sad. I was wondering if Danzou was Madara in fact.. Because that Danzou and Madara have the sharingan in the right eye. We never see the left eye of Madara, so we cannot say it's a sharingan too or not... But it looks pointless now.. Now I start to think that Danzou stole the right eye from Obito. Kakashi has the left eye.. And Danzou the right one... Let me go.. I'm sleeping over keyboard now..... Look! This is my face hitting the keys randomly: poihjasghikl.

good night everyone.. I wish to read next chapter... farewell

Get your sharingan while they are hot! Priced to move!

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/10133398.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=449109E24F92386B9C0D09EFCAA82D985C4940990DC260D0

Slowly I am coming to accept the sharingan carnival that is Naruto. But, I am happy that there are a bunch of interesting new characters to explore. I am impressed with Danzou so far and have pretty high hopes for him. Also, Naruto and Kakashi are back together again so you know we are going to see some good fights. We might also get to see Yamato go all out as well.

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 10:41 PM
who cares about madara he is cool and immoral and all but we got him pinned down he has sharingan ms and ems he is bad really bad and he want sasuke like all grown men do in this manga weird, but my concerns lie with zetsu, he is the real bad ass and i stick to it.

danzou seem to be a puppet to me, his whole life he wanted to be hokge i want to be hokage, duded sucked and couldn't be hokage. i like the danzou is a student of madara idea a little but that is only because of hi philosophies, other than that its a meh for me.

i think kabuto is also going to be a bad ass, he is kakashi level in thinking strategies and now he had oromanboy lover has a part of him dudes becoming bad ass since he is training. i want him to appear in the kage summit like wassup now sasuke hopefully with a sharingan repellent, dum mofo eyes.
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how is anko tracking him btw

Delbi
July 20, 2009, 10:42 PM
Slowly I am coming to accept the sharingan carnival that is Naruto. But, I am happy that there are a bunch of interesting new characters to explore. I am impressed with Danzou so far and have pretty high hopes for him. Also, Naruto and Kakashi are back together again so you know we are going to see some good fights. We might also get to see Yamato go all out as well.

I think Kishi would have benefitted from having at least one more Uchiha alive that Itachi, Sasuke, and Madara. Like, I always thought Minato's female Teammate was an Uchiha, and we have yet to see a female Sharigan user in action.

People say the Sharigan is overused, but it's really only that Sasuke has taken up like half the manga.

patedecarne
July 20, 2009, 10:43 PM
Still don't read the chapter, but judging from the comments, seems a bunch of characters are going to meet in the next chapter. If this is true, then something epic is about to happen, right in the middle of the summit.
This remember those movies, with the right persons, in the right time and in the right place, everything converging to something of epic proportions. Let' just see if it turns to be true.

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 10:51 PM
People say the Sharigan is overused, but it's really only that Sasuke has taken up like half the manga.

kakashi also uses it quite a bit alot yup he uses it
i dont think it itself is over used but peoples need for it is over exemplified.
i think the sharingan is supposed to represent power, and peoples lust for it is supposed to show how the lust for power can blind you metaphorically and in the manga physically

Delbi
July 20, 2009, 10:52 PM
Still don't read the chapter, but judging from the comments, seems a bunch of characters are going to meet in the next chapter. If this is true, then something epic is about to happen, right in the middle of the summit.
This remember those movies, with the right persons, in the right time and in the right place, everything converging to something of epic proportions. Let' just see if it turns to be true.

Sadly, I don't think anything epic is going to happen until chapter 458, if not 459. Kishi tends to strech these kindof things out.

Makayo
July 20, 2009, 10:53 PM
Still don't read the chapter, but judging from the comments, seems a bunch of characters are going to meet in the next chapter. If this is true, then something epic is about to happen, right in the middle of the summit.
This remember those movies, with the right persons, in the right time and in the right place, everything converging to something of epic proportions. Let' just see if it turns to be true.

i agree kabumaru is going to come and start lobbing off heads left and right jus kidding
i think the next chapter is also going to be a setup chapter nothing to interesting more people arrive and possibly some action from sasuke and the snowtroopers

Delbi
July 20, 2009, 10:53 PM
kakashi also uses it quite a bit alot yup he uses it
i dont think it itself is over used but peoples need for it is over exemplified.
i think the sharingan is supposed to represent power, and peoples lust for it is supposed to show how the lust for power can blind you metaphorically and in the manga physically

True, but Kakashi is waay cooler than Sasuke haha.

HPTR Fangirl
July 20, 2009, 11:12 PM
After they just let Naruto leave the village despite Danzou's orders? I doubt it. Danzou wouldn't trust anyone else to keep an eye on Naruto after that.

They didn't intentionally let Naruto leave the village. They were just sucked into Naruto's Oiroke no jutsu's genjutsu by Kakashi. But yeah, if Danzou learns as to how Naruto escaped Root surveillance, I don't think he's gonna trust anyone, but he's also not going to guard 24/7 by himself. The closest I can think is that he is going to use his own personal genjutsu users (if there is any) to guard him. (That's a big speculation though).
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God I'm so jealous of those two Root members, who are having sweet dreams / nightmares. At least they got to see Naruto newer Oiroke jutsu.:mad
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there's still a break between 458 & 459 correct?
I don't think so!:)

xaither
July 20, 2009, 11:39 PM
can somone tell me whats an Oiroke no jutsu's, is it like a marage

Strider's♥Death
July 20, 2009, 11:41 PM
can somone tell me whats an Oiroke no jutsu's, is it like a marage

:jawdrop

jimm120
July 20, 2009, 11:46 PM
I think it might be the Sexy No Jutsu from the start of the manga, but for some reason, the manga translators now want to call it "oiroke no jutsu".

Well, that is what I think it is.

danzouismadara
July 20, 2009, 11:47 PM
:jawdrop

lol i was so shocked my mouth couldnt move to have my jaw dropped:facepalm

KnuckleheadedNinja
July 20, 2009, 11:48 PM
can somone tell me whats an Oiroke no jutsu's, is it like a marage

I can't believe a Naruto reader doesn't know Naruto infamous jutsu. Oiroke no jutsu is sexy no jutsu, this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/245/16/ (that's Konohamaru doing it)

Montai
July 21, 2009, 12:50 AM
I can't believe a Naruto reader doesn't know Naruto infamous jutsu. Oiroke no jutsu is sexy no jutsu, this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/245/16/ (that's Konohamaru doing it)

Maybe because it's spelled the japanese way. I think he knows what sexy jutsu is. You guys shouldn't expect everyone to know what you know.

mangakey
July 21, 2009, 12:56 AM
Has anyone thought of a reason why Madara would want Danzou dead? On the surface, it seems like Sasuke is the one that decided to kill Danzou but Madara has been the one motivating Sasuke to do it. Now he wants Sasuke to go to the meeting of the kages to kill him. Danzou has to be some type of threat to Madara for Madara to want to kill him instead of all of the other kages. Also, to be on Madara's hitlist, Danzou must be one of the "good guy" or "anti-hero" types. How will Kishi explain this?

Naruto isn't like Harry Potter. There isn't a perfectly good or bad side. And not all antagonists are on the same side. If anything, everyone and country has their own agenda. No reason for two people trying to gain power necessarily have to work together.

Boagrious
July 21, 2009, 01:39 AM
I just thought about this as another possibility to Danzou's Sharingan:

You know how danzou said he worked in something with orochimaru, maybe before developing the soul transfer jutsu he practiced transferring the sharingan into another person and it dint work that well, hence danzou's deterioration of hes left side of the body, then after seeing how succesful rin was with kakashis eye he captured her extracted the info and then killed her.

adbanginwar
July 21, 2009, 01:42 AM
Maybe because it's spelled the japanese way. I think he knows what sexy jutsu is. You guys shouldn't expect everyone to know what you know.

yes, but these words were used like millions of times in anime. if you dont watch anime it was used ample times in manga itself.
this dude might have started to read naruto after 200-300 chapters.

samsiufan
July 21, 2009, 01:44 AM
Naruto isn't like Harry Potter. There isn't a perfectly good or bad side. And not all antagonists are on the same side. If anything, everyone and country has their own agenda. No reason for two people trying to gain power necessarily have to work together.

added to that Madara's head and ego are so big, there is only room for one dictator in the Narutoverse...:p

Yondaime Uzumaki
July 21, 2009, 02:02 AM
Naruto isn't like Harry Potter. There isn't a perfectly good or bad side. And not all antagonists are on the same side. If anything, everyone and country has their own agenda. No reason for two people trying to gain power necessarily have to work together.

Really???
Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura weren't reminiscent of Harry's friends? Naruto wasn't an orphan? Naruto's parents(at least his father) didn't die sacrificing himself for Naruto against the main villian of the story? Naruto doesn't have a memento of that sacrifice(seal vs scar)? Naruto's father figure teacher wasn't killed, leaving the responsibility of taking out the villian to Naruto? I could do this all day. Even Snape playing the bad guy until the end and sacrificing himself to save Draco reminds me of Itachi. Drawing parallels betweens Naruto and Harry Potter is easier than drawing parallels between DBZ, and Kishi was inspired by DBZ when he created Naruto.

And who said anything about being "perfectly" good or bad? I said "anti-hero", which is not the traditional definition of a hero. An anti-hero does what needs to be done by any means, but his intentions are genuine.

naruto78
July 21, 2009, 02:34 AM
I was reading the chapters when sasuke meets tobi/madara and I realized that the arm amateratsu burns when tobi tries to show his face is the same damaged arm danzou has. Maybe the two are linked ?

xaither
July 21, 2009, 02:39 AM
I can't believe a Naruto reader doesn't know Naruto infamous jutsu. Oiroke no jutsu is sexy no jutsu, this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/245/16/ (that's Konohamaru doing it)

LOL its because i always hear him say sexy no jutsu when i read the manga i just did not know that oiroke was the japaneese name for it lol

nianiote
July 21, 2009, 02:52 AM
I was reading the chapters when sasuke meets tobi/madara and I realized that the arm amateratsu burns when tobi tries to show his face is the same damaged arm danzou has. Maybe the two are linked ?
The chronology doesn't fit.

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-284/page009.html
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-397/page003.html

Zibi234
July 21, 2009, 04:14 AM
ehhh like allways...... there is a confirmed spoiler on 2ch from Nja... and we have no moderator online.... so no thread opened..... ehhh

Sidesw1pe
July 21, 2009, 04:30 AM
I just thought about this as another possibility to Danzou's Sharingan:

You know how danzou said he worked in something with orochimaru, maybe before developing the soul transfer jutsu he practiced transferring the sharingan into another person and it dint work that well, hence danzou's deterioration of hes left side of the body, then after seeing how succesful rin was with kakashis eye he captured her extracted the info and then killed her.

Rin's medical capabilities were most probably less than Orochimaru's. And also Rin had most probably never transplanted a Sharingan before, so for her first attempt the procedure went remarkably well. Assuming this is true, the process of transplanting a Sharingan is probably the same as that of a regular eye. Kakashi & Danzou are different people however, & it could be that Obito's eye was a perfect match for Kakashi, whereas if your theory is correct, perhaps the eye received by Danzou was not very compatible... who knows. But regardless of what Danzou said about his eye, his Sharingan seems to work pretty good imo.

My personal opinion is that he stole the eye from one of the murdered Uchiha clansmen. Danzou is in a high enough position to have arranged such a thing in secret, & the transplant process seems simple & quick & most importantly proven to work.

ibi
July 21, 2009, 04:48 AM
i realy want to see karin and naruto to meet

cuz u kno how karin luvs off sasukes chakra, cuz she can sense chakra like if it has its own personality

i wana see her sense the foxes chakra and shit herself

that wud be so funny!!!!

Nimloth
July 21, 2009, 04:51 AM
ehhh like allways...... there is a confirmed spoiler on 2ch from Nja... and we have no moderator online.... so no thread opened..... ehhh

Thread has been openified! ;)

Zibi234
July 21, 2009, 05:06 AM
Well I can say that the second added part of Nja... is not chapter releated ^^ Nja simply says about the cover which looks somehow cool... its shiny or something like that...


What I can geit it its that: team samui reaches Raikage.... naruto enters there bows and beggs for raikage to forgive sasuke... raikage says that ninja shouldnt bow so rushy....... I guess Yamato talks too soemthing related to hyuuga clan [mostly about the past incident with hiashi in that hinata kidnapping scene]..... scene is changed to Sasuke and Zetsu.... Sasuke plans to attack Danzou after the meeting when he will be returning... Zetsu will show him who is Danzou...... Sai couldnt wait and he invited sakura to follow him (decoy of naruto)... and its end with 5shadow apperaing..... so the meeting is starting...

Well the first line is about move information.... naruto and kakshi... anyway this is not accurate to put it into picture thread ^^ dont want to make people confused... but this is like a very rought summary...


It doesnt look so much exciting... and hmmm I wonder if naruto failed to convince raikage :P I guess naruto needs to face sasuke and learn from him that killerbee was not captured by him....

edit:

あれ見忘れちまったのかな…スマソ
なんか映画の情報がのってたな~って位しか見てなかったな><
螺旋丸が効かないみたいなこと書いてあった

this 3rd added part is not spoiler chapter related.... Nja says simply that he readed on the movie info page something that "resistance to rasengan" so I guess that trailer white girl skill makes rasengan not working..... it has nothing to do with chapter itself ^^ I saw that part on 2ch maybe 30minutes ago but since it had notihng to do with chapter I didnt posted it ^^

sabret00the
July 21, 2009, 05:08 AM
Sounds like the plot is finally starting to advance again.

ibi
July 21, 2009, 05:11 AM
but wats this bout resistance to rasengan???
[hr]
i realy want to see karin and naruto to meet

cuz u kno how karin luvs off sasukes chakra, cuz she can sense chakra like if it has its own personality

i wana see her sense the foxes chakra and shit herself

that wud be so funny!!!!

Zibi234
July 21, 2009, 05:15 AM
but wats this bout resistance to rasengan???

Like I mentioned.... this part is "not" related to chapter itself...... to put it simple this week chapter has a page with some promo info about next shippuden movie..... and like nja said there is written that "resistance to rasengan"..... if you saw trailers... than you kinda have a understaning of what is this about ^^

So "resistance to rasengan" has nothing to do with manga chapter itself....

This is a effect of posting everything from 2ch that nja posted without earlier looking if its even chapter related ^^ it makes people little confused

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 05:19 AM
but wats this bout resistance to rasengan???
<hr noshade size="1">
i realy want to see karin and naruto to meet

cuz u kno how karin luvs off sasukes chakra, cuz she can sense chakra like if it has its own personality

i wana see her sense the foxes chakra and shit herself

that wud be so funny!!!!

Even though it's probably correct anyway, that flashback of Karin falling inlove with Sasuke's chakra was anime only.

It could be the truth but until we see it in the Manga, don't count on it.

adel123456789
July 21, 2009, 05:21 AM
so sakura is back or they are on the way to naruto. and what is it with the decoy

narengan
July 21, 2009, 05:23 AM
not that awesome chapter, but i like to see the raikage, he's cool ;) though the summary is really short. perhaps there'll be something more.

but 458 or 459 seem to become exciting chapters, plotwise - but sasuke attacking danzou after the meeting will most likely be in a whole more chapters. no fighting for now i guess

juUnior
July 21, 2009, 05:23 AM
Sounds like superb chapter to me, and finally at the end 5 kages meet, man <3<3<3 I love this manga :wtf

btw. I hope, that color cover will be with 5 kages <3 <and eventually Naruto put somewhere xd>


but sasuke attacking danzou after the meeting will most likely be in a whole more chapters. no fighting for now i guess
I really like that way - I thought Sasuke would cut half the meeting, and it would be .. not cool, and now probably he will attack Danzou AFTER the meeting, which means, we will have the whole conversation of the Kage Summit! hell yeah! xDXD

Zibi234
July 21, 2009, 05:27 AM
so sakura is back or they are on the way to naruto. and what is it with the decoy

If I remember sai's mission was to go to Danzou... so Sakura will have to go to see him too.... about that decoy thing... no idea but I guess if Sai goes the other way they wont meet with naruto....... so if Sakura is away from village she wont know that naruto is not in the village.... since she could start to ask people around where is naruto... and that would alarm anbu and stuff ^^

this is what I think... better take her away in order to cover naruto's disaperance from village.... kakashi took out only 2anbu's but what if there were more... anbu would be alarmed and naruto would be in trouble later..

adel123456789
July 21, 2009, 05:27 AM
not that awesome chapter, but i like to see the raikage, he's cool ;) though the summary is really short. perhaps there'll be something more.

but 458 or 459 seem to become exciting chapters, plotwise - but sasuke attacking danzou after the meeting will most likely be in a whole more chapters. no fighting for now i guess

sasuke wantd to wwait untel the danzou returns, or the meeting ends. does that mean he is afrid of teh samurai, or the kages, or wants to kill him in secret

Kusachu
July 21, 2009, 05:28 AM
Could it be? Sakura? Will she do anything cool? Or remain suck?!?

adel123456789
July 21, 2009, 05:30 AM
If I remember sai's mission was to go to Danzou... so Sakura will have to go to see him too.... about that decoy thing... no idea but I guess if Sai goes the other way they wont meet with naruto....... so if Sakura is away from village she wont know that naruto is not in the village.... since she could start to ask people around where is naruto... and that would alarm anbu and stuff ^^

this is what I think... better take her away in order to cover naruto's disaperance from village.... kakashi took out only 2anbu's but what if there were more... anbu would be alarmed and naruto would be in trouble later..

oh, you mean he is trying to get her away from naruto so she wont falow him and ruen everything. thanx, sakura returning to the plot makes it uncool.
[hr]

Could it be? Sakura? Will she do anything cool? Or remain suck?!?

aperently sai will make her go with him on a mission so she wont get in teh way of naruto. so yah, she isnt gonna do anything and suck.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 05:32 AM
We might get so see some interesting dialogue between Sai & Sakura though.

narengan
July 21, 2009, 05:33 AM
sasuke wantd to wwait untel the danzou returns, or the meeting ends. does that mean he is afrid of teh samurai, or the kages, or wants to kill him in secret

i think he's smart enough to avoid such a seppuku move.

eternalshiva
July 21, 2009, 05:39 AM
Oh shit~ Hyuuga is being mentioned. TIEM 4 NARUHINA!? I can only hope this brings back his memory of Hinata nearly KILLING herself to delay Pain like a freight train and huh, I'm surprised this is how it gets brought back in.

I want to see him acknowledge her good fucking damn it! I'm at the point where it needs to happen or I'm gonna throw a tantrum like the german unreal tournament kid!

*escape key flies off keyboard*

narengan
July 21, 2009, 05:41 AM
ゼツとサスケでどいつがダンゾウなのか確認しに行くが
Sasuke, wanting to know just who Danzou is, goes with Zetsu to confirm his identity

ゼツにあいつがダンゾウだよ って言われた瞬間にサスケ目が写輪眼へ
but the moment that Zetsu tells him, "He's Danzou," there's a close-up of Sasuke's eyes with the Sharingan


ups ;) perhaps sasuke is not that patient, eh.
but nonetheless he likes to brag with his eyes so perhaps it's only show ;)

adel123456789
July 21, 2009, 05:49 AM
We might get so see some interesting dialogue between Sai & Sakura though.

if they reveal information about something it would be good. though i think sakura might make sai say something about naruto's plan
[hr]

Oh shit~ Hyuuga is being mentioned. TIEM 4 NARUHINA!? I can only hope this brings back his memory of Hinata nearly KILLING herself to delay Pain like a freight train and huh, I'm surprised this is how it gets brought back in.

I want to see him acknowledge her good fucking damn it! I'm at the point where it needs to happen or I'm gonna throw a tantrum like the german unreal tournament kid!

*escape key flies off keyboard*

pleas dont be like that. i mean i agree, (TIEM 4 NARUHINA!?). yah the hyuuga's are being metioned but something about what happend to neji's father and reveng not being good and blahblah but its just that and not naruhina unfortunatly.

so naruto is beggin the raikage:
naruto: pleas forgive him
raikage: no
naruto: prety pleas.......
raikage: ok

Smokes
July 21, 2009, 05:54 AM
if they reveal information about something it would be good. though i think sakura might make sai say something about naruto's plan

I hope Sai asks her if it's really o.k. for Naruto to sacrifice himself for Sasuke? That's the question I would like her to answer. How happy would she be if Naruto let someone kill him to save Sasuke?

I guess after that it would be Sai's turn to make a promise to bring him back. 'Cause Kakashi sure as hell ain't gonna be the one.

sabret00the
July 21, 2009, 05:55 AM
Sounds like the chapter at least infers the confirmation that Danzou is Madara.

adel123456789
July 21, 2009, 05:58 AM
just saw the new translation:
sai: i cant set here and do nothing.

does that he is gonna poll a hinata on us and die while protecting naruto or sakura and saying i love you to on of them. i dont understand why not just go eith them in the first place. maybe they will meet sasuke sence he isnt gonna kill danzou right now, and then sai dies protecting sakura. god, i hate sasuke.
[hr]

I hope Sai asks her if it's really o.k. for Naruto to sacrifice himself for Sasuke? That's the question I would like her to answer. How happy would she be if Naruto let someone kill him to save Sasuke?

I guess after that it would be Sai's turn to make a promise to bring him back. 'Cause Kakashi sure as hell ain't gonna be the one.

if he is gonna ask her something, it would be something like: would you sacrefice yourself for sasuke. and she will say yes, and sai will remeber what naruto said and did and have charecter development, then he dies.

i cant help but think that sai is gonna be the star of this arc soon.

ibi
July 21, 2009, 06:03 AM
I hope Sai asks her if it's really o.k. for Naruto to sacrifice himself for Sasuke? That's the question I would like her to answer. How happy would she be if Naruto let someone kill him to save Sasuke?

I guess after that it would be Sai's turn to make a promise to bring him back. 'Cause Kakashi sure as hell ain't gonna be the one.

i swer down i wud luv dat
i wud make sakura luk like a ryt bich
i hate wen she goes all lvy duvy over sasuke
hahaha

Gats
July 21, 2009, 06:03 AM
Sounds like the chapter at least infers the confirmation that Danzou is Madara.

Where do you see it ? :blink

Duc :D
July 21, 2009, 06:07 AM
Great the hyuga incident is mentioned maybe kishi is not as bad in rerolling old plot stuff ^^

I want Sai to be the hero of the arc too well his best fight was in the latest shippuuden movie so i want him so show his Elite of the elite anbu skills

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 06:10 AM
A mention of Hyuuga and the Hinata fanboys are already running off with all these fantasies in mind.

omegafan00
July 21, 2009, 06:12 AM
"Sounds like the chapter at least infers the confirmation that Danzou is Madara."


Where do you see it ? :blink

I think that he's mentioning the "automatic sharingan triggering" that Itachi put on Sasuke. When Sasuke sees Madara, his Sharingan will automatically trigger Amaterasu to burn Madara. The point is that when Sasuke sees Danzo, his Sharingan were suddenly on, so he was referring to that.

I think it's possible that Sasuke's sharingan was automatically triggered, but it's also possible that Sasuke is just getting his killerinstinct on and wants to kill Danzo.

Just my 2 cents.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 06:15 AM
I think people Jump the gun and run with things WAY TOO QUICKLY.

It's Sasuke activating Sharingan out of anger... where does it say "ITACHI MANGEKYOU IS TRIGGERED WHEN HE SEES DANZOU!"


No, it doesn't...

God, where's the common sense?

xdanx
July 21, 2009, 06:21 AM
Spanish Translation for VASSiLi's english text.

Es de parte de Nja. En la portada está Naruto y en el lomo están Naruto y Kakashi

No pude ver información de la película o el interior del mismo, pero hay algunas tarjetas ilustradas -creo- adjuntas.

Samui y su equipo se reunen con el Raikage, y -siguiendoles- Naruto y co. van a apelar con el Raikage

Naruto se pone de rodillas por propia voluntad (!) con su cabeza apuntando al suelo y diciendo, "Por favor, perdone a Sasuke"

Raikage: "Un shinobi no debería doblegarse tan facilmente"

Con el Raikage rechazando conceder el perdon, Yamato interviene en la conversación

Yamato: "Nuestro lado tiene su propio asunto que tratar con usted; el preocupante asunto de Hyuuga Hiashi y que hacer con ello", y continua con ese tema.

*No ir como enemigos, quedan en eso y bajan al lugar de la reunión (las ultimas expresiones que usaron fueron bastante significativas)*

*[Nota del traductor: Nja está siendo evasivo a drede en esta parte]

Sai: "No puedo quedarme sin hacer nada", y llamando a Sakura, van hacia donde está Naruto, ¿tal vez?

Sasuke y co. deciden acabar con Danzou cuando regrese de la conferencia

Sasuke, queriendo saber quien es Danzou, Va con Zetsu para confirmar su identidad

Pero al momento en que Zetsu le dice, "él es Danzou" hay un acercamiento en los ojos de Sasuke con el Sharingan

En la última parte podemos ver a los 5 kages mostrando sus rostros antes de comenzar la conferencia

Se disculpa por lo corto del texto.

Nota de xdanx: Siento si hay algo incomprensible pero algunas partes fueron algo confusas y las traduje de forma que se entendiera lo mejor posible

◆ T.D.A ◆
July 21, 2009, 06:22 AM
Well contary to what people believe, Sasuke isn't stupid enough to jump into action at all the Kages there at once. I wonder if Naruto and co also follow Raikage to the venue.

xdanx
July 21, 2009, 06:24 AM
Where do you see it ? :blink

Good question o.O I can't really find something that could make us think that

Anyway, this new Sasuke's sharingan will tell us the truth, since now he seems to be able to know if people lies or something like that, maybe mind-reading ¬__¬

laughing@you
July 21, 2009, 06:29 AM
Well if sasuke's sharingan activates and amaterasu is triggered automatically what are we supposed to think of danzou...:jk

Plinio
July 21, 2009, 06:29 AM
Italian Translation for VASSiLi's english text.

Traduzione Italiano

Samui e il suo team arrivano dal Raikage, e dopo arrivano Naruto& Co. che vanno dal Raikage

Naruto chian la testa e si prosta a terra dicendo: "Perfavore, perdonate Sasuke"

Raikage: "Un Shinobi non dovrebbe chinare il capo così facilmente!"

Il Raikage sembra non voler perdonare. allora si intromette nella conversazione Yamato che cerca di convincere il Raikage!

La scena va a Konoha!


Sai: "Non posso rimanere qui a non far nulla!", e forse chiama Sakura per andare da Naruto??

Sasuke and co. decidono di prendere Danzou dopo la conferenza!

Sasuke, vuole sapere chi è Danzou, e Zetsu va a confermare la sua identità

ma il momento che Zetsu dice chi è Danzou, Sasuke apre gli occhi con lo Sharigan!

L'ultima parte si vedono i 5 Kages che mostrano i loro volti appena prima dell'inizio della conferenza!!

jdw
July 21, 2009, 06:33 AM
LOL @ Yamato for tossing in Hyuuga randomly. I like that Raikage just dismissed Naruto as a homeless man with a tin cup begging for food or money. Enough is enough.

If Sakura is heading to meet up, expect some tears and someone from Konoha to die protecting her, possibly Sai. I was just starting to like the guy.

We finally might get confirmation of Madara's story. It is about time.

nianiote
July 21, 2009, 06:33 AM
Well if sasuke's sharingan activates and amaterasu is triggered automatically what are we supposed to think of danzou...:jk

Even if Danzou Sharigan eye is covered ? Ah you were joking LoL.

mannenntihnmo
July 21, 2009, 06:37 AM
sorry for not reading the whole thread, so maybe this question has already been asked:
why is everyone of you sure that madara hides behind the tobi mask?
couldn't it be danzou, since he revealed his sharingan? or is danzou madara? (though that wouldn't fit with the timeline and would be very weird). for me, this whole danzou/madara/tobi complex is the most interesting character atm.

laughing@you
July 21, 2009, 06:38 AM
Even if Danzou Sharigan eye is covered ?

:eyeroll

I'm must messing around. It wouldn't make sense for madara to send sasuke after himself.

But it would be funny though.

Naruto: Please forgive sasuke
Danzou's face starts to melt with amaterasu....
Naruto: Please forgive sasuke.

lol

nianiote
July 21, 2009, 06:39 AM
I hope Saï is not going to the Kage Summit. I'd prefer he joins Anko

omegafan00
July 21, 2009, 06:40 AM
I think people Jump the gun and run with things WAY TOO QUICKLY.

It's Sasuke activating Sharingan out of anger... where does it say "ITACHI MANGEKYOU IS TRIGGERED WHEN HE SEES DANZOU!"


No, it doesn't...

God, where's the common sense?

Where did I say that? No, I didn't.

I said it was automatically triggered when he sees Madara, not Danzo. And it's Sasuke's Mangekyou. Damn, you state that other people don't have common sense, but

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T READ, my friend.

I stated it as a possibility, not a statement. Read it again and again, before you shout negative things about people.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 06:43 AM
sorry for not reading the whole thread, so maybe this question has already been asked:
why is everyone of you sure that madara hides behind the tobi mask?
couldn't it be danzou, since he revealed his sharingan? or is danzou madara? (though that wouldn't fit with the timeline and would be very weird). for me, this whole danzou/madara/tobi complex is the most interesting character atm.

He calls himself madara and has been called madara by others. That is why. Could it be Danzou? Sure. We will have to wait and see.

eternalshiva
July 21, 2009, 06:43 AM
if they reveal information about something it would be good. though i think sakura might make sai say something about naruto's plan
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pleas dont be like that. i mean i agree, (TIEM 4 NARUHINA!?). yah the hyuuga's are being metioned but something about what happend to neji's father and reveng not being good and blahblah but its just that and not naruhina unfortunatly.

so naruto is beggin the raikage:
naruto: pleas forgive him
raikage: no
naruto: prety pleas.......
raikage: ok

Dude I was being sarcastic. *rolls eyes* NAruto discussion thread is vereh serius business. I was making a stab at the fact that Hyuuga got randomly mentioned out of nowhere. Kinda like Minato popped in to save the day.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 06:46 AM
I hope Saï is not going to the Kage Summit. I'd prefer he joins Anko

Same here, but my reason is because I don't want him taking Sakura with him :mad

But if he does join Anko, that could mean trouble for him since Danzou sent some of his other people to trail her. If something goes down, it is possible Sai might act directly againt Root, which would be pretty bad for him

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 06:47 AM
Where did I say that? No, I didn't.

I said it was automatically triggered when he sees Madara, not Danzo. And it's Sasuke's Mangekyou. Damn, you state that other people don't have common sense, but

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T READ, my friend.

I stated it as a possibility, not a statement. Read it again and again, before you shout negative things about people.

Where did you post? I don't think I was replying to you...

eternalshiva
July 21, 2009, 06:48 AM
Sakura went from fucking awesome to shitty in 3 panels over Sasuke.

Kishi's playing the Sakura is still hooked on Sasuke a bit much. She's pissing me off again, just as I started to like her.

I hope she chokes on something. She's a hinder to the manga atm, all she's doing is crying and asking Naruto to do her job, get her man back in the kitchen! She needs to pull a Hinata and get her shit together.

Zibi234
July 21, 2009, 06:48 AM
Heh it turns out that my rought summary was quite accurate :P..... anyway I hope sai wont bring sakura to naruto.... she is a character that will butt in with her own idelogic while knowing nothing (she always disturbs naruto in his talk,feelings and fighting [like naruto had to run in order to capture her becouse she was unable to dodge omoi's kick... and the same naruto lost a clone...]

I personaly hoped that sakura wont be butted now into the story... kishi should leave her crying at konoha... and make her watch over tsunade...

And what next... she will learn that naruto is 4th son and she would instantly have candy eyes for naruto (that woudl be soooo weak from her...)

Anyway I wonder what next..... will naruto leave with team samui to search for killerbee.... since they ratehr cant go with raikage since only 2persons are allowed.... maybe we will see a talk of naruto and team samui about what happened and who is the real enemy... maybe naruto will ask teamsamui about killerbee...

eternalshiva
July 21, 2009, 06:51 AM
Heh it turns out that my rought summary was quite accurate :P..... anyway I hope sai wont bring sakura to naruto.... she is a character that will butt in with her own idelogic while knowing nothing (she always disturbs naruto in his talk,feelings and fighting [like naruto had to run in order to capture her becouse she was unable to dodge omoi's kick... and the same naruto lost a clone...]

I personaly hoped that sakura wont be butted now into the story... kishi should leave her crying at konoha... and make her watch over tsunade...

And what next... she will learn that naruto is 4th son and she would instantly have candy eyes for naruto (that woudl be soooo weak from her...)

Anyway I wonder what next..... will naruto leave with team samui to search for killerbee.... since they ratehr cant go with raikage since only 2persons are allowed.... maybe we will see a talk of naruto and team samui about what happened and who is the real enemy... maybe naruto will ask teamsamui about killerbee...

Well, she did love Sasuke cause he was famous. I wouldn't put it too off from her to fangirl on Naruto because of his lineage now ~_~ If Naruto gets together with Sakura -just- because she finds out he's the son of a great man, I'm killing myself.

Kishi has no respect for women if that happens XD

EDIT - SORRY! I mean she liked him at first because of his mystique and mystery of being the sole Uchiha THEN it turned into love!

Sorry Sorry, relax NaruSaku fans, relax.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 06:51 AM
Heh it turns out that my rought summary was quite accurate :P..... anyway I hope sai wont bring sakura to naruto.... she is a character that will butt in with her own idelogic while knowing nothing (she always disturbs naruto in his talk,feelings and fighting [like naruto had to run in order to capture her becouse she was unable to dodge omoi's kick... and the same naruto lost a clone...]

I personaly hoped that sakura wont be butted now into the story... kishi should leave her crying at konoha... and make her watch over tsunade...

And what next... she will learn that naruto is 4th son and she would instantly have candy eyes for naruto (that woudl be soooo weak from her...)

Anyway I wonder what next..... will naruto leave with team samui to search for killerbee.... since they ratehr cant go with raikage since only 2persons are allowed.... maybe we will see a talk of naruto and team samui about what happened and who is the real enemy... maybe naruto will ask teamsamui about killerbee...

I hope that Naruto does not leave because it might interfere with his opportunity to see Sasuke. They are basically headed to the same place! If he groveled at Raikage's feet like a dog, maybe he will go grovel at Danzou's feet asking him to rescind the missing nin order?

HPTR Fangirl
July 21, 2009, 06:53 AM
:eyeroll
But it would be funny though.

Naruto: Please forgive sasuke
Danzou's face starts to melt with amaterasu....
Naruto: Please forgive sasuke.

lol

Agreed that is hilariou:tem

Naruto prostrating himself before Raikage. How much humiliation Naruto will take for Sasuke's sake (in front of strangers), and Sasuke just dismisses him saying he doesn't care him.

eternalshiva
July 21, 2009, 06:56 AM
One "sibling" will always feel responsible for the other's action, even when the other doesn't give two shits about the one that cares.

Family love

sarutobi_sensei
July 21, 2009, 06:58 AM
Same here, but my reason is because I don't want him taking Sakura with him :mad

But if he does join Anko, that could mean trouble for him since Danzou sent some of his other people to trail her. If something goes down, it is possible Sai might act directly againt Root, which would be pretty bad for him

I'd hate it if he did that. It would only cause trouble :\

So Naruto bows his head on the ground, once again, for Sasuke. Great... I'm so hopping that when Sasuke says: you're still following me? I'm not going to the village, I'm going to kill all of them...

Naruto then snaps the shit out of him.

Nice spoilers :D

HPTR Fangirl
July 21, 2009, 06:58 AM
I hope that Naruto does not leave because it might interfere with his opportunity to see Sasuke. They are basically headed to the same place! If he groveled at Raikage's feet like a dog, maybe he will go grovel at Danzou's feet asking him to rescind the missing nin order?
Though I doubt Danzou is going rescind Sasuke's killing order as a missing-nins. He wanted Sasuke dead for a long time. NO he has a valid excuse:notrust

Though I can see how seething mad he will be under the skin, when Danzou sees Naruto possibly at the Kage meeting. I wonder what he will do to punish Root and for Sai's betrayal

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:02 AM
Though I doubt Danzou is going rescind Sasuke's killing order as a missing-nins. He wanted Sasuke dead for a long time. NO he has a valid excuse:notrust

Though I can see how seething mad he will be under the skin, when Danzou sees Naruto possibly at the Kage meeting. I wonder what he will do to punish Root and for Sai's betrayal

Oh, he definitely won't do it, but Naruto does not know the reasons why he wont, so he will probably beg like starving dog at Danzou's feet.

I am just hoping we get to find out the exact reason why he wants Sasuke dead. I know there is the whole threat to Konoha aspect, but if there is more it should be revealed soon, and it if confirms Madara's story then i am not sure what happens next.

HPTR Fangirl
July 21, 2009, 07:06 AM
One "sibling" will always feel responsible for the other's action, even when the other doesn't give two shits about the one that cares.

Family love

I agree. For some reason, Naruto is partly reminding me of Itachi in the sense that he wants to save his brother / Sasuke, but only going through a different route. Itachi threatened the upper tiers of Konoha, where as Naruto is begging to forgive Sasuke to the upper tiers of different nations (cloud). Even though he is such a powerful person and ninja.

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 07:13 AM
Interesting spoiler, I wouldn't say this chapter will be as awesome as the last few, it doesn't seem like it is so far, but I won't give my final opinion until the whole thing comes out :). As for Naruto seeing the Raikage so soon, I did not expect that it would be that easy and that soon. I thought he would have tried to have been a bit more sneaker and would have had to wait till after the conference or something. Anyway, I guess its ok because it doesn't seem like the first encounter seemed to go anywhere so I'm sure that means there will be another one at some point with more progress.

HPTR Fangirl
July 21, 2009, 07:15 AM
Oh, he definitely won't do it, but Naruto does not know the reasons why he wont, so he will probably beg like starving dog at Danzou's feet.

I am just hoping we get to find out the exact reason why he wants Sasuke dead. I know there is the whole threat to Konoha aspect, but if there is more it should be revealed soon, and it if confirms Madara's story then i am not sure what happens next.

If Madara's story is true about the coup de'etat and Uchiha discrimination and its massacre by Konoha, I wonder what will Naruto do to prevent Sasuke's anger falling on entire Konoha. I also wonder how will he react, and decisions he will make, if he ever learns such information and Itachi's truth. I don't think Sasuke will listen to "when I become Hokage" speech of Naruto like Nagato did. :darn

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:17 AM
If Madara's story is true about the coup de'etat and Uchiha discrimination and its massacre by Konoha, I wonder what will Naruto do to prevent Sasuke's anger falling on entire Konoha. I also wonder how will he react, and decisions he will make, if he ever learns such information and Itachi's truth. I don't think Sasuke will listen to "when I become Hokage" speech of Naruto like Nagato did. :darn

Maybe he will let Sasuke beat him up, or he might commit seppuku at Sasuke's feet. Who knows. I just think it is time for Naruto to start showing some damn pride to go along with his plan to save Sasuke.

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 07:23 AM
Phew, atleast Sasuke won't attack head on at the Kage Summit. He has sense to wait after the conference is over, atleast we will get to see the Kage Summit actually happening and not just a battle royale. LOL

Though why did Sasuke suddenly activate his Sharingan when Zetsu showed who Danzou was? Has Sasuke seen him before or something? Hmm...

I don't mind the whole Hyuuga thing coming back. Though I hope it's Neji screentime to shine and not Hinata's -_-; Yamato randomly saying that was preety funny. LOL

narengan
July 21, 2009, 07:25 AM
I hate Sasuke so hard for making Naruto losing his dignity. Everyone would appreciate such a friend, but this arrogant emokid got crap on his brain.
Naruto seriously need to see that his doings are a bit to much. He act like a mangy dog with prostrating before raikage...

THM Nindo
July 21, 2009, 07:26 AM
1)
Wow, I'm amazed at Sasuke.
I never thought he would have the common sense of not attacking the Kage meeting.

I thought he was a lot too proud of his power to admit that he couldn't win.

2)
Glad to see that the Hyugga are coming back, we might actually hear some more stuff about their clan and the Byakugan.

3)
What will Sai do with Sakura?
There's no point for them to follow and meet up with Naruto, right now, is it?

4)
So what happened in the end?
Sasuke saw that Danzou had the Sharingan?

Brill
July 21, 2009, 07:30 AM
I wonder if Sai going off on his own gets him banished from Root? Maybe he chokes to death with that tongue seal. There'd be an opening in Team 7 again. Any takers?

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 07:30 AM
Phew, atleast Sasuke won't attack head on at the Kage Summit. He has sense to wait after the conference is over, atleast we will get to see the Kage Summit actually happening and not just a battle royale. LOL

Though why did Sasuke suddenly activate his Sharingan when Zetsu showed who Danzou was? Has Sasuke seen him before or something? Hmm...

I don't mind the whole Hyuuga thing coming back. Though I hope it's Neji screentime to shine and not Hinata's -_-; Yamato randomly saying that was preety funny. LOL

When you think of Sasuke and Danzou, it's the same as Naruto facing Nagato, Naruto struggled quite a bit to stop himself from killing Nagato.
Sasuke probably raged the moment he saw Danzou, though I really can't see Sasuke stopping himself.

I'm happy we'll see the meeting afterall, and on the subject on Yamato I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people start claiming "Yamaxhina" being a possibility now...

Logic
July 21, 2009, 07:31 AM
Ahem! Who was telling that sasuke will attack at the summit? That was a sasuke fan club thought. Even the mighty (?) uchiha sasuke knows that, attacking the 5 kages at a time means exposing his an*s for pleasure! I knew, he would just hide in the shadows and get danzou off guard, like the way danzou got the uchihas. The present spoiler texts suggest more to the danzou=madara theory. It's sure man! Read, sasuke is checking zetsu's thoughts. May be now sasuke will know that danzou is madara, and the story will have a serious twist then.

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 07:32 AM
Phew, atleast Sasuke won't attack head on at the Kage Summit. He has sense to wait after the conference is over, atleast we will get to see the Kage Summit actually happening and not just a battle royale. LOL

Though why did Sasuke suddenly activate his Sharingan when Zetsu showed who Danzou was? Has Sasuke seen him before or something? Hmm...

I don't mind the whole Hyuuga thing coming back. Though I hope it's Neji screentime to shine and not Hinata's -_-; Yamato randomly saying that was preety funny. LOL
Well it only seems fitting that they let the Kage Summit take place, this meeting has been kinda hyped now and plot wise we all want to see what they will be talking about and how the kage's will interact, plus Sasuke and Zetsu probably want the info on what happened at the Summit first before attacking. As well Danzou is Sasuke's only target, not everyone else, if he attacks now then he's getting 4 other Kage's involved. And yes, I don't mind giving the Hyuuga comeback either, too much Sharingan lately :p. O, and as for Sasuke activating his, it could be just an emotional reaction he had to seeing Danzou which is why he unleashed his Sharingan.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:33 AM
The present spoiler texts suggest more to the danzou=madara theory.

How so? Please explain your thinking on this.

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 07:33 AM
When you think of Sasuke and Danzou, it's the same as Naruto facing Nagato, Naruto struggled quite a bit to stop himself from killing Nagato.
Sasuke probably raged the moment he saw Danzou, though I really can't see Sasuke stopping himself.

I'm happy we'll see the meeting afterall, and on the subject on Yamato I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people start claiming "Yamaxhina" being a possibility now...
Yea, I like this analysis. It may also explain the Sharingan activation too. Its like when Naruto got mad, he got the Kyubi eyes because he starts to lose control when he gets really angry. Sasuke going Sharingan could just be a similar reaction to anger as well.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:34 AM
I wonder if Sai going off on his own gets him banished from Root? Maybe he chokes to death with that tongue seal. There'd be an opening in Team 7 again. Any takers?
Konohamaru. He is as good as anyone else who they could pick.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 07:35 AM
Naruto and sasuke shouldn't meet there. This will only make thing worse for naruto, who is trying to ask the Raikage to forgive sasuke. I don't think kishi will let them meet each other now. I think that is why sasuke has to wait after the meeting to go after Danzou.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:36 AM
Naruto and sasuke shouldn't meet there. This will only make thing worse for naruto, who is trying to ask the Raikage to forgive sasuke. I don't think kishi will let them meet each other now. I think that is why sasuke has to wait after the meeting to go after Danzou.

They could still meet if Naruto tries to go beg at the feet of all the Kages. If he goes with team Samui the chances of him meeting Sasuke soon drop to near zero.

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 07:36 AM
When you think of Sasuke and Danzou, it's the same as Naruto facing Nagato, Naruto struggled quite a bit to stop himself from killing Nagato.
Sasuke probably raged the moment he saw Danzou, though I really can't see Sasuke stopping himself.

I'm happy we'll see the meeting afterall, and on the subject on Yamato I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people start claiming "Yamaxhina" being a possibility now...

I think he noticed "something" fishy about Danzou. Maybe he recognized the Sharingan eye under the bandages of Danzou's right eye? Or maybe he might have seen him before in Part 1 somewhere. Don't know. Anyway he won't attack though, atleast this way Sasuke/Zetsu know what the Kages are going to talk about, their priorities etc as well as Naruto and Co will know it as well.

Oh no...please I hope Kishi doesn't focus on Hinata if he is planning to focus on the Hyuuga and the Byakuugan. We have the one and only Neji for that cool stuff.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 07:37 AM
How so? Please explain your thinking on this.
I am also curious here. I personally think that based on sasuke reaction after hearing something about danzou, this will a hint that Danzou is NOT Madara

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:38 AM
Oh no...please I hope Kishi doesn't focus on Hinata if he is planning to focus on the Hyuuga and the Byakuugan. We have the one and only Neji for that cool stuff.

Well, they are both involved with Cloud. They tried to kidnap Hinata, and Neiji lost his father due to the Cloud attempt. Maybe Kishi could involve both of them in the story? It would make sense.

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 07:40 AM
Well, they are both involved with Cloud. They tried to kidnap Hinata, and Neiji lost his father due to the Cloud attempt. Maybe Kishi could involve both of them in the story? It would make sense.
Plus Naruto has yet to talk to Hinata after the Pain incident :darn he needs to get in touch with her somehow right? lol

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 07:41 AM
Well, they are both involved with Cloud. They tried to kidnap Hinata, and Neiji lost his father due to the Cloud attempt. Maybe Kishi could involve both of them in the story? It would make sense.

I don't see Hinata going out for revenge, but I see Neji stepping up his game and throw a payback towards the Cloud for his father. In this case,Neji loosing his father and the whole revenge thing is more important then Hinata being kidnapped. He may say " Oh you also tried to kidnap Hinata" but that's how far it will probably go. It's hard to see Hinata saying "OMG! You tried to kidnap me! I'm going to kill you but first I love you" -_-;

But no, even though it's funny to see Hinata getting clobered. Enough is enough, we don't want to see her getting pawned by the Cloud.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 07:42 AM
I think he noticed "something" fishy about Danzou. Maybe he recognized the Sharingan eye under the bandages of Danzou's right eye? Or maybe he might have seen him before in Part 1 somewhere. Don't know. Anyway he won't attack though, atleast this way Sasuke/Zetsu know what the Kages are going to talk about, their priorities etc as well as Naruto and Co will know it as well.

Oh no...please I hope Kishi doesn't focus on Hinata if he is planning to focus on the Hyuuga and the Byakuugan. We have the one and only Neji for that cool stuff.

Who knows, at least i am 99.5% sure Danzou is not Madara, soon we'll have something even the slowest of people cannot ignore...

Logic
July 21, 2009, 07:42 AM
I wonder if Sai going off on his own gets him banished from Root? Maybe he chokes to death with that tongue seal. There'd be an opening in Team 7 again. Any takers?

yeah! Sai is already banished from root. He may get almost choked to death when he decides to talk about danzou to naruto & co. But then, sakura/kakashi may save him.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:43 AM
I don't see Hinata going out for revenge, but I see Neji stepping up his game and throw a payback towards the Cloud for his father. In this case,Neji loosing his father and the whole revenge thing is more important then Hinata being kidnapped. He may say " Oh you also tried to kidnap Hinata" but that's how far it will probably go.

Me neither, that why I never said revenge! :p She could play the role to help calm Neiji down before he acts too rashly and causes a war or something. She is the heir of Hyuuga, after all, no? It could bring them closer and play a role in changing the future of the main house and branch house. There are ways to involve Hinata without her seeking revenge.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 07:43 AM
They could still meet if Naruto tries to go beg at the feet of all the Kages. If he goes with team Samui the chances of him meeting Sasuke soon drop to near zero.

I don't think naruto has to beg the other kage if he can convince the Raikage to forgive sasuke and not to mention about killerbee there.(that will be difficult) . Other thing don't you think it will be weird and uncool seeing sasuke attack danzou while naruto is on his knees and begging Raikage?

Let me just say this. If naruto screws up convincing the Raikage(kages) here then sasuke is officially screwed and he is officially one of the bad guys with no return

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 07:45 AM
Who knows, at least i am 99.5% sure Danzou is not Madara, soon we'll have something even the slowest of people cannot ignore...

True, even I don't believe he is Madara 99.9%. Kishi is just keeping up the suspense as usual and trying to make his readers think " he is this, he is that" etc but at the end, he will shock us even more. :amuse

Though it would be really good (plot wise) if Sasuke noticed the Sharingan under Danzou's eye. He would be more confused as ever, and would start to ask questions at Danzou after the conference.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:46 AM
I don't think naruto has to beg the other kage if he can convince the Raikage to forgive sasuke and not to mention about killerbee there.(that will be difficult) . Other thing don't you think it will be weird and uncool seeing sasuke attack danzou while naruto is on his knees and begging Raikage?

Let me just say this. If naruto screws up convincing the Raikage(kages) here then sasuke is officially screwed and he is officially one of the bad guys with no return

The thing is, he may have to convince the others. If the other Kages think Sasuke is part of Akatsuki, and they are going to act against Akatsuki, then it may take more than just Raikage to prevent that from including Sasuke. I don' know.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 07:48 AM
Its kinda dangerous for yamato and konoha to bring up old misunderstandings here. it could lead to more worse thing. when it comes to neji or hinata, i don't think they will get involved in some kind of vengeance here.

makko
July 21, 2009, 07:48 AM
I'm glad Yamato is speaking up. He brought up a great point. I think this will help. I think over time Naruto will gain trust from many Kages. He already has Gaara. The Raikage and his brother DO seem to be more of Naruto's "type". Matter of fact... so does the Mizukage. They all have the demeanor that seems to match with Naruto. Anyway, Yamato speaking up in that way was great. It def opened the door for some sort of talk. I doubt Raikage will take them fully seriously at first. After all it is his brother. He will though. Also i'm sure Omoi will speak up for Naruto as well... vouching for him in a way.

Also, i wonder if down the line this issue with the Hyuuga gets bigger. Especially since Hinata has suddenly become somewhat relevant. I think its possible the Byakuugan has some powers that appear later in life. Maybe Hinata is coming to some other powers that even Neji hasn't discovered...

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 07:49 AM
Plus Naruto has yet to talk to Hinata after the Pain incident :darn he needs to get in touch with her somehow right? lol

That's all well and good, but he needs to remember that even happened first...

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 07:51 AM
Me neither, that why I never said revenge! :p She could play the role to help calm Neiji down before he acts too rashly and causes a war or something. She is the heir of Hyuuga, after all, no? It could bring them closer and play a role in changing the future of the main house and branch house. There are ways to involve Hinata without her seeking revenge.

Just a 1 minute talk though I doubt he will listen to Hinata. Well, Yamato is already is trying to start a war with the cloud anyway, he brought the subject up and using the line" we have a bone to pick with you" or something like that. Also, if Raikage decided to fight Sasuke,

Naruto will try to stop him meaning he is against him. Also Sasuke is a Konoha Shinobi, even though a missing one. There are more people then Neji who can start a war, and out of all of them Neji has the best reason to. His father. He doesn't have any excuses.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 07:51 AM
That's all well and good, but he needs to remember that even happened first...

He has at least some recollection of those events: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/441/06/

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 07:52 AM
That's all well and good, but he needs to remember that even happened first...
I'm sure he'll find out everything somehow, like maybe he approaches her and then she gives him a weird reaction or something and then runs off and then someone explains to him what happened because he's all confused n' stuff. He has a small idea of what happened though so who knows really, it would be an interesting situation to see them interact now.

Logic
July 21, 2009, 07:53 AM
How so? Please explain your thinking on this.

as sasuke said to juugo before that he will check zetsu. I'm confident that he activated the sharingan to check about danzou in zetsu's thought. Then he'll see through that what plans r zetsu & madara making for him. Then he will find out that danzou=madara.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 07:54 AM
The thing is, he may have to convince the others. If the other Kages think Sasuke is part of Akatsuki, and they are going to act against Akatsuki, then it may take more than just Raikage to prevent that from including Sasuke. I don' know.

Yeah you are right, but i still think Raikage will be his best option here, since naruto is good at handling difficult guys. So far its only konoha and kuma who knows about sasuke joining akatsuki. if the others should know think will be much complicated for naruto, not to mention madara being there to manipulate things so sasuke remains with him

HPTR Fangirl
July 21, 2009, 07:58 AM
Maybe he will let Sasuke beat him up, or he might commit seppuku at Sasuke's feet. Who knows. I just think it is time for Naruto to start showing some damn pride to go along with his plan to save Sasuke.

I agree on the statement that Naruto should show some pride when saving Sasuke instead of becoming others punching bag for Sasuke's enemies. But still I don't think beating the heck out of Naruto is going to assuage Sasuke's anger towards Konoha. I don't think he'll just beat Naruto to a pulp. He is going to break his bones, and almost kill him just to show his point to anyone and everyone trying to interfere in his plans to take vengence on Konoha, and avenging his clan. That I don't think I can see. :cry

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 08:00 AM
as sasuke said to juugo before that he will check zetsu. I'm confident that he activated the sharingan to check about danzou in zetsu's thought. Then he'll see through that what plans r zetsu & madara making for him. Then he will find out that danzou=madara.

Not convinced. I think sasuke activated sharingan because of shock/rage after hearing about danzou from zetsu. he tends to do that you know like when he saw itachi the first time while hunting him or when he was talking to madara about this hate for konoha.

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 08:03 AM
I think he left those in the woods somewhere, LMAO: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/450/01/
No, see he didn't have the flowers then because he already had sent the messenger frog....but Danzou killed that one too :darn

Anywho I don't think Naruto bowing before Raikage would have really helped his case. Raikage is a man that seems to honor strength and power and just kneeling and bowing before him pleading for something just doesn't cut it in his book.

gold349
July 21, 2009, 08:09 AM
The thing is, he may have to convince the others. If the other Kages think Sasuke is part of Akatsuki, and they are going to act against Akatsuki, then it may take more than just Raikage to prevent that from including Sasuke. I don' know.

I would have thought that Naruto the first person he needed to convince was Danzou, give him something of info/anything else that would help his cause/desire. Asking/begging Raikage to pardon Sasuke while his own Hokage is for killing him wasn't worth anything.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:10 AM
Only way Naruto can get through Raikage is to whip out sage mode for Kakashi and Yamato to see and have a Burly duel of youthful spirit with the Raikage!

jodi
July 21, 2009, 08:12 AM
He calls himself madara and has been called madara by others. That is why. Could it be Danzou? Sure. We will have to wait and see.


Well, Madara was Mizukage and is the leader of akatsuki
so I don't see him being Danzou.. wouldn't make sense
I think that Danzou just stole someone's sharingan... maybe he stole Madara's sharingan?
that would make him INSANE MOFO.

Logic
July 21, 2009, 08:12 AM
I'm glad Yamato is speaking up. He brought up a great point. I think this will help. I think over time Naruto will gain trust from many Kages. He already has Gaara. The Raikage

don't forget naruto already has amekage (konan) in his side too! A former rebel as ally. More than any other achievement.

Maybe Hinata is coming to some other powers that even Neji hasn't discovered...

sure man! Hinata is bound to achieve some great powers, if she wants to divert naruto's attention from sakura.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 08:13 AM
Only way Naruto can get through Raikage is to whip out sage mode for Kakashi and Yamato to see and have a Burly duel of youthful spirit with the Raikage!

That is a great idea seeing that the Raikage is the type that can solve everything with strength.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:13 AM
don't forget naruto already has amekage (konan) in his side too! A former rebel as ally. More than any other achievement.


Since when is Konan a Kage?

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 08:15 AM
don't forget naruto already has amekage (konan) in his side too! A former rebel as ally. More than any other achievement

Konan isn't a Kage. Negato wasn't a Kage either. Amegakure doesn't have a Kage, wtf?

There are only 5 Kages in the Narutoverse guys, -_-;

HPTR Fangirl
July 21, 2009, 08:17 AM
Only way Naruto can get through Raikage is to whip out sage mode for Kakashi and Yamato to see and have a Burly duel of youthful spirit with the Raikage!


Now that is a battle I will cheer for and would like to see very much. Two powerhouses with similar temparment going out at each other:)

Arrogance
July 21, 2009, 08:17 AM
Konan isn't a Kage. Negato wasn't a Kage either. Amegakure doesn't have a Kage, wtf?

There are only 5 Kages in the Narutoverse guys, -_-;
No, they don't have a Kage, but supposedly she is in charge right now and she gave Naruto her support and the support of Amegakure, so its not a kage but its at least something :D

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:19 AM
Now that is a battle I will cheer for and would like to see very much. Two powerhouses with similar temparment going out at each other:)

Personally, I'd much rather see a hilarious battle between Gai VS Raikage, the awesome and comedy that is bound to happen if they are ever in the same room.

Yondaime Uzumaki
July 21, 2009, 08:20 AM
Since when is Konan a Kage?

She doesn't have to be. Nagato was literally considered a god in his country. god>>>>>kage

Konan was the only person that was known by the villagers to be associated with Nagato/Pain. The little war they had was over and Pain reigned supreme in his country, and Konan was his right-hand man/woman.

makko
July 21, 2009, 08:23 AM
I'm glad Yamato is speaking up. He brought up a great point. I think this will help. I think over time Naruto will gain trust from many Kages. He already has Gaara. The Raikage and his brother DO seem to be more of Naruto's "type". Matter of fact... so does the Mizukage. They all have the demeanor that seems to match with Naruto. Anyway, Yamato speaking up in that way was great. It def opened the door for some sort of talk. I doubt Raikage will take them fully seriously at first. After all it is his brother. He will though. Also i'm sure Omoi will speak up for Naruto as well... vouching for him in a way.

Also, i wonder if down the line this issue with the Hyuuga gets bigger. Especially since Hinata has suddenly become somewhat relevant. I think its possible the Byakuugan has some powers that appear later in life. Maybe Hinata is coming to some other powers that even Neji hasn't discovered...

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:24 AM
Well Itachi already stated Madara's eyes are both intact.
As it is, way too many things make Danzou = Madara seem silly.

If it somehow turns out to be true then Madara is the most contradicting character ever.

pops
July 21, 2009, 08:24 AM
I would have thought that Naruto the first person he needed to convince was Danzou, give him something of info/anything else that would help his cause/desire. Asking/begging Raikage to pardon Sasuke while his own Hokage is for killing him wasn't worth anything.

i think he is aware that there is no reasoning with Danzou. it doesn't matter that he is the hokage. his stance on the subject is set in stone, but at least with the raikage he feels there is some hope...even if this hope is derived from him not knowing exactly where the raikage stands on the matter.

jdw
July 21, 2009, 08:28 AM
I'm glad Yamato is speaking up. He brought up a great point. I think this will help. I think over time Naruto will gain trust from many Kages. He already has Gaara. The Raikage and his brother DO seem to be more of Naruto's "type". Matter of fact... so does the Mizukage. They all have the demeanor that seems to match with Naruto. Anyway, Yamato speaking up in that way was great. It def opened the door for some sort of talk. I doubt Raikage will take them fully seriously at first. After all it is his brother. He will though. Also i'm sure Omoi will speak up for Naruto as well... vouching for him in a way.

Also, i wonder if down the line this issue with the Hyuuga gets bigger. Especially since Hinata has suddenly become somewhat relevant. I think its possible the Byakuugan has some powers that appear later in life. Maybe Hinata is coming to some other powers that even Neji hasn't discovered...

If I see Kishi, I will beg at his feet like Naruto did Raikage so that he will level-up the Byakugan. I will promise to not get upset if the level-up happens with only Neiji and not Hinata. But something needs to be done. Maybe the Byakugan will make an appearance in one of the coming chapters of Sharingan.

Atemu
July 21, 2009, 08:28 AM
The Iron country does not have the ninja system so they may also not hava a kage or a hidden village.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:28 AM
Who made the order to abduct Hiashi ? The current Raikage or a former one ? Did we know that ?

Raikage did mention the Hyuuga incident awhile back, so it's assumed he was Kage then too, but we can't really say for sure.

zerocooldx
July 21, 2009, 08:29 AM
There are only five Kages within the Naruto world, the same five that rule over the five great nations. So i don't know why people keep insisting that every leader we see is suddenly a considered Kage. :darn

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:30 AM
I will promise to not get upset if the level-up happens with only Neiji and not Hinata. But something needs to be done. Maybe the Byakugan will make an appearance in one of the coming chapters of Sharingan.

I feel really confident that the Byakugan has a shit load of potential we have yet to see.

I mean the Sharingan came from the Byakugan, it has MS and EMS, sure the trait of "Multiple forms" is something it got from the Byakugan.

Logic
July 21, 2009, 08:30 AM
Konan isn't a Kage. Negato wasn't a Kage either. Amegakure doesn't have a Kage, wtf?

There are only 5 Kages in the Narutoverse guys, -_-;

i know that. But she is the head of the hidden rain village now. She is the leader of the thousands of ninja there. So, even if she doesn't use the name 'kage', she is still a person having the same qualities. She is not 'kage', but a kage, no questions asked. It's a meaningless question, kind of like if u ask me how do i know that there r thousands of ninja in amegakure. Answer: common sense!

makko
July 21, 2009, 08:30 AM
I dont think there is a kage for the iron country!

If they are Samurai then there is a general "leader"... Daimyo

chess4
July 21, 2009, 08:32 AM
wonder why sasuke activated his sharingan

gold349
July 21, 2009, 08:32 AM
yeah the best jutsu she can learn is to summon Naruto and begging him to rescue her :darn

Who made the order to abduct Hiashi ? The current Raikage or a former one ? Did we know that ?

no one gave order to abduct Hiashi...it was Hinata, Neji's father was sacrificed to stop a war 'cus the cloud nin died in the attempt.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:33 AM
i know that. But she is the head of the hidden rain village now. She is the leader of the thousands of ninja there. So, even if she doesn't use the name 'kage', she is still a person having the same qualities. She is not 'kage', but a kage, no questions asked. It's a meaningless question, kind of like if u ask me how do i know that there r thousands of ninja in amegakure. Answer: common sense!

She's just a village leader... that's all.
So no, she's not a Kage no matter HOW you look at it.

sindergi
July 21, 2009, 08:33 AM
If they are Samurai then there is a general "leader"... Daimyo

I think it would be more like a Shōgun......the Shōgun was the leader of samurai

Weapon_X
July 21, 2009, 08:34 AM
If they are Samurai then there is a general "leader"... Daimyo

There is, his name is Mifune. :)

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-456/page018.html

He is the head of the Iron Country.


i know that. But she is the head of the hidden rain village now. She is the leader of the thousands of ninja there. So, even if she doesn't use the name 'kage', she is still a person having the same qualities. She is not 'kage', but a kage, no questions asked. It's a meaningless question, kind of like if u ask me how do i know that there r thousands of ninja in amegakure. Answer: common sense!

She isn't a Kage. If she was a Kage then she would be attending the Kage Summit but she isn't no matter how you see it fit. Just because she is a village leader doesn'tmake her a Kage.

Oro was the leader of Sound Village, was he a Sound Kage? No.

ninjaman
July 21, 2009, 08:35 AM
wonder why sasuke activated his sharingan

ametsaru time. If he does taht he his pretty much screwed. 5kages chasing him and 1 with sharigan, blackman that wanna beat him up, short guy that had to travel, etc.

Xiraiya
July 21, 2009, 08:35 AM
I think it would be more like a Shōgun......the Shōgun was the leader of samurai

You would be correct, though the position is generally similar, I think Shogun is the right name for them.