Naruto Volume 49 (Ch. 545-463) Discussion

[6 PATHS OF PEIN]

in order for danzo to become hokage they need to vote for him he said it himself that he needs to gain the trust and that is why he did nothing to naruto because he was looked as a hero in the village and someone can challenge him like he challenge the third

[benelori]

WOW Everyone is firery in here, lol. Danzou will still be hokage point blank. Sakura is only trying to remain strong before she runs off to tell naruto and they together try to find him before everyone else does.

I bet you guys 50$ that shikamaru doesn't even look for sasuke and just tracks sakura via a neat shaddow justu. Its been a while since we've seen konoha nin fight amongst themselves.

This new direction in the story makes the manga relevant again!

no,no,no... danzou hokageship is over, the alliance is compromised and i think danzou wanted to use this to get the approval of the jonins

[6 PATHS OF PEIN]

1. I don't know how long you've been reading this manga, but in the beginning Sakura and Ino where in Love with Sasuke.... So ya I can see her crying over it. As Sakura will be too.

2.Well I actually believe that Kishi is setting up so that Sakura is falling in Love with Naruto... I believe her feeling for Naruto are far greater now than with Sasuke. So I can see the change in heart.

3.It sounds to me like Madara planned this. So he must want Sasuke out of the picture, because he knows that he can't be trusted. At the same time Sasuke may be able to take out some of the competition. So it's in Madara best interest to force Sasuke to fight against all of the Kages so that he takes at the very least take one Kage out and gets killed in the process.

that doesn't make any sense why would he go threw all the trouble to get sasuke to just kill him off and sasuke is strong but to kill a kage come on who are kidding naruto is stronger they said it themselves. naruto defeated pain and pain was as strong if not stronger then a kage cause not tsunade or jiriya could defeat him hahaahahah sasuke defeat a kage lol

[Zachc2009]

u seem to not understand is that danzo manipulated the fire lord to become leader of the village and now he is doing the same thing to the guy from the iron country and he obviously got the eye and arm to manipulate things his way and he has all his subordinates with that curse that if they say something about him then they will die that to me is someone u can not trust


You have struck up a very interesting theory in my point of view, Danzou has probably done this to trigger the Uchiha Massacre in his own way by manipulating the elders.

fair enough they are stubborn old fashioned people but to kill one of konohas most powerful clans is in itself a great sacrifice to the leafs power and stability

[Darth Executor]

Maybe you should get out more often and watch the news and sees what happens to a nation when an assination attempt goes through, you might exactly learn something for a change. Sasuke endangering the lives of a village doesn't make him any better, at this point the village needs Danzou's leadership more than ever.

Konoha isn't a nation, just a village. What happened when Tsunade got taken out? Nothing, they just put another hokage in her place. Same with Sarutobi. Konoha doesn't need the leadership of a weasel like danzou. Furthermore, KONOHA MURDERED SASUKE'S FAMILY. He has no responsibility towards them.



So the fact that Sasuke's wants revenge on Konoha makes him just

No, the fact that he wants revenge on Danzou makes him just. Don't lie about what I said.


and the fact that Raikage wants revenge on Sasuke for supposely taking his brother's life and unintentionally stirring up conflict between two nations makes him a douchebag as you call? :facepalm


No, the fact that he tried to kidnap hinata and when the hyuuga kidnapper got killed he demanded compensation makes him a douchebag. Not only did he attempt to take a little girl away from her family, presumably to carve her up and gain the secrets of the byakugan, but he had the audacity to demand compensation from konoha for his crimes. He's a dipshit, plain and simple.


Yes because caring sooo much is the problem for a lost cause like himself, maybe you shouldn't let your blatant fanboyism cloud your judgement so you can make a better argument

Huh? What does this have to do with what I say? Is becoming incoherent a defense mechanism for getting humiliated (seems to happen quite often these days)? Maybe you should get your facts straight so you can make a better argument.

PS: who am I a fanboy of? Until this morning I had the top 10 characters I like in my sig and sasuke (who had previously been at 10) got bumped when the mizukage showed up. Just because I don't hate him with the blinding range that only severe middle school bullying at the hands of a girly looking guy with a blank stare could bring about doesn't make me a "fanboy". An accusation I find hilarious anyway when coming from an obvious hateboy like yourself.

[narutokuro]

3.It sounds to me like Madara planned this. So he must want Sasuke out of the picture, because he knows that he can't be trusted. At the same time Sasuke may be able to take out some of the competition. So it's in Madara best interest to force Sasuke to fight against all of the Kages so that he takes at the very least take one Kage out and gets killed in the process.

Its not that Madara wants sauske out of the picture. He wants sasuke to be cornered and have not choice but to rely on him for everything. Throughout the entire manga people have been hunting sasuke for his body and his powers. IMO Madara is no different. If Madara wanted sasuke dead...trust he would be. Sauske can't even beat Zetsu.

Zetsu might be more dangerous than we all realize. He was so bold to sneak up on 5 hokages and 10 bodygaurd ninjas just to tell stupid sasuke jokes. Normal ninja don't have skill enough to do that. Zetsu...look out folks.

[Darth Executor]

THERE ARE SEVERAL UNCLEAR THINGS I WANT TO MENTION...

Don't type in all caps, it tends to amplify people's low opinion of your intellect. Not saying you're dumb, but if you say dumb things it'll only make it look worse.


1-"Change of scene to INO CRYING".....WHAT THE FUCK?! who is she? i mean WTF!! she has no relations to sasuke so why is she shown crying about him!!!!!!!????? omg kishi u suck lemons!

She's always been a vacuous whore and she liked sasuke too. Why change?


3-"Zetsu: Uchiha Sasuke is intruding... So, where do you think he is hiding?"....WTH KISHI NOW MAKES SPECIAL ENTRANCE MESSAGES FOR SASUKE? WHATS NEXT?? BACKGROUNG MUSIC SPECIALLY FOR HIM?


:facepalm

Look at the pics. Sasuke left the kage meeting and is out in the snow when he realizes zetsu's missing. Zetsu's not announcing sasuke's entrance, he's probably backstabbing him by letting them know where he is.

[benelori]

Its not that Madara wants sauske out of the picture. He wants sasuke to be cornered and have not choice but to rely on him for everything. Throughout the entire manga people have been hunting sasuke for his body and his powers. IMO Madara is no different. If Madara wanted sasuke dead...trust he would be. Sauske can't even beat Zetsu.

Zetsu might be more dangerous than we all realize. He was so bold to sneak up on 5 hokages and 10 bodygaurd ninjas just to tell stupid sasuke jokes. Normal ninja don't have skill enough to do that. Zetsu...look out folks.

I think it has been mentioned, but i'll say it, too... madara wants sasuke get EMS, then he will take that EMS, probably creating something greater like controlling not just kyuubi but the whole bijuu zoo at once

[The_Drunk]

Its not that Madara wants sauske out of the picture. He wants sasuke to be cornered and have not choice but to rely on him for everything. Throughout the entire manga people have been hunting sasuke for his body and his powers. IMO Madara is no different. If Madara wanted sasuke dead...trust he would be. Sauske can't even beat Zetsu.

Zetsu might be more dangerous than we all realize. He was so bold to sneak up on 5 hokages and 10 bodygaurd ninjas just to tell stupid sasuke jokes. Normal ninja don't have skill enough to do that. Zetsu...look out folks.

Ya well Madara wanted Naruto and that went well didn't it. I mean if he wanted Naruto he would have done it already right. Madara doesn't need Sasuke anymore, especially now that he knows that he can't control him. If Madara can't control him then he becomes a burden so he needs to get rid of him.

[Thabor]

Well judging from your comment it's obvious you don't, since he didn't have anyhand in the deaths of Hanzo, Tsunade or Minato. LIKE SASUKE everything he's done has been for his own gain and plans, if you're to much a fanboy to ralize this than I pity you.

What are you talking about?? :facepalm If was was involved with Orochimaru's then he is implicated in the deaths of the Hokage and the Kazekage. And its certainly treasonous to hold back critical troops when the village is under attack, even if he isn't directly responsible for Tsunade.

The difference is so far nothing that Sasuke has done has been at the expense of the village. And in fact he is responsible at least in part for removing several major threats to all of the villages.

[Jadedmariner]

Ya well Madara wanted Naruto and that went well didn't it. I mean if he wanted Naruto he would have done it already right. Madara doesn't need Sasuke anymore, especially now that he knows that he can't control him. If Madara can't control him then he becomes a burden so he needs to get rid of him.

It seems pretty apparent he could have easily captured Naruto when he personally ran into him. It is never truly clear what Madara desires or is planning. The truth is that it seems that he valued things like secrecy the most and he will probably be furious that his secret is out.

[The_Drunk]

I think it has been mentioned, but i'll say it, too... madara wants sasuke get EMS, then he will take that EMS, probably creating something greater like controlling not just kyuubi but the whole bijuu zoo at once

Doesn't Sasuke have EMS already... I think the only thing that Sasuke doens't have is the permanent EMS which needs to be transplanted. So what's next... transplanting an eye from a transplanted EMS eye from a transplanted eye. Maybe that's how he became immortal. Madara transplanted a transplanted sharingan eye into himself and became immortal. Wow didn't think of that one until right now.

[Darth Executor]

Doesn't Sasuke have EMS already... I think the only thing that Sasuke doens't have is the permanent EMS which needs to be transplanted.

EMS = eternal mangekyou sharingan...

[Jadedmariner]

Doesn't Sasuke have EMS already... I think the only thing that Sasuke doens't have is the permanent EMS which needs to be transplanted. So what's next... transplanting an eye from a transplanted EMS eye from a transplanted eye. Maybe that's how he became immortal. Madara transplanted a transplanted sharingan eye into himself and became immortal. Wow didn't think of that one until right now.

Sasuke has MS not EMS. The E stands for eternal aka the permanent part.

[Nicholas.Sama]

Doesn't Sasuke have EMS already... I think the only thing that Sasuke doens't have is the permanent EMS which needs to be transplanted. So what's next... transplanting an eye from a transplanted EMS eye from a transplanted eye. Maybe that's how he became immortal. Madara transplanted a transplanted sharingan eye into himself and became immortal. Wow didn't think of that one until right now.

no he just has MS
which is why he is going blind
he must take itachi's eyes in order for him to gain the EMS

[The_Drunk]

It seems pretty apparent he could have easily captured Naruto when he personally ran into him. It is never truly clear what Madara desires or is planning. The truth is that it seems that he valued things like secrecy the most and he will probably be furious that his secret is out.

That's why I said that Madara wants Sasuke killed. That's why Madara sent celery boy to tell everyone that Sasuke is outside. Madara ran into Sasuke too and could have killed him right there, but he gave Sasuke a death mission. Sasuke couldn't even kill the 8 tails, let alone his brother. Good luck Sasuke,,,, you'd better hope that Naruto stays put and saves your sorry ass, because he's the only one who can save you now. Naruto vs the Kages.
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DANG.....SORRY ABOUT THE EMS...... there are so many names for that eye it's almost as bad as Rasengan....

[Realtwisted]

That's why I said that Madara wants Sasuke killed. That's why Madara sent celery boy to tell everyone that Sasuke is outside. Madara ran into Sasuke too and could have killed him right there, but he gave Sasuke a death mission.

Madara still need Sasuke, the is why he want Sasuke on his side. Madara want Sasuke to over use his MS so he can obtain EMS, so he want him to fight strong fight



Sasuke couldn't even kill the 8 tails, let alone his brother. Good luck Sasuke,,,, you'd better hope that Naruto stays put and saves your sorry ass, because he's the only one who can save you now. Naruto vs the Kages.

The 8 tails din't beat Sasuke either, if killer bee could kill Sasuke them why he din't?

[DARK]

no he just has MS
which is why he is going blind
he must take itachi's eyes in order for him to gain the EMS

The only one with EMS is Madara.

[Thabor]

DANG.....SORRY ABOUT THE EMS...... there are so many names for that eye it's almost as bad as Rasengan....

It'll get worse before it gets better.. Beware the EMFRS.. Eternal Mangekyou Futon Rasen Sharingan..

[Darth Executor]

That's why I said that Madara wants Sasuke killed. That's why Madara sent celery boy to tell everyone that Sasuke is outside. Madara ran into Sasuke too and could have killed him right there, but he gave Sasuke a death mission. Sasuke couldn't even kill the 8 tails, let alone his brother. Good luck Sasuke,,,, you'd better hope that Naruto stays put and saves your sorry ass, because he's the only one who can save you now. Naruto vs the Kages.
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I highly doubt naruto can go against the 5 kages anymore than sasuke can. If anything, I think sasuke has a better chance since he's more versatile (though in terms of raw strength sage mode gives naruto the edge). yeah, naruto beat pain but he had a bunch of things going for him that made the fight a bit lopsided in his favor (not to detract from his accomplishment, but it's the truth). i think it would be a team effort between taka, naruto, kakashi and yamato just to hold their own against 15 of the most talented shinobi in the world., and there's no guarantee sasuke will accept their help or even that kakashi and yamato wouldn't just grab naruto and run like a pair of bitches when they see what they're up against.

[DARK]

I highly doubt naruto can go against the 5 kages anymore than sasuke can. If anything, I think sasuke has a better chance since he's more versatile (though in terms of raw strength sage mode gives naruto the edge). yeah, naruto beat pain but he had a bunch of things going for him that made the fight a bit lopsided in his favor (not to detract from his accomplishment, but it's the truth). i think it would be a team effort between taka, naruto, kakashi and yamato just to hold their own against 15 of the most talented shinobi in the world., and there's no guarantee sasuke will accept their help or even that kakashi and yamato wouldn't just grab naruto and run like a pair of bitches when they see what they're up against.

Naruto and Sasuke may be on the level of S-rank/Kage-level ninja, but they cannot go up against five of them at once.

[Jothesh2]

Ya well Madara wanted Naruto and that went well didn't it. I mean if he wanted Naruto he would have done it already right. Madara doesn't need Sasuke anymore, especially now that he knows that he can't control him. If Madara can't control him then he becomes a burden so he needs to get rid of him.

Well I think what madara wants is for sasuke to get itachi's eye.

The only reason I would think he would want to do that is because he lost one of his eyes and he would get sasukes EMS.

[benelori]

That's why I said that Madara wants Sasuke killed. That's why Madara sent celery boy to tell everyone that Sasuke is outside. Madara ran into Sasuke too and could have killed him right there, but he gave Sasuke a death mission. Sasuke couldn't even kill the 8 tails, let alone his brother. Good luck Sasuke,,,, you'd better hope that Naruto stays put and saves your sorry ass, because he's the only one who can save you now. Naruto vs the Kages.
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DANG.....SORRY ABOUT THE EMS...... there are so many names for that eye it's almost as bad as Rasengan....

Sasuke is in a useless light right now and i can imagine that after saved by naruto he will point his revenge towards madara lol... but i stated my opinion earlier so that's it for this topic to me

[DARK]

Well I think what madara wants is for sasuke to get itachi's eye.

The only reason I would think he would want to do that is because he lost one of his eyes and he would get sasukes EMS.

He just wants to use Sasuke.

[Nicholas.Sama]

The only one with EMS is Madara.

yes i know that,
which is why sasuke must take itachi's eyes in order to get it

sorry, i cant tell if you were just adding to my statement, or tying to correct me.

[DARK]

yes i know that,
which is why sasuke must take itachi's eyes in order to get it

sorry, i cant tell if you were just adding to my statement, or tying to correct me.

I was trying to correct whomever said that Sasuke had EMS.

[Realtwisted]

I highly doubt naruto can go against the 5 kages anymore than sasuke can. If anything, I think sasuke has a better chance since he's more versatile (though in terms of raw strength sage mode gives naruto the edge). yeah, naruto beat pain but he had a bunch of things going for him that made the fight a bit lopsided in his favor (not to detract from his accomplishment, but it's the truth). i think it would be a team effort between taka, naruto, kakashi and yamato just to hold their own against 15 of the most talented shinobi in the world., and there's no guarantee sasuke will accept their help or even that kakashi and yamato wouldn't just grab naruto and run like a pair of bitches when they see what they're up against.

i would no say 5 kages...
We don't know what are Danzo plans, and who esle is with him"mizukages":p:D

[Zachc2009]

yes i know that,
which is why sasuke must take itachi's eyes in order to get it

sorry, i cant tell if you were just adding to my statement, or tying to correct me.


but how can you be sure he still has it?

theres something for you to think about!


hehehe

[imported_rock_Lee]

The 8 tails din't beat Sasuke either, if killer bee could kill Sasuke them why he din't?

Actually he did it twice! And then Sasuke was rescued by yugo and karin, without them he would be already dead.


Naruto and Sasuke may be on the level of S-rank/Kage-level ninja, but they cannot go up against five of them at once.

Well if Naruto goes Kyubimode there isn´t that much what they could do about it.

[Nicholas.Sama]

but how can you be sure he still has it?

theres something for you to think about!


hehehe

lol...i have my doubts

but seeing as he has copied and perfected minato's jutsu makes me wonder

[Jadedmariner]

I highly doubt naruto can go against the 5 kages anymore than sasuke can. If anything, I think sasuke has a better chance since he's more versatile (though in terms of raw strength sage mode gives naruto the edge). yeah, naruto beat pain but he had a bunch of things going for him that made the fight a bit lopsided in his favor (not to detract from his accomplishment, but it's the truth). i think it would be a team effort between taka, naruto, kakashi and yamato just to hold their own against 15 of the most talented shinobi in the world., and there's no guarantee sasuke will accept their help or even that kakashi and yamato wouldn't just grab naruto and run like a pair of bitches when they see what they're up against.

Nah. Sasuke is clearly more versatile, however his fighting abilities have always been more geared to 1v1 battles. Naruto on the other hand uses jutsu and strategies that are very good for a battle against multiple opponents. However, I agree that I don't believe either of them are capable of defeating all the Kages. Judging by Killerbee I'm not even sure that they can necessarily defeat the Raikage in a 1v1 battle yet. Although, if Naruto got the Suna on his side Taka, Team Naruto, and Suna fighting the Cloud, Mist, and Leaf would seem like it should be pretty even.

[Darth Executor]

Well if Naruto goes Kyubimode there isn´t that much what they could do about it.

Raikage has a jinchuuriki brother. he can probably prevent the transformation. Mizukage might also know how to deal with a jinchuuriki.

[Jothesh2]

He just wants to use Sasuke.

I think he wants to drive sasuke to realize he cant do it on his own, therefore making him use his brothers eye.

Why would he use him? To capture the beasts? Im pretty sure he is capable of that.


He justs wants sasuke to have EMS so he can obtain another eye or even replace both to obtain OMEGA EMS.

[DARK]

Raikage has a jinchuuriki brother. he can probably prevent the transformation. Mizukage might also know how to deal with a jinchuuriki.

Dude, they're the leaders of villages whom sealed tailed beasts into their own kin. I'm sure they know everything there is to know about Jinchuriki. Besides, Naruto wouldn't use his Kyubi abilities anyway. Anyways, let's get back on topic.

[tatsudoshi]

Well, judging from the spoilers I'd say that Madara wants Sasuke found, but not captured, hence why he seems to be in the Iron country. I believe Madara needs Sasuke, maybe not his body, but definitely his power(s) if he obtains EMS.

We all know, well, at least assume Madara has been manipulating Sasuke, so with that said I'd say that Madara wants Sasuke to obtain EMS, but Sasuke doesn't want his brothers eyes; so Madara being the evil manipulative genius that he is, sets things up to where Sasuke will be begging for his brothers eyes. And I believe this will be happening very soon.

If Sasuke is found, I think he's going to get his ass handed to him by whom ever he fights. Once this occurs Madara will step in and rescue Sasuke; then Sasuke will be forced to obtain his brothers eyes or go blind.

[imported_rock_Lee]

Raikage has a jinchuuriki brother. he can probably prevent the transformation. Mizukage might also know how to deal with a jinchuuriki.

if it would be that easy to deal with a jinchuuriki what would be the point in having them at all?

And this is not just an random jinchuuriki this is the 9tails!

[Zachc2009]

I think he wants to drive sasuke to realize he cant do it on his own, therefore making him use his brothers eye.

Why would he use him? To capture the beasts? Im pretty sure he is capable of that.


He justs wants sasuke to have EMS so he can obtain another eye or even replace both to obtain OMEGA EMS.

you'd think he would suffice with a specsavers, honestly what is this "you take my eye. i'll take yours" arc?

[Darth Executor]

Nah. Sasuke is clearly more versatile, however his fighting abilities have always been more geared to 1v1 battles.

Maybe. He did take on team 7 solo. Granted, it wasn't a real fight but he did ok even for what it was.


Naruto on the other hand uses jutsu and strategies that are very good for a battle against multiple opponents.

Yeah, but his KBs won't be of much help. and if he uses sage mode he can only make a couple anyway. Other than that, frs doesn't seem to be able to be guided remotely, it just expands which is bad when fighting so many people.

Sasuke otoh can use chidori nagashi if a bunch of them jump him and amaterasu looks like it would be more effective against a mob than frs since he uses it continuously and can compensate for movement.

Crowd fight isn't why i said sasuke is more versatile though. I said he's versatile because of the variety of types of jutsu which means he's more likely to have a counter to a dangerous situation. naruto's skills can mostly deal with crowds but he's a "couple trick pony" with a highly destructive jutsu and some multiplication, the latter which is fairly common in the ninja world.

The only "trick" jutsu naruto has is his perverted ninjutsu. I can practically see the dwarf nose-bleeding to death.


However, I agree that I don't believe either of them are capable of defeating all the Kages. Judging by Killerbee I'm not even sure that they can necessarily defeat the Raikage in a 1v1 battle yet. Although, if Naruto got the Suna on his side Taka, Team Naruto, and Suna fighting the Cloud, Mist, and Leaf would seem like it should be pretty even.

Ahh, I forgot gaara & co is one of the kages. yeah, that would even it up. sasuke sort of killed deidara who's not exactly gaara's best friend and naruto helped save his life so he has no reason to stick with the kages.

[Realtwisted]

Raikage has a jinchuuriki brother. he can probably prevent the transformation. Mizukage might also know how to deal with a jinchuuriki.

wow, there is a way to stop people from using jinchuuriki?

[Darth Executor]

wow, there is a way to stop people from using jinchuuriki?

kakashi used a seal jiraiya gave him on naruto to stop his transformation in the gaara rescue arc. cloud's jinchuuriki knowledge is considerably more advanced than konoha's so i wouldn't be surprised if they have some countermeasures.

[Kevkashi]

Ok I have a few questions to pose. This chapter its all about the kages not trusting Danzou. But how exactly does the Raikage know who is in akatsuki? He made a comment last issue that no shinobi from kumo is in akatsuki. How would he know if he does not know all the memeber in akatuski? we as the reader knows but he shouldn't

Also Danzou said that the only people who could control the tailed beast was shodai, madara, the 4th mizukage and killer bee. But we seen the 2 tails lead Hidan and Kakuzu into a secluded place and before doing 1 jutsu went full 2 tails. So I am under the impression that something else is going on and we don't know right now. the Raikage takes pride in the strength of his nation so he would quickly say we have 2 hosts who was able to control it. I don't trust the Raikage. something is up. Thoughts

[ChocoBar9]

What are you talking about?? :facepalm If was was involved with Orochimaru's then he is implicated in the deaths of the Hokage and the Kazekage. And its certainly treasonous to hold back critical troops when the village is under attack, even if he isn't directly responsible for Tsunade.

The difference is so far nothing that Sasuke has done has been at the expense of the village. And in fact he is responsible at least in part for removing several major threats to all of the villages.
During the meeting, the Raikage suggests that Danzo had some involvement in the invasion of Konoha, but nothing states or supports otherwise to the Raikage's accusation. That's irrelevant since he took out orchimaru for his own gain not for the village.

[Weapon_X]

kakashi used a seal jiraiya gave him on naruto to stop his transformation in the gaara rescue arc. cloud's jinchuuriki knowledge is considerably more advanced than konoha's so i wouldn't be surprised if they have some countermeasures.

It takes time, knowledge and skills to control Biju. And I don't think the Cloud would be experiences at controlling the Kyuubi. Bee must have tooken his time to control his Biju and he must have taught Yugito how to control hers. Sure, he can control any Biju but he needs the 3 above skills as listed in chapter 458. We have Madara for Kyuubi.

[DARK]

It takes time, knowledge and skills to control Biju. And I don't think the Cloud would be experiences at controlling the Kyuubi.

I don't think so either.

[Jadedmariner]

Maybe. He did take on team 7 solo. Granted, it wasn't a real fight but he did ok even for what it was.


Sasuke had Team 7 horrifically outclassed at that point. That's analogous to Ino or Tenten walking into the ninja academy and owning a bunch of students. It isn't very hard to defeat multiple opponents if they are epically weaker than you.

[KiSwordsman]

No... It just shows that Madara has one more thing over Sasuke. Honestly, I think it might be a foreshadowing that Sasuke will go blind... until he finally accepts what his Brother has done for him.

Until he starts living his life the right way... he will literally be in the darkness.

well dude, there is no right and wrong way to live life, there is only our own individual ways. If Sasuke chooses to stay on the path he's on, that would be his choice. At least he can say no one made that decision for him

[ChocoBar9]

I highly doubt naruto can go against the 5 kages anymore than sasuke can. If anything, I think sasuke has a better chance since he's more versatile (though in terms of raw strength sage mode gives naruto the edge). yeah, naruto beat pain but he had a bunch of things going for him that made the fight a bit lopsided in his favor (not to detract from his accomplishment, but it's the truth). i think it would be a team effort between taka, naruto, kakashi and yamato just to hold their own against 15 of the most talented shinobi in the world., and there's no guarantee sasuke will accept their help or even that kakashi and yamato wouldn't just grab naruto and run like a pair of bitches when they see what they're up against.
Why are we even haven't this pointless discussion? Since neither Naruto or Sasuke has went uo against kage-level ninja, yet another case of underestimating :facepalm

[Realtwisted]

It takes time, knowledge and skills to control Biju. And I don't think the Cloud would be experiences at controlling the Kyuubi. Bee must have tooken his time to control his Biju and he must have taught Yugito how to control hers. Sure, he can control any Biju but he needs the 3 above skills as listed in chapter 458. We have Madara for Kyuubi.

but Sasuke might...
this going be the best chapter for a while

[DARK]

Sasuke had Team 7 horrifically outclassed at that point. That's analogous to Ino or Tenten walking into the ninja academy and owning a bunch of students. It isn't very hard to defeat multiple opponents if they are epically weaker than you.

Sasuke defeated over a 1000 weakling ninja with little effort. So can he take on 5 Kage and 10 experienced Jonin? Don't know.

[ChocoBar9]

Sasuke had Team 7 horrifically outclassed at that point. That's analogous to Ino or Tenten walking into the ninja academy and owning a bunch of students. It isn't very hard to defeat multiple opponents if they are epically weaker than you.
What have you been smoking?

[DarkOni]

It seems as if this chapter is shaping up to be quite good, even though I can`t understand the sudden change of Shika and the others.
I mean Sasuke was a wanted criminal even before he tried to abduct killer bee and everyone put their trust in Naruto, that he will somehow manage to retrieve him. Now at all times with Tsunade being bedridden and Konoha in the middle of repairs they think of fighting Sasuke? Great timing...
As for Zetsu as an announcer: for me that could imply 2 things:

Madara/Tobi (I really don`t know if I can buy that yet) has a connection with Danzou and wants to create a diversion. (unlikely after what Zetsu said but well you never know..)
Creating a diversion part two, but to focus all attention on Sasuke while Madara/Tobi goes after Naruto and/or Killer Bee

[ChocoBar9]

Sasuke defeated over a 1000 weakling ninja with little effort. So can he take on 5 Kage and 10 experienced Jonin? Don't know.
Compare that to 5 kages, :eyeroll

[The_Drunk]

Actually he did it twice! And then Sasuke was rescued by yugo and karin, without them he would be already dead.



Well if Naruto goes Kyubimode there isn´t that much what they could do about it.

Dude he did it three times... the first was with the blades that stuck inside of him and Karin saved him, the second was when he gave him the horns and CS boy gave him some skin, the third was when the 8 tailed magablast that (upsettingly didn't kill waterboy) got blocked by waterboy. (should have killed him) Well maybe the third one is a toss up because it didn't kill waterboy but he did save Sasuke.

[Nicholas.Sama]

During the meeting, the Raikage suggests that Danzo had some involvement in the invasion of Konoha, but nothing states or supports otherwise to the Raikage's accusation. That's irrelevant since he took out orchimaru for his own gain not for the village.

it doesn't change the fact that the world benefited from sasuke's victories over orochimaru and deidara.

[Jadedmariner]

During the meeting, the Raikage suggests that Danzo had some involvement in the invasion of Konoha, but nothing states or supports otherwise to the Raikage's accusation. That's irrelevant since he took out orchimaru for his own gain not for the village.

Actually Danzou's own statements in prior chapters support the theory that he was involved in the invasion.

[ChocoBar9]

it doesn't change the fact that the world benefited from sasuke's victories over orochimaru and deidara.
From what?

[Jadedmariner]

it doesn't change the fact that the world benefited from sasuke's victories over orochimaru and deidara.

Itachi eliminated Orochimaru not Sasuke.

[DARK]

it doesn't change the fact that the world benefited from sasuke's victories over orochimaru and deidara.

Itachi sealed Orochimaru into an eternal genjutsu and Deidara blew himself up. Sasuke didn't officially defeat them.

[Jadedmariner]

Why are we even haven't this pointless discussion? Since neither Naruto or Sasuke has went uo against kage-level ninja, yet another case of underestimating :facepalm

Um...Pain wasn't Kage level? Not to mention he was virtually the Kage of Amegakure. I would also say that Killerbee is definitely more powerful than Gaara, however not sure that fight reflects well on Sasuke lol.

[ChocoBar9]

Actually Danzou's own statements in prior chapters support the theory that he was involved in the invasion.
He was silent the entire time, the only time he spoke was to explain Akatuski leader and who had the power to control their biju the accusation was the Raikage's

[Cykai]

Itachi eliminated Orochimaru not Sasuke.

no one knows that other than sasuke and madara/zetsu.

[DARK]

Um...Pain wasn't Kage level? Not to mention he was virtually the Kage of Amegakure. I would also say that Killerbee is definitely more powerful than Gaara, however not sure that fight reflects well on Sasuke lol.

We all know:
Killer Bee > Gaara.
KB was able to sweep Sasuke AND Team Hebi with little effort for the vast majority of the battle. And Sasuke > Gaara if he was able to defeat Orochimaru. I wonder how Akatsuki would have done against them.

[Nicholas.Sama]

Itachi eliminated Orochimaru not Sasuke.

thanks for setting me straight


Since neither Naruto or Sasuke has went uo against kage-level ninja,

pain and deidara are kage level


Itachi sealed Orochimaru into an eternal genjutsu and Deidara blew himself up. Sasuke didn't officially defeat them.

he blew himself up to kill sasuke and FAILED. that is the biggest loss in my book

[DARK]

he blew himself up to kill sasuke and FAILED. that is the biggest loss in my book

Yes, but Deidara killed himself. Sasuke did not kill him.

[Jadedmariner]

He was silent the entire time, the only time he spoke was to explain Akatuski leader and who had the power to control their biju the accusation was the Raikage's

I said prior chapters, not the prior chapter.


I was referring to this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/454/17/

[The_Drunk]

Naruto can easily hold his own against I'd say 3 Kages maybe even 4. now Sasuke should be able to handle two easily as well.... with his eye technique, but no more than two..... Well the point is that Sasuke will be surrounded by 5 Kages and jounins. He's got he's 3 goons that will provide support against the Jounins, but that won't be enough.... so you have Naruto will come to his defense that will bring Kakashi and Yamato.... that in itself is a team..... NARUTO AND KAKASHI are already HOKAGE level fighters... I don't know about Yamato, but I don't see why not. So now you have Naruto, Kakashi, Yamato, and Sasuke all Hokage level fighters.... going up against the 5 kages.... Come on guys... Ofcourse Sasuke's going to come out alive.

[Realtwisted]

Yes, but Deidara killed himself. Sasuke did not kill him.

is nah like Deidara had a choice, he din't have any jutsu left..

[DARK]

NARUTO AND KAKASHI are already HOKAGE level fighters... I don't know about Yamato, but I don't see why not. So now you have Naruto, Kakashi, Yamato, and Sasuke all Hokage level fighters.... going up against the 5 kages.... Come on guys... Ofcourse Sasuke's going to come out alive.

How are Kakashi and Yamato Hokage-level fighters?

[Ichiban D]

Itachi sealed Orochimaru into an eternal genjutsu and Deidara blew himself up. Sasuke didn't officially defeat them.

Getting someone to frustratingly kill themselves mentally means Sasuke defeated him.

[demons_halo]

can you guys stop talking about how many kages naruto / sauske can take on?
all we know is that gaara was pretty strong and naruto busted the shit out of him without any fancy techniques!
as for the rest of the kages, we don't know shit about them!
Just think for a moment, why do you guys think that the raikage is the raikage and not his brother?!?! he must be stronger, otherwise killerBee would have become the hokage -_- count with the rest of the kages as well...

[Nicholas.Sama]

How are Kakashi and Yamato Hokage-level fighters?

kakashi yes
yamato no

kakashi has a vast array of jutsu and is smarter than shikamaru
his name was the first put forth by anyone to kage after tsunade...i think thats enough evidence.

[Realtwisted]

Itachi sealed Orochimaru into an eternal genjutsu and Deidara blew himself up. Sasuke didn't officially defeat them.

Le't put it this way, who is in better condition after the fight?..:p

[The_Drunk]

I said prior chapters, not the prior chapter.


I was referring to this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/454/17/


You know what Danzo reminds me of..... He reminds me of those guys who aren't that good.... you know the villains that suck and look for ways to become more powerful. So he lost to the 3rd and realized dude I really suck. So he goes around stealing parts from other fighters. Like his right eye and his right arm that we haven't seen. Like the villains in the Naruto movies that really suck.... Now he's looking for Kabuto for his other parts that were promised to him by Oro... Like a Hinata's eye on his left side.... so he looks like an Alaskan husky that have the different colored eyes. Just thought I would throw that out there.

[donyusufahmed]

why can't madara just take itachi's eyes and get EMS?

[firesalamander]

Naruto can easily hold his own against I'd say 3 Kages maybe even 4. now Sasuke should be able to handle two easily as well.... with his eye technique, but no more than two..... Well the point is that Sasuke will be surrounded by 5 Kages and jounins. He's got he's 3 goons that will provide support against the Jounins, but that won't be enough.... so you have Naruto will come to his defense that will bring Kakashi and Yamato.... that in itself is a team..... NARUTO AND KAKASHI are already HOKAGE level fighters... I don't know about Yamato, but I don't see why not. So now you have Naruto, Kakashi, Yamato, and Sasuke all Hokage level fighters.... going up against the 5 kages.... Come on guys... Ofcourse Sasuke's going to come out alive.

Doubt Naruto will fight with Sasuke, he'd end up being a fugitive as well right?

[The_Drunk]

kakashi yes
yamato no

kakashi has a vast array of jutsu and is smarter than shikamaru
he name was the first put forth by anyone to kage after tsunade...i think thats enough evidence.

Ya I know that Yamato isn't Hokage level, but I'm sure he's stronger than one of those Kages.

[DARK]

Getting someone to frustratingly kill themselves mentally means Sasuke defeated him.

Really?

[The_Drunk]

Besides Konoha has the best fighters..... Everyone knows that!

[DARK]

kakashi yes
yamato no

kakashi has a vast array of jutsu and is smarter than shikamaru
he name was the first put forth by anyone to kage after tsunade...i think thats enough evidence.

I guess when you put it that way. Still, Kakashi failed to defeat any of the S-rank ninja he came across.

[The_Drunk]

why can't madara just take itachi's eyes and get EMS?

Dang for your first post you made more sense that some of these Veterans. My point exactly....

[firesalamander]

Dang for your first post you made more sense that some of these Veterans. My point exactly....

I thought he'd already got it from his brother. Somebody correct me

[narutokuro]

Creating a diversion part two, but to focus all attention on Sasuke while Madara/Tobi goes after Naruto and/or Killer Bee
[/LIST]

I def think this is a diverison on Zetsu's part. This will be exciting next week. I wonder how and when killer bee will come in?

[Nicholas.Sama]

I guess when you put it that way. Still, Kakashi failed to defeat any of the S-rank ninja he came across.

he gets put on S-Ranked missions all the time(off-screen)
also all 3 of the Sennin have given him praise at some point in the manga

[Realtwisted]

Besides Konoha has the best fighters..... Everyone knows that!

no Akatsuki has the best fighter..

[Nonlife]

Dang for your first post you made more sense that some of these Veterans. My point exactly....

I don't see how taking Itachi's eyes would help - the guy was going blind, and he already transfered his power to Sasuke.

[donyusufahmed]

no Akatsuki has the best fighter..

but they were all defeated by chunins (not sure about my spelling)

[DARK]

I thought he'd already got it from his brother. Somebody correct me

Itachi transplanted his dojutsu to Sasuke, not his eyes.

[Jothesh2]

He was silent the entire time, the only time he spoke was to explain Akatuski leader and who had the power to control their biju the accusation was the Raikage's

Well it seems that Danzou has a lot of explanation to do.
I hope Kishi clears this up soon.
I wonder what will sasuke do? I mean karin is going to sense when they come after them.

I want to see garaa vs sasuke rematch ! :D

[Realtwisted]

but they were all defeated by chunins (not sure about my spelling)

true, but they were nah macht of 1 vs 1.

[donyusufahmed]

I don't see how taking Itachi's eyes would help - the guy was going blind, and he already transfered his power to Sasuke.

he transferred eye techniques to sasuke, and sasuke still has MS, he needs Itachi's eyes to get EMS xcept there are still things Itachi and Madara don't know about the sharingan

[DARK]

but they were all defeated by chunins (not sure about my spelling)

Shikamaru is very intelligent for a Chunin, while Sakura had assistance from Chiyo, a jonin-level puppetmaster.

[Darth Executor]

It takes time, knowledge and skills to control Biju. And I don't think the Cloud would be experiences at controlling the Kyuubi. Bee must have tooken his time to control his Biju and he must have taught Yugito how to control hers. Sure, he can control any Biju but he needs the 3 above skills as listed in chapter 458. We have Madara for Kyuubi.

I didn't say anything about controlling a bijuu. suppressing one in a jinchuuriki is a different matter. Jiraiya could do it with a simple tag.

[Black Lagoon]

just saw the pic, is this Sakura crying again?? :err
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4898/zz0hx56b38.jpg

[Realtwisted]

Shikamaru is very intelligent for a Chunin, while Sakura had assistance from Chiyo, a jonin-level puppetmaster.

no to mention they were out number by Konoha ninja.

[Darth Executor]

why can't madara just take itachi's eyes and get EMS?

because itachi isn't madara's brother. or is he? *cue x-files music*

[DARK]

just saw the pic, is this Sakura crying again?? :err
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4898/zz0hx56b38.jpg

It looks like she stopped but still has tears running down her face.

[SenninSage]

She looks like the living dead in that picture. Let's hope it's a foreshadowing that she'll be getting impaled sometime in an upcoming chapter.

I'd like Zetsu to do it.

[Nonlife]

just saw the pic, is this Sakura crying again?? :err
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4898/zz0hx56b38.jpg

Her tears are drying in that pic - that's all.

[firesalamander]

Itachi transplanted his dojutsu to Sasuke, not his eyes.
My bad. I thought they were talking about Madara

[benelori]

he transferred eye techniques to sasuke, and sasuke still has MS, he needs Itachi's eyes to get EMS xcept there are still things Itachi and Madara don't know about the sharingan

I wonder what is there madara doesn't know about the sharingan

[Darth Executor]

Itachi eliminated Orochimaru not Sasuke.

oro's still around in kabuto. but anyway, sasuke's absorbing oro pretty much removed him from his position to harm the world, at least temporarily.

[donyusufahmed]

because itachi isn't madara's brother. or is he? *cue x-files music*

true. that would mean his looking for another method to restore his eyes. But Madara has not said anything about his eyes being damaged

[DARK]

She looks like the living dead in that picture. Let's hope it's a foreshadowing that she'll be getting impaled sometime in an upcoming chapter.

I'd like Zetsu to do it.

Why'd bash Sakura? She is already living in the shadow of the main characters.

[Thabor]

Itachi eliminated Orochimaru not Sasuke.

Not as far as the rest of the world is concerned. Orochimaru, Itachi, and Deidara would all be credited to Sasuke. Only Zetsu and perhaps Madara could say any different. If you've forgotten Suigetsu even sent the Orochimaru's prisoners out to spread that word that Sasuke had done it.

[Darth Executor]

true. that would mean his looking for another method to restore his eyes. But Madara has not said anything about his eyes being damaged

he said his goal is the ms after sasuke killed deidara while he was with pain, so obviously if that's his goal he doesn't have it anymore.

[Ichiban D]

Has all Sakura done this arc is cry? Sheesh....she better cry when she sees Naruto or she fails.

[benelori]

because itachi isn't madara's brother. or is he? *cue x-files music*

I keep seeing, and i think i suck now but where does it say that it must be a brother to have EMS

[DARK]

Has all Sakura done this arc is cry? Sheesh....she better cry when she sees Naruto or she fails.

When's the last time she did anything noteworthy?

[Jadedmariner]

oro's still around in kabuto. but anyway, sasuke's absorbing oro pretty much removed him from his position to harm the world, at least temporarily.

Meh that's like saying Uchiha Shusui is still around.

As far as Orochimaru goes he was in the position he was supposed to be in. Hiding inside Sasuke waiting for the right moment to take over his body. Itachi would not have gone to such great lengths to purge Orochimaru from Sasuke's body if he was not afraid of what was going to happen.
[hr]

When's the last time she did anything noteworthy?

She saved Hinata.

[benelori]

he said his goal is the ms after sasuke killed deidara while he was with pain, so obviously if that's his goal he doesn't have it anymore.

he is goal is restoring back his power, he reached ms on his own, if he would've lost it he can get it back. I think kyuubi drained him to a point where he lost an eye or something happened with his EMS, but his goal is not ms

[Jadedmariner]

I keep seeing, and i think i suck now but where does it say that it must be a brother to have EMS

Itachi states it during his fight with Sasuke. It was then confirmed by Madara that that was how he obtained his own EMS.

[DARK]

She saved Hinata.

Big whoop, she used medical ninjutsu.

[Realtwisted]

Itachi states it during his fight with Sasuke. It was then confirmed by Madara that that was how he obtained his own EMS.

Could it be the Sasuke going find his own way to get EMS without Itachi eye?

[DARK]

Could it be the Sasuke going find his own way to get EMS without Itachi eye?

He'll probably take Danzou's eye for all we know.

[Jimmothy]

Big whoop, she used medical ninjutsu.

Why do people brush aside medical ninjas?

[Jothesh2]

It looks like she stopped but still has tears running down her face.

she looks scary -_-

I think Naruto is going to tell her to stop, that he is doing on his own accord now or something of that nature.
I think in the end sasuke will give in

[DARK]

Why do people brush aside medical ninjas?

It's not a real "combat" skill. Sure you can heal yourself in battle but when was the last time Sakura actually fought in combat? 160 chapters ago?

[donyusufahmed]

he said his goal is the ms after sasuke killed deidara while he was with pain, so obviously if that's his goal he doesn't have it anymore.

he said his goal is to gain the sharingans true power

[DARK]

he said his goal is to gain the sharingans true power

Who are you talking about- Sasuke or Madara?

[donyusufahmed]

Could it be the Sasuke going find his own =way to get EMS without Itachi eye?

i thinks that's what going to happen.
If itachi didn't have to kill shiushi (not sure about the name) to get the MS, then there's a possibility

[devilitachi]

Why am I getting the feeling there is going to be vids popping out on youtube, with people crying and screaming to leave Sakura alone? Sigh...

[donyusufahmed]

Who are you talking about- Sasuke or Madara?

the strongest uchiha ever - madara

[lx468]

I have a question. So in the spoiler it mentions that Naruto knows about Sasuke being successful in killing Itachi and getting revenge. When exactly did that news reach Naruto/Konoha? I remember that it was Jiraiya who told Tsunade and co. that Sasuke killed Orochimaru, but I can't recall Naruto ever finding out about Itachi's death.

[KiSwordsman]

Big whoop, she used medical ninjutsu.

Oook what else was she supose to use?

lol, you phrased it like medical Ninjutsu is some cure all pill that you can just pull out of a cabinet and hand to someone

[DARK]

the strongest uchiha ever - madara

Madara said something about Moon Eye Plan.

[donyusufahmed]

I have a question. So in the spoiler it mentions that Naruto knows about Sasuke being successful in killing Itachi and getting revenge. When exactly did that news reach Naruto/Konoha? I remember that it was Jiraiya who told Tsunade and co. that Sasuke killed Orochimaru, but I can't recall Naruto ever finding out about Itachi's death.

when team kakashi was fighting tobi, right after sasuke and madara finished fighting and zetsu came to report
here
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/15/

[KiSwordsman]

I have a question. So in the spoiler it mentions that Naruto knows about Sasuke being successful in killing Itachi and getting revenge. When exactly did that news reach Naruto/Konoha? I remember that it was Jiraiya who told Tsunade and co. that Sasuke killed Orochimaru, but I can't recall Naruto ever finding out about Itachi's death.

it was during that joint mission with team 8 and 7

[The_Drunk]

no Akatsuki has the best fighter..

I'm sorry dude but a gennin from Konoha beat the Vice President of Akatsuki....LOL..

[DARK]

she looks scary -_-

I think Naruto is going to tell her to stop, that he is doing on his own accord now or something of that nature.
I think in the end sasuke will give in

Sakura doesn't look scary at all. Demented, not scary.

[Darth Executor]

he said his goal is to gain the sharingans true power

Yeah, the sharingan's true power, uchiha madara's power (IE: the EMS, that's the special power madara had)

Coupled with itachi saying he's only a shell of his former self and it's reasonable to assume he lost the ems.
[hr]

I'm sorry dude but a gennin from Konoha beat the Vice President of Akatsuki....LOL..

what does it matter if he's a genin? he's probably the strongest shinobi in konoha.

[DARK]

Yeah, the sharingan's true power, uchiha madara's power (IE: the EMS, that's the special power madara had)

Coupled with itachi saying he's only a shell of his former self and it's reasonable to assume he lost the ems.

It was mentioned that Madara needed the Kyubi's chakra to "restore" his eye.

[Realtwisted]

I'm sorry dude but a gennin from Konoha beat the Vice President of Akatsuki....LOL..

You mean Pein vs Konoha??
Pein fought every one from Konoha.

[The_Drunk]

Yeah, the sharingan's true power, uchiha madara's power (IE: the EMS, that's the special power madara had)

Coupled with itachi saying he's only a shell of his former self and it's reasonable to assume he lost the ems.
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what does it matter if he's a genin? he's probably the strongest shinobi in konoha.

It's a metaphor!!!!!! He said the Akatusuki had the best fighters. I said that a genin from Konoha beat the Vice president of Akatuski.... that like saying a kid from Konoha can beat there best. Do you get it?

[Razziel]

It was mentioned that Madara needed the Kyubi's chakra to "restore" his eye.

Where? :blink

[Darth Executor]

It's a metaphor!!!!!! He said the Akatusuki had the best fighters. I said that a genin from Konoha beat the Vice president of Akatuski.... that like saying a kid from Konoha can beat there best. Do you get it?

Umm, I got it, it's just a dumb thing to say because it implies naruto is some nobody and akatsuki sucks because their leader got plastered by a nobody. it's dishonest because it gives a false impression.

[galeno]

Yeah, I don't remeber that? Where it was mentioned?

Also, can anyone point number of the chapter where Shisui (how its written?) was last mentioned?

Thanks in advance.


Where? :blink

[Darth Executor]

all this bickering is annoying me. I want the chapter dammit.

[DARK]

Where? :blink

I remember somebody mentioning it somewhere in the manga. It's kinda fuzzy, but I believe either Madara or Jiraiya said this.

[The_Drunk]

You mean Pein vs Konoha??
Pein fought every one from Konoha. and he got his ass handed to him by a Genin.

Let me cut it short by breaking down the future dialog:::::

Realtwisted: So what if he's a Genin.. he's the strongest one in Konoha.
TheDrunk: But he's still a Genin.. and he beat Pein.
Realtwisted: Well that doesn't mean anything.
TheDrunk: Yes it does. It mean that Akatsuki doesn't have the strongest fighters because Konoha ninjas have been killing them off one by one.
Realtwisted: Your wrong!
TheDrunk: Whatever dude! Go back and read the manga and you'll see for yourself that Konoha ninjas have been killing them off one by one.
Realtwisted: No they didn't.
TheDrunk: Well, Shikamaru killed one, Naruto killed another, Sakura killed the puppet, Sasuke killed the one that blew himself up, and Naruto killed the vice president. Dang... what prof do you need?

This is the end of the future dialog to help shorten the conversation and end it.

[tyki1207]

Since danzou could not be tobi anymore, could it be that yagura is tobi?
because he was called by kisame as mizukage...
or yagura is a different person and has a unique eye doujutsu... cause his eye looks weird...

[Zachc2009]

it doesn't change the fact that the world benefited from sasuke's victories over orochimaru and deidara.


yeah, all of sasukes fights in part 2 have had good and bad results to them, for instance when naruto finds him and sasuke mops the floor with everyone, this made naruto learn rasenshuriken.

when he killed orochimaru he took a huge stress away from the leaf and set free all of orochimaru's experiments and hostages.

his fight with deidara pushed him to the edge and showed that he still has a lot of personal/powerful growth to do.

the meeting of destiny with itachi made sasuke feel fear for the first time in 3 years and he realised that with itachis death may come his own.

killerbees attempted capture saw sasuke rely on his team more then ever and sort of showed he does still care somewhat for his former teammates and brought about the main reason for the gathering of the 5 kages

you can see how kishi has made sasuke one of the main pillars for shippuden and i hope we see sasuke in a new light soon because i'm getting fed up of his 'i'm so badass' act

[LiL_JiRiyAya]

ok this is off topic but on the subject of the kyuubi if naruto only has half of the fox sealed in him were is the other half in the death gods belly with minato.


also when is yamato gonna get serious we have yet to see him fight only track people we don't even know that he is strong at all he just uses wood.

[DARK]

Since danzou could not be tobi anymore, could it be that yagura is tobi?
because he was called by kisame as mizukage...
or yagura is a different person and has a unique eye doujutsu... cause his eye looks weird...

That, or Madara was a separate Mizukage all together.

[Zachc2009]

ok this is off topic but on the subject of the kyuubi if naruto only has half of the fox sealed in him were is the other half in the death gods belly with minato.

probably thats what happened when Hiruzen sealed away oro's arms?

[tyki1207]

ok this is off topic but on the subject of the kyuubi if naruto only has half of the fox sealed in him were is the other half in the death gods belly with minato.

how could he have half, if he could produce 8 tails?

[DARK]

ok this is off topic but on the subject of the kyuubi if naruto only has half of the fox sealed in him were is the other half in the death gods belly with minato.

Yes, this is off topic. You could have put this in a separate thread.

[tyki1207]

That, or Madara was a separate Mizukage all together.

That wasn't said yet...

[Realtwisted]

and he got his ass handed to him by a Genin.

Let me cut it short by breaking down the future dialog:::::

Realtwisted: So what if he's a Genin.. he's the strongest one in Konoha.
TheDrunk: But he's still a Genin.. and he beat Pein.
Realtwisted: Well that doesn't mean anything.
TheDrunk: Yes it does. It mean that Akatsuki doesn't have the strongest fighters because Konoha ninjas have been killing them off one by one.
Realtwisted: Your wrong!
TheDrunk: Whatever dude! Go back and read the manga and you'll see for yourself that Konoha ninjas have been killing them off one by one.
Realtwisted: No they didn't.
TheDrunk: Well, Shikamaru killed one, Naruto killed another, Sakura killed the puppet, Sasuke killed the one that blew himself up, and Naruto killed the vice president. Dang... what prof do you need?

This is the end of the future dialog to help shorten the conversation and end it.

dude, dont you understand what the words mean being outnumber,..

Nagato vs Konoha"wtf everybody they had vs him"
If Nagato would had fight Naruto alone Naruto would be death, no one really won in the fight because Nagato decide to die" he say that he had the strenght to make a even bigger Chibaku Tensei.
Kakuzu and hidan vs 9 ninja of Konoha"Wow out number"
Sasori vs Choyo"grand" and Sakura""Outnumber, nah a fair fight"

[tyki1207]

dude, dont you understand what the words mean being outnumber,..

Nagato vs Konoha"wtf everybody they had vs him"
If Nagato would had fight Naruto alone Naruto would be death, no one really won in the fight because Nagato decide to die" he say that he had the strenght to make a even bigger Chibaku Tensei.
Kakuzu and hidan vs 9 ninja of Konoha"Wow out number"
Sasori vs Choyo"grand" and Sakura""Outnumber, nah a fair fight"

Ninjas, in the first place, were not made to fight fairly, they stab their enemies backs and make use of the advantage that they had, it's been used most of the time in naruto, but not always tho...

[DARK]

Ninjas, in the first place, were not made to fight fairly, they stab their enemies backs and make use of the advantage that they had, it's been used most of the time in naruto, but not always tho...

You can't really compare Naruto to real-life ninja except by their names.

[tyki1207]

You can't really compare Naruto to real-life ninja except by their names.

is there any law stating that?

in naruto they fought using their advantage, but in the end only one will finish things off, it's like a goalee against all players of the team then the striker finishes it off...

[redred]

how could he have half, if he could produce 8 tails?
naruto DOES have half the foxs chakra
i dont quite remember which half
but probly the yang since that fox in naruto is so mean :P

anyway, thats probably why his transformation is a mini fox and not a huge gigantic figure like the other beasts

[Yumekage]

Well, actually, I haven't seen any "HONOR!" moment in Naruto. I mean, oookay, the main character wears an orange outfit, likes to make an entrance and is overall LOUD - not to mention his nindo is never back down and everything that comes with those words, lol - but they all sent "fair play" to hell since the first chapter.

Like, Naruto's more ingenious tatics had Henge no Jutsu or other kind of trick. So, really, nobody can say they are samurai-like, 'cause they never were. Real life ninjas followed the concept "if a ninja is famous, his incompetent", but if the world's most reliable militar force were NINJAS, I guess that doesn't matter, right.

*anxious to see Iron Country samurai in action. Soon enough*

[Lord_Orochimaru]

naruto DOES have half the foxs chakra
i dont quite remember which half
but probly the yang since that fox in naruto is so mean :P

anyway, thats probably why his transformation is a mini fox and not a huge gigantic figure like the other beasts

the yin half was sealed away and he has the yang half but yea its probably why he is an minature

[The_Drunk]

dude, dont you understand what the words mean being outnumber,..

Nagato vs Konoha"wtf everybody they had vs him"
If Nagato would had fight Naruto alone Naruto would be death, no one really won in the fight because Nagato decide to die" he say that he had the strenght to make a even bigger Chibaku Tensei.
Kakuzu and hidan vs 9 ninja of Konoha"Wow out number"
Sasori vs Choyo"grand" and Sakura""Outnumber, nah a fair fight"

So basically what your saying was that the reason they lost was because they were outnumbered. Right! Let me be the first to tell you that stupidity is a weakness. If they were dumb enough to fight then they were strong physically but weak mentally. Instead of calling for reinforcements like celery head and Madara they died. So don't tell me they couldn't help there follow team members because they could have. Oh and about Naruto not winning and Nagato letting him live. I saw it differently than you. I saw Naruto take on all 6 of the Realms (all energized )and take them out one by one. I also saw a weak Nagato coughing up blood, sitting in a wheelchair with his Nurse waiting to clean his ass because he shit all over himself when Naruto pulled out the rod sticking in his chest. Then Naruto just wants to talk. I don't know about you but it doesn't look like Naruto's afraid of him.....I'm sure Naruto can take him out if he wanted too especially from that distance. What's Nagato going to do run him over with his wheel chair. This isn't scary movie 2... the guy isn't going to burn rubber in his wheel chair.

[Lord_Orochimaru]

So basically what your saying was that the reason they lost was because they were outnumbered. Right! Let me be the first to tell you that stupidity is a weakness. If they were dumb enough to fight then they were strong physically but weak mentally. Instead of calling for reinforcements like celery head and Madara they died. So don't tell me they couldn't help there follow team members because they could have. Oh and about Naruto not winning and Nagato letting him live. I saw it differently than you. I saw Naruto take on all 6 of the Realms (all energized )and take them out one by one. I also saw a weak Nagato coughing up blood, sitting in a wheelchair with his Nurse waiting to clean his ass because he shit all over himself when Naruto pulled out the rod sticking in his chest. Then Naruto just wants to talk. I don't know about you but it doesn't look like Naruto's afraid of him.....I'm sure Naruto can take him out if he wanted too especially from that distance. What's Nagato going to do run him over with his wheel chair. This isn't scary movie 2... the guy isn't going to burn rubber in his wheel chair.

ok we all know it is easier to kill someone that to capture him and if nagato wished to kill naruto he be good as dead and your not saying that nagato was at disadvantage ... and akatsuki moves with fear, as for instance shikamaru reactions when they anputated hidan and kakuzu not intefering... they arent a bunch of emotional weeklings and as stated before naruto was defeated when deva path nailed him to the ground

[The_Drunk]

ok we all know it is easier to kill someone that to capture him and if nagato wished to kill naruto he be good as dead and your not saying that nagato was and disadvantage ... and akatsuki moves with fear as for instance shikamaru reactions when they anputated hidan and kakuzu not intefering.

Did you see the same fight that I did. Naruto just wanted to talk to the real Pain. But Nagato kept trying to get him. So what happened next.... Naruto opened up a can of woop ass

[tyki1207]

naruto DOES have half the foxs chakra
i dont quite remember which half
but probly the yang since that fox in naruto is so mean :P

anyway, thats probably why his transformation is a mini fox and not a huge gigantic figure like the other beasts

That means the kyuubi inside naruto is incomplete?

[The_Drunk]

Bottom line.... who walked out of the fight. Just answer me that question. Because there is only one answer. You can try to twist it and say nnnnnawww because he let him and bla bla bla... but at the end of the day who came home to eat some Ramen, and who got rolled up in a roll of toilet paper. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE ISN'T IT. It hurts... but it's the truth....

[Lord_Orochimaru]

Did you see the same fight that I did. Naruto just wanted to talk to the real Pain. But Nagato kept trying to get him. So what happened next.... Naruto opened up a can of woop ass

he didnt wanted to talk to him untill he saw his father and even after that he was still pinned on the ground helplessly. another thing konoha capturing and akatsuki was totally out of the question they had 8 ninjas and still failed but akatsuki is doing it with 2 ninjas

[Yumekage]

the yin half was sealed away and he has the yang half but yea its probably why he is an minature

Just to confirm, yes, Minato sealed the YANG (negative) part of Kyuubi's chakra into his son, in a way that let the demon's energy merge with the infant and all that jazz. It's a confirmed fact, I think it was mentioned at least twice during the series.

@The_Drunk

I agree with you. One of the reasons Sound choosed to preserve the konohanins during the Four Tails Arc was because they knew the village would fight and perhaps kill the Akatsuki members. They were right, because Konoha did kill at least three of them - you people can say Deidara doesn't count because he commited suicide, but Sasuke is from Konoha, lol. Sort of. Not for long xD

Anyway, the truth is Konoha was the only ninja village beside Suna that fought directly against Akatsuki. All the deceased Akatsuki members fought Konoha nins, and Konoha killed almost all of them. The ones they didn't kill commited suicide, died on purpose or surrended and gave up their criminal lifes (Konan xD).

So, yeah, I agree with you, and will say more: they're ninjas, the rule is attack as unfairly as you can =D

[The_Drunk]

he didnt wanted to talk to him untill he saw his father and even after that he was still pinned on the ground helplessly. another thing konoha capturing and akatsuki was totally out of the question they had 8 ninjas and still failed but akatsuki is doing it with 2 ninjas
maybe Akatsuki should have teams of 6 whenever they go up against Konoha ninjas right. Maybe you should email them and hopefully they'll change there strategy.

[Jothesh2]

naruto did not woop on Nagato.
Nagato didnt even use katos, suiton, raiton, doton, fuuton jutsu's, or that dragon that kills anyone automatic, so its safe to assume he never went 100% against naruto

[tatsudoshi]

I keep seeing, and i think i suck now but where does it say that it must be a brother to have EMS

It never actually states that it has to be your brothers eyes in order to obtain EMS.

Itachi (http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-386/page009.html) told Sasuke that the exchange of eyes could only be done between clansmen and he stated that "simply gaining another's eyes didn't equate to gain this power", meaning an exchange of normal sharingan eyes wouldn't give you this power; so IMO I believe the exchange as to be done with both clansmen having MS.

Now, to your question does it have to be a brothers eyes in order to obtain EMS? Well, I don't actually know, and the only thing anyone can do is speculate and assume. I'd say yes, it does have to be an exchange between two brothers with MS in order to gain EMS, but it never actually states that, so we all just speculate because the only person in existence to gain EMS was Madara; and he obtained 'this power' by taking his brothers eyes, hence why everybody assumes it has to be done this way.

[Lord_Orochimaru]

predictions: my predictions or almost definitely wrong lol but i dont see danzou just sitting and keeping his mouth shut, look at the way fu and torune are shielding him now they were preparing for something but zetsu interupted and as for zetsu appearing in the middle of the kage meeting... never expected that either what next for naruto and sasuke, sasuke after realising the situation hear only option is to flee if he is spotted ... maybe he would fight off 2 r 3 but he has samurais and ninjas to deal with but madara wouldnt have him kill so thats his only way out

[lionrider]

maybe Akatsuki should have teams of 6 whenever they go up against Konoha ninjas right. Maybe you should email them and hopefully they'll change there strategy.

Haha.. what you don't consider Akatsuki as class S missing nin.. hidan and kakazu who are immortals need 4 more comrades? come on man.. thats overpower..

besides akatsuki members don't get along all too much..

[The_Drunk]

anyways... this is getting old... and I'm tired of people trying to justify the losses of Akatsuki members by the hands of Konoha ninjas. This all started with a comment. Akatsuki members are stronger than Konoha ninjas. It's pointless.... I guess there is always someone who thinks the opposite. They always try to come up with a counterpoint. What they fail to realize is the final outcome because that's all that matters. If Naruto was defeat by Pain and carried away in a roll of toilet paper then we wouldn't be having this discussion. I would whole hardly agree with you. But that isn't the case. Trying to come up with different reasons for Pain letting Naruto win is just plain imaginary. Pain lost and thats the end of it. I'm out of this discussion...

[sarutobi_sensei]

I know I'm not a mod or anything, but why the hell are you talking about Naruto vs Nagato? Ain't there a zone for that already?

Regarding the chapter, has the RAW come out yet? I've seen something that looks like a RAW but I didn't download it x)

[lionrider]

naruto did not woop on Nagato.
Nagato didnt even use katos, suiton, raiton, doton, fuuton jutsu's, or that dragon that kills anyone automatic, so its safe to assume he never went 100% against naruto

yeah i agree with that but because nagato made a mistake and has this stubbornness using big shinra tensei which make his chakra to 3/4..

Nagato died like kakashi.. no chakra means death in narutoverse..

[tyki1207]

Haha.. what you don't consider Akatsuki as class S missing nin.. hidan and kakazu who are immortals need 4 more comrades? come on man.. thats overpower..

besides akatsuki members don't get along all too much..

plus their number is not enough to have teams of 6...

[Yumekage]

naruto did not woop on Nagato.
Nagato didnt even use katos, suiton, raiton, doton, fuuton jutsu's, or that dragon that kills anyone automatic, so its safe to assume he never went 100% against naruto

Well, he couldn't go 100% against Naruto. If he used the Gedo Mazou thingie, Naruto AND Kyuubi would die Final Fantasy: Spirits Within style; if he really fought Rin'negan-I-Have-All-The-Chakra-Natures, he would have a heart attack or something, losing to much chakra.

And, let's be honest here: Naruto is like the metaphorical croach. He has an amazing stamina, lots of chakra, resistant body, not to mention the strongest bijuu trapped inside his stomach. He does not die easily, and before Nagato punched the boy enough to kidnap him, well, he would not live enough to achieve that.

That considering, of course, Naruto wouldn't fight back with his new overpower Sennin plus Kyuubi style =D

(People, let's go back to the chapter discussion lol. I mean, the knew game, Hide-And-Seek Kage version o/).

[tyki1207]

naruto did not woop on Nagato.
Nagato didnt even use katos, suiton, raiton, doton, fuuton jutsu's, or that dragon that kills anyone automatic, so its safe to assume he never went 100% against naruto

That's because nagato could use techniques stronger than what you've said, like a kekei genkai... plus his eyes could do any technique...

and what's that dragon you're talking about?

[Realtwisted]

yeah i agree with that but because nagato made a mistake and has this stubbornness using big shinra tensei which make his chakra to 3/4..

Nagato died like kakashi.. no chakra means death in narutoverse..

i desagree with you, Nagato him self say that he could make a even bigger shinra tensei, he had a lot more chkara.

[Lord_Orochimaru]

That's because nagato could use techniques stronger than what you've said, like a kekei genkai... plus his eyes could do any technique...

and what's that dragon you're talking about?

the dragon is the summon he uses to seal the beast the same one he use against hanzo and danzo. it isnt a dragon but he realeses dragons from its mouth

[Yumekage]

and what's that dragon you're talking about?

I think he was refering to the summon that collect souls 8D

Anyway, people, I don't know if this issue was discussed here, already, because, dude, 90 pages are many pages xD, but... Do you guys also got the feeling that:

1. Ao was talking about Shisui's Mangenkyou Sharingan.
2. Ao was talking about each Uchiha having a diferent Sharingan Power /powerrangers xD
3. Ao was talking about one jutsu in particular.

?

[Lord_Orochimaru]

I think he was refering to the summon that collect souls 8D

Anyway, people, I don't know if this issue was discussed here, already, because, dude, 90 pages are many pages xD, but... Do you guys also got the feeling that:

1. Ao was talking about Shisui's Mangenkyou Sharingan.
2. Ao was talking about each Uchiha having a diferent Sharingan Power /powerrangers xD
3. Ao was talking about one jutsu in particular.

?

dont think it was stated he was talking bout Shisui's Mangenkyou Sharingan but so far it is only mangenkyou that has special unique abilities so wont say it is wrong to assume that but yea we know each uchiha has a different power wen activated their mangenkyou

[tyki1207]

I think he was refering to the summon that collect souls 8D

Anyway, people, I don't know if this issue was discussed here, already, because, dude, 90 pages are many pages xD, but... Do you guys also got the feeling that:

1. Ao was talking about Shisui's Mangenkyou Sharingan.
2. Ao was talking about each Uchiha having a diferent Sharingan Power /powerrangers xD
3. Ao was talking about one jutsu in particular.

?

maybe the sharingan has different powers for different persons since the appearrances mangkyou are different for each user...

[Yumekage]

Well, I also guessed it would have something to do with Shisui's Mangenkyou Sharingan, but it could also be something his normal Sharingan had, or a special jutsu. Nonetheless, what is really, really bugging me is the whole story regarding Itachi, Shisui, the Mangenkyou and Shisui's supposed suicide.
-
'Cause, well, now we have this bizarre case of chimaerism @___@ And it's all interwined...

[Darth Executor]

yea we know each uchiha has a different power wen activated their mangenkyou

No we don't. Itachi and sasuke had the same ones so far. Kakashi had a different one, but he's not an uchiha so that might affect what jutsu he gets.
[hr]

Well, I also guessed it would have something to do with Shisui's Mangenkyou Sharingan, but it could also be something his normal Sharingan had, or a special jutsu. Nonetheless, what is really, really bugging me is the whole story regarding Itachi, Shisui, the Mangenkyou and Shisui's supposed suicide.
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'Cause, well, now we have this bizarre case of chimaerism @___@ And it's all interwined...

I don't think it's chimerism. ao just said danzou's chakra is like shisui's. so he probably just took his eye. maybe his arm too if he needed a new one.

[Lord_Orochimaru]

[QUOTE=Darth Executor;1503953]No we don't. Itachi and sasuke had the same ones so far. Kakashi had a different one, but he's not an uchiha so that might affect what jutsu he gets.
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ok they both had ameratsu and tsukuyomi, itachi also had susaano and sasuke is yet to reveal his 3rd 1 the 1 he wanted to try out and itachi him self said that 3 techniques awaken that day 1 which was unique only to him

[Darth Executor]

and itachi him self said that 3 techniques awaken that day 1 which was unique only to him

Where does itachi say 1 is unique only to him?

[SenninSage]

Wow! Chapter looks extremely exciting.

The way those young Konoha nin are gathered, you can tell that they're going to be seeing some serious action! Can't wait to see Neji in action again. He's one of this manga's best characters, both in terms of combat style and in terms of his character development. He has been influenced by Naruto in a pretty significant way since being defeated by him. That puts Neji in a fairly exclusive and impressive group of serious shinobi talent. Gaara, Neji, Nagato, Konan and Kabuto.

They are all shinobi that have, in some form, had their new path and motivation in life carved out by their experience with Naruto.

I also really want to see some Shino and Rock lee action as well. I'd love to see just how far those 2 have really come.

It would be pretty exciting to see what Hinata can do as well if she sees some serious action because lord knows her fight against Pain had many possible endings, all of which were bad for Hinata.

Another good thing about this chapter is that I see Naruto is doing some very serious thinking about what Sasuke has become, and it looks like he has finally made his decision on what to do about him.

Fu and Torune look pretty damn cool standing at the ready in front of Danzou. Zetsu's entrance was pretty damn epic. Gaara and Danzou seem fairly shocked at the end there; I wonder what's going on? Just what on earth could Madara have planned and how will all the Kage react to it.

I'd absolutely love it if Naruto, Kakashi and Yamato weren't too far away and heard the commotion.

I'm so disappointed there won't a chapter next week :(
[hr]

Where does itachi say 1 is unique only to him?

Yea, Itachi never said such a thing. It is only assumed, based on what Zetsu said, that the mythical items that were in Itachi's possession when he used Susanoo could be unique to Itachi, but we don't know for sure.

Perhaps they are just common accessories for any Uchiha that uses Susanoo, but I have my doubts about that due to what Zetsu said.

[donyusufahmed]

we all forgot about kabuchimaru
he also might decide to crash the kage party next chapter!!

[Lord_Orochimaru]

yea your right it was not stated but wasnt it discuss here that it was unique to him

[Osprey]

Wow! Chapter looks extremely exciting.

The way those young Konoha nin are gathered, you can tell that they're going to be seeing some serious action!
There is no one to really fight at the moment. Shikamaru either will go with Sakura to speak to Naruto at the Summit, or wait for Sakura to speak with him.

They are not going to move until Naruto is okay with it. A better chance for action is them getting involved in this war that is likely to spill out from the Summit. At least we know Kishi will feature them again.

Is Shikamaru still a chuunin? Cause jounin Neji treats him like he is his superior.

[eternalshiva]

Looks like Shika's really struggling with his decision to protect Konoha and go against Naruto.

Innerresting

[SenninSage]

There is no one to really fight at the moment. Shikamaru either will go with Sakura to speak to Naruto at the Summit, or wait for Sakura to speak with him.

They are not going to move until Naruto is okay with it. A better chance for action is them getting involved in this war that is likely to spill out from the Summit. At least we know Kishi will feature them again.

Is Shikamaru still a chuunin? Cause jounin Neji treats him like he is his superior.

Neji just has a great deal of respect for Shikamaru and who wouldn't?

Even the legendary Copy Ninja Kakashi has shown that even he is willing to let Shikamaru take the reigns and lay out the strategy. If even Kakashi respects Shikamaru that much, then it goes without saying that Neji will respect him as well. This by no means suggests that they feel they are inferior, but there is no denying Shikamaru's talents.

[M3J]

I think Sasuke's gonna die either way, but by who, who knows? Doubt the current chuunins or Neji can do anything though, easily enough anyway. Neji stands the most chance in my opinion. WOuld be interesting to see what they do and how they try to do it. Though they talk about offing Sasuke, would they try their best to capture him?
Shikamaru doesn't have to be higher ranked than Neji or anyone else to be treated like a superior. He's highly respected, ranks don't always mean much as long as there's respect. In my opinion, Shikamaru's earned it.

[Darth Executor]

Neji's the least likely to kill sasuke after naruto. the only truly bad thing sasuke did was kidnap killerbee, and neji's not exactly fond of the cloud.

I'm pissed off that we didn't get hinata (and to a lesser extent, choji, lee, ten ten, shino and neji)'s opinion on what to do about sasuke. I wish kishi would develop them more. oh well, if he cant' be bothered to develop a main character like sakura I guess it's pointless to expect him to develop someone like choji or ino.

[donyusufahmed]

i think sasuke gonna be heading back to konoha pretty soon

[Darth Executor]

I don't. I think he'll get beat and run to madara for more power.

[donyusufahmed]

i highly doubt it, his not stupid enough to take on 5 kages and knowing the Zetsu's gone, he probably plans on bolting.
He would have to take out Danzo another day

[Jye24_Nindo]

Neji's the least likely to kill sasuke after naruto. the only truly bad thing sasuke did was kidnap killerbee, and neji's not exactly fond of the cloud.

I'm pissed off that we didn't get hinata (and to a lesser extent, choji, lee, ten ten, shino and neji)'s opinion on what to do about sasuke. I wish kishi would develop them more. oh well, if he cant' be bothered to develop a main character like sakura I guess it's pointless to expect him to develop someone like choji or ino.

Sounds very cheeky and sorta humorous but blatantly wrong. He's developing Sakura right now. You glossed over it.

Her fighting skills may be laking now but Sakura is very much like Naruto. Her victories don't depend on skill like Sasuke's victories do. Like Naruto, she depends on pure grit and determination (Ino fight, Sasori fight, the old chuunin exams, etc.) That is how she gets down.

Of course you're probably just a hater for the sake of hating so whats the point.

[SenninSage]

Others may not be sure or may have doubts, but there is zero doubt in my mind that Neji can fight Sasuke on equal footing taking him the entire distance.

Anybody that saw his power and talent back during the chuunin exam and then his level of skill during the rescue Sasuke arc will know that there is no way he gets into a fight and isn't a serious threat to his opponent, especially since it's clear that he has grown by leaps and bounds since then because he made it all the way to Jounin.

People will have their differing opinions on how powerful Neji is, but I know with 100% certainty that he is one of the most powerful shinobi in this entire manga. He's up there with Naruto and Sasuke. He has been setup to be that way from the very beginning. Even Gaara was impressed by his power as he watched him in action. Just because Gaara lost to Naruto and then lost to Deidara, I don't for a second think that means that Gaara couldn't take Naruto the distance. Gaara and Sasuke would be an even more awesome fight than the last time they met.

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Sounds very cheeky and sorta humorous but blatantly wrong. He's developing Sakura right now. You glossed over it.

Her fighting skills may be laking now but Sakura is very much like Naruto. Her victories don't depend on skill like Sasuke's victories do. Like Naruto, she depends on pure grit and determination (Ino fight, Sasori fight, the old chuunin exams, etc.) That is how she gets down.

Of course you're probably just a hater for the sake of hating so whats the point.

Naruto has always had tremendous amounts of skill, people just never bothered to pay attention :)

[M3J]

Neji's the least likely to kill sasuke after naruto. the only truly bad thing sasuke did was kidnap killerbee, and neji's not exactly fond of the cloud.

I'm pissed off that we didn't get hinata (and to a lesser extent, choji, lee, ten ten, shino and neji)'s opinion on what to do about sasuke. I wish kishi would develop them more. oh well, if he cant' be bothered to develop a main character like sakura I guess it's pointless to expect him to develop someone like choji or ino.

I doubt it. Sakura and Shikamaru are the least likely, Shikamaru mostly for Naruto. Neji has the most potential though, that's what I meant. Rock Lee probably lost his only advantage when Sasuke trained for his match against Gaara. Choji is an idiot, and so is Kiba, apparently. Shikamaru doesn't have the stamina or combative ability to fight Sasuke.

Shikamaru either likes Naruto that much or highly respects him, but Naruto is basically on his good books now. He admits Naruto inspires him.

[laughing@you]

Naruto has always had tremendous amounts of skill, people just never bothered to pay attention :)

Thats why his called a genious?..:facepalm

Thats right...i'm back!!!!

I say zetsu will go boom boom.

And put the blame on sasuke!!! Sasuke becomes an even more public enemy. Sasuke has no one to depend on except for madara.

[SenninSage]

I doubt it. Sakura and Shikamaru are the least likely, Shikamaru mostly for Naruto. Neji has the most potential though, that's what I meant. Rock Lee probably lost his only advantage when Sasuke trained for his match against Gaara. Choji is an idiot, and so is Kiba, apparently. Shikamaru doesn't have the stamina or combative ability to fight Sasuke.

Shikamaru either likes Naruto that much or highly respects him, but Naruto is basically on his good books now. He admits Naruto inspires him.

Never forget Rock Lee's gates. That makes him a threat to anyone, but more than that, there's no way he hasn't gotten faster and he can maintain his amazing speed for a much longer period of time than Sasuke can. Judging by the fact that such incredible speed doesn't seem nearly as natural for Sasuke as it does for Rock Lee once he removes the weights.

His body seems far more use to the speed. It's possible that Lee is even capable of unlocking even more gates now. And one other very important thing, Drunk Rock Lee ;)

There is limitless potential for Lee when he fights using that style and I hope Kishi gives us some more of that before all is said and done. It's just too good to pass on. Shikamaru doesn't have the straight up combat ability as some have said to match someone like Sasuke, but his intelligence and incredible strategic thinking isn't something we can overlook.

The rest can't hope to challenge Sasuke besides Sai or Shino. Sai's abilities and power has Danzou's confidence. That's no small thing. Shino has just always been incredibly powerful and we still don't know just how powerful he truly is. We can't doubt someone like him.

Perhaps Chouji's Burn Chouji form would really be a problem and push the better shinobi's, but I'm not sure. I know Chouji isn't entirely useless, but he's just not as clean and polished as the rest.

[elitefox]

Thats why his called a genious?..:facepalm

Thats right...i'm back!!!!

I say zetsu will go boom boom.

And put the blame on sasuke!!! Sasuke becomes an even more public enemy. Sasuke has no one to depend on except for madara.

I don't think he is a genius but a naturally gifted person with lots of lots of lots of potential, good thing kakashi took care of him :D
Though kakashi thought sasuke has more potential and naruto <b>surprisingly</b> prove him wrong, unexpected from the number 1 ninja of surprise :D

yeah sasuke might become more power hungry finding out he is outclass :D and btw he said madara is next to his list but why did he detour, scaredy cat:blink

[Kaizoku-O Luffy]

In my opinion it doesn't matter whether sasuke comes to konoha or not. whether he is a criminal or not. Whether ninjas like him or not. without sasuke's help there is no way any shinobi can defeat madara. I think even naruto will need big help if he is to defeat madara.

[laughing@you]

Never forget Rock Lee's gates. That makes him a threat to anyone, but more than that, there's no way he hasn't gotten faster and he can maintain his amazing speed for a much longer period of time than Sasuke can. Judging by the fact that such incredible speed doesn't seem nearly as natural for Sasuke as it does for Rock Lee once he removes the weights.

His body seems far more use to the speed. It's possible that Lee is even capable of unlocking even more gates now. And one other very important thing, Drunk Rock Lee ;)

There is limitless potential for Lee when he fights using that style and I hope Kishi gives us some more of that before all is said and done. It's just too good to pass on. Shikamaru doesn't have the straight up combat ability as some have said to match someone like Sasuke, but his intelligence and incredible strategic thinking isn't something we can overlook.

The rest can't hope to challenge Sasuke besides Sai or Shino. Sai's abilities and power has Danzou's confidence. That's no small thing. Shino has just always been incredibly powerful and we still don't know just how powerful he truly is. We can't doubt someone like him.

Perhaps Chouji's Burn Chouji form would really be a problem and push the better shinobi's, but I'm not sure. I know Chouji isn't entirely useless, but he's just not as clean and polished as the rest.

Thats nice. But you forget this is sasuke you are talking about. Sasuke with his super sharingan outclasses anybody on that group. Probably neji can put up a good defense, but thats it. Without mentioning sasuke's backup are no pushovers either.

[Darth Executor]

In my opinion it doesn't matter whether sasuke comes to konoha or not. whether he is a criminal or not. Whether ninjas like him or not. without sasuke's help there is no way any shinobi can defeat madara. I think even naruto will need big help if he is to defeat madara.

We don't even know what Madara can do. How do you know nobody can beat him without Sasuke's help?
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Anybody that saw his power and talent back during the chuunin exam and then his level of skill during the rescue Sasuke arc will know that there is no way he gets into a fight and isn't a serious threat to his opponent, especially since it's clear that he has grown by leaps and bounds since then because he made it all the way to Jounin.


Actually the only thing that's "clear" is that he got a lame air palm attack. That's all. Neji's "growth" was a joke. Kishi took a potentially powerful character and turned him into a sissy. Just look at his performance vs a 30% kisame. It was a disgrace. All he did was break out of a water prison that was made by a water clone. That raises him to Sasuke level even though Sasuke took out an akatsuki on his own?

[laughing@you]

I don't think he is a genius but a naturally gifted person with lots of lots of lots of potential, good thing kakashi took care of him :D
Though kakashi thought sasuke has more potential and naruto <b>surprisingly</b> prove him wrong, unexpected from the number 1 ninja of surprise :D

yeah sasuke might become more power hungry finding out he is outclass :D and btw he said madara is next to his list but why did he detour, scaredy cat:blink

Don't get me wrong to me naruto is the man. I just don't consider him a genious.

Back on topic, anybody here thinks that sakura won't acknowledge the groups decision? the panel with her closing her fist seems kinda defiant.


Maybe sakura will become a villain. She decides to mainpulate naruto to get sasuke back. Obsessed much?...

[HPTR Fangirl]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Important information from NF


Shounen Jump is taking a break so no new chapter until August 19/20/21.

[KiSwordsman]

We don't even know what Madara can do. How do you know nobody can beat him without Sasuke's help?

I'm guessing he's going by the thing itachi said in part one "only a sharingan user can beat another sharingan user" or something to that effect

[Darth Executor]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Important information from NF


Shounen Jump is taking a break so no new chapter until August 19/20/21.

we've known for over a week. :p

[M3J]

Never forget Rock Lee's gates. That makes him a threat to anyone, but more than that, there's no way he hasn't gotten faster and he can maintain his amazing speed for a much longer period of time than Sasuke can. Judging by the fact that such incredible speed doesn't seem nearly as natural for Sasuke as it does for Rock Lee once he removes the weights.
The gates are double-edged sword though. If he doesn't succeed after opening them, he's probably lost. Sasuke has also gotten fast and can avoid and/or predict Rock Lee's move and react accordingly. Sasuke doesn't need to constantly move as fast as Rock Lee, and Sasuke has trained hard, so he might be able to keep up the speed for longer.


His body seems far more use to the speed. It's possible that Lee is even capable of unlocking even more gates now. And one other very important thing, Drunk Rock Lee ;)

There is limitless potential for Lee when he fights using that style and I hope Kishi gives us some more of that before all is said and done. It's just too good to pass on. Shikamaru doesn't have the straight up combat ability as some have said to match someone like Sasuke, but his intelligence and incredible strategic thinking isn't something we can overlook.
But unlocking more gates will really take the hell outta Rock Lee, and he can't risk it, not yet anyway, not without backup or medic nin. But yeah, drunk Rock Lee would probably do pretty well against Sasuke. xD Unpredictable.
The potential isn't unlimited, but he can make Lee go very far with it. Taijutsu can only be taken further, yet we haven't seen as much taijutsu.
Exactly, but it won't do as much good against Sasuke, who's also intelligent enough and has good strategic thinking. He also has more chakra to spare and is good at taijutsu and ninjutsu. His genjutsu isn't as bad either. Sasuke can do midrange and longrange, but Shikamaru doesn't have enough chakra to do midrange for very long. If Shikamaru had a little more combat ability though, even really tiny, he probably would be on nearly equal footing, if not equal, with Sasuke.


The rest can't hope to challenge Sasuke besides Sai or Shino. Sai's abilities and power has Danzou's confidence. That's no small thing. Shino has just always been incredibly powerful and we still don't know just how powerful he truly is. We can't doubt someone like him.

Perhaps Chouji's Burn Chouji form would really be a problem and push the better shinobi's, but I'm not sure. I know Chouji isn't entirely useless, but he's just not as clean and polished as the rest.

Shino isn't as powerful, in my opinion, as stated, but intelligent enough and he has bugs. Bugs are scary. X_x
He's mostly useless though, without the pills anyway. That's just my opinion though. Raw power isn't the best way to go on about things without intelligence or cunning, what Naruto has, what Sasuke has.

[philixus1988]

Personally i belong to the club that says 'Madara is setting up sasuke so that he can show sasuke that he is not all that powerful to go after people he wants to go after so that he asks madara to give him more power'
Personally i am of the opinion that sasuke got lucky with itachi but naruto did not with pain. Naruto right now is above sasuke atm with his sage mode.
BTW you guys remember that jiraiya sealed ameterasu when he trapped itachi and kisame in the frog belly... or was it esophagus. I personally think that naruto is carrying scrolls like that for the exact same purpose coz he knew or felt that there might be chance that he will see ameterasu in his fight against sasuke. So if he is carrying that i do think that there is a chance that he might neutralize sasuke's ameterasu advantage but what to do of his genjutsu advantage.

P.S Just how freaking powerful was the first hokage to beat madara at the height of his powers lol i do think that shodai rather than minato was the most powerful hokage.

[Darth Executor]

Personally i am of the opinion that sasuke got lucky with itachi but naruto did not with pain. Naruto right now is above sasuke atm with his sage mode.

I disagree with both assessments.

First, they both got lucky. Sasuke because itachi was planning on letting him win and Naruto because he got to start the fight without expanding any chakra to summon frogs and facing a pain whose god realm wasn't functioning, not to mention that naruto knew what pain's abilities were while pain had to learn by losing bodies. he was also lucky a hot chick with big boobs triggered the kyuubi release or pain would've dragged him back to an akatsuki hideout and killed him with the ritual.

Second, while I think that overall naruto is stronger, sasuke's the rock to naruto's scissors. Based on what we know of naruto's abilities tsukuyomi and amaterasu would destroy him and there's nothing he can do about it. he can block kirin by using the FRS as a shield but I doubt sasuke would bother with kirin in the first place. The only wild card is itachi's power, but without knowing what it is i can't really factor it in.


Oh, and i agree with the original assessment: that madara is setting sasuke up for failure so he can ask for more power.

[donyusufahmed]

what's the moon eye plan?

[Ryodraco]

P.S Just how freaking powerful was the first hokage to beat madara at the height of his powers lol i do think that shodai rather than minato was the most powerful hokage.
Keep in mind Madara likely did not have his phasing powers then as there is no record of them. In many ways Madara could be stronger now than he was then. Furthermore Shodai had natural advantage over one of Madara's best weapons thanks to his ability to control bijuu.

[Darth Executor]

what's the moon eye plan?

We don't know.

[Nicholas.Sama]

I disagree with both assessments.

First, they both got lucky. Sasuke because itachi was planning on letting him win and Naruto because he got to start the fight without expanding any chakra to summon frogs and facing a pain whose god realm wasn't functioning, not to mention that naruto knew what pain's abilities were while pain had to learn by losing bodies. he was also lucky a hot chick with big boobs triggered the kyuubi release or pain would've dragged him back to an akatsuki hideout and killed him with the ritual.

Second, while I think that overall naruto is stronger, sasuke's the rock to naruto's scissors. Based on what we know of naruto's abilities tsukuyomi and amaterasu would destroy him and there's nothing he can do about it. he can block kirin by using the FRS as a shield but I doubt sasuke would bother with kirin in the first place. The only wild card is itachi's power, but without knowing what it is i can't really factor it in.


Oh, and i agree with the original assessment: that madara is setting sasuke up for failure so he can ask for more power.

also keep in mind that pain was fighting to capture naruto, not to kill him

[donyusufahmed]

We don't know.

that was pretty blunt, you think it has any connections with madara's current orders with zetsu?
maybe with sasuke being hunted by the leader's of the 5 nations, madara could easily pick out naruto whose currently out of the hidden leaf village.

[elitefox]

I'm guessing he's going by the thing itachi said in part one "only a sharingan user can beat another sharingan user" or something to that effect

with that on mind, sasuke is a sharingan user, does that mean naruto can't beat him or itachi gave him a curse sharingan eye.
just can't imagine what will happen to naruto's eye though (fox + frog + sharigan omg):darn

itachi is godlike, he can do anything at his will. even give his powers to everyone he likes:p

[Gunther1]

You know how we found out that Danzo used his stolen sharingan on Mifune, which most likely influenced his decision that Danzo should head the alliance....well...that now makes sense how and why Danzo was elected to be the Hokage, actually its damn obvious seeing especially how quickly it occured, and easily for the Fire Lord to make his decision.

[M3J]

We don't even know what Madara can do. How do you know nobody can beat him without Sasuke's help?
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Actually the only thing that's "clear" is that he got a lame air palm attack. That's all. Neji's "growth" was a joke. Kishi took a potentially powerful character and turned him into a sissy. Just look at his performance vs a 30% kisame. It was a disgrace. All he did was break out of a water prison that was made by a water clone. That raises him to Sasuke level even though Sasuke took out an akatsuki on his own?

We haven't really seen him fight though. Neji, Rock, and Tenten got captured mostly to show a powerful attack by Gai, show how strong he is. Or reinforce it, if you rather. Evidently Kisame thought they were good enough to have imprisoned them. We gotta remember, Sasuke was basically a free man, Neji still had missions to do. And we didn't get as much focus on him as we did Akatsuki, Narut, and Sasuke.

[ChocoBar9]

also keep in mind that pain was fighting to capture naruto, not to kill him
You forget the sheer fact that Itachi was gunning to kill Sasuke neither :eyeroll

[Ryodraco]

i desagree with you, Nagato him self say that he could make a even bigger shinra tensei, he had a lot more chkara.
You're talking about Chibaku Tensei, not Shinra Tensei. And its confirmed that bringing those people back to life took all the chakra Nagato had left, Konan's thoughts said that the low chakra was why it killed him.

And yes he was going to try to make a bigger Chibaku Tensei but it doesn't mean he could have. Look at when Chibaku Tensei falls apart. First Nagato is seen having a new fit of coughs, then the material making up Chibaku Tensei loses its cohesion and falls apart. It's pretty clear he lost focus on it at that time due to how exhausted he was.


That means the kyuubi inside naruto is incomplete?
This has always confused me. After all the Kyuubi inside Naruto has nine tails and Minato spoke to it as though Kyuubi was not with him in the Death God's belly (he stated he never wanted to see Kyuubi again).

Furthermore the Kyuubi in Naruto is never referred to as being weaker than the original Kyuubi. I'm thinking that Minato sealed half the chakra with himself in the death god but left the Kyuubi's soul (or its mind if it has no soul) and the other chakra half in Naruto, and that Naruto's chakra basically becomes the other half of Kyuubi's chakra whenever he uses it (hence why we see blue chakra get used by Kyuubi when making that chakra blast). Or perhaps Kyuubi's chakra regenerated just as other chakra does when its user a chance to rest.

But regardless its pretty clear that even if incomplete the Kyuubi in Naruto is just as powerful as it was before it was sealed.

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Okay, back on topic now. I hope I don't get an infraction for this...:s:(

[shailks]

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[Googlez_kun]

KISHIMOTO IS A FUCKING GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wtf


had to get that fanboy scream out!

[igotthegoods]

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[Darth Executor]

lol @ zetsu's hellooooooo. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvCDHKYT3xQ)

[Thabor]

Sounds very cheeky and sorta humorous but blatantly wrong. He's developing Sakura right now. You glossed over it.

Her fighting skills may be laking now but Sakura is very much like Naruto. Her victories don't depend on skill like Sasuke's victories do. Like Naruto, she depends on pure grit and determination (Ino fight, Sasori fight, the old chuunin exams, etc.) That is how she gets down.

Development?? The Ino fight is the only where Sakura wasn't reliant on others to do her fighting and she didn't even win that one. She is only even considered a main character because she is on Naruto's team, and even that may not last. I said this in another thread already, but I think the stage is set for Naruto to begin leading his own team, and I don't believe she belongs in it.

[ChocoBar9]

Interesting chapter, so it seems like Shika gonna go through with it regardless of Naruto or Sakura feelings on the matter, the jigs up with Danzou as well
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Development?? The Ino fight is the only where Sakura wasn't reliant on others to do her fighting and she didn't even win that one. She is only even considered a main character because she is on Naruto's team, and even that may not last. I said this in another thread already, but I think the stage is set for Naruto to begin leading his own team, and I don't believe she belongs in it.
What team? A team of pacifists :eyeroll

[tellis429]

Rofl sakura has been crying alot lately, but I have a feeling this is marking the point of her impending growth ^^. Im so happy that she may convince naruto that sasuke isnt worth saving. But since I know Naruto won't accept that easily I atleast hope she diverts his efforts into a more resonable solution then "bringing him home."

[Darth Executor]

ack, i want more. damn kishi and damn cliffhanger.

[Ryodraco]

I love how when Zetsu appeared each kage got their own type of exclamation points.:amuse

Hokage: Two simple points. Just normal high surprise here.

Kazekage: One simple point (Gaara doesn't show much emotion so he is the least surprised)

Mizukage: Two bold points. She's shocked!

Tsuchikage: THREE exclamation points. The old man is going to have a heart attack at this rate!

Raikage: Three MASSIVE BOLD BLACK points! The Raikage won't take second place to anybody when showing his surprise.:D

[Darth Executor]

Interesting chapter, so it seems like Shika gonna go through with it regardless of Naruto or Sakura feelings on the matter, the jigs up with Danzou as well
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What team? A team of pacifists :eyeroll

naruto's not a pacifist. if he was he wouldn't fight at all.

[Ryodraco]

Development?? The Ino fight is the only where Sakura wasn't reliant on others to do her fighting and she didn't even win that one. She is only even considered a main character because she is on Naruto's team, and even that may not last. I said this in another thread already, but I think the stage is set for Naruto to begin leading his own team, and I don't believe she belongs in it.
You're talking like power is the only type of development there is. We're talking about character development here.

And Naruto also hasn't had a fight in a long time where he didn't rely on others.

[tellis429]

ack, i want more. damn kishi and damn cliffhanger. you're right I sorta felt the hokage summit would be boring but Kishi is doing a nice job keeping things interesting. I wanna see where the nexy chapter goes with such large focus on sasuke now.

[Thabor]

what's the moon eye plan?

Zetsu is going to drop his pants, bend over, and show them his newly implanted Sharingan.

[ChocoBar9]

naruto's not a pacifist. if he was he wouldn't fight at all.
Until his talk with Minato Naruto wouldn't have let Karui beat him senseless and he wouldn't have layed his head down before the Raikage and beg to pardon Sasuke.

[tellis429]

You're talking like power is the only type of development there is. We're talking about character development here.

And Naruto also hasn't had a fight in a long time where he didn't rely on others.

Where sasuke is going sakura's character development better be power because anything to her mentality etc. aint gonna cut it with sasuke. She definately needs to lvl up!

[Darth Executor]

Until his talk with Minato Naruto wouldn't have let Karui beat him senseless and he wouldn't have layed his head down before the Raikage and beg to pardon Sasuke.

Yeah, but it doesn't make him a pacifist. He not only fought but attacked karui and omoi first when karui pointed her sword at sakura.

[elitefox]

The gates are double-edged sword though. If he doesn't succeed after opening them, he's probably lost. Sasuke has also gotten fast and can avoid and/or predict Rock Lee's move and react accordingly. Sasuke doesn't need to constantly move as fast as Rock Lee, and Sasuke has trained hard, so he might be able to keep up the speed for longer.


But unlocking more gates will really take the hell outta Rock Lee, and he can't risk it, not yet anyway, not without backup or medic nin. But yeah, drunk Rock Lee would probably do pretty well against Sasuke. xD Unpredictable.
The potential isn't unlimited, but he can make Lee go very far with it. Taijutsu can only be taken further, yet we haven't seen as much taijutsu.
Exactly, but it won't do as much good against Sasuke, who's also intelligent enough and has good strategic thinking. He also has more chakra to spare and is good at taijutsu and ninjutsu. His genjutsu isn't as bad either. Sasuke can do midrange and longrange, but Shikamaru doesn't have enough chakra to do midrange for very long. If Shikamaru had a little more combat ability though, even really tiny, he probably would be on nearly equal footing, if not equal, with Sasuke.



Shino isn't as powerful, in my opinion, as stated, but intelligent enough and he has bugs. Bugs are scary. X_x
He's mostly useless though, without the pills anyway. That's just my opinion though. Raw power isn't the best way to go on about things without intelligence or cunning, what Naruto has, what Sasuke has.

Wow a sasuke fan, so he is that high and all mighty and cannot do anything 4 on 1 against killer bee,

I do agree as much that sasuke lost much of the raw power when itachi removed his curse seal though.

No one have seen anybody fight except naruto and sasuke but yeah naruto is on whole new level in sage mode but I bet sasuke can't do much to pain:facepalm albeit amaterasu is promising except he can summon susano o of course.

so Sasuke on whole different level is just a dream he is imagining while crying like a baby against killer bee.

[ChocoBar9]

Where sasuke is going sakura's character development better be power because anything to her mentality etc. aint gonna cut it with sasuke. She definately needs to lvl up!
Dude, if you think character development requires getting a power up to beat the shit out of someone, then you're obviously ill-informed

[KiSwordsman]

I liked Madara's panel. It was like he was announcing the beginning to a massive brawl. which of course could possibly be the case.

[tellis429]

Dude, if you think character development requires getting a power up to beat the shit out of someone, then you're obviously ill-informed Of course it doesn't but sakura's character developement is already guaranteed in fact a great portion of it happened just this chapter if anything she needs to become stronger now.

[Tayz]

I liked Madara's panel. It was like he was announcingthe beginning to a massive brawl. which of course could possibly be the case.

ya.i wonder how it'll go. it seems like it'll be team hawk and then every1 for themselves since none of the kage's trust each other.

[Natoma]

I for one am just happy that the Madara = Danzou theories are now officially dead and defunct......

[Darth Executor]

Wow a sasuke fan,

wow another lame hateboy. Because if anyone says something good about sasuke he must be a "sasuke fan".

I too think Sasuke could mop the floor with the entire "new generation" (minus naruto). Why? because they're weak. all of them. Shikamaru's the only one who stands out in any way. the rest are fodder level. don't blame me and don't whine about "sasuke fans", it's just the truth. kishi hasn't bothered to develop at all. if you don't like it, complain to him.

edit: actually shino has potential too but sasuke's chidori nagashi renders his bugs useless.

[ChocoBar9]

Of course it doesn't but sakura's character developement is already guaranteed in fact a great portion of it happened just this chapter if anything she needs to become stronger now.
Well, exactly, hopefully Kishi didn't waste all those panels of Sakura crying just to regress back to her former self.

[Darth Executor]

I for one am just happy that the Madara = Danzou theories are now officially dead and defunct......

how are they dead and defunct? if anything this chapter will fuel them because zetsu popped in and saved his ass.

[Ryodraco]

Wow a sasuke fan, so he is that high and all mighty and cannot do anything 4 on 1 against killer bee,
I'm no Sasuke fanboy but much of that fight wasn't 4 on 1. The others didn't step in until Sasuke got stabbed.


so Sasuke on whole different level is just a dream he is imagining while crying like a baby against killer bee.
You have to admit he took those hits like a man and came back for more without any fear.

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But since Sasuke and his team are outside it seems they may get away.

[Realtwisted]

omg man , i thought this chapter was going to be better..
Is their manga next week?

So akatsuki betray Team hawk or what is happening?

[Lego_Man]

Now.. taka's location is more plausible if they're objetive was not to be detected.. it seemed a little off in previous chapters.. but then again it takes some of the action away because I initially thought that they were on the ceiling looking down on everyone

Zetsu is gonna tell them where they are and sasuke isn't going to get away that easily.. perhaps a chase is coming up.. and action.. lots of action!

[tellis429]

Plus its alot more interesting seeing shisui revived from the abyss that is part 1 lol.

[Darth Executor]

omg man , i thought this chapter was going to be better..
Is their manga next week?

no

[Arrogance]

Great Chapter! :D. Of course when we are about to make Danzou spill the beans about how he got his eye and what he's doing....Zetsu steps in, lol. So now my next question is....where was Madara? They showed him in a frame saying Begin but we didn't see him around anyone in particular. It was snowing around him though so he could be in the land of the Iron....maybe he told the Black Zetsu to begin and then the white one acted?

[Ryodraco]

how are they dead and defunct? if anything this chapter will fuel them because zetsu popped in and saved his ass.
Except Madara acted like it had been planned with that "are you ready?" question. Not that that necessarily disproves it.