Naruto Volume 49 (Ch. 545-463) Discussion

[tellis429]

Well, exactly, hopefully Kishi didn't waste all those panels of Sakura crying just to regress back to her former self. :facepalm its happened once lets pray that kishi doesnt decide 3's the charm :p

[Lego_Man]

how are they dead and defunct? if anything this chapter will fuel them because zetsu popped in and saved his ass.

Not quite.. Ao thought that something was fishy, madara told zetsu to start the plan.. and then ao came down to interrogate danzou.. one thing came before the other.. unless you're saying danzou(madara) is god himself and when he somehow saw ao using his byakugan he thought to himself "oh I'm going to be discovered, better save my own ass from being humilliated":s

[Realtwisted]

Did akatsuki betray Team hawk or what is happening?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
Sasuke is smilling, i don't get why???

[videogamer64]

Is it true there's no chapter next week?

[xXOffspringXx]

thats hilarious that danzou got found out, i wonder what theyll do to him.

p.s. RUN SASUKE! RUN!

[Darth Executor]

Did akatsuki betray Team hawk or what is happening?

Yes.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
Sasuke is smilling, i don't get why???

He probably figured out what zetsu's planning.

[tellis429]

thats hilarious that danzou got found out, i wonder what theyll do to him.

p.s. RUN SASUKE! RUN! Nothing atm sasuke was mentioned we won't know for another 5-10 chapter :p. Jks aside it may be a while.

[ninjaman]

how are they dead and defunct? if anything this chapter will fuel them because zetsu popped in and saved his ass.

madara and danzou were clearly at different locations.. what more proof yall need. Lmao at zetsu about to point out sasuke. Helloooooooooo:eyeroll

[br4nd0nh347]

No manga next week :(

These last two chapters have annoyed me.
Sai
the 13
even Danzou getting outted like that.

Unfortunately everyone doesn't have all of the facts.
Sasuke has left Akatsuki.
Naruto doesn't know about Sasuke's new revenge plot.
Killer Bee is enjoying "freedom" while everyone else is about to go to war.

I don't really like Sasuke, but I hate it when things are misunderstood. I'm glad that Kishi has added this but at the same time, no manga next week.
Oh and who cars is "madara" and Danzou are in different places. I don't care for the Danzou= "Madara" plot, however this is fiction and people can easy be in two places at once. (Let alone "Madara")

[Kinmagan Gil]

Danzou.... as I think about him, this guy has his hands in everything. What's next? Did he incite the Third Ninja War? What hasn't he done? This Shisui angle... outrageous. I wonder why he was really into destroying the clan. I wonder if they were moving against Konoha, or ROOT. Nothing is clear right now... damn it all Kishimoto, you sly dog! I wonder what his connection to Orochimaru is. Do you think he was involved with his experiments?

[Ryodraco]

Did akatsuki betray Team hawk or what is happening?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
Sasuke is smilling, i don't get why???
He knows something... ;)

[Realtwisted]

Yes.


He probably figured out what zetsu's planning.

I think everything is going according to plan, Now a war will begin, akatsuki don't have to fight the 5 Great Country...:D

[Lego_Man]

Do you think he was involved with his experiments?

I think he provided resources for orochimaru's experiments.. look at Yamato:eyeroll, wouldn't be surprised if some anbu members have some weird shit powers

[ChocoBar9]

wow another lame hateboy. Because if anyone says something good about sasuke he must be a "sasuke fan".

I too think Sasuke could mop the floor with the entire "new generation" (minus naruto). Why? because they're weak. all of them. Shikamaru's the only one who stands out in any way. the rest are fodder level. don't blame me and don't whine about "sasuke fans", it's just the truth. kishi hasn't bothered to develop at all. if you don't like it, complain to him.
Nope, everyone who's says Sasuke would mop to floor with anyone due to eye hax is a fanboy, you considered them weak because THE MAJORITY HAVE NOT FOUGHT AT ALL, they're either shown for three panels and that's it, Shikamaru was the only character besides Naruto to show his strengths is battle, if your gonna consider everyone weak when we barely have any evidence regarding what they have learned through the years then wants the point? Your argument works for Ino and Chouji becuase even I highly doubt Sasuke would have faired better against two immortals, a god in sense and a sharkman. Topi it off with the fact that Sasuke has had the advantage in 3 out of the 4 battles he was in; Orochimaru was sick, Deidara just ninja element weakness just so happen to be Sasuke, and Itachi who had already given some of his power to Naruto and was on the verge of going blind and he still would have killed him, Killerbee was the only battle in which he did not have the advantage and he was beaten (without team taka backing him on) and only got by a whim.

[tellis429]

No manga next week :(

These last two chapters have annoyed me.
Sai
the 13
even Danzou getting outted like that.

Unfortunately everyone doesn't have all of the facts.
Sasuke has left Akatsuki.
Naruto doesn't know about Sasuke's new revenge plot.
Killer Bee is enjoying "freedom" while everyone else is about to go to war.

I don't really like Sasuke, but I hate it when things are misunderstood. I'm glad that Kishi has added this but at the same time, no manga next week. He might as well be in akatsuki with his current goals lol, now it just looks like hes not being manipulated any longer.

[Ryodraco]

Unfortunately everyone doesn't have all of the facts.
Sasuke has left Akatsuki.
Except he is still doing their bidding, it just happens to be what he was going to do anyway. One can't say he left them when one led him right to the summit and another told him to go there.

[lexx]

oh boy...wow

Sakura admits that Naruto loves her, and does it in a rather cruel, dismissive way no less.

Naruto's generation, none of whom individually could touch Sasuke, will soon be out for his blood. Shikamaru's probably the only one to watch, he's the only one smart enough to take on Sasuke.

Oh, and right when the most dangerous bee hive ever is agitated, Akatsuki shows up, and declares Sasuke's nearby presence. 5 Kages and their best retainers out for his blood...

Naruto, Kakashi, and Tenzou/Yamato nearby as well...

This is gonna be a huge shit storm. It's impossible to predict how this will develop.

War was a few more minutes of heated conversation away from breaking out, and now violence is guaranteed. There's only really one possible way for Naruto to handle this that'll avert all-out war, and that's to either defeat or cause Sasuke to retreat, saving all the Kage in the process. Since the Kage are not all that weak (and Naruto not all that omnipotent) I really doubt that'll happen...

Shit, I don't know what's going to happen but the story's at a huge turning point.

[SenninSage]

Sakura is pretty annoying. I don't know why, but I got strong sense as Shikamaru was in there saying what needed to be said, she felt as if he was a traitor of some kind -- as if she wanted to kill him.

Probably an over-analyzing of what I saw, but something seems off about her. I also like Shikamaru's choice of words. The only people that would want pay back if Sasuke were killed would be Ino, Naruto and Sakura. Shikamaru becomes more and more awesome each time he has a major moment.

[Darth Executor]

Not quite.. Ao thought that something was fishy, madara told zetsu to start the plan.. and then ao came down to interrogate danzou.. one thing came before the other.. unless you're saying danzou(madara) is god himself and went into kishi's mind and when he saw ao using his byakugan he thought to himself "oh I'm going to be discovered, better save my own ass from being humilliated":s

Ao used the byakugan before all that though. If danzou sensed it he could've had his tobi body tell zetsu to go. it's possible he was hoping zetsu would get there and ruin ao's shit before it got too far but zetsu just wasn't that fast.

[Realtwisted]

Nope, everyone who's says Sasuke would mop to floor with anyone due to eye hax is a fanboy, you considered them weak because THE MAJORITY HAVE NOT FOUGHT AT ALL, they're either shown for three panels and that's it, Shikamaru was the only character besides Naruto to show his strengths is battle, .

forgt Choji, Hinata is weak, she took one hit from one of nagato bodie and she die...

[redred]

Did akatsuki betray Team hawk or what is happening?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
Sasuke is smilling, i don't get why???

Yes.


He probably figured out what zetsu's planning.

he did have his sharingan activated.
and they werent in the same spot that they were when they saw danzo so yeah he probly figured things out

and with all this mind control bussiness i cant help but think that sasuke tried that thing hes been wanted to try on zetsu, because he has his hand over his eye.
maybe he pulled a "danzo" and controlled him somehow
possibly a new spin on tsukyomi?

[TeamSeven]

My original feelings about Narutos quest to not give up on Sasuke predicted there would come a point where NO ONE believed in what Naruto was doing.

Before it was easy to tell Pain and other "I will not give up!"

He had Sakura and many of the others supporting and encouraging him, or at the very least not directly conflicting with him.

Now will come the test. Can he still follow that code in the face of even Sakura telling him Sasuke needs to be killed?

For all we know first Itachi, and then Sasuke, were under the same type of influence as the 4th Mizukage. And aside from that one cloud ninja that tracked them, all Sasukes actions have really led to is the death of Orochimaru and the freeing of his prisoners.

There are people sitting at that Kage table that have done far worse (and not just Danzou).

[Natoma]

how are they dead and defunct? if anything this chapter will fuel them because zetsu popped in and saved his ass.

Because Zetsu met with Madara outside of the meeting hall, at which point Madara said "Begin"?

And then Zetsu appears in front of the 5 kages with Danzou in the hall? :)

Yea, Madara = Danzou is officially dead. Kaput. Finito. Bye-bye.

[ChocoBar9]

forgt Choji, Hinata is weak, she took one hit from one of nagato bodie and she die...
You realize how strong Pain was? You realize Naruto won due to prior knowledge of the bodies and his kyuubi transformation?
But Sasuke would have mopped the floor with him aimrite? :eyeroll

[Realtwisted]

But Sasuke would have mopped the floor with him aimrite? :eyeroll

k, i don't know what you mean by the but you forgot those character..
and before when they were like 13 year old they were one of the stronger, and now i see them like weakling.

Sasuke has mopped teh floor?Were?
The konoha ninja just know he beat Itachi, Deidara and Orochimaru"they don't know everything"

[lexx]

But Sasuke would have mopped the floor with him aimrite? :eyeroll

Sadly, yes, he might've. Tsukyomi + Amaterasu + using sharingan to follow the chakra being transmitted. It could've been a 3 page victory, as disgusting as that sounds. Mangekyo Sharingan is truly hax.

[VashisLeet]

OMFG, i knew i should keep having faith in naruto, this chapter was actually really fucking good, i was totally surprised.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/14/
i was going to say at least its not the sharingan...but then fuck he actually did something totally bad ass with it

I don't know what was cooler, the fact that we was called out, or the fact that his implanted limbs and the eye from itachi;'s best friend O_o

Also, did the genin get the resolve to beat the fuck out sauske themselves...like kill him :oh

I have been bashing naruto so much lately, but this single chapter made me take it all back.

[elitefox]

wow another lame hateboy. Because if anyone says something good about sasuke he must be a "sasuke fan".

I too think Sasuke could mop the floor with the entire "new generation" (minus naruto). Why? because they're weak. all of them. Shikamaru's the only one who stands out in any way. the rest are fodder level. don't blame me and don't whine about "sasuke fans", it's just the truth. kishi hasn't bothered to develop at all. if you don't like it, complain to him.

edit: actually shino has potential too but sasuke's chidori nagashi renders his bugs useless.

haha yeah I am a fanboy too, bashing everyone in his batch, just too much to read:(
They can all give a decent fight at least and even defeat him, except maybe sakura or ino(if her techniques don't work)
Sasuke is not godly you know

PS I love all characters :D without evil there is no good:p

[tellis429]

oh boy...wow

Sakura admits that Naruto loves her, and does it in a rather cruel, dismissive way no less.

Naruto's generation, none of whom individually could touch Sasuke, will soon be out for his blood. Shikamaru's probably the only one to watch, he's the only one smart enough to take on Sasuke. Yeah that was a bit cruel, just made me wonder if she had just finished crying on behalf of the guy she just said that about. Naruto's generation is pretty bad... can neji count? cause if he does he'd give him a small run for his money.

[enraI]

um did (forgot his name) Sword enlarged ? da dude from da mist village

[carb]

if anyone noticed the part where mifune pointed at raikage using his index finger similar to the way itachi pointed to itachi way back when kisame visited konoha. My question is, why would kubo waste a panel just to show mifune pointing at raikage? no reason whatsoever unless this is part of a genjutsu being cast by someone...

[TeamSeven]

um did (forgot his name) Sword enlarged ? da dude from da mist village

It looks like one of those fish crackers now lol

[Ryodraco]

forgt Choji, Hinata is weak, she took one hit from one of nagato bodie and she die...
An attack like Hinata used is not weak. Not to mention she did not take one attack and die.

She was hit by Shinra Tensei

She was stabbed by the black rod by someone who wanted to kill her.

And even then she didn't actually die.

I don't see how that is weak for someone with no super endurance or healing powers.:)

[ProYondaime]

what an amazing chapter, was all chatting but was great xD. Cant imagine whats next but it gonna be huge, i think zetsu will go as fast as he pop up, idk theres alot of things could happend, why kakashi dont use his dog´s ninjas they can smell sasuke!! just at the corner of the inn or something near, cant wait 15 days for next chapter thats gonna kill me!! Dang u Kishi!!!

[ChocoBar9]

haha yeah I am a fanboy too, bashing everyone in his batch, just too much to read:(
They can all give a decent fight at least and even defeat him, except maybe sakura or ino(if her techniques don't work)
Sasuke is not godly you know

PS I love all characters :D without evil there is no good:p
Sasuke is an interesting character and a great foil to Naruto in everyway, I doubt the series will be worth reading if Naruto didn't have a rival of his calibur, but I just hate his personality.

[VashisLeet]

OMFG, i knew i should keep having faith in naruto, this chapter was actually really fucking good, i was totally surprised.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/14/
i was going to say at least its not the sharingan...but then fuck he actually did something totally bad ass with it

I don't know what was cooler, the fact that danzo was called out, or the fact that his implanted limbs and the eye from itachi;'s best friend O_o

I have been bashing naruto so much lately, but this single chapter made me take it all back...except pains flash back, that can still go @!#$@ itself

...also the wangst off is getting to me but its alright

[TeamSeven]

if anyone noticed the part where mifune pointed at raikage using his index finger similar to the way itachi pointed to itachi way back when kisame visited konoha. My question is, why would kubo waste a panel just to show mifune pointing at raikage? no reason whatsoever unless this is part of a genjutsu being cast by someone...

He was pointing at the hole Raikage made in the table, to emphasize his point about Raikage letting his emotions guide him too much.

[redred]

what an amazing chapter, was all chatting but was great xD. Cant imagine whats next but it gonna be huge, i think zetsu will go as fast as he pop up, idk theres alot of things could happend, why kakashi dont use his dog´s ninjas they can smell sasuke!! just at the corner of the inn or something near, cant wait 15 days for next chapter thats gonna kill me!! Dang u Kishi!!!
most likely because theyre not suppoused to even be in the iron country :P
it would blow not only sasukes cover, but their cover too
and then big battle :P

[kaizoku king]

there is something that puzzles me i know ino had a crush on sasuke but how many times in the series did he actually talk or looked her way like 6 times so why is she crying so much i odnt remember him even calling her name never or maybe i forgot something.

why the hell naruto thinks sasuke has him in his mind the way he thinks sasuke is still kinda warm and think of them is crazy

[Darth Executor]

Nope, everyone who's says Sasuke would mop to floor with anyone due to eye hax is a fanboy,


you think anyone who doesn't want to gouge sasuke's eyes out with an ice pick is a "fanboy". You're like a psycho ex-girlfriend who just won't let go.


you considered them weak because THE MAJORITY HAVE NOT FOUGHT AT ALL, they're either shown for three panels and that's it, Shikamaru was the only character besides Naruto to show his strengths is battle, if your gonna consider everyone weak when we barely have any evidence regarding what they have learned through the years then wants the point?

No, i consider them weak because apart from kiba/shino/hinata they've all been in major fights and have shown themselves to be virtually useless. neji/lee/ten ten spent most of their fights scratching 30% (important detail) kisame's sword with their faces and drinking water. ino spent her time staring and although choji tried to do something, he didn't actually succeed.


Your argument works for Ino and Chouji becuase even I highly doubt Sasuke would have faired better against two immortals, a god in sense and a sharkman. Topi it off with the fact that Sasuke has had the advantage in 3 out of the 4 battles he was in; Orochimaru was sick, Deidara just ninja element weakness just so happen to be Sasuke, and Itachi who had already given some of his power to Naruto and was on the verge of going blind and he still would have killed him,

First, I don't even count the oro/itachi battles. but dismissing deidara like that is just more evidence that you're so blinded by your hate for sasuke you can't see straight. deidara could fly. if he had any brains he wouldn't have underestimated sasuke and would've climbed on his bird, flown as high as he could and drop a nuke on sasuke. sasuke didn't know chidori could disarm his bombs until deidara wasted lame attacks on him.


Killerbee was the only battle in which he did not have the advantage and he was beaten (without team taka backing him on) and only got by a whim.

Actually he had a disadvantage in that was trying to capture killerbee and thus had to hold back. if he had whipped out amaterasu from the beginning things might've gone differently.

[SenninSage]

Danzou couldn't realistically issue an order to Zetsu in front of all the kage so I have a very strange feeling that the possibility that Danzou and Madara are the same person is still very high. We still don't know what that new secret Mangekyou Technique that Itachi hinted about is yet.

Like someone else said, this is fiction; and as such anything is possible. If you can have immortals, people with multiple hearts, techniques capable of bringing back the dead or shinobi capable of fighting as 6 shinobi simultaneously, you can sure as hell have someone who is capable of being in 2 places at the same time.

Nonetheless, this is all becoming extremely exciting. Kishi can take it in so many potentially amazing directions.

LOL Darth Executor's reasoning for every argument involving sasuke is "Sasuke will whip out Amaterasu"

I don't know if you've realized or not, but there is no way in hell that will be the ultimate solution to any and everything. It CAN miss and it CAN be avoided. This is a Shonen, we should all know the rules. If Sasuke had whipped out Amaterasu immediately against a newly introduced 8 tail Jinchuuruki, that newly introduced 8 tail Jinchuuruki would've somehow defeated or shown himself to be incapable of getting caught by Amaterasu forcing Sasuke to resort to other things.

All in all it's your own opinion though and if you believe Sasuke can use Amaterasu and just destroy any who oppose him in an instant then you have that right. I have my biases, and I'm certain there are others that have theirs, but Amaterasu will be proven to not be the instant go to solution for everything that you seem to believe it is. Skilled opponents simply won't get hit by it. The only skilled opponent that may get hit with it is Naruto and it will probably end up hitting a Kage Bunshin instead of the real deal.

[ChocoBar9]

um did (forgot his name) Sword enlarged ? da dude from da mist village
Chojiro?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/16-17/

[Realtwisted]

Sasuke is an interesting character and a great foil to Naruto in everyway, I doubt the series will be worth reading if Naruto didn't have a rival of his calibur, but I just hate his personality.

Sasuke is just like Vegeta from Dragon ball z, following the path of revenge to revenge his father.

[Darth Executor]

um did (forgot his name) Sword enlarged ? da dude from da mist village

for some reason it has a different shape every time kishi shows it.

[Nicholas.Sama]

Sakura is pretty annoying. I don't know why, but I got strong sense as Shikamaru was in there saying what needed to be said, she felt as if he was a traitor of some kind -- as if she wanted to kill him.

Probably an over-analyzing of what I saw, but something seems off about her. I also like Shikamaru's choice of words. The only people that would want pay back if Sasuke were killed would be Ino, Naruto and Sakura. Shikamaru becomes more and more awesome each time he has a major moment.

she's dead inside
she has officially given up and come to terms with "reality" :notrust

[TeamSeven]

I think half this fanbase is going to implode when Sasuke doesn't turn out to be a villain lol.

[DEATHBOTT]

shikas reason for killing sasuke is so dumb. If sasuke dies by someone elses hand we will go to war with that person but its ok if he dies by our hand. doesnt make sense.
any way as a team i think if shino, neji, shikamaru, sai, sakura and lee all attacked sasuke by himself they would win 3 close range fighters and 3 support and with shikamarus tacticas i think that would be one of the best teams in the manga even though they dont know sasukes jutsus. kiba, ino, hinata, chouji and tenten would just be the fodder. If they attacked hawk on the other hand i think they would probably lose.

[Jadedmariner]

Sadly, yes, he might've. Tsukyomi + Amaterasu + using sharingan to follow the chakra being transmitted. It could've been a 3 page victory, as disgusting as that sounds. Mangekyo Sharingan is truly hax.

Nah wouldn't work. Tsukiyomi only hits 1 body and both Hungry Ghost Realm and God Realm are capable of dealing with Amaterasu.

[ashher]

I dunno Shika never directly sid that they r gonna go out for sasuke's blood.Of course he could hardly say that to sakura's face.But reading between his lines he seems to say that as sasuke is indisposable for ino,saku,naru and they may get controlled by their emotions starting a war,that's why the rest rookies should deal with sasuke,but he didn't necessarily say that they should kill him

[tellis429]

Ahh give everyone a chance if naruto can master sm hax in a couple chapters im sure they learned something since their respective fights... maybe.

[Darth Executor]

forgt Choji, Hinata is weak, she took one hit from one of nagato bodie and she die...

So did gamabunta and he definitely isn't weak.

[tellis429]

shikas reason for killing sasuke is so dumb. If sasuke dies by someone elses hand we will go to war with that person but its ok if he dies by our hand. doesnt make sense.
any way as a team i think if shino, neji, shikamaru, sai, sakura and lee all attacked sasuke by himself they would win 3 close range fighters and 3 support and with shikamarus tacticas i think that would be one of the best teams in the manga even though they dont know sasukes jutsus. kiba, ino, hinata, chouji and tenten would just be the fodder. If they attacked hawk on the other hand i think they would probably lose. I realised something about naruto, the more people you have fighting the more likely that party will lose. Kage Bunshin anyone? haha.

[Nicholas.Sama]

Nah wouldn't work. Tsukiyomi only hits 1 body and both Hungry Ghost Realm and God Realm are capable of dealing with Amaterasu.

dont be so sure
amaterasu SPAMS and can catch anyone by surprise
pain is weak against genjutsu

[Ryodraco]

there is something that puzzles me i know ino had a crush on sasuke but how many times in the series did he actually talk or looked her way like 6 times so why is she crying so much i odnt remember him even calling her name never or maybe i forgot something.
I think it could be as much because she cares so much for Sakura as anything else. She knows how much this will hurt her.


why the hell naruto thinks sasuke has him in his mind the way he thinks sasuke is still kinda warm and think of them is crazy
He's just wondering Sasuke ever thinks about him or the others, if there is anything left of the guy he used to be. That's a pretty normal thing to think I think.:)

[ProYondaime]

if anyone noticed the part where mifune pointed at raikage using his index finger similar to the way itachi pointed to itachi way back when kisame visited konoha. My question is, why would kubo waste a panel just to show mifune pointing at raikage? no reason whatsoever unless this is part of a genjutsu being cast by someone...

what?? itachi pointed to itachi ?? how come?? was there a mirror??

rofl!! srry xD

[Realtwisted]

I wonder if sasuke is using a illusion on the kages, in one the picture i saw him smilling.
i just don't get where is Kishi heading Naruto manga.

[elitefox]

You realize how strong Pain was? You realize Naruto won due to prior knowledge of the bodies and his kyuubi transformation?
But Sasuke would have mopped the floor with him aimrite? :eyeroll

yep you're right, he will mop the floor once naruto and the rest catch him and thrown to prison for the rest of 10 yrs or so :facepalm

[Lego_Man]

Ao used the byakugan before all that though. If danzou sensed it he could've had his tobi body tell zetsu to go. it's possible he was hoping zetsu would get there and ruin ao's shit before it got too far but zetsu just wasn't that fast.

It's seems a bit of a stretch if you ask me.. kind of a long shot

[ashher]

shikas reason for killing sasuke is so dumb. If sasuke dies by someone elses hand we will go to war with that person but its ok if he dies by our hand. doesnt make sense.
any way as a team i think if shino, neji, shikamaru, sai, sakura and lee all attacked sasuke by himself they would win 3 close range fighters and 3 support and with shikamarus tacticas i think that would be one of the best teams in the manga even though they dont know sasukes jutsus. kiba, ino, hinata, chouji and tenten would just be the fodder. If they attacked hawk on the other hand i think they would probably lose.

Shika didn't say kill word once.

Also naruto,skura,ino can hardly start a war with their own friends,right?

Shika is trying to get them to understand why sasuke is needed to be dealt with and not turn it into an issue for starting a war

You see to avoid a war someone has to stop somewhere.And like Raikage,Shika finds that he won't be able to stop if his friends got involved.that's why he is trying to stop naruto tom get involved in the first place, for a criminal(that's what sasuke is to shika)

[TeamSeven]

So did gamabunta and he definitely isn't weak.

Agreed, Hinata is far from weak. I'm betting she would mop the floor with a majority of the group Skikimaru is putting together at this point.

[ChocoBar9]

you think anyone who doesn't want to gouge sasuke's eyes out with an ice pick is a "fanboy". You're like a psycho ex-girlfriend who just won't let go.
What?:s



No, i consider them weak because apart from kiba/shino/hinata they've all been in major fights and have shown themselves to be virtually useless. neji/lee/ten ten spent most of their fights scratching 30% (important detail) kisame's sword with their faces and drinking water. ino spent her time staring and although choji tried to do something, he didn't actually succeed.
Define major, because we never got the scope of their abilities in none of the battles. I already said I agree with Choji and Ino but we haven't seen what Neji, lee, Tenten, Shino and Kiba are capable of if they're gonna get captured or if Kishi's gonna skipped through their attles, you acn't make a judgement off of Kisame because he's suppose to have as much chakra as Naruto in kyuubi mode (pretimskip)




First, I don't even count the oro/itachi battles. but dismissing deidara like that is just more evidence that you're so blinded by your hate for sasuke you can't see straight. deidara could fly. if he had any brains he wouldn't have underestimated sasuke and would've climbed on his bird, flown as high as he could and drop a nuke on sasuke. sasuke didn't know chidori could disarm his bombs until deidara wasted lame attacks on him.
Could of doesn't support your argument, Deidara "could have" done what you suggested but he didn't since he let his own grudge against Itachi get the better of his own judgement, he was already at a disadavntage from the get go and when he knew he couldn't win he killed himself and tried to take Sasuke with him, BUT IT FAILED.



Actually he had a disadvantage in that was trying to capture killerbee and thus had to hold back. if he had whipped out amaterasu from the beginning things might've gone differently.
Nothing states that Sasuke was holding back the entire fight, when he realized who he was dealing with he fought seriously he still got knocked down and with Team Taka assistance he would died and nothing supports that Sasuke has mastered Amaterasu or could have ended the battle from the start since giving his first time with it he didn't have control over it.

[ZShadow07]

well about the killer bee thing sasuke did say you have to take into the limit where you need to go for blood or else your gonna die....no that was suigetsu but i mean he should know sasuke's limits

[ProYondaime]

okay one point for sure! i think danzo cant be madara cuz come on Ao could notice that he had 2 sharingans not just one, imo

[samtorx]

What I don't get is: why would people think Danzo is Tobi/Madara still now since it's clearly stated that his right eye chakra is from Shisui? If anyone has good reasoning please enlighten me.

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lol proyondaime we should combine our posts didn't see yours up there

[Realtwisted]

Nothing states that Sasuke was holding back the entire fight, when he realized who he was dealing with he fought seriously he still got knocked down and with Team Taka assistance he would died and nothing supports that Sasuke has mastered Amaterasu or could have ended the battle from the start since giving his first time with it he didn't have control over it.

First Sasuke wound from Itachi fight din't heal complete
If killer had the chance to kill Sasuke, why he din't?
Second is hard to capture a person them to kill them

[SenninSage]

Sasuke is just like Vegeta from Dragon ball z, following the path of revenge to revenge his father.

He'll get humbled just like Vegeta did as well, only worse.

[Realtwisted]

What I don't get is: why would people think Danzo is Tobi/Madara still now since it's clearly stated that his right eye chakra is from Shisui? If anyone has good reasoning please enlighten me.

True, but Shisui was also know for being a teleporter "TObi"

[ProYondaime]

for some reason it has a different shape every time kishi shows it.

Really didnt notice, gonna go back then thats strange lol , thanks for saying that XD

[Realtwisted]

He'll get humbled just like Vegeta did as well, only worse.

Kishi, got idea from Dragon ball z, look it in naruto wiki.

[SenninSage]

First Sasuke wound from Itachi fight din't heal complete
If killer had the chance to kill Sasuke, why he din't?
Second is hard to capture a person them to kill them

That excuse won't fly anymore because they made it clear that they would start fighting to kill and then hopefully they'd be able to defeat him without killing him.

His wounds didn't completely heal from the Itachi, but at no point in the Killer Bee fight did it appear as if he was hurt, aside from when he got wrecked by Killer Bee. Fact is that Sasuke would've been killed with complete ease without taka there to back him up. But there's no shame in that. Kakashi has been saved before as well.

[Ryodraco]

True, but Shisui was also know for being a teleporter "TObi"
Except his teleporting was the same as other ninjas use. High speed movement. He was just real good at it.

[ChocoBar9]

First Sasuke wound from Itachi fight din't heal complete
If killer had the chance to kill Sasuke, why he din't?
Second is hard to capture a person them to kill them
Bullshit, Sasuke had no wounds from Itachi still lingering during the fight and his use of Amaterasu was a result of him not mastering the jutsu not Itachi, you can argue that Killerbee was already exhausted from training before Team Taka came into the scene to capture him. All you've proven is that Sasuke has failed to capture and kill him.

[Cykai]

i cant believe ppl think sakura will betray konoha. she already accepted sasuke's fate. the fact that her words after she told shika to not nay anything else was " he's in love with me.. let me talk to him" is proof of it. she want to be the one to tell naruto. i don't get how ppl don't understand when it's there in black and white.

[SenninSage]

True, but Shisui was also know for being a teleporter "TObi"

Wow... yea he was wasn't he lol.

I honestly believe that Danzou is still Madara. I was holding out for the possibility that Madara wasn't Danzou, but with this chapter that should've hurt the theory, it only got me thinking more strongly that they are one and the same.

Ao was also about to say something else of importance until Zetsu dived in there.

[ashher]

He'll get humbled just like Vegeta did as well, only worse.

There is gonna be one major difference.
That's everyone who follows Naruto series wants to see sasuke come back. I still remember how cool he was when everyting started.readers used to complain why naruto is so stupid and adored sasuke

[SenninSage]

Bullshit, Sasuke had no wounds from Itachi still lingering during the fight and his use of Amaterasu was a result of him not mastering the jutsu not Itachi, you can argue that Killerbee was already exhausted from training before Team Taka came into the scene to capture him.

True, KillerBee DID just finish a hardcore training session.

[DEATHBOTT]

Shika didn't say kill word once.

Also naruto,skura,ino can hardly start a war with their own friends,right?

Shika is trying to get them to understand why sasuke is needed to be dealt with and not turn it into an issue for starting a war

You see to avoid a war someone has to stop somewhere.And like Raikage,Shika finds that he won't be able to stop if his friends got involved.that's why he is trying to stop naruto tom get involved in the first place, for a criminal(that's what sasuke is to shika)

i understand that but they could just let kumo deal with sasuke and not get involved when they kill him. It just seems that i if felt so passtionate about a person that i was willing to go to war for him then i wouldnt let anyone kill them, so the fact that shikas asking for permission is stupid.
"if kumo kills sasuke you will attack them and get killed so i will attack them and start a war. we can prevent this by killing sasuke the person you care so much about you would go to war for". why not just ask "hay sakura why dont you just not retaliate?" problem solved hurray!!!

[Realtwisted]

That excuse won't fly anymore because they made it clear that they would start fighting to kill and then hopefully they'd be able to defeat him without killing him.

His wounds didn't completely heal from the Itachi, but at no point in the Killer Bee fight did it appear as if he was hurt, aside from when he got wrecked by Killer Bee. Fact is that Sasuke would've been killed with complete ease without taka there to back him up. But there's no shame in that. Kakashi has been saved before as well.

le't me put it this way;)
i have a cancer but i don't see no physical sight effect..
go read manga, he wound din't heal.

[elitefox]

No, i consider them weak because apart from kiba/shino/hinata they've all been in major fights and have shown themselves to be virtually useless. neji/lee/ten ten spent most of their fights scratching 30% (important detail) kisame's sword with their faces and drinking water. ino spent her time staring and although choji tried to do something, he didn't actually succeed.

kiba/shino/hinata in major fights, when? against tobi? lol fyi, sasuke can't even touch him too... I highly doubt sasuke can handle kisame with kisame knowing his most powerful jutsu's ie tsukiyomi and amaterasu.


First, I don't even count the oro/itachi battles. but dismissing deidara like that is just more evidence that you're so blinded by your hate for sasuke you can't see straight. deidara could fly. if he had any brains he wouldn't have underestimated sasuke and would've climbed on his bird, flown as high as he could and drop a nuke on sasuke. sasuke didn't know chidori could disarm his bombs until deidara wasted lame attacks on him.

I think most of his batch can deal with deidara or at least a major damage.


Actually he had a disadvantage in that was trying to capture killerbee and thus had to hold back. if he had whipped out amaterasu from the beginning things might've gone differently.

like when in the anime world characters use your full power at first, killer hasn't shown his arsenal of jutsus, except crazy sword and the eight tail.
if he does use it first, that will prove that he is so dependent on those eyes, thus growth wouldn't be that great

just my 2 cents

[Ryodraco]

Bullshit, Sasuke had no wounds from Itachi still lingering during the fight and his use of Amaterasu was a result of him not mastering the jutsu not Itachi, you can argue that Killerbee was already exhausted from training before Team Taka came into the scene to capture him.
Except we are told by Juugo that Sasuke was still injured from fighting Itachi.

Further when Sasuke first spoke with Madara he was wrapped in bandages. Its not clear how but he seemed to have suffered some nasty injuries during the fight with Itachi at some point. Maybe when Orochimaru ripped himself out...:o

[choke_a_beech]

man chapter had a lot of new revelations.....akatsuki using earth village????? for real?

shisui uchiha had his remains stolen by dickzo????? he was manipulatin raikage and maybe the moderator????? zetsu being an asshole and interrupting the meeting????

sakura finally realisin she's a dumb bitch?????

[SenninSage]

There is gonna be one major difference.
That's everyone who follows Naruto series wants to see sasuke come back. I still remember how cool he was when everyting started.readers used to complain why naruto is so stupid and adored sasuke

Really? That was never the case for me. I always felt Sasuke was a good shinobi, but I was always rooting for Naruto over him and have always liked Naruto far more. The cool things he did like him stabbing himself in the hand the way he did as a promise that he would not let Sasuke out do him or that he'd be better. Or the way he took that stabbed from Kabuto to hold onto him for the Rasengan. There's a rawness to Naruto that Sasuke will just never have.

[TeamSeven]

What I don't get is: why would people think Danzo is Tobi/Madara still now since it's clearly stated that his right eye chakra is from Shisui? If anyone has good reasoning please enlighten me.

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lol proyondaime we should combine our posts didn't see yours up there


That does put a definite screw in the theory of how they could be the same person using Obitos eye.

But there is still something we are missing I think. How they ended up being the same person is a matter of some speculation .. the fact that there are certain things tying them together "somehow" still looms large though.

Like the Blood Mist village training under the akatsuki influenced 4th Mizukage .. and the parallel of "Root" employing the same methods .. coinciding with the proof that Danzou has been trying to manipulate other leaders, like Hanzou, to enable him to seize power ...

There are tons of little bread crumbs scattered throughout like that.

They are connected somehow.

The fact that Shisuis eye is in Danzou doesn't inherently prove anything though. Tobi could have it as well ... there's no inherent proof that he actually is Madara to this point.

[ProYondaime]

True, but Shisui was also know for being a teleporter "TObi"

What?? know by whom?? where u see that?? :o

[ashher]

i understand that but they could just let kumo deal with sasuke and not get involved when they kill him. It just seems that i if felt so passtionate about a person that i was willing to go to war for him then i wouldnt let anyone kill them, so the fact that shikas asking for permission is stupid.
"if kumo kills sasuke you will attack them and get killed so i will attack them and start a war. we can prevent this by killing sasuke the person you care so much about you would go to war for". why not just ask "hay sakura why dont you just not retaliate?" problem solved hurray!!!

Well kumo has asked for konoha's help, and hokage already ordered sasuke's execution.its the job of the village to dispose of missing-nins to protect secrets.so naturally chuunins will get assigned to this mission,seeing how important this is,and that's why shika tried clear things with team7 beforehand.

[Ryodraco]

i understand that but they could just let kumo deal with sasuke and not get involved when they kill him. It just seems that i if felt so passtionate about a person that i was willing to go to war for him then i wouldnt let anyone kill them, so the fact that shikas asking for permission is stupid.
"if kumo kills sasuke you will attack them and get killed so i will attack them and start a war. we can prevent this by killing sasuke the person you care so much about you would go to war for". why not just ask "hay sakura why dont you just not retaliate?" problem solved hurray!!!
The thing is retaliation against one's friends is less likely, plus they keep it inside the village if Sakura or Naruto do retaliate against them.

The main point is Shikamaru feels they should take some responsibility for Sasuke and not just let other countries handle him.

[Realtwisted]

What?? know by whom?? where u see that?? :o

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Flicker_Technique'
i don't remember but it was show in manga, when Itachi told Sasuke how he got his MS.

[Darth Executor]

Define major, because we never got the scope of their abilities in none of the battles. I already said I agree with Choji and Ino but we haven't seen what Neji, lee, Tenten, Shino and Kiba are capable of if they're gonna get captured or if Kishi's gonna skipped through their attles, you acn't make a judgement off of Kisame because he's suppose to have as much chakra as Naruto in kyuubi mode (pretimskip)

Huh? "Kisame is too strong therefore I can't make a judgement". That's your argument that they would wipe the floor with Sasuke? LMAO

If neji, ten ten and lee were capable they wouldn't have gotten owned by water clones with have a tenth of the original's power. but they're not capable hence my judgement that they're weak.

we haven't seen what kiba can do, but during the tobi "fight" all he did was the same damn move he used in part 1. i'm not even sure what development he could get that would help him deal with the threats sasuke possesses. he'd need a complete change in combat style to deal with sasuke's elemental jutsu.

As for shino, he uses bugs. sasuke can impale them with chidori nagashi. it's just a lopsided match, no matter how good shino is with his bugs. it's a repeat of deidara's c3 except deidara had other tricks up his sleeve. shino just uses bugs.


Could of doesn't support your argument, Deidara "could have" done what you suggested but he didn't since he let his own grudge against Itachi get the better of his own judgement, he was already at a disadavntage from the get go and when he knew he couldn't win he killed himself and tried to take Sasuke with him, BUT IT FAILED.


That's fine, thanks for proving my point: sasuke beat him fair and square. deidara had the ability to do better but due to emotional problems sasuke outsmarted him. it doesn't really matter what excuses you invent for deidara.

And here is where your hateboyism is so damn obvious:

when ten ten, neji and lee get owned by 10% strength clones of a 30% kisame, you dismiss it. When sasuke takes on a full strength akatsuki (+ tobi on the side) you make excuses: oh, sasuke figured out how to disarm his bombs. oh, he was pmsing. hilarious really.


Nothing states that Sasuke was holding back the entire fight, when he realized who he was dealing with he fought seriously he still got knocked down and with Team Taka assistance he would died

Nope. He held back until the situation was so dire that he thought there was no chance of capturing and had to use amaterasu. at which point the fight ended in a stalemate since killerbee was using the situation to get out of his village. anyway, even if killerbee is stronger than he is (and I think he is), how does that change the fact that the rookie 9 and team gai are, for the most part, fodder level?


and nothing supports that Sasuke has mastered Amaterasu or could have ended the battle from the start since giving his first time with it he didn't have control over it.

What is this, Bleach? "Master amaterasu"? What's to master? He turns it on and black fire devours whatever he stares at. Where do you come up with this shit?

[ashher]

What?? know by whom?? where u see that?? :o

Shisui of mirage.That's what he was known as.

[TeamSeven]

i cant believe ppl think sakura will betray konoha. she already accepted sasuke's fate. the fact that her words after she told shika to not nay anything else was " he's in love with me.. let me talk to him" is proof of it. she want to be the one to tell naruto. i don't get how ppl don't understand when it's there in black and white.

They are all, Sakura included, going to lose faith in Narutos goal to not give up on Sasuke.

Naruto will have to stand alone on his beliefs and not give up, even when the people he relied on to support him stand in his way.

The only one who might not is Kakashi. The 4th basically said "follow the kid" .. and that is enough for him. He is a believer.

[Ryodraco]

man chapter had a lot of new revelations.....akatsuki using earth village????? for real?
The Earth village used Akaksuki as mercenaries years ago and in turn were used by Akaksuki to get money. This was covered in the previous chapter.

[elitefox]

First Sasuke wound from Itachi fight din't heal complete
If killer had the chance to kill Sasuke, why he din't?
Second is hard to capture a person them to kill them

He wants to get free out his being a guardian of lighting city.:facepalm

[Realtwisted]

He wants to get free out his being a guardian of lighting city.:facepalm

them he could eazyly run..:facepalm

[TeamSeven]

Shisui of mirage.That's what he was known as.

You know .. technically we are all just assuming Tobi is a teleporter.

If he is Danzou, and Shisuis eye technique is strong enough, who is to say that Tobi is even there? Maybe he is a mirage, and once Danzou enters your mind once he can see through your eyes and make you see what he wants you to see.

[ashher]

Huh? "Kisame is too strong therefore I can't make a judgement". That's your argument that they would wipe the floor with Sasuke? LMAO

If neji, ten ten and lee were capable they wouldn't have gotten owned by water clones with have a tenth of the original's power. but they're not capable hence my judgement that they're weak.

we haven't seen what kiba can do, but during the tobi "fight" all he did was the same damn move he used in part 1. i'm not even sure what development he could get that would help him deal with the threats sasuke possesses. he'd need a complete change in combat style to deal with sasuke's elemental jutsu.

As for shino, he uses bugs. sasuke can impale them with chidori nagashi. it's just a lopsided match, no matter how good shino is with his bugs. it's a repeat of deidara's c3 except deidara had other tricks up his sleeve. shino just uses bugs.



That's fine, thanks for proving my point: sasuke beat him fair and square. deidara had the ability to do better but due to emotional problems sasuke outsmarted him. it doesn't really matter what excuses you invent for deidara.

And here is where your hateboyism is so damn obvious:

when ten ten, neji and lee get owned by 10% strength clones of a 30% kisame, you dismiss it. When sasuke takes on a full strength akatsuki (+ tobi on the side) you make excuses: oh, sasuke figured out how to disarm his bombs. oh, he was pmsing. hilarious really.



Nope. He held back until the situation was so dire that he thought there was no chance of capturing and had to use amaterasu. at which point the fight ended in a stalemate since killerbee was using the situation to get out of his village. anyway, even if killerbee is stronger than he is (and I think he is), how does that change the fact that the rookie 9 and team gai are, for the most part, fodder level?



What is this, Bleach? "Master amaterasu"? What's to master? He turns it on and black fire devours whatever he stares at. Where do you come up with this shit?

You don't honestly think that other rookies are in same league as naruto and sasuke.Shika's father clearly stated that shika is beneath the level of naruto,and judging from the rivalry theam kishi has maintained thriough out(whenever one had anew power,other also had,like sage tech and amataresu).I would say sasuke is close to naruto.

However if they team up against sasuke then they have a chance seeing that they have got a strategist of shika's calibre
[hr]

You know .. technically we are all just assuming Tobi is a teleporter.

If he is Danzou, and Shisuis eye technique is strong enough, who is to say that Tobi is even there? Maybe he is a mirage, and once Danzou enters your mind once he can see through your eyes and make you see what he wants you to see.

Jetsu said tobi can travel at the speed of light.

[Vladnik]

Well kumo has asked for konoha's help, and hokage already ordered sasuke's execution.its the job of the village to dispose of missing-nins to protect secrets.so naturally chuunins will get assigned to this mission,seeing how important this is,and that's why shika tried clear things with team7 beforehand.

I'll speak about Konoha alone now why they cant let Kumo deal with Sasuke...It is quite easy like they wanted Byakugan they can do the same with Sharingan it is too dangerous

[chitgoks]

They are all, Sakura included, going to lose faith in Narutos goal to not give up on Sasuke.

Naruto will have to stand alone on his beliefs and not give up, even when the people he relied on to support him stand in his way.

The only one who might not is Kakashi. The 4th basically said "follow the kid" .. and that is enough for him. He is a believer.

naruto will sooner or later admit it that it's a lost cause. he has to lose faith in sasuke and stop him. im betting that cactus akatsuki is in cahoots with danzou.

that was basically a suspicious appearance just when that byakugan guy saw through danzou's hardly surprising shisui eye

[Raizen]

Who are the people in this page? This page confused me
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/

Also, as for the rookies going against sasuke. ALl I can say is ABOUT DAMN TIME!! Someone needs to put that kid in his place. Out of the rookies, the only ninja that I see that can give sasuke trouble is neji, shino, shikamaru, and of course naruto can beat him. But this isn't just a 1-on-1 fight. The rookies plan to attack him together. There is no way sasuke can fight against the rookies

[Vladnik]

If neji, ten ten and lee were capable they wouldn't have gotten owned by water clones with have a tenth of the original's power. but they're not capable hence my judgement that they're weak.

They got owned by the same technique, Kakashi was owned with too...it is not shame when u dont know about it to get caught....

[samtorx]

The fact that Shisuis eye is in Danzou doesn't inherently prove anything though. Tobi could have it as well ... there's no inherent proof that he actually is Madara to this point.

good point. but Tobi does take off his mask and is recognized by Akatsuki as Madara (when Tobi talks to Kisame), so Tobi definitely is Madara or at the very very least someone who everyone recognizes as Madara. (Maybe somenoe's passing themselves off as Madara who knows <_< i maybe have to eat my words)

The only way I see that Danzo could be Madara is if Madara went throughout his clans generations stealing the techniques they achieved, such as Shisui's mind control. That might fit along the lines of the "sacrifices" in the Uchiha clan that Itatchi mentioned to Sasuke even though he was talking about the eternal mangekyo.

Still... What a strange guy Danzo is. Likely he ordered Itatchi to get his right eye for him or something but seriously Danzo's been around for ages. Back in the 3rd war or whatever he couldn't have had Shisui's eye but obviously he played a big role, perhaps manipulation.

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Also I don't get all this talk about who could defeat who. It's a story guys geez. Anyone can beat whoever the fuck they want if that's how kishi wants it to be. Konohamaru could beat Sasuke if that's how it's meant to be. In my opinion, who's the strongest arguments are pointless; it's the story and characters that are interesting. Who can beat who is discussion meant for UFC.

[ashher]

Really? That was never the case for me. I always felt Sasuke was a good shinobi, but I was always rooting for Naruto over him and have always liked Naruto far more. The cool things he did like him stabbing himself in the hand the way he did as a promise that he would not let Sasuke out do him or that he'd be better. Or the way he took that stabbed from Kabuto to hold onto him for the Rasengan. There's a rawness to Naruto that Sasuke will just never have.

Well everuone feels in different ways.

However if you do feel that way and want to see sasuke mowed than get back,then i think its fault on kishi's part not to be able to make his readers relate with how naruto and team7 feels.

Its alright to feel; hatred/dislike for sasuke if you were in position of other rookies,but we have heard the story of team7 too closely not to feel sorry for sasuke

[Raizen]

First Sasuke wound from Itachi fight din't heal complete
If killer had the chance to kill Sasuke, why he din't?
Second is hard to capture a person them to kill them
1- Sasuke was no longer injured from his fight with itachi. Itachi never inflicted any fatal blows. THe only injury was that sasuke was exhausted. And he had plenty of time to rest. U think he would engage in battle with a jinjurriki if he was not fully recovered?
2- Killer killed sasuke twice. Sasuke would have died if his teammates didn't have some lame healing hax
3- They couldn't even injure him, so that whole "capturing is harder than kiling" is nothing but bullshit

[Sentou Ryoku]

I like how Neji's all like 'Shikamaru failed his first mission so let him deal with the crybaby' attitude...considering it's the same mission he almost died in. Also, no words of comfort from Lee? Has he gotten over Sakura already?

Not quite sure if I like the idea of ninja eye transplants...it's like the IN thing to do in Narutoverse lately.

[elitefox]

Huh? "Kisame is too strong therefore I can't make a judgement". That's your argument that they would wipe the floor with Sasuke? LMAO

If neji, ten ten and lee were capable they wouldn't have gotten owned by water clones with have a tenth of the original's power. but they're not capable hence my judgement that they're weak.

we haven't seen what kiba can do, but during the tobi "fight" all he did was the same damn move he used in part 1. i'm not even sure what development he could get that would help him deal with the threats sasuke possesses. he'd need a complete change in combat style to deal with sasuke's elemental jutsu.

As for shino, he uses bugs. sasuke can impale them with chidori nagashi. it's just a lopsided match, no matter how good shino is with his bugs. it's a repeat of deidara's c3 except deidara had other tricks up his sleeve. shino just uses bugs.

That's fine, thanks for proving my point: sasuke beat him fair and square. deidara had the ability to do better but due to emotional problems sasuke outsmarted him. it doesn't really matter what excuses you invent for deidara.

And here is where your hateboyism is so damn obvious:

when ten ten, neji and lee get owned by 10% strength clones of a 30% kisame, you dismiss it. When sasuke takes on a full strength akatsuki (+ tobi on the side) you make excuses: oh, sasuke figured out how to disarm his bombs. oh, he was pmsing. hilarious really.

Nope. He held back until the situation was so dire that he thought there was no chance of capturing and had to use amaterasu. at which point the fight ended in a stalemate since killerbee was using the situation to get out of his village. anyway, even if killerbee is stronger than he is (and I think he is), how does that change the fact that the rookie 9 and team gai are, for the most part, fodder level?

What is this, Bleach? "Master amaterasu"? What's to master? He turns it on and black fire devours whatever he stares at. Where do you come up with this shit?

well for the water clone part, even kakashi can't do anything one's imprisoned, most likely they haven't have experienced dealing with it, hey most likely fall for the trap like kakashi...

and btw, killerbee had killed sasuke many times if and only if he has no medical jutsu experts on the team, and there were 2.

yeah, mostly shino's bugs can't do anything but how many bugs does he have? how much chakra does sasuke have and without the curse seal, I do think its even

[Darth Executor]

anyone else notice juugo's in little kid form?

[know all]

for some reason i haven't see anyone mentioning Naruto's full recovery. i think that is why kishi didn't show him last week. and remember when ever he recover from an enjury, he comes back even stronger just like Saiyans in dragonball z.

[TeamSeven]

Hmm nothing to say Zetsu understands Tobis power fully either though. He could be saying that simply because he "appears" places even faster than zetsu does.

I'm thinking of it this way .. ever read older X-men comics? The Onslaught storyline? They promoted it with the whole "who is Onslaught, and why can nobody beat him" angle for awhile - when it turned out there wasn't an Onslaught ... physically at least. It was all professor X in peoples minds.

If Danzou has developed Shisuis eye technique to the point of mind manipulation, Tobi could very easily be a similar construct.

[Darth Executor]

well for the water clone part, even kakashi can't do anything one's imprisoned, most likely they haven't have experienced dealing with it, hey most likely fall for the trap like kakashi...

a master of stealth kills snuck up behind kakashi while he was in an awkward position. team gai got caught WHILE ATTACKING (IE: with the enemy in full view). They're incompetent, which is why they got caught in such a stupid manner.


and btw, killerbee had killed sasuke many times if and only if he has no medical jutsu experts on the team, and there were 2.


2 times is not many, and as I said, they were trying to capture him.


yeah, mostly shino's bugs can't do anything but how many bugs does he have? how much chakra does sasuke have and without the curse seal, I do think its even

He won't need to expand much. shino surrounds sasuke with bugs, sasuke smirks and chidori nagashis them then uses shunshin to appear right next to shino like he did with naruto in oro's lair and cleaves him in half with his sword.

[Majinking]

le't me put it this way;)
i have a cancer but i don't see no physical sight effect..
go read manga, he wound din't heal.
It really does not matter. Killerbee was not at full power. I could even prove it.

Here we see Killerbee training with his bijuu.

http://media2.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000064182/16.jpg

and here we see that he was traning with it all night.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/17/

The comment about the sun being too bright proves that.

Here it states that using the bijuu takes nearly all his strength.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/419/17/

Meaning that he still wiped the floor with A Sasuke who had a wound which was healing while killerbee had almost no strength. I think that pretty much makes it even. Oh and if Taka was not there, Sasuke would have been dead twice over.

[Jadedmariner]

He won't need to expand much. shino surrounds sasuke with bugs, sasuke smirks and chidori nagashis them then uses shunshin to appear right next to shino like he did with naruto in oro's lair and cleaves him in half with his sword.

I don't think we've ever seen that kind of attack jutsu used against his bugs. I mean if they were defeated that easily they don't seem like they would be such an important clan. I doubt they could deal with Amaterasu, but something tells me they are capable of countering a jutsu on the level of Chidori Nagashi.

[ChocoBar9]

Huh? "Kisame is too strong therefore I can't make a judgement". That's your argument that they would wipe the floor with Sasuke? LMAO


If neji, ten ten and lee were capable they wouldn't have gotten owned by water clones with have a tenth of the original's power. but they're not capable hence my judgement that they're weak.

we haven't seen what kiba can do, but during the tobi "fight" all he did was the same damn move he used in part 1. i'm not even sure what development he could get that would help him deal with the threats sasuke possesses. he'd need a complete change in combat style to deal with sasuke's elemental jutsu.

As for shino, he uses bugs. sasuke can impale them with chidori nagashi. it's just a lopsided match, no matter how good shino is with his bugs. it's a repeat of deidara's c3 except deidara had other tricks up his sleeve. shino just uses bugs.

:facepalm
My god could you be so damn shortsighted, oh wait Sasuke fanboy nevermind. :eyeroll
HOW MANY JUTSU HAS NEJI, LEE, TENTEN, KIBA, AND SHINO USED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF PART II, HOW MANY BATTLES HAD NEJI, LEE, TENTEN, KIBA AND SHINO BEEN A PART OF IN PART II. What's that? Exactly but given your own mentality you see it as "oh noes neji, lee, and tenten were captured by kisame clone they suck now" (considering the fact that Neji was able to release them easily to allow Guy to get the finishing blow), we don't know shit about Kiba or shino's abilities to past judgement on them but if you continue on your childish rampant of Sasuke>all then how can anyone take what you say seriously?



That's fine, thanks for proving my point: sasuke beat him fair and square. deidara had the ability to do better but due to emotional problems sasuke outsmarted him. it doesn't really matter what excuses you invent for deidara.
What point? All you did was list suggestions of how Deidara could have won the fight (unproven BTW) and I said you were wrong since Deidara was already outclassed when the match began given his mentality and his element being inferior, so thanks for not proving a point.



And here is where your hateboyism is so damn obvious:

when ten ten, neji and lee get owned by 10% strength clones of a 30% kisame, you dismiss it. When sasuke takes on a full strength akatsuki (+ tobi on the side) you make excuses: oh, sasuke figured out how to disarm his bombs. oh, he was pmsing. hilarious really.
And once again your own retarded fanboyism clouds your own ability to make a point, I never stated that Sasuke shouldn't have won against Deidara and fact still remains that Kisame, Pain and Kazuzu were all stronger than Dediara. Seriously you try too hard :p



Nope. He held back until the situation was so dire that he thought there was no chance of capturing and had to use amaterasu. at which point the fight ended in a stalemate since killerbee was using the situation to get out of his village. anyway, even if killerbee is stronger than he is (and I think he is), how does that change the fact that the rookie 9 and team gai are, for the most part, fodder level?
Let me repeat myself, NOTHING STATES THAT SASUKE WAS HOLDING BACK THE DURATION OF THE BATTLE, if he was holding back he wouldn't have gotten to that point when he realized Oh shit, this is serious. You state that their fodder level when you can't even provide sufficient evidence to support this, how does that make you any better, BTW:
Fact=/=Opinion
Learn the difference.




What is this, Bleach? "Master amaterasu"? What's to master? He turns it on and black fire devours whatever he stares at. Where do you come up with this shit?
:facepalm
Well it's obvious who I'm dealing with here...

[TeamSeven]

naruto will sooner or later admit it that it's a lost cause. he has to lose faith in sasuke and stop him. im betting that cactus akatsuki is in cahoots with danzou.

that was basically a suspicious appearance just when that byakugan guy saw through danzou's hardly surprising shisui eye

No, he won't. Doing so would involve giving up, and that would violate everything Kishi has been building in his character development.

Besides .. how is Sasuke a lost cause? Again, Shikimaru doesn't have a clue what Sasuke is actually doing. And to this point, aside from that one cloud tracker, he hasn't even taken out anyone save Diedara and Orochimaru.

There are guys at that Kage table (Kages no less) that have done far worse. Gaara ... one of the heroes of the story now, being one of them.

[Raizen]

a master of stealth kills snuck up behind kakashi while he was in an awkward position. team gai got caught WHILE ATTACKING (IE: with the enemy in full view). They're incompetent, which is why they got caught in such a stupid manner.



2 times is not many, and as I said, they were trying to capture him.



He won't need to expand much. shino surrounds sasuke with bugs, sasuke smirks and chidori nagashis them then uses shunshin to appear right next to shino like he did with naruto in oro's lair and cleaves him in half with his sword.
1- They got caught b/c kisame was able to creat a water clone from anywhere b/c the whole battlefield was covered in water. U seem to keep focus on just the capture and seem to neglect that neji was able to break out of it BY HIMSELF and yet not even kaksahi can do that
2- Being killed 2 times is not many? How is that logical? In a battle one time if more than enough and yet u said being killed twice is not a lot.
My sasuke fan-boy alert is going off
3- Not that easy, those bugs eat chakra, chidori is pure chakra, so no it won't be that easy. Shino is tricky sun of a gun. Sasuke won't have an easy battle with him

[ashher]

Hmm nothing to say Zetsu understands Tobis power fully either though. He could be saying that simply because he "appears" places even faster than zetsu does.

I'm thinking of it this way .. ever read older X-men comics? The Onslaught storyline? They promoted it with the whole "who is Onslaught, and why can nobody beat him" angle for awhile - when it turned out there wasn't an Onslaught ... physically at least. It was all professor X in peoples minds.

If Danzou has developed Shisuis eye technique to the point of mind manipulation, Tobi could very easily be a similar construct.

If danzou could really pull something like this,then why didn't he just backstabbed tsunade during sleep,then created an image of hers and controll the village without suffering all these problems?

[TeamSeven]

You know, technically, Sasuke didn't even take out Orochimaru and Diedara. Diedara suicide bombed himself, and Oro simply failed in his own attack and Itachi finished him off.

We don't know for sure that Sasuke has killed a single person to this point

[ameya730]

this year seems to be kishi's year of mystery cause the last couple of chapters have thrown in so much plot and plot twists its getting really difficult to predict what is going to happen

this chapter itself has so many minor details revealed its awesome

madara is in iron country so where is black zetsu and why did zetsu need to seperate

why did zetsu reveal sasuke's prescence

from sasuke's reaction it seems he knew that zetsu was about to leave them

is there another sasuke rescue capturing/killing arc about to start

where is the hell is naruto did he get a room in iron country what about kakashi and yamato

Ao back story danzou back story

which of the 12 are going to go after sasuke my guess: sakura neji shikamaru shino/kiba and sai

damn why is there a break next week thankfully we have 50 pages of D GrayMan and FMA to look forward to :p

[lexx]

I don't think we've ever seen that kind of attack jutsu used against his bugs. I mean if they were defeated that easily they don't seem like they would be such an important clan. I doubt they could deal with Amaterasu, but something tells me they are capable of countering a jutsu on the level of Chidori Nagashi.

Likely not. Chidori alone is an A-level technique used by only two ninjas in the world. Sasuke's also taken the chidori beyond what Kakshi had, and has all sorta of wacky shape manipulations (chidori sword, chidori current). The thing about Chidori is that it's a limited-use technique for Sasuke, since its power is largely drawn from a whole-body cellular activation which can't be repeated too many times in short order.

The strength of the bugs is in their scale. They suck chakra and basically can't be eluded without using a time/space technique. No matter how many times Sasuke whips out a fireball, or a Chidori current, the bugs will still give chase, since their numbers seem to be massive.

Shino's bugs would speed up the attrition of Sasuke's stamina during a fight at best, but hey, that counts for something.

[TeamSeven]

If danzou could really pull something like this,then why didn't he just backstabbed tsunade during sleep,then created an image of hers and controll the village without suffering all these problems?

Spreading it throughout an entire village, as he would have to when Hokage makes public appearances, would mean controlling thousands of people at once. That may be too taxing even for him.

Besides, he wants more than behind the scenes power.

I think that is the reason for "Madara". Make them believe in something they fear enough ... and you can manipulate them into giving you total power. It was ... pretty much working.

The only real rub for this idea would be that the 4th would have to be mistaken about the Kyuubi attack. A pretty serious flaw though.

[Raizen]

Likely not. Chidori alone is an A-level technique used by only two ninjas in the world. Sasuke's also taken the chidori beyond what Kakshi had, and has all sorta of wacky shape manipulations (chidori sword, chidori current). The thing about Chidori is that it's a limited-use technique for Sasuke, since its power is largely drawn from a whole-body cellular activation which can't be repeated too many times in short order.

The strength of the bugs is in their scale. They suck chakra and basically can't be eluded without using a time/space technique. No matter how many times Sasuke whips out a fireball, or a Chidori current, the bugs will still give chase, since their numbers seem to be massive.

Shino's bugs would speed up the attrition of Sasuke's stamina during a fight at best, but hey, that counts for something.
"Two ninjas in the world"?? More like only seen used by 2 ninjas. Big difference :notrust
Also, he did not take chidori further then raikiri. Last I check, all of sasuke's variants are still A-class while raikiri is S-class. All sasuke did was lower the energy of chidori so that he could shape it

[elitefox]

It really does not matter. Killerbee was not at full power. I could even prove it.

Here we see Killerbee training with his bijuu.

http://media2.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000064182/16.jpg

and here we see that he was traning with it all night.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/17/

The comment about the sun being too bright proves that.

Here it states that using the bijuu takes nearly all his strength.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/419/17/

Meaning that he still wiped the floor with A Sasuke who had a wound which was healing while killerbee had almost no strength. I think that pretty much makes it even. Oh and if Taka was not there, Sasuke would have been dead twice over.

:facepalm Double Dead :facepalm
cannot even be sold in the market :D


I don't think we've ever seen that kind of attack jutsu used against his bugs. I mean if they were defeated that easily they don't seem like they would be such an important clan. I doubt they could deal with Amaterasu, but something tells me they are capable of countering a jutsu on the level of Chidori Nagashi.

yup, oh I forgot they can suck chakra :D

[ashher]

:facepalm
My god could you be so damn shortsighted, oh wait Sasuke fanboy nevermind. :eyeroll
HOW MANY JUTSU HAS NEJI, LEE, TENTEN, KIBA, AND SHINO USED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF PART II, HOW MANY BATTLES HAD NEJI, LEE, TENTEN, KIBA AND SHINO BEEN A PAR[/[B]B]T OF IN PART II. What's that? Exactly but given your own mentality you see it as "oh noes neji, lee, and tenten were captured by kisame clone they suck now" (considering the fact that Neji was able to release them easily to allow Guy to get the finishing blow), we don't know shit about Kiba or shino's abilities to past judgement on them but if you continue on your childish rampant of Sasuke>all then how can anyone take what you say seriously?


What point? All you did was list suggestions of how Deidara could have won the fight (unproven BTW) and I said you were wrong since Deidara was already outclassed when the match began given his mentality and his element being inferior, so thanks for not proving a point.


And once again your own retarded fanboyism clouds your own ability to make a point, I never stated that Sasuke shouldn't have won against Deidara and fact still remains that Kisame, Pain and Kazuzu were all stronger than Dediara. Seriously you try too hard :p


Let me repeat myself, NOTHING STATES THAT SASUKE WAS HOLDING BACK THE DURATION OF THE BATTLE, if he was holding back he wouldn't have gotten to that point when he realized Oh shit, this is serious. You state that their fodder level when you can't even provide sufficient evidence to support this, how does that make you any better, BTW:
Fact=/=Opinion
Learn the difference.



:facepalm
Well it's obvious who I'm dealing with here...

Please calm down a little.

I think it was pointless of darth executer to say that sasuke held back against killer bee.
But it is pointless for you to say that all the rookies improved as much as sasuke has.
It has been clear from the beginning that sasuke and naruto are gonna be rivals of close calibres.It right at this moment naruto is above them(as said by shikaku),then so is sasuke.
Jetsu sai dthat that sasuke is weaker than naruto, but he didn't know that sasuke has learned amataresu .And only after leraning amataresu sasuke attacked konoha.
So sage mode of naruto and amataresu of sasuke should at the same level,which is way beyond others as kishin hasn't even cared for developing them,as you yourself has said.

[TeamSeven]

The bugs can absorb chakra, but can they simply absorb chakra that has already been elementally transfigured and spatially shaped in that way like hungry ghost could?

I wasn't under that impression

[elitefox]

1- They got caught b/c kisame was able to creat a water clone from anywhere b/c the whole battlefield was covered in water. U seem to keep focus on just the capture and seem to neglect that neji was able to break out of it BY HIMSELF and yet not even kaksahi can do that
2- Being killed 2 times is not many? How is that logical? In a battle one time if more than enough and yet u said being killed twice is not a lot.
My sasuke fan-boy alert is going off
3- Not that easy, those bugs eat chakra, chidori is pure chakra, so no it won't be that easy. Shino is tricky sun of a gun. Sasuke won't have an easy battle with him

Agreed.

[Majinking]

:facepalm Double Dead :facepalm
cannot even be sold in the market :D

Please explain your reply. I do not get the picture.:)

[KiSwordsman]

OMFG, i knew i should keep having faith in naruto

I have been bashing naruto so much lately,

you kinda contradicted yourself there man

[Thabor]

Boy.. We seriously needs some mods in here.. Why don't you guys take all the fantasy fight and other crud to an appropriate thread.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

Quite a good chapter. I like the fact that the other members of Konoha 11 are taking matters into their own hands regarding Sasuke. It about damn time they do so.

[lexx]

Please explain your reply. I do not get the picture.:)

Ugh your signature is disturbing.

Wow...I wonder how much of Orochimaru was inspired by Michael Jackson? He was a child prodigy, more of a freak later in life. He transformed into a woman at one point, spoke like a creepy girl, and had unhealthy and suspicious relationships with a child prodigy.

...

and now they're both dead. And it's funny, there's even a parallel in how they went. Orochimaru got sucked up and sealed in a blissful dream-like state. Jackson OD'ed on an opiate and died.

[ashher]

Spreading it throughout an entire village, as he would have to when Hokage makes public appearances, would mean controlling thousands of people at once. That may be too taxing even for him.

Besides, he wants more than behind the scenes power.

I think that is the reason for "Madara". Make them believe in something they fear enough ... and you can manipulate them into giving you total power. It was ... pretty much working.

The only real rub for this idea would be that the 4th would have to be mistaken about the Kyuubi attack. A pretty serious flaw though.

Well as you said there are rubs.Like creating illusions to all these shinobis of so many villages whereas he himself was stuck under surveillance by tsunade.

Also there was a chance that madara isn't madara.In that case I would have gone for shisui,but in 459 it seems danzo not only got his eye but also whole right side,so i think he is dead after all.

[ChocoBar9]

Please calm down a little.

I think it was pointless of darth executer to say that sasuke held back against killer bee.
But it is pointless for you to say that all the rookies improved as much as sasuke has.
It has been clear from the beginning that sasuke and naruto are gonna be rivals of close calibres.It right at this moment naruto is above them(as said by shikaku),then so is sasuke.
Jetsu sai dthat that sasuke is weaker than naruto, but he didn't know that sasuke has learned amataresu .And only after leraning amataresu sasuke attacked konoha.
So sage mode of naruto and amataresu of sasuke should at the same level,which is way beyond others as kishin hasn't even cared for developing them,as you yourself has said.
Agreed. Not saying they're Naruto or Sasuke level BTW.

[Raizen]

The bugs can absorb chakra, but can they simply absorb chakra that has already been elementally transfigured and spatially shaped in that way like hungry ghost could?

I wasn't under that impression
Why couldn't they? All chisori is is chakra in the form of lightning element. It is not like the chakra is molded into something like rock or water

[elitefox]

I now wonder what will the bugs turn into if they absorb the sage chakra? frogs?

anyways back to topic, what will the samurai's do if akatsuki attack iron land? Can they put up a resistance or they are just plain people. Will tobi join the fight too?

Ao said that shisui manipulated the former mizukage and tobi is misukage as stated by kisame...

[Raizen]

I was wondering how sasuke and his team got out of the place undetected. I understand them entering undetected b/c there were no ninjas there when they entered. But the room was filled with powerful ninjas, so that seems a bit unrealistic.

Also, that page with zetsu talking to madara and sasuke and his team. What is that suppose to show?

[ashher]

Why couldn't they? All chisori is is chakra in the form of lightning element. It is not like the chakra is molded into something like rock or water

Because before eating chakra,all the bugas are gonna be shocked:D

[ameya730]

Likely not. Chidori alone is an A-level technique used by only two ninjas in the world. Sasuke's also taken the chidori beyond what Kakshi had, and has all sorta of wacky shape manipulations (chidori sword, chidori current). The thing about Chidori is that it's a limited-use technique for Sasuke, since its power is largely drawn from a whole-body cellular activation which can't be repeated too many times in short order.

The strength of the bugs is in their scale. They suck chakra and basically can't be eluded without using a time/space technique. No matter how many times Sasuke whips out a fireball, or a Chidori current, the bugs will still give chase, since their numbers seem to be massive.

Shino's bugs would speed up the attrition of Sasuke's stamina during a fight at best, but hey, that counts for something.

can you tell me where it says that sasuke's chidori is related to whole body celllular acativation cause i dont think thats the case the only techinique that i remember having cellular activation is tsunade genesis rebirth techinique(i think thats what it is called) where the regeneration of the cells is increased greatly

[DarkManSharingan32]

I was wondering how sasuke and his team got out of the place undetected. I understand them entering undetected b/c there were no ninjas there when they entered. But the room was filled with powerful ninjas, so that seems a bit unrealistic.

Also, that page with zetsu talking to madara and sasuke and his team. What is that suppose to show?

1) Obliterates Tobi/Madara = Danzou.
2) Shows that Sasuke and his group had already left... SO, there will be a chase of some sort in the next chapter.

[Jadedmariner]

The bugs can absorb chakra, but can they simply absorb chakra that has already been elementally transfigured and spatially shaped in that way like hungry ghost could?

I wasn't under that impression

We don't know, but if they can't it would mean that Aburame clan members would never progress beyond Chuunin since they would be eaten alive by Jounins elemental ninjutsu.

[lexx]

can you tell me where it says that sasuke's chidori is related to whole body celllular acativation cause i dont think thats the case the only techinique that i remember having cellular activation is tsunade genesis rebirth techinique(i think thats what it is called) where the regeneration of the cells is increased greatly

They refer to Chidori as "body activation" rather than Tsunami's "cellular activation".

Basically, he activates every cell in his body to pump out a shit ton of chakra instantly, decreasing the time needed to gather chakra for his technique and giving him the massive amount of chakra needed to make it effective. This is why Sasuke could only pull off two shots as a genin, and why Kakashi is limited to 4.

[Raizen]

1) Obliterates Tobi/Madara = Danzou.
2) Shows that Sasuke and his group had already left... SO, there will be a chase of some sort in the next chapter.
What is madara planning?
He went to all that trouble to get sasuke and now he is endangering his life? Hopefully all of taka will be eliminated and sasuke will be forced to get his bros eyes
[hr]

They refer to Chidori as "body activation" rather than Tsunami's "cellular activation".

Basically, he activates every cell in his body to pump out a shit ton of chakra instantly, decreasing the time needed to gather chakra for his technique and giving him the massive amount of chakra needed to make it effective. This is why Sasuke could only pull off two shots as a genin, and why Kakashi is limited to 4.
Doesn't every jutsu do that? Basically what you are talking about is the chakra point being activated when one uses a jutsu. Kakashi explained this when neji was fighting hinata. This body activation is not unique only to sasuke

[chris188]

Niceee chapter !!

so danzou got sharingan b/c he stole it from that guy o.o

my predictions that what is going to happen since zetsu came out
they all going to start lookinq for sasuke they going to forget about danzous eye crontollin mifune etc etc

what you guys think?

please stop talkinq about other topics here is just predictions etc etc

thanks =]

[DarkManSharingan32]

What is madara planning?
He went to all that trouble to get sasuke and now he is endangering his life? Hopefully all of taka will be eliminated and sasuke will be forced to get his bros eyes

Well who knows exactly... But we do know that he wants prying eyes off of what he's about to do. It's likely that he is using this revelation as a way to cause panic and a distraction to what he truly wants.

Maybe a face to face conversation with Danzou... Maybe to drive Sasuke into a corner... AT this point it's a little too vague... But if this is the first step in the Moon's Eye plan, maybe it has to do with the various doujutsu around?

[ashher]

We don't know, but if they can't it would mean that Aburame clan members would never progress beyond Chuunin since they would be eaten alive by Jounins elemental ninjutsu.

Well if the bugs could eat all the elemental jutsus then all Aburames should have been hokages:p

[lawlord]

This was slightly hard to notice but, Sasuke has made a move.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/

Here he is outside of the meeting place, and Juugo is in his child form. Sasuke says "heh", which for Sasuke always means he's done something he considers awesome. Or that he doesn't care Zetsu has left.


If you look carefully, the Zetsu Madara tells to go, is the black sided one. Yet the one who appears at the meeting is the white Zetsu. Madara's plan does not involve the white Zetsu! Sasuke has told the white half/genjutsue'd him into doing that act. Im telling you Sasuke has made a move and Zetsu was part of his plan.

This is why he shows no surprise to hear Zetsu is gone. HE PLANNED THIS!!!


What's interesting is to see Sasuke's plan for this. He's pretty much shikamaru when it comes to planning for battles (see Itachi fight).

[Raizen]

Well if the bugs could eat all the elemental jutsus then all Aburames should have been hokages:p
Not true. It depends on the techniques. U don't see the bugs eating water or rock because tehy aren't pure chakra. They are chakra being molded add shaped. Chidori is different. It is just chakra with lightning attribute. So the bug can adapt and counter it. But it is really just my opinion

Also, so Ao figured that is was a sharingan user who controlled the 4th mizukage. And people probably mentioned this already but the 4th mizukage was the 3rd jinurriki :XD
[hr]

This was slightly hard to notice but, Sasuke has made a move.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/

Here he is outside of the meeting place, and Juugo is in his child form. Sasuke says "heh", which for Sasuke always means he's done something he considers awesome. Or that he doesn't care Zetsu has left.


If you look carefully, the Zetsu Madara tells to go, is the black sided one. Yet the one who appears at the meeting is the white Zetsu. Madara's plan does not involve the white Zetsu! Sasuke has told the white half/genjutsue'd him into doing that act. Im telling you Sasuke has made a move and Zetsu was part of his plan.

This is why he shows no surprise to hear Zetsu is gone. HE PLANNED THIS!!!


What's interesting is to see Sasuke's plan for this. He's pretty much shikamaru when it comes to planning for battles (see Itachi fight).
Your giving him props for something that has yet to be proven? All it is is an assumption

[elitefox]

[QUOTE=Raizen;1504478]What is madara planning?
He went to all that trouble to get sasuke and now he is endangering his life? Hopefully all of taka will be eliminated and sasuke will be forced to get his bros eyes
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hmm, like the idea, maybe tobi is thinking of getting an ems implant?
maybe tobi wants to try out something ems + ems what will happen? since ms is deteriorating;)

just some crazy idea :blink

[Jadedmariner]

Well if the bugs could eat all the elemental jutsus then all Aburames should have been hokages:p

I never said they should be capable of consuming all of them, but if they can't consume any they are a really weak clan. Chidori Nagashi is a nice jutsu, but it isn't something like Amaterasu or FRS that should be impossible for the bugs to deal with.

[ameya730]

This was slightly hard to notice but, Sasuke has made a move.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/

Here he is outside of the meeting place, and Juugo is in his child form. Sasuke says "heh", which for Sasuke always means he's done something he considers awesome. Or that he doesn't care Zetsu has left.


If you look carefully, the Zetsu Madara tells to go, is the black sided one. Yet the one who appears at the meeting is the white Zetsu. Madara's plan does not involve the white Zetsu! Sasuke has told the white half/genjutsue'd him into doing that act. Im telling you Sasuke has made a move and Zetsu was part of his plan.

This is why he shows no surprise to hear Zetsu is gone. HE PLANNED THIS!!!


What's interesting is to see Sasuke's plan for this. He's pretty much shikamaru when it comes to planning for battles (see Itachi fight).

nice catch i missed that one.......so madara and black zetsu are finally getting putting their plan into action although i still fail to see how sasuke is involved in all this

[lexx]

What is madara planning?
He went to all that trouble to get sasuke and now he is endangering his life? Hopefully all of taka will be eliminated and sasuke will be forced to get his bros eyes
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Doesn't every jutsu do that? Basically what you are talking about is the chakra point being activated when one uses a jutsu. Kakashi explained this when neji was fighting hinata. This body activation is not unique only to sasuke

No there's something special to it. It's not a unique technique that only a few people can do, it's just something dangerous that you can only do a few times in a row. Again, read past chapters.

[ameya730]

I never said they should be capable of consuming all of them, but if they can't consume any they are a really weak clan. Chidori Nagashi is a nice jutsu, but it isn't something like Amaterasu or FRS that should be impossible for the bugs to deal with.

i think the bugs are only limited to eating the chakra they cant eat chakra when it is composed in elemental form so chidori nagashi being chakra in lightning form the bugs would be helpless against it

if shino's bugs could truly eat chakra in any form then they would be as good as that pain body that could absorb any jutsu which is dont think is the case

[TeamSeven]

We don't know, but if they can't it would mean that Aburame clan members would never progress beyond Chuunin since they would be eaten alive by Jounins elemental ninjutsu.


Yes, but if you assume they could eat the chidori, wouldn't you have to also assume the could fly in and eat a rasenshuriken?

I just don't see that happening. They would be sliced up before they even started absorbing.

I wasn't under the impression you had to be a dominant fighter necessarily to become a Jounin. They could be elite in other areas like information gathering, strategy, tracking, etc.

Plus, we haven't seen a ton of characters that have full field elemental jutsu. Normally there are gaps and openings, or they have directed attacks like Rakiri that the swarm could avoid.

[chris188]

oh man nice one about sasuke white zetsu etc
but what was madaras plan?


sasuke sent the white zetsu to do da maybe wit his genjutsu etc
so people would start lookinq for him and then attack danzou?

or is hi planninq sumthinq else?


idk what madara planninq on doin but he told the black zetsu
if he was ready and they at the meetinq place in the same village

[lawlord]

nice catch i missed that one.......so madara and black zetsu are finally getting putting their plan into action although i still fail to see how sasuke is involved in all this

because why is Juugo a child? Why does Sasuke not care that Zetsu has gone? Why has he left his target, Danzou? Why would Madara, in his plan, tell White Zetsu to tell all the Kages that Sasuke was in the building if he wanted Sasuke to kill Danzou? He wouldn't. All these actions reek of Sasuke planning. He's planned something with White Zetsu.

[VashisLeet]

I for one am just happy that the Madara = Danzou theories are now officially dead and defunct......

I for one am calling that the mandara that talked with zetsu was a shadow clone:D

[Asusp3v4x]

What amazing chapter that was, surely one of the best chapters i have read in the Naruto series so far, the little emotions building up from page to page, until the final part where Zetsu makes his entrance... indeed epic in every level, the revelations, the art, the tricks *_*, yes yes, the tricks I loved it... everything was placed in an amazing way... perfectly I could say...

Enough with the fanboyism and straight to the tiny pieces... Danzou is half Uchiha is half Frankestein and half mummy who could have thought that he was actually... err... that part of this frog killing mummy is actually Shisui... even his hair matches completely...

*Looks at drawings... *

okay maybe not -_-... but it doesn't matter he has something with the uchiha and that makes everybody happy...

By the way... his right arm... seems just like a huge muscular arm while the other seems to be a simple arm... damn... does this guy has been picking people's parts all over the place or he just likes to exercise the right part of his body...

maybe he is a tennis player...

Anyway... Danzou is sly ... he moves like a snake straight to the meeting to make himself the leader of an alliance that would probably put everybody to his feet... smart smart samr...damn unbelievable I can't write 3 smarts...

But guess what, we had a byakugan placed strategically behind that guy whose name I forgot, pirate Eye patch... he could see everything, I mean everything ;) that Danzou was hiding... amazing he got caught while trying to steal the chicken :XD...:oh... okay maybe I will work on a better joke next time...

Beyond the Shisui surprise, because I know... nobody was expecting that... YEAH... nobody ò_ó... don't ruin this... I am sleepy...I will bite you... look look I am ninja... if i remove that mask I will go Rambo on you...

We also had that amazing part where Sakura once again proved that... she doesn't love Naruto for real, but just as a friend... maybe... *yeah yeah NaruSaku fans go crazy... the girl has spoken... she couldn't be more cold with her words* and that apparently she and Ino... on no let me fix... they both absolutely love Sasuke... and they obviously don't want any harm coming to him

*The catch is saving Sasuke form himself let me tell ya*

Naruto once again dreaming of saving his friend... I am starting to feel sorry for Naruto... again... he is suffering way too much, and just like Sai said... too many people depend on him, so he is evidently under heavy pressure... hmmm... i wonder if naruto will brake... Pain was one thing... but now ... THIS IS Sasuke... a whole new deal of destruction and Pain...*Sleepy Sleepy*

Naruto now has a choice to make... or a serious of choices to make... first he has to decide if whether or not he will continue to try saving Sasuke *yes I bet ;)* second, if he intends to save him... will he fight him... to the death ??? *after all... things are getting complicated, naruto is super strong but Sasuke is super sly, and he can't take Sasuke anywhere...without saying the fact that he will be considered Konoha's enemy if he helps Sasuke*...

C... yeah C... should he change his cloths and finally Gamma...yes Gamma... I am studying to be physicist so I must use Greek letters without knowing nothing about Greek... when is he going to Kiss Hinata

*No I am not a Naruhina fan... but I want to see some love and romance...okay... maybe I am little bit of a Naruhina fan...*

The chapter ends with, what sounds like a huge backstabbing oO... Zetsun simply said Hello and revealed that Sasuke was there... what the heck... didn't Tobi needed Sasuke...???? I wonder what is the logic behind that plan... Sasuke will be killed on sight... OR... the Kages will be killed on sight... ¬¬... I hope not... but Kishi does have some liking for putting elites characters as weaklings *Cough*ANBU*Cough*...

Great chapter top to bottle... I LOVE IT... damn... now back the things I was doing

[elitefox]

i think the bugs are only limited to eating the chakra they cant eat chakra when it is composed in elemental form so chidori nagashi being chakra in lightning form the bugs would be helpless against it

if shino's bugs could truly eat chakra in any form then they would be as good as that pain body that could absorb any jutsu which is dont think is the case

yep I think that's the catch:p

but anyways, sasuke still can't do too much chidori in a row much like that defensive which I think involves more chakra. i don't it depends on that jutsu alone. unlike the bombs, this are living things.:darn

[Ichiban D]

Isn't the white Zetsu a shadow clone? i remember the translations a couple of chapters back saying it was a kage bunshin that went along with Team Hebi. someone check on the proper translation...i don't like Sleepy fans translations.

[Raizen]

No there's something special to it. It's not a unique technique that only a few people can do, it's just something dangerous that you can only do a few times in a row. Again, read past chapters.
Ur whole explanation about sauske being able to produce it twice is as I said basic chakra stuff. The reason for that is that his chakra was small during the chuunin exam and thus he can only use the A-rank attack twice. The dangerous part is if he force it he will kill himself. There is nothing special about sasuke in that regards. That basic chakra 101 applies to everyone!!

[Frostal]

What is madara planning?
He went to all that trouble to get sasuke and now he is endangering his life? Hopefully all of taka will be eliminated and sasuke will be forced to get his bros eyes


Ye, there are multiple reasons for why he would want to put Sasuke in a 'pinch' :tem

1.He has become unreliable and thus needs to be taken care of(but I am 100% certain Madara could take care of him on his own, unless as Itachi stated, he is only a shell of his former self and thus he might be weak(and his time-space jutsu(and bolts in his body) might have something to do with it)

2. He needs Sasuke to become a true criminal to make sure he can't go back to the good side.

3. He is trying to put Sasuke in such a position that he will unlock some new Sharingan secret.

4. Get him wounded enough to take Itachi's eyes.

Only Kishi knows but now I'm damn curious.


Oh and again, where is naruto sleeping? How close is it to the summit?
Seeing as Sai describes Naruto's feelings towards Sasuke as anger I wonder what will happen when they meet and all will depend on the circumstances.

Naruto will NOT stand for Sasuke's elimination if he encounters Sasuke in his confrontation with a couple of Kages.
But if they were to meet alone, I'm sure Naruto would woop his ass to the brink of death and bring him back to Konoha alive.

I'm very excited to see how this will unravel:p

[TeamSeven]

What is madara planning?
He went to all that trouble to get sasuke and now he is endangering his life? Hopefully all of taka will be eliminated and sasuke will be forced to get his bros eyes
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Maybe he wanted to further alienate Sasuke from his home country to isolate him, make him even more manipulatable. He could accomplish that, while at the same time using Sasuke as bait to cause confusion ... allowing him to take out one of the other Kages relatively unnoticed maybe?

At the very least he forces Sasuke into looking like an accomplice at that point.

If I wanted to, say, take out Raikage AND bind Sasuke more under my thumb, that's what I'd do.

Uchihas using the sharingan, with the crest on their back, are pretty identifiable ... maybe that's why Tobi decided on using Sasuke for the 8 tails ... he knew what Raikages reaction would be if a leaf ninja killed/captured his brother ... and he was setting this up all along.

[DarkManSharingan32]

Maybe he wanted to further alienate Sasuke from his home country to isolate him, make him even more manipulatable. He could accomplish that, while at the same time using Sasuke as bait to cause confusion ... allowing him to take out one of the other Kages relatively unnoticed maybe?

At the very least he forces Sasuke into looking like an accomplice at that point.

If I wanted to, say, take out Raikage AND bind Sasuke more under my thumb, that's what I'd do.

Uchihas using the sharingan, with the crest on their back, are pretty identifiable ... maybe that's why Tobi decided on using Sasuke for the 8 tails ... he knew what Raikages reaction would be if a leaf ninja killed/captured his brother ... and he was setting this up all along.

It's kind of hard to make Sasuke look like an accomplice... If everyone there pegged white Zetsu as Akatsuki, and then was subsequently given up. It makes it seem like they've [Akatsuki]turned on him...

[ameya730]

because why is Juugo a child? Why does Sasuke not care that Zetsu has gone? Why has he left his target, Danzou? Why would Madara, in his plan, tell White Zetsu to tell all the Kages that Sasuke was in the building if he wanted Sasuke to kill Danzou? He wouldn't. All these actions reek of Sasuke planning. He's planned something with White Zetsu.

well juugo is a child because he helped sasuke when he almost dying by giving him some skin (for lack of better description)

thats one thing that is yet to be confirmed whether white zetsu's actions are because madara told him or because sasuke told him

[Jadedmariner]

Yes, but if you assume they could eat the chidori, wouldn't you have to also assume the could fly in and eat a rasenshuriken?

I just don't see that happening. They would be sliced up before they even started absorbing.

I wasn't under the impression you had to be a dominant fighter necessarily to become a Jounin. They could be elite in other areas like information gathering, strategy, tracking, etc.

Plus, we haven't seen a ton of characters that have full field elemental jutsu. Normally there are gaps and openings, or they have directed attacks like Rakiri that the swarm could avoid.

No you don't have to make that assumption. Hungry Ghost realm had absolutely no limits to the speed or the amount of Chakra that he could consume. Giving the bugs those kinds of limitations are much more believable than preventing them from consuming any amount of elemental chakra.

Edit: Nearly every Jounin level ninja we have seen is capable of at the very least using an elemental clone. If the bugs cannot consume elemental chakra it you could win with a freaking water clone.

[Sean79]

well zetsu is child because he helped sasuke when he almost dying by giving him some skin (for lack of better description)

You mean Juugo right? :facepalm

[ameya730]

You mean Juugo right? :facepalm

my bad thanks fixed it :facepalm

[Jadedmariner]

well juugo is a child because he helped sasuke when he almost dying by giving him some skin (for lack of better description)

thats one thing that is yet to be confirmed whether white zetsu's actions are because madara told him or because sasuke told him

Yes Juugo has still not recovered from helping Sasuke, if he ever will recover that is.

I think the only thing we know is that Taka has no idea wtf is going on and that Sasuke at least expected something like this to happen. He isn't remotely panicking, which means he likely has a plan on how to deal with things.

[elitefox]

No you don't have to make that assumption. Hungry Ghost realm had absolutely no limits to the speed or the amount of Chakra that he could consume. Giving the bugs those kinds of limitations are much more believable than preventing them from consuming any amount of elemental chakra.

I think it will depend on the number of bugs:p
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Well don't you think everyone will be happy if he killed sly danzou XD

[roma]

Argh! This is getting really complicated but I just love it!

So that shinobi from the mist got a byakugan eye and Danzou's sharingan is now revealed to belong to Shisui. My, my... Danzou sure is treacherous. Now I'm having second thoughts... did Itachi really kill Shisui or not? Maybe Danzou did... or Danzou ordered Itachi and took the sharingan after (but then Itachi's way smarter than being controlled by the likes of Danzou).

I was quite baffled to see Ino crying but after a few pages it seemed she's crying about the order to kill Sasuke. Looks like she's still pinning for Sasuke, too, just like Naruto and Sakura.

I wonder if Naruto and company are near the kage summit and what they'll do next. I can't wait to get more info and/or possible battle next chapter! :)

[Jothesh2]

I got to say. I LOVE THIS CHAPTER!
Finally Sakura realized she's been the problem all this time.
Danzou got caught. I think he will run for it.
Well we finally know what eye of the moon plan is.

Madara is one evil bastard. That will do anything to get sasuke to get itachis eyes so he can steal them.
Kinda getting annoying in the part of stealing eyes though.

[Kaizoku-O Luffy]

Looks like nagato's words of 'to bring peace you have to face hatred and pain' coming true. Even his generation has given up on sasuke. Naruto's not the character to give up so easily when a person say so. He even challenged itachi that he will rescue sasuke from darkness. He will do what he believes in no matter what anyone says.

[TeamSeven]

It's kind of hard to make Sasuke look like an accomplice... If everyone there pegged white Zetsu as Akatsuki, and then was subsequently given up. It makes it seem like they've [Akatsuki]turned on him...

Nah, If everyone goes chasing Sasuke, and Danzou or Tobi takes out Raikage in the confusion .. they will all think they were lured and tricked if Sasuke escapes. They'll spin that he was acting as a diversion.

[llmcduff]

Hopefully the next few chapters Gara will fight and we will see what's his power is right now. Let there be a brawl. Doubt it, but I can hope.

[TeamSeven]

Looks like nagato's words of 'to bring peace you have to face hatred and pain' coming true. Even his generation has given up on sasuke. Naruto's not the character to give up so easily when a person say so. He even challenged itachi that he will rescue sasuke from darkness. He will do what he believes in no matter what anyone says.

Well said .. that is it exactly I think.

You know, thinking about it, Sasuke still hasn't done anything really that bad. He hasn't done a tenth of the bad things Gaara did. We don't have conclusive proof he's knowingly killed a single person.

So I'm a bit surprised everyone just assumes he is destined to be a villain.

[Jspot]

Well, Madara clearly wanted Sasuke's plan to fail. I just don't understand why he would need Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes. If EMS isn't truly Eternal, then what the heck is with the name?! I don't think Madara's doing this to steal eyes. And if he is, he must'a gotten screwed up badly enough by the 1st to lose his. And even then, how would he have controlled the Kyuubi? Ugh, so confusing!

I hope Naruto steals Itachi's eyes and squishes them to mush in front of Sasuke (though Sasuke won't be able to watch him do it because of bein freakin blind). Then this crap can be over.

Anyway, I think Zetsu will soon disappear. Taka will attempt to flee, but they, or at least Sasuke, will be confronted/detained.
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Well said .. that is it exactly I think.

You know, thinking about it, Sasuke still hasn't done anything really that bad. He hasn't done a tenth of the bad things Gaara did. We don't have conclusive proof he's knowingly killed a single person.

So I'm a bit surprised everyone just assumes he is destined to be a villain.

He turned over what he thought was a real person to Akatsuki, who they were going to then murder. In that situation, he didn't need to be the one to take the life. He put someone in a position to be killed, and honestly, that's even worse. Especially considering how Taka didn't even get anything out of it. It's like they did it for kicks.

[CalQdeX]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/458/14/
The flash back with Sakura walking away. What chapter is that from?

[llamapie]

THANK GOD IN HEAVEN FOR THIS CHAPTER.

For once you all can shove that Danzou = madara crap where it belongs.

Madara outside talking to aloe vera.

Danzou inside getting caught red handed.

[shade]

everything makes sense now......
so the "eye of moon plan" is to take from danzou's right eye "left eyeball" (yes! he probably get implant from shisui left eye ) left eye contains as itachi said Tsukuyomi - god of the moon - genjutsu techniques (that's way he can use controlling genjutsu from his "right eye" on mifune)

[Zibi234]

Sakura realizeing that she was the one that made naruto go throught hardships (that promise drove naruto into getting strogner and eventually he even reached KN4 on the bridge arc.)....but that "that idiot loves me.... I will talk to him" is annoying.... she plays dirty in my opinion she will use the adventage of his feelings for her in order to make naruto stop that promise..... isnt that called "manipulation" so sakura will join the Madara,Danzou manipulators squad >_< (useing ones feelings for her own personal gain)

But for me sorry sakura you realized this far too late.... naruto now is not only following that promise... but no one knows that he promised Itachi to save sasuke too... and he cant get back with his words since its his life idealogic.... he will listen to her talk but he wont accept it since its against his ideologic (everyone is drove by that idelogic of his.. "never to give up"... hinata,neji,jiraya or even nagato...)


I guess that naruto will want from everyone to give him a shot of trying to talk to sasuke once more.... so we could see "that itachi gift" !! if that fails he will give the permission to kill sasuke.... but here again he might want to be the one to do this... (naruto drove nagato the aka leader from revange... so now sasuke is consumed by it so naruto will have to save him too)

about "that mooneye plan" I guess its to focus everyones attention and sight on Sasuke.... so Madara could continue his own plan..... like use sasuke for distraction........ since the moon itself is an object that everyone can see if they look up to the sky on night.... so everyone in the world can see the same object...... (sasuke alone can create war by this)

Anyway why would zetsu appear on the meeting and tell that sasuke is near.... is to make everyone point sasuke on their croshairs so the hunt will begin.... (maybe that will lead sasuke to the "take itachis eyes" moment becouse he needs more power) while madara will continue his plans ^^

[Kool Kyoraku]

I think the majority of the next chapter will be primarily focused on crushing the hopes and dreams of many NaruXHina fans worldwide. Odds are if in fact Kishimoto does plan to commit most of the next chapter towards Sakura and Naruto then there will be a lot of romantic tension there. Seeing Sakura's state the past two chapters makes me believe she's going in for a kiss (=

[Jadedmariner]

Lol Somebody should make a sig that is Gaara and Nagato as Jehovah's Witnesses trying to convert Sasuke to the church of Naruto lol. Maybe through in an Amaterasu :p.
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I think the majority of the next chapter will be primarily focused on crushing the hopes and dreams of many NaruXHina fans worldwide. Odds are if in fact Kishimoto does plan to commit most of the next chapter towards Sakura and Naruto then there will be a lot of romantic tension there. Seeing Sakura's state the past two chapters makes me believe she's going in for a kiss (=

I don't think Sakura could get to Naruto in 1 chapter. I'm not even sure how her or Shikamaru plan on finding him since they shouldn't know the location of the summit and have nobody to follow there.

[Krik]

This is really good. Damn I'm excited! The young Konoha will once again get some real page time. Danzou will slip his way out of this new development somehow. I find it pretty strange that Madara gives the green light and Zetsu pops up right at the moment when Danzo is about to be exposed.

[Googlez_kun]

it was a new flashback

[katsumixsasuke]

oh my gosh did u see....sasuke is gonna kill danzo and the stupid******* danzo he took .....watever his name was itachi's best friend ....welll now im so freaked up yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy danzo is going down ....thank you sasuke

[Jothesh2]

This is really good. Damn I'm excited! The young Konoha will once again get some real page time. Danzou will slip his way out of this new development somehow. I find it pretty strange that Madara gives the green light and Zetsu pops up right at the moment when Danzo is about to be exposed.

Me too, it was about time. I want to see how much they have developed. I want to see how strong they are now!

[katsumixsasuke]

im sad also cuz no one except naruto is thinking about sasuke...they miss understand him ...i dont get naruto if u lay a finger on sasuke ill slay masashi kishimoto
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how do we vote for u
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I STARTED TO HATE SHIKAMARU LIKE HELL>:(

[samsiufan]

Me too, it was about time. I want to see how much they have developed. I want to see how strong they are now!

Back stabbers they all are...so much for saving Konoha! Pain absolutely ripped through them when Naruto was not there granted Neji and fuzzy eyebrows were away as well, what makes anyone think that they could even stop Sasuke nevermind Akatsuki...I think we have seen much of their development.....Zero!

....Poor Naruto is about to be betrayed after all he has done for Konoha...They can't even trust him...him who saved Konoha from Pain and by his conviction gave life back to all who Pain had killed!

As for Sakura...oh well...I had already said she was not the right person for Naruto...and if she does what she intends to do..it will further confirm it...How can you love someone that does not believe in you and whom you cannot trust?

This is going to be interesting anyway...I see a war coming lol...well hope. Also what if Naruto refuses to help the others stop Sasuke? Will he stand against them and become an exile? Will he join sides with sasuke?....this is shaping up nicely!

[Elite_user]

i wonder if danzou is really uchiha shisu or however u spell it, and he lost his left eye and got it transplanted with a regular eye. And he's been hiding ever since, or maybe ppl know.

[capri86]

Hmm... I don't like where this is going with konoha's next generation, naruto will definitely not accept what they're implying to do, I don't even think they can defeat sasuke as a team... maybe his cronies, but definitely not sasuke... he will fry each and every one of them because he doesn't give a fu*k!

As for sakura, I would like to see exactly what she's gonna tell naruto when she sees him... if she gets the chance, if chaos does happen in the next chapter, naruto will know and investigate. At the the end of the day sakura is just a lame duck... everybody says naruto might leave konoha and live in exile and so forth, but I think sakura should be the one leaving konoha... it's just embarrassing.

[TeamSeven]

I just re-read ... and what Sakura said could be taken more than one way.

It seemed kind of cold at first .. but you could also read it as she feels so bad about herself after what Sai said that she thinks Naruto would be a fool to love her.

Remember ... the single most annoying thing about Sakura is her lack of self-confidence and her self-pitying.



I thought they were going to get rid of that needy, ineffective Sakura when she became Tsunades pupil, especially after the fight against Sasori.

But shes been in full on reversion lately.

We are going to have to read about her as a main part of the storyline no matter what ... so PLEASE, PLEASE stop making her so pathetic and develop her character a bit Kishi.

And yeah, the 11 are back stabbers.

"hey, thanks for completely saving our asses! We've decided the only way to repay you is to kill your friend, and your dream for what you want to accomplish. I know we only show faith in you when its convient, and we don't actually have any idea what is going on with Sasuke .. but some old guy wrapped like a mummy thinks he needs to die .. so that's good enough for us!"

[elitefox]

Well, Madara clearly wanted Sasuke's plan to fail. I just don't understand why he would need Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes. If EMS isn't truly Eternal, then what the heck is with the name?! I don't think Madara's doing this to steal eyes. And if he is, he must'a gotten screwed up badly enough by the 1st to lose his. And even then, how would he have controlled the Kyuubi? Ugh, so confusing!


That was just my crazy idea, madara as i see is very power hungry and wanted more power so he might want to try out ems + ems see if anything happens :facepalm

[Rain0r]

Im telling u all, Madara is 2 people ;D

he could be both danzou and someone else, but not sure yet ;D

[Jadedmariner]

I just re-read ... and what Sakura said could be taken more than one way.

It seemed kind of cold at first .. but you could also read it as she feels so bad about herself after what Sai said that she thinks Naruto would be a fool to love her.

Remember ... the single most annoying thing about Sakura is her lack of self-confidence and her self-pitying.


I think it's more that is how she always refers to and treats Naruto. I mean the very first thing she did after Naruto defeated Pain was to scold him and hit him over the head.

[Gats]

Backstabber ? If it was the case Shikamaru would not try to "ask permission" to team 7 and trying to explain what's going on, he/they doesn't know that Naruto were outside the village.

This is not because Naruto is a the village hero that they must have a blind faith in him, to bet everything, everytime to one person is stupid and weakens the power/spirit of the village.

[Emmanra]

Um.. Im confused was Sasuke just Setup?

[miles2go]

So,
what is Madara's plan? He seems to be using Sasuke as a distraction but to what purpose? I'm guessing to take out Danzo, (removing a competitor?)

[benelori]

Back stabbers they all are...so much for saving Konoha! Pain absolutely ripped through them when Naruto was not there granted Neji and fuzzy eyebrows were away as well, what makes anyone think that they could even stop Sasuke nevermind Akatsuki...I think we have seen much of their development.....Zero!

....Poor Naruto is about to be betrayed after all he has done for Konoha...They can't even trust him...him who saved Konoha from Pain and by his conviction gave life back to all who Pain had killed!

As for Sakura...oh well...I had already said she was not the right person for Naruto...and if she does what she intends to do..it will further confirm it...How can you love someone that does not believe in you and whom you cannot trust?

This is going to be interesting anyway...I see a war coming lol...well hope. Also what if Naruto refuses to help the others stop Sasuke? Will he stand against them and become an exile? Will he join sides with sasuke?....this is shaping up nicely!

I think at first he will reject shikamaru's offer and the talk with sakura will be a dramatic one. After that he'll say that he'll check for himself. In the chapter we saw that naruto is considering sasuke to be a COMMON criminal.
When this is confirmed sasuke gonna get his assed kicked
[hr]

i wonder if danzou is really uchiha shisu or however u spell it, and he lost his left eye and got it transplanted with a regular eye. And he's been hiding ever since, or maybe ppl know.

Uchiha Shisui is dead it was confirmed by itachi
[hr]



"hey, thanks for completely saving our asses! We've decided the only way to repay you is to kill your friend, and your dream for what you want to accomplish. I know we only show faith in you when its convient, and we don't actually have any idea what is going on with Sasuke .. but some old guy wrapped like a mummy thinks he needs to die .. so that's good enough for us!"

It's not really like that U know... this decision was made by them in order to not risk an open war, and it seems a reason good enough for me. Shikamaru said to stop him and even if sasuke is really hard to capture, that doesn't mean necessarily that he must be killed

[matsemann08]

Danzo is in possession of Shisui Uchiha's Sharingan in his right eye, which he keeps hidden under the bandages. It is apparently damaged, as the sclera is not white, most likely due to the fact that it was taken from a corpse instead of a live body.

[CalQdeX]

Its from a previous chapter where Sai asked about Sakura, I just cant find it.

[Shaunlim]

Backstabber ? If it was the case Shikamaru would not try to "ask permission" to team 7 and trying to explain what's going on, he/they doesn't know that Naruto were outside the village.

This is not because Naruto is a the village hero that they must have a blind faith in him, to bet everything, everytime to one person is stupid and weakens the power/spirit of the village.

The 11 are in no way backstabbers. They are doing what they think is right. In a way, it's just another form of Naruto's peace. It's just that through Naruto, Sasuke should stay alive to prevent the war while the 11's would be to kill Sasuke themselves and be done with it.

[benelori]

The 11 are in no way backstabbers. They are doing what they think is right. In a way, it's just another form of Naruto's peace. It's just that through Naruto, Sasuke should stay alive to prevent the war while the 11's would be to kill Sasuke themselves and be done with it.

Off course naruto will decide it, that's why shikamaru is asking for permission. I don't really know what he'll say or do because this is an awesome turn point in the manga with so many possibilities to continue

[Shaunlim]

Off course naruto will decide it, that's why shikamaru is asking for permission. I don't really know what he'll say or do because this is an awesome turn point in the manga with so many possibilities to continue

Well, I'm pretty sure Naruto won't allow Sasuke to be killed. At this point, it is whether Shikamaru convincing Naruto first or the other way around. I personally see Naruto winning in the convincing but I still fail to see how Sasuke is going to be saved. He needs some serious redemption if he is to be saved at this point.

[DutchPhoenix]

question is, they cant kill sasuke withoud the help of naruto

[Shaunlim]

question is, they cant kill sasuke withoud the help of naruto

yse they can...this isn't DBZ where if you're SSJ2, no one weaker than you wouldn't be able to kill you. Nor is it Bleach where if you're weaker, you wouldn't be able to cut through your opponent.

It's just a matter of how they do it. And their chance improves by forming a team.

[Krik]

Shikamaru and co. are doing what people complained that Naruto should do. I don't believe they simply want to kill Sasuke but are willing to make the choice in order to prevent more chaos.

[benelori]

yse they can...this isn't DBZ where if you're SSJ2, no one weaker than you wouldn't be able to kill you. Nor is it Bleach where if you're weaker, you wouldn't be able to cut through your opponent.

It's just a matter of how they do it. And their chance improves by forming a team.

If sasuke is gonna be hunted, then the whole kon 11 will go, becuz sasuke is dangerous in the first place, but he has teammates, people he became really fond of, considering they reminded him good ol' team 7

[Kusachu]

I think Gaara may end up helping Sasuke for the sake of Naruto since he knows how much Sasuke means to him, or we will at least see some kind of exchange between them which will give us some insight into what is coming.

[benelori]

Well, I'm pretty sure Naruto won't allow Sasuke to be killed. At this point, it is whether Shikamaru convincing Naruto first or the other way around. I personally see Naruto winning in the convincing but I still fail to see how Sasuke is going to be saved. He needs some serious redemption if he is to be saved at this point.

I agree, but naruto has to check for himself if sasuke's gone that wild. But there's still akatsuki, danzou to consider in this, especially now that zetsu made his grand entry

[sarutobi_sensei]

Just read the chapter and I have to say one thing. Sasuke heard what Naruto was thinking. Srsl he has. It wasn't because of Zetsu missing, it was that he heard him x)

Zetsu's reaction was amazing: Helooooooo xD

Finally they're all going to fight, i'm gonna love next chapter x)

[benelori]

Just read the chapter and I have to say one thing. Sasuke heard what Naruto was thinking. Srsl he has. It wasn't because of Zetsu missing, it was that he heard him x)

Zetsu's reaction was amazing: Helooooooo xD

Finally they're all going to fight, i'm gonna love next chapter x)

Fighting more like after 2 chapters at least, it is talking time...

[Googlez_kun]

ah sorry
here it is
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/457/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/457/12/

[elitefox]

hell yeah, HELLOOOOO! missing me :D

[shinobi]

Just read the chapter and I have to say one thing. Sasuke heard what Naruto was thinking. Srsl he has. It wasn't because of Zetsu missing, it was that he heard him x)

Zetsu's reaction was amazing: Helooooooo xD

Finally they're all going to fight, i'm gonna love next chapter x)

yeah I think sasuke heard or felt naruto's thoughts or something like that, he wont be putting his hand on his head for missing zetsu....

zetsu's grand entrance is great!! and now that they know sasuke's there, there's no point for hawk to hide anymore...

[Jspot]

I'm disappointed.

I really, really, REALLY wish that the entire Rookie 9 group would confront Naruto at once. I would really love to see them all there... and for them to watch Naruto turn his back on them for the first time.

With Sakura there, I don't know what he'll do, aside from not giving up on Sasuke. I kind of want to say that Sakura and Naruto will leave together to try and deal with Sasuke in their own way before the others/Kumo can, but I don't think Sakura is going to be okay with that now.

[Phoenix946]

Ohhh, Byakugan! That was a pleasant surprise, I wonder if he also uses the Hyuuga's Junken style? The 360 view is pretty nice for anyone but Junken really use that eye to the max.

And it seems Konoha's remaining 10 and Sai are going to take action, that should be good. Though I doubt they'll actually get action, this could become really interesting if Naruto gets confronted with that. Though Shikamaru didn't say the word "kill" (in Sleepyfans' translation at least) so it might turn out less interesting with Naruto saying he knows that Sasuke needs to be dealt with and that he already was planning on doing that. He did say he wanted a proper battle with him. Then again if Sasuke doesn't get what he wants, the only way to deal with him is kill him.

Is it me or is Shikamaru annoyed with Sakura? I can't blame him :D

And lawlord made a nice comment earlier, the Zetsu appearing in the meeting was the white half and probably got genjutsu'd into doing so by Sasuke, and Madara told the black half to begin, so those actions are not connected. Which means two plans are being initiated at the same time here. Sasuke is as arrogant as ever, thinking he can just give himself a handicap like this (for whatever reason). Next chapter should be very interesting! Too bad we have to wait two weeks for it :scry

[demons_halo]

we all know what's gonna heppen between sakura and naruto..
sakura will go there and start *cry cry* naruto will comfort her and see the pain in her eyes, and then he'll be more determined and say that he will never back on his words no matter what. So sakura will ask him to take her with him, so sai , sakura, naruto, kakashi & yamato will head out to meet sauske!!

edit: madaras eye reminds me of the sage of the 6 paths

[eternalshiva]

At this point, I'm glad Sakura seems to be making efforts to better hersefl. Hopefully she'll stop being the reason why Naruto fails so much and be useful. A true team mate that does more than just stand around asking for help.

She needs to help herself before she can ask anyone else. Damsel in distress is over and done with hopefully. Naruto's her enabler by allowing her to push him around. Hopefully she'll start taking back control of herself and the situation she's allowed Naruto to let himself get into.

Shika's really struggling with his decision. He's trying to justify it by saying it's to avoid war but looking at his facial reactions, he knows he's betraying his promises to Naruto.

As much as I agree with the logic, I'm still with Naruto's illogical thinking. It's predictable that Konoha would turn against Sasuke after hearing he joined Akatsuki, considering what they've done to Jiraiya, the village and attempted to take Naruto and yes, I did expect the kon 11 to take Konoha's side. Naruto has a lot of serious non-emo thinking to do.

I wonder if Sakura is going to side with the Konoha 11 and betray him too? (Yes I say betray because they've all promised him to bring Sasuke back, to help him, to walk by him in his quest only to back out once the pressure is on.)

Oh and LMFAO at Kiba, way to tell the girls to stfu on crying, no wonder Hinata never cries with team mates like that! Team 8 just got raised a peg for me again!

[Shing02]

Just read the chapter and I have to say one thing. Sasuke heard what Naruto was thinking. Srsl he has. It wasn't because of Zetsu missing, it was that he heard him x)

Zetsu's reaction was amazing: Helooooooo xD

Finally they're all going to fight, i'm gonna love next chapter x)

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
yeah but the phrase "where'd he go?" is directed to zetsu no?

this page confuses me a lot

[Gats]

A bigger shot of Byakugan by Ao and Sasuke will be found in no time, he is not far away.

[Sanadan]

Damn this is annoying. Why does Naruto like Sakura and not Hinata? Sakura has always been a demanding crying ass towards Naruto while Hinata has been nothing but helpfull, self sacrificing and nice. All these "love" scenarios among the youngsters is such crap. They just pick some one and say "well, im in love with this guy/girl". The only one who actually provided a reason why has been Hinata.

Anyho, m prediction is that in the next chapter Danzou is going to try to kill of those who he sees as potential treaths. The byakugan guy for example to cover up his theft of the sharingan. Hes not goign to let go of that "secret" easily

[Gats]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
yeah but the phrase "where'd he go?" is directed to zetsu no?

this page confuses me a lot

Of course it's about Zetsu, it's logical, I don't know how you can think it's about Naruto. ><
[hr]

Damn this is annoying. Why does Naruto like Sakura and not Hinata? Sakura has always been a demanding crying ass towards Naruto while Hinata has been nothing but helpfull, self sacrificing and nice. All these "love" scenarios among the youngsters is such crap. They just pick some one and say "well, im in love with this guy/girl". The only one who actually provided a reason why has been Hinata.

Anyho, m prediction is that in the next chapter Danzou is going to try to kill of those who he sees as potential treaths. The byakugan guy for example to cover up his theft of the sharingan. Hes not goign to let go of that "secret" easily

When you're in love (big love) it's hard for you to see the bad side of the girl you want and you're willing to forgive. It's common...

[chess4]

so things are about to get hot. if the kages and their escorts catch up with team hawk, they are done for. i wonder what they will do to danzo

[demons_halo]

so things are about to get hot. if the kages and their escorts catch up with team hawk, they are done for. i wonder what they will do to danzo

maybe the white zetsu was sent by sauske to deliver a message to the kages! I doubt the fact that sauske got tricked this easy :/

[Gats]

maybe the white zetsu was sent by sauske to deliver a message to the kages! I doubt the fact that sauske got tricked this easy :/

Of course he was tricked. When you see his reaction about Zetsu and Madara giving him order to begin it's obvious that Sasuke has nothing to do with this. :facepalm

[PitchBlack857]

Like most of us thought this whole situations is a big set up for Sasuke to fail. Madara wants him to realize his current power level ain't shit thus making him take Itachi's eye's. Funny how quick Zetsu snitched on Sasuke being in the vicinity, Madara defintly playing dude.

Good to see the Konoah kids being rational, should be interesting how this whole "Kill Sasuke" arc plays out.

[chess4]

i dont think any of the konoha 11 can take on sasuke with the exception of naruto. neji and shikamaru would hols there own but i think would be killed eventually in a straight up fight. hopefully killerbe reveals himself soon so all of this foolishness can be avoided

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

So Ao was able to see through the genjutsu on the 4th using the byakugan, so can all Byakugan users see through genjutsu?

[gigantor21]

Hmm...this chapter was...yeah. :p

Danzo, I can understand. He's a shady boss who lives in Konoha, who dealt with Orochimaru--another fan of the Sharingan. His having one is plausible, at least.

But then what? Ao just happens to find a Head Branch Hyuuga, and implants his eye? He just happens to be a past opponent of Shisui? Couldn't Kishi come up with something less contrived? -_-

On another note, I'm glad Sasuke's selfishness won't be coddled anymore. I also loved how Zetsu popped out of the ground--like a stripper in a cake. XD

This all feels ad-hoc, messy...I'm still iffy on the direction Kishi's taking.

[demons_halo]

Of course he was tricked. When you see his reaction about Zetsu and Madara giving him order to begin it's obvious that Sasuke has nothing to do with this. :facepalm
madara was talking to the black zetsu, but I may be wrong =P

i dont think any of the konoha 11 can take on sasuke with the exception of naruto. neji and shikamaru would hols there own but i think would be killed eventually in a straight up fight. hopefully killerbe reveals himself soon so all of this foolishness can be avoided
neji would have a chance until sauske goes MS or Kirin, shikamaru would get killed no question about it!

So Ao was able to see through the genjutsu on the 4th using the byakugan, so can all Byakugan users see through genjutsu?
yes, sharingan can see through genjutsu as well, the flow of the chakra get's irregular when you're under genjutsu!

[Phoenix946]

There are two possibilities with the white Zetsu popping in there.

1) There's a connection between the two halfs of Zetsu so that they always know what happens to the other. The white half heard Madara say "begin" to the black half and initiated Madara's plan with backstabbing Sasuke, and Sasuke expected that to happen, hence the "heh". This kind of goes against the order of the panels though imo, since we first see the white half disappear and then we see Madara say "begin".

2) Sasuke planned on having the white Zetsu barge in on the meeting by genjutsu'ing him. This succeeded and Sasuke says "heh" to Karin's and Suigestu's surprise. At the same time, Madara tells the black half to start his plan too, which we have no idea what it is.

Both sound plausible to me, but like I said the first goes against the orders of the panels (just a bit, so it might be nothing) so I'm going for the second.

[Thabor]

Of course he was tricked. When you see his reaction about Zetsu and Madara giving him order to begin it's obvious that Sasuke has nothing to do with this. :facepalm

:blink You do know he was the one laughing, with his hand raised over one eye to accentuate the fact that he just used the Sharingan, which was shown in the previous panel right?

That is almost as bad as the guy who asked where Madara was, when you can clearly see part of Three Wolves mountain in the background..

[Gats]

madara was talking to the black zetsu, but I may be wrong =P


Well certainly but Sasuke's team doesn't know what's going on with him so it can't be a message from him. (or low chance)
[hr]

:blink You do know he was the one laughing, with his hand raised over one eye to accentuate the fact that he just used the Sharingan, which was shown in the previous panel right?

That is almost as bad as the guy who asked where Madara was, when you can clearly see part of Three Wolves mountain in the background..

It can be but Sasuke makes an exclamation point when Karin wonders where Zetsu is.

edit : but his "heh" means maybe that he has expected something like this.

[g1534]

Well certainly but Sasuke's team doesn't know what's going on with him so it can't be a message from him. (or low chance)
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It can be but Sasuke makes an exclamation point when Suigetsu wonders where Zetsu is.

edit : but his "heh" means maybe that he has expected something like this.

He indeed DID expect something like this... Remember his "besides, if he betrays us I'll use amatarasu on him... (There's something I've been wanting to test/try anyway)"

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/17/

Maybe he was wanting to test out if Madara was going to try to betray him... who knows

[Brill]

Of course it's about Zetsu, it's logical, I don't know how you can think it's about Naruto. ><
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When you're in love (big love) it's hard for you to see the bad side of the girl you want and you're willing to forgive. It's common...

Especially when she doesn't love you back. Very interesting development. I wonder how she's going to break it to him. Itachi was quite the fortune-teller when he asked Naruto if he could seriously stop Sasuke when people like Sakura might turn against him.

This could get very entertaining.

[Mythsoul]

hmmmmm how will Sasugay get outta that pinch..hmmmm.....he got sold out by Zetzu and Madara.....and placed infront of five of the most powerfull shinobis ..and a bunch of Samurais....ha.....this could get interesting

[Thabor]

It can be but Sasuke makes an exclamation point when Suigetsu wonders where Zetsu is.

edit : but his "heh" means maybe that he has expected something like this.

Yeah, I'm not sure how to take Sasuke's !.. It could be from Zetsu being gone, or it could be that he didn't expect what he tried to work. Or maybe he's just miffed since Karin was supposed to be keeping close tabs on him.

[Weapon_X]

For some reason, I think everything is part of the plan. I don't think Sasuke is being sold out here because why are him and Taka outside the meeting? Why did they go outisde for, aren't they supposed to stay inside and listen to the meeting? They went outside so they can ambush Danzou when he comes out, hence why Zetsu went in thinking that the Kages should react.

[g1534]

What the hell?!

Why is Jugo back to being a little kid?!

Didn't he grow back to his normal size/stature?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/

WTF?

[Deepak5191]

So Ao was able to see through the genjutsu on the 4th using the byakugan, so can all Byakugan users see through genjutsu?

Its probably not that they can see through it but rather that they have been placed under one. They could probably see the weird chakra flow or even the foreign chakra and realize that they are under Genjutsu. Once he knows that then its easy enough to get them out of it.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Fighting more like after 2 chapters at least, it is talking time...

Meh could be.


http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/459/12/
yeah but the phrase "where'd he go?" is directed to zetsu no?

this page confuses me a lot

I still stand that he heard what Naruto was thinking. Though it could be Kishi playing with words and images with us again x)

And my prediction's coming true, I told ya x) Sakura's going to Naruto and tell him to move on to Hinata, that she's the one who's always loved him and stuff like that, and that it's time to stop Sasuke for good. Even if it means killing him.

I'm loving this x)

[g1534]

Meh could be.



I still stand that he heard what Naruto was thinking. Though it could be Kishi playing with words and images with us again x)

And my prediction's coming true, I told ya x) Sakura's going to Naruto and tell him to move on to Hinata, that she's the one who's always loved him and stuff like that, and that it's time to stop Sasuke for good. Even if it means killing him.

I'm loving this x)

This is a test of naruto's Nindo. Sakura is finally giving up on sasuke, that will lift a HUGE burden for Naruto, but he won't go back on his word and he won't give up on sasuke... This will only make him more determined. Naruto's confrontation of Sasuke will be EPIC.

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Ah yh its not a big thing or anything new, of course the byakugan could see the disturbed chakra flow silly me :facepalm.

[Gats]

I still stand that he heard what Naruto was thinking. Though it could be Kishi playing with words and images with us again x)



No way, it's not Sasuke who's saying "where he'd go", it's Karin, look more carefully please. So you can erase telepathy Naruto theory.

[Hitsug@ya ta1ch0u]

:DOk this chapter confirms no Danzou=Madara

[Trafalgar SoD]

call me crazy i don't care but by the end of this manga naruto will have either the byakugan or sharingan hell maybe both. think about all this talk about transplants of eyes and everything its foreshadowing. If he gets the byakugan it will be hinata that gives it to him pun intended. if he gets sharingan we all know who is going to give him that.

[PitchBlack857]

hmmmmm how will Sasugay get outta that pinch..hmmmm.....he got sold out by Zetzu and Madara.....and placed infront of five of the most powerfull shinobis ..and a bunch of Samurais....ha.....this could get interesting


Yea this is most def a setup by Madara, Sasuke is gonna have to retreat. But i think dude is about to pull off legendary shit also. Whatever happens Sasuke about to become public enemy # 1 in the ninja world. Sasuke's rep is about to go up a notch once again so will Naruto's, I bet he does something sick during this arc.

Madara and the 1st Hokage were the most famous ninja in their time. No doubt Naruto and Sasuke will end as the 2 most Famous ninja in this generation.

[Mythsoul]

:DOk this chapter confirms no Danzou=Madara

hmmmmmm no.....Madara is somewhere in the Iron country....and Danzou is at the kage meeting....there are two different people.......Madara can only teleport .....he cannot be at two places at once.....and Danzou is not a KB.......the Mizukage bodyguard is looking at his chakra flow.......Madara is Madara....and Danzou is a power hungry old bastard....well both of them have that in commun...lol

[PitchBlack857]

call me crazy i don't care but by the end of this manga naruto will have either the byakugan or sharingan hell maybe both. think about all this talk about transplants of eyes and everything its foreshadowing. If he gets the byakugan it will be hinata that gives it to him pun intended. if he gets sharingan we all know who is going to give him that.

Naw B, your best bet to see that would be Naruto and Hinata's children. Kyubii powered byakugan would be that shit tho.

[benelori]

hmmmmm how will Sasugay get outta that pinch..hmmmm.....he got sold out by Zetzu and Madara.....and placed infront of five of the most powerfull shinobis ..and a bunch of Samurais....ha.....this could get interesting

After reread it occured to me that something like this was expected by sasuke, he has his own agenda and his not stupid to trust madara, who used his brother

[demons_halo]

Madara and the 1st Hokage were the most famous ninja in their time. No doubt Naruto and Sasuke will end as the 2 most Famous ninja in this generation.

which leads me to the conclusion that naruto is a senju. The rivalry between the 2 clans continue!

[Andonan]

It's funny really A LOT of people have predicted for a long time that naruto would be ostracized and become a Hermit like Jiraiya and when Pain came along that was when we thought that prediction would come true. Instead we got a complete opposite, he became the love of the village the peoples choice for Hokage (even over kakashi) but now it looks like we were going to have been right but for a much more predictable reason. My guess is he's going to fight the Genin 11 or at least Sakura and Shikamaru. My guess is when Sakura goes to confront naruto she'll say something like "Give up on him he's coursed us too much pain, naruto please stop" in which he'll refuse and say he'll never give up (typical Naruto speech) then Shikamaru will step in. Having obviously followed Sakuraknowing she wouldn't get through to him (being Shikamaru and all) and they'll be heated words and naruto will (IMO) then make quick work of both. Probably stating that he can't believe that they've given up on him and Sasuke and turn his back on the village.

Now obviously all that talk about not understanding Sasuke is (IMO) just a vain attempt by kishi to build tension i think it would be silly if naruto gives up on Sasuke (I would prefer it because I hate Sasuke) but it would make no sense in terms of where this entire Shippuuden has been heading. Especially, as many have already said, after the entire discussion with Pain and then naruto's own comments about now understanding Sasuke's revenge.

The question is what would happen then. I would love to see Sasuke turn his back on Akatsuki and Naruto turn his back on Konoha and both of them to find each other but this time with no expectations from either sides support base just simply state that they need to settle things like men not boys.

[sarutobi_sensei]

This is a test of naruto's Nindo. Sakura is finally giving up on sasuke, that will lift a HUGE burden for Naruto, but he won't go back on his word and he won't give up on sasuke... This will only make him more determined. Naruto's confrontation of Sasuke will be EPIC.

I know he won't go back on his word to bring Sasuke back, it's Nindo and all that he's been fighting for.

Oh that it will be x)

I wanna see Naruto punch him so badly x)