Naruto Volume 49 (Ch. 545-463) Discussion

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[adel123456789]

does naruto even know that sasuke has a death sentens on his head sence he killed that cloud traker ninja. naruto sould be like scrow sasuke im not gonna die.

[sarutobi_sensei]

WOW so Danzou's eye and hand doesn't work? What the hell happened to him???
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Oh and there's a description of the other kages ^^

[adel123456789]

WOW so Danzou's eye and hand doesn't work? What the hell happened to him???

posebly, nagato did somthing, or the third maybe.
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Oh and there's a description of the other kages ^^

according to someone at narutofan, the mizukage is a a big boob blong women like tsunade, though i thought it would be konan to be honest

[Gats]

posebly, nagato did somthing, or the third maybe.


His eye was already off when he met Nagato.

[shailks]

The spoilers says that danzou wants to cure his eyes to work again. Does it mean he has some dojutsu ability or that he just wants to cure his eye to be able to see again. I guess its the former one and it would be very intriguing if its sharingan.

[adel123456789]

His eye was already off when he met Nagato.

so, it could be the third or a bttle he had when he was younger.

[shailks]

WOW so Danzou's eye and hand doesn't work? What the hell happened to him???
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Oh and there's a description of the other kages ^^

Oh didn't nagato fuc*** him up back in the rain village?

[chess4]

sarutobi probably did it......i would guess he and sarutobi fought it out for the title of the 3rd

[LoS]

The only thing that sounds interesting is learning of the unknown Kage's, all the other stuff is pretty damn dumb.

[adel123456789]

The spoilers says that danzou wants to cure his eyes to work again. Does it mean he has some dojutsu ability or that he just wants to cure his eye to be able to see again. I guess its the former one and it would be very intriguing if its sharingan.

why the sharingun would work in one eye. i gues he just wants to see agen. it is a good motevation if you ask me.

[HPTR Fangirl]

Naruto offering himself as the punching bag so that Team Cloud can vent their anger. :)

[KiSwordsman]

according to someone at narutofan, the mizukage is a a big boob blong women like tsunade, though i thought it would be konan to be honest

Konan's from Rain not Mist

[Castanaver]

I agree with Chess4. I think Sarutobi did it. Kind of like what he did to Orochimaru's arms before Sarutobi died. i wouldn't be surprised!

[adel123456789]

The only thing that sounds interesting is learning of the unknown Kage's, all the other stuff is pretty damn dumb.

i agree, naruto offering himself in place of sasuke isnt surprizing, and he is dumb as hell if thinks the cloud would accept. and danzou wants to be heald and he wants kabuto alive just for that. nothing interesting exept the kages.

[Zibi234]

so the question is how the hell do they want to make danzou a hokage if he is not able to form any jutsus since his arm is not working >______< this is just plain stupid.... maybe tsunade was not so strong with many jutsus... but she was a kick ass healer....

Naruto I think asked Clouds not to kill sasuke and he will let himself act like a punch bag till they satysfied... or something like that (anyway he has kyuubi so he will heal fast....)

Rest is bleh... who cares about roots.... anyway if Daznou will let Kabuto go off easly than I hope people would learn about it..... he didnt killed or gived order to kill kabuto even if he has money on his head.... since he was one that followed orohimaru.... a criminal.... so kill sasuke a criminal... but let kabuto go easyly even if he is criminal too.... hope people will learn about it and will vote for NO on the jounin votes

[sarutobi_sensei]

posebly, nagato did somthing, or the third maybe.



according to someone at narutofan, the mizukage is a a big boob blong women like tsunade, though i thought it would be konan to be honest

Nah his eye was already like that in Nagato's flashback.

:D More big boobs ^^


The spoilers says that danzou wants to cure his eyes to work again. Does it mean he has some dojutsu ability or that he just wants to cure his eye to be able to see again. I guess its the former one and it would be very intriguing if its sharingan.
Yeah, so maybe he has some kind of doujutsu one that we don't know, or maybe he wants to be on his full form.

Maybe he even knows what's coming in the near future.

[pops]

this whole thing with danzo getting his arm and eye repaired seem strange. why would danzo wait until he became hokage to repair his arm and eye? if they were things that could be fixed why not have them done a while ago?

[adel123456789]

Konan's from Rain not Mist

stell, i thought she would be the kage of the rain.

[HPTR Fangirl]

The spoilers says that danzou wants to cure his eyes to work again. Does it mean he has some dojutsu ability or that he just wants to cure his eye to be able to see again. I guess its the former one and it would be very intriguing if its sharingan.

I doubt that Danzou has any dojutsu ability, but still I'd like to have some more information about the guy before I go ahead and dismiss the idea that he doesn't have any dojutsu ability. But curing his eyes to see again is also a great motivator like adel123456789 said.

[Jotaro Kujo]

Wow interesting chapter!
Finally we have information on all 5 kages and given what Danzou says it seems that has a doujutsu or a particular eye skills. Maybe:amuse
EDIT: it seems that Mizukake is accompanied by one the seven sworship! Great chapter!

[Gats]

The only thing that sounds interesting is learning of the unknown Kage's, all the other stuff is pretty damn dumb.

We can find something interesting with Anko and an another light about the relationship between Oro and Danzou.

[TheOneElectric]

Offing Anko? What the hell?

Is it because she trained under Orochimaru or is Danzou thinking of killing all of the Jonin and replacing them with Root. Danzou, what are you planning?

[shailks]

stell, i thought she would be the kage of the rain.

Rain village is a minor village i guess. It doesn't have a kage.
Only five villages have it.

[adel123456789]

Wow interesting chapter!
Finally we have information on all 5 kages and given what Danzou says it seems that has a doujutsu or a particular eye skills. Maybe:amuse

no, danzou just say that he wants to heal his eye's arms agen.

[laughing@you]

Holy crap danzou is a bad mother-trucker!!!

He wants to off Anko?!?!?

Which could mean he probably has a hit list. At least the jounin vote hasn't passed yet!! phew!!!

Also this could mean how oro managed to infiltrate so many of his followers during the attack to konoha when the 3rd died. Danzou helped him!!! Now that makes sense!!!

[Destined_One]

Holy crap danzou is a bad mother-trucker!!!

He wants to off Anko?!?!?

Which could mean he probably has a hit list. At least the jounin vote hasn't passed yet!! phew!!!

Maybe he wan't to off the jonin who are in favor of Sarutobi's teachings (to win the vote?).. though good luck with Kakashi old man.. especially if Naruto is around.. also another swordsman, woot hopefully these kages are more than just fodder..

[shailks]

no, danzou just say that he wants to heal his eye's arms agen.

May be it is. But it is funny that when oro got his hands sealed by third he went to tsunade to cure it. Now when danzou has to cure his eye and hand he is searching for kabuto. Is it only because it doesn't trust tsunade with his life, or may be because the wounds carry some story of their own?

[Jotaro Kujo]

no, danzou just say that he wants to heal his eye's arms agen.

Yeah. I'm daydreaming a bit too XD.
But i would like to know what happened

[chess4]

I agree with Chess4. I think Sarutobi did it. Kind of like what he did to Orochimaru's arms before Sarutobi died. i wouldn't be surprised!

i think back then things arent as formal as the are now when it comes to appointing the hokage. danzou probably thought why not me. he probably damamged his eye, but the arm i dont know.

[adel123456789]

May be it is. But it is funny that when oro got his hands sealed by third he went to tsunade to cure it. Now when danzou has to cure his eye and hand he is searching for kabuto. Is it only because it doesn't trust tsunade with his life, or may be because the wounds carry some story of their own?

i stell dont know why orochimaru thought that his hands would get healed. i mean he his arms soul (that name is stuped but you know what i mean)

[chess4]

We can find something interesting with Anko and an another light about the relationship between Oro and Danzou.

so i guess any ninja in the leaf villge is a target

[laughing@you]

Somebody looks like tsunade? :err....

mmmmm....lunch...:jk

[Proxy]

That 'tard better do nothing to Anko.

As for that Mizukage translation, bring on the pics!!!!!!!!!!! lol

I like the Danzou is Madara theory, but Danzou is probably just boring old Danzou. Sigh.

[Castanaver]

can someone post a pic of Anko pls? i can't seem to place a face with that name. >.>

[caramel_cod]

I'm wondering if we'll finally get to see Madara's face in this meeting (since he's the Mizukage, after all).

Also, since I don't think Sasuke knows that Madara is a kage... does that mean he might accidentally attack him? Regardless, Mizukage is the one to watch in this meeting.

[sindergi]

I'm wondering if we'll finally get to see Madara's face in this meeting (since he's the Mizukage, after all).

Also, since I don't think Sasuke knows that Madara is a kage... does that mean he might accidentally attack him? Regardless, Mizukage is the one to watch in this meeting.

former Mizukage - former Mizukage :oh

[Mifec]

can someone post a pic of Anko pls? i can't seem to place a face with that name. >.>

http://anime.tedfox.com/wp-content/uploads/mitarashi-anko2.jpg


Here u go good sir.


back to topic


For me its clear danzou is not madara

[zerocooldx]

A Tsunade and Anko look alike? :darn Looks like Kishi is running out of character designs.

[-Ren Boy-]

i told you one of the kages would be old lol

[shailks]

so i guess any ninja in the leaf villge is a target

For now i think its only anko. Remember during pein arc yamato, sai and she were following kabuto. Yamato returned then only and sai sometime after the battle. Maybe anko is still following some lead and has retrieved some info on kabuto or whereabouts which danzou wants to keep only to himself.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Yes this just proves it, Danzou isn't Madara. Why would they want to go after Anko :\

[shailks]

A Tsunade and Anko look alike? :darn Looks like Kishi is running out of character designs.

Maybe one has large boobs and another has a pony. I mean a lot of ppl comapre samui with tsunade. It doesn't mean they look alike. We should wait for the pics to reach to some conclusion.

[adel123456789]

danzou wants to kill anyone who wont vot for him like anko. his new campaign slogen is Vote Or Die, just like in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg72HC94RMQ&feature=related

[Darth Executor]

I haven't been this excited about a chapter for quite some time. I wanna see if the shinobi swordsman with the mizukage has one of the swords featured here:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

[Mythsoul]

hehe..I guess every village has someone with huge jugs....a swordsman babe with huge knockers......nice........also...we get to see all the 7 swordsmans.....and hmmm the other 2 kages that we never seen......interesting ...interesting.....

[shailks]

i stell dont know why orochimaru thought that his hands would get healed. i mean he his arms soul (that name is stuped but you know what i mean)

Chakra is made up of spiritual and physical energies. So it is not unreasonable that it can't heal spiritual wounds (soul). If anything where ppl can bring back dead to alive it is only a trivial matter that one can heal souls.

[ouhei]

I don't think I could forgive Kishi offing Anko...

[zerocooldx]

So the Mizukage arrived with one of the Seven Swordsman of the Mist. Hmm i wonder what kind of a connection(s) the mist has/had with Madara and/or Kisame.

[THM Nindo]

Exactly what I feared when I saw Anko...
As soon as I saw her, and I knew that she was after Kabuto, I told myself : "No... if she's back and she's against Kabuto, she will be killed for sure...".

Apparantly, that's what Kishi had in mind.

But, it seems that he wants to kill her before she find out some valuable info that Kabuto has.
What if... What if Kabuto would actually be on the good side and helps in destroying Danzou's reputation by giving the good guy some info on Danzou. :tem

He's probably the only one that can, since everyone else have this tongue seal.

[Destined_One]

So the Mizukage arrived with one of the Seven Swordsman of the Mist. Hmm i wonder what kind of a connection(s) the mist has/had with Madara and/or Kisame.

Let's hope they aren't fodder.. because if the Mist, Rock kages are bad ass.. and have Ninja's like the swordsman who are elite.. we might have match up's for some of the side characters, ala Neji, Shikamaru, Gai, Anko etc..

[Zachc2009]

danzou probably does have some doujutsu and probably some good jutsu on the whole if he wants his other hand to work.

all the people who where saying danzou could pwn sasuke i think that looks like its not going to happen know we know his eye and arm are damaged

[sindergi]

Exactly what I feared when I saw Anko...
As soon as I saw her, and I knew that she was after Kabuto, I told myself : "No... if she's back and she's against Kabuto, she will be killed for sure...".

Apparantly, that's what Kishi had in mind.

But, it seems that he wants to kill her before she find out some valuable info that Kabuto has.
What if... What if Kabuto would actually be on the good side and helps in destroying Danzou's reputation by giving the good guy some info on Danzou. :tem

He's probably the only one that can, since everyone else have this tongue seal.

I dont think that Kabuto is on the good side, but it could be true that he will give some informations about Danzou - but not to help the good guys just because he has some advantage if he do it.
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danzou probably does have some doujutsu and probably some good jutsu on the whole if he wants his other hand to work.

all the people who where saying danzou could pwn sasuke i think that looks like its not going to happen know we know his eye and arm are damaged

A new one ? We just know about the Sharingan,Byakugan and the Rinnegan - and i hope he will not have one of these....i dont like doujutus :darn

[narengan]

i like to see all this kages with their "guards" - seems kishi introduces us some new interesting characters - i waited a long time now for the other swordsman :) jugs boys, jugs!^^

[laughing@you]

I dont think that Kabuto is on the good side, but it could be true that he will give some informations about Danzou - but not to help the good guys just because he has some advantage if he do it.




A new one ? We just know about the Sharingan,Byakugan and the Rinnegan - and i hope he will not have one of these....i dont like doujutus :darn

:err....his gonna give the good guys info, on probably the only ally he has?

We have to remember kabutoro lost everything, well almost everthing, the right move would be to get a foothold on konoha. if danzou would provide him help and stop running, he can probably restart his operations. so this is how kabutoro jump back to the scene. Now i'm really curious to see what exactly happened to danzou.

[narengan]

:err....his gonna give the good guys info, on probably the only ally he has?

We have to remember kabutoro lost everything, well almost everthing, the right move would be to get a foothold on konoha. if danzou would provide him help and stop running, he can probably restart his operations. so this is how kabutoro jump back to the scene. Now i'm really curious to see what exactly happened to danzou.

isn't the danzou / kabuto thing really similiar to orochimarus "aaah my powers are away, i need tsunade to heal my hands to become as powerful as before" =/ ?

[Mugiwara_no_Jack]

Nice thing with Canzou wanting Kabuto ... I am kinda curious about his power when his eye and hand work properly :)

[chess4]

Let's hope they aren't fodder.. because if the Mist, Rock kages are bad ass.. and have Ninja's like the swordsman who are elite.. we might have match up's for some of the side characters, ala Neji, Shikamaru, Gai, Anko etc..

just look at the swordsman of the mist we have seen so far. zabuza was on the same level as kakashi, and kisame is a animal. kakashi and gai are about the same, and kisame used 30% of his chakra and was holding his own against gai, so im sure the other swordsman will be strong.

SIDENOTE

since kishi has revealed one of the other swordsman of the mist........i wonder will there be 4 or 5 we havent seen. what im saying is remember the filler arc with with the swordsman of the mist in it, i wonder how kishi will handle this

[Randoug]

Please not Anko. She is too hot to die

[zerocooldx]

Please not Anko. She is too hot to die

And has done absolutely nothing meaningful since getting owned by Orochimaru back at the Chuunin Exams.

[sarutobi_sensei]

If he ends up having a doujutsu, I hope it's a new one and not related to the famous 3 :\

i'd hate it if he had sharingan :\

[laughing@you]

isn't the danzou / kabuto thing really similiar to orochimarus "aaah my powers are away, i need tsunade to heal my hands to become as powerful as before" =/ ?

Something like that except danzou has been like that for far longer than oro.

Plus the spoiler talks of actual plans or negotiations oro and danzou had. So this has further has further implications. Meaning just like sai carried info on tsunades personal guard as gift for oro, he might done the same thing when oro planned his invasion of konoha. So even though he proclamis his love for konoha, his making deals with the devil. Plus his been blaming the 3rd for all the bad things happening konoha, due to his teachings, when it has been danzou giving the helping hand to evil outsiders.

[zerocooldx]

Something like that except danzou has been like that for far longer than oro.

Plus the spoiler talks of actual plans or negotiations oro and danzou had. So this has further has further implications. Meaning just like sai carried info on tsunades personal guard as gift for oro, he might done the same thing when oro planned his invasion of konoha. So even though he proclamis his love for konoha, his making deals with the devil. Plus his been blaming the 3rd for all the bad things happening konoha, due to his teachings, when it has been danzou giving the helping hand to evil outsiders.

Well i think thats just reading far too deep into very limited translations.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Please not Anko. She is too hot to die

Yes she doesn't deserve.

Kill someone else. Kill Inoichi, chouza, aoba, genma, any of the jounins or special jounins (except kakashi anko gai kurenai neji).


And has done absolutely nothing meaningful since getting owned by Orochimaru back at the Chuunin Exams.

She's hot, who cares :eyeroll

[Razh]

I can't believe that we're finally going to see the 3rd swordsman. Just as I hoped.

[Kyuubinoyoko]

So Naruto offering himself as a punching bag means he would let them beat him up? Or he would battle them all by himself?

Because if its the latter it would be major pawnage on his part.:tem

[chess4]

she can help sakura, cause she needs:p

[adel123456789]

And has done absolutely nothing meaningful since getting owned by Orochimaru back at the Chuunin Exams.

all the charecters in naruto useless exept for some like naruto, shekamaru, kakashi..... other then the obvios the rest are useless like iruka, anko, ibisu, all the anbu in the manga, plus the sand ninjas (not gaara, temari, kankuru), hinata, hanabi, hihashi, the rest of the hyuuga (exept for neji), tenten obviosly, kurenai, ayime........... but that doesnt mean the charescter should die. in naruto or other stories, a useless charecter doent mean death. i mean temari, and kankoru are useless right but they wont die. anko may die but not she is useless.
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So Naruto offering himself as a punching bag means he would let them beat him up? Or he would battle them all by himself?

Because if its the latter it would be major pawnage on his part.:tem

if naruto takes sasuke's puneshment then he will die, and not just geting beaten up.

[zerocooldx]

all the charecters in naruto useless exept for some like naruto, shekamaru, kakashi..... other then the obvios the rest are useless like iruka, anko, ibisu, all the anbu in the manga, plus the sand ninjas (not gaara, temari, kankuru), hinata, hanabi, hihashi, the rest of the hyuuga (exept for neji), tenten obviosly, kurenai, ayime........... but that doesnt mean the charescter should die. in naruto or other stories, a useless charecter doent mean death. i mean temari, and kankoru are useless right but they wont die. anko may die but not she is useless.

But honestly its not like any of those Konoha character deaths will have a significant impact on the story line.

[sarutobi_sensei]

I can't believe that we're finally going to see the 3rd swordsman. Just as I hoped.

Technically it's the 4th. Raiga (I think that's the name) still counted even if he was just filler. He was given away by Kishimoto :\

[Kyuubinoyoko]

all the charecters in naruto useless exept for some like naruto, shekamaru, kakashi..... other then the obvios the rest are useless like iruka, anko, ibisu, all the anbu in the manga, plus the sand ninjas (not gaara, temari, kankuru), hinata, hanabi, hihashi, the rest of the hyuuga (exept for neji), tenten obviosly, kurenai, ayime........... but that doesnt mean the charescter should die. in naruto or other stories, a useless charecter doent mean death. i mean temari, and kankoru are useless right but they wont die. anko may die but not she is useless.
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if naruto takes sasuke's puneshment then he will die, and not just geting beaten up.

I think youre wrong about that. if anyone can take a beating and heal(from virtually anything) its Naruto. Besides, im sure he wouldnt allow himself to be injured to that extent.

[adel123456789]

I can't believe that we're finally going to see the 3rd swordsman. Just as I hoped.

that swordsmen is gonna battel sagetsu sence he is going to that summet.

[zerocooldx]

Technically it's the 4th. Raiga (I think that's the name) still counted even if he was just filler. He was given away by Kishimoto :\

No...Raiga was an EPIC failure of a character and has nothing to do with the plot line or any of the other swordsman for that fact.

[adel123456789]

I think youre wrong about that. if anyone can take a beating and heal(from virtually anything) its Naruto. Besides, im sure he wouldnt allow himself to be injured to that extent.

i dont mean it as in getten beeten to death. i mean, sence sasuke has a deathsentenc on him by danzou, and posebly the raikage, they will kill naruto in one hit (cut his head off) instead of sasuke if they actualy agree to make naruto take his place. naruto said a punshing bag becuase apearntly he doesnt know that they will kill him and not just beat the crap out of him.

[laughing@you]

Well i think thats just reading far too deep into very limited translations.

Noup thats called experience!! ;)

But you are right in one thing, is not too much of a spoiler, and normally the end product tends to be different. But the theory of oro having dealings with danzou has been speculated in this forum for years now.

[Zibi234]

anyway its funny how there is no one that bothers to translate the spoiler >__< we have a very rought summary that kinda says nothing... google translation can tell more but its very messed up...

its kinda splitted into 3parts.... kage meeting presentation - naruto wanting to be a punch bag in order for team samui wanting to kill sasuke [ehh kinda creepy... getting so much for a guy that doesnt even care about him... I hope that after this naruto wont hold back anymore and will wipe the ground with sasukes face....] and the last part about danzou plan....

But man makeing someone hokage that cant use any jutsu becouse of his arm.....maybe no one knows about his immobility since roots cant talk about danzou..... I hope that people will know and will vote for NO ^^

Maybe Temari or Kanouro can sneak into konoha and tell what happened... like what danzou did on the meeting.... started a war or things like that...

[Kyuubinoyoko]

i dont mean it as in getten beeten to death. i mean, sence sasuke has a deathsentenc on him by danzou, and posebly the raikage, they will kill naruto in one hit (cut his head off) instead of sasuke if they actualy agree to make naruto take his place. naruto said a punshing bag becuase apearntly he doesnt know that they will kill him and not just beat the crap out of him.

And therefore he said punching bag. He wouldnt let his head be severed. He isnt a retard.

He only wants them to loose some of their anger.

[sarutobi_sensei]

No...Raiga was an EPIC failure of a character and has nothing to do with the plot line or any of the other swordsman for that fact.

Raiga was still a swordsman of the mist.

He says it himself, kishi says it himself. and if kishi says it there isn't much way around it.

but yes a failure.

[adel123456789]

Technically it's the 4th. Raiga (I think that's the name) still counted even if he was just filler. He was given away by Kishimoto :\

if filler counted then we would have seen madara-tobi act like a fool all by himself. and raiga is filler unless kishimato said that he isnt, or he was the one wrote that filler episode like how toryama used to help writng the fillers.

[THM Nindo]

Technically it's the 4th. Raiga (I think that's the name) still counted even if he was just filler. He was given away by Kishimoto :\

Maybe, maybe not.
Eventually, Kishi will show them all in a Databook.

To me, Raigo never existed.
Until he's seen in the manga or in a Databook, he never existed.

But, I'm really happy to see more of the 7 Swordmen though...
I thought that Kishi had forgotten about them.

[adel123456789]

And therefore he said punching bag. He wouldnt let his head be severed. He isnt a retard.

He only wants them to loose some of their anger.

the only way they will loose some of there anger is when they find killer bee, and forget about that cloud ninja with the lizerd sasuke killed to there knoledg.
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Maybe, maybe not.
Eventually, Kishi will show them all in a Databook.

To me, Raigo never existed.
Until he's seen in the manga or in a Databook, he never existed.

But, I'm really happy to see more of the 7 Swordmen though...
I thought that Kishi had forgotten about them.

if we knew who wrote and helped with all the filler, then we would know if it counts or not.

[Kyuubinoyoko]

Why does everyone question Raigas existence. lol

He was in a movie wasnt he. Kishi wouldnt call him a swordsman of the mist unless he really wanted to add him to the group.

If he didnt he would have just made him a psycho swordsmen or something with no relation to that group.

[THM Nindo]

Why does everyone question Raigas existence. lol

He was in a movie wasnt he. Kishi wouldnt call him a swordsman of the mist unless he really wanted to add him to the group.

If he didnt he would have just made him a psycho swordsmen or something with no relation to that group.

Anime and Kishi are NOT the same thing.
What's is shown in the Anime is not canon, especially fillers.

You can only based any arguments from 3 things : the manga, the databook and the interviews (only the real ones!! :tem).

Even things that are not really fillers, can't be taken as granted in the anime (example : Gamabunta is not orange-ish as shown in the anime, he's pink).

[adel123456789]

Why does everyone question Raigas existence. lol

He was in a movie wasnt he. Kishi wouldnt call him a swordsman of the mist unless he really wanted to add him to the group.

If he didnt he would have just made him a psycho swordsmen or something with no relation to that group.

the movie, filler episode arnt wretten by kishimato. the anime team or someone else writes them. kishi could have wretten some filler for all we know but there isnt prof of that. for example all the naruto movies are wreten by Junki Takegami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto:_Shipp%C5%ABden_the_Movie) and they sucked.

[sarutobi_sensei]

He was filler, he was swordsman of the mist and defected just like the 2 other we know, kishi said it in a interview that it was his idea.

[donatelo]

Maybe, maybe not.
Eventually, Kishi will show them all in a Databook.

To me, Raigo never existed.
Until he's seen in the manga or in a Databook, he never existed.

But, I'm really happy to see more of the 7 Swordmen though...
I thought that Kishi had forgotten about them.

im hoping for a color spread like wat he did with the nine bijju hosts
that would be neat :D



everything on the chapter seems nice .......just want naruto (character) part of the manga to move forward( too slow )......how long will the cloud stay ,they were in a hurry no ?

[chess4]

No...Raiga was an EPIC failure of a character and has nothing to do with the plot line or any of the other swordsman for that fact.

regardless, i still think kishi has to clear it up though, and yes i know the anime is based off the manga not the other way around, but kishi must clear it up for the sake of the reader.

yes kishi is the author but he throws us(the reader) bones every now and then, like he did with naruto and the cape.

kishi can clear it up with two line.

naruto: how are there 5 more swordsman of the mist when 2 are already dead.

swordsman of the mist: the idiot raiga, he was nothing but a second rate ninja, and he was not one of us.


kishi can easily clear it up.......i hope he does and doesnt just act like it doesnt matter

[bean]

regardless, i still think kishi has to clear it up though, and yes i know the anime is based off the manga not the other way around, but kishi must clear it up for the sake of the reader.

yes kishi is the author but he throws us(the reader) bones every now and then, like he did with naruto and the cape.

kishi can clear it up with two line.

naruto: how are there 5 more swordsman of the mist when 2 are already dead.

swordsman of the mist: the idiot raiga, he was nothing but a second rate ninja, and he was not one of us.


kishi can easily clear it up.......i hope he does and doesnt just act like it doesnt matter
or he can simply show all the real swordsman and choose to ignore that raiga ever existed...because as far as he's concerned, he never did.

[Castanaver]

can we please get back on topic? i hate to having to go back and forth, just to try to attempt to remember who you guys are talking about lol... nonetheless, it IS off topic!

[shawna1485]

so danzou wants oros' books to fix his eye and his hand... interesting. I wonder if it is because anko and kabuto were pupils of oro why he wants to kill them-they know stuff about him or is he afraid of oros' jutsus? I think he is interested in oro's snake techniques and abilities especially the healing part. Anko may have been watching him when the other kage was in charge. The cloud ninja should use sakura as their punching bag!!

[THM Nindo]

He was filler, he was swordsman of the mist and defected just like the 2 other we know, kishi said it in a interview that it was his idea.

Which interview?!
One of the 100 fake interviews on the web?

[bean]

He was filler, he was swordsman of the mist and defected just like the 2 other we know, kishi said it in a interview that it was his idea.
most likely that interview was fake. As it stands, if he wasn't mentioned in the manga, or even the data books if you want to refer to those, he never existed.

[Razh]

Technically it's the 4th. Raiga (I think that's the name) still counted even if he was just filler. He was given away by Kishimoto :\

Didn't know that. Yes, it's Raiga. :s

So, did Sasuke finally flip? First, he was going to kill Danzo and elders, then he changed his goal into destroying Konoha. And now, suddenly he wants to kill every Kage? Isn't that a little too random?
What if someone were to kill every Kage before him? Would he burn the whole world with Amaterasu?:p

[sindergi]

Didn't know that. Yes, it's Raiga. :s

So, did Sasuke finally flip? First, he was going to kill Danzo and elders, then he changed his goal into destroying Konoha. And now, suddenly he wants to kill every Kage? Isn't that a little too random?
What if someone were to kill every Kage before him? Would he burn the whole world with Amaterasu?:p

Not every Kage - just Danzou. it was just a bad translation by sleepyfans.

Yes I think Sasuke fliped out - but a long time ago :D

[sarutobi_sensei]

Ok, fine sue me XD

I don't care if he was or wasn't, I just wanna see the rest of them.

[Parth]

dont really care abt danzo (not at this stage atleast)

but wats with naruto offering himself? sounds stupid, but probably will sound proper once the whole things come up..

anyway. orochimaru trained anko.. and OBV danzo was in touch with oro for watever reason.. thats y now wants to get rid of anko.. hmm.. sounds interesting..

[bean]

just wait until the chapter comes out. If this new swordsman has a big ass sword, we can logically assume that all the others had big ass swords (I wanna see if it looks similar to any swords in that madara&kyuubi vs shodaime spread) and thus raiga remains nonexistent to the manga and is just anime filler bullshit. If he's carrying a small sword, we'll just have to wait until raiga is confirmed to be part of canon as well.

[akatsuki27]

dont really care abt danzo (not at this stage atleast)

but wats with naruto offering himself? sounds stupid, but probably will sound proper once the whole things come up..

anyway. orochimaru trained anko.. and OBV danzo was in touch with oro for watever reason.. thats y now wants to get rid of anko.. hmm.. sounds interesting..

what i think is that anko was tracking kabuto to capture him and bring him to konoha...danzou doesnt want that i guess. he wants root to capture/kill him so they can take his medical journals

hopefully more light will be shed on that

[Razh]

Not every Kage - just Danzou. it was just a bad translation by sleepyfans.

Yes I think Sasuke fliped out - but a long time ago :D

Yeah, I should have wrote "completely flip".

Still, I don't see why he would want to know where the Kage meeting is going to be if he isn't confident that he can take all of them.

What is the best way to kill a crippled Hokage?

-Wait for him to be somewhere where the security is minimal?

-NO, go after him when he's with 4 of the strongest people in the world and their best bodyguards!

[shawna1485]

when naruto, sai, sakura and the wood guy went to oros' hide out, sai was carrying info on all of the kages jounins to give oro. I think he wanted to make a deal with oro; oro knows his business. Now that oro is "dead" he wants kabuto dead (the closest person to oro who would know) and take his book; kabuto has always had an info book. There are 101 reasons why he also wants sasuke dead. I reeeaaallyy want to know kishi s' reason as to why he wants anko dead.

[adel123456789]

dont really care abt danzo (not at this stage atleast)

but wats with naruto offering himself? sounds stupid, but probably will sound proper once the whole things come up..

anyway. orochimaru trained anko.. and OBV danzo was in touch with oro for watever reason.. thats y now wants to get rid of anko.. hmm.. sounds interesting..

danzou wants to get red of anko because she was trained oro 16 years ago. it doesnt make senc at all. what ever his reasons are, right now danzou isnt that interesting.

naruto says that to probebly make cloud think what is this sasuke guy to him anyway and get touched by it, so they will change there minds.

man, i hope one of the kages is a hot chick.
[hr]

when naruto, sai, sakura and the wood guy went to oros' hide out, sai was carrying info on all of the kages jounins to give oro. I think he wanted to make a deal with oro; oro knows his business. Now that oro is "dead" he wants kabuto dead (the closest person to oro who would know) and take his book; kabuto has always had an info book. There are 101 reasons why he also wants sasuke dead. I reeeaaallyy want to know kishi s' reason as to why he wants anko dead.

didnt danzou want to help oro so they can rule konoha or something

[sarutobi_sensei]

Well from the image shown of the swordsmans of the mist, one of them had a normal looking sword (modifying with the colours of the image shows this).

[Parth]

danzou wants to get red of anko because she was trained oro 16 years ago. it doesnt make senc at all. what ever his reasons are, right now danzou isnt that interesting.

naruto says that to probebly make cloud think what is this sasuke guy to him anyway and get touched by it, so they will change there minds.

man, i hope one of the kages is a hot chick.
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nah, im guessing WAY LONG BACK, when anko trained under oro,, danzo and oro mite have gotten together and done something wrong/bad,, which now might come up during the voting period,, which is y danzo wants anko either dead/under control/

[gold349]

when naruto, sai, sakura and the wood guy went to oros' hide out, sai was carrying info on all of the kages jounins to give oro. I think he wanted to make a deal with oro; oro knows his business. Now that oro is "dead" he wants kabuto dead (the closest person to oro who would know) and take his book; kabuto has always had an info book. There are 101 reasons why he also wants sasuke dead. I reeeaaallyy want to know kishi s' reason as to why he wants anko dead.


it was a list of anbu currently under control of the hokage...Yamoto took the list back, Kabuto left it in sai's room, Yamaoto snuck into Sai's room and also took them with him.

[dewy]

I think Danzo wants Kabuto alive so he can heal him, an d offer help in return. But what Danzo is in for is a real surprise as Kabuto has Oro in him as well, and will prob kill Danzou.

This could bring Oro back into the manga. i.e. Root capture Kabuto, Kabuto meets Danzou face to face, kabuto beats everyone up and somehow release oro into Danzou's body and Oro is now hokage.....

[gold349]

nah, im guessing WAY LONG BACK, when anko trained under oro,, danzo and oro mite have gotten together and done something wrong/bad,, which now might come up during the voting period,, which is y danzo wants anko either dead/under control/

maybe knew of his experiments, Oro promised to fix his eye and arm as long as he is allowed to continue with his experiments?...wouldn't want it coming out at a time like now.

[Hrathgrath]

Didn't know that. Yes, it's Raiga. :s

So, did Sasuke finally flip? First, he was going to kill Danzo and elders, then he changed his goal into destroying Konoha. And now, suddenly he wants to kill every Kage? Isn't that a little too random?
What if someone were to kill every Kage before him? Would he burn the whole world with Amaterasu?:p

He hasn't flipped at all. He wanted to kill His brother, everything he did was to accomplish that goal. And when he did, befiore he had two seconds to decide what to do next Madara hopped in and spun a story giving him another purpose, To avenge his brother, now seen as a good guy, by killing the people that drove him to being insane. Why he agreed to go after Hachibi, I'm not sure, but he's always been after Danzo and Co.. Which is why he was going to Konoha, and why he's going to the summit. TO KILL DANZO, if he has to kill the other kage to do that, so be it, but it's not the main goal.

[Parth]

I think Danzo wants Kabuto alive so he can heal him, an d offer help in return. But what Danzo is in for is a real surprise as Kabuto has Oro in him as well, and will prob kill Danzou.

This could bring Oro back into the manga. i.e. Root capture Kabuto, Kabuto meets Danzou face to face, kabuto beats everyone up and somehow release oro into Danzou's body and Oro is now hokage.....

LOL!! thats one hell of a plot!!!
[hr]

He hasn't flipped at all. He wanted to kill His brother, everything he did was to accomplish that goal. And when he did, befiore he had two seconds to decide what to do next Madara hopped in and spun a story giving him another purpose, To avenge his brother, now seen as a good guy, by killing the people that drove him to being insane. Why he agreed to go after Hachibi, I'm not sure, but he's always been after Danzo and Co.. Which is why he was going to Konoha, and why he's going to the summit. TO KILL DANZO, if he has to kill the other kage to do that, so be it, but it's not the main goal.

sounds flipped to me!:p

its exactly as itachi said.. sasuke is tooo 'pure' and can be coloured in anyway.. that is getting prooved by him not even stoping to think for a minute before changing his opinions/goals etc.. he didnt even think of not believing madara's story ,, just coz of a tear drop he remembers from 'THAT NIGHT'

plus he's definate4ly smart enough to know that killing a kage is the VERST crime..and will definately trigger a war.. its obv called 'flipping' if u dont know wat ur actions will do to the world!/.

[Nonlife]

He'd...better not...kill...Anko

[Razh]

He hasn't flipped at all. He wanted to kill His brother, everything he did was to accomplish that goal. And when he did, befiore he had two seconds to decide what to do next Madara hopped in and spun a story giving him another purpose, To avenge his brother, now seen as a good guy, by killing the people that drove him to being insane. Why he agreed to go after Hachibi, I'm not sure, but he's always been after Danzo and Co.. Which is why he was going to Konoha, and why he's going to the summit. TO KILL DANZO, if he has to kill the other kage to do that, so be it, but it's not the main goal.

Sasuke is much too confident if he expects that he's going to manage to kill Danzo while the security is at it's peak.
I simply meant that he is a moron for not waiting for a better opportunity or using the opportunity now. Kage summit should be of no interest to him if he wants only Danzo.

What's with the story recap?

[bean]

Well from the image shown of the swordsmans of the mist, one of them had a normal looking sword (modifying with the colours of the image shows this).
um...what image?

[Hrathgrath]

Sasuke is much too confident if he expects that he's going to manage to kill Danzo while the security is at it's peak.
I simply meant that he is a moron for not waiting for a better opportunity or using the opportunity now. Kage summit should be of no interest to him if he wants only Danzo.

What's with the story recap?

Story recap was just to explain my point better.
Mission one-Kill Itachi
Misson two- Kill Danzo

Not a straight line, but didn't change, or flip his goal

[sarutobi_sensei]

um...what image?
flashback on the anime. Again I don't really know if this happened in the manga or not, so don't kill me.

[bean]

flashback on the anime. Again I don't really know if this happened in the manga or not, so don't kill me.
there's your problem. Remember, this discussion board is a MANGA DISCUSSION board. Whatever happened in the anime has no relevance here.

[Weapon_X]

Lots of goos shit about to happen in the manga, mainly revealing new characters. Danzou better not kill Anko though, even though she ain't done much but she isn't hindering anything in the manga either.

Can't wait to see the remaining 5 Swordsmen of the Mist. Suigetsu's death? Ring a bell if he wants to get all of their swords? LOL They are gonna whoop his ass to downtown if he tries to take on all 5 of them.

[Sanadan]

I think Danzo wants Kabuto alive so he can heal him, an d offer help in return. But what Danzo is in for is a real surprise as Kabuto has Oro in him as well, and will prob kill Danzou.

This could bring Oro back into the manga. i.e. Root capture Kabuto, Kabuto meets Danzou face to face, kabuto beats everyone up and somehow release oro into Danzou's body and Oro is now hokage.....I actually kinda like this theory. Would create a shit storm in the Naruto world :P

[sarutobi_sensei]

LOLOLOL so we see a possible relative to Kisame xD

I'm beginning to like the Mizukage already xD (she's got the same personality of Boa and Tsunade xD)

So it "could" only be a Swordsman of the mist, but I have a feeling it is.

Tsuchikage seems like he's okay, doesn't want his subordinates to take his stuff.

And Raikage = Gai/Lee. Great... another one... (love it ^^) xD

[Sanadan]

Lots of goos shit about to happen in the manga, mainly revealing new characters. Danzou better not kill Anko though, even though she ain't done much but she isn't hindering anything in the manga either.

Can't wait to see the remaining 5 Swordsmen of the Mist. Suigetsu's death? Ring a bell if he wants to get all of their swords? LOL They are gonna whoop his ass to downtown if he tries to take on all 5 of them.

There are so many interesting characters in the Narutoworld. kishi should, when the main story ends, start a series of mini series about akatsuki members, the 7 swords men and other interesting characters. Everythin leading up to what we have seen. Would kick ass.

[Trafalgar SoD]

so naruto is going to go into sage mode and let the cloud ninja release all their pent up anger on him, and when they get tired and naruto is still standing there unscathed they are going to think holy shit we don't want to fuck with him anymore.

[THM Nindo]

There are so many interesting characters in the Narutoworld. kishi should, when the main story ends, start a series of mini series about akatsuki members, the 7 swords men and other interesting characters. Everythin leading up to what we have seen. Would kick ass.

Actually, what I would like to see, once it's done, is a mini-serie about Konohamaru who does stuff while Naruto is Hokage :tem

That would be nice to see :p

On-topic, I think this meeting won't go well.
Danzou is a bastard, Raikage is furious, and Gaara won't let them do what they want.

As for the others, we don't really know them, but if Mizukage is with one Swordman (weren't they all supposed to be evil Missing-nin?!), I'm guessing it's not looking good.

As for Tsuchikage, as far as we know, the Rock country is the enemy of the Fire country, so...

All-out war coming soon!! :tem

[vintagemistakes]

Danzou needing Kabuto to heal his arm/eye kinda puts an end to the whole Danzou=Madara doesn't it?

Anyways... its awesome to see the other Kages. I hope they and their subordinates play a decent size role in the rest of the story. I would hate for them to just appear for the Summit and than disappear for the rest of the story.

[chess4]

fianlly gets some dessription of the other kages........cant wait to see what they look like. things are about to kick into gear now.

[street_san]

Kishi is preparing an awesome arc now. Revealing some powerful character, Sasuke going to the Kage Summit. It sure going to be epic.

And people have to stop thinking that Sasuke would go to the summit without any plan. The guy is not stupid.

If he's going to kill Danzo at the Kage Summit...then he know quite well that it's not going to be easy. He'll have to sneak in without beeing notice and...if possible going into no fights. That's why he have Karin. She can detect chakra. This is indeed a huge asset in those kind of mission.

[digitaldude]

I see why tsunade`s in a coma, there can only be one big breasted kage at the summit( that`s if mizukage really is tsuande with different hair.)

[Sanadan]

I predict Gaara owning Suigetsus ass. Huge sand wave> Water

[taniquetil]

I thought Kisame recognized Tobi/Madara as the Mizukage? But the real Mizukage is a girl? Or is possibly Tobi the previous generation's Mizukage?

What's going on here?

[digitaldude]

Tobi is the former mizukage, not the current one.

[kitten320]

Am I the only one who gets annoyed with Naruto?
Just come on! No one cares about Sasuke except his team!

And damn... "Kick me instead of him"? Just what the hell! Naruto get some brains already!
I so hope Sasuke will die in the end! I don't want another bad guy becoming good because of Naruto's so called 'abilities' -_-

[Kyuubinoyoko]

Am I the only one who gets annoyed with Naruto?
Just come on! No one cares about Sasuke except his team!

And damn... "Kick me instead of him"? Just what the hell! Naruto get some brains already!
I so hope Sasuke will die in the end! I don't want another bad guy becoming good because of Naruto's so called 'abilities' -_-

I agree. Sasuke doesnt care about anyone in Konoha. Why does Naruto still give a shxt? Who knows.

But he is all about never going back on his word. And he told Itachi that no matter what he would get sasuke back.

[bighawke5]

And damn... "Kick me instead of him"? Just what the hell! Naruto get some brains already!


im wit you there lol meh kishi has to make naruto look stupid again....i mean he spent whole prev chapts making naruto look cool as shiet......its time he downgrades him to his liking...smh...

[Randoug]

WTF!!! Naruto has made himself into the human punching bag....ughh. Am I the only one who thinks that these Kumogakure jerks are acting too arrogant and Naruto is being too sensitive. Sasuke doesn't deserve to get punched for. Not even Aang would act like this.

[Weapon_X]

Here I thought Naruto was grown up and yet he is taking the blame for Sasuke? Why should Naruto deserve all the hits and the blame when it should be Sasuke? Man, Naruto cares TOO much about Sasuke. I feel sorry for Naruto here, he didn't do anything and it's just a sad moment for him and the fans who are going to see him getting beats by the Kumo nins. Naruto already's gone through a hell in his life, this has nothing to do with him and yet... ARGH! Naruto is Naruto I suppose.

If Sasuke does ever find out about what Naruto did to cover his back, he better be greatful otherwise I'd be really pissed off with Kishi. -_-;

[Nonlife]

WTF!!! Naruto has made himself into the human punching bag....ughh. Am I the only one who thinks that these Kumogakure jerks are acting too arrogant and Naruto is being too sensitive. Sasuke doesn't deserve to get punched for. Not even Aang would act like this.

Reminds me o Kuwabara's code of honor from episode...3? of Yu Yu Hakusho.

[Randoug]

I really don't like where this manga is going. Naruto is made to look like a bafoon to many times because of the sake of someone who doesn't understand the pointlessness of revenge.

[kazeofsilence]

Tobi is the former mizukage, not the current one.

One thing I hope to find out is which Mizukage is the current one. That is, the number of the current one. The five great nations did not all start to have Kage and main Hidden villages at the same time, or so I gathered. The current spoiler update says that the Tsuchikage is rather old, so I would not doubt if he is the Nidaime or Sandaime Tsuchikage. Raikage seems to be at most Sanin age and at least ten years older than Minato and Yondaime Kazekage which would put him at probably being Yondaime Raikage. The Mizukage is the crux though.

Anyone remember who is Konoha's atchnemesis when it comes to main Hidden villages? Thats right, Hidden Mist which is ruled by the Mizukage. In my opinion, I believe Madara helped found the Hidden Mist and is probably either the Shodaime Mizukage or the Nidaime Mizukage. Again thats my opinion, this Mizukage though, if I had to guess, is maybe the Yondaime. Remember Zabuza attempted a coup de detat after the Mizukage of the time disbanded the Seven Swordsmen(Not sure really, I know people have mentioned this before but I can't remember it in the manga, so correct me if I am wrong.), and to me it seemed as if Kisame's relief of Madara being the leader of Akatsuki hinted at a loyalty that maybe the Seven Swordmen had before that specific Mizukage disbanded them. What I'm trying to get at is possibly this Mizukage is the one after the one that disbanded the Swordsmen.

[Destined_One]

im wit you there lol meh kishi has to make naruto look stupid again....i mean he spent whole prev chapts making naruto look cool as shiet......its time he downgrades him to his liking...smh...

How does that make him look stupid? if anything it shows how selfless he is.. again he sacrifices his own well being, to break the chain of hatred.. Against Nagato, he had every right to have his revenge, yet cast aside and spared the man who caused him so much grief.. Again, Sasuke made his own choices, but for everyone else sake, he takes the burden..It may be annoying, but we all know Naruto will never give up on Sasuke.. He will never go back on his word, because thats his...? I think you know the rest... I just hope he doesn't stop kicking ass altogether.. it was the most entertaining part lol

[digitaldude]

Here I thought Naruto was grown up and yet he is taking the blame for Sasuke? Why should Naruto deserve all the hits and the blame when it should be Sasuke? Man, Naruto cares TOO much about Sasuke. I feel sorry for Naruto here, he didn't do anything and it's just a sad moment for him and the fans who are going to see him getting beats by the Kumo nins. Naruto already's gone through a hell in his life, this has nothing to do with him and yet... ARGH! Naruto is Naruto I suppose.

If Sasuke does ever find out about what Naruto did to cover his back, he better be greatful otherwise I'd be really pissed off with Kishi. -_-;

Yeah, this is something beyond friendship, maybe naruto does this, to thank sasuke for stepping in front of haku`s needles.

[THM Nindo]

Danzou needing Kabuto to heal his arm/eye kinda puts an end to the whole Danzou=Madara doesn't it?
Anyways... its awesome to see the other Kages. I hope they and their subordinates play a decent size role in the rest of the story. I would hate for them to just appear for the Summit and than disappear for the rest of the story.

Hopefully... :eyeroll

But I'm afraid that there will always be people that will continue with that freaking theory that never made sense whatsoever -_-;

[Kyuubinoyoko]

Yeah, this is something beyond friendship, maybe naruto does this, to thank sasuke for stepping in front of haku`s needles.

Yep. That was the good sasuke. Who knows if he exists anymore.

[THM Nindo]

Am I the only one who gets annoyed with Naruto?
Just come on! No one cares about Sasuke except his team!

And damn... "Kick me instead of him"? Just what the hell! Naruto get some brains already!
I so hope Sasuke will die in the end! I don't want another bad guy becoming good because of Naruto's so called 'abilities' -_-

This is nothing compared to Ichigo's "I cut your arm, so cut my arm so that it's fair"...
that was so lame... -_-;

I agree that this doesn't make Naruto looks cool at all.
Actually, the Cloud nins are pretty stupid to go along with what he said and hit him...

[Randoug]

Sasuke is trying to act cool and play like he doesn't care for anything other than revenge but i believe deep down inside him he still misses the team. After saying this I still don't like him. In the words of Dewey Cox's father "the wrong kid died" (obviously Itachi lol).

[digitaldude]

This is nothing compared to Ichigo's "I cut your arm, so cut my arm so that it's fair"...
that was so lame... -_-;

I agree that this doesn't make Naruto looks cool at all.
Actually, the Cloud nins are pretty stupid to go along with what he said and hit him...

I hope they don`t push him over the edge with punches and sasuke insults, he`d pop out a tail for sure.

[Parth]

WTF!!! Naruto has made himself into the human punching bag....ughh. Am I the only one who thinks that these Kumogakure jerks are acting too arrogant and Naruto is being too sensitive. Sasuke doesn't deserve to get punched for. Not even Aang would act like this.

hmm,, this is the 'GANDHI-ji' way of fighting.. (hopefully ull will know him :P)
and well.. it does work!!
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I hope they don`t push him over the edge with punches and sasuke insults, he`d pop out a tail for sure.

lol.. nah.. that wont happen now.. now no matter wat, naruto wont let anything like this happen.. especially not when he can feel kumo-nins pain.

[axellover2]

Well at least one other kage's is a girl.I would of loled if it was Madara dressing up in drag.Anyway unsurprising is the way Naruto would like to become a human punching bag for Sasuke/

[THM Nindo]

One thing I hope to find out is which Mizukage is the current one. That is, the number of the current one. The five great nations did not all start to have Kage and main Hidden villages at the same time, or so I gathered. The current spoiler update says that the Tsuchikage is rather old, so I would not doubt if he is the Nidaime or Sandaime Tsuchikage. Raikage seems to be at most Sanin age and at least ten years older than Minato and Yondaime Kazekage which would put him at probably being Yondaime Raikage. The Mizukage is the crux though.


yes, thinking about it, only Konoha call their Kage by their number (Shodaime, Nidaime, Sandaime, Yondaime, Godaime, and now Rokudaime).

Gaara hasn't been called Godaime even once. He was always called Kazekage.

I don't know why...

[Parth]

Sasuke is trying to act cool and play like he doesn't care for anything other than revenge but i believe deep down inside him he still misses the team. After saying this I still don't like him. In the words of Dewey Cox's father "the wrong kid died" (obviously Itachi lol).

yah he does!. it was sort of prooved wen he thought of team 7 while fighting hachibi (JUST before using amaterasu)

[Trafalgar SoD]

Yep. That was the good sasuke. Who knows if he exists anymore.

o he still there just in black op mode so nobody (in the manga) will see that he is a emo little bitch that still misses team 7.

has anybody thought that maybe team 7 or the # 7 has a meaning in NARUTO. The number seven is ruled by Neptune, which rules the emotions. Look up the meaning of the number seven. or am i just fucked up in the head?

[Parth]

yes, thinking about it, only Konoha call their Kage by their number (Shodaime, Nidaime, Sandaime, Yondaime, Godaime, and now Rokudaime).

Gaara hasn't been called Godaime even once. He was always called Kazekage.

I don't know why...

quite frankly, dont care y..
kishi writes it from our point of view,, since we are 'konoha-ians' we care/know about first-second-thir.... hokages,, but rest of the place's leader for us, would just be their respective kage's//

[nat]

Danzou is more involved with Oro than he showed before?!

plot thickens.

[sarutobi_sensei]

they only refer to them by the number when announcing them. Like it was mentioned that Gaara's father was the Yondaime Kazekage and that he's the Godaime Kazekage.

And normally people in Konoha refer to Tsunade either by Hokage-same or Godaime-sama.

It's just a way that they're used to call them.

They call the raikage, only Raikage and not Raikage-sama.

[THM Nindo]

Danzou is more involved with Oro than he showed before?!

plot thickens.

Maybe.
He might only been referring to the fact that he gave him the list of all Ambu's members...

But, it's not out of the question to think that he might have been with him for the first attack that was made to kill Sandaime...
But, in that case, why wouldn't he have tried to get the Kage title at that time?

[chess4]

i hope gamatora pops up and thinks that naruto is in trouble, he then summons ma and pa, then they step in and get loose

[stepsa]

Hopefully... :eyeroll

But I'm afraid that there will always be people that will continue with that freaking theory that never made sense whatsoever -_-;

When i see Danzo and eye in the same sentence it gets me thinkin bout it
But im not a fan of that theory so im gonna drop it :p

Well one thing is sure Danzo is a shady man and im starting to think he is more capable fightning wise than people think

[Jspot]

I don't see why everyone is so upset that Naruto is taking in the hate that they are harboring, rather than have them kill Sasuke. This is beyond his childhood bond with Sasuke now. This is about the recycling of hatred that the ninja system creates. This is the first step toward his answer... as stupid as it is.

It's even more stupid if Killerbee winds up dying, because then they'll just hate again... heh.

[digitaldude]

So, since danzou only has one working arm can he do one hand seals like haku?

[bighawke5]

WTF!!! Naruto has made himself into the human punching bag....ughh. Am I the only one who thinks that these Kumogakure jerks are acting too arrogant and Naruto is being too sensitive. Sasuke doesn't deserve to get punched for. Not even Aang would act like this.

I'll tell you who deserves to be a punch bag....sakura!

[weehoo107]

I just have to say one thing: Naruto is the man.

Taking hits from two people he barely knows in exchange for not spilling the beans about Sasuke. That's gutsy. But then we always knew that Naruto was gutsy.

I don't know why, but somehow I think I'd be more happy to see that scene then seeing Sasuke fight Naruto. Unless Kishi makes it awesomely epic^^


I'll tell you who deserves to be a punch bag....sakura!
yeah, I could go for that too. :D

[adel123456789]

I'll tell you who deserves to be a punch bag....sakura!

agree. lol

anyway, who is a apanman in the spoiler

[ZShadow07]

If the mizukage is Tobi then he's that girl, however kisame could've meant that he was the former kage or not. Could that look alike tsunade be one of tobi underlings?

[digitaldude]

agree. lol

anyway, who is a apanman in the spoiler

http://marissacooke.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/anpanman11.jpg

I think they mean anpanman!

[bighawke5]

This is nothing compared to Ichigo's "I cut your arm, so cut my arm so that it's fair"...
that was so lame... -_-;

I agree that this doesn't make Naruto looks cool at all.
Actually, the Cloud nins are pretty stupid to go along with what he said and hit him...

tru that was my point also....i thought they would hesitate but mofos didnt flinch from what spoiler is describing...

its like their maturity goes as far as beating up a 5yo cuz he called them stupid or weak...

[redred]

So, since danzou only has one working arm can he do one hand seals like haku?
now that theres a connection between danzou and oros
research, im more interested in knowing how he lost use of that arm
maybe it happened in an exchange with sarutobi since he appears
to have a fondness in disabling peoples arms >__>
(ofc it couldnt have been the sealing tech cause he would've died xD)

[bighawke5]

Danzou is more involved with Oro than he showed before?!

plot thickens.

wouldnt be surprised if kishi is setting up kabutomaru vs sasuke soon lol (wit all the mention of kabuto and all..)

lols sasuke aint killing no Danzou...kabutomaru will prob claim his pray and that'll spare Danzou's life....

[THM Nindo]

I just have to say one thing: Naruto is the man.

Taking hits from two people he barely knows in exchange for not spilling the beans about Sasuke. That's gutsy. But then we always knew that Naruto was gutsy.

I don't know why, but somehow I think I'd be more happy to see that scene then seeing Sasuke fight Naruto. Unless Kishi makes it awesomely epic^^


yeah, I could go for that too. :D

Like this was going to work. -_-;
It might work with the two retarded Cloud nin, but as soon as Samui will ask for info on Sasuke, she will not accept "No" as an answer.

And she won't be stupid enough to agree on hitting him in exchange...

[Trafalgar SoD]

I don't see why everyone is so upset that Naruto is taking in the hate that they are harboring, rather than have them kill Sasuke. This is beyond his childhood bond with Sasuke now. This is about the recycling of hatred that the ninja system creates. This is the first step toward his answer... as stupid as it is.

It's even more stupid if Killerbee winds up dying, because then they'll just hate again... heh.

that is what naruto is going to be like whenever he becomes hokage if anybody from the village does something wrong to some other village naruto will step in and say dont punish them its my fault for being a lenient leader so punish me.

plus wasn't it naruto's fault that sasuke is a missing-nin so he should feel guilty when he heard that sasuke did something (even though he was the one who ended up the idiot) to hachibi.

that gives me another thought maybe hachibi has a way of disrupting the sharingan seeing how sasuke couldnt see through the clone.

[digitaldude]

wouldnt be surprised if kishi is setting up kabutomaru vs sasuke soon lol (wit all the mention of kabuto and all..)

lols sasuke aint killing no Danzou...kabutomaru will prob claim his pray and that'll spare Danzou's life....

I bet kabuto with his awesome body regeneration, survives sasukes amaterasu.

[redcometfm]

Jeez, Kishi just dropped the biggest hint ever of Danzo formerly being Madara haha
I guess Sai's book about the twin brothers is coming true in many ways.

[adel123456789]

http://marissacooke.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/anpanman11.jpg

I think they mean anpanman!

if that kage looks like that then he just became my faverot charecter

BTW: i think that women kage is p.m.sing or something
[hr]

Jeez, Kishi just dropped the biggest hint ever of Danzo formerly being Madara haha
I guess Sai's book about the twin brothers is coming true in many ways.

what do you mean and what hint

[bighawke5]

I bet kabuto with his awesome body regeneration, survives sasukes amaterasu.

shieeet....everything fails at glance of sasuke's hatred so idk..lol

[radicalbyte]

Is Danzou speaking literally of figuratively? His 'right arm' and 'right eye' might be refering to his partner....... the other surviving Uchiha..

[nat]

Like this was going to work. -_-;
It might work with the two retarded Cloud nin, but as soon as Samui will ask for info on Sasuke, she will not accept "No" as an answer.

And she won't be stupid enough to agree on hitting him in exchange...


They will be so touched by his selflessness that they'll grant him a place in their team, and he will invite them to Ramen.

[bean]

Jeez, Kishi just dropped the biggest hint ever of Danzo formerly being Madara haha
I guess Sai's book about the twin brothers is coming true in many ways.
I don't get what you mean here...explain?

[Csdabest]

that is what naruto is going to be like whenever he becomes hokage if anybody from the village does something wrong to some other village naruto will step in and say dont punish them its my fault for being a lenient leader so punish me.

plus wasn't it naruto's fault that sasuke is a missing-nin so he should feel guilty when he heard that sasuke did something (even though he was the one who ended up the idiot) to hachibi.

that gives me another thought maybe hachibi has a way of disrupting the sharingan seeing how sasuke couldnt see through the clone.

No doujutsu has been shown to be able to see through a shadow clone.

[Jspot]

No doujutsu has been shown to be able to see through a shadow clone.

It wasn't a shadow clone, though. It was a henge tentacle, no?

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

How are Cloud going to find Killer Bee? They need Kiba. Also the old man is Yoda type, those types are the ones you have to look out for.

[Gats]

Naruto has a strange way to channel others hatred but we must not forget that his new mission is to establish a real peace and for this he must try to act accordingly now. If it was only for Sasuke I don't know if he would let them beat him, since his new objective is now taken account (world peace, break the hatred etc) he had to find a way to calm down people hatred. And the way he acted can impress Omoi and Karui like "hm this guy is really not joking around, maybe we should listen him a little more".

Also, do not forget that this spoiler is an interpretation, what we'll see may be somewhat different.

[adel123456789]

wait a minute, why the hell isnt naruto telling them anything about sasuke. i mean, what the hell does naruto know about sasuke's abilty, he fought him 3 years ago. infact naruto knows nothing about sasuke right now. sasuke has a new history backround and new abelties that naruto doesnt even know of. god, naruto is such an idiot, but the kind of idiot you like. even if he does tell them, they will know nothing at all.
[hr]

How are Cloud going to find Killer Bee? They need Kiba. Also the old man is Yoda type, those types are the ones you have to look out for.

yah, it seems team 8 is coming back agen because of there traking abelties.

[narengan]

if that kage looks like that then he just became my faverot charecter

BTW: i think that women kage is p.m.sing or something
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what do you mean and what hint

you made my day :D that would be awesome :D !

[redcometfm]

Oh come on, its so obvious, think about it for a minute. Madara had an exhausting battle with the 1st, utilizing hand/seal techniques as well as Uchiha eye techniques in battle as well as to simultaneously control the Kyuubi. It was an EPIC battle. Something happened to his arm and eye, which Kishi has repeated as a motif with the Uchiha for god knows how long (let alone with Madara's own image and statue).
The book thing with the twin brothers is a huge symbolism and foreshadowing element that relates (not literally) to Naruto and Sasuke, Sasuke and Itachi, and now Danzo and Tobi the two "Madaras".

[patedecarne]

Naruto, get out of his manga, you don't deserve it...

"Please, don't beat up Sasuke, punch me instead, I'll be like a punching bag"..

C'mon, this is the most retarded, stupid and nonsense statement i've heard in my whole life...

Grow up, kid, grow up and give up of the stupid dreams and all these nonsense.

Even After everything he's passed, Naruto is just a childish person.. I'm done for with his character, let's just see the appearance of the kages. This is way better then Naruto character.

[dewy]

Oh come on, its so obvious, think about it for a minute. Madara had an exhausting battle with the 1st, utilizing hand/seal techniques as well as Uchiha eye techniques in battle as well as to simultaneously control the Kyuubi. It was an EPIC battle. Something happened to his arm and eye, which Kishi has repeated as a motif with the Uchiha for god knows how long (let alone with Madara's own image and statue).
The book thing with the twin brothers is a huge symbolism and foreshadowing element that relates (not literally) to Naruto and Sasuke, Sasuke and Itachi, and now Danzo and Tobi the two "Madaras".

wow, I think your reaching on this one =/

[bighawke5]

nd the way he acted can impress Omoi and Karui like "hm this guy is really not joking around, maybe we should listen him a little more".



more like "hm nice punching bag, maybe we should hit him more..."

[bean]

Oh come on, its so obvious, think about it for a minute. Madara had an exhausting battle with the 1st, utilizing hand/seal techniques as well as Uchiha eye techniques in battle as well as to simultaneously control the Kyuubi. It was an EPIC battle. Something happened to his arm and eye, which Kishi has repeated as a motif with the Uchiha for god knows how long (let alone with Madara's own image and statue).
The book thing with the twin brothers is a huge symbolism and foreshadowing element that relates (not literally) to Naruto and Sasuke, Sasuke and Itachi, and now Danzo and Tobi the two "Madaras".
none of that really makes any sense...first, madara is tobi and he seems to be ok with his eye and arms. So, are you saying madara/tobi is really an impostor, even though he has the sharingan? And how is this a repeated motif with the uchiha? it kinda sounds like you're just making stuff up...

as for the book, it doesn't really foreshadow any of those relationships...the book showed two "brothers" taking out people and assuming parts of them...they ultimately end up happy together...maybe for sasuke and naruto, but hardly...the book didn't show that the two brothers were opposing each other...

[Gats]

more like "hm nice punching bag, maybe we should hit him more..."

Yeah I knew you would think that way. Your signature speaks for you :tem

[chess4]

THIS IS OFF THE SUBJECT BUT....................danzou said something about he needs orochimaru's data to help his arm and his eye. he said this to ROOT members who he trusts a bit. if thats the case then that kills the danzou is madara in disguise theory

madara is in someones body clearly, so now it has to be obito's body. madara is the big boss, and kishi needs to tie the 4 main characters to him. naruto and sasuke are already on a crash course, and if he has obito's body then that would give kakashi a reason to hunt him

[bean]

THIS IS OFF THE SUBJECT BUT....................danzou said something about he needs orochimaru's data to help his arm and his eye. he said this to ROOT members who he trusts a bit. if thats the case then that kills the danzou is madara in disguise theory
well...not necessarily.... surprised no one has started a "obito is danzou" theory off of this new info.

[patedecarne]

more like "hm nice punching bag, maybe we should hit him more..."

Yeah, they could be nice, doing a great favor to everyone by killing Naruto in the process :mad

Anyway, Mizukage seems to be a pretty woman, and I'd like so much to see all the kages fighting, at least once

[bean]

Yeah, they could be nice, doing a great favor to everyone by killing Naruto in the process :mad

Anyway, Mizukage seems to be a pretty woman, and I'd like so much to see all the kages fighting, at least once
my understanding is that she's the youngest, right? so is she younger than gaara? if she is, I find it kinda unsettling.

[bighawke5]

my understanding is that she's the youngest, right? so is she younger than gaara? if she is, I find it kinda unsettling.

why? maybe she can hold her own in fights...and they dont have any older good leaders in her village..............................................yeah ur right...unsettling lol

[zerocooldx]

my understanding is that she's the youngest, right? so is she younger than gaara? if she is, I find it kinda unsettling.

Well Gaara is like 18-19ish so she could be like 17 lolz. Oh and i smell Madara's apprentice! :p

[kazeofsilence]

my understanding is that she's the youngest, right? so is she younger than gaara? if she is, I find it kinda unsettling.

I believe it meant the youngest of the ones representing the Hidden Mist.

[redcometfm]

who in hell confirmed Tobi IS Madara? That was all bullshit he spoonfed Sasuke that could manipulative lies or MPS/schizophrenic delusions he has. So Danzo being Madara is a very real possibility, which would make sense that he would be waiting in the shadows to take control of the country for his Uchiha clan.

[THM Nindo]

Well Gaara is like 18-19ish so she could be like 17 lolz. Oh and i smell Madara's apprentice! :p

Nope.
Gaara is one year younger than Naruto.

[bighawke5]

who in hell confirmed Tobi IS Madara? That was all bullshit he spoonfed Sasuke that could manipulative lies or MPS/schizophrenic delusions he has. So Danzo being Madara is a very real possibility, which would make sense that he would be waiting in the shadows to take control of the country for his Uchiha clan.

WTF? BUT TOBI IS MADARA!

[bean]

I believe it meant the youngest of the ones representing the Hidden Mist.
I hope that's the case...I didn't like gaara being a kage since he was so young...I didn't feel like he really proved himself, and if he was considered the strongest in the village, what does that say about the sand?

[Kozar927]

Madara =/= danzou
madara =/= Obito

Madara=Madara
Danzou=Danzou
Obito=dead

you people are projecting your crazy fantasies onto this manga, and it dosent make seance.
Its like you want it bad enough so it must be true, even though their is 0 facts to support any of this.

[adel123456789]

Naruto, get out of his manga, you don't deserve it...

"Please, don't beat up Sasuke, punch me instead, I'll be like a punching bag"..

C'mon, this is the most retarded, stupid and nonsense statement i've heard in my whole life...

Grow up, kid, grow up and give up of the stupid dreams and all these nonsense.

Even After everything he's passed, Naruto is just a childish person.. I'm done for with his character, let's just see the appearance of the kages. This is way better then Naruto character.

naruto tried to revolt on kishi, but he couldnt beat the power of the pen and the crack kishi is on.

[zerocooldx]

Nope.
Gaara is one year younger than Naruto.

Either way if shes a "genius" it makes no real difference how old she is.

[Jotaro Kujo]

I can't wait to see the third swordsman of the mist! Who knows how it will be his sword and who knows if it has any capacity like Kisame's Samehada

[ouhei]

who in hell confirmed Tobi IS Madara? That was all bullshit he spoonfed Sasuke that could manipulative lies or MPS/schizophrenic delusions he has. So Danzo being Madara is a very real possibility, which would make sense that he would be waiting in the shadows to take control of the country for his Uchiha clan.
Kishi confirmed it, Tobi is Madara...there's no way around that...

[bean]

who in hell confirmed Tobi IS Madara? That was all bullshit he spoonfed Sasuke that could manipulative lies or MPS/schizophrenic delusions he has. So Danzo being Madara is a very real possibility, which would make sense that he would be waiting in the shadows to take control of the country for his Uchiha clan.
well...let's see...jiraiya suspected him to be alive and coupled with minato's info, tobi being madara is confirmed. Pein called him madara. Itachi implanted a trap to spring at the sight of his (madara's) sharingan, and it sprung when tobi showed his face...confirms tobi is madara. Kisame saw his face and referred to him as madara, confirms tobi being madara...so...when has there been any doubt cast on tobi being madara?

[adel123456789]

Either way if shes a "genius" it makes no real difference how old she is.

it does for me, i always saw him as someone big and importent, him beingthe youngest kage is somthing to admire.

[chess4]

well...not necessarily.... surprised no one has started a "obito is danzou" theory off of this new info.

has to be my boy...............i mean its so obvious that its almost ridiculous. kakashi knows tobi has a sharingan, and i think kishi did that for a reason. i think he was dropping us (the readers) a clue

[sindergi]

well...not necessarily.... surprised no one has started a "obito is danzou" theory off of this new info.

Me too, but i hope that most of the people give up this theorie at last.
Wasnt Obitos right leg crushed by the rock too ? And in Nagatos flashback Danzou seems to be a Anbu-leader and I cant imagine how he get this position just with one arm and one eye........and I think the timing didnt fit.

[bean]

Madara =/= danzou
madara =/= Obito

Madara=Madara
Danzou=Danzou
Obito=dead

you people are projecting your crazy fantasies onto this manga, and it dosent make seance.
Its like you want it bad enough so it must be true, even though their is 0 facts to support any of this.
what did kakashi tell team 7 to do? that's what we're trying to do, to look underneath the underneath or whatever. But I wouldn't say 0 facts to support it...

[sindergi]

Madara =/= danzou
madara =/= Obito

Madara=Madara
Danzou=Danzou
Obito=dead

you people are projecting your crazy fantasies onto this manga, and it dosent make seance.
Its like you want it bad enough so it must be true, even though their is 0 facts to support any of this.

This sounds too "normal" for some people I think but I thinks its the most possible theorie.

[THM Nindo]

I can't wait to see the third swordsman of the mist! Who knows how it will be his sword and who knows if it has any capacity like Kisame's Samehada

And with a 3rd sword, we might be able to verify the theory that the 7 swords of the Swordsmen are the swords seen in that panel :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

So far, I can see Samehada and Zabuza's sword.
Let's see which one of them will the be the third's sword. :tem

[xaither]

WTF? BUT TOBI IS MADARA!

lmao just ignore the danzo and obito is madara thing, it seems some people like to over think things it help them kill the boredom and talk about something that does not make sense..... eventually kishi will show madara face and they all will be B slap by kishi with a " what a f-ing retarded thoery" and i be just lmao.

-wow we get to see the all the kage that be cool and naruto being a punching bag to release all the hate lol naruto good idea to help release the hate.... naruto is getting to mature fast lol

[bighawke5]

I can't wait to see the third swordsman of the mist! Who knows how it will be his sword and who knows if it has any capacity like Kisame's Samehada

i think we're getting to point where we can say "that's where suigetsu gets murdered brutally by new swordman of mist"...ugh cant wait..

[nat]

Yeah, they could be nice, doing a great favor to everyone by killing Naruto in the process :mad

Anyway, Mizukage seems to be a pretty woman, and I'd like so much to see all the kages fighting, at least once

I pray to kishi-kami she is not another big boobed useless woman.

what is it with pate and wanting everyone dead, first Kakashi, now Naruto?

Naruto is trying to be the light (not Yagami Light) of his world, and it seems he like taking the blame for everyone else. Especially his best friends, no need to wish him dead for that. He is maturing to be a global saint.

Besides it won't be long before Omoi and Kamui are part of his church.


on another note, is the other swordsman of mist blue skinned? or that privilege is only Kisame's?

[Schabrak]

what did kakashi tell team 7 to do? that's what we're trying to do, to look underneath the underneath or whatever. But I wouldn't say 0 facts to support it...
Yeah they have one fact in common: All three are/may be handicaped by only having one eye. I can't see any other, but Danzou and Madara trying to get the controll over Naruto.

[bean]

lmao just ignore the danzo and obito is madara thing, it seems some people like to over think things it help them kill the boredom and talk about something that does not make sense..... eventually kishi will show madara face and they all will be B slap by kishi with a " what a f-ing retarded thoery" and i be just lmao.

-wow we get to see the all the kage that be cool and naruto being a punching bag to release all the hate lol naruto good idea to help release the hate.... naruto is getting to mature fast lol
that's not what he's responding to, though...someone is claiming that tobi isn't madara...

[Arrogance]

Well now that was a horrible spoiler, no solid description of the plot =(. And why is Naruto a punching bag -______-

[xaither]

And with a 3rd sword, we might be able to verify the theory that the 7 swords of the Swordsmen are the swords seen in that panel :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

So far, I can see Samehada and Zabuza's sword.
Let's see which one of them will the be the third's sword. :tem

can you find that thunder guys sword the one that was in the anime and had that little boy in his [ sorry i forgot where he was hiding] but all i know is that he was one of the 7 swordsman and he had this thunder like sword

[bean]

Yeah they have one fact in common: All three are/may be handicaped by only having one eye. I can't see any other, but Danzou and Madara trying to get the controll over Naruto.
not to instigate:

both fought to be hokage
both wanted uchihas dead
both were involved with nagato's history

I'm just saying...kishi is keeping madara's physical identity a secret for a reason, and we're just trying to solve that mystery. I mean, why go through all the hoops of keeping his face hidden but tease us every so often if madara is just madara?

[Uzumaki Naruto]

I don't think Naruto is being stupid, I mean, I am pretty sure he believes the cloud ninjas when they say Sasuke was part of Akatsuki and captured another Jinchuuriky, let's not forget that Itachi warned Naruto that Sasuke could do this since he is easily manipulated.

What I think Naruto is doing is trying to stop the Cloud ninjas from going after Sasuke, because If they did eventually kill him, I am sure that a lot of people from Konoha would want to avenge Sasuke and the cycle of hatred would never end. Naruto is just trying to stop this cycle and make sure that he is the one that takes care of Sasuke when the time comes.

[bean]

can you find that thunder guys sword the one that was in the anime and had that little boy in his [ sorry i forgot where he was hiding] but all i know is that he was one of the 7 swordsman and he had this thunder like sword
stop...go back and read like ten pages back. Anime=/= manga, raiga never existed and he's not one of the swordsmen unless kishi names him in the manga.

[xaither]

that's not what he's responding to, though...someone is claiming that tobi isn't madara...

i know that i am just speaking for all the the theory about madara and who he really is lol.thanks thou for explaining

[zerocooldx]

I pray to kishi-kami she is not another big boobed useless woman.

what is it with pate and wanting everyone dead, first Kakashi, now Naruto?

Naruto is trying to be the light (not Yagami Light) of his world, and it seems he like taking the blame for everyone else. Especially his best friends, no need to wish him dead for that. He is maturing to be a global saint.

Besides it won't be long before Omoi and Kamui are part of his church.


on another note, is the other swordsman of mist blue skinned? or that privilege is only Kisame's?

I think his name just means blue.

[THM Nindo]

can you find that thunder guys sword the one that was in the anime and had that little boy in his [ sorry i forgot where he was hiding] but all i know is that he was one of the 7 swordsman and he had this thunder like sword

Nope.
Here's the "Lighting fangs" : http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_Fangs

And they can't be seen anywhere here :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

But I didn't expect it anyway, since this guy is fillers and never really existed to begin with. :tem

[xaither]

stop...go back and read like ten pages back. Anime=/= manga, raiga never existed and he's not one of the swordsmen unless kishi names him in the manga.

ooh i understand now lol, i always thought that there was some kind of connection i forgot that not everything the anime has is connected to the manga.... i am sorry about my foolish question lol.

[zerocooldx]

Nope.
Here's the "Lighting fangs" : http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_Fangs

And they can't be seen anywhere here :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

But I didn't expect it anyway, since this guy is fillers and never really existed to begin with. :tem

I don't see any of the current swords in here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/).

[agporto]

I pray to kishi-kami she is not another big boobed useless woman.

what is it with pate and wanting everyone dead, first Kakashi, now Naruto?

Naruto is trying to be the light (not Yagami Light) of his world, and it seems he like taking the blame for everyone else. Especially his best friends, no need to wish him dead for that. He is maturing to be a global saint.

Besides it won't be long before Omoi and Kamui are part of his church.


on another note, is the other swordsman of mist blue skinned? or that privilege is only Kisame's?


thank god there is still some sense on this forum.....naruto must now prove the "pretty words" he said to nagato....and he will have to keep proving it forever....it is not a temporary thing....it is a life long decision..... and as kishi said...in this decision lies the fate of the ninja world......and as a second point....for someone who has sage mode, a couple of punches will not harm at all (remember naruto falling during the training)....and this will make people perceive the problem of letting "the chain" spread.....

[N_SAGE]

Does this mean soon theres going tobe flashbacks of danzo losing his right eye and arm?

[chess4]

Nope.
Here's the "Lighting fangs" : http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_Fangs

And they can't be seen anywhere here :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

But I didn't expect it anyway, since this guy is fillers and never really existed to begin with. :tem

look at the swords in the link..................if u start from the right side the 1st sword looks like zabuza's sword and the 3rd sword looks kinda like kisame's sword, and if you count the number of swords there are 7 of them

[Belisar]

Naruto, get out of his manga, you don't deserve it...

"Please, don't beat up Sasuke, punch me instead, I'll be like a punching bag"..

C'mon, this is the most retarded, stupid and nonsense statement i've heard in my whole life...

Grow up, kid, grow up and give up of the stupid dreams and all these nonsense.

Even After everything he's passed, Naruto is just a childish person.. I'm done for with his character, let's just see the appearance of the kages. This is way better then Naruto character.
the question is: why does kishi hate him?

he has probably some bad time in real life and he takes it out on naruto. like: "i didn't have sex for the last four month because i always work on your manga..... and one thing: sasuke doesn't love you, stupid virgin."

[Schabrak]

not to instigate:

both fought to be hokage
both wanted uchihas dead
both were involved with nagato's history
What about the fact that Danzou was a kid, when Madara was a adult already. Him also being able to control a body or create such allusion? An allusion, that can't be an allusion, cause we have seen him fight, being in danger and etc.

[THM Nindo]

look at the swords in the link..................if u start from the right side the 1st sword looks like zabuza's sword and the 3rd sword looks kinda like kisame's sword, and if you count the number of swords there are 7 of them

I know, man :tem
That's why I put this link.

The guy was asking about the Lightning Fang (Raiga's weapons).
I was just saying that Raiga's weapon were not there, and that it was normal since he's a filler character. :tem
[hr]

I don't see any of the current swords in here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/).

Look from the right,

1st. Zabuza's sword.
3rd. Samehada

[Belisar]

And with a 3rd sword, we might be able to verify the theory that the 7 swords of the Swordsmen are the swords seen in that panel :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/

So far, I can see Samehada and Zabuza's sword.
Let's see which one of them will the be the third's sword. :tem
i don't see neither samehada nor zabuza's sword (i think suigetsu called it beheader or something like that, when he interrogated kakuzu's men). look closely.

zabuza's sword has a half circle on the lower half and samehada is much bigger and has a different hilt. besides samehada has no cutting edge but many rasp on it.

http://de.narutopedia.eu/images/thumb/3/34/KisameSchwert.jpg/250px-KisameSchwert.jpg
http://z.hubpages.com/u/318944_f260.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h12/ThoraxeRMG/The%20Seven%20Swordsmen%20of%20the%20Mist/18.jpg

[sarutobi_sensei]

look at the swords in the link..................if u start from the right side the 1st sword looks like zabuza's sword and the 3rd sword looks kinda like kisame's sword, and if you count the number of swords there are 7 of them
I only count 6 swords, unless ur counting the shuriken?

[bean]

What about the fact that Danzou was a kid, when Madara was a adult already. Him also being able to control a body or create such allusion? An allusion, that can't be an allusion, cause we have seen him fight, being in danger and etc.
how is that a fact if we never saw danzou as a kid...? and I don't get what you're talking about in the second half...

[THM Nindo]

i don't see neither samehada nor zabuza's sword (i think suigetsu called it beheader or something like that, when he interrogated kakuzu's men). look closely.

Man... look at the 1st and 3rd weapon from the right.
If you have something to say about them not being the weapons, just say it.
[hr]

I only count 6 swords, unless ur counting the shuriken?

Yeah, the shuriken is one of the sword too.

Actually, I just noticed that if we count the Shuriken, there's a 8th sword.
Look on the other side of the scroll...

You can see another one! :tem

[bean]

I only count 6 swords, unless ur counting the shuriken?bad scanlation, but if you look at the raw you can clearly see 7


i don't see neither samehada nor zabuza's sword (i think suigetsu called it beheader or something like that, when he interrogated kakuzu's men). look closely.

the swords may have gone through transformations over the years to suit different users (zabuza's sword looks different in part 1 to part 2...) but there are two swords that kinda resemble teh two swords we have seen.

[adel123456789]

im gonna make that scene of naruto getting his ass kicked as a sig of mine were its like:
naruto: ill never tell you.
cloud ninja (posebly karui): were is it, its a matter of life or death.
naruto: it was blown up..........
cloud ninja: we know you have the last cup of it tell us.
naruto: you will never have the last cup of ramen.
cloud ninja: *bitch slaps naruto.

[sarutobi_sensei]

Nope.
Gaara is one year younger than Naruto.


I know, man :tem
That's why I put this link.

The guy was asking about the Lightning Fang (Raiga's weapons).
I was just saying that Raiga's weapon were not there, and that it was normal since he's a filler character. :tem



Look from the right,

1st. Zabuza's sword.
3rd. Samehada

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/081/1/0/Zabuza__s_Sword_by_JoeCoool.jpg

Unless Zabuza's sword was a different sword like it shattered and another one was created, the one in the image really doesn't look like Kubikiri Hõuchõ.

But Samehada's the same sword.
http://www.freewebs.com/tcan/Samehada4%20small2.jpg

[adel123456789]

I know, man :tem
That's why I put this link.

The guy was asking about the Lightning Fang (Raiga's weapons).
I was just saying that Raiga's weapon were not there, and that it was normal since he's a filler character. :tem
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Look from the right,

1st. Zabuza's sword.
3rd. Samehada

it is big as zabuzas but the shape is deffrent.
that sword's handl is too big to be the samehada, and it doesnt hae the fish thingies on it

[zerocooldx]

I know, man :tem
That's why I put this link.

The guy was asking about the Lightning Fang (Raiga's weapons).
I was just saying that Raiga's weapon were not there, and that it was normal since he's a filler character. :tem
<hr noshade size="1">


Look from the right,

1st. Zabuza's sword.
3rd. Samehada

Number one is not Zabuza's sword, just look here (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Taezh4ULlfw/SQRWKEZC5rI/AAAAAAAAAWA/qqCnnjPm7eA/s400/Momochi+Zabuza-sword.JPG) and you'll see the differences in the handle placement and blades arc. Plus the third sword looks nothing like this (http://z.hubpages.com/u/318944_f260.jpg) or this (http://shannaro.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samehada.jpg) espeically since the handle is way shorter than Kisame's sword and the two sword shapes are completely different. Its a "nice" theory but it really makes no sense, at least if you want to back it up with some proof.

EDIT LMAO the other dude beat me to it. lolz

[pops]

Kishi confirmed it, Tobi is Madara...there's no way around that...

yeah i brought this up yesterday, but people for the most part ignored it. I'm not to certain that tobi is madara. the thing that i find odd is that prior to the talk tobi had with pain and konan in which he refered to himself as madara kishi always called him tobi. then after that the had characters refer to him as tobi was refer to as madara. he even had kisame state that madara was the person pretending to be the character tobi.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/02/

after this he is refer to as madara. yet last chapter he is called tobi again

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/01/

it probably means nothing, but why would kishi flip flop back to calling him Tobi after it had been confirmed that he is actually Madara?

[THM Nindo]

it is big as zabuzas but the shape is deffrent.
that sword's handl is too big to be the samehada, and it doesnt hae the fish thingies on it

I think they are too similar to just be a coincidence.
This fight happen a looong time ago.

The sword could have changed since then.
I guess we will have a better idea once we see the sword of the Third Swordman.

If it looks like one of those sword, it's settled.

[adel123456789]

I pray to kishi-kami she is not another big boobed useless woman.

what is it with pate and wanting everyone dead, first Kakashi, now Naruto?

Naruto is trying to be the light (not Yagami Light) of his world, and it seems he like taking the blame for everyone else. Especially his best friends, no need to wish him dead for that. He is maturing to be a global saint.

Besides it won't be long before Omoi and Kamui are part of his church.


on another note, is the other swordsman of mist blue skinned? or that privilege is only Kisame's?

even though i think naruto is stuped but i knda like but hate because eventhough it makes naruto look like a bada ass and sasuke even more like sisy, i dont want to see the fanart of the fangirls were they put naruto in bondeg because he is tortered :s

[pops]

well...let's see...jiraiya suspected him to be alive and coupled with minato's info, tobi being madara is confirmed. Pein called him madara. Itachi implanted a trap to spring at the sight of his (madara's) sharingan, and it sprung when tobi showed his face...confirms tobi is madara. Kisame saw his face and referred to him as madara, confirms tobi being madara...so...when has there been any doubt cast on tobi being madara?

there hasn't been. by why use both names to refer to the same person after it has been confirmed that Tobi is actually Madara? That just doesn't make any sense.

[Belisar]

Man... look at the 1st and 3rd weapon from the right.
If you have something to say about them not being the weapons, just say it.
that are not the same swords. look at my pic in the post above.



the swords may have gone through transformations over the years to suit different users (zabuza's sword looks different in part 1 to part 2...) but there are two swords that kinda resemble teh two swords we have seen.
oh common. i can pull n-stories about possible swords of the 7 mist swordsmen. oro's kusanagi, sasuke's kusanagi, white fangs short sword, asuma's wind knuckles and so on.

[sindergi]

there hasn't been. by why use both names to refer to the same person after it has been confirmed that Tobi is actually Madara? That just doesn't make any sense.

Maybe he is schizophrenic - i mean madara/tobi not Kishi :tem

[bean]

yeah i brought this up yesterday, but people for the most part ignored it. I'm not to certain that tobi is madara. the thing that i find odd is that prior to the talk tobi had with pain and konan in which he refered to himself as madara kishi always called him tobi. then after that the had characters refer to him as tobi was refer to as madara. he even had kisame state that madara was the person pretending to be the character tobi.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/02/

after this he is refer to as madara. yet last chapter he is called tobi again

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/01/

it probably means nothing, but why would kishi flip flop back to calling him Tobi after it had been confirmed that he is actually Madara?
I wouldnt focus too much on who is calling him what.

[stepsa]

yeah i brought this up yesterday, but people for the most part ignored it. I'm not to certain that tobi is madara. the thing that i find odd is that prior to the talk tobi had with pain and konan in which he refered to himself as madara kishi always called him tobi. then after that the had characters refer to him as tobi was refer to as madara. he even had kisame state that madara was the person pretending to be the character tobi.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/02/

after this he is refer to as madara. yet last chapter he is called tobi again

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/01/

it probably means nothing, but why would kishi flip flop back to calling him Tobi after it had been confirmed that he is actually Madara?

because Tobi is a good boy :p

[pops]

bad scanlation, but if you look at the raw you can clearly see 7



the swords may have gone through transformations over the years to suit different users (zabuza's sword looks different in part 1 to part 2...) but there are two swords that kinda resemble teh two swords we have seen.

Is that actually true about the sword changing?

by the way does anyone know how you bold something you are quoting?

[sarutobi_sensei]

Man... look at the 1st and 3rd weapon from the right.
If you have something to say about them not being the weapons, just say it.



Yeah, the shuriken is one of the sword too.

Actually, I just noticed that if we count the Shuriken, there's a 8th sword.
Look on the other side of the scroll...

You can see another one! :tem

Oh yeah, between the Kyubii's tale and the scroll.


bad scanlation, but if you look at the raw you can clearly see 7



the swords may have gone through transformations over the years to suit different users (zabuza's sword looks different in part 1 to part 2...) but there are two swords that kinda resemble teh two swords we have seen.
Yes true, but I don't find Kubikiri Houcho that different from part 1.

Here's part 2http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/572/23001-suigetsu_super_strenght_super.jpg

Yes it looks a little bit older but it was on the wind, water, sun for like 3 years.

[bean]

there hasn't been. by why use both names to refer to the same person after it has been confirmed that Tobi is actually Madara? That just doesn't make any sense.
why would that matter? its just a name...and maybe taka doesnt know that he is madara, so they use the tobi name...

that are not the same swords. look at my pic in the post above.


oh common. i can pull n-stories about possible swords of the 7 mist swordsmen. oro's kusanagi, sasuke's kusanagi, white fangs short sword, asuma's wind knuckles and so on.
I am just saying, they look similar, and that zabuzas sword has changed over time...that is all.

[jdw]

-_-; @ Naruto potentially taking a preemptive beatdown to keep Sasuke from being killed and perpetuating the chain of hate.

http://snapcdn.zoovy.lg1.simplecdn.net/img/gkworld/W225-H225-Bffffff/T/im2087.gif

[zerocooldx]

Is that actually true about the sword changing?

Swords don't really change, what you make is what you get, they don't evolve. lolz