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cassaruby
July 04, 2009, 04:17 PM
Who's scenes do you look forward to?

I hope Nishi and Takeshi are involved in something memorable.

xInCasinoOutx
July 04, 2009, 10:18 PM
Nishi is my top pick.
I think he's under-estimating Katastrophe.

Mr.Aaron
July 04, 2009, 10:49 PM
Nishi. XD

DawgX
July 05, 2009, 09:10 PM
Definitely Takeshi.
And then Cherry.

Mr.Aaron
July 05, 2009, 09:54 PM
Also Katou. Ever since Kurono got resed, he has been even more minor then before the bhudda mission. :/

D.Blue
July 06, 2009, 06:46 AM
Kaze because he kicks some serious asses.
Nerdo because I want to see if he developed since the Osaka mission. Seeing him fighting hard would be a cool paradox to his ordinary look/ personality.

Somnus
July 06, 2009, 10:13 AM
Kurono clone ( since the original is a "development dead-end" ) and Reika , we need more development in this new pairing.
Nishi
Host Samurai, we need more vampire highlights
And Kuwabara, Gantz is lacking alien-rape.

A_N_G_E_L
July 06, 2009, 04:00 PM
Also Katou. Ever since Kurono got resed, he has been even more minor then before the bhudda mission. :/

I agree! I was hoping he has more time to be the main character in Gantz and hoping to know more about him, Nishi and the other characters. Kurono came back too early and it got worse since his clone appeared!:darn
It's also sad that even Cherry had more off-room story than Katou and Nishi!:notrust

It also makes me mad that Oku wasted 90% of the final chapters before the Katastrophe on Kurono - a character that is already developed!
There are so many questions still open and the readers would be closer to each character so more they know about them and their feelings.
Now when they die we don't really care for them because we don't know much about them(they are like random characters) but we know everything about Kurono.:/

I know lots of people find it boring having Katou as a main character in Gantz, but it depends what Oku makes out of it!
Katou is my favourite character but I enjoyed the missions with just Kurono a lot because they were written so well!:)
And Katou is a character you can still do a lot with, for example; he also can go through really hard missions and maybe can become cold and get more cruel, it would be a cool twist if he gets also more selfish and someone else would end up reviving Kurono and because of Kurono he would go back to (almost) normal.:amuse

Hollow Kurono
July 07, 2009, 04:18 AM
I voted for Kuronos clone,I want to see what he'll do,will he go help Kei with Tae or will he stay with Reika :p tho I think all the Gantzers should meet and fight alongside each other,but both Kurono's will go help Tae,Im sure of that.



I agree! I was hoping he has more time to be the main character in Gantz and hoping to know more about him, Nishi and the other characters. Kurono came back too early and it got worse since his clone appeared!:darn
It's also sad that even Cherry had more off-room story than Katou and Nishi!:notrust

It also makes me mad that Oku wasted 90% of the final chapters before the Katastrophe on Kurono - a character that is already developed!
There are so many questions still open and the readers would be closer to each character so more they know about them and their feelings.
Now when they die we don't really care for them because we don't know much about them(they are like random characters) but we know everything about Kurono.:/

I know lots of people find it boring having Katou as a main character in Gantz, but it depends what Oku makes out of it!
Katou is my favourite character but I enjoyed the missions with just Kurono a lot because they were written so well!:)
And Katou is a character you can still do a lot with, for example; he also can go through really hard missions and maybe can become cold and get more cruel, it would be a cool twist if he gets also more selfish and someone else would end up reviving Kurono and because of Kurono he would go back to (almost) normal.:amuse


Well no matter what Katou wont become what Kei became in the budah mission,he is to much of a good guy,he always puts others before himself,I just dont see him becoming cruel,he may become more aggressive,I think he will and he must do that,cause he loves his brother to much and he wants to come back to him and I just dont see Katou being cruel and selfish.And I like Katou to,hes awesome,he gets women without even trying to get them :/ and I agree he doesnt get the appreciation that he deserves.And Kurono wasnt revived way to fast,the guy in the Gantz time he was out for a mission,but in our time,a year or something,Im not really sure.

GAT-X252
July 07, 2009, 10:00 AM
And Kuwabara, Gantz is lacking alien-rape.

THIS.

I have been waiting for Kuwabara's glorious return for a long time.

I don't see the big deal with the second Kurono, this disaster involves all the Gantz members, i don't see anyone running away from it, and this includes the second Kurono. He will act like the first Kurono, but with Reika at his side all the time.

Well i don't find the Kurono duo interesting, but i would like to see a situation were the second Kurono has to choose between Reika or Tae in order to keep one of them alive.

Mr.Aaron
July 07, 2009, 11:39 AM
Hahaha. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Osaka didn't return...

I hope they do, with Knob-yan, Kuwa, George (who was awesome), Kyou (who was also awesome), and Oka (to answer questions).

Amnesiac
July 08, 2009, 09:30 PM
I hope they do, with Knob-yan, Kuwa, George (who was awesome), Kyou (who was also awesome), and Oka (to answer questions).

Excepting the awesome guy who probably will be seen raping actual human females during Katastrophe, they're all dead. Also Anzu.

Mr.Aaron
July 08, 2009, 11:57 PM
I thought Knob was still alive?

El Samurai Guapo
July 09, 2009, 01:51 AM
Excepting the awesome guy who probably will be seen raping actual human females during Katastrophe, they're all dead. Also Anzu.

What are you talking about, assuming there will be many aliens running around during katastrophe, it will be them that will become Kuwabara's rape victims. He mentioned while he was raping the long necked alien girl that he enjoyed them even better than ordinary women...so...yeah, if you're an alien and you look even remotely female, beware!!

njt
July 09, 2009, 02:40 AM
Anzu needs more love ;.;

Xqtr.
July 09, 2009, 03:06 AM
Kuwabara is going to revive Nuri, since he is lacking someone (or something) really good to have fun with xD
and I also want to see something more of Kato and HS... it's really a shame that they are getting less and less screen-time

A_N_G_E_L
July 09, 2009, 07:13 PM
Well no matter what Katou wont become what Kei became in the budah mission,he is to much of a good guy,he always puts others before himself,I just dont see him becoming cruel,he may become more aggressive,I think he will and he must do that,cause he loves his brother to much and he wants to come back to him and I just dont see Katou being cruel and selfish.And I like Katou to,hes awesome,he gets women without even trying to get them :/ and I agree he doesnt get the appreciation that he deserves.And Kurono wasnt revived way to fast,the guy in the Gantz time he was out for a mission,but in our time,a year or something,Im not really sure.


I agree he wouldn't be like Kei because he is Katou:p, every character has his own unique personality. But I think Katou can become cold-hearted.
And again it depends how Oku writes it.;)
And Katou has a dark site and when he shows it - it seems he is a different person and it's already mentioned that he used to be rough, even the bullies at his school are afraid of him.

And you have to think about that; Katou didn't had enough time to develop like Kurono. I'm sure that Katou can become cold when he would have to go on really crazy missions like the Chibi-aliens or the Tae-mission(maybe with his little brother as target)and constantly seeing people get killed. I think the death of his brother would be the main reason why he could become cold or evil.
Look at the Nuri-mission, he promised with his whole heart to bring back Kurono, after Nuri was killed he was about setting himself free.

Imagine him but with an mean, cold-hearted personality and maybe with the joy to kill something, he would be one of the strongest Gantzer!:p
But I'm glad his personality is different from his look.:amuse

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I was hoping to see the Osaka-team too, especially since the Katastrophe comes up. It would be good when Tokyo and Osaka would do a meeting and exchange their experiences and could develop some plan.

Hollow Kurono
July 10, 2009, 03:26 AM
I agree he wouldn't be like Kei because he is Katou:p, every character has his own unique personality. But I think Katou can become cold-hearted.
And again it depends how Oku writes it.;)
And Katou has a dark site and when he shows it - it seems he is a different person and it's already mentioned that he used to be rough, even the bullies at his school are afraid of him.

And you have to think about that; Katou didn't had enough time to develop like Kurono. I'm sure that Katou can become cold when he would have to go on really crazy missions like the Chibi-aliens or the Tae-mission(maybe with his little brother as target)and constantly seeing people get killed. I think the death of his brother would be the main reason why he could become cold or evil.
Look at the Nuri-mission, he promised with his whole heart to bring back Kurono, after Nuri was killed he was about setting himself free.

Imagine him but with an mean, cold-hearted personality and maybe with the joy to kill something, he would be one of the strongest Gantzer!:p
But I'm glad his personality is different from his look.:amuse

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I was hoping to see the Osaka-team too, especially since the Katastrophe comes up. It would be good when Tokyo and Osaka would do a meeting and exchange their experiences and could develop some plan.



Well he got scared that time at school it was either them or a pipe in his ass :)


Well Katou cannot develop into something like that,hes father was a fire fighter and he probably was very nice and generous and when he died and he became just like him,not like Kuronos parents,they died it should have changed him,but it didnt,Katou will stay as a good guy :) he is a hero after all.


I dont need to imagine,I look at Izumi and I get my result all the time :) and Katou is still one of the strongest Gantzers.


Knowing Osaka,they will start hating on Tokyo,they will be gelous of Tokyo for what they have done in their city and defeating the main boss and all that,they are assholes "Teamwork is for pussys" that their moto,they will not co-exist,Osaka wont even consider Tokyo.Wonder if Nerdo is still alive.

Black Lagoon
July 11, 2009, 04:44 AM
Definitely Nishi

102jayday
July 11, 2009, 10:46 AM
I agree he wouldn't be like Kei because he is Katou:p, every character has his own unique personality. But I think Katou can become cold-hearted.
And again it depends how Oku writes it.;)
And Katou has a dark site and when he shows it - it seems he is a different person and it's already mentioned that he used to be rough, even the bullies at his school are afraid of him.

And you have to think about that; Katou didn't had enough time to develop like Kurono. I'm sure that Katou can become cold when he would have to go on really crazy missions like the Chibi-aliens or the Tae-mission(maybe with his little brother as target)and constantly seeing people get killed. I think the death of his brother would be the main reason why he could become cold or evil.
Look at the Nuri-mission, he promised with his whole heart to bring back Kurono, after Nuri was killed he was about setting himself free.

Imagine him but with an mean, cold-hearted personality and maybe with the joy to kill something, he would be one of the strongest Gantzer!:p
But I'm glad his personality is different from his look.:amuse

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I was hoping to see the Osaka-team too, especially since the Katastrophe comes up. It would be good when Tokyo and Osaka would do a meeting and exchange their experiences and could develop some plan.



image kato being mean......one thought comes to mind....izumi.
kurono did mention to himself that izumi reminded him of kato of how pop and tall he was lol

well maybe during their solo fights in the katastrophe we may get flashbacks! like um on ....naturo when it was naturo vs sauske and they then had like 3 damn episodes on about sauskes emo childhood lol

I would like to see anzu because i support the katoxanzu 100%

A_N_G_E_L
July 12, 2009, 06:00 PM
Well he got scared that time at school it was either them or a pipe in his ass :)

Because he had to fight against someone in a higher class and someone he probably didn't know + that guy was a professional boxer.
But Katou showed us who's the man!:)



Well Katou cannot develop into something like that,hes father was a fire fighter and he probably was very nice and generous and when he died and he became just like him,not like Kuronos parents,they died it should have changed him,but it didnt,Katou will stay as a good guy :) he is a hero after all.

That doesn't mean anything, his dad could have been the Pope and he still could be an asshole. I guess Izumi's parents were nice and he still turned out to be mean.;)



Knowing Osaka,they will start hating on Tokyo,they will be gelous of Tokyo for what they have done in their city and defeating the main boss and all that,they are assholes "Teamwork is for pussys" that their moto,they will not co-exist,Osaka wont even consider Tokyo.Wonder if Nerdo is still alive.

I thought that Katou, Anzu and the rest of the Tokyo-team showed them that team-work is good?
I hope Nerdo is still alive! He was awesome, I loved his face-expressions!:D



image kato being mean......one thought comes to mind....izumi.
kurono did mention to himself that izumi reminded him of kato of how pop and tall he was lol

well maybe during their solo fights in the katastrophe we may get flashbacks! like um on ....naturo when it was naturo vs sauske and they then had like 3 damn episodes on about sauskes emo childhood lol

I would like to see anzu because i support the katoxanzu 100%

Izumi is not necessarily evil, he appeared bored to me. Because he was the best in school, got all the girls and probably had parents that spoiled him he became bored in life, he needed a "kick", some excitement, he wanted to know how good he is.

I think Katou is stronger but Izumi is smarter, it would be interesting to see a fight between them.:)

I don't really want flash-backs, it just slows the story down. A flash-back as a manga itself is okay. I hope to see lots of badass-moments!:)

I was hoping that George's theory becomes true and Anzu would visit Katou, or Katou is looking for Anzu's son(and want's to revive her later), but he met Kishimoto instead...

102jayday
July 12, 2009, 06:42 PM
kato did know the bully was a pro boxer who wanted his ass, thats why he was freaking. he showed us how strong he is and psycho lol kishimoto see that side then lets see if shes like kato this kato that.
hmm i think izumi would win no contest. kurono has always been a level ahead of kato and izumi was prob on the same level as kurono.

yeh but to just kill 200 people just for the kick of it is a little ahhh lol

Mr.Aaron
July 12, 2009, 08:37 PM
Does't it go in terms of brute strength...

Kaze>Izumi>Katou>Kurono?

This being in terms of brute strength.

GAT-X252
July 13, 2009, 10:55 AM
Yeah, in terms of brute strenght, there is even a ranking on the manual.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/10321/151?t=1247500272

lol kurono...

Kato and Izumi are on the same place, but Izumi seems to have better stats.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/10321/111

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/10321/129

I think Izumi would defeat Kato in a fight.

digitaldude
July 13, 2009, 11:11 AM
Wow, izumi`s stats are literally all filled up, and how come no one ever translated the manual, This is getting me worried about the gantz novel.

I want to see if nerdo morphed into a bad ass and whether he revived anzu, I also want to see cherry do something, since his been very useless lately.

Hollow Kurono
July 13, 2009, 11:42 AM
Its obvious that Izumi would beat Katou up in a fight,with both of them wearing the suit or not,Izumi would probably beat Kei aswell.But god damn,Katou tied for the 3rd place :D he should become a professional boxer,if he will survive the katastrophe.Im not even surpirsed that Kei is not in the top 10.

And if there was a top 10 in terms of all around fighting,Sei would be the 2nd place for sure,man Kei sure is dumb,if I ever got myself a girl like that,Id be all over her,shit she would probably knock my ass off for beeing to annoying to her.

teh100pointer
July 13, 2009, 11:58 AM
lol nishi 45% :P
somebody should translate the whole gantz manual

Mr.Aaron
July 13, 2009, 03:15 PM
I might be willing to typeset if someone will translate...

That depends if I get PS soon...

Angel Gally
July 16, 2009, 01:45 AM
Wow, izumi`s stats are literally all filled up, and how come no one ever translated the manual, This is getting me worried about the gantz novel.

I want to see if nerdo morphed into a bad ass and whether he revived anzu, I also want to see cherry do something, since his been very useless lately.

The manual was translated by the French Gantz manga publisher ( I own a copy!!). I guess I have hope they will translate the novel too then? :D

Revilenigma
July 16, 2009, 04:51 PM
I thought Knob was still alive?

It's never really been confirmed if he's alive or not, in one panel Anzu says he's dead and in another one of the osaka girls check his pulse and claim he's still alive but we don't see him after that, and there's the possibility that if he did die, he could have been revived by his teammate right after the mission or after the Italy mission.
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The manual was translated by the French Gantz manga publisher ( I own a copy!!).

I want!!!

Mr.Aaron
July 16, 2009, 05:16 PM
Angel Gally View Post
The manual was translated by the French Gantz manga publisher ( I own a copy!!).
Would I be a complete asshole if I asked you to scan it? xD

Sorry if I am being at all rude... >_>;

Revilenigma
July 16, 2009, 05:26 PM
Would I be a complete asshole if I asked you to scan it? xD

Sorry if I am being at all rude... >_>;

I second that!

BrazilianGantzer
July 26, 2009, 11:13 AM
I thought Knob was still alive?

Yeah, we don't know if he's still alive. Last time we saw him he was barely alive, but in the time it took to bring down Nuri, he could have succumbed to his wounds and died.

I voted for Anzu. I got so saddened when she died to save Katou. I sincerely hope they end up together...to be honest it's the only real romance I care about in this manga; except for Cherry with his girlfriend too.

Xqtr.
July 26, 2009, 01:59 PM
Yeah, we don't know if he's still alive. Last time we saw him he was barely alive, but in the time it took to bring down Nuri, he could have succumbed to his wounds and died.

I think he still wanted to fuck the Osaka chick when they were surprised about Katou's epic ownage :D
and yeah, I want to see more of him, too - or more what he's going to rape xD

BrazilianGantzer
July 28, 2009, 10:43 PM
Anzu needs more love ;.;

Yes, you're right. The romantic in me would love to see Katou ending up with Anzu...or in fact Katou ending up with any girl...actually, just a girl that loves Katou staying alive would satisfy me a bit! hahaha:facepalm
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I think he still wanted to fxxx the Osaka chick when they were surprised about Katou's epic ownage :D
and yeah, I want to see more of him, too - or more what he's going to rape xD

Er...I was actually referring to Knob from the Osaka team not Kuwabara.

Kuwabara = Rapist

Knob = guy who thinks he's the leader and is crushed to death (or almost so) by the Tengu alien.

Xqtr.
July 29, 2009, 08:20 PM
Er...I was actually referring to Knob from the Osaka team not Kuwabara.

Kuwabara = Rapist

Knob = guy who thinks he's the leader and is crushed to death (or almost so) by the Tengu alien.

my bad...
guess I'm not too good with remembering names of characters in this manga when they die so fast after their first appearance :P
and about Knob, they said that he still got a faint pulse, but I also think that he didn't survive this... and I dunno if it would be interesting to see him alive @ Katastrophe... I can't imagine that Oku would give him a big role in it - unfortunately same goes for the other survivors of the Osakan team...

BrazilianGantzer
July 29, 2009, 11:20 PM
my bad...
... and I dunno if it would be interesting to see him alive @ Katastrophe... I can't imagine that Oku would give him a big role in it - unfortunately same goes for the other survivors of the Osakan team...

Well yeah...knowing Oku, he probably won't bring the Osaka team back. He might (and I hope so) bring some of them back. I'd like to see Anzu again after being revived by Nerdo. I doubt that Oka will come back. Similar to Izumi, I think his role in the story is over. I'm sure many people will agree with me when I say that his point in the story had three objectives:

1) to show that the Osaka team was more ├╝ber than we had previously imagined

2) Nobody, not even Oku is safe from certain aliens.

3) There are more rewards than we have seen before

Xqtr.
July 30, 2009, 07:46 AM
and 4) that teamwork is an essential part of the survival in Gantz ;)


2) Nobody, not even Oku is safe from certain aliens.

I hope Oku is safe from aliens, because otherwise he won't be able to finish Gantz - and that would really be a Katastrophe :p

BrazilianGantzer
July 31, 2009, 08:39 AM
I hope Oku is safe from aliens, because otherwise he won't be able to finish Gantz - and that would really be a Katastrophe :p

Oh, whoops...my bad. I mean "not even Oka is safe..."

georgemarvin
August 05, 2009, 01:19 PM
@BrazilianGantzer: You're not the first to make that typo. I got roasted for it a few months back. :)
I would like to see:
Nishi and his two H-guns in action. He shows just how truly vicious he can be, when he kills aliens and Gantzers alike.
Kuwabara the rapist gets raped.
Kei clone has to choose between Reika and Tae. Reika survives and Tae dies anyway, but she's devastated because he would have chosen Tae.
Katou dies heroically for a freshly revived Anzu, who vows to bring him back.
Kaze meets a glorious end in an epic battle.
Cherry, Takeshi, etc. die off-screen.
Katastrophe ends with Nishi, Kei and Reika as the survivors. Gantz removes the option of reviving people, and puts the bombs back in their heads. Then the vampires show up, led by HS. Kei and HS kill each other in a final battle. A heartbroken Reika has her memories erased and leaves Gantz, leaving Nishi alone to continue. The end.

BrazilianGantzer
August 05, 2009, 01:33 PM
Well he's my summary of what I hope will happen in Katastrophe:


Return of the Osaka team. (at least some of them)
Kei2 letting Reika die / leaving her lying when she is wounded.
Takeshi and Kaze dying 0ff-screen (I probably would be really saddened to see them die)
More of Sebastian.
Finding out what is going on with Gantz and where he is going.
Katou surviving and ending up with Anzu.
Cherry surviving and ending up with his girlfriend.
Kei1 surviving and ending up with Tae.
Nishi staying in Gantz after Katastrophe is over.
No return of Izumi...as I've stated many times before, I think his part in the story is over.


Yes...I would like a happy ending to Gantz. Not something like Doubt where we had a great story for a long time just for some sudden, crappy ending.

Oh and I loved George's mention of Kazuo Kuwabara getting raped! It would be so funny to see him surrounded by a bunch of aliens that have a fetish for human males! hahahha!

cassaruby
August 05, 2009, 09:25 PM
Kaze & Nishi dying near each other
Takeshi alive.
Katou getting with Kishimoto.
Cherry finding a purpose, he seems pretty doomed.
HS dying at the hands of Gantzers.
Kurono dying because of Nishi.

I hope everything goes into a graveyard spiral and only Katou and Takeshi make it.