Fairy Tail Vol. 18 (Chap. 144-152) Discussions [Archive] - Page 2

hongoasdf

August 18, 2009, 01:40 AM

I wonder why Blaine has a grudge against Cait Shelter... thats the guild we know the least about, the only memeber from there introduced so far is Wendy. Maybe it has something to do with him knowing Wendy.

In Wendy's memory It was near Cait Shelter that Gerard sensed Anima. I wonder if it will show up sooner or later in this arc. Gerard might have a bigger rule in this arc if so...

You summarized my thoughts about this chapter in those two little paragraphs.

I doubt Brain chose his targets at random, or by distance. And, as you said, since he knew of Wendy, he most definitely knows a thing or two about her guild.

The thing about "Anima" and Gerard/Mistgun also came to mind... but knowings so little of it, we can't speculate much. Still, as you said, Gerard may have a bigger role in this arc than just "reedeming" himself and activating Nirvana.

One more thing. I read somewhere else that by the end of this arc, it's quite probable that Cait Shelter is destroyed, and Wendy and Charle join Fairy Tail. Oh yes, very Mashima-esque, indeed.

Still, as cliché and predictable as it may be, it wouldn't be that bad. I mean, it would certainly mean plot advance, since now 3 Dragonslayers would be members of the same guild. And we would have some comical moments, too. If two Dragonslayers were funny (And powerful), Imagine three.

LoS

August 18, 2009, 01:44 AM

If two Dragonslayers were funny (And powerful), Imagine three.

well we saw 3 already fighting together/against one another, not technically, but they all 3 could use dragon slayer magic.

deffkryz

August 18, 2009, 03:13 AM

One more thing. I read somewhere else that by the end of this arc, it's quite probable that Cait Shelter is destroyed.

If not by Nirvana solely, there'd be still that reckless strongest team of FT, wouldn't it? ;)

But, as I'd love to see how Gajeel would react on Wendy with a "wtfyouradragonslayergimmeabreak" face fault I don't think that Cait Shelter will go down that easy.

For Brain and his grudge against Cait Shelter: Wasn't he the one that recognized Wendy and knew what she was able to do? So I think, Cait Shelter is on his top priority list because they might know something about him - maybe a weakness?

cleodux

August 18, 2009, 04:54 AM

I think something to do with revenge, who knows. Cause Brain was part in research and develpment team right? (which team is that? anima? >.< it doesn't look like guild council team)

And if Brain knows Gerard (the one who taught him the spells) how old Gerard was? before ToP (it should be) since ater the rebellion by Erza event he stays at ToP.

Confuse as usual.

I forgot a moment there that Natsu's weakness with vehicle. If he intends to fight Cobra mid air, how long can Happy last with his transformation, this battle must done fast, unless Nirvana stop moving which is not happening anytime soon.

Oh and Cerberus looks somewhat bigger after his transformation... lol. And he got the same magic like Happy and Charle.

FluffBall

August 18, 2009, 05:06 AM

what if blaine was in cait shelter before and got kicked out of it or something maybe because of the anima thing

justf0rnow

August 18, 2009, 05:40 AM

WOHOO!!! gerard still alive and this time he won't die (again) unless he sacrifice his life when something bad happen to ezra (again?)!!! why im not surprised...
lol to ichiya... now he stucked up there and no one cares about him... unless that archive mage will find him...

my prediction :
#1. Midnight will find Ichiya and the archive mage and he/she (ok seriously, is midnight a guy or a girl ? of she-male =P ?)will knock them down, then he'll find Cherrie and Leon and again, knock them both down and he'll be joining the Nirvana in no time
#2. i would love to see round 2 for Angel VS. Lucy, but i think it'll happen when the rest of OS, Natsu, Erza, Gray, Gerard, Wendy and that bolt mage faint out, and the biatch appears and lucy will protect them all
#3. worst part, but i hope this won't happen. Blaine or Midnight launch a deadly magic towards Erza and he-who-we-all-hate-him (aka Gerard) sacrifice himself by guards Erza with his body and TADAA!!! he died for sure, but will resurrected again later by Mistgun or Wendy

ghostexiled

August 18, 2009, 01:56 PM

I don't think it is as simple as Blaine destroying Cait Shelter... I think it will be what Nirvana has been said to do, convert the light to dark.

Unlucky Boy

August 18, 2009, 02:42 PM

So now when Nirvana is moving, all of those who stayed behind probably wont be back to the fights. thats means Leon, Cherie, Hibiki, Ren and Eve are all out. thats leaves one mage of Lamia Scale (Jura), one mage of Blue Pegasus (Ichiya, which somehow got himself on the highest spot in Nirvana), one mage of Cait shelter (Wendy, well it was only her to begin with) and all of the Fairy Tail members! It seems like BP and LS had chosen their representives too lightly...

We didnt get to see if Midnight got on Nirvana or not, but I'm sure he did. Maybe Lucy and Gray will meet him on their way to the top, but sadly they got no chance against him at their current state.

When Nirvana reaches Cait Shelter and Braine does his thing, we might get to see angry Wendy using some uber sky magic!

I think Hoteye wont turn evil again. My theory is that in order to defeat Blaine all of the six prayers have got to die (the prayers, not the persons), making all 6 (4 at the moment) lines of Blaine's face disappear.
Hoteye's prayer is probably to find his lost brother. I think his prayer will die as he and Jura will beat together one of the bad guys and then he'll say Jura is like a brother to him and he doesnt have to look for his younger brother which he knew was dead all along (or something like that...).

bittman

August 18, 2009, 10:09 PM

I don't know, Blaine never appears happy when he loses a line on his face. Most bad guys would be like "meh, one down oh well it happens" but he shakes a little each time as if in fear. Or at least fear was the impression I got. Perhaps he loses when all 6 lines vanish, but imo he'll lose and gain something (lose sanity / gain power).

I don't think Happy can fly that long, so battle should be interesting. Somehow I feel Natsu will be saved, but at the same time Cobra is a good enemy for Natsu given their silly faces.

Not too concerned about Cait Shelter. I think you've all predicted it quite well with Anima and Blaine's past. Only question I have is whether Blaine trained Gerard before or after he left Wendy alone.

And not sure why people keep ranting on about Lucy v Angel round 2. Stop trying to have Lucy become boring by already being the most powerful stellar spirit mage around. As it is she has the most keys, though Angel has enough to actually be a rival. It's too soon for Lucy to look too close to being Stellar Spirit Zodiac Master.

shadow0fsaints

August 20, 2009, 02:27 AM

kkck

August 21, 2009, 11:38 AM

Ok, this was an interesting chapter. I was surprised nirvana turned out to be such a monumental structure, I thought t was going to be something more compact like a magical computer or a football sized ball of light.... ths is way more interesting though.

I wonder ho long happy will last... I bet he is gonna get exhausted and someone will force nirvana to stp rght before cobra can deal the last hit. I do want to know who exactly is gonna end up defeating cobra though. The guy seems to be very versatile and his ability to hear other poeple´s thoughts is way to hax. Maybe gerard will be the one to take him out.

Also, it seems we got another prayer lol. Blaine´s prayer seems to be something like this: "To be the king of darkness"....

Kravmaga

August 21, 2009, 03:09 PM

erm... could hoteye's brother be ichiya? their faces are both screwed up...

The potential for comical awesomeness of such a turn of events is overloading my secret supercomputer even though it made short work of the last two presidential elections...

Ero-Sanji

August 22, 2009, 08:32 AM

erm... could hoteye's brother be ichiya? their faces are both screwed up...

You know, what!?

That would be amazing, I mean seriously they do look alike with their f*cked up faces and also their bodies are similar.

Unlucky Boy

August 22, 2009, 09:18 AM

I cant really think of those two as brothers... but on second thought I never had imagined MiraJane and Elfman could be brother and sister before it was revealed. (and like those two, Hoteye and Ichiya got the same hair color).
So who knows... They havent met yet and when Hibiki showed everyone the faces of the OS it was really Angel with them and not Ichiya.

Steco

August 24, 2009, 10:58 AM

149 raw out!

Here (http://mangahelpers.com/m/fairy-tail/chapters/149/) on Manga Helpers....

Chocolove77

August 24, 2009, 11:29 AM

After reading chapter 149:

ZOMG! This chapter look awesome! So many things are happening!
Cobra is a red-hair? Who could have predicted that! Awesome color page!
A little peek at Midnight's power! And Cobra show his true form: snakeman!
OMG Cobra says Dragon Slayer at the end! Cobra's a Dragon Slayer!!!!!!

Evil3ye

August 24, 2009, 11:38 AM

The colored page is amazing :o
Also I agree with ^you, it seems to be an interesting chapter full of events :)

deffkryz

August 24, 2009, 12:06 PM

After reading chapter 149:
Cobra is a red-hair? Who could have predicted that! Awesome color page!

Erm... Cobra having red hair is no spoiler - he was already shown that way back in chapter 141. So predicting that hair color for the current chapter is not that much of a hit. :P

Chocolove77

August 24, 2009, 01:27 PM

Didn't notice that.
Anyway, Cobra says doku ryu no cobra. dokueki means poison, toxic. Meaning Cobra would be the dragon slayer of poison/venom?

Steco

August 24, 2009, 01:45 PM

Comments of chapter 149:

First, Mashima always making good choice of colored pages, indeed very beautiful pages.

Natsu and Cobra so far an awesome fight, going to get better now that we can see Cobra's powers, since it was the last one to be shown, before he only punched people around, not a single magic. Okay, hope he isn't just another fake one like Luxus:facepalm

Hoteye vs Midnight, doesn't look to be a very long fight, I think Midnight is going to OWN Hoteye, he looks like to have a cutting power( I was hoping to be a Dark Flame *_*), wich Hoteye does not have defense against. My guess is that this fight will end just like Kana vs Fried, tears and a good fight starting right after( never liked Hoteye).

My predictions for the future:

Natsu is going to loose after Happy's wings vanish, Wendy will rescue Ichiya, he is going to use a perfume that will take his sickness away, Wendy will heal Natsu, he is going to kick some ass.
Midnight owns the four good guys, Blaine vs Natsu and Erza and Gerard vs Midnight.

OBS1 : Did anyone notice that when the OS first appeared, their shadows were of Mashima's sketches? Racer had bigger shoulders AND could turn into a car *_*
OBS2: How can a red Brain be gothic Midnight's father? There must be something really wrong.

Kravmaga

August 24, 2009, 05:24 PM

"I can hear your thoughts! You don't stand a chance!"
*Eats Natsu-punch in the face*
"Wait a second! This guy isn't thinking anything!?!"

Best WTF moment since hoteye turned good.

bittman

August 24, 2009, 06:00 PM

The joke thing made me laugh, I did like the entire heart hearing magic.

Anyway, a good chapter when compared to the recent ones with Cobra's true power coming out (Dragon Slayer? Couldn't have predicted that) and Midnight v Hoteye. I feel he must be disillusioned thinking he's an equal level to Midnight.

Biggest wtf moment was finding out Midnight is actually a girl and not a gender confused guy...ok not really...

Chocolove77

August 24, 2009, 06:32 PM

Wait, Midnight is a girl?

Chaos Shadow

August 24, 2009, 06:34 PM

Wait, Midnight is a girl?

in the chap they say Mid is a girll i dont know if its related to the translation or what.. lets wait for others scan team to take out the chap :amuse

imamess

August 24, 2009, 06:48 PM

I mentioned this at Fairy Law, and I think it's a mistranslation. Grey just says "Oracion Seis!" and Lucy (almost intentionally) avoids using a gendered pronoun. She says person (人) and a neutral form of parent and child (親子). Because when he's introduced fully, they specifically call him a guy, and here any gender is missing.

I'd wait for c-net's translation to see what's the case. Maybe the INP translator didn't read the previous chapter where they stated Midnight was a guy. Because makeup aside, he is definately lacking in the female regions, and you know how much Mashima likes to draw those.

Chocolove77

August 24, 2009, 07:12 PM

About Cobra being a dragonslayer: Could it be that Cuberios is not a snake with wings but an actual dragon?

Evil3ye

August 24, 2009, 07:14 PM

Midnight is a girl afterall? :o
It's always hard to tell the gender if the character is an emo :lmao but seems like girl = confirmed with this chapter.

Also it's interesting that all of them have real names as well, though I dislike Cobra being a dragon slayer. There are too many already -.-

kkck

August 24, 2009, 07:28 PM

Based on my biase, I do not think hoteye is as strong as midnight but that does not mean he will not be a match. I would actually be very surprised if he at least doesn't wound midnight a bit lol. I wonder what midnight's power is based on though.

I was kinda disappointed that cobra turned out to be a DS. I wonder if his good hearing capacity is due to his DS though. His poison DS powers go along with his snake thing but that does not mean his DS provided him with good ears considering he is supposed to take the form of a dragon not a snake. Also about that snake, what's up with it? It makes no sense whatsoever with cobra's DS power.... it is either some magical creature he domesticated or a stellar spirit IMO. If it turns out to be a stellar spirit, I though he could be either of this:

-Serpens "the Snake"
-Ophiuchus "the snake-holder "
- Hydra "the sea serpent"(female)
- Hydrus " the water snake"(male)

I would think the bolded option is the obvious one but it would be interesting if it turns out to be another. If cobra has got a snake stellar spirit and have it be that powerful, then maybe natsu can get draco and achieve a similar effect. Hope we see something like that in the future lol. Seeing how cobra is a DS, I wonder if he will turn out to be like gazille, a bad guy who turned good(this is kinda questionable though, I would not be surprised if gazille is a triple agent lol). Another thing which surprises me is the name of the snake, cuberios. It intrigued me because it did not appear in the names of the stellar spirits. It could be like plue though where lucy actually have the guy a less generic name.

I wonder if natsu will be capable of fighting cobra alone. Natsu's reckless and impulsive nature could help him deal with the situation more appropriately and get past the guys super ear but I doubt that will be enough to deal with him. Considering the guy is poison, he could take out strong dudes in just one hit or in a worst case scenario deal damage little by little until the enemy can't handle it anymore. I get the feeling natsu will be defeated and gazille will make a miraculous appearance and take over. He is just as reckless and impulsive as natsu and his iron skin could prevent him from getting poisoned(unless cobra uses poison gas too lol).

Anyways, awesome chapter.

Evil3ye

August 24, 2009, 07:37 PM

I was kinda disappointed that cobra turned out to be a DS. I wonder if his good hearing capacity is due to his DS though. His poison DS powers go along with his snake thing but that does not mean his DS provided him with good ears considering he is supposed to take the form of a dragon not a snake. Also about that snake, what's up with it? It makes no sense whatsoever with cobra's DS power.... it is either some magical creature he domesticated or a stellar spirit IMO.
I think it was actually a joke :notrust Cobra's ability is to read one's mind, I reckon - not hearing the movements itself.

Wasn't it already clear when he sneaked up to Gererd few chapters back?

Anyway.. I agree with you that if Corbra is really an other Dragon Slayer, then it's disappointed, since the DS type was introduced to be something special but now there are too many of them around :o

mr.danly

August 24, 2009, 08:21 PM

didn't everyone predict Cobra being a dragon slayer a while back because of some tattoo?

LoS

August 24, 2009, 08:54 PM

Chapter started out much too silly for me, but hey that is just Natsu, I guess his immature-goofy personality has to get some air time.

I am still just as bored by Hoteye as when he was first introduced, and at the same time I am still just as intrigued by Midnight as when s/he was first introduced.

I reckon Midnight v Hoteye fight will happen in the background and we will only catch glimpses of it. I don't think it will happen front, and center.

And what is left to say about the Poison Dragon Slayer revelation that has not already been said? Not my cup of tea at all, IMO it pretty much ruined the chapter.

Oh and wtf is Erza and Gerard doing in the meantime? Of the three remaining OS "Dark" members two of them are preoccupied while fighting, and the last(3rd) is operating the city itself. So why are they standing around doing nothing when they could both be beating the crap out of Blaine right now?

bittman

August 24, 2009, 11:35 PM

Well Erza and Gerard are probably climbing somewhere else? I don't know, I expect them to take on Blaine personally.

That or Midnight will completely whoop Hoteye and take on the rest of them by herself...himself...? Still no idea, some say genderless things, and it looks girly, but it doesn't have a prominent chest: something Mashima does often.

Perhaps Erza + Gerard + Natsu v Cobra is also a possibility, though Natsu 1-1'ing Dragon Slayers is becoming a trend.

I don't know, doesn't seem to be enough enemies. Perhaps Hoteye will go evil again just to even things up? If Midnight is an anti-mage, s/he might be able to cancel Nirvana's effect on Hoteye.

Ero-Sanji

August 24, 2009, 11:41 PM

Wtf...

Cobra was the other DS my god I thought it was Midnight!?
Other than that this Chapter was really good imo.

Unlucky Boy

August 24, 2009, 11:45 PM

Could Cobra's snake be his familiar like Happy and Charle are for Natsu and Wendy? they all got the same wings magic... I wonder why there are different kinds though, maybe he's not really a snake but turned into one under a spell or something... also makes me wonder where's Gazeel's familiar.

Also his super hearing could be a DS feature. We already know DS got sensetive senses, for example Natsu and his nose like in here- http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/78/06/
Maybe Cobra's dominant sense is hearing or sixth sense...

Well we'll have to see first if he's really a DS on the next chapter.

LOL for Jura's underwear!

LoS

August 24, 2009, 11:50 PM

Well since it is a snake it reminds me of a Basilisk, and considering Happy, and presumably Charlie, were hatched from eggs just like a Basilisk Cobra's familiar could be based on a Basilisk. Although, folklore clearly says Basilisk's are the brood of Chickens.

kkck

August 25, 2009, 01:06 AM

I think it was actually a joke :notrust Cobra's ability is to read one's mind, I reckon - not hearing the movements itself.

Wasn't it already clear when he sneaked up to Gererd few chapters back?

Anyway.. I agree with you that if Corbra is really an other Dragon Slayer, then it's disappointed, since the DS type was introduced to be something special but now there are too many of them around :o
I sincerely doubt it was a joke of any time... it has been mentioned and implied that is his power for quite a while. then there is this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/138/13/

I still think the snake cobra is with could be the serpent stellar spirit I mentioned before. It's just the perfect pet for the guy... I will take the tatoo location for DS more seriously in the future lol.... BTW, where exactly was luxus tatoo?

BTW, isn't anyone intrigued in the least that hoteye's name is actually richard? The name is waaay to ordinary for a fairytail manga character... it just does not seem right, he might as well been called bob(he does look more like a bob than a richard though). Not saying there is anything wrong with the name bob though....

Ju-da-su

August 25, 2009, 01:12 AM

kkck

August 25, 2009, 01:22 AM

I think mashima is trying to turn midnight into a new haku lool... not so smoothly though.

Unlucky Boy

August 25, 2009, 01:28 AM

I sincerely doubt it was a joke of any time... it has been mentioned and implied that is his power for quite a while. then there is this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/138/13/

I still think the snake cobra is with could be the serpent stellar spirit I mentioned before. It's just the perfect pet for the guy... I will take the tatoo location for DS more seriously in the future lol.... BTW, where exactly was luxus tatoo?

BTW, isn't anyone intrigued in the least that hoteye's name is actually richard? The name is waaay to ordinary for a fairytail manga character... it just does not seem right, he might as well been called bob(he does look more like a bob than a richard though). Not saying there is anything wrong with the name bob though....

If that snake is a spirit then who's the summoner? couldnt really be Angel as she's drained of mana at the moment and the snake is still around.

It's actually Midnight's tatoo's location that matched the other DS and not Cobra, so people said Midnight might be a DS.

And there's already a Bob in fairy tail, the Blue Pegasus guild master =p

bittman

August 25, 2009, 01:30 AM

Just one question out of curiosity...when exactly does it say that Midnight is a girl? :S

I mean, I also translated that chapter, and still find it to be rather anonymous...they didn't say anything about Midnight's gender though. I'm pretty sure of it...:S

PS. In fact, Mashima didn't say if Midnight is a guy either...as far as I recalled. So, yes, I bet cnet is taking that assumption that he's a guy as well... .__."

Just a question whilst you're thinking about it:

In the chapter put up on onemanga, there were two "she"s and one "daughter" all in the couple of pages after Midnight appears. What was the japanese word used during these bubbles to denote Midnight?

Thanks in advance.

(And yeah, agree with kkck. Probably being kept ambiguous for some lulz.)

Ju-da-su

August 25, 2009, 01:45 AM

Just a question whilst you're thinking about it:

In the chapter put up on onemanga, there were two "she"s and one "daughter" all in the couple of pages after Midnight appears. What was the japanese word used during these bubbles to denote Midnight?

Thanks in advance.

(And yeah, agree with kkck. Probably being kept ambiguous for some lulz.)

Pg.11: Gray said "An Oracion Seis!?" (Romaji: Orashion Seisu ka!?)...and just that.

What Lucy said is "Zutto nemutteta hito da!!"...and "hito" just basically means "a person"...nothing specific about gender.

Pg. 12: "Oyakode yami girudo na wake?"...oyako only denotes Brain and Midnight's relationship as a "father and child"...it doesn't really specify whether it's a son or a daughter...:S

PS. Anyone notice that this page (http://img2.pict.com/51/0d/8a/1514535/0/fairytailc14906.jpg) is gone from the scanlation? ._."
PPS. Sorry, I am on the computer that can't type Japanese right now...>_<"

justf0rnow

August 25, 2009, 01:58 AM

3 things that i love from this chapter
Cobra is DS and i hope he'll be back as a good guy or join FT, if possible please!!
Midnight is a girl!!! yaaayyy!!! my long confusing about her is no more XD
and so far, no more Gerard on the chapter XD

Ju-da-su

August 25, 2009, 01:59 AM

Midnight is a girl!!! yaaayyy!!! my long confusing about her is no more XD

...Just right after I explained that it may or may not be true... .__."

Ustegius

August 25, 2009, 02:51 AM

World is love! And by the way, my name is Richard. Laughed so hard.

Otherwise kinda dissapointing chapter again, well mainly the dragon slayer part. Midnight is interesting though, at least something good on the fighting side.

hongoasdf

August 25, 2009, 03:18 AM

First of all, copy paste from my post in onemanga forums, which I am to lazy to edit completely for this forum.

Oh, t'was a great chapter indeed, until the last two pages, which left me... confused, to say the least.

First we get to see some amazing color pages. Mashima never ceases to amaze with his coloring skills. Just looks at how detailed Cobra's pants are.

Next we get to see a good fight, in a modality rarely seen in this manga. I believe the only other aerial fight so far has been Fried vs Mirajane.

We even get to see some hilarity... Natsu telling a joke telepathically made me laugh quite a bit. And almost everything Hoteye says is funny.

Finally, some insight on Nirvana and it's people. Not a particularly interesting back story, but hey, it explains some bits, at least.

And I didn't expect Midnight so soon. This seems like a promising fight, but I doubt Richard (Didn't see that one coming, either) is even with Midnight. Richard'll probably need help from Gray, Lucy, Jura, and maybe even Ichiya. Or, if those three decide to go for Blaine, as their ally suggested, and Ichiya doesn't show up, he'll probably receive some back-up from Wendy. Though I fail to see what help could she be against a foe like Midnight. By the way, they keep changing Midnights gender in the scanlations. I'm now as confused as ever, considering Mashima refuses to refer to he/she/it as any gender.

But then... during what seemed in my eyes as the best chapter so far in this arc, Mashima decides to introduce yet another Dragonslayer.

Sure, I wouldn't mind if he decided to tell Cobra was a Dragonslayer some time later, but two in an arc... well, it seems to me he is hurrying things up... like if he wanted to finish this manga as soon as possible. Well, at least this explains why Cobra was introduced earlier than his companions. And hey, poison is an interesting element for a Dragonslayer.

But, as mentioned some posts above, there is the possibilty that he'll be a fake, just like Luxus. As far as we know, Dragonslayers use only one kind of magic, and Cobra has that mind-hearing thing, too. My guess (And a pretty crazy and far fetched one, at that) is that Cobra heard Natsu's mind depths, learned about him being a Dragonslayer, and, in order to confuse him, changed into a scaly, dragon-like form. But it could actually be more snake magic.

Still, if Cobra is a real Dragonslayer, Natsu's in for a wild night. Having a poisonous flying snake right there to support him means at any time, he could just give an order, the snake would bite him, and boom: instant recovery. And he has the advantage of a strong support magic. Anyways, if he is a real Dragonslayer, I don't think he'll eventually redeem himself, as we've seen a couple of times. I think this one's a definite Dragonslayer villain.

At any rate, now that I think about it, it's only logical that one of the most important Dark Guilds has at least one member capable of using powerful ancient magic. I daresay Tartaros will have another Dragonslayer, and maybe even Grimoire Heart will have one too... but the latter is unlikely, seeing as they already have Urtear, who also uses ancient magic. Maybe Cobra'll join Grimoire Heart once Oración Seis is disbanded at the end of the arc.

Finally, about Midnight also being a Dragonslayer... I wouldn't place my money on it. But who knows. Crazy, crazy Mashima.

Could Cobra's snake be his familiar like Happy and Charle are for Natsu and Wendy? they all got the same wings magic... I wonder why there are different kinds though, maybe he's not really a snake but turned into one under a spell or something... also makes me wonder where's Gazeel's familiar.

Also his super hearing could be a DS feature. We already know DS got sensetive senses, for example Natsu and his nose like in here- http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/78/06/
Maybe Cobra's dominant sense is hearing or sixth sense...

You, my friend, make an interesting post about the familiar thing, but even more so about Cobra's hearing. It's actually the first explanation I've heard, but I doubt it'll get any better.

Anyways, If Gazille does have a familiar, we'll find out sooner or later. Maybe due to his personality, it decided to just go away (Let's face it: He's not the most charming of fellas). Or maybe it's dead, who knows.

Well, that post turned out longer than what I planned. Sorry if I burnt your eyes.

shinsengumi

August 25, 2009, 03:24 AM

dont you think the "dragon slayer" theme is becoming overused?or is it just me?well since we know there will be a "dragon fest" someday in the future,maybe its just normal to slowly meet the candidates but ..cobra being a dragon slayer too : / imo he would be even cooler without being a dragon slayer..something different and unique (i know being the POISON dragon slayer is also unique but why DS all the time -_-' )
i'm surprised why gray didnt turn out to be the ice dragon slayer or erza the item dragon slayer or lucy the key dragon slayer or even master makarov the little-big man Dragon Slayer pufff >_>

Evil3ye

August 25, 2009, 04:57 AM

Pg.11: Gray said "An Oracion Seis!?" (Romaji: Orashion Seisu ka!?)...and just that.

What Lucy said is "Zutto nemutteta hito da!!"...and "hito" just basically means "a person"...nothing specific about gender.

Pg. 12: "Oyakode yami girudo na wake?"...oyako only denotes Brain and Midnight's relationship as a "father and child"...it doesn't really specify whether it's a son or a daughter...:S
Ah ok. So the gender is still pending :amuse
Damn you androgen Emo Midnight :darn

As from the look I'd say it's a girl, but one can't be sure with that (Haku, Deidara, Sasuke ><)

Krono

August 25, 2009, 08:49 AM

Just one question out of curiosity...when exactly does it say that Midnight is a girl? :S

I mean, I also translated that chapter, and still find it to be rather anonymous...they didn't say anything about Midnight's gender though. I'm pretty sure of it...:S

PS. In fact, Mashima didn't say if Midnight is a guy either...as far as I recalled. So, yes, I bet cnet is taking that assumption that he's a guy as well... .__."

Mashima called him "この男" back on this page in chapter 133.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/26164/11?t=1251207725

That's the strongest I can recall as far as calling him by a specific gender.

Ju-da-su

August 25, 2009, 08:57 AM

Ero-Sanji

August 25, 2009, 09:06 AM

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/149/02/

Look! He can also grow some legs or arms...?
Edit: Or it's just the wings...

Anyway Midnight seems to have some strange magic I still believe it's some wind base^^, and finally we are about to see Midnights true powers either in the next chapter or the one after.

Ju-da-su

August 25, 2009, 09:50 AM

...pardon me, but did you read chapter 148? That's Happy's wings... .___."

kkck

August 25, 2009, 10:49 AM

If that snake is a spirit then who's the summoner? couldnt really be Angel as she's drained of mana at the moment and the snake is still around.

It's actually Midnight's tatoo's location that matched the other DS and not Cobra, so people said Midnight might be a DS.

And there's already a Bob in fairy tail, the Blue Pegasus guild master =p

Obviously the summoner would be cobra, who else?:s:facepalm

Who knows, he could be one.... I have the impression midnight will turn out to be like luxus, a fake but powerful DS.

Evil3ye

August 25, 2009, 11:03 AM

Mashima called him "この男" back on this page in chapter 133.

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/26164/11?t=1251207725

That's the strongest I can recall as far as calling him by a specific gender.

Ah! Alright...then he's a guy then...XD

NOOO!!!! http://bleachasylum.com/images/smilies/zomg.png
How could... but how.. lipstick... :facepalm

But what is "この男" supposed to mean anyway? would you tell us?

Unlucky Boy

August 25, 2009, 11:10 AM

eh?! poison magic, hearing magic AND stellar spirit magic? that's too much power even for an OS :p

I dont know about Midnight being a DS either... I think Blaine created him or gave him power when he was still in that magic creation group. He might had been expeled for expirementing on humans.
The idea of implented lachirma might be true but imo it would be some other kind of magic, there are already too many dragons in this arc.

Ju-da-su

August 25, 2009, 11:23 AM

NOOO!!!! http://bleachasylum.com/images/smilies/zomg.png
How could... but how.. lipstick... :facepalm

But what is "この男" supposed to mean anyway? would you tell us?

..."This man" as in opposed to woman... .-.

shinobi

August 25, 2009, 01:53 PM

nice color page!! maybe it's just me but I thought the drawing in this chapter is a little different than usual!! anyway I don't really like having a new DS so soon, and I'd like it better if Gray and Lucy decided to stay and fight Midnight, they're the closest FTs to him/her, but then again I don't think they're equal match for Midnight, maybe Erza and Gerard will take care of him?

Baka_Sousui

August 25, 2009, 09:50 PM

...pardon me, but did you read chapter 148? That's Happy's wings... .___."
I think he's referring to the snake...

dont you think the "dragon slayer" theme is becoming overused?or is it just me?well since we know there will be a "dragon fest" someday in the future,maybe its just normal to slowly meet the candidates but ..cobra being a dragon slayer too : / imo he would be even cooler without being a dragon slayer..something different and unique (i know being the POISON dragon slayer is also unique but why DS all the time -_-' )
i'm surprised why gray didnt turn out to be the ice dragon slayer or erza the item dragon slayer or lucy the key dragon slayer or even master makarov the little-big man Dragon Slayer pufff >_>
Um... I was under the impression that there were a few DS. I don't know why I'm thinking a possible 7. I can't remember why i thought 7, but there are a few, and it seems Mashima is indeed rushing to introduce them some what, as you can see it's the same with the Zodiacs (9/12). It's not confirmed he's a true DS yet.

eh?! poison magic, hearing magic AND stellar spirit magic? that's too much power even for an OS :p

I dont know about Midnight being a DS either... I think Blaine created him or gave him power when he was still in that magic creation group. He might had been expeled for expirementing on humans.
The idea of implented lachirma might be true but imo it would be some other kind of magic, there are already too many dragons in this arc.
I agree it's too much magic for cobra to have. I don't think he has stellar magic. They already have Angel for Stellar magic anyways.

The Midnight theory sounds interesting. Could be half true, the part about Brain using Midnight to experiment with possible magic sounds very plausible. We'll just have to wait and see on that one.

Kravmaga

August 25, 2009, 10:56 PM

NOOO!!!! http://bleachasylum.com/images/smilies/zomg.png
How could... but how.. lipstick... :facepalm

But what is "この男" supposed to mean anyway? would you tell us?

I dunno man, back in my younger days I've been to a party with some random heavy metal band and that bassist dude looked almost exactly like midnight. Believe me, I could summon some pretty colorful words to describe that bunch but effeminate wouldn't come close.

Now let's see, natsu eats fire, gazille eats scrap metal and wendy eats clouds; I wonder what element cobra, the poison dragon slayer would eat... airplane food?

Unlucky Boy

August 25, 2009, 11:55 PM

After reading the chapter again I think maybe Hoteye does have a chance against Midnight. Those two cause so much destruction to the buildings around them so Ichiya might be falling into this battle.
With the slight possibility that Ichiya and richard are brothers like some suggested, they will win.

So if Natsu beats cobra (and he will) that leave too many character to deal with Blaine (Erza, Gerard, Jura, Wendy, Gray and Lucy). As I doubt they would do a 6 on 1, I think maybe Erza will fight him and the rest will have to deal with the evil Cait Shelters and/or Anima that would be attracted by Nirvana.

Natsu Dragonil

August 26, 2009, 03:56 AM

Why did Natsu get hurt as he hit Cobras Dagon scales i mean his DS technique exist to crush Dragon scales or?

Why is Natsu besides Wendy the only DS til now who doesnt have Dragon scales like Gazille,Luxus and now Cobra?

Is he using the lowest power state of his magic that he even doesnt build up Dragon scales?

The fight between Midnight and Hoteye is clear in favour of Midnight cause imo its clear that Midnight is something like a secret weapon of the Oracion seis.
Lucy wont do much with the opponents that are left cause she stand no chance and is still worn out of her fight the same goes for gray he used most of his magic against racer.
The only ones that still can fight full force are Natsu,Ichiya,Erza,Gerard and maybe Jura but he is still injured.

Logically no one stands a chance against Blaine not even Gerard cause Blaine was the one who taught him some magic techniques.

I've got the feeling that Wendy is going to do something that will put Natsu on a whole other Level maybe we will see natsu like in the TOP arc.

Farfalla

August 26, 2009, 08:55 AM

Yesterday I watched "Tales from Earthsea" (a movie by studio Ghibli, a famous japanese studio). I think Mashima might get some ideas from it. First, there's a story about dragons and humans be the same being in the beggining, but humans wanted material stuff, and dragons wanted freedom, so men took earth and sea, and dragons took sky and fire. The movie also say that everything got a name, a real name. And if a mage gets to know your real name, he could control you. I don't know, is a movie about mages, and humans and dragons going separately, and dragons belonging to sky and firey places... And the way Midnight got mad with Hoteye for telling his real name... maybe Mashima got some inspiration from this movie.

Unlucky Boy

August 26, 2009, 11:37 AM

You all should read the new scanlation by I Eat Manga. the translation is much better and there's one page that was missing in the other version (page 7 i think)

http://mangahelpers.com/s/i-eat-manga/readonline/49187/1

kkck

August 26, 2009, 06:53 PM

I read the cnet translation and they refer to midnight as a guy.... I am going to ask him about that lol. If the translation is correct I guess midnight is just a regular emo which is why his gender is mostly ambiguous....

Evil3ye

August 27, 2009, 06:25 AM

the I-Eat-Manga translation Unlucky Boy posted also calls him as a boy. They're speaking of "Father and son in the same dark guild" etc. Seems like he's indeed just an emo male

Ero-Sanji

August 27, 2009, 09:17 AM

...pardon me, but did you read chapter 148? That's Happy's wings... .___."

Noooooo!

Not Natsu but the snake, what are those things groing out of him?

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/149/02/

Anyway, Gray and Lucy are both tired so they are practically out and will only serve for minor things like defeating minor corrupt Cait shelter members. I also think this is the first time Natsu will not fight one the top 2 enemy fighters instead I think Wendy will support Gérard in his fight with Blaine/brain and the combined forces of the top fighter in each guild that wwould be Ichiya, Jura and Erza will face Midnight.

Farfalla

August 27, 2009, 09:25 AM

I asked to a friend that knows japanese and he told me that those words they use to refer to Midnight could mean guy or girl, even in the part they talk about "son/daughter and father".

Unlucky Boy

August 27, 2009, 09:41 AM

Noooooo!

Not Natsu but the snake, what are those things groing out of him?

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/149/02/

those are the wings as you can in here
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/148/16/

Ero-Sanji

August 27, 2009, 09:50 AM

those are the wings as you can in here
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/148/16/

Yeah I kinda understood that but you have to agree that those are som ugly or disfigured wings on that pic...

kkck

August 27, 2009, 11:13 AM

I asked cnet about this chapter and this is what he answered:

I've never thought of Midnight as anything other than male, but for what it's worth, no, there was nothing in that chapter specifically referring to him as such. Looking back, though, in his very first appearance (Chapter 133), he is explicitly referred to as male, so I think it's safe to assume that's the case unless proven otherwise ~_~

Solfy

August 29, 2009, 04:14 PM

Midnight a girl ? Are you kidding ? You know Mashima wouldn't draw a flat-chested girl, right ?

justf0rnow

August 30, 2009, 11:42 AM

Anyway Midnight seems to have some strange magic I still believe it's some wind base^^, and finally we are about to see Midnights true powers either in the next chapter or the one after.

if he used wind magic to throw those houses on this chapter, is it mean he could steal the opponent powers by defeating them ? (wind & snow magic from the 2 pegasus guys)
that'll be awesome!!!

Farfalla

August 30, 2009, 01:29 PM

i got a quote deleted oo' me and another guy

deffkryz

August 30, 2009, 02:16 PM

Midnight a girl ? Are you kidding ? You know Mashima wouldn't draw a flat-chested girl, right ?

Wendy? Anyone? :facepalm

Why did Natsu get hurt as he hit Cobras Dagon scales i mean his DS technique exist to crush Dragon scales or?

DS is to kill dragons

Why is Natsu besides Wendy the only DS til now who doesnt have Dragon scales like Gazille,Luxus and now Cobra?

Natsu had scales when he ate lachryma filled with the aetherion magic. I guess he's just not strong enough. Yet.

Natsu Dragonil

August 30, 2009, 02:35 PM

Wendy? Anyone? :facepalm

DS is to kill dragons

Natsu had scales when he ate lachryma filled with the aetherion magic. I guess he's just not strong enough. Yet.

Dragon scales belong to dragons so he shouldnt have got hurt cause his techniques are meant to kill Dragons like u've mentioned.

If he isnt strong enough to use scales then he will be a monster when he achieve it cause he fought DS with scales nearly equally.Like Luxus and Gazille.

Unlucky Boy

August 30, 2009, 02:36 PM

lol Wendy is still young... Erza also was flat when she was a kid and look at her now :p

I think Natsu got hurt because there was poison coming out of Cobra's claw, not because of the scales.

I always believed Midnight is a guy. There's a guy looking like a girl and wearing makeup in many shounen serieses (and almost always they are awfully strong).

fg7dragon

August 30, 2009, 02:52 PM

Yeah, it was because of the poison. But if he actualy hits him with flames, it won't be a problem. I speek from experience, most poisons burn.

Solfy

August 30, 2009, 06:46 PM

C'mon, Wendy is a child. You know just as well as me that she'll wear wonderful 95F bras when she'll be grown-up.

Anyway, can't wait to see Midnight's ass being kicked. He really looks like a plain and boring character.

Need moar Gerard vs Brain action !

justf0rnow

August 30, 2009, 07:29 PM

C'mon, Wendy is a child. You know just as well as me that she'll wear wonderful 95F bras when she'll be grown-up.

now u mention it, i cant wait to see her grown up...
i still wondering with that worthless ichiya (the perfume pervert), is he going to fight or just hang over there for the rest of his life? (i predict, they'll forget about him when its over to end the arc)

hongoasdf

August 30, 2009, 10:29 PM

Midnight's ass getting kicked? Oh, I hardly see that happening easily. Mashima has spent part of the last few chapters just to show how strong Midnight is. He (probably) killed Ren and Eve without getting scarred, and those guys were, in my opinion, about the same level of Natsu or Gray (Based solely on that those two were able to defeat an entire guild on their own earlier this arc, just like Natsu and Gray).

I believe his ass will be thoroughly kicked in due time,mind you, but first we'll see quite a fight.... maybe even some casualties for the legal guilds (Not likely to happen considering this mangas nature, but a man can dream...).

And as much as I'd like to see Brain fighting seriously, I can't stand Gerard... so I hope he gets taken out early in the fight (Killed, if God answers my prayers) and it's Erza who actually fights him.

Unlucky Boy

August 31, 2009, 01:53 AM

He (probably) killed Ren and Eve without getting scarred, and those guys were, in my opinion, about the same level of Natsu or Gray (Based solely on that those two were able to defeat an entire guild on their own earlier this arc, just like Natsu and Gray).

Unless I see their heads cut off I cant believe they're dead.

It's a shounen rule- all of those thought to be dead are bound to pop up and help at the end of the arc.

Ravis

August 31, 2009, 03:02 AM

Unless I see their heads cut off I cant believe they're dead.

It's a shounen rule- all of those thought to be dead are bound to pop up and help at the end of the arc.

Yea, this is something that I've been thinking about the second i saw Wendy's power. Realistically they really could be dead, as long as the kids alive in the end... everything's good :D

deffkryz

August 31, 2009, 04:27 AM

I always believed Midnight is a guy. There's a guy looking like a girl and wearing makeup in many shounen serieses (and almost always they are awfully strong).

Midnight's an emo, I guess... so androgynous - the complete opposite of an okama like -erm- Ichiya. I don't know whether or not Mashima created him as an okama like Blue Pegasus' master but I take him as such.

C'mon, Wendy is a child.

But a girl. I wouldn't consider anything with oppai any longer a girl, even at 15 they'd be rather young women. *pedantism-is-so-great* :p

You know just as well as me that she'll wear wonderful 95F bras when she'll be grown-up.

now u mention it, i cant wait to see her grown up...

I expect her to become a second Cattleya(sp?) - Haru's sister. ;)

i still wondering with that worthless ichiya (the perfume pervert), is he going to fight or just hang over there for the rest of his life? (i predict, they'll forget about him when its over to end the arc)

Actually, I wouldn't mind if he's not participating at all. I can't stand him - he made Erza afraid. :p

Okay, jokes aside: What could we expect from him? True, he's said to be a great magician - but he didn't show anything, so it's probably nothing much behind those perfume skills. I know Gemini showed that he possesses some kind of paralyzing perfume but I don't think it'd be of any use against someone like either Kobra, Midnight or Brain.

Unlucky Boy

August 31, 2009, 04:40 AM

Actually, I wouldn't mind if he's not participating at all. I can't stand him - he made Erza afraid. :p

Okay, jokes aside: What could we expect from him? True, he's said to be a great magician - but he didn't show anything, so it's probably nothing much behind those perfume skills. I know Gemini showed that he possesses some kind of paralyzing perfume but I don't think it'd be of any use against someone like either Kobra, Midnight or Brain.

I think Ichiya will fall into the middle of the fight between Midnight and Hoteye with all the building destruction going on there.

And his power is all about the perfumes he's holding, we havent seen much of them.

There was a girl using perfumes in GetBackers, her perfumes could burn her enemies from the inside, cause quick corrosion, triple her speed and so on... She was one of the weakest there but the technique itself can be pretty nasty.

Solfy

August 31, 2009, 05:01 AM

Lol, Gerard is actually my favorite character. The Gerard vs Brain fight is gonna be really interesting.

Right now, Gerard cannot *fight*. The powerful attack he used on Natsu (Big Bang attack anyone ?) was just about instinct. I bet him regaining some of his memories (about his magic) will play a major part in that fight. Like, he's getting owned, until he remember something, then he owns Brain's ass like mad.

The guy is one of the ten holy great mages after all, his power is limitless.

By the way, I always thought that Eve and Ren looked weak. They were bound to get defeated quickly.

Ero-Sanji

August 31, 2009, 10:45 AM

Lol, Gerard is actually my favorite character.

I think You're alone there.... ... ... Yeah...!

Anyway what I do like about Gerard is his magic probably because of it's name Heavenly magic although it's actually space magic, get it? Well I enjoy such things:p

And Actually I'm glad about Cobra being a poison D slayer and I hope he's not a fake the first one really hurt me because I love lightning and Luxus is a great character.

Cobra vs Natsu should stay that way.
Blaine vs ? I don't want Erza to defeat him since then the gap between her and Natsu will grow to big, but I also don't want her to defeat Midnight also, at least not alone...

Tsukisama

August 31, 2009, 12:46 PM

The raw and translations are out! Get the details on the releases here (http://mangahelpers.com/m/fairy-tail/chapters/150/)!

Solfy

August 31, 2009, 12:54 PM

Guess I'll write again here :

I can't speak japanese at all, but it seems like Cobra got his ass kicked by Natsu. Yay for the epic fail. I mean wtf, Mashima just introduce a new Dragon Slayer and this one got his ass kicked in barely ONE chapter RIGHT AFTER his introduction. Dragon Slayers = fail. Meh chapter anyway, it's really just about fighting.

Hopefully next week will be better...

kkck

August 31, 2009, 01:14 PM

Cool chapter but I do have 1 complain. The way in which cobra was defeated was way too predictable and has been done a million times... seriously, just one loud scream lol. I do find it interesting that cobra confused what type of roar natsu was going to use though.

I don't know if I like the idea of the dragon lachrima. On one hand, it could be an interesting plot device in the future as long as it is used correctly but it can also be a cheap trick to introduce DS powers in the story. It would be interesting if at some point there is a real DS vs fake DS in the story though.

I will comment more on the chapter once I read the scanlation.

hongoasdf

August 31, 2009, 01:20 PM

Regular fight chapter. However, after reading the translation we get to hear Cobra isn't a "real " Dragonslayer; He's just like Luxus. Apparently, he had some Dragon Lachryma inserted into his body.

Furthermore, we hear an interesting opinion about Dragonslayers. Cobra says there is no such thing as a human with "real" Dragonslayer powers, as it's a magic which only Dragons can use, so Natsu's magic is more questionable even than his own Lachryma-infused magic.

Oh, I would've loved it if Cobra fought Gazille instead of Natsu. For some reason, the idea came to my head (Speaking of "real" Dragonslayers, maybe). It would've been a more interesting fight, as Gazille would've been at a constant disadvantage since he can't fly. Also, if you ask me, Gazille's Dragonslayer magic is far more amusing than Natsu's. And in the end, we know he would've won, and stood up high and mighty with his "I kick ass" aura around him. Go Metal.

Also, it would seem Jura, Gray and Lucy abandoned Hoteye to his doom, as they appeared somewhat peaceful when they heard Natsu's roar... which they wouldn't be if they were fighting. They are going to Brain as suggested, after all. I already count good ol' Richard for dead.

Unlucky Boy

August 31, 2009, 01:31 PM

Hmm I didnt like this fight. It ended too quickly and the chapter had no other development.

Anyway Cobra raises many questions for me...
Can the lachyrma crystals teach only DS magic or other kinds of magic as well? Do those crystals have some connection to the dragons?
When you use lachyrma how is the DS element being chosen? Was Cobra's magic poison-based even before becoming a DS? (same for Luxus and lighting magic). And if it was, what about the super-hearing magic? that seems so random...

Oh and I think Cobra isnt finished yet. We havent heard his prayer, and no line disappeared on Blaine's face.

hongoasdf

August 31, 2009, 01:46 PM

Anyway Cobra raises many questions for me...
Can the lachyrma crystals teach only DS magic or other kinds of magic as well?

There's probably more kinds of Lachryma Crystals. The one that bestows Dragonslaying Magic unto the user is a Dragon Lachryma. Maybe there's a type of Crystal for every (or most) of the magic genres. But as Master Iván said, Dragon Lachryma is far rarer, thus more expensive, but that's because it's a very strong magic. Oh, I would like to see an army of "mass-produced Dragon Lachrymas" Dragonslayers somewhere during the story.

When you use lachyrma how is the DS element being chosen? Was Cobra's magic poison-based even before becoming a DS? (same for Luxus and lighting magic). And if it was, what about the super-hearing magic? that seems so random...

I believe it's based on the magic affinity or something like that. Luxus knew many kinds of magic (As read on his presentation card when it appeared), but the one that predominated and the one he used the most was his lightning magic.

For Cobra... well, It couldn't be something like "Hearing Dragonslayer" as his super hearing was like a "passive" skill. Also it would have been lame, so the Lachryma chose the next element he had the most affinity to; Poison.

But I could be horribly wrong. Maybe they even choose their element somehow when the Lachryma is infused into their bodies.

Oh and I think Cobra isnt finished yet. We havent heard his prayer, and no line disappeared on Blaine's face.

Dat be true.

Unlucky Boy

August 31, 2009, 03:28 PM

There's probably more kinds of Lachryma Crystals. The one that bestows Dragonslaying Magic unto the user is a Dragon Lachryma. Maybe there's a type of Crystal for every (or most) of the magic genres. But as Master Iván said, Dragon Lachryma is far rarer, thus more expensive, but that's because it's a very strong magic. Oh, I would like to see an army of "mass-produced Dragon Lachrymas" Dragonslayers somewhere during the story.

Oh I missed it when Gazeel and Ivan called it "Dragon erosion lachyrma", so I guess there really are many kinds of them.
But I think there should be 7 or so types of dragon lachyrma, one for each DS element. Let's say someone like Levi or Reedus gets one, they dont have any specific element they're related to so I think it depends on the crystal.
That also would mean that there are real lighting and poison dragon slayers out there.

BTW, could those fish on the front page be Pisces? Gemini also had a front page with Happy long before they appeared in the story.
They look kinda regular for a spirit though...

kaizoku king

August 31, 2009, 03:40 PM

the chapter was not bad . i would do anything to hear that roar of natsu i guess ill wait for the anime and hopes it dont dissapoint.

Ero-Sanji

August 31, 2009, 03:46 PM

NOOOOO!

He was a fake, a terrible fake!
But this also makes us think in different ways. For instance all the questions unlucky boy said are very interesting.

But was it just me that for an instance thought that Natsu was the real Igneel, I mean first Cobra said that they were the only ones who knew the magic and then he said that Dragons are extinct. But then the fun stopped when I remembered natsu's flashback with Igneel and that Igneel was seen alive with Grandine.

So i think the real DS will have powers that Man could use (use of) in the past:
-Fire
-Metal
-Air/Wind (Though I still believe those are separate things)
-Earth
-Water
-Sand
-Light
-Darkness
etc...

While the fakes are things we couldn't use:
-Lightning
-Ice
-Poison
-Magma
-Gas/Steam
etc...

ssj4jw

August 31, 2009, 03:56 PM

I believe people who have Dragon Lachryma believe it is more efficient than a tradional Dragon Slayer. Maybe the dragons that left may have a plan for there students to go to the next level.

alphaclone01

August 31, 2009, 04:17 PM

Dragon Lachryma may be more efficient, but it is also the only way for new mages to learn dragon slayer magic as all of the dragons have disappeared. We will probably see more of the lachryma dragon slayers in the future, but I think the kicker is that the dragon slayers taught by dragons are inherently stronger, or have the potential to be stronger, than ones who are infused with lachryma.

A battle royal between real and infused dragon slayers would be a great fight!

Kravmaga

August 31, 2009, 05:37 PM

Mmh...
I didn't find it too predictable, in fact I don't recall anyone predicting natsu using his brains, let alone phantom it myself.

And as for the fight ending too quickly, I highly doubt that cobra's done for and I highly doubt people would have liked this areal fight dragging on any longer. Sometimes, I wonder if fairy tail is just so genius as to strike a balance between shounen plot and an incredibly uneven pacing or if I've just read too much terrible crap and thus lowered my expectations... Regardless, it's one of the few titles that I enjoy consistently every time.

ssj4jw

August 31, 2009, 06:25 PM

Cobra really caused his own defeat. How many times did he say he can hear Natsu's movements. Natsu may not be bright but after hearing Cobra say it so many times he was bound to use it against him.

exacta

August 31, 2009, 06:32 PM

Somewhat disappointed that Cobra was a fake Dragonslayer. I'm much more disappointed that he was actually defeated right after he revealed he was a Dragonslayer though.....I was starting to like him. I guess he's not dead but.... Also very tired of seeing Natsu win. Even the bad guys in Bleach are treated better than the bad guys in Fairy Tail....

WilliamK

August 31, 2009, 06:44 PM

Isn't it normal for the fights to end this chapter? All fights from One Piece (well CP9 atleast) to Fairy Tail start one chapter (mid to start), and end the next chapter.

Blanka

August 31, 2009, 06:49 PM

The idea of fake vs. real does not really matter. Lachyrma crystals are inherently powerful, giving the user most likely full access to a type of magic. However, traditionally taught dragon slayers have knowledge and wisdom passed down as well.
It seems in this fight and in the luxus battle, the new slayers have their power augmented by other magic. Luxus was a lightning/thunder mage, so no one got suspicious when he used lightning attacks. His powers are enhanced because DS magic is added to his abilities.
Cobra had sensitive hearing and abilities similar to the snake he keeps. That snake gives him tons of fuel for his DS magic. It would be like if gazille and natsu walked around with a bag of nails and a flamethrower.
The new DS knew other magic first, so with their acquired abilities they could best set up a lethal combo.
Wendy, Natsu and Gazille just train their DS magic. They do not incorporate other methods to augment or enhance their abilities. They are more concerned with trying to refine their DS magic.
It is like traditional Samurais with their code versus sword wielding new samurai that add additional weaponry and provisions. Neither way is wrong, just different styles.

The new DS without the dragon's teachings will take their skill set and maximize its lethality.

kkck

August 31, 2009, 08:04 PM

Ok, finally read the new chapter lol. I kinda liked the fight, although it was a little too short, specially for an oracion 6 as "haxed" as cobra(seriously, poison and super magical mind listener). On another noted, cobra's overall magical abilities were not all that superior to that of natsu IMHO. I guess that shows how strong natsu has gotten lol.

I can't help but wonder exactly where the lachrima comes from and how the real DS turned into DS. DS are supposed to have the physical constitution of a dragon which makes the whole situation kinda weird. IMHO the lachrima comes from real dragons. That only raises the question of why would the dragons teach the real thing to the DS. Maybe the dragons choose a number of kids to obtain real DS magic in order to fight and defeat the fake DS. Considering the DS have the constitution of a dragon, it makes sense that a DS is the perfect enemy from them. Of course it also works the other way around....

XaviiiFT

August 31, 2009, 09:00 PM

nice chapter but very short XD
cobra is not a dragon slayer O_O

Aikidoka

August 31, 2009, 10:05 PM

Ero-Sanji

August 31, 2009, 11:29 PM

kkck

September 01, 2009, 12:07 AM

A darkness DS, that would be interesting lol. What would that do... eat away the darkness within people's hearts? Kinda ironic lol

Unlucky Boy

September 01, 2009, 01:17 AM

That picture of Igneel roaring made me think...

Maybe Igneel is inside Natsu?

I know it's crazy but what's a better place for the dragons to hide in than inside humans? no one would expect that.
Maybe thats why they taught human children their magic, so their constitution will be that of a dragon and they would be able to live inside of them.
I know when Grandine visited Igneel there were volacanos and lava all over but well thats a magic world, maybe thats how Natsu's heart looks on the inside...
It can also explain the barrier isuue, and also why Natsu feels like he knows Wendy- they were speaking of her in his heart or whatever while he was unconscious.

Chocolove77

September 01, 2009, 03:59 AM

I totally agree with Unlucky Boy, signs indicate that somehow Igneel is "inside" Natsu or is Natsu. After all according to Fried's magic, Natsu and Gazille, who are both "natural" dragon slayer are more than 80 years old. And now Cobra stating that it is impossible for humans to learn dragon slayer magic...

Solfy

September 01, 2009, 04:16 AM

Mh, I do not think Natsu is that strong.... He just always have some incredible luck (Main character syndrome I guess.)
Completely powerless against Gerard, useless against Luxus, without Aetherion or Gazille, he would have been killed fairly easily.

Anyway, I really have a bad feeling about the ending of this arc. Something like "Oh noes, Brain is too strong, he kicks everybody's asses ! Oh, Natsu just awakened (again, again and again) his 1337th Dragon sense ! Oh, Brain can't do anything now".

Please don't Mashima.

BinCs

September 01, 2009, 04:19 AM

And now Cobra stating that it is impossible for humans to learn dragon slayer magic...
It was only an assumption on Cobra's part. I think, he didn't see any dragon nor real dragon slayer before, so he can't know wether it's impossible to teach a human DS magic or not.

Solfy

September 01, 2009, 04:21 AM

Exactly. He said that it is impossible for humans to learn dragon slayer magic because the dragons were no more (according to him).

Unlucky Boy

September 01, 2009, 04:53 AM

Yeah, you're right! I was kinda tired at the time...

Well someone assumed that there would only be seven so the ancient elements should be the correct answers:

- Fire
- Wind/Air
- Earth/Wood
- Metal
- Water
- Light
- Darkness

And the rest would be the fake ones...

But thats all about dragon elements, not human... Dragons could control all the nature elements far before humans could. There's no reason there wont be any dragon that posses an element ancient people couldnt manipulate.

Exactly. He said that it is impossible for humans to learn dragon slayer magic because the dragons were no more (according to him).

That's right, Cobra doesnt know this but there are still some dragons in the world so it was possible for humans to learn the DS magic from them.
I dont think Natsu can possibly be Igneel. We did see them together in flashbacks and we did see Igneel himself.
I dont think the DS are any older than they seem. If my thoery is true and Igneel really hides inside of Natsu's body then that's why he couldnt walk throught Fried's barrier.

deffkryz

September 01, 2009, 07:23 AM

Mh, I do not think Natsu is that strong.... He just always have some incredible luck (Main character syndrome I guess.)
Completely powerless against Gerard, useless against Luxus, without Aetherion or Gazille, he would have been killed fairly easily.

"Fate - it protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise mages from the Fairy Tail."

You really think of it as lucky and main character syndrome? I don't because it would make FT plain - and plain manga aren't worth our time thus making the anime being cancelled for sure after the first 13 episodes.

Actually, such an end was obvious, wasn't it? I've had my head down on my desk yesterday evening for minutes... How often did Mashima state that Cobra is keen-eared? Sure I've expected something else as a loud attack to make that power useless or turn it into a disadvantage than Natsu shouting but... It's easy, it was announced but came unexpected in that way. I can't say anything else but... "That's genious."

I'm happy with this outcome but at the end of this arc or some pages after it Mashima should present us some explanation about what it means to be a dragon slayer tought by a dragon. Those lachryma fakers sure are annoying.

Ero-Sanji

September 01, 2009, 08:40 AM

@ Deffkryz

Yeah they are starting to get on my nerves too...

And as I said Igneel and Natsu might be closer to each other than we think. Btw didn't Igneel tell Grandine to stay away from "the" humans? If that is the case then perhaps the dragons are prohibited to be seen by someone or something.

Chocolove77

September 01, 2009, 09:34 AM

It was only an assumption on Cobra's part. I think, he didn't see any dragon nor real dragon slayer before, so he can't know wether it's impossible to teach a human DS magic or not.

On the contrary, it doesn't seem like an assumption on Cobra's part at all. He seems to know way more about dragons and dragon slayers than Natsu. And his speech implies he did see real dragons slayer and has witnessed the power of a "real" dragon slayer. "you're not bad for an old style dragon slayer".And he clearly stated that Dragon Slayer magic is a skill reserved to dragons only.

"There is no ordinarely way to learn dragon slaying magic" he says. Which means you can't learn it like Grey learned ice make magic or ex equip magic. Dragon Slayer magic enables a human to eat fire, metal, poison gas and lightning and gain energy from it. There's no way a human can learn that no matter how hard he practices.There has to be something more you have to do to be able to use this magic. And that is I think "becoming" a dragon yourself

imamess

September 01, 2009, 10:20 AM

There have been quite a few hints when Natsu gets stronger that he is indeed becoming a dragon. There's this chapter with the imagery of Igneel when Natsu roared, and there's also what happened to him when he ate aetheron. A huge dragon appeared over him in flames and he looked to have scales starting to cover his face. When he was coming toward Gerard for the final blow, we saw a dragon reflected in Gerard's eye. So the hints have all been there. This is just another big one.

The lacryma may be made from the understanding and analysis of DS magic (Brain mentions being on a magic development council, so there are people who analyze and develop magic), but it's just an imitation of what the magic can do.

Unlucky Boy

September 01, 2009, 10:27 AM

On the contrary, it doesn't seem like an assumption on Cobra's part at all. He seems to know way more about dragons and dragon slayers than Natsu. And his speech implies he did see real dragons slayer and has witnessed the power of a "real" dragon slayer. "you're not bad for an old style dragon slayer".And he clearly stated that Dragon Slayer magic is a skill reserved to dragons only.

"There is no ordinarely way to learn dragon slaying magic" he says. Which means you can't learn it like Grey learned ice make magic or ex equip magic. Dragon Slayer magic enables a human to eat fire, metal, poison gas and lightning and gain energy from it. There's no way a human can learn that no matter how hard he practices.There has to be something more you have to do to be able to use this magic. And that is I think "becoming" a dragon yourself

But he goes on and says "After all, there are no dragons in this world", which implies that if there were it would be possible to acquire this magic.

All the old-style/new generation is about DS magic being an ancient magic and lachryma infusing is something new in the magic world that may have its benefits.

And it doesnt seem like he knows much about dragons if he says that they are extinct.

Ero-Sanji

September 01, 2009, 12:40 PM

And it doesnt seem like he knows much about dragons if he says that they are extinct.

I would say that of all the people in the series so far; Natsu, Wendy and Gazille are the ones who knows the best about dragons.

Although Blaine, Urtear, Ivan and Hades should have some Intel on the subject...

What's bothering me the most is the fact that Cobra called the old fashion DS weak.

Cobra: "Not half bad for an old-style dragon Slayer"

It's like he has faced one before...

Kravmaga

September 01, 2009, 12:49 PM

I would say that of all the people in the series so far; Natsu, Wendy and Gazille are the ones who knows the best about dragons.

Although Blaine, Urtear, Ivan and Hades should have some Intel on the subject...

What's bothering me the most is the fact that Cobra called the old fashion DS weak.

Cobra: "Not half bad for an old-style dragon Slayer"

It's like he has faced one before...

Interesting thought!
Wendy's age was shown; is she the genuine article or another crystal user?

If she's the real deal, was cobra referring to her?
Because if he was, that's really not saying too much.

hongoasdf

September 01, 2009, 12:59 PM

Oh, I believe Cobra ought to know something about real Dragonslayers or Dragons.

For all we know, the only character who has succesfuly conducted the experiments with Dragon Lachryma is Master Iván, and in order to begin those experiments and create or get a hold of Dragon Lachryma, he needed previous knowledge about real Dragonslayers and Dragons. If my theory is correct, Iván is the one who provided OS/Cobra specifically with the Dragon Lachryma, and he probably explained a thing or two about the magic he was about to possess. So yeah, if Cobra knew more about Dragonslaying and Dragons than Natsu, Gazille or Wendy, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Also, consider that Cobras leader, Brain, used to develop magic, so he most likely knows a lot about different kinds of magic, including ancient ones like Dragonslaying (Or Urtear's Arc of Time), and it's only natural for a leader to give intel to his troops.

The point of all that? Cobra may be more than just making assumptions; He may actually have reliable information on the Dragons and the Dragonslayer magic. But of course, it's all just a theory, so I could (will) be awfully wrong. My only real expectation is that Raven Tail is conducting experiments on fake Dragon Lachryma, and we see a fake Dragonslayer army fighting a group of real Dragonslayers somewhere during the story.

On another topic, I had thought a bit on real Dragonslayers having the Dragons inside of them. I mean, Dragons supposedly disappeared over night... and a creature like that probably leaves its tracks, so if they vanished so suddenly, it couldn't have been to anywhere their childs could have seen. It would also explain the age barrier thingy, why Wendy's name ringed a bell to Natsu, and why he seems to resemble a Dragon more and more with each of his rages.

But there's the issue of the actual conversation between Igneel and Grandine... but I'll leave that to Mashima's imagination.

Ero-Sanji

September 01, 2009, 04:03 PM

No, it has already been proved wrong about Cobra knowing more than Natsu at least about Dragons in general. I mean the whole point about thinking that Dragons are extinct shows his lack of information.

Chocolove77

September 01, 2009, 05:11 PM

Ero-Sanji

September 01, 2009, 11:51 PM

Einstein didn't everything about physics and some of his theories were proven wrong. Does that mean he isn't a reliable source when it comes to physics and that we shouldn't give him credibility? I don't think so.
Simply because he said something that is seemingly wrong doesnt mean he doesn't know more than Natsu.
And as far as we know Dragons disapeared from this world when Natsu was a child. So it's not totally wrong to say they are extinct, after all even "real" dragon slayers can't find them anywhere. As far as the rest of the world, who didn't spend their childhood with dragons is concerned, they are extinct.

I understand your point.

But we all know that Natsu has encountered a dragon no correction he was raised by a dragon and that alone should be quite enough to understand that Natsu is the one besides Gazille and Wendy who knows the most about Dragons.

The only exception would be someone who have encountered the Dragon while he/she was all grown up and as far as we have seen I can only imagine; Ivan, Hades and Blaine...

The Dragon was his parent! I can't understand how somebody who have never met a dragon could know more about them than someone who was raised by them...

Cobra said the dragons were extinct, no? We already got proof that his well and alive, someone mentioned that perhaps Igneel might be inside Natsu. Well I disagree, cause that would mean that Grandine is inside Wendy but what was she doing in Natsus body? And Igneel told Grandine to stay away from the humans meaning that she at least is not inside of Wendy.

Unlucky Boy

September 02, 2009, 12:25 AM

Cobra said the dragons were extinct, no? We already got proof that his well and alive, someone mentioned that perhaps Igneel might be inside Natsu. Well I disagree, cause that would mean that Grandine is inside Wendy but what was she doing in Natsus body? And Igneel told Grandine to stay away from the humans meaning that she at least is not inside of Wendy.

Well we dont know if that was really Grandine or some astral projection of him/her in that ball of light, and it's also possible that the dragons can leave the human bodies...there are ways to explain this.
Igneel told Grandine not to interfere with the humans.

And I kinda doubt Ivan or Blaine got anything to do with the dragons.
If Blaine was involved with them I bet Cobra had known that they are not extinct.
Ivan just wants to sell the dragon lachryma. He doesnt care about it, he just wants his revenge on FT.
Hades on the other hand I believe knows much. He's after the keys to Zeref's seal and that has got to be connected to the dragons as we know from the convesation between Igneel and Grandine.

kazille

September 02, 2009, 05:29 AM

CObra knows something.. remember that the guy has eavesdropping magic.

Lee-tyme7

September 02, 2009, 06:29 PM

LOL!! This chapter was awsome! I didn't expect Natsu to finish Cobra off with the Dragon Roar but it was a better ending to the fight than I had thought. Cobra going down by Natsu dragon roar was priceless. I guess Cobra's hearing ablility back fire on him. hahaha...
Grey: "What was that?!"
Lucy: "It's a monster!"
LMAO!!

cleodux

September 03, 2009, 10:39 PM

From the chapter that i read and what my little brain can manage to catch is. Natsu won over Cobra was out of pure luck. But it doesn't mean Natu is not strong enough to defeat Cobra.

Natsu originally intends to use Dragon roar, but when Cobra tackles it and throwing him down together, Natsu resorts to use his battle roars (probably to makes his body move) Cobra just happen to be near him, and his ears is too sensitive to hear all that roar hence, knocked out. Noticed that only Wendy recoqnizes his voice. And Lucy said "a monster" lol.

IMO the chapter were good. It is about time Natsu vs Cobra end. This is not Bleach where ever single of character shows casing skills, flashy techniques (my technique beat yours kind of way, recycle too) and 3 good chapter is kind of enough.

About the theories Natsu (or Dragon resides on their pupils body) and Dragon. Where the theory sounds plausible, i kind of don't really like it (though it will be cool and original) I prefer DS as a true Dragon. Means they were/are hatcling and going to adolecense and grown up to be a full fledge Dragon.

Cobra, i don't think he ever meet a DS before. Since he got the lachryma infused within him and gained a powerfull magic of course every damn baddass guys will thought that the old school is nothing compare to his magic. I believe what he is saying about Dragon are extinct kinda mirror every one thought about that. Since DS considered as ancient magic, everyone pretty much don't have idea what its all about and easily accept it when someone proclaims that he/she is a DS. (oh he/she is a DS full stop, none of them bother to checks their background).

Unlucky Boy

September 04, 2009, 10:35 AM

No one mentioned the very intersting name of the next chapter "The Six Demons Annihilated?!"
Do you think it's possible that Midnight would be beaten in 1 chapter?!?
Anyway I doubt the OS are really going to lose before we find out what Blaine wants from Cait Shelter

And what are Natsu and Happy going to do now when they're poisoned and worn out? They cant beat Blaine like that...where are Wendy and Charle when you need them?

Solfy

September 04, 2009, 06:19 PM

The awesome pairing, Gerard and Erza, will trash Blaine, simple as that.

Chocolove77

September 04, 2009, 08:25 PM

Didn't notice the name of the next chapter!
There's no way Midnight could be beaten next week, especially not by Hoteye alone. He is supposed to be very strong, even his/her dad Blaine fears him/her. Actually it would be more plausible to see Blaine temporarily taken down by someone, since he can't defend himself and use magic while he is busy controlling Nirvana.

Steco

September 07, 2009, 11:39 AM

151 out!

OMG!! Further comments need translation...

Go here (http://mangahelpers.com/m/fairy-tail/chapters/151/) for the latest information on the release of this chapter.

pongy

September 07, 2009, 11:59 AM

Unlucky Boy

September 07, 2009, 12:31 PM

Jura finally shows us what it means to be one of the top ten 10 mages.

.....As for Midnight.............

I hope the author doesn't disappoint us with this Midnight character.. He was introduced as one of the most badass character and now getting owned like nothing..

I think Hoteye knew Midnight's weak point. He aimed at the ground or the buldings around him and not directly at him like Natsu, Eve and Ren did. That's how I think he got him hurt that much, but I dont think we saw the last of him yet.

Cant wait for the translation, this chapter looks the most interesting one of this arc so far.

Ero-Sanji

September 07, 2009, 12:50 PM

My god...

This Chapter was really really good, what's going on???

Edit: Waiting for the translation...

Ju-da-su

September 07, 2009, 01:01 PM

- Brain said he doesn't need a trash of the six demons who can't even win the Guilds of Justice (don't know what it's called in English...I don't read FT scanlation and English translation after all... .__."), so he took down Cobra right after he stood up and made claime that he'll defeat Natsu with his pride as the Six Demons on the line.
- Brain plans to make Natsu his first "puppet" and use him to rebuild the Oracion Seis (which...have only 3 left... ._.")
- First destination of Nirvana is Cait Shelter, but guess you all already knew that...though, this time, it's right out of Brain's mouth...
- Jura demands that Brain tell them the reason for why he's heading for Cait Shelter first, said he won't let him sleep until he tells them the reason...and yeah, pwned. Next chapter is Jura's battle now~ XD
- And yeah...looks like Midnight is defeated...he said he doesn't want to lose, and runs away, only to be hit by Hoteye's spell since Hoteye's eyes can see through everything.

Just my little attempt to give the synopsis...even though I know that cnet will probably get it t/led in no time...-_-"

BinCs

September 07, 2009, 01:14 PM

Thank you, Ju-da-su!
So, Racer, Angel and Cobra were just tools in his hands. Each of them were bestowed with powers to achieve their goals - to be the fastest, to be an angel, to hear friend's voice - but their couldn't. I understand why Brain wants to rebuild his guild of despair.

Chocolove77

September 07, 2009, 01:19 PM

MidoBan

September 07, 2009, 01:22 PM

That was sooo lame!
It's ok for Hoteye to be awesome and win, but I expected to see de fight! To see all the strategy he used, I don't know... All this scene Mashima made just to lead us to a page where Midnight is finally defeated really sucked... I hope there's more and that's not Midnight's end.

hongoasdf

September 07, 2009, 01:28 PM

What the fu-

I demand an explanationtranslation!!!

Seriously... I would've liked at the very least seeing a page or two of Hoteye vs Midnight.

imamess

September 07, 2009, 02:32 PM

I wouldn't count Midnight out just yet. It'd just be really strange if this was the last of him, and we never got to see exactly what his magic is.

LoS

September 07, 2009, 02:44 PM

Solfy

September 07, 2009, 02:55 PM

Nice chapter ! Midnight was owned, at last, Cobra actually BEAT Natsu, now that's great Mashima !

For once, I guess he managed to suprise us all, and that's really awesome.

Give me some GerardxErza action next and I'll be some really happy cat.

Ju-da-su

September 07, 2009, 03:18 PM

Ummm...Cobra didn't beat Natsu. Rather, Brain shot some magic at Cobra right after he stood up again, said he doesn't need an useless trash of the Six Demons that can't win against the guild of light... .__."

LoS

September 07, 2009, 03:24 PM

Solfy

September 07, 2009, 04:12 PM

Cobra was about to finish off Natsu... So Cobra won the match !

hongoasdf

September 07, 2009, 04:55 PM

Found a translated version already: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TFL7ZQX4

Even after reading it... I still don't get it. Why the fuck would Mashima want to destroy the most badass character he's introduced so far, without even showing his fight? I still demand an explanation!

Oh, and Jura is getting angry. We'll get to see his bald fury next chapter, alright.

punsen

September 07, 2009, 05:15 PM

Classic inconsistent power levels in Shounen manga, this manga most definitely follows the trend. This is a huge pet peeve of mine, when one character dominates everyone and then suddenly he/she gets curb stomped by someone who not long before was being easily dominated themselves by a weak character. And this isn't even an issue of Nakama powerup either, :facepalm

which characters are you talking about?

it cant be Brain and Jura, because Jura wasnt dominated before.
and neither Midnight and Hoteye (same reason)

so I cant find a pair that currently would fit your described situation

Solfy

September 07, 2009, 05:37 PM

I still wonder how can Midnight possibly be considered badass. He's just a crappy and weak emo.

mjohner1

September 07, 2009, 06:16 PM

agreed that midnight is an emo. acts tough but really isn't fits his prayer to be the strongest.

Zatono

September 07, 2009, 07:22 PM

When I saw Midnight getting wrecked, I was like wtf?! This has GOTTA be a trick. After introducing him in that kinda way, they're gonna let him get wrecked?

Aikidoka

September 07, 2009, 07:58 PM

No way! No way! No way!
It's the sickest chapter ever! One page after the other, my 'O' face was getting worse and worse!
All my predictions were wrong! Cobra wasn't done for, Hoteye pawned Midnight (off screen!!!) Jura is badass and on par with Brain, who seems really scared. I can't believe this. Looks like Mashima really wants to speed things up!
Astonishing chapter! I do hope Midnight will get back up and kick some ass though. he was supposed to be strong and feared by his own father.
Waiting for trans *

When I saw Midnight getting wrecked, I was like wtf?! This has GOTTA be a trick. After introducing him in that kinda way, they're gonna let him get wrecked?
Yeah, I mean, WTF? Hoteye was weak, right? I'm pretty sure he was weak...

EDIT: Took another look at the manga, I guess I was wrong...it was never implied that he was weak, I guess I just assumed he was since he looks weak.

I'm sure this isn't the end of Midnight though, he'll make a comeback. I'm just still surprised at the way Hoteye is actually strong...

Freakzin

September 07, 2009, 08:18 PM

why does everyone call Midnight a guy, I always thought he was a girl, what is it like that Haku from naruto that looks like a woman but is a guy?

kkck

September 07, 2009, 09:59 PM

Ok, I got to say it, loved the chapter.

First thing worth mentioning is natsu. The kid pushed an oracion 6 to his limits by screaming lol. Tough luck though, he landed on a vehicle and had poison on him. I would say the fight was a draw though. If natsu had not landed on nirvana, he probably would have been able to fight back even in spite of the poison.

Second interesting thing is cobra. We finally got to see the guys prayer. Kinda weird to want to hear his only friends prayer, specially when the guy he is talking about is his snake. I fail to see the meaning behind his prayer. He also kept going on about the old fashion dragon slayer thing. I guess there has to be a difference since he keeps bringing it up.

Jura and hoteye and put up a good show. Hoteye proved to have a great combination of powers. He has the ability to see through stuff and make the ground soft to attack. Such a combination == win IMHO. He could esentially make the ground anyone is standing on soft, meaning that fighting is almost impossible if you are unable to maneuver in mid air. I do doubt midnight has been defeated though. I bet he has a few tricks under his sleeve. There is also a thing we overlooked last chapter. Hoteye said "those of the six stand in equal ground with each other". Just a few chapters back we also saw jura standing on equal ground with hoteye except for the fact that their magic works the opposite way. His magic would also destroy any ground under the enemy while attacking from any angle as he just showed. Again, without ability to maneuver in midair, you are gonna have trouble. I guess that explains how jura was able to surprise brain like that. I don't expect him to have an easy time with brain but he most likely will do a few impressive things.

Kravmaga

September 07, 2009, 10:30 PM

What irks me so much is how Blaine is totally evil and bad ass one page, and then on the very next he looks like such a total dweeb about to get his shit pushed in. Make up your mind, is he this kick ass character with high intelligence, and powerful magic, or just some loser. Because this split personality-ish crap is getting very old.

Umm... I respectfully disagree here. You could have used any other way to express your dislike of those turns of events but "old" is pretty much the only word that doesn't work. It's not old, shit this is the most unpredictable, hectic and satisfying plotline I've read in years. Grey v Racer was meh/aight, Lucy v Angel was really good, Natsu v Cobra was pretty good and these recent events are pretty amazing.

Some may hate it that they can't predict the outcome of fights based on powerlevels or that you can't call your favorite character a badass because he still hurts when he takes a hit and runs when losing, but all these things that you seem to dislike, I find a refreshing breath of originality. You never know what's gonna happen next but when it does, it always seems a step away from what years of shounens have pounded into our heads. The pace of the storytelling is totally wild, one minute, it seemed something epic was gonna happen and the next, something even more epic happens instead! Midnight defeated by nirvana Hoteye? Cobra getting a TKO on Natsu and then betrayed? Suddenly badass Jura vs Blaine? Hell fucking yes! It's not a WTF moment, it's a WTF-happy hour and I love it! I'm serious. If the OS arc could cook and get pregnant, I'd marry it.

I can totally predict evil Erza vs Ichiya and evil Wendy vs the rest of the good guys or something crazy and judging from this chapter, there's a chance I could be right! =P

LoS

September 07, 2009, 11:05 PM

Ero-Sanji

September 07, 2009, 11:07 PM

Umm... I respectfully disagree here. You could have used any other way to express your dislike of those turns of events but "old" is pretty much the only word that doesn't work. It's not old, shit this is the most unpredictable, hectic and satisfying plotline I've read in years. Grey v Racer was meh/aight, Lucy v Angel was really good, Natsu v Cobra was pretty good and these recent events are pretty amazing.

Some may hate it that they can't predict the outcome of fights based on powerlevels or that you can't call your favorite character a badass because he still hurts when he takes a hit and runs when losing, but all these things that you seem to dislike, I find a refreshing breath of originality. You never know what's gonna happen next but when it does, it always seems a step away from what years of shounens have pounded into our heads. The pace of the storytelling is totally wild, one minute, it seemed something epic was gonna happen and the next, something even more epic happens instead! Midnight defeated by nirvana Hoteye? Cobra getting a TKO on Natsu and then betrayed? Suddenly badass Jura vs Blaine? Hell fucking yes! It's not a WTF moment, it's a WTF-happy hour and I love it! I'm serious. If the OS arc could cook and get pregnant, I'd marry it.

I can totally predict evil Erza vs Ichiya and evil Wendy vs the rest of the good guys or something crazy and judging from this chapter, there's a chance I could be right! =P

I totally Agree!

This Chapter was amazing and Midnight isn't gone yet he still has his prayer and we haven't seen his actual power...

mjohner1

September 07, 2009, 11:25 PM

take a close look LOS he was defending. http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/151/18/ . he underestimated jura's power which most bad guys do in so many shounens. He never encountered this magic before so how could you gage it's strength without fighting the guy first.

LoS

September 07, 2009, 11:33 PM

What I'm saying is how could he not have witnessed Juras type of magic in their first foray against the light alliance? He might not have been able to judge the magnitude of Jura's power, bit he most certainly should know the type of magic he employs.

Kravmaga

September 07, 2009, 11:38 PM

How on earth is him showing his WTF face dealing with fighting? Blaine is calm cool and collected one moment the. The next he looks like a frightned school girl. When you are comletely evil and cut throat one moment you can't have such a terrified face the very next page, it is terribly inconsistent. For all the vast knowledge and intelligence Blaine has shown to possess he too often has huge brain farts and complete lapses in judgement.

How do you forget to seal Gerard, how do you not only forget just how strong Jura is, but also his magic and not prep yourself to defend against it? These are just a few in the ongoing long line of terrible displays of inconsistent storytelling.

If you really feel that way, maybe FT isn't for you. FT has made clear that it's not gonna be a cookie cutter shounen ever since the arc with the devil in the flute and it's only diverged from those terrible shounen cliches ever since for the better, imho.

You can think of the super-badasses in bleach or naruto whose retardedly broken powers allow them to take explosions and particle rays in the face without so much as flinching but imo, they are even more inconsistent for not taking full advantage of their godly powers and ending their stories in a chapters; instead, they talk too much, act like arrogant pricks, explain their powers to their enemies and pull BS moves to save their asses when the same BS move could have ended it before it even started.

This is way better. Bad guys who fear death, godly fighters who are still human enough bleed, good guys who fail due to rancor and poor leadership rather than lack of chakra... all these things are way more interesting than how sasuke prefers wrestling hand to hand with a giant instead of burning him to a crisp by looking at him, or why ulquiorra could have killed ichigo twenty times but didn't.

Fairy tail IS consistent; it may not be consistent with your stereotype of what it should be but instead, it's consistent with its own style and the spirit that it's created since it started.

What I'm saying is how could he not have witnessed Juras type of magic in their first foray against the light alliance? He might not have been able to judge the magnitude of Jura's power, bit he most certainly should know the type of magic he employs.

He was gone when Jura arrived:
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/135/09/
That's pretty much why the alliance survived.

mjohner1

September 07, 2009, 11:42 PM

becuase he retreated after aquiring wendy in chapter 135. all he did was use a big powerful magic and just left with wendy assuming they would all die. aka classic villain stuff. then rushes off the cave so wendy cann use her magic to revive gerard.

Krono

September 07, 2009, 11:45 PM

why does everyone call Midnight a guy, I always thought he was a girl, what is it like that Haku from naruto that looks like a woman but is a guy?

They call Midnight a guy because he is one. While he's been called by gender neutral terms since, when he was first introduced, he was specifically called a man. Lacking contradictions such as breasts, or being called by female terms, people assume the introduction was accurate.

Unlucky Boy

September 08, 2009, 12:58 AM

After reading the scanlation I'm more convinced that Blaine gave the other OS powers to answer their prayers since most of them had shown more than 1 kind of magic.

Cobra- poison dragon slayer, was given the ability to hear thoughts (up until now i thought hearing was his basic power cause the dragon lachryma is very expensive).
Hoteye- liquid ground, was given the ability to see through anything (probably so he could look for his losr brother).
Midnight- not sure what is his basic power but he did show 2, he can absorb/reflect magic and he is strong enough to throw buildings around (I guess that is his new power, as his prayer is probably never to loss a battle).
Racer- I guess his basic magic was about those motorcycles and he was given the power to slow other's sense of time.
Angel- I'm not sure about her, she only showed stellar spirit magic. So one possibility is that she wasnt even a mage before joining the OS, which I doubt. The other option in that Blaine gave her some of her keys (my bet is on Gemini). Thinking of her prayer "to fade into the sky like a real angel" makes me wonder if something of the sort happens if one mannages to collect all the golden keys, like having a new constellation in the sky named after you, becoming a spirit yourself or something.

I wonder why no line disappeared from Blaine's face today, Cobra's prayer sure had died.

My guess for next chapter- Blaine now recognizes Jura's power start to fight seriously. They'll be even till Jura will push him into the corner and Blaine decides to use nirvana on Natsu. Then Erza and Gerard will join.

And one more thing- look at the front page, is Jura shaving his legs? :blink

hongoasdf

September 08, 2009, 01:52 AM

I wonder why no line disappeared from Blaine's face today, Cobra's prayer sure had died.

Look at his face in page 7 and page 8. A line does disappear.

But that doesn't necesarily mean Cobra's dead. If I recall correctly, a line disappeared from his face when Angel was defeated, but she didn't die.

Unlucky Boy

September 08, 2009, 01:59 AM

Look at his face in page 7 and page 8. A line does disappear.

But that doesn't necesarily mean Cobra's dead. If I recall correctly, a line disappeared from his face when Angel was defeated, but she didn't die.

Oh I see now, and on page 13 I can see he now has only 1 line on each side so that means Midnight is defeated as well.
I really thought Midnight isnt finished yet but I guess I was wrong...but there are still so many open questions about him, I wonder what Mashima is planning for him.

And I didnt say Cobra died, I said his prayer did.
I'm sure he's still alive cause he was just shot in his shoulder and not somewhere vital.

Edit: on page 17 bottom left block it looks like Blaine still got 2 lines on his left cheek. Am I wrong or did Mashima had a mistake on page 13 where we can see both sides of Blaine's face and there's only 1 line on each.

alexlw92

September 08, 2009, 02:48 AM

you gotta listen to
"hide and seek" - imogen heap

when you read the chapter.

+1 to anyone who understands this

Lectro Volpi

September 08, 2009, 03:52 AM

I can´t believe myself, after some years to finally have an account (as much as I dislike dealing with mods or people with net "power" ask my dark past hahaha).

To be honest I´m really angry with this chapter, I´m angry at a chinese comic, my stomach hurts =/.

We all know how usually a shounen works: good guys wins and bad guys kicks the bucket. But please, give them some DECENCY.

At McAnime (one of the biggest Spanish talking anime forum) everyone is disappointed, we thought "okay Racer was a failure, Angel was defeated, Hoteye is good now and cobra is done for, but Midnight and Blaine will make up for that" Well...

What was that "Oración Seis most letal member" that Midnight was? It is lame to think that after running for his life he still has "something up his sleeve", well how lame of a man I am, I still have hope.

Being predictable does not make a manga bad, most of the mangas I enjoy are predictable yet, even with that, manages to amaze me. The key is the "climax" the struggle of the character the "I know he is going to win, but how?". But "Ohhh a giant squirrel riding a pig appeared it´s a good twist because I could not predict it, it´s not your classic shounen =D".

Blaine should learn from Sir Crocodile.

Solfy

September 08, 2009, 05:16 AM

Err... Speaking about Cobra, I guess his chances of joining FT in the future have just gone up again.

("I just wanted to hear the voice of my own friend".)

Sounds to me like "Oh noes, I have been beaten, but I wasn't really evil, my wish wasn't a bad thing !".

And I bet Natsu or someone from FT is gonna let out a speech like "FT is fun, you'd have a lot of friends".

Having another Dragon Slayer in FT, even if fake, would be awesome.

cleodux

September 08, 2009, 05:16 AM

I got a felling Cobra will become the good guy after this arc, with Natsu yelling and defend him from Blaine's selfish behaviour. Afterall his prayer is pretty pure >.< i am guessing he can not hear his snake pet's voice.

And i think Blaine is pretty weak in physical but good in powerfull spells (if he is powerfull i am sure he can destroys Cait Shelter from long time ago) afterall he used to be one of the magic researcher (magic council or whatever organisation he used to be in, and i am guessing again it was Cait Shelter)

Cait Shelter will be destroyed (it would be cool to have one of the light guild to be the casuality on this war good vs evil). Honestly when i see Midnight getting owned so easily by Hoteye, i was supprised that Mashima will pulling a stunt like this, but this is why i like Fairy Tail. Because it is diff with your average shounen. There must be a reason why Midnight got owned by only a couple of pages >.<

If Blaine is smart he will convert Hoteye again, so he can fights with Jura (pending fights!) if not, he will convert Natsu. And there is no point since Natsu virtually incapable to do anything while on vehicle

Dalyup!

September 08, 2009, 06:16 AM

Yeah, also seems to me that Cobra will become a good guy, maybe even part of Fairy Tail but doubtful. Since, you know, he's a dragon slayer, he has one of those nakama-loving traits just waiting to come out in him and he wasn't actually defeated by Natsu - just knocked out for a moment from his supersonic roar. Felt quite sad for him when I heard his prayer actually.

There's still the question of Natsu having Cobra's poison in him. Looks like Wendy might make a dramatic/sudden appearance.

Ero-Sanji

September 08, 2009, 11:24 AM

Edit: on page 17 bottom left block it looks like Blaine still got 2 lines on his left cheek. Am I wrong or did Mashima had a mistake on page 13 where we can see both sides of Blaine's face and there's only 1 line on each.

I think you're wrong in your statement about Midnight being defeated...

As far as I've understood I think that Cobra's power decreases with each member's defeat. Think about it when they all were "alive and well" he was extremely powerful, I think that each line represents his power level because he's always seen trembling when they disappear and he also can feel when one of his comrades loses.

kkck

September 08, 2009, 12:09 PM

Unlucky Boy

September 08, 2009, 01:29 PM

I think you're wrong in your statement about Midnight being defeated...

As far as I've understood I think that Cobra's power decreases with each member's defeat. Think about it when they all were "alive and well" he was extremely powerful, I think that each line represents his power level because he's always seen trembling when they disappear and he also can feel when one of his comrades loses.

I thoguht Midnight was defeated because another line disappeared (p13-you can see that there are only 2 of them) like every time a member was defeated. But you can see I later said that line came back (p17- now there are 3 again), Mashima probably forgot to draw that line on p13 or got confused with the sides of Blaine's face.
Anyway that line is still there at the end of the chapter and Blaine said himself that only half of the guild got defeated so Midnight should be fine for now.

And I wonder when Ichiya is going to do something... Is he really going to stay up there for the rest of his life?

hongoasdf

September 08, 2009, 01:44 PM

It is clear to me Midnight's not done yet. But if he was defetead, then it would mean all those chapters that Midnight was represented as a living cataclysm, would have been only for the sake of Hoteye defeating him, thus becoming the next powerhouse. If this is the case, Hoteye WILL be reverted to evil.

I believe Brain's gotten weaker (Maybe those lines do represent his power, after all), that's why Jura was able to own him so easily. Don't get me wrong, though, I always thought Jura was stronger than any individual member of OS, but if Brain had been at full power, it may not have been so easy for Jura to blow him away.

Anyways, Brain's supposed to be the brain of OS (No pun intended), but he hasn't proven much intellectual skill. I mean, he didn't foresee the slim possibility that Gerard would turn agaisnt him (Well, that's forgivable, there was no way you could have known that, no matter how smart you are), but what surpised me the most is that if there's a group of people annihilating your comrades/allies/puppets, and you happen to run into that group of people, at the very least you raise your guard and expect some hostility, you don't waste time chatting with them.

Well, as someone said, Brain's proven to be quite a "human" bad guy, comitting all sort of mistakes. I guess that makes him a more interesting villain.

Evil3ye

September 08, 2009, 03:13 PM

oh man, so disappointing that Midnight was taken out so easily, tho I always believed that Hoteye is pretty strong, too.

But personally I do not think Midnight will have his revenge and come back into the battle. It's clearly that the focus is on Brain now, and it looks like he's already in trouble as well...

I predict the next few chapters (after next week) will be more like Alliance vs time than Alliance vs Oracion :notrust

Aikidoka

September 08, 2009, 07:01 PM

I can´t believe myself, after some years to finally have an account (as much as I dislike dealing with mods or people with net "power").

To be honest I´m really angry with this chapter, I´m angry at a chinese comic, my stomach hurts =/.

We all know how usually a shounen works: good guys wins and bad guys kicks the bucket. But please, give them some DECENCY.

At McAnime (one of the biggest Spanish talking anime forum) everyone is disappointed, we thought "okay Racer was a failure, Angel was defeated, Hoteye is good now and cobra is done for, but Midnight and Blaine will make up for that" Well...

What was that "Oración Seis most letal member" that Midnight was? It is lame to think that after running for his life he still has "something up his sleeve", well how lame of a man I am, I still have hope.

Being predictable does not make a manga bad, most of the mangas I enjoy are predictable yet, even with that, manages to amaze me. The key is the "climax" the struggle of the character the "I know he is going to win, but how?". But "Ohhh a giant squirrel riding a pig appeared it´s a good twist because I could not predict it, it´s not your classic shounen =D".

Blaine should learn from Sir Crocodile.
I'm surprised so many people are overreacting about this chapter. Do you all seriously think Blaine and Midnight are done for?

It's just a cliffhanger. Kubo (in Bleach) employs these all the time. One chapter the good guy throws an attack and seems to win, next chapter bad guy survives and dishes out their attack, good guy seems to lose but comes back the next chapter, etc.

IMO this is just one of these. So Midnight and Blaine had a bad start. Blaine underestimated his enemy and Midnight is temporarily being overwhelmed. But does that mean they're gone for good? Of course not.

What I dislike is villains winning the whole battle until the end when the good guys make a comeback. IMO fights should be even, with the tables turning constantly as the good guys and bad guys try to one-up each other...one of them finally keeping the tables turned and winning. I liked this chapter, not just because it was unexpected (still freaking out over strong Hoteye), but because it fits with my ideal image of a battle.

And sorry for quoting you Lectro Volpi, I wasn't posting the above in answer to just you but to agree with one of your points. It's not lame at all, I hope Midnight turns out to be badass as well, he certainly looks like it.

I also agree with Kravmaga, I love FT for its breaking manga stereotypes. Take Erza for example, she's fanservicey like all other female characters in manga, but she's also a strong woman and a strong character. Her fanservice moments don't detract from or objectify her, you can still respect her as a real character with her own background and weaknesses and strengths.

I'd put Mashima on the same liberal level as Oda (One Piece)...they're both pioneers imo. All that's left is to throw in some ugly characters and they're set.

Lectro Volpi

September 08, 2009, 11:08 PM

I'm surprised so many people are overreacting about this chapter. Do you all seriously think Blaine and Midnight are done for?

It's just a cliffhanger. Kubo (in Bleach) employs these all the time. One chapter the good guy throws an attack and seems to win, next chapter bad guy survives and dishes out their attack, good guy seems to lose but comes back the next chapter, etc.

IMO this is just one of these. So Midnight and Blaine had a bad start. Blaine underestimated his enemy and Midnight is temporarily being overwhelmed. But does that mean they're gone for good? Of course not.

What I dislike is villains winning the whole battle until the end when the good guys make a comeback. IMO fights should be even, with the tables turning constantly as the good guys and bad guys try to one-up each other...one of them finally keeping the tables turned and winning. I liked this chapter, not just because it was unexpected (still freaking out over strong Hoteye), but because it fits with my ideal image of a battle.

And sorry for quoting you Lectro Volpi, I wasn't posting the above in answer to just you but to agree with one of your points. It's not lame at all, I hope Midnight turns out to be badass as well, he certainly looks like it.

I also agree with Kravmaga, I love FT for its breaking manga stereotypes. Take Erza for example, she's fanservicey like all other female characters in manga, but she's also a strong woman and a strong character. Her fanservice moments don't detract from or objectify her, you can still respect her as a real character with her own background and weaknesses and strengths.

I'd put Mashima on the same liberal level as Oda (One Piece)...they're both pioneers imo. All that's left is to throw in some ugly characters and they're set.

Okay Mr. Aikidoka Let´s get this done quickly.

After running for his life the only thing IMO that can save Midnight is to become mentally instable out of fear of being disposed.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_J6T1VnueenM/SqMK69-OdDI/AAAAAAAADVw/Df6vF_zaO_4/s1600-h/canaan_10_03.jpg

As for Blaine... being the leader of the OS, one of the "strongest" dark guilds he should be more confident on his abilities, being a leader means to be prepared or not? the way Mashima treaters him looks to me like character bashing.

Have a nice night.

kazille

September 08, 2009, 11:48 PM

mE THINKS that Jura is gonna loose the battle with Blaine.. because of the wound that was given to him by Gemini. It's just the temporary perfume magic of Ochiya that's keeping him going.

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/135/10/

mjohner1

September 09, 2009, 01:15 AM

first off lectro volpi use spellcheck or try taking an english class. If you don't like it stop reading it you emo. you only joined the board to bash this chapter and manga. quit you're emoness and go back to reading the cliche shounen.

FluffBall

September 09, 2009, 02:21 AM

i haven't read the other comments so excuse me if i bring anything up that's already been said but in the previous chapters they made midnight look really strong so why in the world would he be defeated that easily its just weird.

Evil3ye

September 09, 2009, 03:37 AM

Ok, let's say Midnight is not defeated yet but just kid around with Hoteye. What would he be good for after this fight? As supporting actor in his father's battle? Well, maybe..

I'd really like to see what ability Midnight has, so I would not mind seeing him in an other fight, but actually I won't be surprised as well, if he's already junked :darn

bittman

September 09, 2009, 05:44 AM

Kravmaga

September 09, 2009, 02:15 PM

Okay Mr. Aikidoka Let´s get this done quickly.

After running for his life the only thing IMO that can save Midnight is to become mentally instable due to the fear of being disposed.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_J6T1VnueenM/SqMK69-OdDI/AAAAAAAADVw/Df6vF_zaO_4/s1600-h/canaan_10_03.jpg

As for Blaine... being the leader of the OS, one of the "strongest" dark guilds he should be more confident on his abilities, being a leader means to be prepared or not? the way Mashima treaters him is like character bashing (as being a fanboy over Jeral/gerard) and that´s why he´s a long way to go to be like Oda.

Have a nice night.

I respect your opinion and you aren't the only one who feels this way but you're arguing over a subjective point of view and not only will you probably fail to change anyone's mind here but we probably also have no chance at changing yours. That said I'll entertain your invitation to refutation.

Blaine being surprised had little to do with Mashima bashing or being a fanboy as you suggest (face it, these terms have no relevance over the author). He's built a world where characters are human, and therefore fragile, prone to error and susceptible to their fear. Is that too hard to believe? Even Jura, one of the 10 strongest in the land was taken down by a simple stab in the stomach, just as easily as Blaine was surprised by him. As for midnight, his effeminate build, his spiky hair, his pointless smack talk and massive overhype, all together he was a huge cliche waiting to happen, except it didn't happen and it turned into a pleasant reminder that I'm reading FT, not some boring shounen.

Now, if I were to mirror your statement, I could say that the way Oda overuses hype on his endless stream of characters as a substitute for actual creativity to flesh out any past the stage where they are more than just a character built around a single idea and creates characters who can endlessly wail on one another without taking any damage or stopping their pointless taunting in order to keep his audience guessing on whose favorite could beat up whose, all while steering away from any conflict where both sides have an equal chance, is little different from the business plan of soap operas, they hook you on more of the same every week and delivers exactly that in quantities which will always have you running back the next week to read exactly what you knew you'd get without being satisfied, more of the same, just on a little bigger scale and with new faces. That doesn't sound very fair, does it? Just like blaming FT's plotline for not abiding by these stereotypes isn't fair either.

The only thing Mashima has in common with Oda is his art style (well somewhat, ymmv on this one, I think Oda's character designs are superior). He's not trying to imitate him, nor is he trying to compete with him, he's creating his own thing all by himself which I happen to believe is something that was missing and highly needed from the world of mainstream shounen mangas. FT's popularity has been climbing up ever since I discovered it and while I can't represent the opinion of its targeted audience, its success must mean that Mashima's doing something right. Maybe you'll just have to move on to the fact that if you truly don't like what you're seeing, then it isn't intended for you. After all, there's plenty of things to read elsewhere.

pirateninjahunter

September 09, 2009, 03:18 PM

Kravmaga, I like what you said.

Humans are indeed fragile and prone to error. Maybe that is really what Mashima wants to show us. I can't remember other bad guys being afraid as Brain is. But it would be repetitive if each one of the bad guys scream in fear during their battles. Midnight is Brain's daughter so, maybe they both are fragile, and that is why they are both showing fear of defeat.

I keep reading fairy tail, but IMO its is actually the least good of the mangas that I read. What keeps me reading is the fact that I am curious about what the other leaders of dark guilds plan on doing and also what happened to the dragons.

Solfy

September 09, 2009, 05:38 PM

I couldn't agree more with the "Fairy Tail is breaking the shonen stereotypes" fact. That chapter was really, really awesome. People call it WTF 'cause they're just used to the usual shonen action @ Super Strong inhuman villains who will kick the butt of the good guys until the main character go Berserk / use some lame technique and kill 'em all.

That's easily the best shonen I've ever read.

Aikidoka

September 09, 2009, 05:53 PM

As for Blaine... being the leader of the OS, one of the "strongest" dark guilds he should be more confident on his abilities, being a leader means to be prepared or not? the way Mashima treaters him is like character bashing (as being a fanboy over Jeral/gerard) and that´s why he´s a long way to go to be like Oda.

Have a nice night.
I would respond but Kravmaga already did that, and did a way better job than I would've done. I do want to explain one of my points though -- I like Oda, he's my favorite mangaka. And although Mashima isn't at the same level of storytelling skill that Oda is, he is breaking stereotypes just as much as Oda is -- which is why I compared them. I didn't imply that they were equal in terms of storytelling but that they were equal when you look at the ideas they incorporate -- a strong female character like Erza, and an okama like Bon Clay being portrayed in a positive light, not just for comedy. That's what I meant. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

Your other points, my refutations have pretty much been stated by Kravmaga and the others -- thanks guys.

Rule of Shonen: Until a character with a name has their full powers shown and explained they aren't done for.

So on that note, see you next week Midnight.
One of the reasons why I'm not worried about Hoteye's temporary advantage. There's also the Law of Conservation of Detail, Midnight has to serve some significant role in the arc.

I respect your opinion and you aren't the only one who feels this way but you're arguing over a subjective point of view and not only will you probably fail to change anyone's mind here but we probably also have no chance at changing yours. That said I'll entertain your invitation to refutation.

Blaine being surprised had little to do with Mashima bashing or being a fanboy as you suggest (face it, these terms have no relevance over the author). He's built a world where characters are human, and therefore fragile, prone to error and susceptible to their fear. Is that too hard to believe? Even Jura, one of the 10 strongest in the land was taken down by a simple stab in the stomach, just as easily as Blaine was surprised by him. As for midnight, his effeminate build, his spiky hair, his pointless smack talk and massive overhype, all together he was a huge cliche waiting to happen, except it didn't happen and it turned into a pleasant reminder that I'm reading FT, not some boring shounen.

Now, if I were to mirror your statement, I could say that the way Oda overuses hype on his endless stream of characters as a substitute for actual creativity to flesh out any past the stage where they are more than just a character built around a single idea and creates characters who can endlessly wail on one another without taking any damage or stopping their pointless taunting in order to keep his audience guessing on whose favorite could beat up whose, all while steering away from any conflict where both sides have an equal chance, is little different from the business plan of soap operas, they hook you on more of the same every week and delivers exactly that in quantities which will always have you running back the next week to read exactly what you knew you'd get without being satisfied, more of the same, just on a little bigger scale and with new faces. That doesn't sound very fair, does it? Just like blaming FT's plotline for not abiding by these stereotypes isn't fair either.

The only thing Mashima has in common with Oda is his art style (well somewhat, ymmv on this one, I think Oda's character designs are superior). He's not trying to imitate him, nor is he trying to compete with him, he's creating his own thing all by himself which I happen to believe is something that was missing and highly needed from the world of mainstream shounen mangas. FT's popularity has been climbing up ever since I discovered it and while I can't represent the opinion of its targeted audience, its success must mean that Mashima's doing something right. Maybe you'll just have to move on to the fact that if you truly don't like what you're seeing, then it isn't intended for you. After all, there's plenty of things to read elsewhere.
I agree -- I love the way the tables constantly turn in FT fights, like I said a page ago. IMO it's dumb to always have the bad guys almost win before the good guys make a comeback at the end. I'd repeat what I said about Bleach...but I guess you've seen my post already.

pirateninjahunter

September 09, 2009, 07:08 PM

My prediction for the next chapter is:
1- Midnight will show his technique.
2- Midnight will show Hoteye's technique's weakpoint.
3- Blaine will be helped by Midnight.

The old geezer, I want to know who he is. that is another thing that I want to know! He is supposed to be the strongest in Fairy Tail.

I do not usually pay attention to the mangaka's techniques. It is just that there are manga that I like and manga that I do not like.

But if you want manga that are not predictable then Seinen's would be the best option. Even the main characters die in Seinen manga.

kazille

September 10, 2009, 01:46 AM

Midnight is not defeated yet.. why?

read this http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/141/20/

there's a reason why he/she said that..

kkck

September 10, 2009, 01:50 AM

There is no way midnight is defeated yet. Not only we have not seen the guy fight but we have no idea of what his abilities are. It is too early to rule him out. It is possible he will get his moment to shine later on though.

Unlucky Boy

September 10, 2009, 02:21 AM

Midnight is not defeated yet.. why?

read this http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/141/20/

there's a reason why he/she said that..

Now that you mention it, I always thought something is going to happen to him on midnight.
The sun was setting when Natsu and Cobra began fighting so there are still a few hours to go before midnight falls. Maybe now everyone is going to focus on the battle with Blaine and then suddenly Midnight will return.

Lectro Volpi

September 10, 2009, 04:53 AM

Last post guys, bear with me.

first off lectro volpi use spellcheck or try taking an english class. If you don't like it stop reading it you emo. you only joined the board to bash this chapter and manga. quit you're emoness and go back to reading the cliche shounen.

Sorry Mr. mojon (do not google it, it´s just your name sounds like that; careful at Spanish talking sites) I can´t take your comments seriously but thanks anyway for pointing my mistakes; helps a lot.

The best thing of an account for me is the "thanks" button. I´m grateful to a lot of normal user workers here and with this I can finally express it.

Mr. Aikidoka´s post

Thanks for the reply; sorry for not getting you about Oda.

My point is: the bad guys needs to recover.

Mr. Krav, it´s just they way you replied Mr. LoS and me that gave me that impression. The fact that you disliked a chapter does not mean it´s time to drop the manga.

Not trying to change anything, it´s a mere opinion that will get lost.

Sounds dumb to like something just for being straight (don´t get me wrong, I got tired too of the same things on every manga like harem ones when you know it´s not going to end in anything clear), but to like something just because it simply goes random is dumb too, just think about it.

And kudos to Mr/Miss Kazille for the amazing theory back there, sounds pretty plausible and maybe I´m just getting carried too much!

-I will not reply anymore, not wanting to pull anything, be at ease.

-I´ll be reading you guys as always, best of luck, Bye.

exacta

September 10, 2009, 02:39 PM

Rule of Shonen: Until a character with a name has their full powers shown and explained they aren't done for.

So on that note, see you next week Midnight.

Otherwise, Jura v Blaine huh? I still expect Nirvana to be used on at least one of the good guys, because we're running out of villains atm and still have practically all the heroes. Dark Natsu would be good, Dark Erza I feel would be better for plot though since she is most likely the strongest there and then Natsu, Gray and Gerard can team her or something.

Anyway, I want next week to have a dark-somebody. If it's just Midnight coming back and Blaine showing off powers this arc might be done before it even feels dramatic enough.

Also, Cobra's prayer was a bit sad. I expect we'll see him again.

Thought it was dumb how Blaine offed Cobra. After all, Cobra didn't lose, and Natsu was getting completely overwhelmed until he just exploited Cobra's hearing....I guess Cobra will be back. He does look alot like Shuda.

Anyways, I honestly don't see how FT breaks ALOT of stereotypes......it gives in to alot of them actually, and Mashima fanservices so many girls in this manga, although some of them are important.I wouldn't put the current arc on par with One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, FMA, etc. I've been kinda disappointed with this arc. And its weird that Midnight is getting owned before we even get to see what her power is....but Midnights definitely not defeated. By the way, is Midnight a guy or a girl?

Gustmin

September 10, 2009, 03:13 PM

I think midnight will make a comeback , he hasn't even shown his power and his prayer is still unknown , maybe his codename has something to do with his power

Millia

September 10, 2009, 07:20 PM

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Kravmaga

September 11, 2009, 02:39 AM

Whatever makes you happy Mr. Krav; after enjoying 150 chapters it turns out that this is not for me; good thing this does not happen in One Piece, I mean, if I don´t like chapter 557 It simply means that it is not for me, and to stop reading after 556 chapters sounds horrible... genius, it´s just a bad taste of a chapter.

Not trying to change anything, it´s a mere opinion that will get lost.

Easy there. No need to get snarky, it's not like I was replying to you to be cute, I have no way to know whether or not you enjoyed the content of 150 or so chapters and yet that was completely overshadowed by whatever was of bad taste to you in this latest one. My comment was just an opinion, that's been made quite clear.

Sounds dumb to like something just for being straight (don´t get me wrong, I got tired too of the same things on every manga like harem ones when you know it´s not going to end in anything clear), but to like something just because it simply goes random is dumb too, just think about it.

And kudos to Mr/Miss Kazille for the amazing theory back there, sounds pretty plausible!

-I will not reply anymore, not wanting to pull anything, be at ease.

-I´ll be reading you guys as always, best of luck, Bye.

You know, you really don't need to do that. Just because you don't agree with some on this board doesn't mean it's somehow hostile to you; I respect everyone's opinion however antipodal of mine they are and I'd feel like the lowest form of trash on the internet if I were to give the impression that you weren't welcomed just because I had more corroboration than you. If I did, I'm sorry.
Feel free to share your opinion here anytime you want; this board could use more people and lively discussions.

kazille

September 11, 2009, 04:11 AM

Richards prayer is to find his long lost brother. :P

Yes, Midnight will have a comeback.

kkck

September 11, 2009, 08:23 AM

Richards prayer is to find his long lost brother. :P

Yes, Midnight will have a comeback.

Midnight will make comebacks until he says his prayer. I bet his prayer will be "To be daddy's little girl" even though he is a dude.:p

Krono

September 11, 2009, 11:01 AM

You know, it just occurred to me that two chapter ago Hoteye said that Brain would be vulnerable to attack while he was controlling the city. Specifically he said:

"Hoteye: Brain must be directing the city from the throne room in its very centre. // Whilst he is controlling the city, he cannot use any other magic. This is our chance to take him down."

The city is still moving. Anyone care to bet that's impairing Brain at the moment?

kkck

September 11, 2009, 12:26 PM

I would think nirvana is in auto pilot and he can move around freely at the moment. Wonder why brain is going after the cait shelter guild... maybe he was a part of it at some point....

Krono

September 11, 2009, 12:50 PM

I would think nirvana is in auto pilot and he can move around freely at the moment. Wonder why brain is going after the cait shelter guild... maybe he was a part of it at some point....

That occurred to me as well, but I'd think that if Brain could hit cruise control at any time, Hoteye wouldn't see him as being so vulnerable while controling the city.

imamess

September 11, 2009, 03:13 PM

If his magic is steering it or somehow controlling it, even if there was an autopilot, I'm sure diverting his energy would make him weaker.

It's not like this is the first time he's been surprised, either. He strikes me as someone who's susceptible to surprise attacks, since he can't see the magic coming. However, once he sees and understands the magic, his ability on cancel it or counter it would be a pretty difficult obstacle.

Avi

September 11, 2009, 08:39 PM

fg7dragon

September 14, 2009, 09:19 AM

The Fairy Tail RAWs and Scanlations have been removed from MangaHelpers.
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1564239#post1564239

pirateninjahunter

September 14, 2009, 12:58 PM

Maybe the reason why Blaine is heading towards Cait Shelter is that at some point the former guild leader of Cait shelter chose the Tranny Angel as his/her successor instead of Blaine.

Avi

September 14, 2009, 03:52 PM

The Fairy Tail RAWs and Scanlations have been removed from MangaHelpers.
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1564239#post1564239

Ouch. How am I going to read my FT now? Am I actually going to have to BUY IT?! :o

:tem Hopefully we get international releases SOON.

Chocolove77

September 14, 2009, 04:05 PM

About Brain's lines, did you notice this?
One line on each side of his head:
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/151/13/
and fews pages later...
http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/151/17/
one line is back!

From what I've seen, the line which reappeared would be "Midnight's line" by that I mean it is the line which disapeared after Midnight got owned.
Mashima's mistake or a clue on a hypotetical midnight's return?

tommax

September 14, 2009, 08:55 PM

Cobra was about to finish off Natsu... So Cobra won the match !

what are you guys talking about?? natsu has a real drangon power inside!! there was no way he was going to lose against that half-dragon lacryma guy… :rant
true he was actually poisoned…but in the end he won, end of the story: natsu got advantage of his power to let him "hear" what was inside of him: A FREAKING HUGE DRANGON!! :yelling
:yourock NATSU RULES :yourock

Chocolove77

September 14, 2009, 09:13 PM

natsu got advantage of his power to let him "hear" what was inside of him: A FREAKING HUGE DRANGON!!k

After what Cobra was able to get up to give Natsu the finishing blow.

I don't get it, in what universe did Natsu win against Cobra? Who was the last man standing in the end? From what I've seen, it was Cobra and Natsu was badly weakened by poison and his vehicule disease. Ask yourself what would have happened if Brain didn't get involved.

Solfy

September 15, 2009, 12:16 PM

Natsu really was about to lose, there's no questionning that.

Lee-tyme7

September 15, 2009, 06:03 PM

I can say that Natsu has no answer for Cobra's hearing ability it was only a coincidence that Natsu scream out of anger and frustration that took out Cobra's hearing. (I love that part by the way) Now if the poison haven't effected both Natsu and Happy, Natsu would of beaten Cobra already.
We've been seeing Natsu variation of attacks through out his fights and I'm very impress by all of them. He has already shown his dragon fire breath, wing attack, his fire of emotion, (lol) the Ultimate Dragon Slayer attacks which took out Luxus by far one to the best moves I've seen and now the dragon roar. what's next for Natsu? I wanna see him do a dragon slayer armor type to protect him from any attacks or poison like a real dragon scales. That would be awsome!

Pirulito

September 16, 2009, 10:31 AM

Raw Paradise released FT 152

Evil3ye

September 16, 2009, 11:34 AM

How about a link?
Why is the chapter not released yet anyway :notrust

mjohner1

September 16, 2009, 12:05 PM

the chapter is going to be late because the manga company was cracking down on sites posting the original material. anyway to all those people who thought midnight was done wrong again.

hash899

September 16, 2009, 01:06 PM

here is the chapter scanlated by us, I Eat Manga:

http://ieatsoul.com/manga-releases/fairy-tail-152/

LoS

September 16, 2009, 03:09 PM

I want to comment on the next chapter, but just not in this thread. Quick someone create a new thread or pm a mod.

bittman

September 16, 2009, 06:14 PM

So like...epic chapter.

Where do I begin to comment? On Midnight's sudden turn-around? Richard's defeat? Blaine v Jura? Blaine's prayer? Natsu on a vehicle? Nirvana's true form?

Basically, this chapter made up for the last couple feeling a bit disappointing but really setting up the bad guys.

That said, Blaine was disappointing, I thought he'd at least be equal to Jura.

Chocolove77

September 16, 2009, 06:50 PM

What about Nirvana's true form?

I agree with you about Brain bittman. When I finished reading the chapter I couldn't help but think: "Damn, Brain was such a weakling in the end!" Despite the fact that Jura is a holy mage and therefore very powerful and all, I'm really disappointed. I mean Brain didn't worry Jura for even a second, he was completely overwhelmed from the beginning to the end. It must be the most one sided fight I've ever seen in FT!
And the way Midnight beats his enemies... So far he has one-shot every guy he was up against. He has a really fearsome power and an instant regeneration abilty... talk about hax!
Despite that, now it's Midnight against the rest of the world. He is clearly outnumbered with Erza, Gerard, Jura, Ichiya? Wendy, who is a healer and Natsu, who's back on his feet against him.

exacta

September 16, 2009, 07:31 PM

Ehhh.....I thought this chapter was pretty disappointing too. I knew there was no way Midnight would lose, but Brain was awful. He got defeated so fast.....his defeat took less than half the chapter. Jura did look badass though. But the whole Midnight thing just seems really flat....

Most of the Oracion Seis have been pretty disappointing. Especially Blaine. They were definitely overhyped during their first appearance. And many of the new guild members proved kinda useless in this arc. And people complain about the way Kubo treats his antagonists lol. Oh well. Perhaps the reason for why they 're targeting Cait Shelter will redeem this arc for me.....

Castriota

September 16, 2009, 07:38 PM

hmm do you think midnights magic is taking all kinds of damage from his opponents, meanwhile leaving them unscathed and then just like switching? if you get what i mean. they get hit with all the damage they caused on him in an instant and then their bodies have no damage therefore making him untouched. i dunno just a dumb theory.

i was so excited whenever wendy like cured natsu's vehicle sickness. its about freakin time he can stand being on a vehicle.

oh yeah, sorry if someone already said this theory about midnight. didn't bother to look.

LoS

September 16, 2009, 07:53 PM

Well yes I agree Blaine was very poorly developed.

I am shocked no one is talking about what Blaine whispered, if all the OS go down "he" will awaken. Who is the he?

And if magic can not harm Midnight, then will it be as simple as pure brute/physical attacks being his weakness? I am happy Midnight is the bad ass I had hoped for though.

And next weeks title sounds very frightening, if Midnight is a punitive army all by himself, then those light guild characters still standing are in a world of trouble.

bittman

September 16, 2009, 08:00 PM

Yeah LoS, when I first read through it I thought all his words referred to midnight.

Yet that said, for all Six Prayers to go down, Midnight would also need to lose, meaning "he" is someone different. Perhaps the "he" is within Blaine or Midnight, dual personality standard thing, but perhaps it'll be some random new guy.

Random new guy would be nice to set up a future antagonist or something, though I expect whoever "he" is will be the true final battle of this arc, though Midnight looks to be that at the moment.

Also, if Midnight is truly controlling Nirvana, would he be able to make a Dark Natsu? Was Blaine dragging Natsu to Midnight's location to do that?

Chocolove77

September 16, 2009, 08:18 PM

In a way, every prayer already disappeared at some point. Midnight's prayer disappeared in the previous chapter when he lost to Hoteye but it reappeared shortly after.

hongoasdf

September 16, 2009, 08:18 PM

The "he" Blaine mentioned is most likely the real leader of OS, who controled the all from the shadows... or something like that.

And of course, as all mysterious characters in this manga, he'll turn out to be another Gerard Clone.

Aikidoka

September 16, 2009, 08:21 PM

I'm not surprised Midnight made a comeback, it was just a cliffhanger and people who took one chapter to mean the end of a fight were jumping the gun.

I am surprised though that Blaine was defeated so easily, but I'm not complaining -- it's the author's choice, and besides, that just shows how strong the Ten Mages are.

Ero-Sanji

September 16, 2009, 11:25 PM

People, people please do not forget that Jura is on the same level as Makarov. Remember how easily he defeated Jose, well it's the same here Jura is one of the top 10 Mages in this part of the world.

Now as for midnight, In the end it will come down to him defeating everybody one by one or he will manage to change the others e.g Dark Natsu or Erza or even scarier dark Jura...

LoS

September 16, 2009, 11:55 PM

@hongoasdf:

you beat me to it, I just hopped on here to say the Gerrard bit. But my thought is that it will be the Gerrard currently there, and if that happens, I swear I will probably drop this manga for awhile.

and

@Ero-Sanji:

Jura himself said he is no where near Makarov's power level. Granted Jura is incredibly strong, but all they share is their title per Jura himself, not their strength. Jura could have very well been being modest, but I would say it is safe to assume Makarov is easily stronger than Jura.

bittman

September 17, 2009, 12:22 AM

To note Ero-Sanji: Jose was also one of those ten holy mages.

And Marakov was beaten by the air subordinate before that.

That said, Jura could have been quite modest, though Marakov is quite possibly the strongest around of the ten holy mages.

Though how many of the top ten do we have confirmed?
Sieg (removed)
Urtear (probably removed)
Marakov
Jose (possibly removed)
Jura

Am I missing any other "definite" Ten Holy Mages? I'm assuming the council was not all of the top ten though. If so...that's actually quite a small list we've got there...

Unlucky Boy

September 17, 2009, 12:59 AM

"that person" Blaine talks about, I think it's the one who answered the OS's prayers, and maybe he's the one who told Braine to attack Cait Shelter.

About who this person can be ,2 names are coming to my mind- one is Anima, since it's so mysterious and Gerard being there as well.
The second, since the only person we know from CS is Wendy, that person might be connected to her so I thought maybe it could be Grandine? He or she sounds like the meddeling type. Maybe Grandine wanted to test Wendy's power / make her meet Natsu...I dont know...

FluffBall

September 17, 2009, 02:02 AM

Ustegius

September 17, 2009, 03:49 AM

Nice chapter. Jura was cool. And Midnight seems to be a very sinister figure.

About 'that person', only name that pops into my head is Zereff, but most likely its not him. That would be pretty stupid actually.

kazille

September 17, 2009, 03:50 AM

"He" = Gerald

Evil3ye

September 17, 2009, 06:19 PM

OK, Midnight is the final Oracion villain then.. surprise surprise.. not that I've seen it coming, but its not that surprising either..

I'm actually pretty bored from this arc.. cant wait until Natsu beats him, so that we can move on already.. to someone more interesting, who knows.. maybe Urtear finally?

Only thing that I want to know is, whats going to happen with Gerald after this arc. Will Elza take him with her to Fairy Tail, like Luvia and Gazille, or is he will he leave all alone and discover the world or sth, like all her other mates?

street_san

September 17, 2009, 09:06 PM

People, people please do not forget that Jura is on the same level as Makarov. Remember how easily he defeated Jose, well it's the same here Jura is one of the top 10 Mages in this part of the world.

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/133/15/

There you go buddy xD

pirateninjahunter

September 17, 2009, 11:11 PM

About who this person can be ,2 names are coming to my mind- one is Anima, since it's so mysterious and Gerard being there as well.

Who is Anima? Is there a link to Anima?

I still think that cait shelter is the target because of the angelic Tranny! He did something to Brain before, but if brain follows orders, than maybe the one who chose the target is brain's boss!

Unlucky Boy

September 18, 2009, 01:55 AM

Who is Anima? Is there a link to Anima?

I still think that cait shelter is the target because of the angelic Tranny! He did something to Brain before, but if brain follows orders, than maybe the one who chose the target is brain's boss!

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/145/14/

and about the "angelic tranny" (lol), that's Bob the guild master of Blue Pegasus, not Cait Shelter. We dont really know anyone from CS but Wendy and Charle...

Gustmin

September 18, 2009, 05:07 AM

anima = pieces
thats why you have gerard and mistgun
they all are part of something bigger

Solfy

September 18, 2009, 05:47 AM

Oh my, that chapter was such a disappointment... So Midnight's still on. Yucks, really can't bear him. I hope he gets defeated asap, so we can see who's the "he" Brain's talking about.

pirateninjahunter

September 18, 2009, 08:00 AM

I think that I found an error in FT!
Do you remember when Racer went to pick Gerard's coffin? He went really far away and came back in a matter of seconds. Because he was really fast.
But we later discover that he actually isn't fast. His magic only make the people inside a certain radius slower. So, finally, I want to say is that he would not be able to go that far and come back so fast, because he is not fast himself!!!

Yeah, the OS were really weak!

Gustmin

September 18, 2009, 11:33 AM

Urtear

September 18, 2009, 11:46 PM

Kravmaga

September 19, 2009, 02:03 AM

I think the "he" is obviously Zeref
I believe that OS were trying to get Nirvana so they could awaken Zeref
But it was just a ploy, like how Urtear tricked Gerard into making the tower of paradise, I think that Grimoire Heart (the dark guild Urtear belongs to) tricked OS into getting Nirvana so they could get some of the keys to Zeref's seal and the good guilds wouldnt notice because theyd be preoccupied with the OS

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/131/08/

While I also think "he" might be zeref, I don't think OS' goal was actually to awaken him on purpose.
The way I see it, everytime one of the OS members falls, and Blaine loses a line, they mutter or think something like "no! my prayer!"

These prayers must be some kind of pact made with zeref or whoever it really is, that in exchange for a huge powerup, they will give up their dream or soul to fuel his revival if they are ever defeated... Kinda like a deal with the devil, except they actually got a pretty good deal any way you see it.

kkck

September 19, 2009, 11:51 AM

Chocolove77

September 19, 2009, 01:08 PM

While I also think "he" might be zeref, I don't think OS' goal was actually to awaken him on purpose.
The way I see it, everytime one of the OS members falls, and Blaine loses a line, they mutter or think something like "no! my prayer!"

These prayers must be some kind of pact made with zeref or whoever it really is, that in exchange for a huge powerup, they will give up their dream or soul to fuel his revival if they are ever defeated... Kinda like a deal with the devil, except they actually got a pretty good deal any way you see it.

Why would all the lines be on Blaine then? Why don't each one of them have one line, which would represent their prayer, on their body? That or all the lines should be on the person they made a pact with.
I has always been clear to me that Blaine is the person oracion seis made a pact with and it's the reason thoses lines appear on his body. Not to mention that Blaine still has many lines on his face, arms and hands and we don't know what they represent.

Now that you mention it, the ressemblance between Hades and Jose is striking on these pics
But their chin is different, Jose's chin is straight, while Hades's is a bit forward-bended.
Apart from that, same nose, same mustache, same evil grin.
I just noticed that during the scene with Hades and Urtear there are in fact two other characters who take part in the conversation. Can't believe I missed that!

Kravmaga

September 19, 2009, 10:08 PM

Why would all the lines be on Blaine then? Why don't each one of them have one line, which would represent their prayer, on their body? That or all the lines should be on the person they made a pact with.
I has always been clear to me that Blaine is the person oracion seis made a pact with and it's the reason thoses lines appear on his body. Not to mention that Blaine still has many lines on his face, arms and hands and we don't know what they represent.

Now that you mention it, the ressemblance between Hades and Jose is striking on these pics
But their chin is different, Jose's chin is straight, while Hades's is a bit forward-bended.
Apart from that, same nose, same mustache, same evil grin.
I just noticed that during the scene with Hades and Urtear there are in fact two other characters who take part in the conversation. Can't believe I missed that!

Maybe because Blaine's the only one who's aware of the deal, as in Blaine told the OS members that they'd get supped up but didn't mention anything about the fine print.
Remember, none of the OS muttered anything about "him" when they went down. They all only thought about their own prayer...
Besides, that's a bunch of details that wouldn't mean much if it were really the case.

To think about it, there's actually a lot going on at the moment in FT.