Kisame - KillerBee

[Er1x0n]

Okey, here we go:

Many of you seem to think that KB will survive the battle with Kisame. I beg to differ. This is why;

1. In the battle againts Sasuke, we where shown what KB is capable of. We now know that KB is very strong. We do not know how strong Kisame is, thus by killing KB this fight will be a perfect opportunity to show of Kisame's strength. The sole reason this fight gonna' happen is to hype up Kisame for the inevitable meeting with Gai/Lee/Suigetsu.

2. Most likely, as the story progresses there will only be one host left. That is Naruto.

Of course I don't have any facts to back this up with, but it seems it's most likely to happen that way.

What do you think?

[slmcknett]

I think Killer Bee will win because Lightning beats Water, and besides that, Naruto needs a form of Jinchuriki mentor to help him control his Biju (like Ichigo and the Visoreds).

[FQShinobi]

I`m also placing my bet on killer bee
Just like slmcknett says lightning beat water
And the bijuus powers are like this
one tail weakest
two tails 2nd weakest
three tails 3rd weakest
and it goes on like this
so that mean the nine tails demon fox
inside naruto is the strongest
like you all know minato the fourth hokage
was considered as on of the strongest shinobi ever born
and he couldn`t even beat the nine tails
so he just gave his own life to seal it
that means hachibi is the 2nd strongest bijuu
his power is almost the same as of the nine tails kyuubi
and Kisame`s could never be stronger as Minato
rather his power will ever come close Minato
+Bijuu`s who are sealed into human are stronger
as they said in the sanbi episodes
it`s true that we don`t know what Kisame is capable of
but Team hawk couldn`t get killerbee
and i think Sasuke is already more powerfull as Kisame
or better said i think Kisame won`t make a chance

[nahkampfbiber]

I think Killer Bee will win because Lightning beats Water, and besides that, Naruto needs a form of Jinchuriki mentor to help him control his Biju (like Ichigo and the Visoreds).Lightning beats Earth. This isn't Pokemon. :P

I doubt this fight will happen in the first place, but I would go with Killerbee, too.
Killerbee's Bijuu is partly an octopus, so he should be able to handle Kisame's massive water ninjutsu quite well.
And Kisame's sword skills, don't seem anywhere near the level of Killerbee's. He relies on stealing Chakra from his enemies, but Killerbee has a seemingly endless amount of that, thanks to the eight-tails.

I don't see any way for him to win this fight.
And arguing that he could win because he has some unknown ability that Kishi is going to reveal is just silly. There's no point in discussing anything then.

[benelori]

This will be a twisted post.
I hope the fight will happen, but I don't think it will(or just in flashbacks). Anyway
Killerbee has great chakra, we know thanx to 8tails, but neji said kisame's chakra is comparable to that of naruto's and we know kisame used only 30% his chakra just enough for that jutsu.
I don't think kisame showed his sword skills at all. He only played gai and co. becuz there was nothing to lose, that battle was a great act from kisame.
So I'd say killerbee will win, becuz it would complicate things for madara, but i would sure like kisame to win.
But let's not forget akatsuki needs killerbee alive so, if both of the above endings will happen i would be really happy.

[Arctigor]

I think that Kisame is stronger than KB but someone needs to teach naruto how to kontrol the kyuubi and there is only KB who knows the secret.

I also think that the fight between the two won't end and both of them will survive.

[Pro_Gantzer01]

Here are some facts about Kisame, straight from Narutopedia:

1.Even when he fought at 30% power in one instance, his chakra supply is compared to that of a Nine-Tailed Demon Fox-enhanced Naruto Uzumaki during the Chunin Exams.

2.Kisame has the largest chakra reserve in all of Akatsuki (according to Pain). Karin, upon sensing Kisame, stated she had never seen so much chakra in one place.

3.At one point, Guy battled a clone of Kisame's with 30% chakra-supply, and Guy was forced to open his Sixth Chakra Gate in order to survive.

4.Kisame alone captured the 4 tails without a scratc,h though a difficult task, by his own admission, Kisame merely complained that he was "a bit tired".

5.He also managed to overpower another melee-weapon user, Asuma. Using only the tip of Samehada (wielded with one hand), against Asuma's two blades which he held overhead using his body as extra support

And, as we all know Madara ordered Kisame to capture him, and Im sure that Madara knows what he's doing. He told him to do it alone, and Im pretty sure Madara, unlike us, knows his powers and knows that he could do it alone. As mentioned before, this will give Kisame an opportunity to show off how strong he is.

[Sean79]

I really hope they do show this battle.
I'll be f**king excellent!

As much as I want to see Killerbee train Naruto.
I want Kisame to win this one. GO KISAME :kblush

[midman]

Since Pain is dead, I think the plans for collecting all of the Tailed Beasts have to be laid off for a while. It was some bad planning - Madara is not looking for shinobi able to sync with Gedou Mazou, yet he ordered Kisame to go for the 8-tails. I strongly doubt that the fight will take place. Killerbee is too important for the plot. This whole scene was just to drag Kisame away from the action.

In my opinion we have to wait for the plot to unravel. The fight between Kisame and Killerbee is in Sasuke's hands. If he is successful in killing Danzo or mayheming the Kages' meeting, I will vote for Kisame. But if Sasuke fails, it is very likely for Killerbee to become Naruto's mentor. So then I will vote for Killerbee.

But overall I can't stop thinking Naruto will be the one-and-only final Jinchuuriki, so most likely, Killerbee is going to be down.

[Pro_Gantzer01]

Since Pain is dead, I think the plans for collecting all of the Tailed Beasts have to be laid off for a while. It was some bad planning - Madara is not looking for shinobi able to sync with Gedou Mazou, yet he ordered Kisame to go for the 8-tails. I strongly doubt that the fight will take place. Killerbee is too important for the plot. This whole scene was just to drag Kisame away from the action.

In my opinion we have to wait for the plot to unravel. The fight between Kisame and Killerbee is in Sasuke's hands. If he is successful in killing Danzo or mayheming the Kages' meeting, I will vote for Kisame. But if Sasuke fails, it is very likely for Killerbee to become Naruto's mentor. So then I will vote for Killerbee.

But overall I can't stop thinking Naruto will be the one-and-only final Jinchuuriki, so most likely, Killerbee is going to be down.

Why is Killerbee so important for the plot? He is Raikage's brother, yet he is not that impotant for the plot, and I don't see Kisame failing on capturing him, I know Madara knows that he alone can do it and that's why he ordered him to do it alone. Besides, I think as well that Naruto will be the final Jinchuriki, so for that, Killerbee must go down. Still, we wont be seeing that fight after this Kages' meeting arc, so we'll see, we'll see :)

Killerbee being Naruto's mentor and teaching him to control the Kyuubi, a possible prediction, but I really believe that Naruto will be able to control it by himself as the story develops. He has grown really strong, and Minato has faith in him that he will put an end to war/ the chain of hatred. :)


Madara is not looking for shinobi able to sync with Gedou Mazou

When Madara sad it was time for the "Moon's Eye Plan" he said he still wasn't going to sync Sasuke with Gedo Mazo, so I he already has someone to sync it with. Anyway, thats why I think he wants Sasuke.

[FQShinobi]

Why is Killerbee so important for the plot? He is Raikage's brother, yet he is not that impotant for the plot, and I don't see Kisame failing on capturing him, I know Madara knows that he alone can do it and that's why he ordered him to do it alone. Besides, I think as well that Naruto will be the final Jinchuriki, so for that, Killerbee must go down. Still, we wont be seeing that fight after this Kages' meeting arc, so we'll see, we'll see :)

Killerbee being Naruto's mentor and teaching him to control the Kyuubi, a possible prediction, but I really believe that Naruto will be able to control it by himself as the story develops. He has grown really strong, and Minato has faith in him that he will put an end to war/ the chain of hatred. :)



When Madara sad it was time for the "Moon's Eye Plan" he said he still wasn't going to sync Sasuke with Gedo Mazo, so I he already has someone to sync it with. Anyway, thats why I think he wants Sasuke.
i think the reason why madara waits to let sasuke sync with gedo mazo ,
is to gain his trust or u need to be capable of something to sync with it

[slmcknett]

Lightning beats Earth. This isn't Pokemon. :PI doubt this fight will happen in the first place, but I would go with Killerbee, too.
Killerbee's Bijuu is partly an octopus, so he should be able to handle Kisame's massive water ninjutsu quite well.
And Kisame's sword skills, don't seem anywhere near the level of Killerbee's. He relies on stealing Chakra from his enemies, but Killerbee has a seemingly endless amount of that, thanks to the eight-tails.

I don't see any way for him to win this fight.
And arguing that he could win because he has some unknown ability that Kishi is going to reveal is just silly. There's no point in discussing anything then.

Just because the elements don't work that way, that doesn't mean the regular effects of nature don't apply. Water conducts electricity. Period. Even in this crazy Naruto world. Besides, Suigetsu was weak to Killer Bee's electricity when he fought him, so why shouldn't Kisame?

[Darth Executor]

Kisame beat a jinchuuriki with lava element. if he loses to killerbee who has nothing special that counters his entire water arsenal it's gonna be really lame.
[hr]

Just because the elements don't work that way, that doesn't mean the regular effects of nature don't apply. Water conducts electricity. Period. Even in this crazy Naruto world. Besides, Suigetsu was weak to Killer Bee's electricity when he fought him, so why shouldn't Kisame?

Because for whatever reason lava element didn't work against water, and it's a fusion that should obliterate it. kakashi couldn't beat a normal wind/fire combo with just water, and yet kisame beat an earth/lava fusion with just water. why should killerbee, whose element is nothing special vs water beat him? Either kisame has more than water jutsu in his arsenal or he's one badass motherf***er.

[Kuranzyan]

Kisame has a few Doton in his arsenal, although the only Doton we've seen him using is the one that let him swim through the ground, using the Samehada as a "Shark fin."

Killer Bee would win, however. A Menacing Ball fired at Kisame would deplete an extremely large amount of his chakra, if not outright kill him. Orochimaru, the ninja "that just won't die, dammit" stated it would kill him should he come into contact with even so much as the feedback.

[Weapon_X]

I think Killer Bee will win because Lightning beats Water, and besides that, Naruto needs a form of Jinchuriki mentor to help him control his Biju (like Ichigo and the Visoreds).

Actually no... 5th panel http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-414/page004.html This page disagrees with you :)

When Suigetsu went for Bee, Bee said "So you are a water Ninja. You have the advantage there" So Bee would loose against water...;)

[Kuranzyan]

Ehm... KB was referring to the battlefield, seeing as there was a HUGE source of water in the vicinity that Suigetsu could use for jutsu. A few moments later, he utterly obliterated Suigetsu. Bee never said he would lose, he only implied that Suigetsu had a momentary advantage.

[Weapon_X]

Erm, no he didn't. Bee said he was a "water" Shinobi, not just any random Shinobi. He has the advanatage there meaning he has the advanatage of using water Jutsu. A momentary advantage? Yeah right...it clearly implies Bee is weak against water. And we know how Kisame is, Kisame is the guy who beat a Biju and a Jinchuuriki who could use lava. O_O

Things are clearly foreshadowing that Bee is going to loose the battle against Kisame...but might get resuced by someone else.

[Kuranzyan]

Yes, Bee said Suigetsu was a "Water Shinobi". IMO, he was talking about the fact Suigetsu was a Suiton user, not a Kirigakure shinobi. Bee wiped Suigetsu's ass shortly after he said that.

Just like Kakashi is a Raiton user and Naruto a Fuuton user, you'd call them a Lightning Shinobi and a Wind Shinobi respectively, or would that be too presumpteous of me?

[Weapon_X]

So did I hear Bee saying to Sasuke "A Raiton user"? No. Dude, whatever your arguement is, it's wrong. Bee is clearly weak against water, he even said it himself. And just cause Suigetsu got hammered down(by a Biju also) doesn't mean Kisame will. We all know Kisame is a better Suiton user, it's been portrayed many times. Even Tobi says that Kisame should have been the one to catch the 3 Tailed Beast. And guess who just got paired up with bee? Kisame...now I wonder if Kisame is a water user or not.:facepalm

[kthy0056]

Kisame is just as important as the girl with weird glasses from Konoha (from the investigation squad).
First of all, Pain is dead and Madara must synch Sasuke with Gedo Mazo. Which I believe it means that 8 tails can't be sealed in the statue yet.
Kirabi was let alive for a purpose. That purpose is not to be defeated by Kisame (unless Kishimoto changed his mind).
Cry me an ocean, Kisame was always let out of the main action in the last chapters. He was used to keep back Team Hebi while Sasuke battled Itachi and now he is sent to fight 8 tails while the main thing is the Kage summit. He is just so slow.

Off-topic: One thing I don't understand about Kisame. Why the hell does he look like A FISH? It's not like you happen to see an anthropomorphic creature everywhere in the Naruto world, he is the first one.
There was Orochimaru, who was ugly. Thanks to his experiments. There was Kakuzu, who was ugly. Thanks to his insane immortality jutsu. I can somehow understand Zetsu, he is a full fledged freak (I mean "they" :P). But Kisame, I really want to know why is he looking that way.

[shinsengumi]

Erm, no he didn't. Bee said he was a "water" Shinobi, not just any random Shinobi. He has the advanatage there meaning he has the advanatage of using water Jutsu. A momentary advantage? Yeah right...it clearly implies Bee is weak against water.

lol killerbee clearly implied that suigetsu had the environmental advantage.fighting next to the lake that is..which is also how suigetsu was able block hachibi's blast. thanks to the lake supply
this is where the real "weakness topic" took place (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/002/) you should check ;) (if you're not permanently banned i mean : / )



Off-topic: One thing I don't understand about Kisame. Why the hell does he look like A FISH? It's not like you happen to see an anthropomorphic creature everywhere in the Naruto world, he is the first one.
There was Orochimaru, who was ugly. Thanks to his experiments. There was Kakuzu, who was ugly. Thanks to his insane immortality jutsu. I can somehow understand Zetsu, he is a full fledged freak (I mean "they" :P). But Kisame, I really want to know why is he looking that way.

i remember this was talked for so long and many people theorized that he might also be another hermit mode user.it can explain a lot ,why he has the fish-like appearance ,how he can be so powerfull etc... i'm not %100 into this idea but still makes sense

[~Joshua~]

This fight would be a tough one.. If Bee doesn't completely transform I believe that Kisame wouldn't really have a hard time proving how beastly he is. If KB does transform, it would be tough even still but KB can't used lightning-based moves while in that form so I doubt he would win. Kisame can't be slow so I think he would have time to dodge the blast.

[Er1x0n]

Aright! Seems like it's time to bump this one up!
I still give my 2 cents to Kisame.

What do you believe?

[shinsengumi]

i believe kisame is strong enough to defeat bee, but for the plots sake,bee will survive this battle.i really dont think he will go down before he meets naruto.

[hajialibaig]

Bee pwns Kisame...we're talking about 8-tails perfectly synchronized shinobi here so that gives him immense power, chakra, and techniques..

Kisame on the other hand was Itachi's bitch, and Sasuke is already more or less on Itachi's level, and had no chance against Bee (Died twice in the first 2 mins of that fight)

PS: Suigetsu only had a momentarily advantage against Bee cause Bee was surrounded by a lake, whose water was used by Suigetsu to buy time for Sasuke...Bee isn't weak against water..r u kiddin?

As expected though, Suigetsu was pwned shortly there after, also, Suigetsu, a water user, is extremely weak against lightening (see raikage fight), so lightening >> water

So Kisame is gonna be weak against Bee's lightening

[Lightsnake]

Ok, we all heard the big spoilers?

Suddenly this fight...WAY more even. Kisame was Itachi's bitch? Oh GOD, is that wrong...

[ninjabot]

I'm giving it to Kisame. Samehada cuts chakra, evidenced when Naruto attempted to focus his chakra to save Sasuke from Itachi. As long as Hachibi was in range he could have his chakra shroud swiped away. And then there's whatever increase is gained from fusing with Samehada. If Kisame can gain the chakra cutting abilities of Samehada than whatever chakra attacks are used against him may (MAY) be useless...

[Musashi_Keiji]

I`m also placing my bet on killer bee
Just like slmcknett says lightning beat water
And the bijuus powers are like this
one tail weakest
two tails 2nd weakest
three tails 3rd weakest
and it goes on like this
so that mean the nine tails demon fox
inside naruto is the strongest
like you all know minato the fourth hokage
was considered as on of the strongest shinobi ever born
and he couldn`t even beat the nine tails
so he just gave his own life to seal it
that means hachibi is the 2nd strongest bijuu
his power is almost the same as of the nine tails kyuubi
and Kisame`s could never be stronger as Minato
rather his power will ever come close Minato
+Bijuu`s who are sealed into human are stronger
as they said in the sanbi episodes
it`s true that we don`t know what Kisame is capable of
but Team hawk couldn`t get killerbee
and i think Sasuke is already more powerfull as Kisame
or better said i think Kisame won`t make a chance

WOW!!! that is quite the number of assumptions. And you know what they say when you AssUme....


Sasuke is not stronger than Kisame, no where near. Sasuke is cool and all but nah!

I know this is going to be quite an awesome fight! But as someone else said Naruto is going to need a mentor for learning to control the Fox as Killer Bee controls his bull-octupus thing.... So one way or another Killer Bee will survive the fight. The jinchuuriki will be located and protected. What will they do if they can't go out an fight because they are told "no" why train of course! Killer Bee will train Naruto.

Meanwhile strong shinobi from the villages are picked off by Akatsuki(at this point includes "hawk"). As they are about to despair and lose all hope Naruto and KB intervene.

Seems rather cliche I know. But it's happened quite a few times in the manga already(sasuke recover arc, Gaara recover arc, Pain vs village+naruto).

Killer Bee will probably die at some point or another. But i think for now he will survive against Kisame.... And IF he does not, his musical master will probably teach Naruto about controlling fox somehow....


Kisame will not die in this either. But I also doubt he will ever have a grudge match with Gai/Lee again or that he will face off against Suigetsu(he seems weak to me). Suigetsu seems like the gay pretty boy of team Hawk kinda how Sai is the same for team 7.

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

I see Kisame winning this. I don't see any reason to have Killerbee evade capture two times. And him getting capture will be good for the plot because it will put a lot of pressure on Naruto not to get capture.

[niblack89]

I think if Kasame can cancel out the hachibis power then killerbees in trouble not unless he can use his brothers lightning armor. But I think the hachibi should have more power than Kasame. His sword shouldn't hold that much power if so thats stupid cause the kyuubi besides the juubi should have the most chakra ever known and the hachibi should have the second no Kasame. dam now everyone has tailrd beast powers. I knew that Kasame had enormous chakra but. I hope that by himself he doesn't I hope that when together they have but not as much as the hachibi.

I think it will be Kasame who has the upper hand cause this could be a reason why he was paired with Itachi? I don't see Bee escaping Sasuke just to get caught by Kasame whats the purpose. I think Bee needs a whipping just cause first he is too cocky and second he will see that he isn't the strongest in the universe.

[Thabor]

Just because the elements don't work that way, that doesn't mean the regular effects of nature don't apply. Water conducts electricity. Period. Even in this crazy Naruto world.

It does conduct electricity in Naruto world, but you are incorrect about the conductivity of water.

http://www.physorg.com/news105896336.html

[katon_style]

it will surely be a monsters battle.kisamehada vs hachibi.kisame could have a huge chacra and the monstr that he will be after the fusion with his sword will become strong but i don't think that he might defeat the 8 tails only because the tailed beasts will loose their unique characterisitic of being huge chacra monsters if a shinobi defeats him nearly to death except a sealing him with a jutsu

[DevilsNeverCry]

Lol firstly the elements battle sub-discussion going on here:

Let's face it, it doesnt make ANY sense.

Earth, in real terms, would not be weak to LIGHTNING for a start. Just like Wind would not be weak against fire necessarily, while it's true that oxygen contributes to the acceleration of a fire, a hurricane would surely put out a fire no? And why the hell is wind stronger than lightning? That's madness in itself.

And thend you've got this crossover exception that Kishi makes that water is actually weak to lightning as well, when by his logic alone they are meant to only be truly 'weak' to the element before, not to say that another element couldn't do damage.

ANYWAYYYYY!

Kisame vs Bee! Bee should win imo. Here we've basically got two opponents who are just pure and simple powerhouses. Both skilled swordsman, both have amazing levels of chakra and both (probably) have an array of interesting jutsu.

Kisame has Samehada for massive chakra and Bee has 8-tails.

I honestly think 8-tails will be the trump card for Bee, Hawk only beat Bee because he was trumped by an attack that is NEARLY unblockable, but Kisame has no distinct advantage over bee unless Samehada can eat one of those bijuu energy balls.

Also, someone mentioned the appearance of Kisame earlier? Well I theorise that all swordsman of hte mist have those shark teeth, but I think Kisame has taken on the physical humanoid appearance of a shark because of Samehada, the literal translation of which is 'shark skin'. It wouldn't be too farfetched to suggest that this is the reason for his strange shark-like appearance.

[winterwyrm]

it will surely be a monsters battle.kisamehada vs hachibi.kisame could have a huge chacra and the monstr that he will be after the fusion with his sword will become strong but i don't think that he might defeat the 8 tails only because the tailed beasts will loose their unique characterisitic of being huge chacra monsters if a shinobi defeats him nearly to death except a sealing him with a jutsu

Does anyone have a confirmation on this? I remember reading in last week's spoilers that kisame can fuse with his sword, but I don't think that's right. I've read two versions of the chapter, and I think they just meant with him and a powerful sword, together they make a powerful force.

Plus I think kisame's appearance is artificial, it seems like all the swordsmen try to look like sharks, they probably file their teeth, and kisame probably tatooed on the gill marks. Other than that, it may be because of an experiment to make him a more formidable water ninja.

Sorry bee, my vote goes to kisame, shonen bad guys are always overwhelmingly powerful, and akatsuki has taken too many hits, they can't take more if they want to single-handedly wage a world war.

[Crw85]

Kishi has been playing to much pokemon. That's where he got the idea of collecting bijuu. Madara is trying to be the worlds greatest pokemon master.

But seriously, Bee will barely lose the fight and another rescue arc will begin. That way Naruto can keep his promise to the cloud nin.

[Krik]

Bee will win but I doubt it will be a cakewalk. I honestly don't see Kisame retreating or even dying so perhaps we'll get a surprise twist.
The Op said we've seen what bee is capable of already. I disagree and this time bee actually wants to fight, and not walk away. We've mostly seen the extent of Killer bee's flee no jutsu and not his real game face. I like them both so I'll be happy with a victory from either just don't remove them from the story just yet.

[richeales]

killerbee will get captured sometime, either now or by sasuke. i like the idea of him surviving so he can train naruto, but im sure naruto could do it by himself, someone would give him some good advise. so im leaning towards kisame, he really needs a big fight so make madaras side look a bit more beefy

[Franckie]

In terms of feats, Killer Bee wins. Seriously, what is Kisame going to do? Sure, Kisame has superhuman strength, but so does Killer Bee. Sure, Kisame has a buttload of chakra, but so does Killer Bee. Sure, Kisame's a master swordsman, but Kisame was disarmed by Gai's foot - that's right, the strongest "Swordsman of the Mist" got disarmed by a foot - and Killer Bee skewered a sword-wielding Sharingan-user. Sure, Kisame can use something like Water Prison, but I don't see the jutsu holding up against Killer Bee's lightning blades.

Now all of this may change with the upcoming Killer Bee vs Kisame fight. Kisame might win, Killer Bee might win, or the fight will be interrupted. Regardless, until we see the fight's results, Killer Bee has the edge.

[Phoenix946]

In terms of feats, Killer Bee wins. Seriously, what is Kisame going to do? Sure, Kisame has superhuman strength, but so does Killer Bee. Sure, Kisame has a buttload of chakra, but so does Killer Bee. Sure, Kisame's a master swordsman, but Kisame was disarmed by Gai's foot - that's right, the strongest "Swordsman of the Mist" got disarmed by a foot - and Killer Bee skewered a sword-wielding Sharingan-user. Sure, Kisame can use something like Water Prison, but I don't see the jutsu holding up against Killer Bee's lightning blades.

Now all of this may change with the upcoming Killer Bee vs Kisame fight. Kisame might win, Killer Bee might win, or the fight will be interrupted. Regardless, until we see the fight's results, Killer Bee has the edge.

You're totally right, so right even that according to just those feats, Kisame wouldn't stand a chance against KB. Which leads me to believe that we should disregard most/all of what Kisame has done in the past, save own the 4-tails on his own. He just hasn't been that impressive, but in order to have a decent upcoming fight he does have to be. Choujurou's hyping worked a bit and Pain's remark sparks to mind again, but he'd better have a whole lot more in store.

In fact, purely because he's more the unknown than Bee (Bee also has more to show but probably not nearly as much as Kisame) I'm placing bets on him.

[Franckie]

You're totally right, so right even that according to just those feats, Kisame wouldn't stand a chance against KB. Which leads me to believe that we should disregard most/all of what Kisame has done in the past, save own the 4-tails on his own. He just hasn't been that impressive, but in order to have a decent upcoming fight he does have to be. Choujurou's hyping worked a bit and Pain's remark sparks to mind again, but he'd better have a whole lot more in store.

Well, there is a major power inflation from what was established in Part I. Regardless, it's pretty much been the same old Kisame:

- Pein praised his chakra when they were sealing the Ichibi
- Neji said he never felt a chakra that huge apart from when Naruto used Kyuubi
- Choujurou said he has bijuu-level chakra

The common denominator here is his large chakra, which isn't unique. The deal with Roushi, the Yonbi Jinchuuriki, also needs to be put in perspective. Roushi was old and Kisame's suiton-based attacks would be an ideal counter for Roushi's Youton (Magma) based attacks. Kisame also admitted he had a hard time with him, and the fight occurred offscreen. It's not a major feat.


In fact, purely because he's more the unknown than Bee (Bee also has more to show but probably not nearly as much as Kisame) I'm placing bets on him.

Like I said - All of this may change with the upcoming Killer Bee vs Kisame fight. Kisame might win, Killer Bee might win, or the fight will be interrupted. Regardless, until we see the fight's results, Killer Bee has the edge thanks to his superior feats.

IMO - I expect a good fight either way because this is one of the rare times where a major fight occurs without the presence of one of the Konoha teenagers. Therefore, the chance that Kisame or Killer Bee will be gimped has greatly decreased.

I'm also hoping Kisame doesn't win. If Bee loses and Kisame wins, that'd be so lame. That'd guarantee Kisame being defeated by someone from Konoha. Konoha has already produced the majority of Akatsuki members and defeated Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Itachi, Konan, Pein, and Madara (in due time). That's 8 of 11 members... Also, Bee remaining alive ensures Sasuke escaping the consequences of his actions (as he normally does) in a semi-believable manner.

I'd like to see a victory for once that isn't strictly involving Konoha.

[Krik]

I'd like to see a victory for once that isn't strictly involving Konoha.

Yeah and it would add another dimension to the series. The world really is larger than Konoha. Again, Bee wants to do this dance and neither are in a hurry as Gai was (No one to rescue or watch out for). No reason why this fight shouldn't be the best to date.

[SharkJAW]

WOW!!! that is quite the number of assumptions. And you know what they say when you AssUme....


Sasuke is not stronger than Kisame, no where near. Sasuke is cool and all but nah!

I know this is going to be quite an awesome fight! But as someone else said Naruto is going to need a mentor for learning to control the Fox as Killer Bee controls his bull-octupus thing.... So one way or another Killer Bee will survive the fight. The jinchuuriki will be located and protected. What will they do if they can't go out an fight because they are told "no" why train of course! Killer Bee will train Naruto.

Meanwhile strong shinobi from the villages are picked off by Akatsuki(at this point includes "hawk"). As they are about to despair and lose all hope Naruto and KB intervene.

Seems rather cliche I know. But it's happened quite a few times in the manga already(sasuke recover arc, Gaara recover arc, Pain vs village+naruto).

Killer Bee will probably die at some point or another. But i think for now he will survive against Kisame.... And IF he does not, his musical master will probably teach Naruto about controlling fox somehow....


Kisame will not die in this either. But I also doubt he will ever have a grudge match with Gai/Lee again or that he will face off against Suigetsu(he seems weak to me). Suigetsu seems like the gay pretty boy of team Hawk kinda how Sai is the same for team 7.

The reason Bee can control his Bijuu is because he has a "relationship" with it. On the other hand, the Kyuubi is entirely evil and only wishes to escape from Naruto's body. Did we all forget that? The only way Naruto would get full control of Kyuubi is if the Kyuubi was threatened and could possibly be eliminated. Even then, there would be a low chance of Naruto mastering the Kyuubi. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi all of a sudden allows Naruto to have Sage chakra and full control of the Kyuubi when all Naruto needs is one or the other.

[GodEmperor]

You forget KB has been doing some serious training shown in the previous chapter.


He's practically at a whole new level. Kisame just doesn't have the moves or the rhythm to hang with the KB-man

[c0nflikt]

I think it will end with KB winning, or Kisame fleeing. Kisame is my favorite character and i'm glad he might be getting more than one chapter of screen time (FINALLY!) But we are talking about the man who nearly cut the executioners blade in half, Kisame doesn't have a hax jutsu like amaterasu, or tsukyomi (is that what its called?).

I also believe he looks like a shark like we will find out cause of whatever entity or power inhabits samehada, I think we will learn alot about the 7 swordsmen in the coming chapters.

I hope KB wins though i've been disappointed the whole naruto series by how quick the jinchuriki's disappear.


AND LETS NOT FORGET, Kishi probably took the week off to research black people, rap, or r&b so KB can deal out some ownage.

we're going to be seeing something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tLuMA-s2RA

[Leos~]

we're going to be seeing something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tLuMA-s2RA

You, good sir, have just made my day.

[mooangus]

I can't wait to see this battle. Kisame has always been one of my favorite characters, though I didn't really like the fact that he can now 'fuse' with his Samehada... but it's cool nonetheless =]
I can't imagine a situation in which either Kisame or Bee loses... so I'm going to bet that there's going to be a tie or interruption. Actually that's my wishful thinking, I like both characters.

Off topic:
What would happen if his Samehada would absorb Naruto's sage chakra? Will the Samehada turn into a frog haha, wicked!

[Elleian]

And, as we all know Madara ordered Kisame to capture him, and Im sure that Madara knows what he's doing. He told him to do it alone, and Im pretty sure Madara, unlike us, knows his powers and knows that he could do it alone.

Sorry but all the other posts that state something like this is just ridiculous.. WHO ELSE IS HE GOING TO SEND? HAWK? they already failed the other time. He obviously was the person doing it because there's no one else to do the job, Madara and Fly trap guy were somewhere else and busy. I'm not questioning how uber Kisame is, but questioning the logic involved.

Also i'm going to have to go with KillerBee for better plot movement.

[Raizen]

Lets break down the skills
Speed- Bee wins
Strength- both are strong but I will give this to kisame
Endurance- Bee, since he has the 8-tails
Intelligence- tie. Both don;t seem very smart
Sword skills- Bee has 8 swords, kisame has got one. So bee should be able to fight him

I think the battle would be good. However, I believe bee is weakened or at least not at his peak b.c he just came from a battle. Who knows. But also, bee has got his sensei there. Maybe he is quite powerful too.

I think that after all the times naruto promised to save bee, i think bee might lose due to the handicap. And just as he is about to be taken away naruto saves him

[Prince Sasuke]

I think the battle would be good. However, I believe bee is weakened or at least not at his peak b.c he just came from a battle. Who knows. But also, bee has got his sensei there. Maybe he is quite powerful too.
Sasuke made a full recovery quite a few chapters ago to head to the summit, bee should definitely be 100%.

[Raizen]

Sasuke made a full recovery quite a few chapters ago to head to the summit, bee should definitely be 100%.
Yeah, but sasuke most likely had karin, juugo, or madara help him heal. Bee doesn't have that
I too hope that bee is 100 so that the battle doesn't become another lame conditional debate if either side wins.

[kkck]

Quite frankly I think kirabi is the more powerful one at the moment. I do think he would have several problems against kisame though. For one thing, kirabi's ninjutsu will almost certainly not work against kisame. The samehada can just eat away chakra meaning that for instance kirabi's electric swords won't do any good. It is even plausible the samehada can at least halt for a while kirabi's transformation like he did with naruto. I do think this will last only for a while though given that kirabi can control his biju almost perfectly and I do doubt kisame's sword can absorb the chakra to stop a full biju transformation.

Now, the thing here is that we do not know the extent of kisame's transformation power. If he transforms into a biju like creature and like the sword it can eat chakra then kirabi would be in a lot of trouble.

[Masterpice]

Lets break down the skills
Speed- Bee wins
Strength- both are strong but I will give this to kisame
Endurance- Bee, since he has the 8-tails
Intelligence- tie. Both don;t seem very smart
Sword skills- Bee has 8 swords, kisame has got one. So bee should be able to fight him

I think the battle would be good. However, I believe bee is weakened or at least not at his peak b.c he just came from a battle. Who knows. But also, bee has got his sensei there. Maybe he is quite powerful too.

I think that after all the times naruto promised to save bee, i think bee might lose due to the handicap. And just as he is about to be taken away naruto saves him

I think that with sword kisame has got advantages...maybe Bee has 8 swords but those are typical short sword. Kisame has 1 big sword which can eat bee's chakra. Whats for endurance...choujorou[whatever his name is] said that Kisame has the same chakra level as the jinchuriki so i think..........TIE.

[mattiaildivino]

ahah the result is clear now. anyway killer bee owns kisame! if ponta and sabu hadn't been there,he would have owned kisame.