Least favorite AG character, and why?

[CannedJam]

Well, I was curious about everybody's least favorite character, and I sort of want a little more activity in the AG forum, lol.

Its quick and easy. Just state your least favorite character and why. Or just show in a page/chapter that shows your answer.

My least favorite character is Ringo. Partly because I love Kururu and want Ringo out of the picture so Ikki can go her, but also because shes so conflicted.

[king_crimson-]

-you *do* know that ikki will end up with simca, do you?-

well, let's see...i'd probably say hako, she just pisses me off...but then again i don't really dislike her character...

[skitzophr3ak]

Personally I'm not fond of Simca I don't know what it is about her maybe it's the whole manipulative schemer side of her, I just don't like her. I'm sure there will be plenty of posts about Onigiri in this thread much to my dismay.

[Carnevil]

Simca can't stand the bitch.

Reasons:
1.She betrayed her own brother and actively helped his enemy a man who is a total psychopath.
2. Her actions allowed Sora to regain his regalia which led to the murder of Spitfire and Yoshitune. I guess you could call her an accessory to murder.
3. She's an adult woman who has a thing for an underage boy.
4. Beyond fan service she's almost completely useless.

[suarhnir]

oyos

simca isn't my least fav but she's not a complete bitch. sora had a lot of people fooled, the rest of old sf thought sora just wanted to unseal the sky regalia for the benefit of the rest of the world (and not be an evil dictator). spitfire and simca realized too late just how far sora was gonna go for conquest and at least tried to make amends. simca really tried to get all of genesis to fully accept ikki as leader, and she probably wanted to be his tuner because it would be a legitimate reason for her to stay with ikki and support him (and keep her away from sora and nike). she is a bit of a cradle robber, but she's only like 7ish years older.

my least fav character... is pyon. she's the 'new simca minion' (assumed the role simca seemed to fill when she was still loyal to sora/genesis) of the sora bros. she's actually a bit evil, always sucking up to sora, has that annoying verbal tick of "pyon" which ends up being the only thing we can come up with for a name since we don't know it yet. she also attempted to look cute for sora when she was reintroduced after spitfire's death, but i think her outfit was pretty horrendous.

[CannedJam]

-you *do* know that ikki will end up with simca, do you?-


Neveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!!!

Kururu + Ikki = <3. LOL. Sorry, I go a little overboard sometimes. :)
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Personally I'm not fond of Simca I don't know what it is about her maybe it's the whole manipulative schemer side of her, I just don't like her. I'm sure there will be plenty of posts about Onigiri in this thread much to my dismay.


To be honest, if it wasn't for Ringo and the Nike, then Onigiri might have been my least favorite.

Wow, I'm sort of shocked at the Simca dislike.

[Kazu-Sama]

Onigiri.
He's a worthless rider, and not fit to ride among the kings of Kogorasamu.

Can anyone tell me whether this is kururu :http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/230/19/. The long-haired one?
If so, she's alright. If she's not, she should be used as fang target practice

[suarhnir]

Can anyone tell me whether this is kururu :http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/230/19/. The long-haired one?
If so, she's alright. If she's not, she should be used as fang target practice

oyos

that's konomi. she's a friend to kururu and i think roommates too at their school's dorm (along with hako)

[Shrapnel]

... that idiot students who lurked in the toilet, 'cept the sheep-like one with the computer. I dislike the one with the flying hair, especially.

[CannedJam]

Onigiri.
He's a worthless rider, and not fit to ride among the kings of Kogorasamu.

Can anyone tell me whether this is kururu :http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/230/19/. The long-haired one?
If so, she's alright. If she's not, she should be used as fang target practice


No, its not her. Kururu is too cool for that(I mean the page before that one[page 18]).

Starting to think I like Kururu too much....XD

And you never know. Onigiri may improve a lot. For now hes worthless, but who knows?

[king_crimson-]

Simca can't stand the bitch.
3. She's an adult woman who has a thing for an underage boy.
4. Beyond fan service she's almost completely useless.
3. she's like 22 an ikki's 15...no big deal(it wouldn't really be a big deal even if she was 50...ikki's 15, not 8...)
4. except she's pretty much the reason the main character started at, and thus pretty much the one who's responsible for the whole story of air gear......

@kazu-sama...how exactly can you not know who kururu is...? problem with names?
she's the pledge king and ikki's tuner btw

[Carnevil]

3. she's like 22 an ikki's 15...no big deal(it wouldn't really be a big deal even if she was 50...ikki's 15, not 8...)
4. except she's pretty much the reason the main character started at, and thus pretty much the one who's responsible for the whole story of air gear......


I think Tokyo law might have something to say about that. I didn't say she was completely useless I said almost completely useless. Which would imply that she does or did have some use.

[king_crimson-]

mmm...the age of consent in japan is 13...though i read it could be raised to 18 by prefectural law...bah honestly, i don't see how a 15 year old boy wouldn't be old enough, but it might just be me('cause here where i live it's rare to find a 15 years old boy that's still a virgin...)

[Kazu-Sama]

I know who Kururu is, but not sure what she looks like in the hat...

And in that case, Kururu is only good if you need your AT's fixed in 3 seconds. Give me simca any other time :-)

[king_crimson-]

...."only"....what manga have you been reading exactly...? (oh, and simca apparently was about as skilled a tuner as kururu...)

[Kazu-Sama]

Kururu is as skilled as Simca, so you don't need kururu when you could have Simca instead. Simca could have been a bit more tactful and Hako wouldn't have stolen the regalia; therefore Sora wouldn't have got the Regalia, Spitfire would be still alive, Yoshi would be still alive, Aeon would be working for Ikki, and the Trophaeum would be taken without much difficulty

[Sesshiru]

Kururu is as skilled as Simca, so you don't need kururu when you could have Simca instead. Simca could have been a bit more tactful and Hako wouldn't have stolen the regalia; therefore Sora wouldn't have got the Regalia, Spitfire would be still alive, Yoshi would be still alive, Aeon would be working for Ikki, and the Trophaeum would be taken without much difficulty
and u would then have no story

[Kazu-Sama]

I disagree. The fight between Genesis and SF would have been much more interesting, and it'd be a lot more realistic, among other things...

[CannedJam]

Kururu is as skilled as Simca, so you don't need kururu when you could have Simca instead. Simca could have been a bit more tactful and Hako wouldn't have stolen the regalia; therefore Sora wouldn't have got the Regalia, Spitfire would be still alive, Yoshi would be still alive, Aeon would be working for Ikki, and the Trophaeum would be taken without much difficulty

Umm...you're kidding right? Simca is no longer with TTT(I think the acronym is three T's XD), so it only made sense that Kururu be introduced. Simca already had another role to play, and thats the annoying chick in the wheelchair(Joking :P). But seriously, Kururu is there to surpass Simca in terms of tunning.

And I highly doubt that those events would be much(if any) different. And I'm preeeetty sure all those events that you listed sparked some pretty serious character development.

I'm just guessing here, but umm....Kururu is one of your least favorite characters, right?(Gotta stay on topic, too :P)

[eyesotope]

the character I hate the most is Kururu, why? because of her uselessness, she's there only because Oh!G decided to shove another girl into the story..

supposedly, she's the pledge queen and she's Ikki's tuner, despite the fact that she's never done anything to warrant either title..
it feels like your idiot colleague in the office getting a promotion over you because he's the GM's son.. just plain annoying and outrageous..

as far as I'm concerned she doesn't deserve to be a main character and she shouldn't be one.

[CannedJam]

the character I hate the most is Kururu, why? because of her uselessness, she's there only because Oh!G decided to shove another girl into the story..

supposedly, she's the pledge queen and she's Ikki's tuner, despite the fact that she's never done anything to warrant either title..
it feels like your idiot colleague in the office getting a promotion over you because he's the GM's son.. just plain annoying and outrageous..

as far as I'm concerned she doesn't deserve to be a main character and she shouldn't be one.

Not supposedly, shes is. :P To say she hasn't done anothing to warrant the title is a bit of a stretch, no?

I will honestly say I am a dedicated Kururu fan, so this may seem a little biased. But, I became a dedicated Kururu fan when I saw how much she cared for Ikki. When Sora reaveled everything an nobody else was there to bare the pain with Ikki, I believe Kururu was there by his side. When Ikki fought against Ringo Kururu was there. When working on Ikki regalia she worked day and night(sure she slipped up resulting in Sora getting the regalia, but still). When Koga fought against Kururu's father and Co.(truthfully don't remember their name) Kururu made up her mind and went with what she saw fit(sounds like character development to me, pretty important to a main character, no? :D). And I'm positive after Koga's match against Sleipnir(sp?) Kururu will be back in effect with Ikki's new regalia and such.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this thread. I just felt like replying to get my english skills ready for when school starts because I love high school soooo much(sarcasm), and I love me some Kururu(non-sarcasm). :P

[king_crimson-]

supposedly, she's the pledge queen and she's Ikki's tuner, despite the fact that she's never done anything to warrant either title..
she can assemble ats in seconds, and is a genius at makigami's level---->she deserves the title as pledge king
she's the one who understands ikki the most and whom ikki "chose" to be his link tuner--->she deserves to be ikki's tuner...more like, she's the only one who can be his tuner, and sheìs the best link tuner in the world at that so i don't see why ikki should settle for anyone else...

[CannedJam]

she can assemble ats in seconds, and is a genius at makigami's level---->she deserves the title as pledge king
she's the one who understands ikki the most and whom ikki "chose" to be his link tuner--->she deserves to be ikki's tuner...more like, she's the only one who can be his tuner, and sheìs the best link tuner in the world at that so i don't see why ikki should settle for anyone else...

Agreed. 100% agreement :P.

[Kazu-Sama]

Simca was a better tuner than her; She DESERVES the title more. If she wasn't actually trying to HELP people, she would have been the pledge king (queen?)
Use Kururu as fang target practice, that's what I say...

[killerb33]

Use Kururu as fang target practice, that's what I say...
I agree on that agito needs something new to aim at and it would make her usefull.

I am glad that nobody said anything bad about onigiri and just about kururu:p

[Carnevil]

Simca was a better tuner than her; She DESERVES the title more. If she wasn't actually trying to HELP people, she would have been the pledge king (queen?)
Use Kururu as fang target practice, that's what I say...

Show me where it says Simca is a better tuner? Last time I checked Ine stated that Kururu matched Simca in tuning abilities. http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/146/09/ Also Simca gave up her chance to be Pledge queen when she joined Genesis. So Kururu deserves the title Ine gave her the title so it's hers.

[CannedJam]

I agree on that agito needs something new to aim at and it would make her usefull.

I am glad that nobody said anything bad about onigiri and just about kururu:p

Ha! I could've went insane on the Onigiri dislike, but my huge hate for Ringo saved his worthless ass :P.

Although, Agito should actually use Onigri for practice, that way Agito can learn to cut through real thick objects :D Maybe that way Onigri may actually learn something too :)

[Atobe the king]

Hmm...get back on topic guys..if you really want to argue about Kururu and Simca create a thread..

That said...

Onigiri..a character who is supposed to be comic relief but has failed miserably at that thus far...the Sleipner battle went way up on my favorites list since he got taken out.

[eyesotope]

Not supposedly, shes is. :P To say she hasn't done anothing to warrant the title is a bit of a stretch, no?

no? then what in hell did she ever do anything that actually influenced the story significantly?


I became a dedicated Kururu fan when I saw how much she cared for Ikki. When Sora reaveled everything an nobody else was there to bare the pain with Ikki

for me I was more pissed by Ikki's reaction than impressed with Kururu's, I was expecting Ikki to punch through the screen in anger or do something retarded (like he always does), but he decided to cry like a sissy and wait for consolation :notrust


I believe Kururu was there by his side. When Ikki fought against Ringo Kururu was there. When working on Ikki regalia she worked day and night(sure she slipped up resulting in Sora getting the regalia, but still).

all of which (the events you mention) were practically pointless, if you omit them from the story no one will miss them or feel that something is missing.. and that's my main problem with her, she's just never done anything significant plot-wise.. even Onigiri got a few lame victories here and their in some of Kogarasumaru's battles.


When Koga fought against Kururu's father and Co.(truthfully don't remember their name) Kururu made up her mind and went with what she saw fit(sounds like character development to me

uhh.. but since her character/mind set didn't really change after that, there wasn't any real development.. actually, since her introduction Kururu has never had a character changing event happen to her to develop her personality anyway..
perhaps with the possible exeption of the time when Ikki thought she was kidnapped and busted up her old man's car (incidentally that was one of the very few times I actually liked her) :amuse

and btw good luck in high school ;)


she can assemble ats in seconds, and is a genius at makigami's level---->she deserves the title as pledge king
she's the one who understands ikki the most and whom ikki "chose" to be his link tuner--->she deserves to be ikki's tuner...more like, she's the only one who can be his tuner, and sheìs the best link tuner in the world at that so i don't see why ikki should settle for anyone else...

all what you mention as all well and fine.. if it was actually useful :noworry

so she can assemble ATs in seconds.. to bad they'll break a few seconds after that, and even if they don't it's not like that ability of hers was ever useful to anyone..

she deserves to be Ikki's tuner, he chose her, and she's the only one who can be his tuner.. too bad that she's never actually tuned him..
yup, she's useless imo :eyeroll

Agito should put her to good use and practice those fangs on her :p

[Kazu-Sama]

Carn, Simca may be equal to Kururu, I was wrong about that. But imagine if simca didn't leave TTT. Ikki wouldn't have become a storm rider, and there would be no story. At All. Basically, If Simca hadn't left TTT, Kururu wouldn't have been needed at all; Ikki wouldn't have become the wind king thus needing a tuner, and Simca would be pledge king...

[Atobe the king]

Did anyone miss the part where i said to drop the argument or create a thread?

[CannedJam]

Did anyone miss the part where i said to drop the argument or create a thread?

Ummm...guys I really do think we should listen to Atobe. Its fun the get off topic, but we're not suppose to stay off topic.

I'd love to continue this Onigiri hate(useless), and defend Kururu(amazing <3.), but a new thread is needed for both of those. So, lets just stay on topic. :)

[killerb33]

Onigiri hate(useless), and defend Kururu(amazing <3.)

onigiri(one of the best and funniest storm riders) I am going to defend that, kururu(even less than useless) speaks for it self.

[Atobe the king]

This wont end well lmao..so long as you guys don't resort to flaming....

You can argue why you hate a character and defend them..that's the prupose of this topic, no?

But the argument about Kururu or Simca being the better TTT is off topic.

[CannedJam]

This wont end well lmao..so long as you guys don't resort to flaming....

You can argue why you hate a character and defend them..that's the prupose of this topic, no?

But the argument about Kururu or Simca being the better TTT is off topic.

Okay, cool. Then I shall begin my argument on Onigiri eventually, even if I do stand alone on it :(.

[Kazu-Sama]

New Thread for Simca vs Kururu. Also, Onigiri is awesome, if only for the fanservice he provides. Then again, I'd happily swap Onigiri for Loki if he goes and removes Freya's panties :-)

[CannedJam]

onigiri(one of the best and funniest storm riders) I am going to defend that, kururu(even less than useless) speaks for it self.

One of the best? Seriously? Are you reading Air Gear or watching Jackass? Hes really not that funny. Hes pretty much a filler in Koga in terms of skill. I'm 10018%(randomly generated percentage :)) that Emily is years ahead of Onigiri in terms of skill. He hasn't improved much since the start. I mean in terms of skill and humor. And being taken out by your own teammates(a few chapters ago http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/251/018/) is most certainly not a good look :P.

Wow, saying all this is actually starting to make Onigri my least favorite character. lol

[Kazu-Sama]

What's happened to Emily?
Is she just written out of the story completely or something?
'Cause that sucks, Koga kind of need her...

[CannedJam]

What's happened to Emily?
Is she just written out of the story completely or something?
'Cause that sucks, Koga kind of need her...

I think she'll be back after Obama---I mean Omaha(:facepalm) is done raping her XD. No seriously though, I think she'll come back new and improved leaving Onigri in the dust.

[Kazu-Sama]

I think she'll come back new and improved leaving Onigri in the dust.

Sounds like a good plot idea: Onigiri is too injured after the pile tornado/fang combo to carry on, they're short one rider, and who comes to save the day?
Emily, on her new and improved AT's

[CannedJam]

Sounds like a good plot idea: Onigiri is too injured after the pile tornado/fang combo to carry on, they're short one rider, and who comes to save the day?
Emily, on her new and improved AT's

Perfect! You should be OG's assitant! :P

[eyesotope]

anyway... so while Simca vs Kururu is clearly off topic, stating why you dislike a character, or defending one is not.. so...

after my total mauling of Kururu in my previous post (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1554555#post1554555) feel free to defend her and argue in her favour, which might very well result in me mauling her even further [/flame bait]
:smile-big

and to stay on topic, one of my least favourite main characters is Ikki, although I like him better than many AG chars, he still ranks low on my favourite main chars in manga generally.. he has good leadership qualities and deals well with most situations he gets into, but he's as huge a jerk as they ever come, his manners are seriously screwed, and he has an obnoxious tendency to suddenly appear naked (while taking a dump on occasion)..

OK some times he royally sucks.

[killerb33]

One of the best? Seriously? Are you reading Air Gear or watching Jackass? Hes really not that funny. Hes pretty much a filler in Koga in terms of skill. I'm 10018%(randomly generated percentage :)) that Emily is years ahead of Onigiri in terms of skill. He hasn't improved much since the start. I mean in terms of skill and humor. And being taken out by your own teammates(a few chapters ago http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/251/018/) is most certainly not a good look :P.

Wow, saying all this is actually starting to make Onigri my least favorite character. lol

I said onigiri was one of the best cuz his way of riding is original and so are his tricks and road, you can't compare him normally to anyone else, if you put a king against him in a upside down battle I'll bet you anything onigiri would win cuz nobody can do what he does he created a whole new way of riding not just some mix of 2 roads but a whole new one.

every rider started to want to be the next king of one of the 8 roads and they train to be like the last one but onigiri didn't he thought up a new road from the beginning one that usees air in a different way a way the old SF wouldn't think of and if he really was crap he couldn't do that it takes skills to do that and stay with it, and by the way anyone who can do this isn't crap http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/221/014/

the injurees give him a reason to start training again to make him just as strong to male opponents as female.

[warbandit66]

What I have against Onigiri is that he just looks like he's not giving his team 100%, like he's playing, I know he's got some sort of strange awesome power but I just always get the feeling that he thinks of the whole thing as a game.

[CannedJam]

What I have against Onigiri is that he just looks like he's not giving his team 100%, like he's playing, I know he's got some sort of strange awesome power but I just always get the feeling that he thinks of the whole thing as a game.

The sad thing is: I used to think that too. I still tell myself that sometimes too just as false hope that he'd improve. Now I've realized hes a waste of space and should be taken over by Emily :P

[Kazu-Sama]

cannedjam, I Agree. He IS playing, In my opinion, but he'll never take AT's Seriously. Remember at the beginning, when Ikki first formed Koga? Kazu trained intensively, Ikki was helped by Ume and Ringo, Buccha was in the night kings, improving. Onirigi wasn't keen to join, and that hasn't changed. Put emily in the squad full-time.

[king_crimson-]

the problem is still the same though: onigiri can actually fight on par with rika, emily can barely run straight...

[Kazu-Sama]

Put Onigiri vs Nike, see what happens. Put Onigiri vs Gabashi, who we know Emily can distract and actually fight back against, see what happens.

[Sesshiru]

Put pretty much anyone against Nike and they die. I honestly don't believe anyone in Koga can stand up to Nike at this point. Hell I'd bet Nike could take the entire Koga on by himself.

[Kazu-Sama]

I disagree. Ikki, Kazu and Agito could beat Nike.
His flying rock bullets could be deflected by Ikki, and his vibration move can be countered by 'Oh, Time.' So if Ikki focuses on blocking flying rocks, Kazu stops Vibrations, and Agito fires off fangs, Nike would ve defeated...

[king_crimson-]

oh, please...it's still entirely to see wether kazu can actually counter his trick like aeon did...also, he'd probably have other tricks, don't you think? kilik did counter kazu's time with a similar trick, and nike on top of the gem also can perform wind tricks probably at an higher level than ikki...

and this
Put Onigiri vs Nike, see what happens. Put Onigiri vs Gabashi, who we know Emily can distract and actually fight back against, see what happens.
i don't even think i need to answer...i mean, you were obviously joking

no matter how you look at it, right now onigiri is a better rider than emiri, plus if he's opponent is a woman, he becomes ridicolously powerful(actually even more so than anyone else in the team...)

[Avi]

Nike, since he's a twin-douche. Unreasonable answer, but it speaks for itself.

[eyesotope]

no matter how you look at it, right now onigiri is a better rider than emiri

I totally disagree.. Onigiri sometimes appears strong in a stupid joke kind of way, but Emily is at least consistent in her performance, and while Onigiri is strong against certain opponents, he's totally useless against others no matter how week they are, like in the match against a week team like animal house Onigiri took all the duration of 3 seconds to be disqualified..

I dislike Onigiri because he seems to be stuck in a limbo between being a joke character or a normal character and most of the time it just doesn't fit..

[king_crimson-]

why don't you look back on it, the match with animal house was a total defeat for koga

onigiri didn't lose a single match after that against all the other teams, and not all of his opponents were female

and even so, emiri can barely run straight on the ats, onigiri instead can at least run "properly"

and this isn't my opinion, this is a fact, go back and reread the manga if you're not sure, and accept it already

[eyesotope]

I'm afraid that's purely your opinion :eyeroll

go ahead.. point out a match that Onigiri really won besides the one against gorgon..

in battle against Om he lost miserably like the loser that he is (Emily was the one that owned him incidentally :D) :p

looks like you're the one who should re-read :amuse

[king_crimson-]

here you go http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/170/005/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/176/003/

is this enough or do i have to go link every chapter in which it's pointed out how emiri is a complete beginner?

[eyesotope]

you still didn't answer my question :eyeroll :)

and no, I can't possibly be bothered to link the moments Onigiri displayed how much of a loser he is here, I have better things to waste my time on :p

[king_crimson-]

go ahead.. point out a match that Onigiri really won besides the one against gorgon..
inorganic net vs sleeping forest, he almost single-handedly kept koga "alive"

plus he won all the battles koga fought during the level-up between the two matches against animal house

now, what did emiri do exactly that makes you think she's a better rider than onigiri?


no, scratch that, this discussion is pointless afterall: koga is a team made up of 2 kings, 1 *tentative* king and another solid a-rank rider. Onigiri can perform on the same level as them, given that his opponent is a woman.

unfortunately emiri can't perform on that level, no matter who her opponent is

[CannedJam]

unfortunately emiri can't perform on that level, no matter who her opponent is

Wow, I haven't been on in a while, lol.

Anywaaay, now I really can't wait for Emily(or Emiri :S) to come back and show just how bad Onigiri really is. Even though I've been focused on school for the past two weeks, I have been re-reading Air Gear while I can and well...Onigiri has oddly become my least favorite character(more so than Ringo). Hes just uselss. He is suppose to be a comedic relief, but even fails at that.

Hes not funny, battle skills are pretty shitty, and he's the 2000 something pounds(may be an actual measurement of his weight) holding down Kogarasumaru.

You can say he can "actually" runs in a straight line unlike Emily, but how far can you go with an AT on your head? I'm pretty sure that Emily can run properly now. Shes been improving anyway, yeah improving...its someting characters are suppose to do every now and then, not once and then never again.

[king_crimson-]

of course emiri's been improving, but no matter, if you look at her current skills, and at onigiri's current skills, not only onigiri is an overall better rider than her, even though they're both pretty bad compared to the rest of the team, onigiri is still a D-C rank rider, by his battle level...emiri the last time she was shown couldn't even do a simple wall ride...

except onigiri has this incredible supernatural ability that if he's up against a female opponent, he becomes insanely strong, with no regards to his "real" skills...emiri doesn't have anything like that atm...

oh and, i'd be more than happy if emiri were to actually become a skilled enough rider to take onigiri's place, i personally like his character, but most of the time i dislike his battles...if you think about it he actually only ever had 2 real battles, and one of the two wasn't even shown(against old SF), while the other wasn't actually bad....but duh, he gives off this feeling of stupidity and unseriousness(does this word even exist?) that makes him so much annoying during battles, at least ever since the soras came to power(and things went from teenagers who uses special shoes to "fly" and battle among themselves, to prevent a duo of homicidal madmans backed up by the american marine from obtaining world domination....)

[Carnevil]

Lets see Onigiri do this.
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/225/12/

Now granted if Kiric actually wanted to fight she'd be dead. But it was more than Onigiri would be able to do against him.

[CannedJam]

at least ever since the soras came to power(and things went from teenagers who uses special shoes to "fly" and battle among themselves, to prevent a duo of homicidal madmans backed up by the american marine from obtaining world domination....)

Wow, its weird but thats the current plot of AG.

Yeah, I know we're talking about Onigiri, but I have ADD so live with it bitches :P

I joke, I joke. I don't know...No matter what evidence is brought to me I still can't bring myself to like Onigiri. Hes just so....meh.

[Kazu-Sama]

I agree Emily should replace Onigiri. She won every single Cube match she fought with her strength, and if she could only improve her AT-skills, she could be the new Mikan...

Onigiri has reached the peak of his potential, IMHO. He can use ick-ass moves from time to time, but when he's not using them he's getting beat up... Spectacularly

[CannedJam]

I agree Emily should replace Onigiri. She won every single Cube match she fought with her strength, and if she could only improve her AT-skills, she could be the new Mikan...

Onigiri has reached the peak of his potential, IMHO. He can use ick-ass moves from time to time, but when he's not using them he's getting beat up... Spectacularly

My thoughts exactly!

[killerb33]

hey guys this link says that onigiri is a B class rider
http://airgear.wikia.com/wiki/Onigiri

I know even as a die hard fan of the koga pigs I was shocked:eek:

[king_crimson-]

it's the team that's b-rank...onigiri's battle level is 36, which would mean...around D/C rank i guess?

@carnevil, yes, emiri only survives because she's a woman, end of the story. what she did wasn't anything particular, if kiric were to seriously intend to harm her, she would've been killed before she could even react...

that's the whole point i'm making, both are basically weak riders, who are in a team who's level is far higher than theirs and is taking part in a tournament were every single other rider is several times better than them, they would both be completely out of their league in about 95% of situations....except, onigiri has supernatural powers that make him become even better than his teammates, while emiri doesn't

that's probably why she was taken out of the battles in the first place

[Kazu-Sama]

Air Gear Wiki is horribly outdated, we need to get the Mangahelpers guys to update it...


Emily survived becuase Kilic was too weak to fight off her and Ikki, so she grabbed the balloon, and won the game...

Now tell me, which matches has Onigiri won single-handedly???

[king_crimson-]

no, way before ikki got there, kiric didn't attack emiri because she's a woman, and only scared her to make her lose the timing to jump and reach the baloon...except he didn't expect ikki to get there and help her

i mean seriously i can't even understand why are we even arguing about this, the real point is, emiri is an amateur, she probably couldn't run on top of a plane, onigiri on the other hand was actually even able to follow kiric's instructions and get on freya's plane...and he was taken out by his own teammates, he was actually kind of winning the 1vs1 with freya...

also, if you wish to compare what the two did, hell, onigiri defeated gorgon shell in a cube match, and almost single-handedly stopped the entire old SF, thus allowing emiri to get away and after the baloon...

again, seriously, it's one thing if you don't like his character, but if we're discussing about skills with ats, at least be objective

[CannedJam]

again, seriously, it's one thing if you don't like his character, but if we're discussing about skills with ats, at least be objective

So basically his skills are only good when compared to Emily(emiri?).?

Whats going to be said when she comes back improved(I know she will)?

[king_crimson-]

i'm saying that even though he's actually weak, he still has a prominent role in the team because of his pervertedness, and even when that doesn't come into play he's still equal/better than emiri

and thus emiri can't take his place in the team, yet

the point i've been rebuking here for 3 pages is this
Hes pretty much a filler in Koga in terms of skill. I'm 10018%(randomly generated percentage ) that Emily is years ahead of Onigiri in terms of skill.

i've got nothing against emiri taking his place, but that could only happen when/if she reaches a level where she actually can take his place in the team

i doubt she ever will though...

btw all this was already pretty much said in the manga long ago, too http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/184/001/

[Kazu-Sama]

also, if you wish to compare what the two did, hell, onigiri defeated gorgon shell in a cube match, and almost single-handedly stopped the entire old SF, thus allowing emiri to get away and after the baloon...


Please. PLEASE Tell me you're kidding.

Techincally, he didn't win the cube match. In fact, Technically, he's been riding illegally for all this time.

And how the heck did he stop SF?
He freaked out Rika, she set Kilic on him. Him, Agito and Kazu took a beating while Emily WON THE FREAKIN MATCH!

I hope Emily comes back soon, since she's SO much better than Onigiri in terms of effort and personality...

[killerb33]

first of all how the hell can you be riding illegally and mind tricks are allowed in a match(nott-dagr and gorgon use them too)

second onigiri's averege battle class is B cause when facing a female rider he is even better then king class riders but when facing a male rider he is D class(can be E or C I don't know)

[Kazu-Sama]

[QUOTE=killerb33;1583395]first of all how the hell can you be riding illegally and mind tricks are allowed in a match(nott-dagr and gorgon use them too)

Mind Tricks are allowed, but he never beat Gorgon-shell, she gave up...

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/60/18/

THAT's why he's illegal

[killerb33]

no he tricked her into believing that she cloudn't win and it would be better to just give up (and take her clothes off)

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/62/14/

she gave up cuz she was tricked by onigiri who beat with her own tricks

its allowed to ride in your own way, bee-man usees more a-ts and sora just usees the rear wheels of his a-ts why isn't onigiri allowed to use just one a-t(forgot the lion in lionheart:p)

[CannedJam]

no he tricked her into believing that she cloudn't win and it would be better to just give up (and take her clothes off)

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/62/14/

she gave up cuz she was tricked by onigiri who beat with her own tricks

Sure that took skill psychologically, but I want Onigiri to win a match based solely on his AT skills. Meaning I want him to win properly, all comic relief characters(even the unfunny ones) need to be serious once in a while too.

[warbandit66]

I really do think that if Onigiri where to fix himself up and really put his mind to it, he'd really come along leaps and bounds. You can tell that although unorthodox in his approach he has some very powerful abilities, practically nobody would predict what was coming.

[king_crimson-]

Please. PLEASE Tell me you're kidding.

Techincally, he didn't win the cube match. In fact, Technically, he's been riding illegally for all this time.

And how the heck did he stop SF?
He freaked out Rika, she set Kilic on him. Him, Agito and Kazu took a beating while Emily WON THE FREAKIN MATCH!

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/221/008-009/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/221/010-011/

without onigiri they would have most likely been wiped out.
and no, emiri could not take his place.

and he did beat gorgon, no matter how you look at it, he won his battle, doesn't matter how, he won, with his own power


I hope Emily comes back soon, since she's SO much better than Onigiri in terms of effort and personality...
nothing to argue about this

but as i said, unless she comes back with a huge power up(and OG would seriously need to explain it in that case...) she won't be taking onigiri's place anytime soon...because she can't.

@cannedjam, i agree with you there, but he's a gag character, he'll be like that until the end...

[Kazu-Sama]

Do you remember WHY onigiri did that?
Not to win the competition, to see Rika naked...
He may have super-human abilities, but he never brings them out against anyone but a woman. I think Koga should realise this and dropp him

[king_crimson-]

onigiri is a gag character, that's actually his way of being serious.....:facepalm

and even so, he aside from why, the point is, he can pull that off

the fact that that only works against female riders hasn't been much of an issue as pretty much all the strong opponents koga had thus far, and the ones they would probably meet in the future, have a woman in the team...

and even if there weren't any girls, he'd still be pretty much as useful, or better, than emiri...

the whole point here is, koga can't drop him, because they don't have anyone else better than him...should someone like benkei or aeon join them, they definitely would use him as a substitute in battles who don't involve hot female opponents...

[killerb33]

Not to win the competition, to see Rika naked...

that is a really good reason.

if koga would battle material candy onigiri would be the most important rider in the team. he would be able to defeat that team all on his own the rest of koga isn't able to do something like that.

[Kazu-Sama]

if koga would battle material candy onigiri would be the most important rider in the team. he would be able to defeat that team all on his own the rest of koga isn't able to do something like that.

Yeah, but if they battle someone without Women, he's worse than useless, he's actually a disadvantage...
Or Lionheart, the woman there doesn't seem to mind getting naked (or, close) so Onigiri stripping her would do nothing. She'd just beat him up.

[king_crimson-]

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/231/18/

you call this a disadvantage?

and no, he's not worse than useless, in fact he's an overall decently skilled rider, and could still be of use to the team in some way, depending on the situation....of course he wouldn't be even nearly as uselful as he would be when dealing with women

and onigiri's battle doesn't end at stripping women, you know...otherwise, kiric wouldn't have had any troubles with him, and most likely neither would have rika...

[CannedJam]

Like I said. My main problem with him is that he's suppose to be a gag character, but he isn't funny. All that is left is to judge him on is his skills. He doesn't use his skills unless it benifits him in the end(winning doesn't count appearently).

He doesn't off any true effort to Koga and he isn't funny. Thats why hes my least favorite. In terms of heart and effort Emily(yes I'm calling her Emily and I'm sticking to it :P) is the better choice by far. This is all I've been trying to say.

[ArielShimizu]

My least favorite air gear character is Caesar. He's only dumb, stupid and silly.

[CannedJam]

My least favorite air gear character is Caesar. He's only dumb, stupid and silly.

Thank you for reminding me I created this thing! My least favorite is no longer Ringo or Onigiri...its Nike. Not sure if I put that out there or anything, but I did now :D.

[Carnevil]

Thank you for reminding me I created this thing! My least favorite is no longer Ringo or Onigiri...its Nike. Not sure if I put that out there or anything, but I did now :D.

How can you hate Nike that dude is awesome? If it wasn't for Nike and Sora there wouldn't be any good comedy in this manga. Nike and Sora always get a laugh out of me. I can't wait for this upcoming battle just to see what shit Nike and Sora pull.

[thefernus]

I agree with Onigiri, his gimmick is annoying... I wish he would fight a woman who just doesn't give a s*** about his "powers"/pervertedness and kicks his ass.

[suarhnir]

oyos

i'd put nike on my list just because he has someone as useless as caesar on his team...

[Carnevil]

oyos

i'd put nike on my list just because he has someone as useless as caesar on his team...

WTF is the point of Caesar's character anyways?

[suarhnir]

WTF is the point of Caesar's character anyways?

oyos

ummm... to point out that even a grav kid can be just as pathetic as a normal person... caesar's like the opposite of onigiri, looks badass but has not once shown to be useful, from my observations at least...

[Carnevil]

oyos

ummm... to point out that even a grav kid can be just as pathetic as a normal person... caesar's like the opposite of onigiri, looks badass but has not once shown to be useful, from my observations at least...

It's funny all of Genesis' minions that we've seen fight have all lost. Orca lost to Agito/Rind, Gawain and Percival died at the hands of Yoshi and Benkei, and Caesar has lost to everybody.

[CannedJam]

How can you hate Nike that dude is awesome? If it wasn't for Nike and Sora there wouldn't be any good comedy in this manga. Nike and Sora always get a laugh out of me. I can't wait for this upcoming battle just to see what shit Nike and Sora pull.

I know, its weird eh? If it weren't for him then we wouldn't have much going on for the plot right now, right?

But he killed Spit. I just can't seem to let that go :facepalm

[Carnevil]

I never understood why people are upset about Nike killing Spitfire. It's not like he wasn't asking for it.

[warbandit66]

I never understood why people are upset about Nike killing Spitfire. It's not like he wasn't asking for it.

True, if you go up against a super powered psychopath you should fully expect to die.

[Carnevil]

True, if you go up against a super powered psychopath you should fully expect to die.

Add to that, Spitfire pretty much started the fight. I mean he was betraying them by giving his regalia to Kazu. He also was talking shit to them.

[CannedJam]

Add to that, Spitfire pretty much started the fight. I mean he was betraying them by giving his regalia to Kazu. He also was talking shit to them.

Yeah, but its Spit. You just love it.

[Reiomi]

I hate simca, she's annoying and has oddly shaped boobs. At least in the beginning she was kinda pretty but with her hair cut..... *barf* she is soooo ugly

[~Joshua~]

Started to dislike Aeon.. Just a little. He stole the flame regalia from a kid. That's not cool..

[Mikaru]

5. Sora - I use to love the fact that he was like a big brother to Ikki and a understanding boyfriend for Rika, but to my surprise he was sadly just a freakin psychopath waiting to be unleashed on Japan.

4. Simica - For the most part, shes been used for nothing more than fan-service plus she try to subdue a thirteen year old. Hate how she pretty much tired to hand Ikki Genesis on a sliver plate without asking all the leaders of Genesis how they feel about it.

3. Ringo - I tired very hard to like this character, but sadly Ringo throughout this manga continues to disappoint me. She loves Ikki but the business of Sleeping Forest comes before him (she needs to make a decision), and she completely ruins the rumble regelia (alongside Kururu) made for Ikki's Storm Road.

2. Onigiri - Even though he was awesome in his fight with robo-Nike hes just a pig with a girl-fetish.

1. Ohama - This character had no business in this series, he ruined precious screen time for Emily. The fact that Oh!Great would even think to put the President of the US in a underage girl's body is simply disgusting.

[Naruffy]

The only character I dislike is Aeon Clock, and that's just because he took the Flame Regalia from Kazu. When is he going to give it back, He clearly doesn't need it anymore...

[dirtywork]

man u think wrong Aeon isn't just taker as Nike he is very cool and he always be Ikki's side. i think Konan is what i don't like he is boring type when he trying to kiss Ringo I almost puke xD.

[Carnevil]

man u think wrong Aeon isn't just taker as Nike he is very cool and he always be Ikki's side. i think Konan is what i don't like he is boring type when he trying to kiss Ringo I almost puke xD.

Aeon is totally a taker, he took what rightfully belongs to Kazu. Doing so is a total disgrace to Spitfires memory.

[eefrit]

Ringo. I just can't stand her. Any chapter she's I tend to dislike. Her personality and actions are just very annoying and wishy-washy. Everyone of her actions since the introduction of her true identity has just been anger inducing for me. Same for Simca, but I hate her more for being an Ikki fangirl to an annoying extent.

[damon21]

5. Sora - I use to love the fact that he was like a big brother to Ikki and a understanding boyfriend for Rika, but to my surprise he was sadly just a freakin psychopath waiting to be unleashed on Japan.

4. Simica - For the most part, shes been used for nothing more than fan-service plus she try to subdue a thirteen year old. Hate how she pretty much tired to hand Ikki Genesis on a sliver plate without asking all the leaders of Genesis how they feel about it.

3. Ringo - I tired very hard to like this character, but sadly Ringo throughout this manga continues to disappoint me. She loves Ikki but the business of Sleeping Forest comes before him (she needs to make a decision), and she completely ruins the rumble regelia (alongside Kururu) made for Ikki's Storm Road.

2. Onigiri - Even though he was awesome in his fight with robo-Nike hes just a pig with a girl-fetish.

1. Ohama - This character had no business in this series, he ruined precious screen time for Emily. The fact that Oh!Great would even think to put the President of the US in a underage girl's body is simply disgusting.
my thoughts exactly
except Onigiri, he was cool from the start:eyeroll

[dirtywork]

3.Miss Om (water queen of SF) - she is really look bad and got that god fighting abilities i think she would die in battle 4 a single stance
2.Ohama - that scum really sucks and WTF OG thinks on Emely's body and I think US president isn't like a game 4 manga
1. Kanon - fuck that scum i think he really is on Sora's side and just kill Ikki to be more time with Ringo that sucker really have to blown away by Ikki's tornado









and i didn't really hate a lot of character so this 3 is enough...

[Chiyuuka]

Simca. useless b- uh...female dog.

[dirtywork]

no fucking way ... Simca is coolest female character and all male storm riders love her thought

[ZERO PHOENIX]

1) Ohama - As an African-American I find this expy doubly offensive.

2) Kanon - Good catch dirtywork. I forgot all about that prick. He thinks he's great because he's Ringo's tuner but all he is a poser who wishes he could be Babyface.

[Atobe the king]

"1) Ohama - As an African-American I find this expy doubly offensive."

Lol same, hmmm there's a lot of people i find useless but at this point idk who i flat out hate...well i don't like Nike but he's not my least fave.

[warbandit66]

1) Ohama - As an African-American I find this expy doubly offensive.

2) Kanon - Good catch dirtywork. I forgot all about that prick. He thinks he's great because he's Ringo's tuner but all he is a poser who wishes he could be Babyface.

This is in no way meant to be confrontational but in what way is Omaha offensive? Ridiculous yes, offensive? I don't quite see it. Please explain.

[ZERO PHOENIX]

This is in no way meant to be confrontational but in what way is Omaha offensive? Ridiculous yes, offensive? I don't quite see it. Please explain.

All right I will. And please, do not take my responses to be in any part confrontational.

You asked in what way is Ohama offensive. First and foremost Ohama's physical and verbal expressions are exaggerated characterizations of African-Americans. I don't say this to be confrontational but I know that people don't pay attention to as many nuances as I do so I'll ask, have you ever examined the way Ohama moves? His movements are comically dance-like, feeding the stereotype that all black people have rhythm. A dancing n*gga was a mainstay of prejudice propaganda papers and was used to make African-Americans appear to be little more than entertainment for WASPs. Not only that but based on the way his body moves alone we are forced to look at Ohama not as a character or parody based on an existing president, but we are lead to look at him as another stereotyped n*gga if you get my drift. Ohama's movements and manner of speech are reminiscent of comics from the 1950s and 1960s in which the features of African-Americans (speech, thought, interactions, movements) were exaggerated for comic effect. Shall I continue? Of course.

You ever notice how Ohamily is typically louder than the other characters? Even dealing with typical situations in Air Gear, have you not noticed that Ohamily as a character has been more gun crazy, more violent than the other characters? Of course it's obvious to everyone that Ohama has her body, yes this is true. However, this only enforces the negative aspects of Ohama or rather, the aspects of African-Americans that the Japanese are familiar with are acted out through Ohama which manifests through Emily's actions. Emily (the body) has been louder, more violent, and more boastful, borderline arrogant given that Ohama is in her body. As a Japanese girl Emily was hesitant to fight, she was meek. But of course she was willing to go to blows for her friends. With Ohama in her body this isn't the case. Shall I elaborate upon the significance of this?

Since the 1800s there was a widespread belief that Blacks were the servants of the devil. If a white woman got with a black man she had the devil in her. This was a double entandre before they became popular. Anyway, for the more racist poles of society (even today) Blacks symbolize evil and Satanic possession. Is Emily's body not possessed by a Black man? And has she not become more violent as a result of being possessed by this Black Man? On the surface the President just switched bodies with a Japanese girl. Beneath that surface however is the fact that a Japanese girl got more violent and more arrogant as a result of having her body "taken" by a Black man.

Add on the meticulously (sarcasm) crafted spoofs of Obama's "Yes We Can" platform and not only is the Ohama expy offensive to African-Americans but it's offensive to Americans in general. In Air Gear, we've seen "Yes We Can" invoked when Ohamily turns violent and starts blowing shit up. Oh! Great is not only making fun of African-Americans by embracing stereotypes (Blacks are loud, crazy, violent, gun nuts) but he's also emphasizing those stereotyped aspects of Americana (Americans are loud, crazy, violent, gun nuts).

Now a typical reader, and I'm not saying this to be insulting, but a typical reader has no knowledge of these things. A typical reader sees the expy as funny. A reader such as myself however, knows the history behind what some might consider comedy. When you take Ohamily apart it's not a joke, it's not in good fun, it's offensive. But I'm a pretty laid-back guy and I know that as a Japanese person O!G is entirely ignorant as to what Blacks have had to endure for some 400+ years. So I'm lenient. He's not a racist he's just ignorant. I'm not hating on O!G as a writer or Air Gear as a title, but I'm not going to pretend I don't see blatant prejudice in a title just because I read it.

Would anyone else like to be heard?

[warbandit66]

You explained your stance very well and I have to admit there have been many times when I have seen O!G use ridiculous stereotypes and nicknames when referring to black or dark skinned characters and have felt angered by it.

[Atobe the king]

Well mangaka typically stereotype a lot of ethnics backgrounds including whites and other asians (generally in a humerous of negative light), for example the portrayal that americans are all Aryan in appearance, brash arrogant and cut throat, or that other countries are devious while nippon is portrayed as pure. I wont say any one ethnicity gets it worse than anyone else, but some are really blantant (lolbobfromTT). But yeah zero summed it up better than i'd have the patience to.

[Carnevil]

Don't forget that whole, The world will see me as "FUNKY FRESH" line that OG had Ohama spew out of his/her mouth. That and OG made him into a pervert who likes to be in the body of a 14 year old girl.

OG gets credit for not making him sound like a ebonics spewing rapper or talking about smoking weed.

[ZERO PHOENIX]

Don't forget that whole, The world will see me as "FUNKY FRESH" line that OG had Ohama spew out of his/her mouth. That and OG made him into a pervert who likes to be in the body of a 14 year old girl.

OG gets credit for not making him sound like a ebonics spewing rapper or talking about smoking weed.

Nothing but the best from Carnevil. True that. I'll give O!G credit in that regard.

[dirtywork]

well well simca might be die... simca haters must be happy now hm...

[evolwizard4]

Simca after the hair cut. She got less cool after she got it.

[misc-13]

Ringo and Simca

why are they such bitches!!!!!
they are sooooo annoying and useless!
i hate damsels in distress!!!!

[Storm King]

I hate Sora he loves Rika and then brainwash her so he can do whatever he wants to do with her.And he looks like a Cyborg to me with his air trek from knee to toe.

[Waking_Dreamer]

Sora is pretty adept at trolling the good guys.

Hes gonna troll Kiric in the tower and getting a kiss from Rika seriously pissed me off, which would piss Kiric even more.

[unknownymous]

I'd say Hako especially in the latest chapter.

[ikkixringo]

mines kururu mostly for the same reason as cannedjam just reversed and i also don't like simca though she's really no longer competition

[dirtywork]

Kanon and Hako really unfit this series besides they need to be deleted from AG while he got "sennen goroshi" LMFAO