\m/ THE METAL THREAD!!! \m/

[Arrogance]

Hey everyone, this is the METAL THREAD!!! :headbang. The place to discuss anything and everything about the wide world of Metal music. Here you could discuss anything from your favorite classic metal band to your favorite death metal band. You can discuss specific genres/types of Metal; which you like, which you don't. ALL OF IT IS WELCOMED HERE.

Another personal matter of mine is that I am always trying to look for new bands out there so this is a great place to recommend some bands that people may like. Maybe if you just discovered a new metal band that you want to spread the word about you could bring them up here. I would greatly appreciate learning of new bands I could possibly get into and I am sure many other members would love that too.

Anywho I hope this thread is a success, I am a HUGE fan of Metal as a whole and am hoping to get in touch with other members who share the same love for Metal as I do through this thread ;). Have fun guys and stay METAL!!!

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First!!!

Okay let me start off by saying Metal is awesome!!! And a few of my favorites are Black Sabbath, Metallic, and Lady Maiden.

If you think I should know of others please let me know.

[Arrogance]

Thats cool! Thanks for being first, lol. I'm a fan of Metallica myself. I also like Sabbath but I prefer the Dio years much better than the ones with Ozzie. I love them right now under their new name with Dio as Heaven And Hell! Their new album is The Devil You Know and I really love the new single Bible Black. I even saw them in concert about a month ago and it was really sick.

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I have never been able to go to there concerts. :( how awesome is it? Tell me how Much you enjoyed it.

[Arrogance]

Well I don't have to tell you when I could just show you :p. HEAVEN AND HELL - BIBLE BLACK LIVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0fKy0MnuCU) I recorded them playing Bible Black at the concert I went to a month ago ;). It was really awesome but now instead of me just telling you how great it was now you can see/hear for yourself :thumbs

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Is that your YouTube channel? If it is I noticed you had Bullet for my Valentine!!! Fucking love them!!! :XD

[Arrogance]

Haha, yea its mine. All those videos are ones I recorded from concerts I've gone to. I like BFMV too even though I don't listen to them as much lately cause I've been in a heavier mood. That concert I went to was sweet though, it was the Taste of Chaos tour and they were the opening band, followed by Atreyu, and then Avenged Sevenfold. I really LOVED A7X live, their stuff was really powerful! :wtf

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The Five Finger Death Punch is a really good video.it had me clapping along with everyone. Times like these where I wish I could have been there! :(

[Arrogance]

O so are you a 5FDP fan too?!?!?!?!? They have a new album coming out soon, not too sure when and what its called but I do have a leaked single that supposed to be on the album though :XD. The Bleeding really is a great song though. Its one of those that are heavy and distinctly metal yet your able to get emotionally into it.

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The few songs I have hear from them I liked a lot. It has been less than a month since I discovered them for myself so I am trying to get more of there music.

[Agrias]

FINALLY! Had never created a thread like this before because I thought i'd be alone! ;_;

I'm into all kinds of metal, but I tend to prefer progressive stuff. Opeth is my alltime favourite band (progressive/death). Others I could point out are Blind Guardian, Ayreon, Ark, Dream Theater, Angra, Dark Tranquility, Porcupine Tree (not really metal though...), Theatre of Tragedy, old Nightwish, Sentenced (RIP ;_; ), The Gathering, and maaaaaany more <3

Of the "new stuff", I like Avenged Sevenfold ^^ And of course, all the classics, Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth and all.

[Arrogance]

YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! :comfort. I felt compelled to make this thread because I knew there was some people out there.....plus us metal heads needed to counteract the Rap Thread! :shakefist.

Anywho I enjoy some progressive. Out of that I am more into Mastodon, I love their new album Crack The Skye! Its so good!!!! I'm hoping to go see them with Dethklok in about a month at the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan. As for your list there are quite a few bands I don't know so I will be looking into some of them ;). See that is one of my main hopes for this, to spread information on some new bands I and other people could listen to because I am always looking for new bands. I find that this could be a good way to find some more :).

O and I LOVE NIGHTWISH :XD. I actually like the newer stuff a little better....is it that your not a fan of the new singer?

[Evil3ye]

Yeah, Nightwish is a nice band. and yes they fucking pown Within Temptation :yelling

Besides that I've got an Evanescence LP, Fallen. Its actually not pure metal, more like Alternative Rock or Nu Metel but meh, furthermore I own a Marilyn Manson Best of which I rly love.. And Ive got all Rammstein and Metallica Lps :headbang


YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! :comfort. I felt compelled to make this thread because I knew there was some people out there.....plus us metal heads needed to counteract the Rap Thread! :shakefist.
Why always fight each other, if we all can peacefully live together side by side. Ya know Linkin Park is the best example for a gorgeous Rock/Rap combo :p

[Arrogance]

Yeah, Nightwish is a nice band. and yes they fucking pown Within Temptation :yelling

Besides that I've got an Evanescence LP, Fallen. Its actually not pure metal, more like Alternative Rock or Nu Metel but meh, furthermore I own a Marilyn Manson Best of which I rly love.. And Ive got all Rammstein and Metallica Lps :headbang


Why always fight each other, if we all can peacefully live together side by side. Ya know Linkin Park is the best example for a gorgeous Rock/Rap combo :p
Lol, well at first Linkin Park WAS Rap Metal, but that kinda changed up as their music went on. And M! I WAS JOKING!!!....but I am right in saying why should all the rap fans have all the fun so I made a metal thread then ;).

I LOVE RAMMSTEIN!!!! I don't understand them of the most part even though the funny part is that I am learning some german from them. They have a new album in the works too, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT!!

Overall I also enjoy a lot of Industrial Metal like Rammstein. The other bands I really like are Korn and Static-X. Static-X is probably one of my favorite in this category. My favorite albums by them have got to be their first one "Wisconsin Death Trip" and then their newest one that came out back in April "Cult of Static".

[benelori]

Just noticed the thread in UR sig...nice stuff... I'm not actually in for rock, but I had years when I was actively listening Metallica, Nightwish, Dimu Borgir and some romanian and hungarian bands. I think it was the "fire of youth" as guy would say...I still love metallica though they have a special touch which cannot be copied...I still listen to rock from time to time since my bro loves it...nice thread anyway...
OFF-TOPIC:
I really don't have time to check other threads outside manga-related, and from the first of october even less time... so if U have any other interesting threads, if U pls share a few links, or something...anyway it's weird this is a only a onepaged thread...

[Evil3ye]

True what youre saying about Linkin Park, but I actually enjoy only the old songs from the Hybrid Theory LP, like In The End or Papercut.. Also the colabo with Jay-Z was rly good stuff :wtf

As for Rammstein: I actually believe the words are quite easy to understand even for not-German speaking people. I remember when I was in Russia some years ago my Russian cousin sang Du Hast to me :lmao
And waddu you think, Im learning English by listening to English song myself :rolleyes: .. music connects ;)

Ooohw! Almost for got to mention the band Flyleaf.. I love a few songs of em but dont have a LP yet.. does anyone know that band and some of the albums?

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@M Flyleaf Is a good band some of there songs I have are "I'm So Sick" , "All Around Me", and "Fully Alive". "I'm So Sick" being my favorite from them. How about you? What songs do you like?

[Agrias]

O and I LOVE NIGHTWISH :XD. I actually like the newer stuff a little better....is it that your not a fan of the new singer?
I don't like her...too bad I never got to see a concert with NW + Tarja, I only went to one, with the new girl. I got to see Tarja solo though, she's amazing.

I liked their first 3 albuns. Then NW started to get too pretentious, less metal and more "movie soundtrack"-like. After that, Tarja left and things got even worse...now it's just like a random melodic metal band a la Epica or Within Temptation. :/

[earthforge]

Hey, Epica's pretty damn good. It's closer to old Nightwish than the new stuff (for starters, it has an orchestral singer.) I also liked Within Temptation. I prefer metal with clean vocals.

I'm into more symphonic and power metal. I like Kamelot, Nightwish, Epica, Sirenia, and some Dimmu Borgir.

[Arrogance]

Hey, Epica's pretty damn good. It's closer to old Nightwish than the new stuff (for starters, it has an orchestral singer.) I also liked Within Temptation. I prefer metal with clean vocals.

I'm into more symphonic and power metal. I like Kamelot, Nightwish, Epica, Sirenia, and some Dimmu Borgir.
Kamelot is sweet they are probably my favorite Power Metal band. That was the basis for me to move on to Melodic Death Metal. Once I got into the whole screaming and growling thing I was immediately attached to Melodic Death Metal because it incorporates some of that epic feel you get from power metal that I've always loves. Stuff I like that is Melodic Death Metal is Mors Principium Est, Dethklok, etc. I just love metal bands in general that incorporate those orchestral influences into their music. :D

[CBlitz]

is epica even metal? Its really similar to evanesence or vice-versa. I tend to steer clear of metal except the melodic stuff. Bands like In Flames, Insomnium and Dark Tranquility are awesome

[Arrogance]

is epica even metal? Its really similar to evanesence or vice-versa. I tend to steer clear of metal except the melodic stuff. Bands like In Flames, Insomnium and Dark Tranquility are awesome
I don't know Epica but I did a quick google and they come up a Symponic Metal so they fit then :XD. As for In Flames I really like them, I got into them after playing their song "Take This Life" on Guitar Hero 3 as a bonus song. I really liked them so I went and got their discography. My only problem is that their old stuff is pretty bad in comparison to the newer. The album Reroute to Remain and the 3 other albums that came after that are their best stuff IMO. Everything else sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me, lol.

[CBlitz]

I don't know Epica but I did a quick google and they come up a Symponic Metal so they fit then :XD. As for In Flames I really like them, I got into them after playing their song "Take This Life" on Guitar Hero 3 as a bonus song. I really liked them so I went and got their discography. My only problem is that their old stuff is pretty bad in comparison to the newer. The album Reroute to Remain and the 3 other albums that came after that are their best stuff IMO. Everything else sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me, lol.

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did you just say that their new stuff is better than their old stuff?????

NO

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[Arrogance]

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did you just say that their new stuff is better than their old stuff?????

NO

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mhm, yes I did. I've tried listening to their old stuff and I just don't like it. Its too chaotic, I don't like the vocals. Their newer stuff has better vocals more organized and more melodic and I just find that I actually enjoy listening to it over Lunar Strain and Whoracle. I think their most recent album wasn't as heavy as their older stuff but I still enjoy listening to it a lot. I guess Soundtrack To Your Escape was like an in between album. It was very heavy and yet I enjoyed listening to the vocals. I didn't find Reroute To Remain as heavy as Soundtrack but it was a very technical album, I liked how they incorporated some techno/electronic influences into songs like Cloud Connected. I'm not saying you can't have your opinion but this is mine, lol. I just don't enjoy the older stuff.

[CBlitz]

mhm, yes I did. I've tried listening to their old stuff and I just don't like it. Its too chaotic, I don't like the vocals. Their newer stuff has better vocals more organized and more melodic and I just find that I actually enjoy listening to it over Lunar Strain and Whoracle. I think their most recent album wasn't as heavy as their older stuff but I still enjoy listening to it a lot. I guess Soundtrack To Your Escape was like an in between album. It was very heavy and yet I enjoyed listening to the vocals. I didn't find Reroute To Remain as heavy as Soundtrack but it was a very technical album, I liked how they incorporated some techno/electronic influences into songs like Cloud Connected. I'm not saying you can't have your opinion but this is mine, lol. I just don't enjoy the older stuff.

yeah I know alot of people who prefer the new stuff. My fav song from the recent albums is probably Eraser. Their best album is the Jester's Race or something like that. Moonshield is their best song. IMO of course

[Dilandau]

I love metal! It's easily my favourite genre of music. Melodic Death metal would have to be my favourite sub-genre, it's just so....... melodic. The old In Flames (since their new stuff is pretty low quality in my opinion), Dark Tranquility and At the Gates are some of my favs. As for newer bands, I'd have to recommend Insomnium. Their songs have amazing riffs and great acoustic pieces to boot. Somehow I manage to find their songs to be quite peaceful. Try them!

[Arrogance]

^Thanks for posting. Although I don't agree with your In Flames comment (you and crimson would get along :XD) I am gonna look into Insomnium as you recommended :D. So far so good ;). Just surfing youtube trying to hear some of their stuff. Listening to the song "Mortal Share" right now. Are their any songs in particular you'd recommend. :D

[Agrias]

If I mix AF, Epica, WT and all the girly-operatic stuff, I really can't tell which band it is...they all sound the same ;p They just drank from NW's original formula, but at least NW had personality. But I do love Floor Jansen's voice...

For me, good bands with girl vocals are Theatre of Tragedy, The Gathering, the old NW I talked about, Ayreon (mixed), Leaves Eyes..

[Organizized]

I somehow just kind of felt like I had to take a peak in this thread, because I thought I felt the presence of some GÖTEBORGSDÖDS MOTHERF****R! :D

In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, The Haunted.. all I can say is :headbang!

[Dilandau]

^Thanks for posting. Although I don't agree with your In Flames comment (you and crimson would get along :XD) I am gonna look into Insomnium as you recommended :D. So far so good ;). Just surfing youtube trying to hear some of their stuff. Listening to the song "Mortal Share" right now. Are their any songs in particular you'd recommend. :D Yeah I know their are quite alot of fans of their new stuff. :amuse

I really like all of their songs though a few that stick in my mind as being a notch above the rest are: Change of Heart, The Day Death Walked the Earth and Since the Day It All Came Down (might have misplaced a few words in that last one), but I'm glad you checked them out. They're a really underrated band unforuntately :(

[Arrogance]

Yeah I know their are quite alot of fans of their new stuff. :amuse

I really like all of their songs though a few that stick in my mind as being a notch above the rest are: Change of Heart, The Day Death Walked the Earth and Since the Day It All Came Down (might have misplaced a few words in that last one), but I'm glad you checked them out. They're a really underrated band unforuntately :(
Thanks :D. I'll try and look a few of those up and hopefully I'll end up liking them. Well thats the way it is for Melodic Death Metal. Its a very obscure genre when you think about it. Like its one of my favorite yet at the same time how many HUGE NAME Melodic Death Metal bands do you see? If anything I have like 2 WELL known ones like In Flames and Children of Bodom. Like those seem to be Melodic Death Metal bands that everyone knows. Others I really like that took me a lot of digging to find are Mors Principium Est, Devildriver, etc. I love Melodic Death Metal but I agree that a lot of the bands are underrated because they just aren't VERY well known...at least in America that is.

[Organizized]

Here in Sweden melodic death metal is pretty big. From the top of my head I can mention In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, Soilwork and.. well, I suppose there are a lot more. There are countless less known bands following in the footsteps of In Flames and At The Gates. :headbang

[Arrogance]

Here in Sweden melodic death metal is pretty big. From the top of my head I can mention In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, Soilwork and.. well, I suppose there are a lot more. There are countless less known bands following in the footsteps of In Flames and At The Gates. :headbang
Out of those I love Amon Amarth! I just got into them a few months ago because of Runes To My Memory. Thats like my favorite song by them. Soilwork I've had one of their albums for a while but I don't listen to them often. But yea I know that you Europeans get all the sweet metal that we don't have here :darn. There are so many bands I wish would come to America but don't :scry. I know some Arch Enemy and I'm still looking into them, they are on my list of future bands to do research on ;). I guess in America one of the most well known Melodic Death Metal bands is Dethklok :XD. Meantime half the people that know about them through the show Metalocalypse probably don't even know that they are a considered Melodic Death Metal. lol.

[CBlitz]

Here in Sweden melodic death metal is pretty big. From the top of my head I can mention In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, Soilwork and.. well, I suppose there are a lot more. There are countless less known bands following in the footsteps of In Flames and At The Gates. :headbang

yeah theres definitely a lot of good swedish bands out there that do melodic metal.

[Agrias]

I somehow just kind of felt like I had to take a peak in this thread, because I thought I felt the presence of some GÖTEBORGSDÖDS MOTHERF****R! :D

In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, The Haunted.. all I can say is :headbang!

HELL YES

I'm visiting Gothemburg after New Years, I hope there's something going on there ;_____________; Damn Dark Tranquility is gonna play some days after I arrive! >.<


Btw, not talking about Sweden now though...how could I have forgotten about Borknagar, Norther, Agalloch, Arch Enemy and Swallow the Sun on my favourites list. ;_;
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Here in Sweden melodic death metal is pretty big. From the top of my head I can mention In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, Soilwork and.. well, I suppose there are a lot more. There are countless less known bands following in the footsteps of In Flames and At The Gates. :headbang

And Opeth, that owns all of them single handed. xD <333 I wanna move to Swedeeeen ;_;
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Btw guys, those who have an account at last.fm can join the MH group there (http://www.last.fm/group/MangaHelpers+in+Last.fm?setlang=en), take a look at everyone's lists and reccomend stuff, take a look at it! Let's push some metal on those statistics! >D

[Arrogance]

So I ended getting into Insomium thanks to a few of you guys! :confetti. Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Like I said earlier Melodic Death Metal isn't as easy for me to find here in the states but for you Europeans its like everywhere, lol. I ended up getting their albm Above The Weeping World from 2006 I believe and I'm really liking it a lot ;). I also noticd in doing my research of them that they are coming out or have already come out with a new album calld Across the Dark sometime this month. Does anyone have it and if so how is it?

[Agrias]

If you want to start on Melodic DM, try Children of Bodom, Arch Enemy, Hypocrisy, Norther and Dark Tranquility ("The Episode" album). If you want something a bit more complex, Opeth's "Blackwater Park" and "Deliverance". :3 I dunno this Insomnium yet, gonna check. :x

[Arrogance]

If you want to start on Melodic DM, try Children of Bodom, Arch Enemy, Hypocrisy, Norther and Dark Tranquility ("The Episode" album). If you want something a bit more complex, Opeth's "Blackwater Park" and "Deliverance". :3 I dunno this Insomnium yet, gonna check. :x
Well its not a start but more an expansion, lol. The Europeans have a wider access to a bunch of Melodic Death Metal bands in comparison to the states. I'm already into Bodom, Arch Enemy is on my list of bands to look into more, and Opeth I'm iffy about but have tried (I'll look more into them more too though for your sake ;)). The other ones I know nothing about :XD. I've noticed Dark Tranquility has been mentioned a lot here so I'll specifically look inot them next ;).

[CBlitz]

lol at never heard of Insomnium, they have some excellent stuff

[Dilandau]

So I ended getting into Insomium thanks to a few of you guys! :confetti. Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Like I said earlier Melodic Death Metal isn't as easy for me to find here in the states but for you Europeans its like everywhere, lol. I ended up getting their albm Above The Weeping World from 2006 I believe and I'm really liking it a lot ;). I also noticd in doing my research of them that they are coming out or have already come out with a new album calld Across the Dark sometime this month. Does anyone have it and if so how is it? Thanks for reminding me lol. A quick Youtube search and it turns out most of, if not all of the album is up already. I haven't heard much of it but from what I can tell it's great. It's a bit more Doom-Metal oriented from what I've heard so far. As for when it's released, according to Wikipedia it came out in Finland on the 9th of September and was released in the states on the 15th. It comes to Europe on the 28th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4VXehnieU

Oh, there's another Melo-death band I haven't recommended yet. Kalmah. They're a bit heavier than most bands I listen to but I love their use of keyboards.

[earthforge]

In the defense of Epica, the style relies of orchestra more. It is also easy to misjudge because the popular songs are generally the songs without death growls. IMHO Epica is nothing without the grunts. I guess it's a big mongrel, but I hardly see it as girly-operatic stuff. Epica isn't even as operatic as old Nightwish. Old Nightwish relied on heavy guitar and the operatic vocals of Tarya. So I dispute your characterization.

Within Temptation is also quite different from all of the above, pretty much because Sharon's voice is significantly dominant over all other instruments. Not really operatic, but certainly more popular and closer to rock style. I grew bored with them years ago, but I still feel they are unfairly generalized - after all, these bands are all better than listening to your retarded classmates play "Barbiegirl."

Melodic death metal's okay.

[Filler-nin]

Great thread!, I also enjoy metal music and im always looking for new bands to listen to. I listen to many bands, always Iron Maiden, i recently broke an arm and im forced to do cardio indoors, which sucks, but i started listening to some speed metal to keep up the rhythm. I’m starting to like this music, especially Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica.

[conn-man]

a few metal bands i've been listening to lately are born of osiris, arsonists get all the girls, suicide silence, and a few more. anyone else like this kind of metal?

seems like you have all been talking about a whole nother area of metal, arch enemy, inflames, and swedish death metal, im not to big on that stuff.

[CBlitz]

a few metal bands i've been listening to lately are born of osiris, arsonists get all the girls, suicide silence, and a few more. anyone else like this kind of metal?

seems like you have all been talking about a whole nother area of metal, arch enemy, inflames, and swedish death metal, im not to big on that stuff.

do you mean the heavy stuff like grunge? If so, is As I Lay Dying similar to what you're talking about?

[Arrogance]

a few metal bands i've been listening to lately are born of osiris, arsonists get all the girls, suicide silence, and a few more. anyone else like this kind of metal?

seems like you have all been talking about a whole nother area of metal, arch enemy, inflames, and swedish death metal, im not to big on that stuff.
lol, yea we were just talking about Melodic Death Metal for a while because thats just the topic that came up lol. Obviously you can talk about any form of Metal here ;).

Other than Melodic Death Metal I like quite a few Metalcore bands like Chimaira, Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, All That Remains, Killswitch Engage, Himsa(they broke up :scry), etc. I like some progressive metal too like Mastodon. So yea I just don't listen to Melodic Death Metal, lol, its just the topic that came up ATM ;).

[conn-man]

do you mean the heavy stuff like grunge? If so, is As I Lay Dying similar to what you're talking about?

grunge isnt really the right word, thats a whole nother genre..but yeah as i lay dying is along the same lines, if you like them check out the bands I listed.

[CBlitz]

grunge isnt really the right word, thats a whole nother genre..but yeah as i lay dying is along the same lines, if you like them check out the bands I listed.

suicide silence sounded pretty good, what are their best albums?

[conn-man]

they are still a fairly young band so they only have two albums out now, but the second one just came out this year and its sick, its called no time to bleed.

and if you liked them also look up the faceless and iwrestledabearonce(female vocalist, ALL the vocals, everyone should check them out.)

[Dilandau]

Some other non-melo-death bands I like are Russians Circles, Malabar Front and A Perfect Circle. All are progressive metal I think. Russian circles are a bit harder to classify as they incorporate so many different sub-genres of metal, but you could also refer to them as an instrumental band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyZ4z662v5w

My favourite song of theirs.

[Agrias]

I love love love love²³²³ A Perfect Circle, but I wouldn't group it as metal...it's prog rock like Porcupine Tree (that I love even more), Tool, Riverside and such, I guess =p
But well, labeling stuff sucks, all that matters is that it's awesome :3

[Googlez_kun]

i'm not so much into metal,though i like some stuff^^
actually i really love system of a down!!
i don't know if you can call soad a metal band,but it sure rocks!!!:headbang

[Arrogance]

i'm not so much into metal,though i like some stuff^^
actually i really love system of a down!!
i don't know if you can call soad a metal band,but it sure rocks!!!:headbang
OF COURSE YOU CAN CALL THEM METAL!!!!......CAUSE THEY ARE!!!....granted that their most recent albums weren't as metal as in the past as a whole thats their genre. I love SOAD, I really miss them though too :(. The only up side to the hiatus is Serj Tankian's solo album was pretty ill. Empty Wall and the Unthinking Majority are some of my favorites from that album. Supposedly he's making a second one too.

[no_regretsYSL]

I'm happy as hell that there is a METAL forum here! Top bands for me are:

Between the Buried and Me (BTBAM)
Mastodon
Opeth
All Shall Perish
August Burns Red
Red Chord/Within the Ruins

[Arrogance]

Kudos for the Mastodon ;). I just got my tickets to go see them live with Dethklok at the end of this month at the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EPICNESS!!!!

[conn-man]

anyone else listen to white chapel?

[CBlitz]

found this one site that does metal remixes of metroid songs, its pretty cool

http://www.metroidmetal.com/

[no_regretsYSL]

Kudos for the Mastodon ;). I just got my tickets to go see them live with Dethklok at the end of this month at the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EPICNESS!!!!

I got my ticket on Sunday finally! I'll be seeing them next tuesday at the Lifestyle Communities Pavilion in Columbus. Man this show will be so epic.

[Evil3ye]

Anyone else has heard Rammstein's new album Liebe ist für alles da already?

[CBlitz]

cool, Rammstein has a new album, gonna go check that out.

[thornofcarrion]

Anyone into Doom and Black metal?

[Agrias]

I hate Rammstein >.< From the new album, I've only watched the reeeeeeeeeeally controversial music video. Guess no one was paying much attention to the song though....(it sucked anyway).

Thorn, I like doom but not black. xD

[Evil3ye]

Eeh umm.. imo the single Pussy is far best song on the Lp tho' I find it's always weird when they try singin in English :d

So if you don't like it there's no need to get the album. Other quite enjoyable tracks are 'Liebe ist für alle da' and 'Roter Sand'. Roter Sand is a slow song, for fans of Ohne Dich and Rosenrot .. there are also some harder tracks like 'Waldmanns Heil' and 'Rammlied' for those who enjoy the hard Rammstein beats.

But don't think Rammstein became softy and all.. if you're looking for disturbing gore lyrics' like in Mein Teil 'Ich tu dir weh' is even sicker :blink

All in all I'd say it's a mediocre Lp, the only plus is that they've covered a lot of different genres and tastes with it, but like already said,.. I really could enjoy 2-3 tracks.

[Arrogance]

I really like Liebe Is Fur Alle Da IMO. Rammlied is epic, I especially like the Rammlied Thrash Remix that they supposedly got Machine Head to make for them, which is sweet. There is double bass throughout the whole thing :D. The song Waidmanns Heil and Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da are two of my favs. I agree that its not the "best" Rammstein album yet as a whole I still enjoy listening to it a lot.

[Googlez_kun]

i personally have to say that "Pussy" is something i like,eventhough his english is not the best,it kinda fits there,so well,the song is nice^^

[thornofcarrion]

Thorn, I like doom but not black. xD

That,s good to know. Can you name few of them, so I can get to know your taste a bit more?

Mine favorites are:


Thorns of the Carrion
Draconian
Forest of Shadows
Saturnus
Whispering Gallery
Hanging Garden


If you haven't listened them, you should give them a try. I am sure you wont be disappointed. My favorite song is "The Story of the Leaves" by Thorns of the Carrion. Its a majestic song, best flute played ever.

[CBlitz]

damn, Nightwish's GLS is so awesome, there is something so kickass about orchestral metal

[Paper]

Holy crap!?!?!?!? Where was I when this thread was created???

I mainly listen to NWOBHM, Death, Thrash, Heavy, and Hair. Not really a big fan of NWOAHM, or what normally passes off as "heavy music" nowadays (I also have a deep seeded hate for bands with DJ's and/ rappers).

Fave Bands:
1. Iron Maiden
2. Rush
3. Dio
4. Van Halen
5. Mr.Big (Not heavy, but Billy and Paul are friggin' gods!)
6. Black Sabbath
7. Judas Priest
8. Megadeth (ONLY with Dave Ellefson)
9. Metallica (ONLY with Cliff Burton)
10. Arch Enemy
11. Dethklok
12. Mercyful Fate/ King Diamond
13. Children of Bodom
14. Hammerfall
15. KISS (again, not really heavy, but they were the catalists for a lot of the great bands we have these days)

[thornofcarrion]

Holy crap!?!?!?!? Where was I when this thread was created???

I mainly listen to NWOBHM, Death, Thrash, Heavy, and Hair. Not really a big fan of NWOAHM, or what normally passes off as "heavy music" nowadays (I also have a deep seeded hate for bands with DJ's and/ rappers).

Fave Bands:
1. Iron Maiden
2. Rush
3. Dio
4. Van Halen
5. Mr.Big (Not heavy, but Billy and Paul are friggin' gods!)
6. Black Sabbath
7. Judas Priest
8. Megadeth (ONLY with Dave Ellefson)
9. Metallica (ONLY with Cliff Burton)
10. Arch Enemy
11. Dethklok
12. Mercyful Fate/ King Diamond
13. Children of Bodom
14. Hammerfall
15. KISS (again, not really heavy, but they were the catalists for a lot of the great bands we have these days)

I see some oldies, have listened to them all except for Dethklok. Mr. Big reminds of Wild World, it used to be one of my favorite ballad at one time. Your list is pretty much a-must list for anyone listening to rock/metal.

[Paper]

I mainly listen to old metal. The newer ones that are out nowadays it just a bit too noisy, and a tad too "processed" for my taste.

[thornofcarrion]

I mainly listen to old metal. The newer ones that are out nowadays it just a bit too noisy, and a tad too "processed" for my taste.

Indeed, I also don't listen to the new age heavy metal. The music has evolved and I don't like experimenting with the original sound that heavy metal used to have.

[Paper]

Well, I am open to change, my only problem is that with the recent changes guitar and bass tones have deteriorated. Guitarists just go for the most aggressive tones they can find, where as bassists compromise tone just to be heard... It's a sad thing, specially for a musician like me.

[CBlitz]

which is why I mostly listen to melodic metal :D

[Drmke]

I don't really listen to a lot of metal.....but here's a list of a few I like:

Slipknot (don't like most of the newer stuff)
Rage Against The Machine
Atreyu
Bullet For My Valentine
Slayer
Five Finger Death Punch
Tool
Avenged Sevenfold (maybe metal?)
Korn
Disturbed

And there is probably more I just have a bad memory. I really like Metalcore and Nu Metal the best. Don't like Black and Death Metal. And I'm like the only person at my school who is not obsessed with Metallica (especially since Guitar Hero), I only like like 4 or 5 of their songs at best. Just not my thing.

[Dive]

Oh look, a metal thread. I used to be really into metal, but then I started listening to Springsteen and kinda mellowed out from there, but I still love listening to metal, and blasting it in my car. ;)

Favorite bands include:

Children of Bodom, Wintersun, Finntroll, Dark Tranquillity, X Japan, the Black Mages...

Some At the Gates is rad, so is Ensiferum. Rush too if you want to count them.

[Arrogance]

I don't really listen to a lot of metal.....but here's a list of a few I like:

Slipknot (don't like most of the newer stuff)
Rage Against The Machine
Atreyu
Bullet For My Valentine
Slayer
Five Finger Death Punch
Tool
Avenged Sevenfold (maybe metal?)
Korn
Disturbed

And there is probably more I just have a bad memory. I really like Metalcore and Nu Metal the best. Don't like Black and Death Metal. And I'm like the only person at my school who is not obsessed with Metallica (especially since Guitar Hero), I only like like 4 or 5 of their songs at best. Just not my thing.
Yes, Avenged Sevenfold is metal, lol. Especially their older stuff like Waking the Fallen and City of Evil. They are working on a newer album from what I hear. I can't wait for that, I could use something new from them right about now, lol.

[Drmke]

Yes, Avenged Sevenfold is metal, lol. Especially their older stuff like Waking the Fallen and City of Evil. They are working on a newer album from what I hear. I can't wait for that, I could use something new from them right about now, lol.

I hear so much crap about what is and isn't metal nowadays, I don't even like to risk it lol I used to be real into Avenged Sevenfold but recently I just don't seem to care about them as much. Their new album doesn't excite me at all. If they make songs like Critical Acclaim and Scream then I will probably be happy (P.S. those were my favorite songs of their latest album :o) but even though I like Afterlife, I hope they don't put out another song like it cause it will probably get overplayed and make me want to shoot my tv and radio like Afterlife did.

[Arrogance]

I hear so much crap about what is and isn't metal nowadays, I don't even like to risk it lol I used to be real into Avenged Sevenfold but recently I just don't seem to care about them as much. Their new album doesn't excite me at all. If they make songs like Critical Acclaim and Scream then I will probably be happy (P.S. those were my favorite songs of their latest album :o) but even though I like Afterlife, I hope they don't put out another song like it cause it will probably get overplayed and make me want to shoot my tv and radio like Afterlife did.
lol, you are right in saying that the genre of metal has gotten so vast that it is hard to clarify what is metal. I have some confidence in doing so because I actually took the time to try and figure most of it out and in general I have a good feel for a good part of it. By all means there are sooooooo many sub-genres of metal that can easily be disputed only to have no resolution. Most bands these days fall under 2 or more of these sub-genres so it is easy to say that one band can fit multiple characteristics of a these said genres.

As for A7X, their newer album is less heavier than their other ones. They kinda broke out of the "metal" scene for some of their songs, like Dear God and Afterlife. You still see their heavy side in songs like Critical Acclaim and Scream as you mentioned yourself. As a band they are still metal, but they ventured into lighter territory with some parts of the album. I still liked it though, just not as much as their earlier albums. I am hoping their new album in the works does take a step back though and gets a bit more heavier :D.
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So I was trying to look for some new bands using Pandora and came across this really interesting band Eluveitie. They are like a Celtic Melodic Death Metal band. They've got bag pipes and everything along with their death growls and double bass, lol. Its an interesting mix but I am really enjoying it a lot. Plus I'm of Irish ethnicity so I kinda have a natural taste for some Irish music anyway. Its just really cool to have these two types of music mash up together. :D

[thornofcarrion]

Tales of Dark-Of Grandiose Fevers and Passion Arcane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE05pVfEb8k) is one of my favorite song. Great vocals, great lyrics, .......just try it. Its not the full song, shortened for video.

[Adorien]

I'm not so much into metal, but I just LOVE Judas Priest.

[Paper]

No one can go wrong with Priest.

[thornofcarrion]

They were like the first metal band that I heard wayyyyyyy back. They are legends in their own rank. Painkiller was just an amazing album.

Anyone listened to Fight, the band that Rob made. It was good. I guess with Rob's vocals every band was bound to sound good. I am sure most of you have read it already (Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Halford#Fight.2C_2wo_and_Halford)).

[Paper]

Never listened to it. To be honest, I never really liked the idea of Halford being out of Priest. It just doesn't sit well with me.

[thornofcarrion]

Just give it a try, the sounded decent to me.

I am so excited for the Lost Dreams new offering Wage of Disgrace. Check the new video for Fear Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7uD3PFMtws).
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For a little less heavy, try this one Macbeth - Black Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHF9IONj6X4). Its a great great song.

[Paper]

Fight- It sounds different... REALLY different from Priest. Being a huge Priest fan, I'm a bit disappointed.

Lost Dreams- They're good! Their vocalist looks like an emo band reject, but they actually sound good.

Macbeth- They sound like Epica, only less epic...hmhmhm...

[cua_raitei]

I do like Metal especially "post-hardcore" music

escapethefate, blessthefall, a skylit drive, a day to remember, the blackout, hopesdielast .....

[CBlitz]

been getting into viking metal recently, and holy crap Equilibrium is awesome. Their SAGAS album is fantastic

[thornofcarrion]

Viking Metal, do try Falkenbach, Folkearth, Finntroll.

[Dive]

Finntroll is so awesome. Ensiferum is rad too.

[thornofcarrion]

My all time favorite song:

The Story of the Leaves by Thorns of the Carrion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvcVX8uuHlg).

Another great song:

Company in Solitude by Garden of Shadows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtXbsfRiRac)

[BBB Banana]

So I'm spaming in the general entertainement section.

I like metal very much not my favorite genre (wich is hard rock) but I like Black Sabath, Ozzy, AC/DC, Metallica, Black Label Society and Marilyn Manson (I was corrupted by a frind of mine :P )

[Arrogance]

So the creator of the Metal Thread is back! After taking a few months off from mangahelpers due to getting a virus and school I have returned more metal than ever! lol

Lately Ive been listening to a few new bands I found. One of them being Threat Signal which is pretty sick.

I also recently got the newest Eluveitie album and thats been keeping me entertained. What I like about Eluveitie a lot is how they incorporate celtic/folk into the metal genre. It really hits home since I am half Irish and I have even got my dad listening to it who is Irish as well but not as into Death Metal and Metalcore as I am.

Also surprisingly enough I started listening to Limp Bizkit. I originally did not like them at all because of his rap but a lot of the Rap Metal songs like Rollin and Boiler are pretty sick.
[hr]
...So today, May 16th at 7:45pm.....Ronnie James Dio died of stomach cancer. He was fighting it for many months and was just on his seventh round of chemo therapy when I guess enough was a enough and he finally passed at 67 years of age. For those who don't know Dio was the lead singer for Black Sabbath after Ozzy left and they had many strong years going. Also Dio sang for other bands like Rainbow and even went solo for a while giving us great songs such as "Holy Diver" which was covered by Killswitch Engage (just to give a reference for those who don't know him but might know the song). Lately Dio got back together with the Black Sabbath guys under the name Heaven and Hell and I was blessed to get to see them perform live in New York City last year. One of the best performances I have ever seen in that he was 66 and could still rock harder than the average young band. He was really something special and was devoted to his work and was fortunately for me a big corner stone of my personal metal preference and music collection. Metal is a great part of my life and without Dio something would have been missing from it. The only other information I have is from his official website which has the statement his wife Wendy made: http://www.ronniejamesdio.com/ Best wishes to her in getting through this tough time.

[Aazholh]

So the creator of the Metal Thread is back! After taking a few months off from mangahelpers due to getting a virus and school I have returned more metal than ever! lol

Lately Ive been listening to a few new bands I found. One of them being Threat Signal which is pretty sick.

I also recently got the newest Eluveitie album and thats been keeping me entertained. What I like about Eluveitie a lot is how they incorporate celtic/folk into the metal genre. It really hits home since I am half Irish and I have even got my dad listening to it who is Irish as well but not as into Death Metal and Metalcore as I am.

Also surprisingly enough I started listening to Limp Bizkit. I originally did not like them at all because of his rap but a lot of the Rap Metal songs like Rollin and Boiler are pretty sick.
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...So today, May 16th at 7:45pm.....Ronnie James Dio died of stomach cancer. He was fighting it for many months and was just on his seventh round of chemo therapy when I guess enough was a enough and he finally passed at 67 years of age. For those who don't know Dio was the lead singer for Black Sabbath after Ozzy left and they had many strong years going. Also Dio sang for other bands like Rainbow and even went solo for a while giving us great songs such as "Holy Diver" which was covered by Killswitch Engage (just to give a reference for those who don't know him but might know the song). Lately Dio got back together with the Black Sabbath guys under the name Heaven and Hell and I was blessed to get to see them perform live in New York City last year. One of the best performances I have ever seen in that he was 66 and could still rock harder than the average young band. He was really something special and was devoted to his work and was fortunately for me a big corner stone of my personal metal preference and music collection. Metal is a great part of my life and without Dio something would have been missing from it. The only other information I have is from his official website which has the statement his wife Wendy made: http://www.ronniejamesdio.com/ Best wishes to her in getting through this tough time.

Yeah, it's been a real shitty day learning about Ronnie Jame Dio's demise. I thought he was getting better, but apparently not.

I recently got into Finnish metal band Armour and created a vid to support them and my favorite manga, Berserk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNM5GOQCko

[Arrogance]

Yeah, it's been a real shitty day learning about Ronnie Jame Dio's demise. I thought he was getting better, but apparently not.

I recently got into Finnish metal band Armour and created a vid to support them and my favorite manga, Berserk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNM5GOQCko
Shitty indeed. And welcome to MH on such a shitty note, lol. Thanks for posting on this thread as well. I haven't heard Armour before but that link sounds pretty good so far. I'll look into them some more. ;-)

[Paper]

RIP Ronnie James Dio.

In tribute to him, why don't we all post links to our favorite Dio tunes?

This is mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8sWbssgr6s

[Aazholh]

Here's my favorite from Dio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKaCpm6pPE

[Arrogance]

So I was listening to my sirius radio the other day to the liquid metal station and came across this band Knives Out! They have an EP out and are working on their first album but so far I'm liking what I hear. They are catchy and unique and I hear a hint of Korn-like vocal style in there music. It doesn't sound exactly like Korn but there are times I hear a tint of it within the vocal style. Overall I like them a lot and I can't wait till they have an album out. Here's the myspace in case anyone else is interested: Knives Out! Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/knivesout1)

[thornofcarrion]

Hope you enjoy these songs...

Bumblebee Hair - At dawn they sleep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONI1wKHgzY)

At Dawn They Sleep - Lovelorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-GMR40cJU&feature=related)

Dawn of Dreams - Eidolon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Ervx_2L-M)

[Arrogance]

Hope you enjoy these songs...

Bumblebee Hair - At dawn they sleep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONI1wKHgzY)

At Dawn They Sleep - Lovelorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-GMR40cJU&feature=related)

Dawn of Dreams - Eidolon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Ervx_2L-M)
Hmm. Musically I like them but I'm not a huge fan of the growls. It sounds like old Amon Amarth which I'm not too big of a fan. If anything I like Bumblebee Hair the most out of all of them cause the growl isn't too bad in that one. Who knows maybe it will grow on me over time, lol. Thanks Thorn :D

[thornofcarrion]

My pleasure. Guess I will keep on posting growls until you are addicted ;). Bumblebee Hair is wonderful song. Have you heard Sentenced, Poison Black and Aim I Blood?

Here is a nice song for you Saturnine - The Gathering (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afd6xHvKBtU). Hope you'll like it.

[Arrogance]

My pleasure. Guess I will keep on posting growls until you are addicted ;). Bumblebee Hair is wonderful song. Have you heard Sentenced, Poison Black and Aim I Blood?

Here is a nice song for you Saturnine - The Gathering (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afd6xHvKBtU). Hope you'll like it.
Unfortunately I have not hear any of those. What are the specific genres if I may ask? I'm more personally into Melodic Death Metal and Metalcore but I bounce around from time to time to some Thrash bands and Heavy Metal bands in general.

Thats funny that you posted that song because I've been in a big Evanescence, Fireflight, and Lacuna Coil mood lately. There are times I can really get into the female singer you picked an appropriate time, lol. I like it, its a little mellow but it makes me want to look into their other songs :).

[BBB Banana]

Latelly I've been listening to Megadeth a lot.

I saw an interview with Dave Mustaine at guitar center's channel on youtube and got really interested in his personalitty and guitar riffs (also saw other interviews and some guitar lesson with him). Until I found out my father was a fan of megadeth and had a few cds from them and I decided to check them out.

And that's how I found out about this awesome band.

[Paper]

Megadeth is great, but I only like them with Dave Ellefson. I'm not saying that James Lomenzo is bad, it's just that Dave Ellefson is the reason to why I like the band in the first place (more power to aggressive bassists that don't back down against the guitars!).

Dave Ellefson has recently rejoined Megadeth and I'm really hoping he stays.

[thornofcarrion]

Megadeth was one of my favorite way back. But I don't like their sound in last 2-3 albums.

@Arrogance: I think you will like them. They are more heavy metalish bands. The vocalist of Am I Blood sounds so much like David Hetfield. When I heard it first time, I thought David Hetfield started a new band.

[BBB Banana]

I heard Dave mustaine saying that he wanted megadeth to get back to their old sound fomr rust in peace and stuff since he said they were getting softer.
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So guys on the news about Ronnie Dio check out this bullsh*t that some church wrote.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/ronnie_james_dio_baptist_church_to_picket_public_memorial_service.html

Seriously O.o I'm christian and all but this is just plain stupid and they talk as if every metal listener is a devil worshipper.

[Arrogance]

@thorn: HETFIELD IN A NEW BAND!! PROPOSTERPOUS!!!! :yelling

.........lol

@Banana: I'm a hardcore catholic and I think thats bull crap, lol. I as a catholic and someone who also loves metal, I knew when and where to draw my line. I pretty much stop at black metal because that is when the stuff gets satanic. There are many death metal bands that I know that have inspiring lyrics and I think its completely stupid to assume that all metal is bad from a theological and experiential standpoint. Its not like Dio was the best christian but at the same time he wasn't an asshole and he didn't promote negative things in his music.

[Paper]

My mom is a jesus-freak and she raised me as one too (there was a point in my life where I started brining a bible to school). But as I grew older and matured, I realized that religion was made by man, and no man is free of flaw. With this said, I don't think I'll be going back or going to any form of faith or religion any time soon. This life is too short for us to confine ourselves in rules that hamper our progress as humans.

Here in the Philippines, Metal was given a bad rep by Christian fanatics who claimed that all forms of rock music is from the devil (my mom included). This way of thinking carried on till the mid 90's, and rock music has only recently been accepted by the general populace (albeit, the wrong kind of rock). Though that may be, we do have a vast underground metal scene here; they don't make much money and record labels won't sign them on, but they're as brutal as they come!

[Arrogance]

O man, so I got the new Pendulum album, they are a drum & bass group that I love for...well....the bass, lol. But I was VERY excited to see that they did a song with In Flames. It is such an amazing mixup. Like I've heard many industrial songs from in flames with synthesizers and electronic sound effects in the background but this song takes that to another level. Its literally got the drum & bass back beat behind the band and it fits really well. Also the vocalists switch back and forth giving it this nice mellow yet epic feel to it. I truly love this song and find it to be a great mash up of two different genres that I would never had expected to ever here. Heres the song for those that are interested :) Pendulum feat. In Flames - Self vs. Self (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcha-aUSplE)

[DanielKnoT]

Ohh my god... I cant beleive, that #2 Paul Gray from Slipknot is dead

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1639900/20100524/slipknot.jhtml

Is this the end for one of the best band in rock music??

R.I.P #2

[Arrogance]

Ohh my god... I cant beleive, that #2 Paul Gray from Slipknot is dead

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1639900/20100524/slipknot.jhtml

Is this the end for one of the best band in rock music??

R.I.P #2
DAAAAAAAAAAAMN, and I was just getting past Dio dying too. Sheesh. Well unlike Heaven and Hell which Dio was a major part of so I don't see them continuing, Slipknot will be able to go on. It is sad that it has to be that way but look to Avenged Sevenfold for example. When their drummer Rev died last year, they had to face the same problems. For now they didn't get a new drummer but instead the drummer from Dream Theater, Mike Portnoy is filling in by helping the band to finish their new album and is touring with them in the Rock Star Mayhem Uproar Tour. The beauty of this was that Portnoy was Rev's favorite drummer of all time and then to have his favorite drummer do something for him is just something awesome. So that is one recent and major example of how to handle the situation. I really don't know what to expect Slipknot to do but I'm sure they will still keep going on.

[DanielKnoT]

Yeah man, I hope so..

If METALLICA did it when Cliff Burton died, Slipknot should continue as well.

I love Slipknot...!!

[thornofcarrion]

Many of the bands go through break-ups, with members leaving all the time. The scenario is somewhat the same, with exception that a member has passed away. I think they will carry on. Hard to imagine breaking up a band as successful as Slipknot.

[Arrogance]

Yeah man, I hope so..

If METALLICA did it when Cliff Burton died, Slipknot should continue as well.

I love Slipknot...!!
Right, they will, but its just something that takes time. Like thorn said it is similar to just having a band member leaving, the only thing is that this process takes a much longer time to get through. See with having a band member leave there is no mourning or resentment involved in getting a new member and you can easily find a replacement in a month. But look at Avenged Sevenfold, Rev has been dead for a year and instead of just finding a new member they got a friend to play in tribute to him. I can only imagine that once the tour is over next year what they are going to do. Yes Portnoy drumming for them is a tribute but its not a solution to Rev's open spot. If anything it is prolonging the inevitable of having to replace their fallen comrade. So overall is is similar to a member leaving but there is a lot more baggage that comes with a death making it a much harder and longer process to get through.

[Paper]

I'm sorry, but did you just compare Cliff Burton era Metallica to Slipknot? I realize that musical taste is to each his own, but you just can't compare one of the forefathers of American Heavy Metal to that thing... It's just unthinkable, even if you're not a purist.

Cliff Burton was a god. Though he didn't revolutionize anything, he did inspire more bassists to be more aggressive and take a stand to not just be part of the background. The moment he died, he took Metallica along with him. Can you really say that about Paul Gray?

*commence the flaming of NWOAHM fans*

[Arrogance]

I'm sorry, but did you just compare Cliff Burton era Metallica to Slipknot? I realize that musical taste is to each his own, but you just can't compare one of the forefathers of American Heavy Metal to that thing... It's just unthinkable, even if you're not a purist.

Cliff Burton was a god. Though he didn't revolutionize anything, he did inspire more bassists to be more aggressive and take a stand to not just be part of the background. The moment he died, he took Metallica along with him. Can you really say that about Paul Gray?

*commence the flaming of NWOAHM fans*
No one is really comparing the greatness of people or eras of bands. Whats being discussed is how bands cope and deal with the loss of a member. Slipknot did great things yet I wouldn't dare put them at the level of Metallica....who in their right mind would. But its just a matter of looking at other bands, seeing how they deal with a loss, and seeing if they can take a lesson from them in moving on.

[Paper]

I just take offense when someone as great as Cliff Burton is put along the ranks of lesser musicians. The man was the reason to why I picked up my bass with pride (as my skill and taste matured, I moved on to bassists that proved be more challenging) moved on to .

[Arrogance]

Well thats one thing but at the same time your reaction makes it look like your putting down Paul Gray (even if your not trying to I'm just respectfully letting you know it looks that way) and is that even necessary at this time? The dude just died, your mourn the man, not disrespect him. Yea he may have not been Cliff Burton but he was still part of freakin Slipknot which has done a lot in its own way. Slipknot won a grammy, how many times do you see a metal band like that make it to the grammys and show all those pop morons whats what! And just like anyone else who dies Paul was a human. At this point its not about saying who is better than who but remembering what he did that was great. Either way its still another loss and blow to the metal world and we should all be sad for that.

[Paper]

I wasn't putting him down as a person, but the band... I may have to take that stance on the matter. Grammies or any other music award shouldn't matter for metal bands.

[Arrogance]

I wasn't putting him down as a person, but the band... I may have to take that stance on the matter. Grammies or any other music award shouldn't matter for metal bands.
You can, and I'm not saying grammys matter in metal either. But the one thing metal heads don't like is the lack of representation they get by mainstream media. Like all the horrible shit they call music these days and yet they put metal down. The grammy itself isn't really the case but its the fact that a metal band got it and for once got to infiltrate this mainstream pop world that the grammys mostly surround and show them what real music is. For me and for many that means something. Metallica OBVIOUSLY has done much more but at the same time and as a metal head Slipknot should be respected for doing something like that. I love Metallica and I put them way beyond Slipknot but just because of their differences I'm not gonna judge Slipknot because of what Metallica has done.

[Paper]

Mainstream media can do without metal. Once metal becomes mainstream it turns into a dumbed down version of it's former self for the sheep that want to follow the crowd, but not take on the lifestyle.

I'm not comparing the two bands... In fact, i strongly dissuade people from doing so.

[Arrogance]

Mainstream media can do without metal. Once metal becomes mainstream it turns into a dumbed down version of it's former self for the sheep that want to follow the crowd, but not take on the lifestyle.

I'm not comparing the two bands... In fact, i strongly dissuade people from doing so.
I definitely would not compare the two, their musical styles aren't even the same nor is the stage presence obviously, lol. You are right that metal is not for mainstream but it is nice once in a while to give it to the mainstream that puts out all this stupid shit like justin bieber and hannah montana and call that music. Metal is better not being in the mainstream media but it is nice for them to take it on once in a while and that is what I see Slipknot as doing. If anything it became more of an invasion of the grammys, not that the grammys were accepting them. I'd like to think of them of spies that infiltrated the mainstream and then went to reek havoc from the inside out.

[Paper]

While the music scene right now is absolutely horrible. I believe that the current outlive and outlast method is working quite well. We have seen quite a number of fads pass by and fade away, while true metal fans and supporters live on. I believe that metal is only for the strong willed and the weak should just be content with whatever the media feeds them... they're not worthy.

[DanielKnoT]

I'm sorry, but did you just compare Cliff Burton era Metallica to Slipknot? I realize that musical taste is to each his own, but you just can't compare one of the forefathers of American Heavy Metal to that thing... It's just unthinkable, even if you're not a purist.

Cliff Burton was a god. Though he didn't revolutionize anything, he did inspire more bassists to be more aggressive and take a stand to not just be part of the background. The moment he died, he took Metallica along with him. Can you really say that about Paul Gray?

*commence the flaming of NWOAHM fans*

Jejejeje I just see this comment today.. :D :D :D

Man are you crazy?? Dont you see my Avatar???... Please, I love and Respect METALLICA like nobody else..

I was just using the example thats all...

But it is strange that you say this The moment he died, he took Metallica along with him

Metallica did the most amazing records in Rock History (Master of Puppets and And Justice for All) and became in one of the biggest band without Cliff.. :s :blink

[Paper]

Cliff Burton was with them for the first three records: Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets.

From a musical standpoint, the band stopped maturing after Cliff's departure, and even started to regress in the albums that came after Justice for All. They just continued with the SSDD, till they eventually took an epic dump on the fans and released shit albums like Load and Reload (along with everything else that came after those two). Metallica is the perfect example for a great band that sold. Cliff is basically the embodiment of their principles and beliefs, and when he died the band no longer had the courage to go against the status quo. Metallica isn't the only band that's like this, there are several other bands that I grew to love and hate all because they gave in to the whims of the status quo: Guns n' Roses, Van Halen, In Flames to name a few... all bands that I've loved, but soon turned into shit when they sold out... I'd even add Iron Maiden to that list, and I'm a die hard Maiden fan!

Though selling out may be the bane that corrupts the Metal world, it is an unavoidable path that a band goes through once they've reached a certain level of fame and fortune. The only way they can regain their former glory is to produce new songs that are on par/ better than the tracks on their previous non-sellout album

[DanielKnoT]

I allways hear comments like this about Metallica, or Gun´s, Iron Maiden, etc, etc and I still dont unterstand why people say this.. "they sold out"

I personally like a band that constantly evolves, tries different stuff... If a band stays in a sound or style for their entire life they will never grow or reach certain status.

Examples.. The record Master of Puppets was incredible, extremly fast, and powerfull. Pure Trash Metal, but then comes And Justice for All was amazing with a better sound, more refined, combinations of fast and slow tempos and still this was a great album.

What can I say about the Black Album? Here, all the people start saying that they sold out. Like it or Not, was an amazing album, they didnt made those long songs of 7 or 8 minutes to start getting space in TV and Radio (This was a Bad move?), different sound, different style, and still was an amazing album. (22 million records sold)

Is boring when a band make the same records with the same style over and over and over again, you get tired...

This is why bands like Megadeth, Anthrax or Slayer for example, stayed behind compared to Metallica, and this is why Metallica is considered one of the best and the most influential band in ROCK!!!! Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

And Cliff.. He was great, but Jason and Robert are not behind.. I never been in a live concert of Metallica with Cliff in the Bass (I have 25 years), but all the concerts that I´ve been with Jason or Robert in bass.. OMG

[Paper]

Read what I typed closely. I want bands to change, but I want them to change for the better. Metallica has done nothing but regress since the death of Cliff; they lost their roots.

Anthrax is stagnant, Slayer is stagnant, but Megadeth has evolved many times over (for both bad and good). It takes a keen ear to notice that they went from pure thrash to thrash with neo-classical and jazz influences. I'd rather see a band stagnate and remain in with the hard core fans than see them lose their die hard supporters. Evolution is a great thing if a band manages to keep their roots as they progress.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but I'm completely adamant with my stance on music. Jason and Robert are clowns compared to Cliff. The bass lines after Cliff's unfortunate departure have been dull and over simplified. How simple you ask? I was able to learn "enter sandman" over the phone while my friend played it on his stereo (I didn't own a copy of the album, and we had to perform it within the week).

The rock and roll hall of fame is nothing but a farce now. It's based on fame and money, not skill. As for music videos... They're nice to have for exposure, but they should never be in the top ten list of accomplishments for a metal band... Like I've said before, metal is no for the weak. I don't expect the sheep to understand metal, and to dumb metal down for the sheep to consume is a complete travesty and would only result in mediocre pop bands that use distortion to label themselves as a metal band...The very thought of it makes me cringe.

[DanielKnoT]

Read what I typed closely. I want bands to change, but I want them to change for the better. Metallica has done nothing but regress since the death of Cliff; they lost their roots.

Anthrax is stagnant, Slayer is stagnant, but Megadeth has evolved many times over (for both bad and good). It takes a keen ear to notice that they went from pure thrash to thrash with neo-classical and jazz influences. I'd rather see a band stagnate and remain in with the hard core fans than see them lose their die hard supporters. Evolution is a great thing if a band manages to keep their roots as they progress.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but I'm completely adamant with my stance on music. Jason and Robert are clowns compared to Cliff. The bass lines after Cliff's unfortunate departure have been dull and over simplified. How simple you ask? I was able to learn "enter sandman" over the phone while my friend played it on his stereo (I didn't own a copy of the album, and we had to perform it within the week).

The rock and roll hall of fame is nothing but a farce now. It's based on fame and money, not skill. As for music videos... They're nice to have for exposure, but they should never be in the top ten list of accomplishments for a metal band... Like I've said before, metal is no for the weak. I don't expect the sheep to understand metal, and to dumb metal down for the sheep to consume is a complete travesty and would only result in mediocre pop bands that use distortion to label themselves as a metal band...The very thought of it makes me cringe.

I completely understands you.. :)

But lets say, that if you are in a band and you wanna be succesfull, sometimes you have to sold your soul to the devil, and by devil i mean TV, Radio, MTV, Grammys, Music Industry Corporations, etc. Do I like it? NO, but it is like that..

Is very difficult, be that succesfull staying in your own style and roots. There are hundreds of examples of bands that made an amazing and great first record and then they become crap, and in these days is even more frequent.

If you see it as a fan point of view, of course you will say that they sold out.. But try to see it as a member of the band.. Or any band...

[BBB Banana]

And I might add that sometimes you have to sell you soul to guitar hero or Rock band :(

I hate that game and lots of people who think that know metallica (and other bands) only they play a dozen of songs on guitar hero the possibillity of a megadeth guitar hero creeps me out. But even if this kids say they are fans they only care about the band until the master the game.

[Paper]

I have seen it from a band PoV. I've jumped from one band to another over the years, trying to make it big... I've decided to stick with my current band, and I don't care if we make it big. It's the musical integrity that matters. I'd rather take a cheese grater to my groin than sell out.

I find that guitar hero/rock band is just plain silly. I've tried playing them, and by god... Playing the actual song on an actual guitar/bass is miles easier than those silly guitar shaped controllers. I don't think they should call it "guitar hero" or "rock band". More like "Guitar for the musically handicapped" or "Tard Band"...

[BBB Banana]

I totally agree with you Guitar Hero can be fun but only for someone who doesnt play an actual instrument because the song timing and stuff has nothing to do with the game timing and that can be confusing. My friends make fun of me for being a total noo b at guitar hero but then I pwn all of them on real guitar.

Usually I go to a store where we can play GH whenever I go to Mc donalds with my friends. I kind of like when people at the store make fun of me is that normal? But then again most of them never played anything besides a plastic flute.

[Hystzen]

only just found this im picky with bands but if i go say metal bands would be

1. Dir En Grey
2. Bullet for Valentine
3. Slipknot (rip paul gray)
4. Of Mice and Men
5. Alexisonfire
6. August Burns Red
7. Atreyu
8. A Day To Remember (listen to heartless they are)
9. 36 Crazyfists
10. Killswitch Engage

in 2 weeks be at my festival of choice here in UK....yes ill be seeing these epic headliners
here line up- http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/lineup/index.aspx

last year was imense got to see Dir En Grey do first ever UK festival

[BBB Banana]

Who in here listens to Rob Zombie? And if you do listen to him what do you think of John5 joining him?

[Arrogance]

I just started listening to Rob Zombie because I was planning to go to Rockstar Mayhem Festival this summer where he is headlining with Korn. I just got into him and don't know all his music yet but I'm liking it. So I don't know how big the impact of him joining would be but it is something I am curious about and am looking forward to seeing/hearing.

[BBB Banana]

Wow guys I just came back from one of the most epic shows ever (for me)

I've seen a brazilian band called sofly, they were pretty good and full of energy.

Then Motorhead and I got pretty worried because they played one song and the equipement failed but they came in a few minutes.

There was also Megadeth wich was the main reason I went to the festival.

And lastly Ramstein who were headlining the event It was cool but I'm not really a fan (and I don't think they should be headlining whit such legends on stage)

[Arrogance]

Wow guys I just came back from one of the most epic shows ever (for me)

I've seen a brazilian band called sofly, they were pretty good and full of energy.

Then Motorhead and I got pretty worried because they played one song and the equipement failed but they came in a few minutes.

There was also Megadeth wich was the main reason I went to the festival.

And lastly Ramstein who were headlining the event It was cool but I'm not really a fan (and I don't think they should be headlining whit such legends on stage)
RAMMSTEIN!!!! I'm jealous!!!! :shakefist

I'm in America so Rammstein doesn't tour here so I'm really disappointed. Personally I would have rather seen Rammstein over Megadeth. I know they are a huge band but I'm just not that into them. Overall it would have been a cool show to see either way with all the big names that were there. Lucky Bastard ;). lol

[DanielKnoT]

What festival was that? Download festival??? Rock am Ring?

And RAMMSTEIN???.. That is the only band that I havent see yet live.. Those guys are amazing, specially with the pyrotechnics....

Look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e502auOnLuA&feature=player_embedded)

[Arrogance]

Hahaha, I know man. The Pyrotechnics are NUTS!. Other than the music thats another reason why I'm dying to see them. This one is also one of my favorites ;). Rammstein - Rammstein (Live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9z-9RdwwM)

[BBB Banana]

It was in Rock in Rio Lisbon sometimes they do have good band and this was one of those times XD

Yeah I only know a few songs from ramstein and that's why I couldn't enjoy it to the maximum but I'll check some more stuff from them since I liked the show.

[Arrogance]

Does anyone here listen to Heaven Shall Burn? This one song is so freakin epic by them! I need to share it with everyone! lol. Check it out guys and let me know what you think :). Heaven Shall Burn - Endzeit (with Awoken Intro) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfAiqLRR9w&fmt=18)

[DanielKnoT]

Man that is SICK!!! :blink

I never hear that band before... The drums are amazing..

It makes me wanna break something :mad :D

:chair

[Arrogance]

Yea man! Its really epic. It goes nicely with Chimaira. Two bands that really rock the house. Like I go driving with my friend sometimes whose got these awesome sub woofers. You figure most people with those blast rap, but man we blast metal. The double bass is just so intense and shakes everything. This is just one of the best songs for that. In general I love this song. I'm never not in the mood for it either, lol. Vocals are nuts, the implementation of the piano is crazy, the whole thing is just epic! :D

[BBB Banana]

So guys do you know that today June 1st was the worldwide release date for Black Sabath's Black Sabath?

So this day could kind of be considered the birth of Metal and it's been 40 years today that the first metal album was released all around the world so this is a day to celebrate.

[Arrogance]

So guys do you know that today June 1st was the worldwide release date for Black Sabath's Black Sabath?

So this day could kind of be considered the birth of Metal and it's been 40 years today that the first metal album was released all around the world so this is a day to celebrate.
Lol, this is true. Except your a little bit late. Its now 10:03pm here and the day is almost over :darn. Thats cool though. I didn't know that today was the anniversary for that album.

[BBB Banana]

Yeah in my country it was a bit late but I figured that in some places it was still june 1st so it was at least worth mentioning.

[cua_raitei]

Have you ppl heard "burgerkill"
they are from my country


Go Indonesian Metal !!

[Arrogance]

Hey! Welcome to mangehelpers and thanks for posting in this thread :). Indonesian Metal :s lol I haven't heard much of that. I just checked out burgerkill on myspace. Not bad, I'm not liking the vocals too much though. A little rough to my liking but its a possibility that its just how its recorded. When the vocalist does deeper growls is where I find I'm liking it more but the higher parts sound too screamo for my liking. Musically they are pretty sweet though. They remind me of another band but I just can't seem to put my finger on what the sound specifically is. Anywho thanks for contributing and I hope to see you around here more ;)

[Paper]

As long as we're on the topic of Asian metal, try looking up "Bloodshedd". They're one of the most brutal death/black metal bands here in the PH.

[thornofcarrion]

Have you ppl heard "burgerkill"
they are from my country


Go Indonesian Metal !!

Yes I think I have heard few bands from Indonesia. IIRC, one was Kekal, which I like.

Can you name few of them and whats your favorite Indonesian metal band?

[Arrogance]

I personally don't know too much Asian metal. The most I've heard was at Rockstar Taste of Chaos in 2008 when they brought over a few unknown Asian bands to the states. They would play in between the main bands while they set up the main stage. At the time it wasn't anything too special that caught my ear. Other than that the only other Asian Metal Songs I know are from anime :XD. One is from one of the earlier bleach openings and the other is from the Death Note opening.

Bleach Opening - HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR- Ichirin No Hana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzRLSR19zlA)
Death Note - Maximum the Hormone - What's Up People (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8mF-MCzvvA&feature=related&fmt=18)

[CBlitz]

So I was listening to Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria...I don't know if that counts as metal but its so good >__>

are there any other good songs by them?

[Arrogance]

So I was listening to Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria...I don't know if that counts as metal but its so good >__>

are there any other good songs by them?
I saw them live. They were the opening band for Heaven and Hell (RIP Ronnie James Dio :scry) when I saw them last year. That song is a very good one and I like it a lot. BUT as a whole I do not like that band. Live they started off sounding good and then really got out of wack and sounded like crap. I tried listening to their other songs and didn't like them at all. They were no where at the level of Welcome Home. So that plus how they sucked live leads me to not like them at all, lol. Sorry to burst your bubble :darn. But if you are persistent then you can check out their myspace. :)

[BBB Banana]

For asian metal I only know X-japan. But some of my friends listen to a lot of asian metal (mostly korean and japanese)

[DanielKnoT]

God... James is so amazing playing this song in guitar, what a classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z57hyZmbE8A)!!.. He´s so cool!!.. :)

[BBB Banana]

Well I didn't saw anyone mentioning this in this thread wich is weird but here are the news (they are like one week old)

Ronnie James Dio got his own holiday in LA now.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/online_downloads/ronnie_james_dio_day_in_la_video_of_official_announcement_available.html

[Arrogance]

Well I didn't saw anyone mentioning this in this thread wich is weird but here are the news (they are like one week old)

Ronnie James Dio got his own holiday in LA now.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/online_downloads/ronnie_james_dio_day_in_la_video_of_official_announcement_available.html
Wow, no I had no idea that they did that. Thats pretty sweet. Its just for Los Angeles though and I'm a New Yorker so I won't be able to celebrate it :darn. O well, but at least the man is being acknowledged :).
[hr]
Its been a whiling since posting here so I wanted to drop bye to mention that Disturbed's new single is out Another Way To Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfJf1lSzdcg). Turns out that it is a song about environmentalism. I was really worried about this song at first because it makes Disturbed sound like they are getting on board with Liberals and Mainstream media which is usually a bad sign. However, that being said the song is still pretty heavy and dark at times so even if the song is about environmentalism they add an apocalyptic theme to it and its a nice and redeeming quality to it. Hope you guys enjoy it :)

[BBB Banana]

It's good but not awesome. Well I guess is suited to be a single it can apeall people who outside the genre of metal. Singles usually are not the best song in an album so I expect better songs in the album.

[cua_raitei]

Hey! Welcome to mangehelpers and thanks for posting in this thread :). Indonesian Metal :s lol I haven't heard much of that. I just checked out burgerkill on myspace. Not bad, I'm not liking the vocals too much though. A little rough to my liking but its a possibility that its just how its recorded. When the vocalist does deeper growls is where I find I'm liking it more but the higher parts sound too screamo for my liking. Musically they are pretty sweet though. They remind me of another band but I just can't seem to put my finger on what the sound specifically is. Anywho thanks for contributing and I hope to see you around here more ;)

Thanks for the welcome,:D

Okay,so, here we go,
there are so many metal freaks in indonesia, especially in my city Bandung, which is one of the center of metal communty in indonesia beside jakarta, and yogyakarta

and here's the list of some famous metal band from indonesia which i know:
1. Burgerkill
2. Noxa
3. Jasad
4. Death Vomit
5. Kekal
6. Seringai
7. Deadsquad
8. Purgatory
9. Beside
and there are many more:tem

Kekal, i think isn't very famous in indonesia bcause they're staying in canada, if i not wrong

as for asian metal, from japan i know dir en grey, from philippines slapshock

[DanielKnoT]

Does anyone check the new single of KoRn???

http://modlife.com/korn

What you guys think?

[Arrogance]

Thanks man, I didn't even know that they had one out :darn. Shame on me for not being up to date with them, lol.

I honestly don't know if I like it or not. It starts off a little slower and then gets better as it goes on. I liked how it finished up the best. The music video is another story though, that one is odd, lol. I think the song has potential and it could grow on me after listening to it a few times but as of now I'm not that into it.

[DanielKnoT]

Yeah, there are tons of videos in youtube with the preview of the album Remember who you are

To be honest.. The album is "Ok".. Not great or Amazing, just Ok..

[Arrogance]

For a change of pace I'm posting about some Rap Metal :p. Thats right, the 90's are back with the return of Limp Bizkit! They've got a new album, Golden Cobra coming out sometime this fall and I'm psyched for it!. On top of that they released a single to get our lips wet called Why Try (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o93201IoFTk). Its a really great song and Fred Durst sounds better than ever. I found the lyrics to be pretty catchy and the sound is phenomenal. Rap Metal may not be some people's taste but all I know is that I've listened to the song 20 times already and I'm still headbanging :XD. Check the link out and let me know if you guys like the song :thumbs...........or if you absolutely hate it :scry.

[thornofcarrion]

Though I don't like it but I have had an album of Limp Bizkit. I like one of their song, Rearranged.

[Arrogance]

Though I don't like it but I have had an album of Limp Bizkit. I like one of their song, Rearranged.
I like quite a bit of their stuff, but most of that is the Rap Metal, Heavy in your face stuff. Not the slow more rap orientated songs. The new song Why Try though is just the style of Limp Bizkit that I like and thats why I'm very happy about it.

O and Rearranged is a good song :p.

[no_regretsYSL]

For asian metal I only know X-japan. But some of my friends listen to a lot of asian metal (mostly korean and japanese)

I'm not sure if I would dub it "asian metal" but a friend of mine lead me to this band called Dir En Grey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXu9FNEjChU), they are metal-esque so I thought I would introduce my post with something on-topic. As of late, my two favorite bands are Between the buried and Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYJHel-mgM) and Mastodon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pm16ythlec). Although for those of you wanting a melodic technical jazzy brutal fest (yes all of those in one), please do me the honor of leading you to some bands that sound nothing like the previously mentioned. I bring you Enfold Darkness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2IGkb8qOm8), Sons of Aurelius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfS4I2-Srok) and Veil of Maya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag9tsH3xJZ0&feature=related). I picked out my favorites from each band, please if you gave this thread the time of day these bands should deserve no less.

[Arrogance]

Hey, no_regrets. Thanks a lot for posting here. Thats quite a few bands. Other than Mastodon I don't know any of them so I'll go through them all then post letting you know what I think asap ;)

As for my own music right now I am in love with the new Heaven Shall Burn album Invictus (Iconoclast III) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invictus_%28Iconoclast_III%29). Its a freakin ridiculously heavy ban and in my opinion the best and most epic, spine shivering Scream/Growl ever! There is one song called Combat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ugbKuBoUBg&feature=related&fmt=18) What makes this song sick is that it actually combines techno elements with it during the song and they actually replace the drums with a hard bass beat at parts while still maintaining the metal. The other song on the album, the one that I feel holds the most emotion and heart is Given In Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HgquPGm2gk&fmt=18). What makes this song special is that they have a guest female single that combos up AMAZINGLY with the Screams and Growls and it really get a lot of spine shivers from it. Its such an amazing song and a wonderful mash up of vocals. The soft female voice along with the epicness of the Screams really moves me. I love this style so much that I looked up the female singer and I found out she is in her own band called Deadlock which I'm now getting into just because I love her vocals and that style of music. Check out the Deadlock myspace for yourselves (http://www.myspace.com/deadlock) ;).

So thats where I am at right now. Hope you guys like the Heaven Shall Burn songs and let me know what you think ;). To me they are both really unique and powerful songs and I hope to get a few of you guys into the band :thumbs. I'm hoping for some good feedback!

[After_Image]

I'm really into Iron Maiden at the moment so I have them playing in my on-the-go playlist. With songs like; Hallowed Be Thy Name, The Trooper,Rime of the Ancient Mariner , Aces High, and 2 Minutes to Midnight (:headbang).

sorry for not visiting in a while. :sweat

[Arrogance]

Haha, no problem! I welcome you back with open arms! As for Maiden I'm actually going to see them this monday at Madison Square Garden :p. Its gonna be epic! I love Fear of the Dark. I've been trying to get a full discography from them though in High Quality but have been failing miserably. I just wanted to have everything of theirs this way I'd be ready for the concert but it looks like thats not going to happen. Also Dream Theater is going to be opening for them. I don't love them but at least expect a good performance from them. Anywho I'll be sure to rub it in your face after I go Bot :thumbs. Maybe I'll even have a video or two from it on my youtube page.

So what did you think of those other songs I posted by Heaven Shall Burn on the other page? Are they down your alley or are they too epic for you :p.

[After_Image]

I'm listening to them as we speak. :hurr I'll tell you if they are too epic for me or not. :eyeroll
[hr]
Wow, what a great band! And the song "Combat"! :headbang I looked up the lyrics and it is EPIC!!!

especially this verse:

"A life without a future, you will forget your wishes
And nothing to embrace, but the rifle in your hands"

"Given In Death" Is an example of how two totally different voices can mesh well together.
The Female's voice is really beautiful. Looking up her band now!!!

[BBB Banana]

I like the Maidens a lot but it took me some time to get into their music but now I can't get enough of them.

@After Image- Let's pray for Spain to win the World Cup tomorow xD

[Arrogance]

@A_I - The female singer's name is Sabine Weniger and the band she does full time for is Deadlock. I posted the myspace so anyone could listen and get a feel for their style. They pretty much do the that song Given in Death does but all the time. They are a pretty good Melodic Death Metal band as well. They compliment well with the Heaven Shall Burn craze I've been on :XD. Anywho I liked Deadlock so much I got their discography and I'm checking out their latest two albums right now getting a better feel for the band :thumbs.

*Note to self: Still need to check out and comment on No_regret's songs he posted :darn*

[Bugzee]

Hi.

I'm not really a huge metal fan. I personally prefer alernative rock more tbh but I came across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umNkAfTwDR4&feature=related) awesome tune and I had to post it in this thread.

Other tunes I find interesting:

- Tyr - Tróndur í Gøtu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXjF9po2hYk&feature=related)
- Tyr - Into The Storm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLAq5_L_fu0&feature=related)
- Chalice - Memorial Embers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJ2t6xLspo&feature=related)
- Haggard - Heavenly Damnation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJh6AQ3q-s)
- Summoning - Long Lost To Where No Pathway Goes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBfkDH3F1GA)
- Haggard - Eppur Si Muove (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_HGCDJshto) (Haggard are awesome!)

As you can see, I'm more of a Gothic/Symphonic-Metal fan. xD I really love the orchestration, harmonisations and also some of the vocal capabilities that some of these "singers" are able to achieve and perform so well. EPICA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRXuuvKuJ-w) are quite epic actually (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbv65llQ0e0&feature=related). Are any of you guys, a fan of Drum & Bass by any chance? Nightwish still ownz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1yQ303OeI) imho. :)

[Arrogance]

Thanks for posting Jin! The first few songs you posted seem more like Folk (maybe Viking?) Metal. To me they reminded me of toned down versions of Eluveitie. This song is called "Inis Mona" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o). This band is more like a Melodic Death/ Folk Metal band. Its a little heavier than the ones you posted but it takes the same basic theme and kicks it up a notch, let me know if you like it ;). It might be a little heavy to your liking but I'm trying to work with what your into and hoping that I can get you listening to some heavier stuff :p.

I'm not as big with the Gothic metal as I am with Melodic Death Metal but I do like Symphonic Metal. I enjoy Nightwish as well although I am not as into Epica.
[hr]

I'm not sure if I would dub it "asian metal" but a friend of mine lead me to this band called Dir En Grey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXu9FNEjChU), they are metal-esque so I thought I would introduce my post with something on-topic. As of late, my two favorite bands are Between the buried and Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYJHel-mgM) and Mastodon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pm16ythlec). Although for those of you wanting a melodic technical jazzy brutal fest (yes all of those in one), please do me the honor of leading you to some bands that sound nothing like the previously mentioned. I bring you Enfold Darkness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2IGkb8qOm8), Sons of Aurelius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfS4I2-Srok) and Veil of Maya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag9tsH3xJZ0&feature=related). I picked out my favorites from each band, please if you gave this thread the time of day these bands should deserve no less.

Finally got to checking out all the music you posted no_regrets :p. Between the Buried and Me is pretty unique. I like the baroque feel I get when listening to the guitar in that song, I feel like I'm listening to classical music when I'm obviously not, lol. I like em and I'll keep them on my list for bands to look into more.

As for the other bands I like them musically, but the Screams and Growls are too rough and sporadic for my liking. I'm not really into the random and more chaotic and REALLY rough vocals. I'm really picky when it comes to my screams and some of the ones you posted are bordering on Hardcore sounding which I am not a fan of. That being said out of all those Veil of Maya was the one I was vocally able to bear the most and I could listen to it over again. If the vocals grow on me maybe I could get into those. Again thanks a lot for posting and I'm hoping to seeing you around here more often :thumbs.

[thornofcarrion]

My favorite Summoning songs are these two:

The Loud Music Of The Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcnVYUAlJg)

Like some Snow White Marble Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5j-FV4sg8&feature=related)

[no_regretsYSL]

Finally got to checking out all the music you posted no_regrets :p. Between the Buried and Me is pretty unique. I like the baroque feel I get when listening to the guitar in that song, I feel like I'm listening to classical music when I'm obviously not, lol. I like em and I'll keep them on my list for bands to look into more.

As for the other bands I like them musically, but the Screams and Growls are too rough and sporadic for my liking. I'm not really into the random and more chaotic and REALLY rough vocals. I'm really picky when it comes to my screams and some of the ones you posted are bordering on Hardcore sounding which I am not a fan of. That being said out of all those Veil of Maya was the one I was vocally able to bear the most and I could listen to it over again. If the vocals grow on me maybe I could get into those. Again thanks a lot for posting and I'm hoping to seeing you around here more often :thumbs.

Thanks for checking out my stash Arrogance. I like how you phrased your post, you weren't rejecting me just letting me know your personal preference, which is a form of disagreement I highly admire. With that said, I was just listening to that Heaven Shall Burn band. I was actually half way through Combat when I saw you had singled it out ha. I understand what you meant about the vocals so as a Metal Fan I appreciate your "pickyness" a.k.a. standards. But yea they were pretty good they kept a nice rhythm throughout the whole song, and I loved the techno incorporation as I was a Techno fan long before I really got into music in general. As a whole they kind of reminded me of a french-metal band called Gojira (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqLh2-MUhNk&feature=related), they have pretty nice vocals as well and the singing when it comes definitely fits. I'll be back here for sure though, I love a good shout-out. :beer

[Arrogance]

Thanks for checking out my stash Arrogance. I like how you phrased your post, you weren't rejecting me just letting me know your personal preference, which is a form of disagreement I highly admire. With that said, I was just listening to that Heaven Shall Burn band. I was actually half way through Combat when I saw you had singled it out ha. I understand what you meant about the vocals so as a Metal Fan I appreciate your "pickyness" a.k.a. standards. But yea they were pretty good they kept a nice rhythm throughout the whole song, and I loved the techno incorporation as I was a Techno fan long before I really got into music in general. As a whole they kind of reminded me of a french-metal band called Gojira (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqLh2-MUhNk&feature=related), they have pretty nice vocals as well and the singing when it comes definitely fits. I'll be back here for sure though, I love a good shout-out. :beer
No problem. I understand that people have different tastes especially when it comes to metal. Metal it just too vast of a genre that is hast hundred's of sub-genres and many bands even fall into more than one of those sub genre's. I myself posted the new Limp Bizkit single the other day which is Rap Metal and I know that not every person here likes that either. Thorn even flat out said he didn't like it, lol. As for your techno comment, the reason why I like it is because I actually still listen to techno as well. I'm way more into metal but I love a good hard bass beat from time to time as well. In general I just love fast passed and epic music and I find both those traits in Metal and Techno. Thats why I personally get excited over mash ups of the two and Industrial Metal which incorporates many electronic beats into the songs as well (Static-X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_B8-ZnW2w4) is AMAZING when it comes to that :thumbs).

Now Gojira is more to my liking. I'm going through a bunch of their songs on youtube and I'm liking it. I think they could grow on me with time. Just need to keep listening to them and try and get a feel for it. Thanks for the heads up with them ;).

[BBB Banana]

If you guys like Techno you should listen to some John5 stuff sometimes his guitar playing reminds me a lot of tecnho stuff.

One of my friends doesn't like metal but he loves John5.

[Arrogance]

I have 3 words for you all...............
IRON F*CKING MAIDEN!!!!!
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O man what an amazing concert. I ended up seeing them live last night with Dream Theater opening for them at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Sold out show and I was close to nose bleed seats but I still had a great view and the show was fantastic from anywhere in that arena.

First things first, Dream Theater was actually fantastic! I've heard them before and I actually have a few albums by them but I got sick of them after a while, but after hearing them live I really got some new found respect for them and I plan on trying to get back into them and more than before.

NOW ON TO THE MAIN EVENT! MAIDEN FREAKIN RULED!!!! Most extravagant stage I've seen to date. It was basically a giant playground. Bruce was running around the whole thing, jumping in the air, throwing his hands up, etc the whole time while maintaining great vocals. They played all the good stuff: Brave New World, Iron Maiden, Fear of the Dark, The Number of the Beast, and even their new single El Dorado was quite enjoyable. I actually liked it better live.

To sum it all up I had a great f*cking night! And to top it off I have a treat for everyone!.......VIDEOS!!! Thats right I recorded a few songs from this fantastic sold out show! My camera was bugging out a bit for the first time ever because of the lighting and it was overheating too I believe but I still managed to get a few good videos. I hope you guys enjoy and let me know what you think! Stay Metal! :shakefist

Here is my video of Blood Brothers which the band actually ended up dedicating to Ronnie James Dio, RIP. The video starts off with Bruce's dedication and his speech in which he credits Dio for the Devil Horns! \m/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAsM4Zfrts)

Here's my video of everyone's favorite Brave New World!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCW0l89q3Q)

Also If you liked my Maiden videos and are interested then you can check out my Youtube Channel for other videos I have recorded from previous concerts. Bands include Heaven and Hell, Five Finger Death Punch, Disturbed, and more. Enjoy! (http://www.youtube.com/user/bmhmetalhead)

PS: MAKE SURE TO WATCH MY VIDEOS IN HIGH DEFINITION!!!! :yelling

[Xsoteria]

Well, I'm a huge metal fan. *insert ascii*

My tastes are all over the place really. My all time favorites are hardly that well known, since melodic death isn't as popular as I once thought it was. Insomnium, Kalmah, Eternal Tears of Sorrow, Amon Amarth and old Nightwish (weird company NW has there huh o_0). If you haven't listened to them already, doubt you would like them, but once you get into the whole vocal thing and learn to appreciate the epic, epic music, you're quickly on your way to a mind trip where you'd hang out with the old Vikings.

But, something I think people would appreciate much more, seeing as this is MH after all, maybe checking out Blood Stain Child (name doesn't really convey the right picture don't worry). It's a mix of techno and metal, and the band is Japanese. The lyrics are mostly English though. I recommend checking out the song Freedom, to see if you'd like the band. The last album was much more technoish, that can be good or bad, depending on the person.

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oi-8xl7uZs&feature=related) the link to the Freedom song.

Anyways, nice to see that there are plenty of metalheads here \m/_{0_o}

[Hystzen]

my most listened song at moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpLPQD0cmo
Dir En Grey- j metal/death metal/ prog/

im still buzzing off seening Rage agaisnt Machine, AC/DC, Aerosmith in 3 days amazing.

anyone listen to rolo tomassi or iwrestleabearonce some women screamos

[Drmke]

gundam...lucky :wtf

AC/DC are great live. Saw them last year. Always wanted to see Rage. Aerosmith is meh, not good not bad imo. I like some songs quite a bit but I don't know if I do a whole set by them....

[BBB Banana]

I would love to see AC/DC and aerosmith. A few years ago AC/DC came to a festival here but I was too young to go alone since my dad wasn't avaiable to take me :(

[Hystzen]

AC/DC well worth it ... in the crowd there was this couple who had a 5 year old wearing a AC/DC shirt he was going mental to it was cool to watch :tem.

Rage was just insane they got cut off at start of second song coz people were getting crushed at the front i ended up getting this huge guy stomping on my ankle during Gorrila Radio.

Aerosmith was really really good was shocked they did a good set n didnt sing dude looks like a lady thankfully :darn.

@ Xsoteria... iam not hooked to Blood Stain Child amazing :o

[BBB Banana]

Well there is no rock thread so I'll ask here.

Has anyone been to a Guns n' Roses concert in these last few years? How was it?
Does axl still has his voice?

Guns n' roses is my favorite band but you see axl kind of looks like he lost his voice and he's old from the videos I've seen. So should I spend my money on it?

I went to see slash last month and it was amazing I wonder if Axl and the guys can top that.

Oh there's also Sebastian Bach with Guns n' roses I heard a few songs from him he's pretty good.

[Drmke]

When I saw AD/DC, sooooooooooo many parents brought their kids and bought them these flashing devil horns hats and it looked awesome on the kids :tem lol

@BB, I haven't heard anything about GNR's recent performances. But imo, Axel has screwed that band over. Chinese Democracy was less than good. There was only one song I thought was good and I've forgotten it....:oh Get Back or something.

[Arrogance]

Well there is no rock thread so I'll ask here.

Has anyone been to a Guns n' Roses concert in these last few years? How was it?
Does axl still has his voice?

Guns n' roses is my favorite band but you see axl kind of looks like he lost his voice and he's old from the videos I've seen. So should I spend my money on it?

I went to see slash last month and it was amazing I wonder if Axl and the guys can top that.

Oh there's also Sebastian Bach with Guns n' roses I heard a few songs from him he's pretty good.
GNR is metal, lol. Just that some of their stuff borderlines hard rock as well. There are many other bands that bounce back and forth from hard rock to alternative metal these days as well so its pretty common to have borderline metal bands.

I saw GNR (the new one) back in 2006 I believe at Madison Square Garden. Opening bands were Sebastian Bach and Papa Roach. Axl's vocals were still pretty good although I had an angle seat and I was able to see back stage. A few times he would run back stage and take a wiff out of an oxygen tank because he seems to have lung problems from his "hardcore" early days. Although he was running out of breathe the built in spots for him to run back stage into the show lineup so it didn't ruin anything. Plus one song Sebastian even came back out and sang with him cause they're like best buds. Overall it was a very good show and the talent for his new band was pretty good.

Recently I heard from Eddy Trunk that he did an underground show in a department store in Manhattan. It was one of those things that was rumor based and a surprised so people just showed up and after about 500 people they closed the doors and they had a show in the store. From what I head Trunk said that it was a pretty solid show. Now that was about 3 months ago so what he's doing now I have no idea so take my information or leave it :p. haha.

[thornofcarrion]

GNR was pretty much a hard rock metal band for me. Very few of their songs could be categorized as heavy metal. The metal of 80-90s is as good as dead. The early work of Metallica, Megadeth, Testament, Metal Church, Skid Row and so many others was what got me into metal. Today's sound is more fusion of different genres. Many of the upcoming bands try to experiment with the sound, in effort to create something new. I say, I am not a big fan of latest heavy metal. I do not listen to it anymore. Only Black and Doom metal interests me.

[BBB Banana]

Well I'll give it a try I'm sure I'm still going to have a good time even if it isn't as good as expected. But I sure hope to see a good show.

Man when I see videos from the use you illusion tours I wish I was born earlier so I could see those shows. Axl was so awesome at that time. And also that Ritz concert in their early days :(

[Hystzen]

I saw Slash live his solo project where he did paradise city n Sweet Child of mine he has myles kenndey from Alter Bridge singing i prefer it to GNR....

and Slash has the BEST man boobs....they are amazing

[BBB Banana]

Yeah I only got to know Myles and Alter Brigde after I heard his songs on slash's CD I must say he's one of the best singers I've heard and he's great live. That is problably the closest thing to GN'R in their prime you can find nowadays. Myles can sing anything from GN'R to velvet revolver. It's a shame they didn't played tha song slash did with Lemmy from motorhead.


Oh man I sure remember those sweaty bobs during the concert :P joking joking

[Hystzen]

at Download festival Lemmy came on stage on did that song :p

i never knew myles kennedy either but on of m8s was huge Alter Bridge fan and went nuts during starlight.

I never liked Velvet Revolver but i liked Slashes version with him.

[BBB Banana]

Man you're damn lucky. I also saw Lemmy and Motorhead this year. But seeing Lemmy and Slash is bound to be epic.

[Arrogance]

SOOOOOO I just picked up Avenged Sevenfold's new album Nightmare and I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it a bit more than their self titled thats for sure. If anything its a very emotional album (I don't know how much of it Rev's death added to the emotion because all the songs were written before he died but I don't know how many were already recorded. Either way this album displays a very dark and emotional side and for some reason I'm really enjoying it. Plus Shadows Growls again! Its one song but I'll take it :D. Its the track God Hates Us. The growl is different from his previous one but its still really good and refreshing to hear him do it well once again (even if it only really is just once :p). If your an A7X I recommend that you pick up the album. If your an older fan but didn't like that last album as much, this one takes a step back to City of Evil. As a whole its not as heavy but I think those that are on the line after the last album "should" like this one a bit better.

[BBB Banana]

Oh yeah had a listen at the store and I definetly need to get that album ^-^

At first I didn't liked avegend sevenfold because M. Shadows reminded of Cristiano Ronaldo (the soccer player) and that gave me the creeps. But when I decided to put his looks aside I started enjoying their music very much xD

[Hystzen]

i prefered last A7X album ..m.shadows voice irritated me on songs like Bat Country..need give it a listen tho it might not irriate me now

too busy going old skool with Deftones and ADTR There name was treason album..pop metalcore for the win

[Bugzee]

Thanks for posting Jin! The first few songs you posted seem more like Folk (maybe Viking?) Metal. To me they reminded me of toned down versions of Eluveitie. This song is called "Inis Mona" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o). This band is more like a Melodic Death/ Folk Metal band. Its a little heavier than the ones you posted but it takes the same basic theme and kicks it up a notch, let me know if you like it ;). It might be a little heavy to your liking but I'm trying to work with what your into and hoping that I can get you listening to some heavier stuff :p.

I'm not as big with the Gothic metal as I am with Melodic Death Metal but I do like Symphonic Metal. I enjoy Nightwish as well although I am not as into Epica.


I don't know much about the variety of sub-genres of Metal but the bands and songs I linked in my previous post all incoporate some kind of symphonic orchestration, sounds and structure into their tracks. Some may sway more into folk or viking, so yeah. I'm really not a fan of that heavy metal stuff lol but you can always try and link me to some tunes; I'm open to anything and I'll give it a listen. :amuse That Inis Mona track was cool, I didn't really like the vocals much though. :p

Nightwish are awesome. I'll try and post more in this thread when I come across some cool tunes or whatnot. Have fun everyone! :)

[BBB Banana]

If you kind of like viking-ish vocals try listening to this you might like it Bugs ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKb-jlUiMs

there used to be a video for this song but the vevo acount disapeared :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJRf0pUfOo

maybe you'll like a calmer song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsndG__EIVU

[Bugzee]

Great links BBB! :nuts

Me likes the first one more than the second link. But, the third one takes the crown. :nod Awesome song! Love it. I thought you were gonna trick me by saying "maybe you'll like a calmer song" and link me to something completely hardcore. :p

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely check out more music from BLS. :)

[BBB Banana]

Great that you enjoyed it ^-^

Yeah the third song is very special. It is in honor of one of the greatest metal guitarrists Dimebag who was shoot on stage :(

[thornofcarrion]

Dimebag Darrel or Diamond Darrell they use to call him. Pantera first few albums were good. If I have to select, I'd say these were my favorite 2 songs by Pantera"

Cemetery Gates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyczwqRD2NI&feature=related)

Planet Caravan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gym2UXYRz98)

[Hystzen]

this thread been quiet so il post a list of bands i seen live


A Day To Remember x2
Fightstar x2
Blackout x2
AC/DC
Aerosmith
Muse
Rage Against Machine
Conquer The Masses
August Burns Red
Prodigy
Dir En Grey
Flyleaf
HIM
Placebo
The Horrors
Bullet For My Valentine
Lamb Of God
Billy Idol
Slash with Myles Kennedy
Killswitch Engage x2
36 Crazyfists
Volbeat
Five Finger Death Punch
Motley Crue
Parkway Drive
You Me At Six
Chris Cornell
Dragonforce
Journey
ZZ Top
Suicide Silence
Papa Roach
Lostprophets
Linkin Park
Hollywood Undead
LimpBizkit
Slipknot
Def Leppard
Buckcherry
Korn

[BBB Banana]

Dragonforce, Aerosmith and ZZ Top are some of the ones you said that I would like to see. Others I have either seen them or don't know that much.

You must see Slash and Myles Kennedy Live if you like them. They make an amazing Duo.

[Hystzen]

they on the list they are awesome live

ZZ top made me grin so much

[Arrogance]

I've gotta say that Dragonforce was pretty awful live. I saw them at the first Rockstar Mayhem festival 2 years ago. I definitely wouldn't pay to see them in particular again. They aren't as "perfect" live and they try doing too much and it just doesn't happen. The drumming isn't as fast and the guitars got sloppy. Also the vocals were INCREDIBLY off and there were times I couldn't even understand the words that were being said. Plus because all dragonforce songs sounds pretty similar I couldn't tell what the lineup was because all the songs were pretty much butchered. Overall a pretty bad experience :darn.

[Paper]

You guys are pretty lucky with the fact that bands want to go to your countries/live in your countries. The two best I've had so far here in the Philippines was the 2004 Billy Sheehan bass clinic and the 2009 Arch Enemy concert...the others were "meh"...

I've heard the same things about Dragon Force from friends. I was supposed to go and see them (back when I lived in the UK), but I had to cancel because I couldn't get off work... Can't say I regret not being able to see them though.

[Hystzen]

yea i didnt like dragonforce ...me n m8s all thort it was the same song for 40minutes setlist...not really a fan off theres anyway but when you got free time at a festival might as well watch them

[Arrogance]

yea i didnt like dragonforce ...me n m8s all thort it was the same song for 40minutes setlist...not really a fan off theres anyway but when you got free time at a festival might as well watch them
Yea exactly! I was at a festival so it wasn't even like I specifically payed to see them. Going into the concert though I didn't really dislike DragonForce, there are times I actually enjoy them but I really need to be in the mood for them for some reason and that mood doesn't come often. So me actually enjoying them at the time decided to go see them only to be heavily disappointed. I ended up missing Machine Head because I went to see DragonForce instead :sweat. Well I guess now I can at least say I saw DragonForce and then I ended up seeing Machine Head later that year when I saw Metallica because they opened for them.

[BBB Banana]

I saw metallica two months ago and it was Castor's (Hetfield's son) birthday.
And one month ago I went to see Slash and it was also his son's birthday lol.

So basically we sing happy birthday in every concert I attend latelly

[Arrogance]

I saw metallica two months ago and it was Castor's (Hetfield's son) birthday.
And one month ago I went to see Slash and it was also his son's birthday lol.

So basically we sing happy birthday in every concert I attend latelly
Thats funny. Were they all like epic, metal versions of the happy birthday song because if they were then that would make any concert for me! (except a DragonForce one :p)

[BBB Banana]

Well Metallica didn't played along but Slash and his band made their own version but wasn't really heavy.

[Arrogance]

Just got the new Iron Maiden album: The Final Frontier and I've got to say its a keeper. I just listened through it once now. Haven't learned all the songs yet but I've liked the sound of it. There is an intro track as well and thats pretty sweet, its kinda mesmerizing and then it leads into their song The Final Frontier. Has anyone else gotten it or heard it yet???

[BBB Banana]

I had a quick listen at the store but you can only listen to a few seconds so I can't make a judgegment yet. I'll buy it next week.

[Paper]

I've yet to even listen to the new material (seeing as the only decent record store here closed down years ago, and the nearest one now is about an hour's drive away), I'll probably look for tracks on youtube. If I like it I'll go out and buy it.

From a musician's POV, Maiden's been churning out SSDD albums. They're not doing anything new anymore. Not that it's bad, it just takes a bit of the excitement off.

[Hystzen]

im not to sure how popular they are in other countries..but have you guys heard of Bullet For My Valentine...they did a new album this year called fever and it amazing ..il put a link up to the opening song from the album the drum is guitars are amazing..and they amazing live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0lB1hO2hyw&feature=search

[BBB Banana]

I have heard of bullet for my valentine many times but never really heard them because I don't really like their name lol reminds an emo band xD

So I listened to some of their songs. I like the instrumental part but I think the Vocals are kinda generic I think the guy could have a more agressive voice.

Well but that's just me because I like rough voices instead of clean ones.

[Xsoteria]

I used to listen to Bullet for my Valentine and I must say the band is pretty good. I haven't listened to the new stuff, but they had awesome rhythm and guitars. Vocals aren't bad accept for being whiny at rare occasions, but overall, definitely worth checking out.

People often connected them with emo culture because of some songs that were named a bit emoishly, but once I actually went and listened to it, it's good music.

The genre would be metalcore, IIRC, if that means anything to anyone.

[Hystzen]

I have heard of bullet for my valentine many times but never really heard them because I don't really like their name lol reminds an emo band xD

So I listened to some of their songs. I like the instrumental part but I think the Vocals are kinda generic I think the guy could have a more agressive voice.

Well but that's just me because I like rough voices instead of clean ones.

listen to a song called Ashes of the Innocent..it brutal...

yea Xsoteria i agree bout the name and what people get called emo coz of it...oh n i love Blood Stain Child gave them a listen when you mentioned it on this thread..they damn awesome..love Hype-N.

[Arrogance]

I'm a Bullet For My Valentine fan myself but I haven't really listened to the new album. I have it but it just hasn't really caught my attention. I originally saw them Live opening for A7X during Taste of Chaos a few years back but I didn't know who they were then. After seeing them live I got into them.

[Hystzen]

i prob gona get abuse or kidnapped then raped for saying this but....

i find metallica overrated...i dont understand the big fuss over them...

[DanielKnoT]

i prob gona get abuse or kidnapped then raped for saying this but....

i find metallica overrated...i dont understand the big fuss over them...

:blink

And why is that? I really wanna heard your explanation... ;)

[Arrogance]

:blink

And why is that? I really wanna heard your explanation... ;)
Same. The only thing I'd ever call overrated by Metallica is Enter Sandman. The song was good once but now its just played out because it was overused on the radio and sporting events :darn. Everything else is just gold! :yelling

[DanielKnoT]

Same. The only thing I'd ever call overrated by Metallica is Enter Sandman. The song was good once but now its just played out because it was overused on the radio and sporting events :darn. Everything else is just gold! :yelling

Yeah, agree...

But you know, when you see a band like Metallica playing this song

Disposable Heroes - 1985
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYcH466Wiw

And then, almost 25 years later playing the same song like this!!

Disposable Heroes - 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mcthZSZDw4

There is not doubt in my mind, Metallica is the best Fucking Rock Band in the World :D

I cant remenber a band that could play like that after almost 30 years.. Maybe only AC/DC and Iron Maiden are in that level..

I cant imagine any of this nu-metal bands doing the same thing... :eyeroll

[Arrogance]

Yeah, agree...

But you know, when you see a band like Metallica playing this song

Disposable Heroes - 1985
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYcH466Wiw

And then, almost 25 years later playing the same song like this!!

Disposable Heroes - 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mcthZSZDw4

There is not doubt in my mind, Metallica is the best Fucking Rock Band in the World :D

I cant remenber a band that could play like that after almost 30 years.. Maybe only AC/DC and Iron Maiden are in that level..

I cant imagine any of this nu-metal bands doing the same thing... :eyeroll
Yea I agree with you. When I saw Metallica myself all I could say was holy crap these guys still have it this many years later.

My only other thing to add to your list would be Heaven And Hell (Black Sabbath) because Dio still had it last year when I saw him. Heaven And Hell sounded even better now that they were all older. They and Dio are gonna be missed, they honestly still had at least ten years worth of talent left in them all but then Dio passed :scry.

[Hystzen]

it i just never got into them..

i try to listen to them but find them bit repetative n dull...music or vocals dont have the kick i expect..plus sometimes find them bit arrogante the way the talk about other bands..

a example is a vid someone put on youtube of them looking at setlist in leeds n looking what band is on stage they see it Muse and they just go well they got alot of shit songs...then next part of vid they talking to Matt B from muse all friendly.

i admit i have the S&M album it different but just find them dull.

not trying insult people or anything just i dont see why alot of people espically all these young kids thinking metallica are gods n all..i agree they influecne nearly every band there is now ...

[BBB Banana]

I agree that Metallica are a great band specially when you take in acount that they've been on the road almost non stop for decades. Hetfield still has a great voice live.

I don't know all of metallica songs because I don't have all their albums but I liked every song from every album I have and songs my friends showed me.

I don't think Metallica are Arrongant maybe a bit but if you look at it every one of the big 4 of trash Metal are a bit arrogant.

Well maybe a lot if we are talking about Mustaine :p

[thornofcarrion]

i prob gona get abuse or kidnapped then raped for saying this but....

i find metallica overrated...i dont understand the big fuss over them...


it i just never got into them..

i try to listen to them but find them bit repetative n dull...music or vocals dont have the kick i expect..plus sometimes find them bit arrogante the way the talk about other bands..

a example is a vid someone put on youtube of them looking at setlist in leeds n looking what band is on stage they see it Muse and they just go well they got alot of shit songs...then next part of vid they talking to Matt B from muse all friendly.

i admit i have the S&M album it different but just find them dull.

not trying insult people or anything just i dont see why alot of people espically all these young kids thinking metallica are gods n all..i agree they influecne nearly every band there is now ...

I'll agree the recent Metallica is not great at all. But their earlier stuff like:


Kill 'Em All
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
…And Justice for All
Metallica


was great. It was after 1994 they started to experiment and tried to have different sound and all that stuff, which became boring and they lost their originality. The reason you may find them boring and repetitive is mainly because Metal/Rock changed so much after late 1990s and early 2000s. Its not what I grew up listening to, the sound is more alternative, grunge, and industrial then it ever used to be. And one of the reason I listen to Doom and Black Metal, as they are keeping their originality.

[Arrogance]

I actually like their newer stuff as well. I liked Death Magnetic as an album because compared to St. Anger it was actually returning to their routes a little bit more but then also went in a new direction. The point I see with them is that they just don't want to keep putting out the same thing every time so they tried different things for their newer albums. St. Anger definitely wasn't their best album bit I even find songs on their that I actually enjoy. As a whole I love Metallica, I may not listen to them every few seconds nor do I actually want to because there are so many other bands that I love but if a Metallica song comes on the radio (and as long as its not Enter Sandman) then I'm gonna listen to it and love it.

[DanielKnoT]

I have read many negative comments in many forums and on youtube about Metallica, but I never saw that they were Arrogant, Repetitive, and Boring

You wanna know who really is Arrogant? Guns and Roses, for example..
Repetitive? Slayer, Anthrax just to name a few
Boring? Megadeth, Pantera... The same music over and over again for many years..

I have seem them 3 times in this World Tour and they just kick ass..

Changing the subject.. Have you guys read the recent article from Rhythm Magazine "The 20 greatest drummers of the last 25 years".. Who do you think is the #1?? Mike Portnoy? - Fail!!.... Neil Peart? - Fail!!...

Check it out.. http://www.musicradar.com/rhythm/greatest-drummer-of-the-last-25-years-the-results-are-in-270334/20#content

[BBB Banana]

Just a correction the one who's arrogant is Axl Rose not the rest of the band wether is the old or the new one. (well I like him that way he was never suposed to be a nice guy from the begining his songs were honest about his person)

And Megadeth are not boring but I would put Mustain in the arrogant class :p

Wasn't the 1# drumers in that magazine Joey Jordison from Rob Zombie and Slipknot?

[Arrogance]

So later today I'm heading out to a Creed and Skillet concert. Now Creed is mostly hard rock however they have a few songs that border on metal in the sense of their heaviness. Skillet on the other hand bounces from Hard Rock to Alternative Metal very often and I really love them for that style. Both bands also come under Christian Rock/Metal so that definitely is a plus in my book. Looking forward to going and I'm hoping it doesn't rain because its in an outdoor stadium :darn.

For those who don't know the bands here are some links

One of Creed's heaviest and most metalesque songs "Bullets" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwpjSBlTfSk)

One of my favorite Skillet Songs - "Collide". Its very powerful in terms of vocals and I love the high points of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhmXehFixJs)

Again these are hard rock bands that border on alternative metal so some of you really heavy guys might not enjoy them as much but I thought I'd drop them off anyway. Plus I'm too excited for the concert not to talk about these bands :XD.

[BBB Banana]

I enjoy Creed I'm more towards Hard Rock than Metal. But they are brothers and sometimes the bands jump from one side to another.

I listen to metal when I want to hear those heavy rythims and listen to Hard Rock when I want those cool Guitar solos.

[Arrogance]

The concert was amazing! Skillet was probably one of the best opening bands I've ever seen. They had a pretty extensive stage set up for just being an opening band. I think parts of it were even better than Creeds main stage. They had moving platforms, smoke, and lights. What was sweet about the platforms was that the violinist and cheloist would stand on them and play while they would move up and down. Overall it was a pretty sick set up :headbang. Anywho the concert was in an outside stadium/theater that was actually on the water. It was raining and the water level was rising around the theater to the point where the first few sections actually got flooded. Overall it was pretty epic.

As usual I bring back the gift of videos!!! So far I only have two skillet up and I plan on putting a creed up at some point ;).

Awake and Alive - Skillet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoMYoBWOroQ)

Rebirthing - Skillet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qHoUdiTNJE)

[BBB Banana]

Guys can anyone sugest any song with kickass guitar riffs and solo?

[Paper]

It really depends on what you want...

All-Star-Shred-fest: Hear n' Aid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7eqxg92YG0)- We're Stars (collaboration effort lead by Dio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_'n_Aid))
My Guitar wants to Kill Your Mama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmYbHYslZiM)- G3: Satriani, Vai, Johnson (Frank Zappa cover)
Acoustic Tapping: Air Tap! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3p0Qpwwydc) - Erik Mongrain
Shred Fest: X-Ray Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0izFtEUS5Q)- Cacophony (Marty Friedman and Jason Becker)
Curse of the Castle Dragon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZm2MOzpdRU)- Paul gilbert
Neo-Classical shredding- Playing with fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58fZeurnPl8&feature=related)- Yngwie Malmsteen
Viking Kong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dNxshHlp4w)- Racer X
Tapping: Eruption (live circa-198x) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_lwocmL9dQ)- Eddie Van Halen/ Van Halen
Prog shredding: The Glass Prison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h81PggfE8I)- Dream Theater
Spirit of Radio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuOGaoDeIE)- Rush
Bass Shredding: Shy Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KBNn4OfSg)- Talas/ Billy Sheehan
Beat It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUsjURfdQ4g)- Victor Wooten, Marcus Miller, and Stanley Clarke (Michael Jackson cover)
Power metal shredding: Chasing the Dragon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEpcS1r9-m4)- DreamEvil
Death Metal shredding: Nemesis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AcG0glVu4)- Arch Enemy
Follow the Reaper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f9B5Ki36BQ)- Children of Bodom
Country/chicken picking- Farm Fiddlin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fkkUOUONtw)- Zakk Wylde
Blues-rock: Manhattan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUsjURfdQ4g)- Eric Johnson
Classic shredding: Muffin Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFIMWRXWY90)- Frank Zappa
The Boys are Back in Town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FmPhJkdTwU)- Thin Lizzy

So many more...

[BBB Banana]

Well I just want something new that I don't know to play so that will do it. I'll go trough the list now.

[Arrogance]

Lately I've been teetering between Disturbed's new album Asylum and the band Flyleaf.

Asylum overall is a really amazing album, its heavy and its got everything good in it that Disturbed has always brought to the table. Some of my favorite songs would be Asylum, Crucified, Another Way To Die, My Child, and more but I don't want to just list the whole album :p.

Flyleaf on the other hand is a bit more in the rock direction but their female singer does scream on occasion and that is pretty sick. Plus they have some pretty good christian messages in a few of their songs and thats always a plus when it comes to me :)

[BBB Banana]

Latelly I've seen many metalhead that are christian and that spread the christian message in their songs and still the church still has many issues with metal only because metal artists wear black and look a bit different than usual.

[Arrogance]

Latelly I've seen many metalhead that are christian and that spread the christian message in their songs and still the church still has many issues with metal only because metal artists wear black and look a bit different than usual.
It depends on what bands. Many metal bands are not Christian obviously and promote things that don't reflect Christian Catholic ideals. So its just that they are very weary when entering that territory. Metal and as a cultural scene isn't christian so its understandable for them to be a bit at odds but I do agree with you and what your saying. In terms of the music and what it is in itself beside the culture around metal, there are many bands that are acceptable and even produce christian lyrics.

[Hystzen]

guitar solos and no mention of the band i saw live on saturday....

ok

Muse- Hysteria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dm_5qWWDV8&ob=av2e)
Muse- Stockholm Syndrom recorded saturday guy must been next to me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HxEGq2ITo)

also check out Plug In Baby, Newborn (my fav)..Muse are all bout guitar riffs

i seen flyleaf live..it was ment to be Atreyu but the time list changed n didnt tell everyone....wasent really feeling them

[Paper]

It's great to try and get new techniques, but as Billy Sheehan puts it in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CAGinmT9Po&feature=related) video, it's not really about the technique, but the desire to play music that makes a musician better at what he/she does.

[Arrogance]

guitar solos and no mention of the band i saw live on saturday....

ok

Muse- Hysteria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dm_5qWWDV8&ob=av2e)
Muse- Stockholm Syndrom recorded saturday guy must been next to me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HxEGq2ITo)

also check out Plug In Baby, Newborn (my fav)..Muse are all bout guitar riffs

i seen flyleaf live..it was ment to be Atreyu but the time list changed n didnt tell everyone....wasent really feeling them
Wait so did you see muse on Saturday??? I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not? :XD

Yes Muse, although they aren't necessarily heavy, they do have some pretty good guitar solos from time to time. I like them for that and for the uniqueness of many of their songs :).

Yea, Flyleaf is a new interest to me. I've always known about them but I guess once I found out she screamed at times I finally decided to make a move on them and now I actually like them quite a bit. I dunno, I've always liked Female vocalists especially in metal bands and rock bands that are on the heavier side. They always add a nice touch to things. I also love songs with Male and Female vocals because the contrast of the two are usually awesome :).

[BBB Banana]

@ The Paperman Wow that guy is a kcikass player O.o and he told a lot of truths your technique will catch up with you eventually and allow you to reach your creational potential.

[Hystzen]

yea saw them on Saturday...i seen alot of bands i listed them 2 pages ago i think..but they are the best band i seen live ..plus they are my fav band been a fan for 10years now.

i like female singers in metal you heard of Rolo Tomassi if not
I love turbalance - Rolo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7AXUmYrNq4)

she is epic plus she hot in real life still bit strange hearing a girl goin scremo that deep live

[Paper]

@BBB Banana- Yeah man. I used to train heavily every day and it just resulted in me getting lots of blisters/sprained wrists/fingers and all I got was a little improvement. The moment I just let the music and desire to play take over was when I actually started to get better at playing my bass. No point in traveling if you've got no destination in mind.

[Arrogance]

yea saw them on Saturday...i seen alot of bands i listed them 2 pages ago i think..but they are the best band i seen live ..plus they are my fav band been a fan for 10years now.

i like female singers in metal you heard of Rolo Tomassi if not
I love turbalance - Rolo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7AXUmYrNq4)

she is epic plus she hot in real life still bit strange hearing a girl goin scremo that deep live
Yea I love female screamers/growlers but they can get VERY creepy sometimes. I never heard of them before, they are a little too Avant Garde for my taste and a bit too screamo. And what makes her creepy is that she sings and screams in that avant garde way but she looks so innocent :s.

What I mostly like is stuff like Fireflight - Unbreakable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWRJAHaOrYg&feature=channel). Now thats a bit on the lighter side, yet I really like the emotion I get from those vocals. Thats something I find to be one of the bright sides to a female vocalist is that they portray emotion very well into their lyrics. Now that I think about it I don't actually have too many female growlers on my IPOD list....hmmm. I do like female growlers but many of them are iffy as I explained above.

[Hystzen]

there no such thing as too screamo :yelling

get what you mean tho ..i was same at first but then i starting gettting into more more propa metalcore now im used to it n like it. i started off with bands like 36 crazyfists, Ateryu, Machine head and now im into stuff like Of Mice And Men (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8eBoW2ET0)

[BBB Banana]

@Paperman
Well I went tough half of your list tomorrow I'll go trough the rest cuse I'm a bit sleepy now so I won't remember what I hear.

I like a lot of them speacially the first two. they have some of my fave guitarrists in there George Lynch, Malmstem, Vai.

I think I should hear more stuff by the G3 as I am a huge Vai fan. And maybe I could go and see satriani live next month :)

[Paper]

The G3 lineup changes slightly each year, the only real constant is Steve Vai I think... Or was it Satriani...hmhmh. They've had Malmsteen, Roth, Pettrucci, Johnson, etc... in their ranks.

[Arrogance]

there no such thing as too screamo :yelling

get what you mean tho ..i was same at first but then i starting gettting into more more propa metalcore now im used to it n like it. i started off with bands like 36 crazyfists, Ateryu, Machine head and now im into stuff like Of Mice And Men (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8eBoW2ET0)
I like metalcore, but thats not screamo thats why :darn, lol.

I saw 36 Crazyfists live before they were big like they are now :p. I've seen all of those bands you listed live except for for Of Mice and Men. They aren't too bad actually, the vocals are teetering on being screamo but just not there yet. I may actually look into them a bit more just for kicks.

I think I need to make a list of all the bands I've seen, let me go work on it :ninja.

[cua_raitei]

anyone here listen to post-hardcore ? :tem

and what's the difference between post hardcore and screamo 'cause many people say that both are the same and the others say no
:s:s

[BBB Banana]

I used to listen to Post-hardcore but I find it boring now :XD Maybe I listened to much of it back then.
I still listen to it from time to time though.

I always thought that screamo was a sub-genre of post hardcore.
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Well Well I'm really happy right now cuse I got a backstage pass to see Alice Cooper in novemeber :)

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im happy coz got me some Alexisonfire tickets .and it near my b.day to helllllll yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh