Neji Hyuga vs Kimimaro

[SuperSaiyaMan]

Post-Chunin Exam Neji Hyuga v. Kimimaro

Post-Timeskip Neji Hyuga vs Kimimaro

Who wins?
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Any thoughts at all?

[e-dog]

Post Chuunin goes to Kimimaro, hands down. Neji at that time would get his ass handed to him.
Dont forget that one of Kimimaro's "subordinates" of the sound5 (almost) pwnzored Neji. Kimimaro is on a different level. Its a damn shame we never got to see him develop. I think he would have become 1 of the strongest Shinobi evah, judging by what we have seen.

Post Timeskip Neji is a much much better challenge.
I think he takes this one, judging by his awesomeness alone :P
I can be mistaking but I remember reading somewhere that Neji now is Jounin.

By the way, why no replies? It's a pretty good thread.


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[Rikudou King]

I would have to give both fights to Kimimaro. If he uses his bones to block his chakra points, Then he would negate the majority of Neji's techniques. Kimimaro would have no fear of fighting in close combat with Neji. And depending on how his bone forest technique works, He could possibly attack Neji in his blind spot.

[kkck]

I would argue kimimaru has the advantage due to the fight being close range and taijutsu. I know the gentle fist is the best taijutsu stile around -according to the manga- but I still think it will be overwhelmingly difficult for neji to get a hit. Kimimaru is overwhelmingly more versatile than neji to put it bluntly. His bones work fenomenally well in close range, they can do wonders in mid range and also seems to work reasonably well in long range. He can shot bones, the moment neji approaches he can make a bunch of bones come out of anywhere which limits where and how neji can attack. Not sure how the bones armor would work though. CS would make all of the previous all the more lethal. Neji is good and all but IMHO kimimaru takes this. Even in stats the guy has quite a few points over neji...

[jdw]

Kimimaro takes it pre-timeskip and post-timeskip. Kimimaro would just be too much for Neji to handle before the timeskip. He gave Lee and Gaara a hard time and would have killed both if he didn't just die. As for after the timeskip, same result because Neji hasn't reall shown anything new of great significance. As far as manga facts go, Neji is basically the same person he was then because he was only give meager development.

The only way I see Neji pulling out either fight is if he can channel his chakra through the bones themselves (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/197/04/), delivering a jyuuken directly to Kimimaro.

[Gats]

Lee was slower than before as Garaa stated (because of his past wounds). Even more, Lee Taijutsu style and Neji's are different. Lee's taijutsu goal is to break bones/muscles from outside while Neji's taijutsu is all about internal damage.

Same with Garaa, he can control sand, but this weapon also did and does external damage...while Neji is supposed to do internal damage, in the body. Neji can see through the body and can damage it without touching the bones. The thing is, would Kimimaro would have a reason to go full ultimate bone armor since the beginning and then give Neji the opportunity to do what he wants ? Was Kimimaro aware about the Hyuuga's abilities ?

Also, remember that his bones skills are not instant, his bone armor is probably "slow" to some extent to be created and the biggest Garaa strike was slow...very slow, he had time to protect himself.

The question are : can Neji strikes through bones in the worst case scenario for him ? Can Kimmimaro overcome the result of Neji gentle fist with the Cursed Seal like Naruto did with Kyuubi ?

We know that Lee, during that time, was (maybe always is) weaker than Neji, he couldn't beat him once. It means that Neji is, at least, faster (or can overcome it with Byakugan's vision field) than Lee with his weights and certainly without his weights since I doubt that Lee challenged Neji with those if he dreamed every night to beat him. Also Lee said this :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/86/01/

His Taijutsu strike with the the fifth gates opening is supposed to be for Neji. It means that, during this time, he wouldn't be able to beat him without this crazy speed and strength.

With this, I doubt Kimimaro had the same taijutsu speed than Lee with gates open. Neji can deal with him in taijutsu, he can even deal his bones strikes with his mastership of chakra shield (Kaiten, etc). The main question is the bone's armor.

[kingplaya(minato)]

Pre-time skip goes to kimmimaro no doubt as he beat the sound 4 without breaking a sweat but neji almost died fighting 1...
Post-time skip would be tougher but kimmimaro wins due to the cursed seal as that would give him more chakra and strength(if he's not sick)...
Kudos to supersaiyaman 4 this thread breaking away from all those uber techs thread to the good o'ld days of part1 as thinking and intelligence could probably sway post-time skip neji to victory as he could get an opening/weakness to beat kimmimaro in a single hit but power levels definately go to kimmimaro...

[Gats]

Pre-time skip goes to kimmimaro no doubt as he beat the sound 4 without breaking a sweat but neji almost died fighting 1...
Post-time skip would be tougher but kimmimaro wins due to the cursed seal as that would give him more chakra and strength(if he's not sick)...
Kudos to supersaiyaman 4 this thread breaking away from all those uber techs thread to the good o'ld days of part1 as thinking and intelligence could probably sway post-time skip neji to victory as he could get an opening/weakness to beat kimmimaro in a single hit but power levels definately go to kimmimaro...

Discussing about how powers can match each other is wiser than saying A>B and B>C so C>A, which is not working in Narutoverse.
What Neji said in part 1 should help you to understand : he stated that Kidoumaru was stronger than him but he managed to beat him in the end.

[Raizen]

I love neji, but i don't think he can win. With kimi, he can protrude his bones out and make it hard for neji to get a hit in b/c then neji would hurt himself. But as jdw said, if neji can send chakra through the bone then he can win.

The reason neji had so much trouble with the spider was b/c he knew all about neji's style and b/c he was a long ranged fighter. Remember that neji got the 64 palm in on the spider guy, but he anticipated it b/c he knew what neji can do.
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ps, im glad there is a thread like this rather than blank ninja vs sharingan lol

[Destined_One]

Well as strong as Kimimaro was, he was only facing two genin. Gaara who fought on at least the level of a chuunin, and Lee whom was still injured. In part 1, the elite jonin's like Kakashi/Gai could have defeated Gaara/Lee without much effort. The question is, how much of a difference is there between Neji the Jonin, and Kakashi/Gai the jonin's. IMO the Kisame battle proved that Gai was still a step ahead. Personally I believe that Kimimaro and the current Neji are around the same level, however Kimimaro's KG has greater value in the match up. Like many have said, if Neji cannot send chakra through the bone which manifests around Kimimaro, then his Taijutsu style would be ineffective.

[ninjabot]

Kimimaro takes both fights. Neji hasn't shown the ability to extend the Jyuuken's range (that Hakke air palm hasn't been shown to be able to pierce tenketsu from long range) meaning Kimimaro's bone armor would protect him from his tenketsu being pierced with Neji's Jyuuken. And I think Kimimaro's bones are considerably stronger than Kidoumaru's golden web skin, which also protected Kidoumaru's tenketsu.

Then there's the whole Kaiten shield thing...that'd definately protect Neji from Kimimaro's swords and bone bullets, but Neji can't attack while just sitting there defending. Once he goes in for the kill and his close range attacks fail, he's a pincushion.

It's also worth mentioning that the Byakuygan hasn't been confirmed to allow the wielder to predict movements of an enemy via their tensing muscles ala the Sharingan, so no "seeing Kimimaro's movements in slo-mo" stuff.

Yup. Neji loses.

[Oathencrantz]

Well as strong as Kimimaro was, he was only facing two genin. Gaara who fought on at least the level of a chuunin, and Lee whom was still injured. In part 1, the elite jonin's like Kakashi/Gai could have defeated Gaara/Lee without much effort. The question is, how much of a difference is there between Neji the Jonin, and Kakashi/Gai the jonin's. IMO the Kisame battle proved that Gai was still a step ahead. Personally I believe that Kimimaro and the current Neji are around the same level, however Kimimaro's KG has greater value in the match up. Like many have said, if Neji cannot send chakra through the bone which manifests around Kimimaro, then his Taijutsu style would be ineffective.

Gaara's been a jounin level shinobi since the beginning.


But yea, I can't see Neji beating Kimimaro pre- or post-time skip, he's just too much of a tank, and being close to him is dangerous. Tbh, we haven't really seen Neji in action in part 2, but he's probably far beyond what we've seen of him in part 1.

[Eddy01741]

Sorry to revive, but there's a general lack of interesting arena threads (or maybe I'm just tired of sharingan user vs. XXXXXXX threads).

Pre timeskip: Kimmimaro, with ease. Neji's gentle fist requires basically point blank range while Kimmimaro not only is very proficient at fighting point blank, but also can extend his reach with weapons made of his bones, or of course, the dance of the seedling fern (where he just owns everything in the immediate area). Neji's best move, the 8 trigrams 64 strikes thing, also has no chance of hitting due to Neji's lack of range.

Post timeskip: Closer fight, but I still see Neji's lack of range as a large problem for him. His best attacks are still from almost point blank range, even if he somehow pulls off his 8 trigrams 64 strikes, I'm pretty sure that Kimmimaro would pull out his CS and overcome it. The hakke move of Neji also has been shown to be little more than a concussive blast (aka, knocks the opponent off his feet/blows them back), and since Kimmimaro has bones stronger than steel, and can form plates under his skin, I don't see that doing much damage. Kimmimaro wins.

Kimmimaro is basically the perfect taijutsu only fighter. The only person I could see having a chance against Kimmimaro in a straight up taijutsu fight is Gai, and when I say Gai, I mean Gai using gates to increase power. And lets not forget about the dance of the seedling fern, not only does it create a large field of bone spikes, he can also transport himself through the bone spikes created, pretty badass move overall.

[mattiaildivino]

post chunin exam an almost-dead kimi owned naruto powered by the 9tails,1gate lee and a stronger gaara. then neji is done for. in the shippuuden neji is a jonin but I don't think he could deal with kimimaro,of course neji has got a good defense,but kimi has got a worthy one too. kimi should take the 2nd fight too.