Akatsuki vs The Five Kages (And Bodyguards)

[SuperSaiyaMan]

Basically, Akatsuki strikes the conference, minus Pain. They have all the members up to the Hidan and Kakuzu Arc. Deidara is forbidden from using C4. Can the Kages (Tsunade in place of Danzo) repell the Akatsuki attack?

Note: Madara isn't available.

[En Yang Ji]

Imo Akatsuki would win. Akatsuki has: Madara, Deidara, Kazuku, Hidan, Kazuku, Kisame, Konan, and Itachi.

[TeAm#7FoReVer]

Akatsuki without any doubt. They have unique and dangerous techniques.

Madara: he cant be touch.
Deidara: Bombs.
Kazuku: Multiple lives. Hard time to kill him.
Hidan: Psycokiller.
Kisame: He has a sword that steals chakra.
Konan: She can spread herself to different places and take several shapes.
Zetsu: A jutsu that steals chakra and he can divide himself.
Itachi: A genjutsu expert and Susanoo.

I think Itachi, Madara, Kazuku and Kisame can fight kages. Zetsu, Deidara, Hidan and Konan can face the bodyguards. It would be an epic battle.

[Lord_Orochimaru]

Basically, Akatsuki strikes the conference, minus Pain. They have all the members up to the Hidan and Kakuzu Arc. Deidara is forbidden from using C4. Can the Kages (Tsunade in place of Danzo) repell the Akatsuki attack?

As I always say you shouldn't limit one Shinobi and not the next. It be better if Deidara can use C4 and not including pain is good yes but also Danzo should be there and not Tsunade but its your post your choice.

[SuperSaiyaMan]

The Akatsuki are good, no doubt, but all five Kages are more powerful, I'd bet. (And I chose Tsunade, Lord Orochimaru, since she's the legitimate Hokage, Danzo only became Hokage due to manipulation).

The Raikage: Faster than all of them, has tremendous strength, and lightning armor that can probably freeze Kisame in his tracks like Suigetsu. Plus with Darui and Shi, he has more options.
The Mizukage: Two Kekki Genkai that are very deadly, she could melt or boil the Akatsuki members she hits or does both, plus with Ao and Chojiro, she has many more options.
The Tsuchikage: The only Kage I see having a problem, but he is powerful enough to hold his own against Kakuzu and Hidan, shame we didn't get to see his bodyguards in action.
Gaara: Sand manipulation of course, and the abilities of his siblings makes an even more powerful team.
Tsunade: Tremendous strength, can heal/cancel out genjutsus, summon, etc.

Oh, and since w don't know how Madara could be beaten, he's out of the fight too.

[Lord_Orochimaru]

The Akatsuki are good, no doubt, but all five Kages are more powerful, I'd bet. (And I chose Tsunade, Lord Orochimaru, since she's the legitimate Hokage, Danzo only became Hokage due to manipulation).

But he's at the summit and not her. Sasori can Take Tsucikage on, molecular attacks on a puppet? pfft lol I'm going to match them up in advantage to Akatsuki and in advantage to the kages soon after i go through them thoroughly

Oh, and since w don't know how Madara could be beaten, he's out of the fight too.Edit your original post with notice.

[SuperSaiyaMan]

But he's at the summit and not her. Sasori can Take Tsucikage on, molecular attacks on a puppet? pfft lol I'm going to match them up in advantage to Akatsuki and in advantage to the kages soon after i go through them thoroughly
Molecular Attacks on a puppet is about as effective as Molecular Attacks on a human. Know why? Everything is made of molecules and atoms.

[kkck]

You know, I saw this thread and thought "Pein wins.... not kages, not akatsukis, simply pain" lol. What a disappointment lol.

I would go for the akatsuki. Lets take a look at the kages...

2 1 old frail old man.... lacks on the stamina side. On top of that none of the old ones is bound to cooperate very well with others.

Raikage: strong as hell, plainly put. He could probably take most akatsuki as long as the fight is individual(provided he isn't fighting itachi lol).

Mizukage: Bunch of KG which is never bad. She could probably take a bunch individually but she does not seem like a powerhouse.

Gaara: Long range, wide largescale attacks. he could deal with almost any akatsuki on his own and provide defense against large scale attacks.

Even though the kages are strong as hell, akatsuki has a bunch of guys who could at the very least hold their ground against kages. Itachi has susanoo which grants esential invincibility for a while. Madara and deidara could close the distance between them and gaara fairly fast. Hidan can kill a kage rather fast should he get a drop of blood. Kakuzu could attack from many sides at the same time while it is also reasonably hard to kill him. All in all the kages would be outnumbered and outmaneuvered.


edit:
tsunade would probably be the more cooperative of the kages(along with mizukage). She could take a few akatsuki's and her healing could provide some serius backup but in the end she would end up like everyone else.

I just remembered kisame is some sort of pseudo biju too. He probably exceeds even the raikages raw power.

[En Yang Ji]

Is Orochimaru part of Akatsuki in this battle?

[SuperSaiyaMan]

Uh, Kkck, Danzo is not in this battle. Its Tsunade.
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Is Orochimaru part of Akatsuki in this battle?
No. He's long since gone from Akatsuki.

[Shaunlim]

I say the five Kages because most of them can probably hold their own against an Akatsuki member and their sides have the advantage in number. Not forgetting that all the 5 kages together have a more all round ability especially when their bodyguards are taken into account of.

They basically have defense (Gaara), healing (Tsunade), powerhouses (Raikage), possibly 1HKO techs (Mizukage, Tsuchikage).

[Prince Sasuke]

I'll go with Akatsuki, each member can go one on one with Any of the Kages,plus Akasuki have the numbers on there side.

[ninjabot]

Akatsuki. Zetsu uses henge to disguise himself as the surrounding rubble and trees while he's releasing his spores and infecting the insides of everyone on the battlefield. Once Akatsuki has weakened everyone enough that they're low on chakra, Zetsu jumps out of all their bodies, removing enough chakra that it completely drains them all, killing them.

Or, Zetsu jumps out of everyone, cutting them and drawing blood from them before disconnecting from their bodies. Then, he gives said blood to Hidan and well...Hidan stabs himself in the heart, killing everyone in one fell swoop. That is, if he can share his injuries with more than one person at a time.

[braindamage351]

Akatsuki. Itachi and Pain alone could easily do the job.

[SuperSaiyaMan]

Akatsuki. Itachi and Pain alone could easily do the job.
Did you read my topic at all? Pain isn't in the fight. And how is Itachi going to fight against the Raikage's superior speed?

[M3J]

This win goes to Akatsuki. Tsuchikage would be the one most likely to know about Akatsuki, and if he doesn't know about Hidan's ability, Hidan can take out at least one kage, if he doesn't make a show of it and drag it out and give the enemy time to figure out his jutsu. And even if they do, Itachi would be smart enough to figure out how to trap them into Hidan's jutsu. I don't see him spamming Tsukiyomi though, though I could see him using it against Tsunade or Gaara. Kakuzu could use Hidan as distraction while he does his deadliest jutsu. Kisame's suiton can be a great defense, like Gaara's sand.

[Raizen]

What most of these posts seem to forget is that there are also helpers from the kages side. Each of them get at least 2 helpers and are likely skilled ninjas. I mean one of raikage's men took a tsukyomi but was fine in a couple of minutes. Temari can keep blowing her fan and cutting people and mizukage can use her acid mist on everyone since it attacks everyone in sight.

I think that the kages can win this. People say that the kages can't work together, but I don't see akatsuki working together either. They only are compatible as a group of 2, not as a whole group. What if deidara starts blowing up his teammates or itachi burns them or if hidan gets someone else's blood.

[Prince Sasuke]

Sasuke's MS wasn't activated, so it couldn't be Tsukuyomi.
I thought the thread was only for kages not including there guards.

[Raizen]

Sasuke's MS wasn't activated, so it couldn't be Tsukuyomi.
I thought the thread was only for kages not including there guards.
Oh thanks for pointing that out, and the thread states and their bodyguards.
We have seen some wicked abilities from the body guards, like the puppet mind transfer, etc

[DEATHBOTT]

kind of on the fence because i dont know the full extent of kisames and zetsus power but the same can be said for Danzo, mizukage and onoki and most of the bodygaurds so im gonna have to go with the kages.

gaara could take out hidan, temari or mizukage could take out konan, mizukage or raikage could take out itachi, Raikage and darui could take out kisame, they could work together to take out sasori, kakazu and diedra. have no idea about zetsu.

Does kankuro have sasori as a puppet?
and is sasuke and hawk in the akatsuki?
also if bee had been available he would have probably been taken to the summit so that would tip the scales for the kages also if tsunade instead had gone she probably would have taken naruto and kakakshi.

the biggest threats i think are sasori and itachi. with pain, oro and tobi akatsuki would own. also if diedra could use c4 he could probably beat everyone, maybe not the raikage because of his lightning element.

so many freaking variables to think about.

[niblack89]

They don't need pain when they have someone who could be just as powerful
Itachi can easily take out any of the kages

Hidan can take out Mizukage cause her acid attacks wont be able to hurt him

The Tsuchikage is old I really don't see him being as powerful as the third hokage so I don't think he will be much of a threat.

Gaara is strong but as shown his ultimate can be beaten and he was defeated by Deidara. I think if Gaara gets older he will be more powerful.

The gards maybe powerful but so far they aren't nearly as powerful as the kages or Akatsuki that boy with one of the legendary sword he maybe good but Kasame is lite years better. Sasori is also lite years ahead of Kankuro and Temari. Ao seems strong but I don't think he could take on Kakuzu.

[Diablos]

There are too many brutal AoE jutsus to decide a real outcome.. this battle should be in open field.

Dunno really both parties have awesome ninjas... But oh well, akatsuki I guess.. For they are the ones I've seen most of and each of them are the ultimate ninjas. Same cannot be said to each bodyguard. Maybe one or another..

Edit: I will make my post better described evaluating each party in its content and try make a reasonable display of outcome.

[Jinnobi]

And how is Itachi going to fight against the Raikage's superior speed?

How does anyone?

There are techniques to counter speedy opponents, just like there are ways to counter pretty much everything. AoE attacks work well. Shadow clones work well. I'd like to see Raikage go against Itachi's Susano'o.

[mattiaildivino]

A is very strong,he could defeat itachi,but I doubt they can defeat itachi,kisame,kakuzu,deidara,konan,hidan and zetsu

[hakuthehedgehog]

The kages have their two bodyguards, but does that mean Tsuande is stuck with Fu or Torune, or she could have two others, like Kakashi and Yamoto?

This is actually a very close fight: as of the Kage summit Itachi's Tsukuyomi is known, his amaterasu can be blocked by Gaara: the main problem is Susano'o, but it can sunk By Gaara and destroyed by Tsuchikage's Jinton.

Hmm, I think I'll give this a tie.

[Kazu-Sama]

I think Akatsuki win this cleanly. Kisame has shown he can keep up with Killer B, who has been shown to be roughly equal to A. The Raiton armour that is Raikage's strength falls into the same problem as Bijuu cloak: It gets shaved off by Samehada, giving Kisame the chakra needed to heal himself.

Oonoki could do massive damage with his dust release, but equally with his old age a single good hit will probably finish him - and there's no shortage of fast ninjas/long-range attacks here to defeat him: Sasori (is Sasori in this?) Can surround Oonoki with his puppets, and he's shown no technique to counter being surrounded. Equally, Itachi could outspeed him and get around him with Ama, and a Kisame shark bullet would just destroy him.

Gaara vs Deidara would be an interesting fight, it's true that Deidara won at first on account of Gaara protecting his village, but Deidara has more techniques he didn't use in the fight. So I'll give this to Deidara.

Tsunade here is - short of healing - fodder as I maintain that any single member of Akatsuki could and would defeat her. Her defences are essentially minimal, and everybody in this fight - Hidan excluded - focuses on causing maximum damage as quickly as possible.

The Tsukikage would be a challenge - probably the biggest challenge since there's no die-hard counter - but a Kisame shark bullet would see her off, as would Itachi with Sus and Ama, And Kasuku/Hidan can take a direct hit, and then strike with the element of suprise.

So yeah - Akatsuki wins this, but in all fairness a Kisame Shark Bullet would win this straight away. I think literally ONLY Gai or Preta path could counter it

[shafagh]

Is black Zetsu available !?

he make some child play against Mizuakage and more than 20 Jounin and Mizukage still can't take him down ...

Itachi can take most of them with his normal Sharinga genjutsu and itachi show that he is able to trap kage level ninja with his normal sharingan genjutsu ( killerbee ) ....

[ninjabot]

No one had anything to say about my Zetsu strategy? And if the kage all get their partners I don't see why Akatsuki wouldn't have Sasuke and Taka. Unless the fight's dileberately meant to handicap Akatsuki. Madara was already taken. Then Pein.

[braindamage351]

Hm, it's definitely a much better fight when you consider that Akatsuki doesn't have Pain or Madara. I think the biggest problem people are making is underestimating the bodyguards. Some of these guys are really strong, and their abilities are especially useful. The Akatsuki members tend to have really broken abilities with weaknesses, while the kages have generally strong abilities that basically ignore numbers. The bodyguards have very strong abilities, but they tend to not be skilled enough to land it on an Akatsuki member. That changes in this sort of mass battle situation, and greatly favors the kage side.

Sasori craps out because of Tsunade (who can use her slugs to protect everyone at once). A sensor like C can easily find his weak point, and it seems like Gaara can block the iron sand (it just sinks his sand afterward, and he can do this for everyone on the battlefield). Pretty much neutered in this scenario.

Deidara is shut down by Darui. High-speed homing lightning attacks are just too much.

Kakuzu kind of sucks against a bunch of element using opponents, since there's always someone with his weakness. Torune can pretty much murder him as it is if someone guards him.

Hidan is garbage. Kurotsuchi can easily subdue him with her lava jutsus. Torune can tap him to finish him off.

Kisame loses to Mizukage and Chojuro. The two combined are simply superior to him in base, and I'm speculating a bit but I'd imagine boil release is super effective against an underwater opponent (IE the lake can quickly be turned to pure acid, or at least boiled away). Her disintegrating/melting attacks naturally counter regeneration.

Konan really can't exist on the same battlefield as Gaara. He can just swallow her whole. Again, Torune could finish her off, or really he could just seal her with that tag he used on the zombies.

Itachi is really strong, but the combo of Raikage and Onoki should be enough to beat him. Itachi is pretty much forced to use susanoo to defend himself against Max speed Raikage. Raikage's super reaction time and speed should allow him to pull Onoki out of the way of Itachi's attacks (if he uses amaterasu or susanoo). Onoki is critical because he has two perfect tools for breaking susanoo. If Raikage can help him get in close, Onoki can pin down susanoo's movements with his aggravated rock technique (which greatly raises the weight of something. And keep in mind, his weight-changing powers are strong enough to lift turtle island). At that point it's a sitting duck against dust release. Itachi can obviously mount a counterattack, but it won't work if Raikage is there to help. So yeah, these two would win (and I don't think anyone can really say I'm underestimating Itachi, after setting the two strongest current kages after him).

Zetsu is really a minor annoyance at the moment (since we don't know his moves), and I would think that katsuyu can simply kill him all over the battlefield. Gaara and Tsunade are sort of fighting everyone at once, so they're helpful against him. And I think Akatsuchi and Ao are still left over.