Myoboku Mountain vs. Konoha (no Naruto)

[braindamage351]

Okay, I know what you're thinking. It's Konoha. How can Konoha lose to a mountain full of frogs? Easily.

This guy:
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/00000376/11.jpg

The Great Frog Sage. Just think about this for a second. How fast, strong, and durable is Gamabunta, and how much chakra does he have? He can jump insane distances in an instant, cut off Shukaku's arm, and take a direct hit from a bijuu blast by blocking it with his hand. Every one of his physical attributes is pumped to insanity corresponding to his size. Jiraiya himself could never create such a massive wave of oil or bubble of water with his non-sage chakra.

Now, take all of those super-amped attributes...and sage mode them. Then slap Ma and Pa frog on his shoulders. Holy shit. This guy has so much chakra he can see the future, that doesn't even make sense. He certainly knows ninja techniques. For one, he achieved sage mode thousands of years ago (he's probably as old as fucking Rikudou), so that means he can perfectly balance physical, spiritual, and natural energy. He also knows at least one A-rank technique, the one for using a crystal ball. He taught the other frogs everything they know, and probably fucking invented kawazu kumite.

This guy is quite easily the most underrated threat in the series. You could put Hanzou in this guy's way, and he would just fucking straight up tear him in half. He wouldn't even use any moves. Itachi? XFD. Are you even serious? TGFS could kill the Uchiha clan with his tongue alone (he probably did). Tsukiyomi is a joke, since he doesn't even need to look at you. Amaterasu? Sidestepped with sage speed. Susanoo? Who are we kidding? Nobody in the series can even survive being within 50 feet of one of the Sage's missed punches, it would never get this far.

We already have a guy that makes Sage Jiraiya look like a huge pussy. You know what that leaves? EVERY OTHER FUCKING FROG. Every single one of them. Gamabunta, Gamaken, Gamahiro. Each one is worth an s-class ninja, and can shit all over the ordinary villagers (perhaps literally). It's true that there are people in Konoha that can fight giant summons, but summons vary in skill just like ninja. Gamabunta is a beast.

Shukaku fired a wind blast, the most damaging element, charged up with a fucking insane amount of chakra and Gamabunta just went "XD nice try". And landed unscathed. Gamabunta is so fast he actually tea-bagged you through the internet just a second ago and you didn't even notice. And that's not to mention his ridiculous ass strength. He cut Shukaku's arm right off and held it back with a grapple even though it was pure fucking sand.

Remember the kyuubi? Gamabunta kicked him right in the dick. Minato may have finished the job, but that's just because Minato was so depressed and inadequate in the face of his frogly manliness that he decided to use the encounter as an excuse to kill himself. Then he sealed it into Naruto, his alleged son. Who are we kidding. Do you really think Naruto came from a pansy-ass like Minato? Gamabunta was fucking half of Konoha on the side, including Kushina and Kurenai. That's the source of the village's strength (as well as that nasty case of warts).

I don't even need to bring up Gamaken and Gamahiro, because Konoha already got soloed by the Frog Sage. Seriously, look at these retard clowns:
- Tsunade got speedblitzed by Kabuto, who later lost to genin Naruto. She'd have her hands full against Gamakichi.
- Can Kakashi punch a mountain in half? No? Then he doesn't have what it takes to even be in the fucking room with The Great Toad Sage.
- Everyone else sucks shit.

Myoboku Mountain dominates, anyone who disagrees is either a troll or just insane.

[Hauradrims3]

You my good sir, are a winnar. Gamabunta>Chuck norris

[SuperSaiyaMan]

I'm afraid you are the one who is a troll and is insane, braindamage351.

[kkck]

There are a number of things that are just wrong with your post to say the least. For starters, you pose opinions as facts and assume a bunch of things on which the manga has yet to elaborate upon. What really makes your post a joke(if it deserves to be called that) is this:

Myoboku Mountain dominates, anyone who disagrees is either a troll or just insane.
You finish your post by flaming any people who in the future will disagree with you? Why even post this if you are going to flame future debaters?

While it is true a number of old people in naruto have proven to be strong, it is also true that they are always far beyond their prime and their bodies are relatively frail. The great sage is old enough to refer to 2 800 year old frogs as kids and has proven to be mostly senile. It is plausible he could still be a great fighter(assuming he was ever one) but given his condition it is very questionable. Also, old age comes with a considerble decrease in stamine and we know a large chakra capacity is required to use HM(the manga has yet to establish if this is a definite requirement for frogs too though).

Now, we have no idea of how great myoboku's military capacity is. We don't even know if they are organized on any level as a military force. Even if they have a senile old sage, 2 kage level old sages who are perfectly capable of fighting and 3 great sized frogs who we know are the strongest in myoboku, this is by no means nearly enough to take on an organization such as konoha. You stated that there are ninja capable of fighting giant sized summons which is true but you forget to add that konoha fights in teams and has a considerable number of skilled ninja. Each of this ninja who is capable of fighting giant summons on his own is certainly going to have behind him a number of other skilled ninja supporting them. Even if myuboku has an untold number of other fighting frogs, konoha also has a number of other ninjas who also have special techniques. To top it all, other ninjas in konoha are bound to also use summons to counter other summons. I mean, just the akimichi can fight on the same scale as bunta lol(granted their transformation is short lived mostly). Quite frankly, it is absurd to assume myoboku could take konoha when we know so little about it and what we know of them would suggest an organized military would trash them.

Then you proceeded to make the claim that wind is the most damaging element. That is a extremely flawed argument specially seeing how the elements work. Only thing that has ever been said is that wind in the best element when cutting. That by no means suggests wind is the most damaging element. The manga has made it pretty clear an element is only as good as the one using it. Each element has been hinted to have an area where it is the strongest but this is countered by the fact that each element can be countered by another opposing element. To top it all, shukaku did not even use a cutting attack where the wind element was claimed to be the best. It is also worth noting that bunta only managed to cut an arm when shukaku had not yet awaken. Once shukaku did awake even in his mutilated state forced bunta into admitting his inferiority and forced him and naruto into a desperate improbable attack to wake up gaara. All in all, bunta could not hold a candle to shukaku.


As for gamabunta vs kyubi, I must have missed it. Either that or the manga has yet to actually showed what happened. Given that the manga has yet to elaborate on what happened in that fight, we really do not know what exactly was gamabunta's part. We could speculate bunta actually sparred against the kyubi but it would remain merely speculation. For all we know bunta was there merely to look big and distract kyubi with his tough looks while minato completed the seal.

Also, tsunade did not get speedblits or whatnot by kabuto. She was doing ok in her fight(granted that not spectacularly) until kabuto took advantage of her phobia. Her phobia is indeed a weakness on tsunade's part bit overall she was never trashed in the way you suggest.

kakashi cannot break a mountain in half but I would think a raikiri would blind a frog by going to the giant targets they have for eyes. 1 MS shot would also send gamabuntas heart straight back to myoboku. I would also think kakashi along with a team of half decent shinobi could deal with a giant summon and live to tell the tale. I mean, just this anbu where capable of jutsu of this scale:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/425/10/
granted the jutsu did not work for long(take into consideration this creatures are as big as bunta and have a significant amount of power though) but if konoha has a number of ninja capable of that then dealing with summons is more than possible.

Edit: I reread your post an noticed there is a very real chance it might have been meant as a joke. If that is the case, I apologize for a few comments on my post.

[niblack89]

Is a mountain full of giant frog! they can smash em all. the frogs seem to be great ninjas that are quick for their sizes. hell just jumping around they could destroy the village. also ma and pa are monstrous there jutsu aren't even below A rank and the addition of natural energy. They already possess a genjutsu that is on the same level as Tsukuyomi. They are more powerful than Jiraiya. This goes to the toads. But they should watch out for Sakura too. she probably wont kill them with on hit like that Centipede cause i think that would take away lots of chakra and the centipede was smaller

PS sorry for changing the topic but what if Naruto were able use the foxes power what if he were able to summing an army of giant toads. three were great imagine 12. I know why Naruto isn't involved cause he alone can lift a toad in the air and super sage resangan them or RS

[mattiaildivino]

I think the Leaf destroy those toads with nothing! ma and pa have to stand still,if not they can't use the senjutsu. kakashi's kamui works while they are getting the sage chakra. konoha owns myoboku.

[ninjabot]

So wait: you guys are taking his post seriously?

Wow.