Clash of the Whitebeard Elites! FlamingFist Ace VS. Marco the Phoenix!

[firework]

Whitebeard's 1st division commander vs. Whitebeard's 2nd division commander!

Who will win?

[mr.danly]

I'd have to say Marco. We don't really know that much about Marco's abilities other than his DF, but just from what we've seen, I'm pretty sure Marco would win. Marco's DF is equal to, if not stronger than, Ace's DF in terms of power, and Ace's ONLY strength right now seems to be his DF. In the fight with Blackbeard, he just continued to use his logia abilities even though he knew they weren't that effective against his opponent.

[firework]

actually Ace's attacks were effective against BB, he was a tangible logia. Also, if your a swordsman, and you were fighting a steel man, would you switch weps if it wasnt effective?

And how are you so certain that Marco can even hit Ace?
im really curious as to who ppl think would win this fight as i believe that the strongest should take over for WB

[Banedor]

Well the stronger doesn't mean they'll take over WB Pirates.

Rules say the 1st Commander would take over and all previous Commanders would move up in rank but thats for a different discussion.


Ultimately it would come down to whose "fire" would over power the others. In which case I think it'd be Marco's.

[Razh]

You could at least put a poll.

Anyway, Marco is stronger. Why? Because he's the 1st division leader and we know that the 1st division leader is stronger than other division leaders. Shanks even asked if he wanted to join his crew. That says a lot.

[Diablos]

xa0a0xa0xa0ax0 ins't this one of those things to be relied in Haki? And seems Marco has haki for leaving a scratch in Kizaru even hitting him to the ground wasnt it? or is he just stalling him? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn one piece you leaving me too confuseddddddddddd:D

Anyway until clear answers its a Tie to me.

[Jiggy-Ninja]

I'd have to say Marco. We don't really know that much about Marco's abilities other than his DF, but just from what we've seen, I'm pretty sure Marco would win. Marco's DF is equal to, if not stronger than, Ace's DF in terms of power, and Ace's ONLY strength right now seems to be his DF. In the fight with Blackbeard, he just continued to use his logia abilities even though he knew they weren't that effective against his opponent.
Ace was able to kick Luffy's rubber butt even before he ate the Mera Mera Fruit. Given how powerful Luffy can be, and appears to be a direct result of the "training" that Garp put him through in order to turn him into a strong Marine. Given that Garp had the same hope for Ace, it's likely that he went through similar (and possible even worse) hardships.

Ace has definitely got some serious skills behind that Fruit.

[Katz]

Well of course Ace > luffy before they ate their respective DF's Ace is the elder brother, thus is 9/10 stronger and smarter in most ways.

and I still think Ace > luffy (until luffy has complete mastery over his Haki than I think he can put a hurt on Ace)

But for the topic at hand, until we see more of what Marco can do, I'm still on the fence about this one.

[Poneglyph420]

Probably would go with Marco as stronger, but once you throw the "D" factor in.. I think they are really on par. Just because we don't know enough about Marco... Yeah tie, I guess. But I'd assume that Marco would be a better fight than BB. Who is dependent on his fruit nullifying power.

[Desman]

why would they fight? anyways i think match is in favor for of Marco because i think he wouldnt be hared by fire abilities since phoenix is "firebird".

[Jiggy-Ninja]

Well of course Ace > luffy before they ate their respective DF's Ace is the elder brother, thus is 9/10 stronger and smarter in most ways.

and I still think Ace > luffy (until luffy has complete mastery over his Haki than I think he can put a hurt on Ace)

But for the topic at hand, until we see more of what Marco can do, I'm still on the fence about this one.
You misunderstand. Ace was better than Luffy before he ate the Mera Mera Fruit, but after Luffy ate his Gomu Gomu Fruit. In other words, rubberman vs. normal human.

[Katz]

Ok, now I get your meaning, I believe thats somewhere in the manga, could you possibly tell me where?, I vaguely remember they first meeting Ace and Luffy remarking about Ace kicking his A**

[kkck]

Marco seems to have been around for quite a long time. On top of that he seems quite capable of fighting on par with any character introduced so far, he may even be stronger than the admirals.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/565.5/22/
He, along with some of the current commanders seem to have been top rated pirates for a long time now. Ace is strong, his strength could even make a difference in the war that is being fought now(unlike luffy lol) but IMHO marco would beat the crap out of him.

[RichardMNixon]

I feel like Ace's fire wouldn't do much good against Marco at which point it becomes a physical contest, and Marco appears to be much more adept at physical combat.

[Jiggy-Ninja]

Ok, now I get your meaning, I believe thats somewhere in the manga, could you possibly tell me where?, I vaguely remember they first meeting Ace and Luffy remarking about Ace kicking his A**
You vaguely remember almost the exact situation. :p

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/159/08/